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Mike Vrabel Press Conference Reaction + NFL Pre-Draft Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody, John middlecough three
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Speaker 1: and out podcast. Hopefully you were doing well out there
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Speaker 1: in the real world, living life, enjoying life. And we
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Speaker 1: are now a day away from the NFL Draft. Roger
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Speaker 1: Goodell up on the stage hugging dudes, us getting picks,
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Speaker 1: and I am very very excited. So I do Mike
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Speaker 1: Vrabel talk today. That's what we will start with. I'll
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Speaker 1: react to just my overall thought on his comments, and
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Speaker 1: we did a mail bag. I plan on just doing
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Speaker 1: a mail bag, but then Vrabel talked, I'm like, let's
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Speaker 1: just react to that, and then we'll just do at
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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff as the Instagram Tomorrow. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna do my top ten predictions going on for Thursday,
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Speaker 1: the first round. I will have a reaction Friday to
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Speaker 1: the first round. I will have a reaction podcast Saturday
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Speaker 1: to the second day of the draft. Probably not gonna
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Speaker 1: do anything on Saturday, and then we'll react again for
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Speaker 1: I'll record on Sunday, but it will be out on Monday.
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Speaker 1: So that's the game plan. Over the course of the
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Speaker 1: next week. I think I'm gonna record a couple times
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Speaker 1: with Colin as well, so there's gonna be a lot
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Speaker 1: an episode. Let's dive into the paths now. I was
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Speaker 1: watching this. I think weei that they put out a clip.
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Speaker 1: This was not a scheduled press conference because typically, especially
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Speaker 1: in the offseason, it's hey, these three players will talk.
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Speaker 1: The offensive coordinator talks this day, the head coach talks
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Speaker 1: this day. The only thing on the schedule were two players.
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Speaker 1: So clearly the Patriots did that on p because if
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Speaker 1: they put out within twenty four hours, Mike Vrabel will
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Speaker 1: speak tomorrow. That is a massive story in itself. The
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Speaker 1: New York Post, TMZ, you name it, Good Morning America.
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Speaker 1: People are sending reporters that would not be there normally
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Speaker 1: on the week of the draft, just like Thursday, when
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Speaker 1: Mike is going to speak. I would imagine now there
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Speaker 1: are still going to be some people like that attending
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Speaker 1: that not in a million years would attend. Classic Patriots.
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Speaker 1: A lot of these type stories over the last twenty
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Speaker 1: five years. It just is what it is. You know,
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Speaker 1: they've been to a lot of Super Bowls and they've
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Speaker 1: had a lot of controversial stories. I think Mike Vrabel,
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Speaker 1: without admitting it, admitted it today and clearly he makes
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Speaker 1: Diana and her statement look kind of stupid, which when
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Speaker 1: we all read it, it felt kind of dumb, and
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Speaker 1: then the story came out that she hired a crisis
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Speaker 1: management team looked even stupider. I think we live in
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Speaker 1: a day and age where authenticity really resonates. Maybe crisis
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Speaker 1: management with celebrities or public figures twenty years ago when
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Speaker 1: it was easier to control the message. But the Internet
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Speaker 1: is now the jury and they will convict you fast.
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Speaker 1: And let's face it, if you show those pictures to
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Speaker 1: your wife, to your fiance, to your girlfriend, get their
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Speaker 1: opinion on what they thought was happening, and then asked
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Speaker 1: them if you were in those photos with another woman,
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Speaker 1: how they would feel. We're not idiots, and Vrabel, without
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Speaker 1: saying it, essentially said I screwed up, like I had
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Speaker 1: to have tough conversations with my family. So not only
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Speaker 1: did he give oxygen to that story, he essentially said
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Speaker 1: we were caught. I had to own up to the team. Now,
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Speaker 1: I thought, and I mentioned this a couple of days ago,
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Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be obligated to say this to
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Speaker 1: his team. But by all accounts, liter all over the
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Speaker 1: facility is about being accountable to the team, right. It's
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Speaker 1: a classic Patriot way thing, the team accountability, do the
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Speaker 1: right thing on and off the field, which obviously, you know,
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Speaker 1: the hell of the Patriots last year had a lot
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Speaker 1: going on. But Mike Vrabel as the headman, as the
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Speaker 1: leader of the squad, former player, would be somewhat of
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Speaker 1: a hypocrite if he didn't acknowledge it immediately, and he
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Speaker 1: clearly did. Now I would imagine he was much more
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Speaker 1: Transparent's probably the wrong word. Like, I don't imagine him
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Speaker 1: standing up in front of the team going, yeah, we
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Speaker 1: had sex three times that day. Beautiful place, highly recommend
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Speaker 1: if you're ever in Arizona, Fire Sedona. But he was
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Speaker 1: probably much more open and honest with them than he
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Speaker 1: was with the media because he didn't come out and
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Speaker 1: say it, but he kind of did. And I do
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Speaker 1: think sometimes I mentioned this the other day, one of
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Speaker 1: the major lessons that I got as a child that
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Speaker 1: I would imagine most of you got as kids that
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Speaker 1: most of us will try to give our kids is
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Speaker 1: when you get in a lie, and it could be
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Speaker 1: the dumbest lie possible, or it could be something pretty serious.
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Speaker 1: The faster you you own up to it, the faster
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Speaker 1: we can all move on. Because when you lie about
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Speaker 1: something that no one believes, it's only gonna make it worse.
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Speaker 1: And in a situation like this that is salacious, you know,
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Speaker 1: involves football and sex, like it's it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: nightmare on the internet. And Mike Rabel, just in a
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Speaker 1: coach speak way, just said, yeah, I mean I screwed
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Speaker 1: up and I got caught because I think when you
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Speaker 1: get caught red handed that there's no way around it.
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Speaker 1: And he did that. And I don't know if this
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Speaker 1: just ends the story because she eventually will do something
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Speaker 1: on this, you would imagine, but this makes it harder
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Speaker 1: for her if she ever comes clean. It's like, well,
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Speaker 1: you put out like three different statements, right, you blame
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Speaker 1: the media. The media, doesn't I guess, listen, the football media.
