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Speaker 1: Late General, Welcome to the Late Debase.
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Speaker 2: All good evening and welcome to the Late Debate.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Free Leitch and Caleb Bond coming
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Speaker 3: up tonight. The Sex Discrimination Commissioner argues that men identifying
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Speaker 3: as women should have the same rights available to pregnant women.
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Speaker 3: Plus Hamas officials praised Western politicians for wanting to recognize Palestine,
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Speaker 3: which should be a clue. There on the wrong track.
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Speaker 3: And Donald Trump finds even more reasons to love actress
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Speaker 3: Sidney Sweeney. But first, it's been revealed that the Melbourne
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Speaker 3: City Council plotted the quiet execution of Captain Cook's Cottage.
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Speaker 3: That humble structure built by Captain Cook's parents in seventeen
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Speaker 3: seventy five and lovingly ship to Victoria in nineteen thirty four,
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Speaker 3: had suddenly become problematic. The problem it reminded people that
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Speaker 3: history actually happened. The council said, its symbolized colonialism, and
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Speaker 3: I guess it does, but so too does the wheel
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Speaker 3: and we're not getting rid of those anytime soon. It
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Speaker 3: clashed with the Council's Indigenous Reconciliation Plan, a document of
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Speaker 3: such moral purity. It apparently couldn't bear the site of
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Speaker 3: a riftile from eighteenth century Yorkshire, and most damningly, it
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Speaker 3: had become a magnet for vandals, which somehow made the
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Speaker 3: cottage the guilty party. Of course, the council wasn't going
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Speaker 3: to admit any of this. Documents released under Freedom of
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Speaker 3: Information revealed the council had planned to close the cottage
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Speaker 3: to the public and then blame it on declining tourism numbers. Now,
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Speaker 3: the plan was eventually yanked from the agenda, but the
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Speaker 3: message lingers Caleb and Freyer Melbourne City Council bureaucrats would
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Speaker 3: rather bury history than defend it.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's more sinister than simply saying, ah, well,
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Speaker 4: you know, it's just doesn't fit with the planner.
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Speaker 1: It's a bit hard to.
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Speaker 4: Deal with the graffiti that's being put on it. They're
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Speaker 4: actively trying to remove our history and opportunities to learn
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Speaker 4: about our.
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Speaker 1: History, so that we totally forget.
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Speaker 4: The foundation of this country. And by the way, I know,
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Speaker 4: I say it every single time that we talk about
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Speaker 4: Captain Cook and James though what I'm going to say
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Speaker 4: he was dead nine years before the first fleet arrived.
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Speaker 4: He was not a colonizer he was going around the
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Speaker 4: world discovering I mean, you know, in terms of the
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Speaker 4: work done for science in many facets of the world
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Speaker 4: that was done by Captain Cook. He did not come
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Speaker 4: here to take the land. He was mapping it, right.
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Speaker 4: He didn't have anything to do with the colonization of
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Speaker 4: this country. So if that's your problem with Captain Cook,
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Speaker 4: and they always lop his bloody statue over and they
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Speaker 4: attack his cottage and they march around with signs on
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Speaker 4: Australia days saying, you know, down with Captain Cook. Captain
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Speaker 4: Cook wasn't involved. He was dead when it happens, So
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Speaker 4: you're going after the wrong guy. They show how historically
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Speaker 4: illiterate they are when they go down those lines, but
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Speaker 4: they are deliberately trying to remove opportunities for us to
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Speaker 4: have connection with and learn about the history of our country,
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Speaker 4: because if we could actually have access to them, we.
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Speaker 1: Might learn the truth.
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Speaker 4: And the truth is that Captain Cook isn't the villain
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Speaker 4: that they tell us he is. And if we realize
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Speaker 4: that Captain Cook isn't the villain that they tell us
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Speaker 4: he is, maybe we'll start saying, hmm, all this anti
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Speaker 4: Australia stuff isn't as great as we thought it was.
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Speaker 4: That's why they want to shut down things like Captain
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Speaker 4: Cook's cottage, because it's kids who would go there and
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Speaker 4: learn things. And they don't want kids to learn things
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Speaker 4: about Captain Cook because they might discover he wasn't an
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Speaker 4: evil man.
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Speaker 5: And I think the other problem with this is, as
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Speaker 5: it so often is, it's the unelected bureaucrats at Melbourne
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Speaker 5: City Council that are pushing for this. It's not even
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Speaker 5: the counselors themselves. In fact, the proposal was shut down
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Speaker 5: by the Mayor of Melbourne, Nick Reese, who often comes
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Speaker 5: on Sky News here. But that is the key problem.
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Speaker 5: It's unelected bureaucrats that are accountable to absolutely no one,
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Speaker 5: that slowly but surely have a mission to rewrite any
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Speaker 5: rais Australian history and we need to be alive to that.
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Speaker 2: Here's the bit I don't get right. So they claim
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Speaker 2: that it is.
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Speaker 3: It's sort of in opposition to the council's reconciliation plan.
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Speaker 3: I thought reconciliation was about bringing two parties together, not
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Speaker 3: a raising one party so only one remains, and that
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Speaker 3: seems to be what council are intending to do with
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Speaker 3: this now. As you said, the proposal was yanked, but
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Speaker 3: the fact that you can elect new councilors but the
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Speaker 3: bureaucracy pretty much stays the same. The other thing that's
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Speaker 3: interesting is, as I said, they plan to lie to
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Speaker 3: people about the reason for the closure, which means they
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Speaker 3: know this does not have public support. They know this
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Speaker 3: would have been an outrage, and so they made plans.
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Speaker 3: They even prepared a press release on behalf of the council.
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Speaker 3: As I said, It was never actioned, but they had
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Speaker 3: it there, prepared to lie to.
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Speaker 2: The public about why they were doing this. Talk about sinister.
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Speaker 4: Well, you're not telling me that levels of government lie
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Speaker 4: about things, are you, James.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just what they do.
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Speaker 4: All the time, because how the hell else are they
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Speaker 4: going to get this crap passes.
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Speaker 3: This is a premeditate preparing press releases know to be untrue.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, and this is not the first time
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Speaker 4: it's happened. It won't be the last time it's happened.
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Speaker 4: Because if a government, whether it be local, state, or federal,
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Speaker 4: is intent on doing something, they will find a way
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Speaker 4: to do it. It relies on people like Nicholas Restepping
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Speaker 4: in and saying, actually, we expect better, The voters expect
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Speaker 4: better from us than this. You mentioned reconciliation, though, try
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Speaker 4: to reconcile this with reality, because well, it's basically impossible
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Speaker 4: because it's got nothing to do with reality. The Sex
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Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner, who I thought would have been interested in sex,
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Speaker 4: and I don't mean you know what you get up
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Speaker 4: to in the bedroom. I mean genuine sex, which is binary.
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Speaker 1: It's male and it's female.
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Speaker 4: You can have your arguments about gender being fluid, and
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Speaker 4: you can be a man one day and a woman
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Speaker 4: the next. We're talking about the Sex Discrimination Commissioner. You're
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Speaker 4: set is chosen when you come out the worm, because
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Speaker 4: we can see what genitals you have. No, the Sex
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Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner says that transgender women ie biological men.
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Speaker 1: Should have the same rights as pregnant women. Now I'm
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Speaker 1: a bit.
