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Bomani Jones on UNC Hiring Michael Malone! · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Bomani Jones is with us here on stucattson Company. Check
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  Speaker 1: out his podcast The Right Time with Bamani Jones wherever
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  Speaker 1: you get your podcast. Before we get to the championship game,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to Carolina Basketball, before we help Tailor
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  Speaker 1: out here, because he is uh well, he's all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of upset before to the idea of Mike Malone being
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  Speaker 1: the next head coach at Carolina. Bamani, are you a
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  Speaker 1: bench below the court or a bench at court level?
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  Speaker 1: Type of guy?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Which way do you like it?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I hate the elevated court.
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  Speaker 3: Same. I can't stand it.
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  Speaker 4: I can't stand it. I can't stand it. It makes
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  Speaker 4: everything look.
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  Speaker 2: Ridiculous, Like who asks for this?
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  Speaker 3: I don't like.
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  Speaker 4: I think no one's made a compelling case for me
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  Speaker 4: for the elevated court. I'm also just generally an opponent
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  Speaker 4: of basketball in domes, but I understand the capitalism is
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  Speaker 4: gonna win on that one.
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  Speaker 2: But the elevated court, I don't. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I feel like someone's gonna get hurt.
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  Speaker 3: It's dangerous, you know, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And that And that's what they don't get, is that
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  Speaker 4: just because you say nobody's gonna get hurt. Then change
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  Speaker 4: the fact that it feels that way, and that is
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  Speaker 4: not a comfortable viewing experience.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if you put a future prop that in on
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  Speaker 1: Mike Malone being the next head coach at North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: at a billion to one, congratulations to you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, bumny, what the fuck is going on here?
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand. It's not even that I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 4: Let's put a pin in the understanding part. My question
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  Speaker 4: was simply whose idea this was? Because you like, when
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  Speaker 4: you have an idea that nobody else has, chances are
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  Speaker 4: it's either the best idea or the worst idea that
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  Speaker 4: you've ever had when you're the only person who cooked
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  Speaker 4: this up. And I feel like whoever cooked this idea
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  Speaker 4: up was the only person who had this idea, right.
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  Speaker 2: But I can't say that it's a bad idea. I
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  Speaker 2: just never would have thought of that, right Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I like if I see the people
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  Speaker 4: who are down on the higher but I don't think
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  Speaker 4: they have a compelling argument for being so down on
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  Speaker 4: it other than I didn't. I never would have thought
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  Speaker 4: of this. Right now, If the argument is, well, he's
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  Speaker 4: an NBA coach and how well can an NBA coach
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  Speaker 4: do in college? Okay, maybe that's fair, but we're taking
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  Speaker 4: a guy that I believe was an excellent NBA coach,
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  Speaker 4: and his biggest problem as an NBA coach is he
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  Speaker 4: rode dudes a little bit too hard, which is something
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  Speaker 4: that you typically can get away with in college. And
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  Speaker 4: you can, on one hand make the argument that well,
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  Speaker 4: with the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 2: You can only do this with so much.
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  Speaker 4: But the counterpoint is Mike Malowe's the guy that had
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  Speaker 4: the great relationship with DeMarcus Cousins at a time where
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  Speaker 4: no coach could figure out how to make that worker.
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  Speaker 4: He seemed to be completely incorrigible. So there's a world
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  Speaker 4: in which this works out very well. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: who the staff is going to be. I do know
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  Speaker 4: that the head coach of NCAA basketball program doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: to recruit anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Like that part doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 4: So if you're asking me, can somebody go get five seven,
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  Speaker 4: eight guys and give him to Mike Malone and can
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  Speaker 4: Mike Malone make a good basketball team?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to assume that he can.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Bo money, what would you say to the people who
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  Speaker 5: are saying that everything that is a pro for Mike Malone.
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  Speaker 5: Michael Malone, Sorry, they were also saying those pros for
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  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor's one of those guys, so just say, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, yeah, this is a here's a major difference. Though.