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Speaker 1: I'll say all just people that talk about sports mainly
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Speaker 1: just react to stuff, right. Some people just do a
6:18
Speaker 1: lot of legacy talk or create content obviously out of
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Speaker 1: the blue, which kind of had to do in the
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Speaker 1: summer sometimes. But I would say during the season, there
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Speaker 1: aren't many narratives on a team, right, playing bad playing
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Speaker 1: good like the AJ Brown Jalen hurts was not some
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Speaker 1: created narrative from thin air that was everyone has a brain.
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Speaker 1: We're watching television. AJ Brown's doing commercial. Clearly they were
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Speaker 1: pores off. The body language is awful. He's reading a
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Speaker 1: book on the sideline, like people are just eventually going
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Speaker 1: to react to stuff. Why because they have a brain.
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Speaker 1: And that's where I think this story went. And I
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Speaker 1: think some of the statements that came out, obviously the
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Speaker 1: initial statements that clearly couldn't be corroborated because we haven't
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Speaker 1: seen any pictures or anyone come to the defensive either
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Speaker 1: of these two. Which again this isn't like no one
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Speaker 1: actually cares. I mentioned this yesterday. I don't think the
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Speaker 1: internet actually cares. I think the New York Times cares.
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Speaker 1: I think journalists care because it makes them look bad.
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Speaker 1: But I think all the people in the comments sections
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Speaker 1: are just messing around. They have real lives, they're at home,
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Speaker 1: they're keyboard warriors, they're smiling when they're sending these texts,
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Speaker 1: but the story is loud enough. And this is the
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Speaker 1: biggest league in America. He's the head coach of a
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Speaker 1: team that literally just was in the Super Bowl that
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Speaker 1: he and he did the right thing because if the
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Speaker 1: first time he talked on Thursday night after they make
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Speaker 1: a pick, that would have been a reflection to him.
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Speaker 1: And the one thing you tell about Mike like, he's
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Speaker 1: clearly pretty good with people, right, I'm talking men right.
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Speaker 1: E qes high with the team, with his coaches. Obviously
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Speaker 1: when he was a player, it just teammates loved him.
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Speaker 1: He gets it. And today was a day where it's like, Bro,
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Speaker 1: you got to put a little get the hose out
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Speaker 1: and put a little water on this fire because you
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Speaker 1: can't just hide. That's not really the way this world works.
8:09
Speaker 1: Belichick kind of could pull that off after he had
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Speaker 1: won countless Super Bowls, but even then sometimes the story
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Speaker 1: would get so out of hand, like even he would
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Speaker 1: have to face the music a little bit, And they
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Speaker 1: did it in you know, cloak and daggerway a little
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Speaker 1: bit today by having no one know that he was
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Speaker 1: going to speak. But listen, it's not like media or
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Speaker 1: excuse me, the fans care. That's something I'm sure some
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Speaker 1: of the local media would have been, like, God, I
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Speaker 1: would have gone if I would have known Vrabel was
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Speaker 1: going to be there. But this story, which I claim
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Speaker 1: I don't like, I mean, it's not bad. It's pretty
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Speaker 1: interesting because it's one of those stories I'm on some
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Speaker 1: group texts with countless people of Maria's friends, like this
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Speaker 1: is a story that women get involved, and I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: say ones that are just just dialed into every game
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Speaker 1: on Sunday more on the ticket, right, these are people.
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Speaker 1: This is a story that kind of transcends sports, and
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Speaker 1: I would say, now it comes I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say to a screeching halt, but it we definitely could
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Speaker 1: just move past it, and vable could just kind of
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Speaker 1: keep it moving a little bit too. Let's dive into
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9:24
Speaker 1: on the show. I know you may have a partial
9:27
Speaker 1: bias with this question, but with a growing number of
9:30
Speaker 1: banking and corporate jobs requiring workers to return to office
9:36
Speaker 1: four to five times a week and moving away from
9:39
Speaker 1: remote and hybrid models, I wanted to get your opinion
9:42
Speaker 1: on the debate between an in office versus remote work. Obviously,
9:47
Speaker 1: I'm glad to still have a very stable job, but
9:50
Speaker 1: given my department as jumped from one day to four
9:53
Speaker 1: days a week in office, it has me missing the
9:56
Speaker 1: flexibility bonus question. Would you take a job double the pay,
10:01
Speaker 1: extra bennies, more vacation time if it meant you had
10:04
Speaker 1: to work five days a week in the office or
10:06
Speaker 1: half pay with no extra perks, and work fully remote
10:10
Speaker 1: from home. I think there are a lot of layers
10:15
Speaker 1: to this. I obviously don't have your prototypical corporate job,
10:21
Speaker 1: so you know, I've never worked in a financial institution,
10:25
Speaker 1: and by all accounts, you know you pull up the
10:27
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal or you're listening finance pods these banks,
10:30
Speaker 1: and everyone's pulling people back to work. I would say,
10:33
Speaker 1: big picture one advice I would give to any young person.
10:37
Speaker 1: Your relationships that you form through college through early on
10:41
Speaker 1: professionally really help. I would say, guide you as you
10:46
Speaker 1: get older. And we had a big meeting this morning
10:52
Speaker 1: on Zoom. There is a big power in Zoom, right,
10:55
Speaker 1: I mean I do a during the off season. We'll
10:58
Speaker 1: have guys come on an interview where I'm at John
11:00
Speaker 1: Schneider was through a Zoom interview, so like Zoom, I
11:04
Speaker 1: record podcasts on Zoom like I am pro Zoom. But
11:07
Speaker 1: there is a power of being in person, right, and
11:12
Speaker 1: especially for younger people, getting around people in your field,
11:17
Speaker 1: developing relationships with those people as you all go different ways.
11:21
Speaker 1: I think the stat of people changing jobs you know,
11:25
Speaker 1: in their twenties has like quadrupled relatively like thirty years ago.