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Speaker 4: Confused here because I would have thought pregnancy means that
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Speaker 4: you need to have overreas and a uterus.
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Speaker 1: And all of that kind of thing.
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Speaker 4: And even as it says in law a woman is
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Speaker 4: someone who could be potentially pregnant, I mean you still
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Speaker 4: need to have.
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Speaker 1: Overa isn't a uterus and whatever?
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Speaker 4: To be potentially pregnant. But maybe I'm an idiot because
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Speaker 4: the Sex Discrimination Commissioner and a Cody who's been caught
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Speaker 4: up in this ongoing court case between Roxanne Tickle and
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Speaker 4: Sal Grover, who started the social media app Giggle, and
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you're well aware of the case where Tickle
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Speaker 4: was denied access to the app because Tickle is not
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Speaker 4: a woman. Tickle is a biologue, logical man, but says
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Speaker 4: I should be given access because I'm a transgender woman,
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Speaker 4: and the court ruled against sal Grover. She's now appealing
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Speaker 4: that in the court that started today to the Sex
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Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner puts in a submission to say that if
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Speaker 4: you are a transgender woman, you should have the same
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Speaker 4: access to spaces and rights as a pregnant woman, because,
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Speaker 4: according to her, the definition of a woman including someone
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Speaker 4: who is potentially pregnant, means that that, in turn, this
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Speaker 4: is direct from her intern confirms that the word woman
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Speaker 4: is intended to include a trans woman.
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Speaker 1: How how do you make.
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Speaker 4: The connection between pregnant woman existing in law, meaning that the.
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Speaker 1: Definition of woman is obviously.
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Speaker 4: Meant to include biological men. I'm confused.
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Speaker 5: If anything, I think this proves the exact opposite of
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Speaker 5: what she's arguing, because the whole problem here is it
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Speaker 5: in twenty thirteen, the Gillard government took the biological definition
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Speaker 5: of a female out of the Sex Discrimination Act and
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Speaker 5: left it open to being trans people whatever. And that's
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Speaker 5: the crux of this whole case is trying to figure
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Speaker 5: out what is actually the definition of a woman in
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Speaker 5: Australian law. But to say that the law specifically talks
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Speaker 5: about pregnant women actually puts a biological constraint around what
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Speaker 5: defines a woman, and that is the whole thing that
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Speaker 5: would then protect women's faces, because hey, it comes down
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Speaker 5: to biology, and that's the entire argument of Giggle and
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Speaker 5: Sally Grover in this case. So the fact that she's
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Speaker 5: bringing this up and then saying that actually biology doesn't
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Speaker 5: matter and you can be a trans person and still
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Speaker 5: be a woman is so contradictory. Apparently she's a human
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Speaker 5: rights lawyer, but she clearly didn't do very well in
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Speaker 5: law school because you learn how to actually mount arguments,
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Speaker 5: and this is an entirely self defeating It's hard.
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Speaker 3: To be a human rights lawyer when you don't understand
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Speaker 3: basic humanity. It's also hard to be a sex discrimination
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Speaker 3: commissioner when you have effectively ruled that sex is completely irrelevant.
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Speaker 2: And unable to be defined.
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Speaker 3: If anyone can be a woman, then there's no point
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Speaker 3: having a commissioner to protect the rights of women because
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Speaker 3: effectively women don't exist. I want to know where's Julia Gillard.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Julia Gillard. She was the one that allowed
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Speaker 3: the Lord to be changed. She's speaking at conferences all
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Speaker 3: around the country. Last month or I think it was
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Speaker 3: May she spoke, and I love the title of this
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Speaker 3: conference Calber. It's called Women Unlimited Leadership Seminar. Well, according
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Speaker 3: to Julia Gillard's definition of women back in twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 3: it is unlimited.
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Speaker 2: Now anybody can be a woman.
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Speaker 3: She allowed this change to the Sex Discrimination Act. Julia
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Speaker 3: Gillard has just gone off into the sunset. She's now
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Speaker 3: speaking at women's conferences while our courts are trying to
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Speaker 3: work out could a man be pregnant?
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Speaker 2: No, well, could be potentially pregnant. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned Cel Grover up now heading towards a
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Speaker 3: million dollars in court costs simply trying to define what
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Speaker 3: is a woman through the Australian courts, and we don't
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Speaker 3: even need that because the UK Supreme Court found the
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Speaker 3: definition just a few weeks ago and said it's biological,
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Speaker 3: which I do. Note Ana Cody, the Sex Discrimination Commissioner,
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Speaker 3: forgot or neglected to mention any biology in her submission
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Speaker 3: to the court when arguing trans women could become pregnant.
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Speaker 3: Refused to reference biology at all. This is all ideology,
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Speaker 3: and why would you have an ideologue in charge of
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Speaker 3: protecting anyone's rights, let alone women.
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Speaker 4: See, this is the thing, because you could potentially argue,
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying it's right, but you could potentially argue
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Speaker 4: that a man can be pregnant if your definition of
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Speaker 4: a man also includes biological women, on the basis that
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Speaker 4: a biological woman who now sees they're a man can
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Speaker 4: get pregnant.
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Speaker 1: Right, So you could run that argument, But the.
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Speaker 4: Law necessarily connects the woman bit to the pregnancy. Right,
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Speaker 4: So a biological male who becomes a woman says they're
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Speaker 4: a woman, according to the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, could be
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Speaker 4: potentially pregnant. Now, surely the only way that a biological
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Speaker 4: man can be potentially pregnant is if medical science has
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Speaker 4: implanted the over reason, the worm and all the business into.
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Speaker 1: A blow so on that basis, am I.
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Speaker 4: Not afforded or ought to be afforded protection because I'm
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Speaker 4: a potential amputee because you know, bits of my body
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Speaker 4: could be locked off at some.
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Speaker 1: Point in the future.
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Speaker 4: Exactly, how can you argue that that's what the law
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Speaker 4: is suggesting, because then I'm potentially gay.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm potentially anything I want to be at
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Speaker 1: any point in time. If that's what the sex discriminated.
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Speaker 3: Once you get rid of definitions, well it becomes impossible
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Speaker 3: to function in a society because nothing means anything. And
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Speaker 3: that's support we're at when it comes to sex, gender
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Speaker 3: and laws.
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Speaker 2: That protect people of different persuasions.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's once again women that are the ones
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Speaker 5: being shafted. But you know who else is being shafted
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Speaker 5: the entirety of the Australian population. Over the weekend we
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Speaker 5: saw a shocking march take place in Sydney and in Melbourne.
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Speaker 5: Around one hundred thousand people took to the streets to
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Speaker 5: march for Palestine. Now, interestingly, there were zero Australian flags inside.
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Speaker 5: Actually there was one in Melbourne, but it was being burnt.
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Speaker 5: Funny that the one Australian flag that we see at
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Speaker 5: a march for Palestine is being burnt. And this is
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Speaker 5: what I say. I totally understand people who feel sad
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Speaker 5: for the civilians suffering in Gazo, who see images of children,
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Speaker 5: and naturally your heart breaks. But this pro Palestine movement
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Speaker 5: is really a trojan horse for radicals on the radical
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Speaker 5: Islamis side and also the radical leftist side. This is
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Speaker 5: not about ending suffering. If it was, they would be
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Speaker 5: calling on her Master surrender and release the hostages. But
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Speaker 5: we saw none of that, not even a mention of
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Speaker 5: the emaciated hostage video that was literally released on the
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Speaker 5: same day as this march. Instead we see the calls
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Speaker 5: to burn down Australia, death to America, death to Israel.