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  Speaker 4: The last team I saw Michael Malone coach was good, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA. The last team I saw Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 4: coach in the NFL was terrible. Like, the problems with
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  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick seem to be very clearly Bill Belichick problems,
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  Speaker 4: Like I don't think it's fair to extrapolate too much there. Also,
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  Speaker 4: Michael Malone is twenty years younger than him. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that part is a small detail in the course
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 2: And Belichick's had this problem with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: And he seemed to continue this problem with the with UNC,
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  Speaker 4: which is, why do you keep getting these guys nobody
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  Speaker 4: else wants? Right, Like why do you think that you
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  Speaker 4: can make an acc team out of players from the MAC?
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand, Like, like, why are you doing that?
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  Speaker 4: And he was Basically he had a bit of a
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  Speaker 4: track record for doing the same thing with the Patriots also,
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  Speaker 4: but I have no reason to think that Mike Malone.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Malone. Michael Malone is not is no longer the.
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  Speaker 4: Coach at the of the Denver Nuggets, but not because
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  Speaker 4: he got bad at his job, right, That to.
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  Speaker 2: Me is the biggest difference between the two of those caves.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I think that's a I understand why people say that,
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  Speaker 4: but I think that's a lazy argument. Like if some
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  Speaker 4: other school had hired Michael Malone, the response would not be, well,
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  Speaker 4: look at what happened with Bill Belichick, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Right, Like, they're not the only thing they have in
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  Speaker 4: common really is that they're both at North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, uh, you know this program.
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  Speaker 1: There is not a person I know that knows North Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: the basketball program, the history of the program, what it
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  Speaker 1: means to the people in Chapel Hill better than you, Bomani.
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  Speaker 1: So I think what's going on here? This is just
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  Speaker 1: so jarring because for the first time, Carolina went outside
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  Speaker 1: the family, and that's not something people are accustomed to
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  Speaker 1: in Chapel Hill.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, guys, it's the first coaching search.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry about that, it's the first coaching search that they've
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  Speaker 4: had in seventy years, Like a legitimate I guess you
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  Speaker 4: could make an argument there when they hired Dean Smith
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  Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty one, that there was some measure of search,
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  Speaker 4: But even that, as I recall, was an internal hire.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they haven't had.
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  Speaker 4: A coaching search in seventy something years. There was literally
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  Speaker 4: no telling who would wind up getting this job because
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  Speaker 4: there seem to be no candidates available from as they
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  Speaker 4: like to say it, within the family. I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: most qualified person to hire from within the family was
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  Speaker 4: Hubert Davis.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he's been to a Final four, he's been to
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  Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: He's done not a terrible job at recruiting, like he
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  Speaker 4: was the guy that had the best resume for it.
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  Speaker 4: That Wes Miller out hoping one day that maybe he'd
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  Speaker 4: be the guy. Nope, he got fired at Cincinnati. There
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  Speaker 4: was nowhere else to go. So then once that happened,
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  Speaker 4: it was like, ooh, it could be anybody. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it would wind up being Billy Donovan's. I understand the
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  Speaker 4: argument that if you feel like you can't wait for
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  Speaker 4: Billy Donovan, I think what seems to be more likely
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  Speaker 4: is that Billy Donovant has outlasted everybody else in Chicago
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  Speaker 4: and he will get kicked upstairs and he would rather
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  Speaker 4: do that job than to coach college basketball, which I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I could totally get this.
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  Speaker 2: The other names that you would.
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  Speaker 4: Think of going to get, you could get guys that
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  Speaker 4: would be okay, but it was going to be nobody
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  Speaker 4: that would really excite you.
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  Speaker 2: But the truth is, if this job is.
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  Speaker 4: What I think it is, and I think what I
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  Speaker 4: would turn of, most reasonable people believe that it is.
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  Speaker 4: You don't need a great coach to do a very
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  Speaker 4: good job at this school.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what do you believe? Yeah, you don't know, But
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  Speaker 1: what do you believe this job to be? You still
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  Speaker 1: believe it to be one of the premier jobs.