11:29
Speaker 1: We're more, you know, nomadic professionally, It's easier to jump around.
11:33
Speaker 1: There's obviously more ways to find out about jobs with technology.
11:37
Speaker 1: We just live in different times. But the people that
11:42
Speaker 1: you meet in your early professional career, that could be
11:45
Speaker 1: your twenties and your thirties, but definitely early on when
11:49
Speaker 1: you are not high on the totem pole, I think
11:52
Speaker 1: you look back and go those people help shape your
11:56
Speaker 1: professional lives. And then I think there's a factor of
11:59
Speaker 1: people you work for, Mentors teach you the ropes, help
12:03
Speaker 1: allow you to be good at your job. Now, there
12:07
Speaker 1: are some jobs. I'm essentially in sales right. I have
12:13
Speaker 1: not had a W two job beside the one my
12:16
Speaker 1: LLC pays myself for almost ten years, and there is
12:21
Speaker 1: no guarantee, Like, I'm like a sales guy. I if
12:25
Speaker 1: I want to eat, I better kill something. And if
12:28
Speaker 1: you're a sales guy, and listen, a lot of my
12:30
Speaker 1: friends that are in their late thirties or early forties
12:33
Speaker 1: are in sales. They're not in the office that often
12:36
Speaker 1: besides serious meetings. Why because it doesn't necessarily matter. They
12:40
Speaker 1: are judged on the numbers they produce. And I would
12:43
Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people listening to this if you're
12:44
Speaker 1: in sales, Like, as long as you're pulling your weight
12:47
Speaker 1: and you have the best job in terms to quantify
12:50
Speaker 1: your impact, no one gives a shit, right, But there
12:54
Speaker 1: are certain jobs, like I knew a lot of people
12:56
Speaker 1: in the tech world when I lived in the Bay Area,
12:59
Speaker 1: like friends of friends that had elite jobs at the Facebooks,
13:04
Speaker 1: the Oracles, the Apples, like all the big, big tech
13:09
Speaker 1: companies in Silicon Valley. And for years I remember hearing
13:13
Speaker 1: the story about this girl that worked in HR and
13:15
Speaker 1: making like five hundred ger that was at the country
13:18
Speaker 1: club like six days a week at like noon. I
13:21
Speaker 1: was like, this is not a sustainable model, because as
13:25
Speaker 1: we're always going to EBB and flow, right, economy is
13:27
Speaker 1: doing well the economy is struggling a sector. Look at
13:31
Speaker 1: AI impacts technology. They start getting rid of people. You
13:34
Speaker 1: need people to fight for you. And you know, in
13:37
Speaker 1: my radio career, the one thing I've always said, I
13:40
Speaker 1: wasn't that good forming relationships with other people just because
13:43
Speaker 1: I was tunnel vision. And that's something that I have
13:46
Speaker 1: done the last seven eight years in my business that
13:48
Speaker 1: I take very very seriously because I do care about
13:53
Speaker 1: people I'm working with or working around and are helping
13:56
Speaker 1: me out, and I want to show that. And it's
13:58
Speaker 1: not that matters. And when times get bad, people fight
14:04
Speaker 1: for other people that they know well. And some of
14:08
Speaker 1: your jobs, if it's not just quantifiable because you're not
14:11
Speaker 1: in a specific sales role where it's like, hey, he
14:13
Speaker 1: brings this X number of business, they get rid of
14:17
Speaker 1: a quick So I'm in agreement. You can get a
14:20
Speaker 1: lot of stuff done at home. And I here's the
14:24
Speaker 1: other thing I've moved around, right, so like, if you
14:27
Speaker 1: don't like your job, leave When I lived in the
14:31
Speaker 1: Bay Area, I used to for the couple of years
14:35
Speaker 1: that I had the radio show downtown San Francisco. I
14:38
Speaker 1: would drive to MacArthur bart which isn't exactly Beverly Hills,
14:43
Speaker 1: I would park my car in probably I don't know,
14:48
Speaker 1: thousand yards away, like pretty deep, maybe even far that.
14:51
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound that far when you say
14:54
Speaker 1: it out loud. But depending on when I got there
14:56
Speaker 1: between like six thirty and seven am. My show started
14:58
Speaker 1: at ten I try. I had to get there around
15:00
Speaker 1: seven fifteen and I'd bar in and it sucked right commuting.