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Speaker 5: It's all about hatred. When will people learn that this
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Speaker 5: is not about Palestine, This is about hating and hating
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Speaker 5: the West.
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Speaker 3: The same people that were burning that Australian flag also
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Speaker 3: spray painted on the road abolish Australia.
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Speaker 2: Two thoughts that the Premier.
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Speaker 3: Victoria just sin to Ellen came out this morning on
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Speaker 3: the Today Show I think it was, and said it
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Speaker 3: was deplorable that they were burning the Australian flag. Well,
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Speaker 3: the Victorian labor premier is playing with fire herself because
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Speaker 3: at the Victorian Labor State Conference on the weekend, they
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Speaker 3: voted overwhelmingly to immediately recognize a state of Palestine, and
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Speaker 3: can you believe it, they rejected emotion to hold off
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Speaker 3: until it was confirmed Hamas had no rule and the
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Speaker 3: hostages were released. They rejected that proposal and insisted Palestine
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Speaker 3: be recognized immediately.
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Speaker 2: So for Jacinta Allen on the one hand, to.
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Speaker 3: Say it's deplorable that people are behaving this way while
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Speaker 3: her own party is moving these sorts of motions just.
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Speaker 2: Racks of stupidity. And the other thing I want to
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Speaker 2: know is this Caleb.
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Speaker 3: People say, well, you can't you know, tar the whole
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Speaker 3: pro Palestine march with the actions. One guy held up
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Speaker 3: a sign of the Eyotoller, a couple of people waved
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Speaker 3: to muss flags. But there were hundreds. There's one hundred
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Speaker 3: thousand people, so you can't smear them all, right. What
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Speaker 3: I want to know is why didn't the people in
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Speaker 3: the march, seeing someone's waving a terrorist flag or seeing
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Speaker 3: someone's holding up the side of iatoll to say, hey,
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Speaker 3: pull that down, that's not who we are.
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Speaker 2: But they don't.
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Speaker 3: They all march kindly alongside them, not batting an eye.
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Speaker 3: That's why I don't buy this whole thing that that's unrepresentative.
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Speaker 3: If it was unrepresentative, people in the march themselves would
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Speaker 3: have taken action.
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Speaker 2: We wouldn't have anything to talk about.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, there are some people I'm not saying how
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Speaker 4: many some people in there who are probably too stupid
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Speaker 4: to even realize that, which is the sad part of it, right,
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Speaker 4: because you end up with I would call them current
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Speaker 4: thing people, right, and the basis of all of their
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Speaker 4: issues are with the West, and they will pick whatever
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Speaker 4: the current issue is and latch onto it and somehow
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Speaker 4: bring that back to what their ultimate argument is. That's
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Speaker 4: why you have people burning the Australian flag. They're not
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Speaker 4: there about Palestine or Israel or anything else really, they're
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Speaker 4: there generally about their hatred of the West and their
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Speaker 4: hatred of the country they are in. And well, if
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Speaker 4: you're there saying abolish Australia, I mean, just bugger off.
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Speaker 1: You don't have to be here, do you.
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Speaker 5: Well it's funny you say bugger off, because there was
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Speaker 5: a group at the rally in Sydney that we're chanting this.
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Speaker 5: They're chanting, pack your bags, leave our lands while flying
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Speaker 5: Islamist flags and marching for Palestine. We're not a single
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Speaker 5: Australian flag inside. How about if you care about the
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Speaker 5: Middle East in Palestine so much, you move back there,
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Speaker 5: leave our Lands? Like, why are you chanting for them
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Speaker 5: when you're in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they also said this is our bridge
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Speaker 3: as well, so it was pretty clear what their intentions
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Speaker 3: were if you want to see where this is going,
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Speaker 3: and I think it's fascinating to watch what's happening in
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Speaker 3: the UK, which is a number of years I think
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Speaker 3: ahead of us that they provide a really interesting and
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Speaker 3: disturbing window to look through if you want to see
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Speaker 3: where we're going to end up. There's a group in
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Speaker 3: the UK called the Palestine Action Group and they are
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Speaker 3: a bunch of pro Palestinians who've been involved in protest marches, etc.
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Speaker 3: And then they started engaging in various forms of protest
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Speaker 3: that involved vandalism that involves smashing up Israeli factories or
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Speaker 3: factories that were creating items to go to Israel.
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Speaker 2: They produced a.
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Speaker 3: Pamphlet advising followers of their group how they could get
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Speaker 3: involved in vandalizing different things then, and this is the
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Speaker 3: tipping point. Members of Palestine Action in the UK broke
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Speaker 3: into an air force base and vandalized two military planes,
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Speaker 3: one of which has been used to fly prime ministers
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Speaker 3: and members of the royal family internationally. Now, at that
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Speaker 3: point the Starma government finally got a brain and thought,
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Speaker 3: this has gone beyond free speech, This has gone beyond
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Speaker 3: just protest. This is now a terrorist organization because they
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Speaker 3: are acting against the national interest damaging military equipment. So
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Speaker 3: they declared Palestine Action a terror group, and they said
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Speaker 3: anybody promoting it, waving placards depicting Palestine Action is liable
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Speaker 3: for fifteen years jail. Well, the problem is, see, sometimes
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Speaker 3: Frayer things are so small you think it's not worth
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Speaker 3: doing anything about it, only for it to become so
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Speaker 3: big now you can't.
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Speaker 2: Do anything about it.
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Speaker 3: They've already arrested in the last few weeks two hundred
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Speaker 3: people for being members of Palestine Action, which is now
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Speaker 3: designated alongside ISIS and other terrorist organizations. No one has however,
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Speaker 3: been charged because they're waiting to see where all of
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Speaker 3: this goes. So members of Palestine Action have now said,
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Speaker 3: come this weekend, we are going to have a mass rally.
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Speaker 2: We'll mobilize thousands of our.
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Speaker 3: Members to march through the streets and we will dare
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Speaker 3: the UK police to arrest us on terror supporting charges.
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Speaker 3: They won't because the police will be overwhelmed. The court
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Speaker 3: system is already overwhelmed, and UK prisons are already overwhelmed.
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Speaker 3: And so now you're gonna have a situation where you've
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Speaker 3: got a designated terror group with supporters of said terror
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Speaker 3: group marching through the streets, daring police to arrest them.
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Speaker 2: And I think we'll find that police are unable to
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Speaker 2: go through with it.
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Speaker 4: You know, they should be able to mobilize or they
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Speaker 4: have to mobilize every copper in the UK and have
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Speaker 4: them there ready to go when this happens. And we
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Speaker 4: should not lose sight of the fact how close we
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Speaker 4: came to a situation like this, though on different grounds
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Speaker 4: happening in Sydney yesterday, because if the court had said
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Speaker 4: on Saturday that that protest.
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Speaker 1: March could not go aheind over the Sydney.
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Speaker 4: Harbor Bridge, it wouldn't have been ninety thousand people, but
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Speaker 4: there would have been a significant contingent would have rocked
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Speaker 4: up yesterday to make exactly this point to test the
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Speaker 4: police to see exactly how much they can get away with.