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  Speaker 4: Right, I if they can get the money right and
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  Speaker 4: get some alignment going with the people who make decisions.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not nearly as tapped in on these things
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  Speaker 4: as I once was, but neither of those things seems.
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  Speaker 2: To truly be the case. Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, But if they can get that right, it's still
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  Speaker 4: North Carolina, Right, they still have the institutional commitment to
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  Speaker 4: being good at basketball. I don't know how much of
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  Speaker 4: the stuff that used to matter in terms of recruiting
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  Speaker 4: continues to matter now, But I don't think you have
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  Speaker 4: a compelling argument for there somehow being jobs that are
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  Speaker 4: better than this one to have, unless somebody's trying to
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  Speaker 4: make the point now that all the jobs are the same,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm not far enough down the road yet to.
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  Speaker 2: Get to that place, get to the place of saying.
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  Speaker 4: That I know that in my life and nil and
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  Speaker 4: all this has changed everything, But I know that in
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  Speaker 4: my life anytime there's been these big time programs, whether
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  Speaker 4: it be a football or basketball, with the exception of
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  Speaker 4: Indiana basketball, and they start telling you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, it's not like it used to be. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's not a big deal anymore like that. Oh man,
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  Speaker 2: us see, it doesn't matter like that. Hey hey, Ohio State,
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  Speaker 2: you really think it's gonna be the No, they all been,
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  Speaker 2: they all been the same. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But Taylor's upset because he feels like Iowa and
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  Speaker 1: Iowa State turned down this job.
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  Speaker 3: Were you surprised by the amount of people who turned
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  Speaker 3: down this job.
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  Speaker 4: Let's find out how many of them actually trying out?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, a great way to
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  Speaker 4: make yourself look good is to pull your name out
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  Speaker 4: of contention for a job that you.
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  Speaker 2: May not have, like actually had.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying this and I know that maybe somebody
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  Speaker 4: really gets charged up about working.
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  Speaker 2: In the Midwest or anything else.
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  Speaker 4: But if you say you got offered the North Carolina
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  Speaker 4: job and you stayed at Iowa, that is the definition
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  Speaker 4: of weird flex. But okay, like that, that does not
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  Speaker 4: impress me about you.
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  Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd.
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  Speaker 4: Not leaving Arizona is in line with historical precedent, Like
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  Speaker 4: Arizona is not a job that people typically leave to
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  Speaker 4: go do something better.
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  Speaker 2: That's not that there.
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  Speaker 4: I think Dan Walkin put it like this, if you
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  Speaker 4: got a top twenty job, you typically.
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  Speaker 2: Don't leave before a top five job.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, there was a time where Arizona was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Loud Olson would not have left Arizona to go to North.
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  Speaker 4: Carolina, right, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you
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  Speaker 4: would not have it. Look, it's wild to look back
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  Speaker 4: and think Arizona hasn't been to a Final four before
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  Speaker 4: this year. They hadn't been one in twenty five years.
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  Speaker 4: That was kind of a wild thing. But like you
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  Speaker 4: got a job where you could make some hey, you
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and do it. There's a pretty clear ceiling
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  Speaker 4: on how good you could be at Iowa. I think
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  Speaker 4: one would say if you would not leave that to
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  Speaker 4: go to North Carolina. I don't think that speaks to
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  Speaker 4: the job at North Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: Bo MANI, when Michael Malone takes this job, do you
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  Speaker 5: think he's taking it with the thought that he's going
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  Speaker 5: to be the North Carolina coach until he retires, or
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  Speaker 5: is he taking this job thinking best case scenario. I'm
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  Speaker 5: back at the NBA in a couple of years, my
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  Speaker 5: pick of my pick a team.
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  Speaker 4: I have questions about what teams wanted to hire him, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: whether that was an option. I know he has daughters
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  Speaker 4: who were at Carolina, which I am sure made this
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  Speaker 4: job much more attractive for him because.
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  Speaker 2: He's probably spent a lot of this year.