15:07
Speaker 1: Like I'm not a city guy really, but like if
15:11
Speaker 1: you want to live in San Francisco, if you want
15:13
Speaker 1: to live in Chicago, if you want to live in
15:14
Speaker 1: New York City, unless you can afford living in the
15:18
Speaker 1: city or be in a place in the city that
15:21
Speaker 1: you're comfortable living it because you could live in a
15:23
Speaker 1: crappy area, but if you want to live in a
15:25
Speaker 1: nicer area, it's going to be outrageously expensive. You're probably
15:28
Speaker 1: gonna live a little farther away, which means you're gonna
15:30
Speaker 1: have a crazy commute Los Angeles. It might not be
15:33
Speaker 1: for everybody, and I also think going through that a
15:37
Speaker 1: little bit, especially when you're young. I can only speak
15:40
Speaker 1: for guys like I. I didn't need much. I've lived
15:45
Speaker 1: in shitty apartments, I've eaten Chipotle, seven nights a week
15:49
Speaker 1: back when Chipotle was actually pretty cheap, Like you can
15:52
Speaker 1: kind of get through it. And I think you look
15:55
Speaker 1: back as you get older, because there are things now
15:57
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do right there. I couldn't ever commute like
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Speaker 1: that anymore, but I have like I've done it. I
16:04
Speaker 1: know what it's like, and it's like that's not for me,
16:07
Speaker 1: but I did go through it, and I think that
16:09
Speaker 1: helped shape me as time went on. So depending on
16:12
Speaker 1: your age, like if you're forty five and you're like
16:16
Speaker 1: this sucks, then yeah, go start putting feelers out, start
16:20
Speaker 1: trying to see what else you can do, start your
16:22
Speaker 1: own gig. But if you're young, I do think there
16:25
Speaker 1: is a direct impact of future success of the people
16:30
Speaker 1: you meet professionally early on in your career. And I
16:34
Speaker 1: take it you're probably you say, a corporate finance job,
16:37
Speaker 1: probably at a decent company. It could change your life
16:40
Speaker 1: when you're my age. So you sometimes got to think
16:43
Speaker 1: big picture that way, because there is a huge value
16:45
Speaker 1: of the human the human interaction. And at one point
16:50
Speaker 1: in time we thought like, oh this is dad. Business,
16:53
Speaker 1: travel's done, everything's going to be zoom. Clearly, by all
16:57
Speaker 1: accounts that is not the case now, and as someone
17:00
Speaker 1: who's done both, I think there's a huge value. I mean,
17:03
Speaker 1: last year when I went to the Ryder Cup, we
17:05
Speaker 1: went to lock up a big zone pouches deal. I've
17:08
Speaker 1: been using them ever since. No free ads, but I
17:12
Speaker 1: do believe that that deal and a huge reason for
17:16
Speaker 1: it to happened. We went and had a party and
17:17
Speaker 1: hung out with the people all night long. I got
17:20
Speaker 1: on a plane to go to New York City and
17:21
Speaker 1: they took us to the Ryder Cup the next day,
17:23
Speaker 1: and it was really cool. And obviously a lot of
17:25
Speaker 1: you do that, but and I'm as guilty as anybody.
17:28
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, hey, I can just have this guy
17:30
Speaker 1: on Zoom. Hey, in a couple of weeks I get
17:33
Speaker 1: spy tech on Zoom. Would I be better off even
17:36
Speaker 1: if I didn't get a flight, just taking the four
17:38
Speaker 1: and a half hour drive, just driving up to Vegas,
17:39
Speaker 1: sitting down with them. Wouldn't that be probably better content?
17:42
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it help forge a better relationship with a guy
17:45
Speaker 1: I know kind of well? But even make it better?
17:49
Speaker 1: And the answer is one hundred percent yes, Because there
17:51
Speaker 1: is nothing like a professional in person interaction to especially
17:57
Speaker 1: someone that you want to interact with. Not everyone is,
18:00
Speaker 1: and some of these relationships are going to be meaningless.
18:02
Speaker 1: But I do think it's important when you're young, and
18:06
Speaker 1: I wouldn't try to avoid that because as you get
18:08
Speaker 1: older and as technology changes, you probably will avoid it
18:11
Speaker 1: as you get older, and who knows, you know the
18:13
Speaker 1: way society will work in ten twenty years, but you
18:16
Speaker 1: still are going to rely on other people until the
18:19
Speaker 1: robots take over. That would be my personal advice. And
18:24
Speaker 1: for you sales guys, just keep, you know, keep beating
18:28
Speaker 1: the bushes. You're probably not in office as much as
18:30
Speaker 1: anybody else. But also if you don't sell, you don't
18:33
Speaker 1: get paid, and you don't probably have a job, which
18:35
Speaker 1: I appreciate, I admire. That's the podcast business. You know.
18:39
Speaker 1: It's just like we This exists in my relation. I
18:42
Speaker 1: say this all the time. My relationship with Colin and
18:44
Speaker 1: the volume and everything is good and I art because
18:47
Speaker 1: we produce. If we didn't, I wouldn't be here. You know,
18:52
Speaker 1: I can remove the emotion and why this relationship works.
18:56
Speaker 1: This isn't just because But if things ever did get
19:01
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. Uh. What do you think
20:59
Speaker 1: about multiple players that can wear the green dot? Obviously
21:03
Speaker 1: you only get one, but do you think styles and
21:06
Speaker 1: downs would be a good first round for the Giants?
21:10
Speaker 1: I think they would sign up for that right now.
21:13
Speaker 1: I think you can't have multiple players communicating with the coaches.
21:18
Speaker 1: So there's a reason only the quarterback can and only
21:20
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker can, because you couldn't have the safety,
21:23
Speaker 1: the linebacker, maybe your star defensive player. It'd be like
21:26
Speaker 1: your wide receiver. And then then to me, the coaches,
21:30
Speaker 1: who already have a outsize impact on the sport because
21:35
Speaker 1: of the nature of football, I think we start getting
21:40
Speaker 1: to slippery slope. I've been on a lot of practices.
21:44
Speaker 1: I remember being really young at an Andy Reid practice
21:48
Speaker 1: and one Castillo and some other coaches would like, run
21:50
Speaker 1: in the huddle every play, and Andy kind of snapped,
21:53
Speaker 1: He's like, stay out. That's not football. You can't go
21:58
Speaker 1: into the huddle every single you know, in a game,
22:01
Speaker 1: we're all on the sideline. So you kind of gotta
22:04
Speaker 1: let them figure it out. Like eventually when Jack gets
22:07
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, I'm there are gonna be times
22:10
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it now, but it's kind of gotta
22:12
Speaker 1: let him figure it out. Sometimes you gotta let him
22:14
Speaker 1: burn his finger. Sometimes you gotta let him bump into something.
22:17
Speaker 1: You can't hold his hand all through life, just like
22:20
Speaker 1: you can't hold a football player's hand all through the game.
22:23
Speaker 1: What do coaches often say, need you to make a play?