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Speaker 4: And the problem is that if you let them get
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Speaker 4: away with it, and even putting aside the particular issues
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Speaker 4: that they're marching for here, the message you seem to
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Speaker 4: every other weird, disparate group if you allow this to happen,
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Speaker 4: is that you can have your special interest thing going
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Speaker 4: on and we're powerless to stop you doing anything about it.
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Speaker 4: And once you've sent that message, it won't just be
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Speaker 4: Pali rallies.
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Speaker 1: It will be everything.
20:12
Speaker 4: Under the sun. You are saying, we are weak, and
20:15
Speaker 4: what we are talking about here are two important principles
20:17
Speaker 4: on the Sydney Harbor Bridge, the right of people to
20:20
Speaker 4: go about their everyday lives without being disrupted, and.
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Speaker 1: The United Kingdom the right.
20:25
Speaker 4: For people to not have terror groups operating in their country.
20:29
Speaker 1: They could demonstrate in the name of any.
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Speaker 4: Other group that was pro Palestine and that would be
20:35
Speaker 4: perfectly legal, a group that hasn't broken into raft bases, right,
20:40
Speaker 4: but they refuse to do that. There should be a
20:42
Speaker 4: state of emergency. They should have every copper there to
20:45
Speaker 4: arrest every single one of them.
20:48
Speaker 5: I think it does raise really interesting question though about
20:51
Speaker 5: where the UK is headed, and a lot of these
20:53
Speaker 5: rallies in the UK. It's incredible footage because on the
20:57
Speaker 5: one side of the street you'll see just masses of
21:00
Speaker 5: Palestine flags and then on the other side you'll see
21:03
Speaker 5: masses of UK flags counter protesting against the pro Palestinians.
21:07
Speaker 5: But now you're at a point in the UK where
21:09
Speaker 5: you've got a major movement with thousands of members openly
21:14
Speaker 5: challenging the authority of the government and rule of law
21:20
Speaker 5: itself in ironically the country that invented the rule of law.
21:24
Speaker 5: It does lead you to question where is this headed
21:28
Speaker 5: because they're not backing down. This is only escalating, and
21:32
Speaker 5: there have been people who've said perhaps the UK is
21:34
Speaker 5: headed for civil war. I don't know. That might be
21:36
Speaker 5: a bit traumatic, but when you have this level of
21:39
Speaker 5: hostility and an open challenge to the government, challenging their
21:43
Speaker 5: authority in their own land, it's not a good sign.
21:46
Speaker 3: The expression the enemies are inside the gates comes to mind.
21:50
Speaker 1: And you're letting them run the show.
21:52
Speaker 4: That you can't let them run the show because once
21:54
Speaker 4: they get the stick that it'll just bury it.
21:56
Speaker 3: Australian needs to look at that and realize we have
21:58
Speaker 3: a problem here. If they don't start to get on
22:01
Speaker 3: top of it, we're going to end up in exactly
22:03
Speaker 3: the same position where people will just say, try and
22:06
Speaker 3: stop us. You can't, and then we no longer have
22:08
Speaker 3: law and order and we have activist groups running the country.
22:11
Speaker 4: That The last bloke who really did that in Australia
22:13
Speaker 4: was Sir Jobilki Peterson, who you know when the spring
22:16
Speaker 4: Box came out. And I know there was trouble at
22:18
Speaker 4: the time, obviously with apartheid, but the spring Box came
22:22
Speaker 4: out and he said, regardless of what's going on in
22:24
Speaker 4: the country, they have a right to play in Australia,
22:27
Speaker 4: and demonstrators said we are going to stop these games
22:30
Speaker 4: from going ahead. He called a state of emergency, which
22:33
Speaker 4: gave the state government special powers to control where they
22:37
Speaker 4: could and could not play.
22:38
Speaker 1: They took grounds and.
22:39
Speaker 4: See, you're going to play here because it's where we
22:41
Speaker 4: can best control it. And the police were empowered to
22:44
Speaker 4: do whatever possible to stop the protests. And you know,
22:47
Speaker 4: if you're going to protest for a terrorist group, I
22:50
Speaker 4: think that's probably fair. And I mean back here at home,
22:53
Speaker 4: Head Husick, former labor minister now Labour backbencher has a
22:56
Speaker 4: rather novel idea for what to recognize in Palestine as
23:01
Speaker 4: a statehood do. He says it will somehow hurt her mass.
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Speaker 6: I think there's no better way to undercut her mass
23:09
Speaker 6: than to do the recognition process. And the reason I
23:11
Speaker 6: explain will say that is because this is a bunch
23:16
Speaker 6: of people who exist on the basis of a grievance.
23:19
Speaker 6: If you say that you're going to reform, you're going
23:21
Speaker 6: to push for democratic institutions, reform the Palestinian authority, demilitarize
23:26
Speaker 6: her mass, and have no role for her mass. Their
23:29
Speaker 6: role has been effectively undercut. And so I think there's
23:33
Speaker 6: probably more reason to do it than not.
23:36
Speaker 1: Okay, so I get the second half of what he's saying.
23:40
Speaker 4: I don't know how giving them statehood before you've gotten
23:44
Speaker 4: rid of the mob running the joint fixes the problem
23:48
Speaker 4: that he says it's going to fix. I mean, it's
23:50
Speaker 4: because they have said we want statehood. So here's your statehood.
23:55
Speaker 4: But where does the mask get taken out?
23:56
Speaker 2: But he's completely wrong. His whole premise is wrong. He
24:00
Speaker 2: says that her mass is a group of people. It's
24:02
Speaker 2: a group of people who.
24:03
Speaker 3: Are Motley Crew happen to find each other one weekend.
24:06
Speaker 3: There are a group of people whose reason for existence
24:09
Speaker 3: is grievance.
24:10
Speaker 5: No.
24:10
Speaker 3: No, their charter says their reason for existence is the
24:14
Speaker 3: elimination and destruction of the state of Israel. So his
24:17
Speaker 3: premise is completely false, and you would think ed Husik
24:21
Speaker 3: would know that. But it's like saying, you know, if
24:23
Speaker 3: you just give the mugger your mobile phone, did, he
24:25
Speaker 3: won't ever reason to mug you anymore.
24:27
Speaker 2: Problem solved. It's absolutely ludicrous.
24:30
Speaker 5: It's really perplexing. And by saying that her Mass is
24:32
Speaker 5: there because of grievance implies that there's a justification for existence,
24:38
Speaker 5: which is completely false. And what we know is that
24:42
Speaker 5: you don't actually need a Palestinian state to make peace
24:45
Speaker 5: with the Middle East. Look at what Trump achieved in
24:47
Speaker 5: the Abraham Accords. You have to bypass the question of
24:50
Speaker 5: Palasinian statehood because ultimately it is a trojan horse for
24:54
Speaker 5: the Muslim brotherhood. This is what they want through harmas,
24:58
Speaker 5: through their proxies. And even then, even if you got
25:01
Speaker 5: rid of her mass, which by the way, I wonder
25:03
Speaker 5: if he would acknowledge you, that's exactly what Israel's attempting
25:06
Speaker 5: to do so. If you want to demilitarize her mass,
25:09
Speaker 5: you have to support Israel's war against them. But I'm
25:12
Speaker 5: sure he would not support Israel's war. Even if you
25:14
Speaker 5: look at somewhere like the West Bank where you have
25:16
Speaker 5: the Palestinian authority, the so called moderates of the Palestinian movement,
25:21
Speaker 5: they still have pay for to slay programs where they
25:24
Speaker 5: pay the families of suicide bombers and terrorists like I'm sorry,
25:29
Speaker 5: there is no future Palestinian stage with any of the
25:35
Speaker 5: current mob in charge. But what is truly a blight
25:40
Speaker 5: on the West is that since October seven we have
25:43
Speaker 5: heard calls for Palaestinian state that would have been utterly
25:48
Speaker 5: inconceivable before. And that is exactly what her mass wanted.