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  Speaker 4: You probably spend more time around him daughters than he
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  Speaker 4: has like ever before in his life, like when they
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  Speaker 4: get out of school.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's a different sort of question.
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  Speaker 4: He's just like everybody's going to see how everybody feels
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  Speaker 4: about each other when they do this job. I'd like
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  Speaker 4: if he only stays five years, which is totally on
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  Speaker 4: the board. It may be because everybody is tired of
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  Speaker 4: everybody after five years, but you might win a championship
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  Speaker 4: in the course of those five years, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like that's that's on the board.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I find it unlikely that he's just like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing this to parlay this into an NBA job.
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  Speaker 4: That would be a weird tactic if that's what he
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  Speaker 4: was going to do, because I don't think he needed
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  Speaker 4: to go coach at North Carolina in order get himself
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  Speaker 4: an NBA job.
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  Speaker 2: If an NBA job was there for him to get.
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  Speaker 1: How about if you're one of his daughters, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want dad roaming around campus?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, geez, on one level, yes, you are correct,
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  Speaker 4: I personally would not. But let me tell you somewhere,
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  Speaker 4: Michael Malone will not want to be very much, if
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  Speaker 4: at all, which is roaming around campus.
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  Speaker 2: As the head coach of the basketball team.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I can't imagine anything more stressful than if Mike
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  Speaker 4: Malone just decides to go to Lenore Hall to get
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  Speaker 4: some Chick fil A and then go hang out in
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  Speaker 4: the pit before buying souvenirs at the bookstore.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: Now, who wins the title first, Michael Malone or John Shire?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really.
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  Speaker 3: People are starting to look at Shy are funny man?
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  Speaker 3: They are they are they are.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like to predict my own misery.
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  Speaker 4: Like if there's are if there's a benevolent God, it's
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  Speaker 4: Michael Malone.
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  Speaker 2: It's like four times before john Shire ever gets one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if Michael Malone.
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  Speaker 4: What I would love about this is if somewhere in
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  Speaker 4: this Michael Malone decides he doesn't like John Shire because
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  Speaker 4: he is not the type of person to hide the
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  Speaker 4: fact that he doesn't like somebody like this, I.
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  Speaker 2: Do think that it's worth voting.
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  Speaker 4: This is the first time since Doherty, the Carolina's had
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  Speaker 4: a coach that has like he was a bit confrontational.
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  Speaker 4: Roy wasn't really confrontational. Michael Malone is can is confrontational.
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  Speaker 4: I mean like I'd love to see him really lean
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  Speaker 4: in on to beef like I feel like in the
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  Speaker 4: NBA you don't really get to just actively dislike people
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  Speaker 4: like you're allowed to do in college, Like I wipe.
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  Speaker 2: He turned that shit all the way up.
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  Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest, I was telling Taylor, who's been
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  Speaker 1: bashing the Fab five?
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  Speaker 3: I was telling him earlier today, you've been doing what?
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  Speaker 5: So I wasn't bashing the Fab five. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 5: anytime Michigan basketball is good. Here comes the Fab Five
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  Speaker 5: to kind of make it all about themselves.
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  Speaker 1: So Bamani I was explaining to him that if you
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  Speaker 1: gave a Michigan basketball fan the choice today the morning
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  Speaker 1: after Michigan won a national championship, and you said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Michigan fan, you can hang out with the Fab five
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  Speaker 1: for a day, or you can hang out with the
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  Speaker 1: five guys who won you a national championship last night,
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  Speaker 1: they would all use the Fab Five?
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  Speaker 3: Am I wrong? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I do think that they were a
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  Speaker 4: phenomenon that's kind of difficult to explain, especially now since
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  Speaker 4: the idea of like having five freshmen is it nearly
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  Speaker 4: as crazy as it seemed at the time. Though, I
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  Speaker 4: do have to say, and I say this to somebody who's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, pretty chummy with a couple of those guys,
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  Speaker 4: Taylor's not wrong every time.