22:26
Speaker 1: I can't make the play. I need you to make
22:28
Speaker 1: the play. And sometimes having instincts like Travis Kelsey getting
22:33
Speaker 1: open against zone coverage is not because Andy Reid's in
22:36
Speaker 1: the green dot telling him, Hey, this guy's gonna go
22:38
Speaker 1: a little right, you go left. It's just he's an
22:40
Speaker 1: instinctive player. So if I was a good player, I
22:43
Speaker 1: wouldn't want that my son plays high school baseball, is
22:46
Speaker 1: very serious about playing in college after next year. He's
22:49
Speaker 1: having a good junior year. But last night, in an
22:52
Speaker 1: important rivalry road game, he struck out with a chance
22:55
Speaker 1: to take the lead, then gave up a walk off
22:57
Speaker 1: single pitching in the bottom of the inning. As I
23:00
Speaker 1: watched the other team dance on the field, it occurred
23:02
Speaker 1: to me that we don't really talk about how much
23:04
Speaker 1: losing absolutely sucks. My son is already looking forward to
23:09
Speaker 1: the next matchup, but it does remind me that those
23:11
Speaker 1: of us who transcended out of failures come out better
23:15
Speaker 1: in the long run. Like you, I've been fired from
23:17
Speaker 1: a job and it ended up being the best thing
23:19
Speaker 1: that ever happened. The last three quarterbacks it is like
23:22
Speaker 1: a Colin Coward DM he just like woo, you know,
23:26
Speaker 1: weaved it right into Sam Darnold, the last three quarterbacks
23:29
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Donald fifteen Herts benched in college,
23:32
Speaker 1: Mahomes Texas Tech slipped in the draft. Not to mention Brady,
23:36
Speaker 1: these guys have had to overcome some shit. Meanwhile, you
23:39
Speaker 1: have other players who are always on good teams. Lawrence
23:41
Speaker 1: McCarthy or played for their dad Sanders with the draft
23:45
Speaker 1: coming up, is that something teams will look at. Well,
23:48
Speaker 1: like Sonny Styles and Caleb Downs. They lived a pretty
23:52
Speaker 1: good life. They've had a lot of success, but this
23:55
Speaker 1: year that they lost some big games. Last I checked,
23:58
Speaker 1: lost the championship game to Indiana and lost a big
24:01
Speaker 1: game to Miami. Right, you look at Jeremiah Love lost
24:06
Speaker 1: some big games early, which derailed their season because they
24:09
Speaker 1: didn't get into college football playoffs. So failure in college
24:13
Speaker 1: when you're at a good program is all relative. What
24:17
Speaker 1: Texas had a down year. It went nine to three.
24:20
Speaker 1: You know, It's like in the NFL, you could have
24:23
Speaker 1: a good season and be a legitimate Super Bowl threat
24:27
Speaker 1: and go eleven and six, so or ten and seven.
24:32
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago the Chiefs won the Super Bowl.
24:33
Speaker 1: They went eleven and six. You are going to lose
24:38
Speaker 1: a lot of games and in the pros because I'm like,
24:42
Speaker 1: you know, college football for Ohio State is a good
24:44
Speaker 1: example with Caleb Caleb Downs, rvel Reevees, and and who
24:51
Speaker 1: I'm at Carnal Tate. Right, they got three guys. I'm
24:56
Speaker 1: missing one other guy. Didn't they have one other defensive player,
25:00
Speaker 1: Sunny Styles, So they got Sunny Styles Reese, Downs, Tate.
25:03
Speaker 1: I mean, you got four guys that go in the
25:05
Speaker 1: top fifteen, right top twenty. This is their team is
25:09
Speaker 1: incredibly talented. Uh, it's gonna be some of those guys,
25:14
Speaker 1: like one of them might end up on the Miami
25:16
Speaker 1: Dolphins and all Minka Fitzpatrick. I bet if we googled
25:20
Speaker 1: his record at Alabama didn't lose many games.
25:23
Speaker 2: Well.
25:23
Speaker 1: Last year he played on the Dolphins. This year he's
25:26
Speaker 1: now on the Uh, he's on the Jets. You know,
25:30
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't think he's winning that much. It's
25:33
Speaker 1: gonna be its adversity and the other thing in Ohio State.
25:36
Speaker 1: The example I was trying to make is how many
25:39
Speaker 1: guys this year for Caleb Downs and Reese and Sonny
25:44
Speaker 1: Styles that they looked at the other team and they
25:47
Speaker 1: went like, this guy, if I'm in a one on
25:49
Speaker 1: one matchup is better than me. They might go weeks
25:54
Speaker 1: without It's obviously the coaches and the meetings and practice
25:57
Speaker 1: are making it going. Doing the Belichick thing, you know
25:59
Speaker 1: when he play like the one and eleven Dolphins, like
26:01
Speaker 1: their special teams is the greatest group of special teams
26:04
Speaker 1: players I've ever seen. He's got to say that because
26:06
Speaker 1: he's got to manipulate something for his own team. They're
26:09
Speaker 1: not dumb. They're gonna watch the tape in the Pros.
26:12
Speaker 1: Even when you're playing bad teams like the Vikings last
26:15
Speaker 1: year were four and eight. But if you're a starting
26:17
Speaker 1: corner and you're playing the Vikings, they're four and eight.
26:19
Speaker 1: Like Justin Jefferson and Jordan Maddison are walking through those doors. Right.
26:23
Speaker 1: If you're a right tackle and you're playing the shitty
26:25
Speaker 1: Raiders team last year and it's Week ten, Max Crosby's
26:29
Speaker 1: coming across from you fifty times a game, the Pros
26:33
Speaker 1: is really really This is my thing with Travis Hunter.
26:35
Speaker 1: It's like, you gotta pick a position because even Deon Sanders,
26:42
Speaker 1: who's probably one of the greatest athletes of all time,
26:46
Speaker 1: still had to focus on dB because it's that hard
26:49
Speaker 1: because it's the Pros every single day. This was the
26:52
Speaker 1: knock a wide receiver coach told me, I've told the
26:54
Speaker 1: story a million times about Marvin Harrison. He's like, his
26:57
Speaker 1: personality makes me nervous. He liked the league neighbors whole
27:00
Speaker 1: lot more than Marvin Harrison, and he's like, I just
27:02
Speaker 1: don't like his kind of relaxed reserve personality in a
27:09
Speaker 1: league where every single week you could be going up
27:12
Speaker 1: against a guy making twenty to thirty million, living in
27:15
Speaker 1: a mansion with three range rovers, been to four Pro bowlers,
27:18
Speaker 1: and two kids. And that's the guy's livelihood. And he's
27:22
Speaker 1: coming for your ass every single play, and if it's
27:26
Speaker 1: a press corner, he can't wait. And there's a mentality
27:30
Speaker 1: that I think failure, like some guys Texas Tech or
27:35
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Wyoming. Sometimes you just playing a crappy
27:37
Speaker 1: team in your big time prospect but it's not anyone's fun.
