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- 0:03Speaker 1: On the morning of September fourth, twenty nineteen, a fisherwoman
- 0:09Speaker 1: named Tammy Baker was running trot lines on the eastern
- 0:12Speaker 1: bank of the Culver River, roughly two miles south.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Of the Route nine bridge.
- 0:17Speaker 1: She found something wedged between willow roots about four feet
- 0:21Speaker 1: below the surface. It was a waterproof camping sleeve with
- 0:25Speaker 1: a black zipper seal, and it was dry. Inside seventeen
- 0:29Speaker 1: hand written pages, a photocopy of a Social Security card,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and a photograph of two girls taken in nineteen eighty nine.
- 0:37Speaker 1: The sleeve had been planted there on purpose. That single
- 0:41Speaker 1: detail changes everything about.
- 0:43Speaker 2: What this story is.
- 0:45Speaker 1: This is not a case where evidence surfaced by accident.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Someone chose that spot, chose that river, chose to preserve
- 0:53Speaker 1: exactly the right documents, and nothing more. Someone built a
- 0:57Speaker 1: record in secret and then hid it some where it
- 1:00Speaker 1: could survive. That someone was the woman the documents belonged to,
- 1:05Speaker 1: And by the time Tammy Baker pulled that sleeve out
- 1:08Speaker 1: of the Culver River, Kimberly Anne Price had already been
- 1:11Speaker 1: dismantled and rebuilt at least twice, once by her own
- 1:15Speaker 1: twin sister and once by a man who had been
- 1:18Speaker 1: inside her house years before he ever introduced himself to her.
- 1:22Speaker 1: There is something worth pausing on here. The photograph inside
- 1:26Speaker 1: the sleeve was dated on the back in Ballpoint Penn
- 1:30Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, two Girls. When investigators first saw that image,
- 1:36Speaker 1: the question was not who took the picture? The question
- 1:40Speaker 1: was which one. That question will matter more than it
- 1:44Speaker 1: seems right now. Kimberly Ann Price was born in March
- 1:47Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty one in Haddon, a small county seat
- 1:51Speaker 1: in Morrow County. She was born a twin. Her sister
- 1:54Speaker 1: Wendy came into the world minutes later, and for thirty
- 1:57Speaker 1: eight years, the two of them occupied the same family,
- 2:01Speaker 1: the same history, and, as it would eventually emerge, some
- 2:06Speaker 1: of the same paperwork. By the time she was in
- 2:08Speaker 1: her late twenties, Kimberly had built a life that was
- 2:12Speaker 1: quiet in all the ways that reflect deliberate effort rather
- 2:16Speaker 1: than accident. She had worked as an account's payable coordinator
- 2:20Speaker 1: at Hendrick's Supply for eleven years. She rented a house
- 2:23Speaker 1: on Chaldecott Street. She watered her garden every Monday and
- 2:27Speaker 1: Thursday at seven fifteen in the evening, and she weeded
- 2:31Speaker 1: every Saturday before nine in the morning. Her neighbor Pat
- 2:35Speaker 1: Novak could set a clock by it. That routine was
- 2:40Speaker 1: not anxiety, It was architecture. Kimberly had learned early that
- 2:46Speaker 1: order was something she had to construct herself, because the
- 2:49Speaker 1: people closest to her were not always reliable sources of it.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Her relationship with Wendy was what the people who knew
- 2:56Speaker 1: them called functional but careful. Their mother, Paulette had spent
- 3:00Speaker 1: two decades mediating between them. Their father, Denis had spent
- 3:04Speaker 1: those same two decades looking elsewhere. The friction between the
- 3:08Speaker 1: sisters was old enough that most people in their orbit
- 3:12Speaker 1: had stopped asking about it. It was simply the weather
- 3:15Speaker 1: between them. What no one outside the family fully understood
- 3:19Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen was that the friction had a financial history.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Wendy had been borrowing Kimberly's identity sporadically for years, not dramatically,
- 3:30Speaker 1: not in ways that immediately collapsed into crisis. A delinquent
- 3:34Speaker 1: rental account opened in Vestal in twenty twelve under Kimberly's
- 3:39Speaker 1: name at an address that matched Wendy's apartment. The handwriting
- 3:43Speaker 1: on the agreement was close to Kimberly's but not exact
- 3:46Speaker 1: the lower case letter why had the wrong loop. It
- 3:50Speaker 1: was a small thing, the kind of thing that would
- 3:53Speaker 1: take a forensic examiner to confirm, and no one was
- 3:56Speaker 1: looking for it yet. Kimberly had a brief engagement in
- 3:59Speaker 1: her late twenties that did not lead to marriage. She
- 4:02Speaker 1: had no children. She kept to herself in ways that
- 4:05Speaker 1: were social, but bounded the friends she had. She kept
- 4:09Speaker 1: with care, a woman named Diane, another named Jenny Marsh.