25:59
Speaker 7: This would well Philo Si governbat Oktoba Philostine after investment
26:08
Speaker 7: in them, and hassabat Okdaoba Philostinia.
26:16
Speaker 5: So what their senior Hamas Fishal just said was the
26:19
Speaker 5: fruits of October seven are what caused the entire world
26:22
Speaker 5: to open its eyes to the Palestinian issue, and they
26:26
Speaker 5: are moving towards it with force. That is that the
26:29
Speaker 5: Palestinian people are deserving of a country. Well, there you go.
26:33
Speaker 5: The whole purpose of October seven was to subvert the
26:37
Speaker 5: peace process, was to cause a war that was almost
26:41
Speaker 5: unwinnable for Israel to win without severe civilian casualties. That's
26:47
Speaker 5: exactly what they've gotten. The whole world has turned against Israel,
26:50
Speaker 5: and people like ed Husick, like Anthony Albanesi with their
26:53
Speaker 5: calls for Palestinian state, playing right into it.
26:55
Speaker 3: The good news for ed Husick, though, is I mean,
26:57
Speaker 3: US three are sitting here disagreeing with him, but everyone
27:00
Speaker 3: degrees with Ed who's senior members from US think he's
27:03
Speaker 3: doing weight work.
27:05
Speaker 2: So he should be proud.
27:06
Speaker 5: You know.
27:06
Speaker 4: It's like it is the ultimate putting the cart before
27:09
Speaker 4: the horses. I just I don't understand the argument it makes,
27:15
Speaker 4: absolutely noticing the other don't reward terrorists by saying, here's
27:19
Speaker 4: why you went and did it. Will give you what
27:22
Speaker 4: you want and then hopefully you'll shut up.
27:24
Speaker 1: It's like the kid that.
27:26
Speaker 4: Winges and wines and carries on because they want the chocolate,
27:29
Speaker 4: and the parents says, well, no, you can't have the chocolate,
27:32
Speaker 4: and then they start crying and screaming, and you go, look,
27:35
Speaker 4: I'll just give him the chocolate to shut up.
27:37
Speaker 1: What does the kid learn when you do that?
27:39
Speaker 4: Well, if I make enough noise, I'll get the chocolate.
27:43
Speaker 1: So what do you think they're going to do after that?
27:44
Speaker 1: They'll keep screaming and crying and carry on to get
27:47
Speaker 1: the chocolate.
27:47
Speaker 3: Sort of the only silly thing that Ed Who's Sick said.
27:50
Speaker 3: He also said that numbers of people marching in Australia
27:53
Speaker 3: over the weekend were really upset about Benjaminett and Yahoo's
27:57
Speaker 3: inability to differentiate between Sevilian and combatants in Gaza, forgetting
28:02
Speaker 3: to mention that, you know, Hamask combatants only were uniforms
28:07
Speaker 3: when having pageants to hand over the corpses of Jewish hostages.
28:11
Speaker 3: Other than that, they don't wear uniforms, so they're kind
28:14
Speaker 3: of hard to distinguish, and of course they use human shields.
28:17
Speaker 3: So for Ed Who'sick to say we're upset about Israel's
28:20
Speaker 3: inability to differentiate whilst leaving those facts out, I think
28:25
Speaker 3: just shows he's been incredibly selective. He's running a clear
28:30
Speaker 3: agenda here rather than providing fair minded commentary.
28:33
Speaker 5: Exactly. Well, let's move on to the US. Now we've
28:36
Speaker 5: been following this controversy. That's arisen out of Sydney Sweeney's
28:41
Speaker 5: ad for American Eagle jeans, where she said she has
28:45
Speaker 5: great genes, she's got blue eyes and blonde hair. Of course,
28:48
Speaker 5: the left jumped to their classic insult, which is that
28:50
Speaker 5: she's a Nazi, a white supremacist, blah blah blah. Well,
28:54
Speaker 5: the story has developed and now we love her even
28:59
Speaker 5: more that Sidney Sweeney is a registered Republican and Trump
29:04
Speaker 5: is also super happy, very hard.
29:08
Speaker 1: Hack she's a registered Republican. Oh now I love her ad?
29:13
Speaker 1: Is that right?
29:14
Speaker 8: As Sidney Sweeney, you'd be surprised at how many people
29:18
Speaker 8: are Republicans. That's what I wouldn't have known.
29:21
Speaker 1: But I'm glad you told me that.
29:24
Speaker 8: If Sydney Sweeney is a registered Republican, I think her
29:28
Speaker 8: head is fantastic.
29:30
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much, everybody here making well.
29:33
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see how the left will react
29:36
Speaker 5: to this one. As if being white with blonde hair
29:38
Speaker 5: and blue eyes wasn't bad enough, she's a Republican.
29:42
Speaker 1: I mean, could this woman get any better?
29:45
Speaker 4: Honestly, honestly, I said last week, we are so back,
29:49
Speaker 4: and you know what, We're even more back now that
29:51
Speaker 4: we know this. You know, she's hot, she's successful, she
29:56
Speaker 4: you know, oh, doesn't have white guilt.
29:58
Speaker 1: I mean that's awful. And she's also a Republican.
30:01
Speaker 4: I mean, can you imagine the people in Hollywood melting
30:04
Speaker 4: down now to know that this woman that they have
30:07
Speaker 4: propelled to stardom, who he's using everything she has to
30:12
Speaker 4: make a buck and say, you.
30:13
Speaker 1: Know what, I don't give a toss.
30:15
Speaker 4: They will not be able to get over what they've
30:17
Speaker 4: done to this woman, which is to give her something
30:20
Speaker 4: that they try to take away most of the time
30:22
Speaker 4: from people who have a right wing inclination in Hollywood.
30:25
Speaker 4: But you know, you've got Clint Eastwood was a great
30:29
Speaker 4: man who obviously agrees with us.
30:31
Speaker 1: Today we've got Sydney Sweeney. How good is that?
30:33
Speaker 3: It's not that much of a surprise, I don't think,
30:35
Speaker 3: because generally, I think the rule of thumb is if
30:38
Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrities don't talk about politics at all, they're probably Republicans,
30:43
Speaker 3: and they just keep your mouth shut because otherwise you'll
30:45
Speaker 3: be crucified as she is now being.
30:48
Speaker 2: But it's not hurting her.
30:50
Speaker 3: The American Eagle Jean's website has had four billion hits
30:54
Speaker 3: since this controversy erupted. They've garnered sixty five million dollars
30:59
Speaker 3: worth of media this whole controversy.
31:01
Speaker 2: If you were buying ads for the amount of time on.