27:42
Speaker 1: If you go to Alabama, like, you're a really talented player,
27:45
Speaker 1: but what was the adversity likes you kind of got
27:47
Speaker 1: a nitpick. When you get to the pros, adversity is inevitable.
27:50
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes is like one of the greatest
27:52
Speaker 1: players of all time. He just tours acl and who's
27:55
Speaker 1: had an awful season. It happens, and there's no avoiding it.
27:59
Speaker 1: Like us in life, there is no avoiding us in
28:02
Speaker 1: life having problems. Sometimes problems are bigger than others. Sometimes
28:06
Speaker 1: a problem could be a flat tire on a way
28:08
Speaker 1: to a meeting, not the end of the world, but
28:10
Speaker 1: a problem. Sometimes it's our mom and dad are very
28:15
Speaker 1: sick or die, or our company goes bankrupt. We get
28:20
Speaker 1: fired that We all deal with that in life. When
28:23
Speaker 1: you're a young player coming from the top programs, like
28:26
Speaker 1: your adversity is kind of all relative unless you've had
28:29
Speaker 1: a major injury, and now with the transfer portal, you
28:34
Speaker 1: start having some issues like I'm out see you. So
28:41
Speaker 1: I think if your son goes on to be a
28:43
Speaker 1: good baseball player, I'm rooting for him. That moment of
28:46
Speaker 1: striking out and giving up the single and watching those
28:49
Speaker 1: guys should motivate them. Baseball's a little random too, Like
28:54
Speaker 1: I mean, Barry Bonds and Alexariez struck out a lot
28:56
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Question for the bat seems strange to
29:01
Speaker 1: me that the availability of film scouts are assigned based
29:04
Speaker 1: on location, not position. Maybe I'm wrong, but have a
29:07
Speaker 1: hard time believing that there aren't scouts better equipped to
29:11
Speaker 1: evaluate linemen and other scouts better equipped to evaluate receivers, dbs, etc.
29:16
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are reasons why it's not done like this,
29:19
Speaker 1: but could this be a way the teams to get
29:22
Speaker 1: an edge on opponents in scouting? If I live in Scottsdale, Arizona,
29:28
Speaker 1: and I'm doing the West coast for the Dallas Cowboys.
29:32
Speaker 1: They need someone to gather the off the field information
29:36
Speaker 1: from Arizona State up to Washington, cal Oregon, Stanford UCLA. Right,
29:42
Speaker 1: that's my job UNLV is to get that information as
29:47
Speaker 1: much as it is the player. Even though I'm evaluating
29:49
Speaker 1: all those players during the off season. So when the
29:52
Speaker 1: season ends and you start going to the senior ball,
29:55
Speaker 1: through the Combine, through the Pro days, you start assigning
29:58
Speaker 1: cross checks. So if you have a guy who is
30:02
Speaker 1: your best offensive line evaluator, that guy will crosscheck the
30:07
Speaker 1: entire top four or five rounds of offensive lineman. If
30:13
Speaker 1: you have a guy who's excellent wide receivers, maybe he's
30:16
Speaker 1: I think I saw Rod Streeter, the former Raider wide
30:18
Speaker 1: receiver is the Eagles. I think he might be their
30:20
Speaker 1: West Coast scout or maybe their South scout. He's a scout,
30:23
Speaker 1: I would imagine how he has Rod Streeter crosscheck wide receivers.
30:30
Speaker 1: So you do that naturally, and then you have your
30:33
Speaker 1: scouting directors and everything goal over the top of everybody.
30:37
Speaker 1: Typically there's not a guy drafted in the top four
30:41
Speaker 1: or five rounds most teams don't have if you include
30:45
Speaker 1: the coaches. Like if I get a guard, a second
30:48
Speaker 1: round guard, let's just let's just pick a second round guard.
30:51
Speaker 1: Let's even pick the Penn State guard right, who I
30:53
Speaker 1: thinks could go like top fifteen. Most teams probably have
30:58
Speaker 1: seven eight grades on him. The area scout, the crosschecker,
31:03
Speaker 1: the college director, the assistant GM, the GM, the aligned coach,
31:07
Speaker 1: the coordinator, and potentially the head coach. And let's even
31:11
Speaker 1: go to like the third round, a wide receiver. You
31:13
Speaker 1: would have the cross checker, the area guy, the college director,
31:18
Speaker 1: the GM probably definitely got eyes on him, the wide
31:20
Speaker 1: receiver coach, and the coordinator, and then if he was light,
31:24
Speaker 1: the GM and the head coach might watch him a
31:27
Speaker 1: little more closely. But most of the gms are watching
31:29
Speaker 1: all these guys, but the head coach would get involved
31:31
Speaker 1: when we like a guy. So you're gonna have five
31:36
Speaker 1: to eight grades on every single guy even when these
31:40
Speaker 1: videos come out from the team, right. The Colts have
31:44
Speaker 1: done a good job of this for years of really
31:46
Speaker 1: kind of incorporating their area scouts in like their off
31:52
Speaker 1: season videos. I remember watching a couple of years ago.