- 4:14Speaker 1: She did not confide easily. She trusted incrementally, and she
- 4:19Speaker 1: expected the same in return. She was, by every account,
- 4:23Speaker 1: exactly the kind of person who would notice a discrepancy
- 4:26Speaker 1: in a bank statement, exactly the kind of person who
- 4:29Speaker 1: would write it down, and exactly the kind of person
- 4:32Speaker 1: a particular type of man would study before approaching. In
- 4:37Speaker 1: spring of twenty fourteen, a man named Wayne Russo introduced
- 4:41Speaker 1: himself to Kimberly in a parking lot at a county fundraiser.
- 4:45Speaker 1: He was thirty six years old. He did home renovation work.
- 4:50Speaker 1: He seemed to have appeared out of nowhere.
- 4:53Speaker 2: He had not.
- 4:54Speaker 1: The parking lot introduction was not an accident. It had
- 4:57Speaker 1: a two year architecture behind it. In late twenty thirteen,
- 5:02Speaker 1: Russou called Doug Ferris, the Caldecott Street landlord. He did
- 5:07Speaker 1: not call about renovation work. He asked about the tenant.
- 5:11Speaker 1: He asked about the lease renewal. Ferris could not later
- 5:14Speaker 1: confirm whether he gave.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Russou a name.
- 5:17Speaker 1: What Taylor's case summary documented was simpler and more precise.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Russo's call came within three weeks of Kimberly's rental application processing.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Caldecott Street was the only property he asked about. He
- 5:31Speaker 1: had retiled that kitchen, He had replaced the back door
- 5:35Speaker 1: and its frame. He had measured every room. He already
- 5:38Speaker 1: knew the layout of the house she was about to
- 5:40Speaker 1: move into. So when he crossed that parking lot in
- 5:43Speaker 1: spring of twenty fourteen, with a handshake and a contractor's
- 5:48Speaker 1: easy confidence, Kimberly Price met a stranger. Wayne Russo had
- 5:52Speaker 1: not been a stranger for.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Over a year.
- 5:55Speaker 1: What followed looked from the outside like an ordinary courtship.
- 5:59Speaker 2: He was at ten PhOH.
- 6:00Speaker 1: He remembered things she mentioned. He called when he said
- 6:03Speaker 1: he would. By spring of twenty fifteen, he had moved
- 6:07Speaker 1: from attentive to something more specific. He began mentioning Diane
- 6:12Speaker 1: not warmly, A small observation here, a soft comparison there.
- 6:16Speaker 1: He did the same with Jenny Marsh. He retreated each time.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Kimberly pushed back so gently that the retreat itself felt
- 6:25Speaker 1: like consideration, like a man who accepted correction, like a
- 6:29Speaker 1: man who was trying. By summer of twenty sixteen, Kimberly
- 6:34Speaker 1: had stopped confiding in Diane. She had reduced contact with Jenny.
- 6:39Speaker 1: She had not been instructed to do either of those things.
- 6:42Speaker 1: She had arrived at both decisions herself, following a trail
- 6:46Speaker 1: of small suggestions she no longer remembered as suggestions. That
- 6:50Speaker 1: is the mechanism worth holding. While Kimberly's social circle contracted,
- 6:55Speaker 1: something else was moving.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Quietly in the background.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Between two thousand, six sixteen and twenty seventeen, over fourteen months,
- 7:04Speaker 1: seventy eight separate transfers left a joint account she shared
- 7:08Speaker 1: with Russo. No single transfer exceeded ninety five dollars. The
- 7:12Speaker 1: smallest was sixty. The total was eleven thousand, four hundred dollars.
- 7:18Speaker 1: The account they moved to did not appear on any statement.
- 7:21Speaker 1: She received sixty dollars ninety dollars seventy five each one
- 7:28Speaker 1: small enough to vanish inside normal spending noise. Collectively, they
- 7:32Speaker 1: were a salary. In late summer of twenty seventeen, Kimberly
- 7:38Speaker 1: went to refinance. The loan officer pulled her credit and
- 7:42Speaker 1: read her a list of items she did not recognize.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Two open credit lines, a late payment history on Hadden
- 7:50Speaker 1: utilities that had never appeared on any bill she had paid.
- 7:55Speaker 1: She went home and told Russo. He told her it
- 7:58Speaker 1: was a bank glitch. He said he would call and
- 8:02Speaker 1: get it resolved. He made the calls, He reported back
- 8:05Speaker 1: that it was handled. There is no record of what
- 8:08Speaker 1: those calls produced. What exists in the case file is simpler.