31:04
Speaker 3: TV and in print that's been spoken about, they would
31:07
Speaker 3: have had to spend sixty five million dollars for the
31:09
Speaker 3: advertising equivalent, and their brand equity is up three hundred
31:13
Speaker 3: and ten million dollars, So they're doing very very well
31:16
Speaker 3: out of this.
31:16
Speaker 4: You'd think at some point the left would learn this
31:18
Speaker 4: lesson because exactly the same thing happened with Donald Trump.
31:22
Speaker 4: If you track the election advertising spends for the Democrats
31:27
Speaker 4: in every election where they faced Donald Trump sixteen, twenty
31:31
Speaker 4: and twenty four, they have outspent the Republicans significantly right,
31:38
Speaker 4: and despite that, Trump has been elected twice because Trump's
31:43
Speaker 4: media mentions were significantly higher in all of those elections
31:48
Speaker 4: than the Democrats that he faced, he doesn't have to
31:51
Speaker 4: pay for the publicity because simply by existing he gets
31:55
Speaker 4: the publicity. The Left generates that for him by saying how.
31:59
Speaker 1: Terrible, and they've done exactly the same thing for American Eagle.
32:03
Speaker 4: You know, they're looney enough to think that an ad
32:06
Speaker 4: talking about blue gens is somehow eugenics, Nazism, and all
32:11
Speaker 4: of a sudden they get all this free publicity and
32:13
Speaker 4: people are buying American eagle gens. They're not buying them
32:16
Speaker 4: because they're Nazis, They're buying them because utwerps happen to
32:20
Speaker 4: put the brand in front of them.
32:22
Speaker 5: And telling all young American men that if they think
32:25
Speaker 5: Sydney Sweeney is attractive, they're somehow supporting Nazism is one
32:29
Speaker 5: sure find way to ensure that the Republicans continue to
32:33
Speaker 5: win the male youth vote for pretty much the rest
32:36
Speaker 5: of time. But other good news in America is that
32:39
Speaker 5: the Trump effect is wellatily in motion with the border.
32:43
Speaker 5: Apprehensions of illegal migrants at the border were just four
32:47
Speaker 5: three hundred and ninety nine last month. That is down
32:51
Speaker 5: from a Biden era peak of two hundred and forty
32:56
Speaker 5: nine thousand, and none of those people have been released now,
33:02
Speaker 5: so you are getting a quarter of a million illegal
33:04
Speaker 5: migrants crossing into the US in one month, and now
33:09
Speaker 5: that's down to just four thousand attempting who were all captured.
33:12
Speaker 5: I mean, pretty pretty spectacular.
33:14
Speaker 2: Trump just keeps on winning.
33:16
Speaker 3: I wish we could have some winning in Australia, but
33:17
Speaker 3: it doesn't like any of us are going to be
33:19
Speaker 3: winning anytime soon, especially after the Productivity Commission has released
33:23
Speaker 3: a report ahead of Jim Chalmers round table warning that
33:27
Speaker 3: the government is going to have to spend far more
33:29
Speaker 3: than they ever expected if we're to reach our net
33:32
Speaker 3: zero by twenty to fifty targets. On top of that,
33:35
Speaker 3: the Productivity Commission saying the government is going to have
33:37
Speaker 3: to take stronger action in terms of intervening in the
33:40
Speaker 3: economy and providing more subsidies for renewables. The whole point
33:45
Speaker 3: of this, Caleb, I think, is to provide cover for
33:49
Speaker 3: Albanesi and Chris Bowen, because they are going to have
33:53
Speaker 3: to make some big decisions and a lot of people
33:54
Speaker 3: have been warning the Productivity Commission and their reports into
33:58
Speaker 3: this head of this round table for.
34:00
Speaker 2: Charmers, we're going to have higher taxes, they're.
34:03
Speaker 3: Going to have to intervene more in the economy, and
34:05
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to say, well, the expert
34:07
Speaker 3: advice has left us with no option. We're following the
34:10
Speaker 3: expert advice. Clearly, this is where all of this is heavy.
34:14
Speaker 4: But the expert advice seemingly is things aren't going well,
34:17
Speaker 4: so let's keep doing.
34:18
Speaker 2: Them, nou nowre right.
34:20
Speaker 4: And generally, if you're trying to get something done in
34:23
Speaker 4: your everyday life or in business, and you go, why
34:26
Speaker 4: is this business model not working? Why am I not
34:30
Speaker 4: selling the genes? Well, we'll get Sydney Sweeney on board.
34:33
Speaker 1: But you know, why is this particular thing not working.
34:35
Speaker 4: I'm going to go back to the drawing board and
34:38
Speaker 4: either find the fault in this plan or I'm going
34:40
Speaker 4: to come up with another plan. The Productivity Commission says,
34:44
Speaker 4: you've been getting things wrong for a very long time,
34:46
Speaker 4: and very clearly we're not going to meet our net
34:48
Speaker 4: zero targets.
34:49
Speaker 1: So instead of going back to the drawing board.
34:51
Speaker 4: And saying there must be another way to potentially work
34:54
Speaker 4: towards zero new clear energy, well, you know we need
34:58
Speaker 4: to rethink about using the other energy resources we have
35:02
Speaker 4: available to us.
35:03
Speaker 1: No, let's just go harder on renewables.
35:06
Speaker 4: And spend more money. It's like what we do with education.
35:09
Speaker 4: The teachers say we need more money because the results
35:11
Speaker 4: are through the floor, so we give them more money
35:13
Speaker 4: and then the results keep going through the floor and
35:15
Speaker 4: we don't stop to go, hmm, maybe spending more money
35:18
Speaker 4: is and fixing the problem exactly.
35:20
Speaker 2: Now we need to go to a break.
35:21
Speaker 3: But before we do, I'm going to ask you Freya,
35:24
Speaker 3: because you've got some big news coming up, or you
35:25
Speaker 3: want to tell us what's happening with.
35:27
Speaker 5: You I do while starting Sunday August seventeen at six
35:31
Speaker 5: pm here on Sky News Australia, I will be getting
35:34
Speaker 5: my own show Freyer Fires Up. Here's a little sneak
35:37
Speaker 5: think of what you can expect. Are you fired up
35:43
Speaker 5: and are ready?
35:44
Speaker 2: Frail Leach is bringing the heat to skying into Australia.
35:48
Speaker 5: This is where you'll get heated debates from all sides.
35:51
Speaker 5: And when I say heated, I mean confrontational, controversial, robut serious,
35:57
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Speaker 3: Very exciting, absolutely and congratulations. Really look forward to tuning in.
36:18
Speaker 3: It'll be a great program. We're going to go to
36:20
Speaker 3: a break. When we come back, we'll look at what's
36:22
Speaker 3: making news tomorrow, including a Chinese national arrested and charged
36:26
Speaker 3: on spying charges here in Australia, and the government warns
36:30
Speaker 3: too many people are treating unemployment benefits as a source
36:33
Speaker 3: of income rather than a temporary help.
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Speaker 2: All of that and more in just a moment. Welcome
36:45
Speaker 2: back to the program.
36:46
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow. So
36:49
Speaker 3: you hear it here first, and Freyer, you're all fired
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Speaker 3: up with the Herald sun.
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Speaker 5: I am.