31:55
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not doing it now because they've been shitty,
31:57
Speaker 1: but it was excellent content. They interviewed those guys, they
32:01
Speaker 1: followed them around. Those guys are just like your first
32:05
Speaker 1: line of defense, but you got reinforcements as a front office,
32:09
Speaker 1: a ton of grades on guys, and the higher you're
32:12
Speaker 1: valued in a draft, like if you're a top seventy
32:15
Speaker 1: five player, a lot of eyeballs washing. You imagine if
32:20
Speaker 1: the NFL randomized divisions, like every four years, you create
32:23
Speaker 1: new rivalries. Who wouldn't want to see Mahomes battle Caleb
32:26
Speaker 1: twice a year or Perty versus Allen week eighteen fighting
32:29
Speaker 1: to win the division. The league goes through stagnant phases,
32:32
Speaker 1: like when the Chiefs constantly look like a rerun beating
32:35
Speaker 1: the same teams every year for the division. Seeing May
32:37
Speaker 1: face off with Bryce Young once every four years is
32:41
Speaker 1: kind of a missed opportunity in my opinion, just a thought.
32:45
Speaker 1: I think one thing the NFL does a good job
32:47
Speaker 1: of is they have these rivalries that have resonated for
32:52
Speaker 1: a long time, right Bears, Packers, Cowboys, Eagles, the Patriots, Dolphins, Bills.
33:03
Speaker 1: Kind of that those NFC East teams obviously, you know
33:06
Speaker 1: the Giants, Eagles, Giants, Cowboys, the Ravens and Steelers now
33:10
Speaker 1: have been playing. It feels like important football for decades.
33:15
Speaker 1: Niners in Seattle has kind of been created with the
33:17
Speaker 1: hardball that's going on fifteen plus years. You know, the
33:21
Speaker 1: Rams coming back to LA with McVeigh has really created that.
33:25
Speaker 1: I think divisions in football matter a lot. You know,
33:28
Speaker 1: in basketball, most casual fans couldn't tell you the divisions,
33:32
Speaker 1: right They it doesn't matter because you're it's more about
33:35
Speaker 1: the conference. Where I think in the NFL the divisions matter.
33:40
Speaker 1: Like when the Raiders were good, playing the Broncos and
33:42
Speaker 1: the Chiefs felt like a really big deal when I
33:45
Speaker 1: was a kid, John Gruden on Monday Night Football, it's
33:47
Speaker 1: like when the Broncos play the Chiefs. So I hear
33:50
Speaker 1: what you're saying, But you also, football is weird, Like
33:55
Speaker 1: I don't think you can just create something overnight, and
33:58
Speaker 1: I think you naturally those four years, like when Mahomes
34:05
Speaker 1: plays Caleb Williams, it feels big for the one off
34:08
Speaker 1: that year. I actually think the NFL does a pretty
34:12
Speaker 1: good job on their schedule of the rivalries. The top
34:17
Speaker 1: teams like the Bills and the Chiefs played each other,
34:19
Speaker 1: like five years straight in the regular season. They started
34:22
Speaker 1: playing the Ravens and the Bills constantly in the regular season,
34:25
Speaker 1: and you create rivalries that way. Like part of Manning
34:29
Speaker 1: Brady rivalry wasn't just because they played it in the playoffs.
34:32
Speaker 1: It was because they were both winning their division, and
34:36
Speaker 1: the league with strengths of schedule, made sure they always played,
34:39
Speaker 1: so they can manipulate it a little bit that way.
34:41
Speaker 1: I think they do a good job on that. Who
34:44
Speaker 1: do you think is more success as an OC this year,
34:47
Speaker 1: David Blough or Sean Mannon. They're pretty similar, super young
34:52
Speaker 1: X backup quarterback, practice squad guys, both in the NFC East.
34:55
Speaker 1: Blow works for the Commanders, Manning for the Eagles. It's
35:00
Speaker 1: a good question. There's no disputing and we'll see. You know,
35:04
Speaker 1: a J. Brown, he's not gonna be on the team,
35:07
Speaker 1: but he's still got Hollywood Wix to go with Devonte Smith,
35:10
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley. Maybe they draft a guy in the first
35:14
Speaker 1: couple of rounds wide receiver, tight end. Uh, they are
35:19
Speaker 1: more equipped. I think they are clearly more equipped than
35:25
Speaker 1: that team has some question marks, like deebo I'm pretty
35:28
Speaker 1: sure it's still onside he's opened a bar here in Scottsdale.
35:31
Speaker 1: Like he was actually pretty productive for them, you know,
35:34
Speaker 1: so zach Ertz been pretty productive tours was the Achilles
35:39
Speaker 1: racl I think Commanders have a lot of question marks.
35:43
Speaker 1: Quarterback is very talented, a lot to work with. If
35:46
Speaker 1: you put Jade Daniels on that Eagles roster, I'd be like,
35:49
Speaker 1: this thing is gonna be fireworks. It the Eagles job
35:54
Speaker 1: has more talent, is just a more difficult job. It's
35:58
Speaker 1: just gonna be one of the national store with hurts.
36:01
Speaker 1: But if you can just get the run game humming,
36:05
Speaker 1: it could buy you some time. Now. If you tell
36:06
Speaker 1: me Jeremiah Love is on the Commanders, that's an interesting gig.
36:11
Speaker 1: So I would say, if I was betting, I would
36:14
Speaker 1: just bet on the team with more talent. Be Sean Mannion.
36:18
Speaker 1: My wife and I are both physicians cardiology and uh pullmanology.
36:23
Speaker 1: You guys are smart people, Did I say pullmanology?
36:26
Speaker 2: Correct?
36:26
Speaker 1: From Florida, looking to make a move out west to
36:30
Speaker 1: be closer to my wife's family where our mid thirties
36:33
Speaker 1: and have looked at most states west of Colorado. We
36:36
Speaker 1: talked with a few practice we really like in Arizona,
36:39
Speaker 1: especially Tucson, but her family is all in Cali. Have
36:43
Speaker 1: you and Maria found it difficult to raise your son
36:46
Speaker 1: in Arizona away from the rest of your family. Is
36:49
Speaker 1: California quote close enough? If family is willing to make
36:53
Speaker 1: trips once in a while to help, you're definitely at
36:56
Speaker 1: a disadvantage. It makes life a little bit harder. My
37:00
Speaker 1: brother lives extremely close to my mother, and his wife's
37:04
Speaker 1: parents are twenty minutes away. It's a big, big advantage.