- 8:12Speaker 1: After Russo made those calls, Kimberly stopped pursuing the question.
- 8:17Speaker 1: She had handed him the threat and he had taken it.
- 8:20Speaker 1: But something shifted anyway, not all at once, not dramatical.
- 8:25Speaker 1: By spraying of twenty eighteen, Kimberly had stopped believing the
- 8:29Speaker 1: bank glitch explanation. She did not confront Russo. She did
- 8:33Speaker 1: not contact the bank again. Instead, she began writing things
- 8:37Speaker 1: down quietly in handwriting in a document.
- 8:41Speaker 2: No one else would see.
- 8:43Speaker 1: She listed dates, amounts, names, account numbers. She listed the
- 8:48Speaker 1: twenty twelve vestal delinquency she had discovered years earlier and
- 8:53Speaker 1: never fully explained. She listed the credit anomalies from the refinancing.
- 8:59Speaker 1: She listed the things Russou had said and the things
- 9:02Speaker 1: she could no longer verify. She compiled seventeen pages. She
- 9:06Speaker 1: did not send them to anyone. She did not file
- 9:09Speaker 1: a report. She placed them inside an orange waterproof camping sleeve.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Sealed the zipper, added a photocopy of her Social Security
- 9:17Speaker 1: card and a photograph from nineteen eighty nine. She walked
- 9:22Speaker 1: to the Culver River and put the sleeve among willow
- 9:25Speaker 1: roots four feet below the water line, waited with river stones.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Four days later she called the Morrow County Sheriff's Department.
- 9:35Speaker 1: The case that Taylor inherited had two perpetrators, one victim,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and a structure he had not seen organized quite this
- 9:42Speaker 1: way before. The question his summary returned to was a
- 9:46Speaker 1: sequencing problem, which came first Russou finding Kimberly or Russou
- 9:52Speaker 1: finding a woman whose twin could be used picture the
- 9:55Speaker 1: parking lot moment without the two year runway. Russeau as
- 10:00Speaker 1: an opportunist who met a woman, liked her, and then
- 10:03Speaker 1: discovered the twin, it holds together on the surface. Romance
- 10:07Speaker 1: that turns exploitative is common. Identity fraud by a partner
- 10:11Speaker 1: is documented across dozens of case patterns in four counties,
- 10:15Speaker 1: but that version cannot survive.
- 10:17Speaker 2: The phone call to.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Ferris Russo called Ferris in late twenty thirteen asking about
- 10:24Speaker 1: the tenant and lease renewal at the only property he
- 10:28Speaker 1: had renovated within three weeks of Kimberly's application. He did
- 10:33Speaker 1: not call about any other property. He did not ask
- 10:36Speaker 1: a general question. He called about one address, one tenant,
- 10:40Speaker 1: one timing window. The renovation files showed he had been
- 10:44Speaker 1: inside that house. He had the floor plan, he had
- 10:48Speaker 1: the door measurements. What the renovation files could not show,
- 10:52Speaker 1: but what the contractor permit records assembled by Sonia Marsh
- 10:55Speaker 1: did show, was a pattern. In three of the four
- 10:59Speaker 1: counties where brod complaints followed Russeau's permit activity, the fraud
- 11:04Speaker 1: appeared within eighteen months of the renovation. In two earlier cases,
- 11:08Speaker 1: the victim had a sibling, not a twin, a sibling
- 11:11Speaker 1: close enough in appearance or documentation to create confusion. He
- 11:15Speaker 1: had refined the method before he arrived in Hadden, so
- 11:19Speaker 1: the sequence runs differently. Russeau renovates Caldecott Street in twenty twelve,
- 11:25Speaker 1: he retains the floor knowledge and the least connection. In
- 11:29Speaker 1: late twenty thirteen, he calls Ferris not to follow up
- 11:33Speaker 1: on the work, but to confirm who lives there now.
- 11:36Speaker 2: He learns it is Kimberly.
- 11:38Speaker 1: Sometime between that call and spring of twenty fourteen, he
- 11:43Speaker 1: learns or confirms that Kimberly has a twin and Wendy,
- 11:47Speaker 1: who had already borrowed her sister's name for a vestal
- 11:50Speaker 1: rental account in twenty twelve, was a known quantity to
- 11:54Speaker 1: anyone who looked. The relationship Kimberly experienced as a courtship
- 11:59Speaker 1: was from rus So Sighe a delivery system, and it
- 12:02Speaker 1: had been in construction before she ever saw his face.