36:53
Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 5: The headline here is locked and Goaded Brazentine criminals posting
36:58
Speaker 5: and boasting to social media from behind bars, inside court
37:01
Speaker 5: and police vans. Team criminals are brazenly posting to their
37:05
Speaker 5: social media accounts from behind bars, inside children's courts and
37:09
Speaker 5: the back of police divvy vans. You defenders are finding
37:13
Speaker 5: ways to brag about their time and custody to their
37:16
Speaker 5: online followers. How do they still have their phones in
37:21
Speaker 5: police vans, in courts and in jails is my first question.
37:25
Speaker 5: And I guess secondly, I mean, we know this is
37:28
Speaker 5: a big driver behind you crime. It's the social clouds
37:31
Speaker 5: these kids think they get from committing these offenses. It's
37:35
Speaker 5: truly horrible.
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Speaker 3: Well, it just demonstrates contempt, right, It's absolutely contempt for
37:40
Speaker 3: the law that, even upon being arrested and thrown in
37:43
Speaker 3: the back of a divvy van. Rather than being horrified,
37:46
Speaker 3: rather than being nervous or scared or apprehensive, they're on
37:49
Speaker 3: their phone boasting to all their friends. I'm in the
37:51
Speaker 3: back of a divvy van. I've just been arrested for
37:53
Speaker 3: X y Z. Here's video of what I did.
37:55
Speaker 4: But you know, you're in the back of the divvy
37:57
Speaker 4: van being taken to the watchhouse where you'll peer in
38:00
Speaker 4: court tomorrow and then they'll give you bail anyway, So
38:04
Speaker 4: what is there to worry about that? The kids don't
38:06
Speaker 4: have anything to worry about, essentially moving on to the
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Speaker 4: Australian tomorrow, who it says, get long term jobless off
38:13
Speaker 4: dole into work.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's just an extraordinary idea. I think. I can't
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Speaker 1: believe this.
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Speaker 4: It's even marked as an exclusive from Noah year Man.
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Speaker 1: It is an exclusive.
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Speaker 4: I should make fun of the fact he has got
38:26
Speaker 4: this exclusive story. But it's not an exclusive idea. I
38:29
Speaker 4: wouldn't have thought, but listen to this too. Many Australians
38:32
Speaker 4: are on job seeker for two years or more and
38:35
Speaker 4: labor needs a stronger focus on getting DOLE recipients into jobs.
38:39
Speaker 4: Social services Minister Tenure Bliber six department has warned in
38:42
Speaker 4: an extraordinary bureaucratic plea to bring welfare under control and
38:47
Speaker 4: a hard headed brief to the incoming minister. The Department
38:49
Speaker 4: of Social Services told ms Plipisk the share of job
38:52
Speaker 4: seeker recipients who had been on the payment for more
38:55
Speaker 4: than two years had ballooned in the past fifteen years.
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Speaker 4: I mean, if the department can see that this is
39:03
Speaker 4: a problem, and you know, the Public Services is not
39:07
Speaker 4: exactly opposed to wasting money and giving money to people
39:11
Speaker 4: who don't deserve it public money in particular, they can
39:15
Speaker 4: see that this has become a problem. Fifteen years. Of
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Speaker 4: course includes coalition government, so this has been ignored for
39:21
Speaker 4: quite some time.
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Speaker 1: But do we have any hope? Do you reckon of
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Speaker 1: ten you're cleaning this one up.
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Speaker 3: I am sure there's no hope, Actually, Caleb, I was.
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Speaker 3: I was trying to find something within me that could
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Speaker 3: be optimistic. The other interesting thing about this is it's
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Speaker 3: another example of the bureaucracy providing advice to the Albanezi
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Speaker 3: government saying, hey, you have a problem. Treasury advised Jim Chalmers,
39:44
Speaker 3: hey you need to raise taxes in order to get
39:46
Speaker 3: the budget under control. Now, Social Services Advising Tenure Plipasek,
39:50
Speaker 3: you've got a problem because just two years ago it
39:54
Speaker 3: was sorry, yeah, less than two years ago, it was
39:57
Speaker 3: thirty five percent of people on unemployment benefits had in
40:00
Speaker 3: so for two years or more. Now it's up to
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Speaker 3: fifty three percent. That's an incredible increase in a very
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Speaker 3: short space of time. And again it's one of these things.
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Speaker 3: If you don't get on top of it, eventually you're
40:12
Speaker 3: in all sorts of dru.
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Speaker 4: So don't we keep bringing people into this country because
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Speaker 4: we don't have people to fill the jobs?
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Speaker 5: Ye? Well, this is the thing. If you can't find
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Speaker 5: a job in this labor market, you're clearly not looking
40:23
Speaker 5: very hard. We've got a very low unemployment rate. Businesses
40:26
Speaker 5: are crying out for workers. It's not even in skilled areas.
40:29
Speaker 5: We do have gaps there, but things like fruit picking,
40:32
Speaker 5: farm hands, even waiters and hospitality jobs. There are vacancies everywhere.
40:38
Speaker 5: So for the fifty three percent of people on job
40:41
Speaker 5: Seeker that have been on the payment for over two years, seriously,
40:46
Speaker 5: you are not jobless. You are jobless by choice. And
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Speaker 5: it's interesting that in this article they also say that
40:53
Speaker 5: Social security now counts for one hundred and fifty two
40:57
Speaker 5: billion dollars a year of governments spending in our budget.
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Speaker 5: That is just enormous. So labor continues to use bureaucrats
41:06
Speaker 5: to kind of make the hard decisions for them. But
41:08
Speaker 5: they need to own up to this one and just
41:11
Speaker 5: make the tough calls for the sake of our country's future.
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of the Canberra Times,
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Speaker 3: Women's spying charge reads the headline. A Canberra business owner
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Speaker 3: has been accused of covertly gathering information about an ACT
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Speaker 3: association on behalf of the Chinese government. Refusing the woman's
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Speaker 3: bail application yesterday, the magistrate said the allegation went to
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Speaker 3: the question of Australia's national security. So the allegation is
41:38
Speaker 3: that this Chinese national, who has been in Australia since
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Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, started a small business but has
41:46
Speaker 3: allegedly been spying on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party,
41:50
Speaker 3: on a Buddhist association in the ACT and reporting back
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Speaker 3: to China on their activities. The Chinese government regards this
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Speaker 3: Buddhist association and their comrades as a cult and as
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Speaker 3: a danger, and the allegation is one of reckless spying,
42:09
Speaker 3: so that currently before court. Interesting case, and of course
42:13
Speaker 3: they are allegations, but these are the sorts of things
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Speaker 3: that we've been warned about by Mike Burgess from ASIO
42:19
Speaker 3: that foreign nations are working very hard. He pinpointed China,
42:24
Speaker 3: Russia Iran as the main three in terms of spying
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Speaker 3: in this country and co opting people.
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Speaker 2: To work on their behalf.
42:31
Speaker 3: As I said, these are allegations in this instance, but
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Speaker 3: we've been warned this is a problem in our country and.
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Speaker 4: Also an interesting window into the minutia of information that
42:40
Speaker 4: China may be seeking to gain from foreign countries. You know,
42:46
Speaker 4: it seems like an odd sort of thing that China
42:49
Speaker 4: would be allegedly interested in what some Buddhist outfit is
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Speaker 4: doing in Australia, but that probably speaks to just how
42:58
Speaker 4: interested China is in both knowing and controlling what happens
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Speaker 4: across the world.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, and they're also very interested in knowing
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Speaker 5: what Chinese citizens are doing while they're here in Australia.