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  Speaker 2: Every time it is it is Fab five time.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, Keeping in mind that two years before the
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  Speaker 4: Fab five showed up on campus, Michigan didn't just win
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  Speaker 4: a national championship.
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  Speaker 2: They won a national championship under some very.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting circumstances where their head coach was fired by the
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  Speaker 4: athletic department immediately before the tournament, and that team had
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  Speaker 4: a starting five that all played in the NBA, and
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  Speaker 4: three of them were like for real NBA players like
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  Speaker 4: Glenn Rice, Loyd Vault, and Terry Mills were like for
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  Speaker 4: real NBA guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see those dudes anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: And Glenn Rice has the greatest Remember what I did
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  Speaker 4: when we went to Alaska story that anybody's ever had.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you boys remember that one.
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  Speaker 4: No, he uh, it didn't mean nothing at the time
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  Speaker 4: when it happened, I want to say, in nineteen eighty seven,
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  Speaker 4: but when Sarah Palin became the nominee for Vice president, yes,
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  Speaker 4: we found out that she knew Glenn Rice.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, how could I forgot?
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  Speaker 2: I never did, No, I never will.
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  Speaker 1: I was, you know what, I was kind of agreeing
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  Speaker 1: with Taylor yesterday where I'm like, Hey, how come you
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  Speaker 1: don't trot out Lloyd Vaunt.
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  Speaker 3: And Rameil Robinson and have him to do a little sidecast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 4: Rameil got himself into some measure of trouble. But I
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  Speaker 4: had to say, at first I thought Taylor was just
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  Speaker 4: being you know, young and stupid. But as I gave
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit more thought I had to say
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  Speaker 4: to myself, he's not I.
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  Speaker 2: Understand the point that he's making.
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  Speaker 4: The point that I don't like that people try to
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  Speaker 4: make about the Fab five is that they never won
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  Speaker 4: their conference or the national championship.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. All they did was go to two national championship games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't win it.
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  Speaker 4: Right, if you want the Islamic jam, I never won
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  Speaker 4: a national championship. But nobody says, why do we talk
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  Speaker 4: about fat Slama.
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  Speaker 3: Jama correct for money? If you want to take it Jersey, no.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no no, no, you got that. I'll never
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: if I ever use it, I'll always give you credit. Brother,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: we we we give citation over here.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I'll give you that take. He doesn't need your help
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: with takes.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: Now, you gotta think about it. Bat I'm like the Yankees, right,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: the Yankees. The Yankees can give credit to everybody, right.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: They can retire Bernie Williams jersey, whatever it is, the
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Red Sox. You gotta be like a one to one
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer before they retire your jersey over there,
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: because they ain't put up. They just ain't put up.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: As many batners saying what I'm saying I'm gonna put
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: up a lot of badness as a result. I can
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: get I can spread the credit around.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: They were amazing, though, I mean the five freshmen going
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: to a title game.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were. I mean Jalen Rose six eight playing point.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Guard, right, Yes, yes, you're gonna have a better time
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: with those five than you would with any other five
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: who's ever played it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: You can't.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: But like the thing is, boy, you gotta watch out.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Juwan Howard be ready to fight.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Jalen and Chris got it back together apparently because I
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie, I said, left go at text. I
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: was like, it would be kind of funny if it
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: got weird for some reason, you.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean, it just got a little bit weird.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: It would be just to uh, just to kind of
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: explain to the audience just how thin the margins are
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: in terms of winning and losing. If Duke beats you, God,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: does Duke win that national championship last night against Michigan.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I don't like to think about those.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: They're not there.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: What you described is possible, but.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Putting that in the universe to me just feels wrong. Yes,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: you know, I do think this though, no and to
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: answer your questions, no, I don't think they went. I
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: think Michigan. I think Michigan was actually blowing people's doors
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: off for long enough through the course of that tournament.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: The other thing is I'm not as sold on the
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: big Boozer as other people are.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Really I.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: Felt like it was very similar to how I felt
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: about bank Caro four years ago, and it took a
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: while for me to come around and start looking a
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: little bit more correct. But I felt like ban Caro
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: had to work way too hard to get buckets against
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: Brady Mannick, and he would eventually get those buckets, but