- 12:06Speaker 1: What makes this harder to absorb is not the fraud.
- 12:10Speaker 1: The fraud is documented, itemized, prosecutable. What is harder is
- 12:15Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen credit anomaly. The moment Kimberly handed Roussou
- 12:19Speaker 1: the threads she had found, and he took it from
- 12:22Speaker 1: her and reported it handled. She had the evidence in
- 12:25Speaker 1: her hands, she gave it to the person who had
- 12:28Speaker 1: manufactured it and for almost a year.
- 12:31Speaker 2: That was enough to stop her.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Not because she was careless, because she trusted the person
- 12:36Speaker 1: standing in front of her more than she trusted the
- 12:38Speaker 1: document she was reading. That is not a failure of intelligence.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That is what the previous two years had been designed
- 12:45Speaker 1: to produce. Kimberly did not give the sleeve to an investigator.
- 12:49Speaker 1: She gave it to a river. That detail stayed with
- 12:52Speaker 1: Ryan Taylor for years afterward. He kept a photograph of
- 12:56Speaker 1: the orange sleeve above his desk, not as a trophy,
- 13:00Speaker 1: as a reminder, in his words, of what competence looks like,
- 13:03Speaker 1: when it has nowhere else to go. A woman had
- 13:06Speaker 1: spent months building a case file in secret, handed it
- 13:09Speaker 1: to the Culver River for safe keeping, and then called
- 13:12Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Four days later.
- 13:15Speaker 1: The document was already out of reach before she made
- 13:18Speaker 1: the call. Whatever happened next, no one could take it
- 13:21Speaker 1: from her again. Taylor was assigned within forty eight hours
- 13:25Speaker 1: of Tammy Baker's discovery. On September fourth, two thousand nineteen.
- 13:30Speaker 1: The sleeve came to him, dry, legible and complete, seventeen
- 13:34Speaker 1: handwritten pages, a photocopy of Kimberly's social security card and
- 13:39Speaker 1: a nineteen eighty nine photograph of two girls who looked
- 13:43Speaker 1: nearly identical.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Kimberly's own notation on.
- 13:45Speaker 1: The back of the photograph identified which one was which.
- 13:50Speaker 1: What Taylor received was not a tip. It was a
- 13:53Speaker 1: prosecution brief assembled by the person who had been the target.
- 13:57Speaker 1: The document established the time line Kimberly had reconstructed from memory,
- 14:02Speaker 1: bank statements and her own handwritten notes compiled secretly from
- 14:07Speaker 1: spring twenty eighteen onward. It identified Wayne Russo by name
- 14:13Speaker 1: it named Wendy. It described the two thouy seventeen credit anomaly,
- 14:18Speaker 1: Russou's intervention with the bank, and the fourteen months of
- 14:21Speaker 1: incremental withdrawals she had traced through account records she had
- 14:25Speaker 1: copied before Russo could account for them. Taylor cross referenced
- 14:28Speaker 1: the sleeves timeline against bank records and contractor permit files.
- 14:33Speaker 1: The permit files had been polled by Sonia marsh, a
- 14:36Speaker 1: paralegal in the prosecutor's office who had noticed something in
- 14:39Speaker 1: the licensing database while running a routine background check. Russou
- 14:43Speaker 1: held permits across four counties over twelve years.
- 14:47Speaker 2: In three of those.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Counties, identity fraud complaints appeared within eighteen months of his
- 14:51Speaker 1: renovation activity. In two earlier cases, the victim had a sibling.
- 14:56Speaker 1: That pattern did not make it into the charges. It
- 14:58Speaker 1: was not provable the standard required, but it told Taylor
- 15:02Speaker 1: everything he needed to know about the question no document
- 15:05Speaker 1: could formally answer how many times had.
- 15:08Speaker 2: This happened before?
- 15:09Speaker 1: Kimberly The storage unit answered a version of that question.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Russo disclosed its location during plea negotiations. It sat in Ackler,
- 15:18Speaker 1: eighteen miles south of Haddan. Inside physical documents corresponding to
- 15:23Speaker 1: each woman he had defrauded, not destroyed, retained. Taylor's case
- 15:29Speaker 1: summary described the unit's contents without elaboration, but the word
- 15:33Speaker 1: he used in the later filing was organized. The Ackler
- 15:36Speaker 1: unit identified two additional victims in Graydon and Sutter Counties
- 15:41Speaker 1: who had not yet filed reports. Their cases were opened separately.