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Speaker 5: That was a big thing when I was at Sydney
43:10
Speaker 5: UNI talk to a lot of Chinese international students and
43:13
Speaker 5: they're really scared to get involved in particularly political clubs
43:17
Speaker 5: on campus because they're worried about what might happen to
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Speaker 5: their friends and family back in China, which is really
43:23
Speaker 5: really sad. But moving on to the Korea mail now
43:27
Speaker 5: failure in their DNA, Queensland rape victims wait a year
43:31
Speaker 5: for results, other states take days. Rape victims are waiting
43:36
Speaker 5: at least forty times longer than in other states for
43:39
Speaker 5: a critical DNA result, with a third report into Queensland's
43:43
Speaker 5: in battled forensic lab revealing it's on the brink of collapse.
43:48
Speaker 5: The review into Forensic Signs Queensland by doctor Kirsty Wright
43:51
Speaker 5: has exposed alarming delays and contamination issues at the dirty
43:55
Speaker 5: lab responsible for processing evidence for murder, rape and sexual
43:59
Speaker 5: assault cases. The average wait for DNA result is four
44:02
Speaker 5: hundred and twelve days, compared to between five and ten
44:06
Speaker 5: days elsewhere in Australia. That is just negligent over a
44:12
Speaker 5: year to wait for the results for a rape case,
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Speaker 5: when in other states it's around a week and a
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Speaker 5: half two weeks. I just for the victims having to
44:24
Speaker 5: wait that long to receive any certainty, the delay in
44:27
Speaker 5: the courts that that must cause, the delay in justice
44:31
Speaker 5: that is just incomprehensible.
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Speaker 3: And the fact that this is the third time that
44:36
Speaker 3: the DNA lab in Queensland has been found to be
44:39
Speaker 3: at fault beggar's belief.
44:41
Speaker 4: And it's imagine being someone who is going through a case,
44:47
Speaker 4: and we know how awful and traumatic going through any
44:51
Speaker 4: court case can be if you are an alleged victim,
44:55
Speaker 4: to wait that long for an outcome is just so wrong.
45:00
Speaker 4: And if they can't fix that, I'm sorry, you can't
45:03
Speaker 4: fix anything.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty much compounding the abuse of At first you're
45:07
Speaker 3: abused by defender, then you're abused by a government bureaucracy
45:11
Speaker 3: or in this case a DNA lab that is just
45:15
Speaker 3: plain and competent.
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Speaker 1: It is just horrible.
45:17
Speaker 4: On the front of the Mercury in Tasmania's of the
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Speaker 4: Hobart Mercury, it's interesting that this is a story that
45:23
Speaker 4: makes it to the front page of a capital city newspaper.
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Speaker 1: But in a weird way, I kind of like it.
45:29
Speaker 4: Welcome Homes, a ten million dollar five story development application
45:34
Speaker 4: which includes apartment living as well as office and retail space,
45:37
Speaker 4: has been proposed for Hobart, CBD and lauded as exactly.
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Speaker 1: What this city needs. I love Tasmania. I love Hobart.
45:45
Speaker 4: I spend a bit of time there recently, and you
45:47
Speaker 4: know what, I kind of wish I lived in a
45:50
Speaker 4: city where a five story development was front page news,
45:55
Speaker 4: because it's unusual.
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Speaker 1: That sounds lovely to me.
45:58
Speaker 3: There you go, We're going to go to a break,
45:59
Speaker 3: but thick around when we come back and enterprising Queensland
46:02
Speaker 3: teenager in trouble with police for turning his BMX into
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Speaker 3: a motorbike and authority's amazed no one was killed when
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Speaker 3: an amusement park ride malfunctions will show you that in
46:13
Speaker 3: just a moment, you know, lad, at night, you're sitting
46:18
Speaker 3: around with friends and you're posing ridiculous questions. Who would
46:22
Speaker 3: win a fight between a crocodile and a shark, or
46:25
Speaker 3: between a hippo and a lion?
46:27
Speaker 2: Or what about a boat versus a whale? Will Here's
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Speaker 2: what happened.
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Speaker 4: Stay here, stay your Oh my god, they're going over
46:36
Speaker 4: oh man overboard.
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Speaker 3: Off the coast of New Jersey, a minky whale six
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Speaker 3: meters long weighing about five tons hit the boat from underneath,
47:04
Speaker 3: almost capsizing it, throwing a woman overboard.
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Speaker 2: She managed to tread water before being rescued.
47:10
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the whale was found dead on a sandbar a
47:13
Speaker 3: little later.
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Speaker 2: So boat versus whale. There you go, freh.
47:17
Speaker 5: I feel really bad for the whale. And why does
47:19
Speaker 5: that boat not have a raidar telling them to stop?
47:21
Speaker 5: There's a massive whale underneath you. Really silly. Well, speaking
47:25
Speaker 5: of other brushes with death, an amusement park ride in
47:29
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia snapped in half injuring twenty three people. Miraculously,
47:34
Speaker 5: no one died.
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Speaker 2: Just a horrific incident there.
47:47
Speaker 6: This happened in Saudi Arabia Wednesday and added a port
47:49
Speaker 6: called Green Mountain Resort.
47:53
Speaker 5: The sound of that snap that would just give you.
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Speaker 2: I will watch it. Can we watch it one more time?
48:00
Speaker 2: That again? That's amazing food. You have a look again.
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Speaker 2: I mean Brisbane? Is it next week or the week
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Speaker 2: after for the ecker? Yeah, I'm not so sure I'm
48:18
Speaker 2: going on any rides after watching that.
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Speaker 1: I've never been a rides person. It'll shock you to know.
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Speaker 4: I go to agricultural shows to see agricultural things, and
48:27
Speaker 4: I now feel very confident in having felt that way
48:30
Speaker 4: all of my life.
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Speaker 1: But how about this kid. You know, often we talk
48:33
Speaker 1: about the dope of the day.
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Speaker 4: And look, you might call this kid the dope of
48:37
Speaker 4: the day in the sense that we'll he's probably going
48:38
Speaker 4: to get caught at some point.
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Speaker 1: But I tell you what, I actually have some admiration
48:43
Speaker 1: for this.
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Speaker 4: Kid, allegedly because he allegedly was picked up by the
48:48
Speaker 4: cops with a modified BMX which he turned into more
48:52
Speaker 4: than just an e bark. He's fitted on some engines
48:55
Speaker 4: and you can see the thing there and a throttle
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Speaker 4: to control it, not pedals.
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Speaker 1: Now, a legal e byte.
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Speaker 4: Can only go twenty five k an hour and the
49:04
Speaker 4: maximum output of the engine must be two hundred and
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Speaker 4: fifty watts. Each of the engines he's fitted to this
49:10
Speaker 4: thing put out a thousand watts, which is about sixty
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Speaker 4: kilometers an hour each. I'll tell you what you thought
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Speaker 4: the amusement ride was dangerous?
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Speaker 1: Imagine that.
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Speaker 3: That's all we've got time for tonight stick around.
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Speaker 2: Coming up is the Read a Penny Show. Good Night,