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: it was not to me. It was not a good
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: sign that he had to work that hard to get
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: buckets against Brady Mannick. And I felt like Cameron Boozer
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: had to work a little bit too hard to get
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: some buckets and did not have nearly enough ideas on
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: how to get those buckets other than be bigger than people.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You're a kind and thoughtful man, So I'm wondering is
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: there any part of you that felt bad for Jaden
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Boozer in that spot, I mean, just.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: The small Oden booze.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: I will tell you, yes, I will tell you what
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I felt bad for him, because, you know, generally speaking
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: of course not but when he said he felt like
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: he let his brother down, I was like, damn, you've
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: lived a tough life. You weren't worried about john Shire,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: you weren't worried about the team. You were worried that
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: you let your brother down, you know what I mean?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Like the idea that you were there to serve your
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: twin brother, Like I can't imagine being the shorter twin.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: He's not even short, but he's not six'.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: TEN i can't imagine what it's like to be a
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: twin and be way shorter than your.
• 18:26
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• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Imagine but to truly feel like in that moment where
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: you gave up the booty in front Of america and
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: you just, LIKE i feel LIKE i let my brother. Down,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: man you've been putting in a position that you should
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: have never been put.
• 18:40
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• 18:40
  Speaker 4: BROTHER i felt. BAD i truly did feel bad for.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Him but before, THAT i ain't feel nothing for, him
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: nothing at.
• 18:46
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• 18:48
  Speaker 3: To Do yeah you know What i'm, Saying you're, right, yes, yes, yes,
• 18:54
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• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Right, Sorry by the, Way so it's funny BECAUSE i
• 19:00
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• 19:04
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• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Like they're just not as. COOL i, mean that's all it's.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: NOT i, mean that's a that's another one that's a
• 19:18
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• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Mike below. News they couldn't want a national championship looking
• 19:22
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• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Day, yes it's. Crazy, uh it also is crazy that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know four. HOT i guess three hours after they
• 19:30
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• 19:33
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• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Open it's, like what are we? Doing, man it's the next, season, Right.
• 19:39
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• 19:43
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• 19:43
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• 19:46
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• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Football AND i don't even know Who indiana's basketball coach.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Is let me look that up right.
• 19:53
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• 19:54
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• 20:03
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• 20:05
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• 20:22
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• 20:50
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• 21:11
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• 21:26
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• 21:30
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• 21:34
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• 21:47
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• 21:49
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• 22:11
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• 22:13
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• 22:14
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• 22:18
  Speaker 1: do you stand on On Danny? Hurley is that a
• 22:21
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• 22:22
  Speaker 3: You do you like? Him where are you With? Hurley
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: because he kind of annoys.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: ME i find him, annoying AND i like the fact
• 22:28
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• 22:30
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• 22:33
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• 22:36
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• 22:39
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• 22:41
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• 22:42
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• 22:43
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• 22:47
  Speaker 4: nah there's supposed to be some coaches out here THAT
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: i like and dislike more than. Others that's what it's
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: supposed to. Be And Danny hurley it's on full display
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: like he's a, heel you know WHAT i, Mean like
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the game needs. Heels he is a heel and seems
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: to recognize that he is a. Heel and so, yeah, no, no,
• 23:08
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• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Type but he's good for college. Basketball, yes he's great
• 23:15
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• 23:16
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• 23:17
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• 23:19
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• 23:22
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• 23:24
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• 23:26
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• 23:27
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• 23:33
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• 23:37
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• 23:40
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• 23:43
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• 23:46
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• 23:47
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• 23:50
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• 23:57
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• 23:57
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• 24:03
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• 24:08
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• 24:10
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• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It thank you for the. Time i'm upset that you
• 24:14
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• 24:15
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• 24:18
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• 24:19
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