- 15:46Speaker 1: They are not part of this record. Wayne Russo entered
- 15:49Speaker 1: a negotiated confession. He was sentenced to nine years, with
- 15:54Speaker 1: parole eligibility at six. Wendy Price entered a separate plea
- 15:59Speaker 1: on tis two counts of identity fraud. She received a
- 16:02Speaker 1: suspended sentence and three years of supervised probation. Her cooperation
- 16:07Speaker 1: with Russo was documented from at least two thousand seventeen,
- 16:12Speaker 1: but the record of her earlier frauds, the twenty twelve
- 16:15Speaker 1: vestal rental account the February two thousand seventeen cell contract
- 16:21Speaker 1: established that her use of Kimberly's name predated the arrangement
- 16:25Speaker 1: with Russo by years. Neither sentencing was attended by Kimberly
- 16:29Speaker 1: Anne Price. A statement attributed to her in Taylor's case
- 16:33Speaker 1: file described where she was directing her attention.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Instead.
- 16:37Speaker 1: The phrase on record is the work of reconstruction. That
- 16:41Speaker 1: is the full quotation. Taylor did not press for elaboration,
- 16:45Speaker 1: and none appears in the file. There is a question
- 16:48Speaker 1: this case does not answer, and it is probably the
- 16:51Speaker 1: one that has been forming since the beginning. How does
- 16:54Speaker 1: a person sit across from someone for five years, someone
- 16:57Speaker 1: who has systematically dismantled her finances, her friendships, and her
- 17:02Speaker 1: sense of what is real, and not see it. The
- 17:05Speaker 1: answer is that seeing it was not the obstacle. Kimberly
- 17:09Speaker 1: did see it. She found the credit anomalies in late
- 17:12Speaker 1: summer of twenty seventeen. She held the thread. The obstacle
- 17:17Speaker 1: was that the person she handed it to was the
- 17:19Speaker 1: one who had manufactured it, and he had spent two
- 17:23Speaker 1: years making himself the most credible voice in her life.
- 17:27Speaker 1: The isolation of Diane and Jenny Marsh was not incidental.
- 17:31Speaker 1: The love bombing was not romantic enthusiasm. The incremental withdrawals,
- 17:36Speaker 1: never more than ninety five dollars, never fewer than sixty
- 17:39Speaker 1: across fourteen months, were calibrated to stay below the threshold
- 17:44Speaker 1: of what a person would stop and investigate. Every element
- 17:47Speaker 1: had a function. That is what makes this case something
- 17:51Speaker 1: other than a fraud story. The fraud was the mechanism.
- 17:55Speaker 1: The architecture was something older and more patient. What kim
- 18:00Speaker 1: Ver really built in response was the same thing turned inward.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Seventeen pages compiled in secret over more than a year.
- 18:09Speaker 1: A waterproof sleeve river stones as weight a river is vault.
- 18:14Speaker 1: She did not go to the sheriff until the document
- 18:17Speaker 1: was already beyond any one's reach. That sequence evidence, first, report,
- 18:22Speaker 1: second was not impulsive. It was the decision of someone
- 18:26Speaker 1: who had learned, at considerable cost not to hand evidence
- 18:30Speaker 1: to the person standing in front of her. Ryan Taylor
- 18:33Speaker 1: kept the photograph of that sleeve above his desk. The
- 18:36Speaker 1: sleeve is orange, the zipper is black. In the photograph,
- 18:40Speaker 1: it sits on a gray evidence table, still wet from
- 18:43Speaker 1: the river, still sealed everything Kimberly knew was inside it, waiting.
- 18:49Speaker 1: The cases in Graydon and Sutter Counties are separately documented.
- 18:53Speaker 1: The two women who had not yet filed reports were
- 18:55Speaker 1: identified from Rousseau's own storage unit. He kept records, he
- 19:00Speaker 1: organized them. That detail does not resolve. It simply sits
- 19:04Speaker 1: there in the file, waiting for someone to look at
- 19:07Speaker 1: it long enough. Kimberly Price was thirty eight years old
- 19:11Speaker 1: in the fall of two thousand nineteen. She did not
- 19:13Speaker 1: attend either sentencing. She was focused, according to the record,
- 19:18Speaker 1: on reconstruction. What that means in practice, which friendships she
- 19:22Speaker 1: tried to rebuild, What her credit looks like now. Whether
- 19:26Speaker 1: she still waters her garden on Monday and Thursday at
- 19:29Speaker 1: seven fifteen in the evening is not in any file
- 19:34Speaker 1: that part belongs to her. What the record holds is
- 19:37Speaker 1: the river. A woman who trusted no one enough to
- 19:40Speaker 1: hand them the evidence walked to the Culver River in
- 19:43Speaker 1: August and let the water keep it, and four days
- 19:46Speaker 1: later she made the call. This show is made by
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