37:09
Speaker 1: Now she has been off from she hasn't worked, so
37:13
Speaker 1: she has been full time daycare. If she had, like
37:17
Speaker 1: you guys, like had to be back to work, you know,
37:20
Speaker 1: with more of a job, that's like, okay, attorney leaves over,
37:24
Speaker 1: you're on the clock here. We got some surgeries. It
37:28
Speaker 1: would be a more stressful situation, but I am not
37:32
Speaker 1: alone with people listening. Sometimes you move to an area
37:36
Speaker 1: where you don't have grandparents or aunts and uncles, or
37:40
Speaker 1: your brothers and sisters, it makes it a little more difficult,
37:46
Speaker 1: not because you feel it's that much more difficult, because
37:49
Speaker 1: you just know through friends and family, like some of
37:52
Speaker 1: the advantages they have. Now in like a month, I'm
37:56
Speaker 1: playing in this buddy invited me to this golf tournament Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
38:01
Speaker 1: and I immediately bought my mother in law Southwest flight
38:05
Speaker 1: for the basically the entire week. And I've been very lucky.
38:08
Speaker 1: Her mom comes all the time and has helped a lot.
38:11
Speaker 1: And you can find Southwest flights. You know, they're more
38:15
Speaker 1: expensive now than they were, but you still come out
38:18
Speaker 1: for a couple hundred bucks. But yeah, I mean, it's
38:21
Speaker 1: it can be a little difficult. I think it also
38:24
Speaker 1: really matters, like the time for you guys with a
38:27
Speaker 1: job very specific, our ours are just a little more
38:32
Speaker 1: open ended. I mean, I'm pretty lucky that if she
38:34
Speaker 1: needs me for a couple hours, and we're kind of kids,
38:37
Speaker 1: get a little older, you get on a little rhythm.
38:40
Speaker 1: But in a perfect world, like I mean, if I
38:43
Speaker 1: had a lot more money, I fuck, I'd I'd go
38:45
Speaker 1: knock on my next door neighbor's house and be like,
38:47
Speaker 1: how much you want for this house? Whatever they told me,
38:50
Speaker 1: I'd give it to them, and I would move her
38:51
Speaker 1: mother here immediately. And she's she does well in the
38:55
Speaker 1: Bay Area in real estate. I'd be like, you're retiring, Jennifer,
38:58
Speaker 1: You're coming to move next to us, and she'd be
39:00
Speaker 1: and whenever you want to see your your son. Because
39:03
Speaker 1: her her brother lives in Reno and they have a
39:07
Speaker 1: young baby that's probably nine months. I guess her first
39:11
Speaker 1: birthday is here in a month, so maybe eleven months.
39:13
Speaker 1: And she's able to kind of go back and forth.
39:15
Speaker 1: Obviously she can drive from there. She can't drive here.
39:19
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just kind of is what it is.
39:24
Speaker 1: Puts a little hair in your chest, more in her.
39:26
Speaker 1: She has way more legwork though I did watch I
39:29
Speaker 1: watched them this morning for about three hours. I went
39:32
Speaker 1: to the gym early, got home, showered, We kind of
39:36
Speaker 1: hung out from about eight thirty to she went to
39:39
Speaker 1: a spin class and was home by like eleven. Get
39:42
Speaker 1: you get in a little rhythm is really hard those
39:45
Speaker 1: first couple of months her mom was here a decent amount.
39:50
Speaker 1: Very difficult. Maybe I'm just i mean, not good at adapting.
39:55
Speaker 1: But it was hard and I did twenty percent max
39:59
Speaker 1: of the work. One time I said I'm doing fifty percent.
40:03
Speaker 1: That didn't go over well. I don't recommend ever saying
40:05
Speaker 1: that out loud. Your WNBA dating commic got me thinking
40:09
Speaker 1: how this stuff actually works behind the scenes. Do NFL
40:13
Speaker 1: teams have a real HR department like a normal company
40:16
Speaker 1: or are those kind of issues handled by the GM
40:19
Speaker 1: and the coach And is it different for players versus
40:22
Speaker 1: the front office staff. I'm dying imagine Jalen Carter getting
40:25
Speaker 1: called in the HR Carrol's office to go over why
40:28
Speaker 1: spinning on someone as an acceptable work place behavior normal people? Right,
40:34
Speaker 1: like when you if something were to happen in the
40:38
Speaker 1: workplace as a coach, maybe not the head coach, but
40:42
Speaker 1: like an assistant coach or a scout or something in
40:45
Speaker 1: the NFL, you would deal with HR, but you dealt
40:48
Speaker 1: with HR. I dealt with HR when I worked for
40:50
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I would imagine most I don't think the
40:57
Speaker 1: players are going to HR often. If the players have
40:59
Speaker 1: an issue, the HR is typically the owner, head coach,
41:04
Speaker 1: and the general manager, maybe the coordinator and their position
41:08
Speaker 1: coach their position coach probably acts as HR. But yeah,
41:12
Speaker 1: I would say the Jalen Carter, I would doubt he's
41:16
Speaker 1: been spent much time in the in the HR department,
41:19
Speaker 1: But everyone else in the building does. I think just
41:23
Speaker 1: it's basic like corporate strategy. If something weird happens, you
41:27
Speaker 1: know when when I got let go, the HR people
41:29
Speaker 1: reach out, so I think most people fall into the
41:33
Speaker 1: umbrella of HR. The players typically do not. But if
41:37
Speaker 1: you get a DUI with the Cowboys, I don't think
41:41
Speaker 1: HR Carol's hitting you up and talking to you about
41:44
Speaker 1: the disciplinary action. You could also argue the HR is
41:49
Speaker 1: the league, but that's part of you know, the players
41:51
Speaker 1: have a union, so it's just it's probably it's a
41:55
Speaker 1: little more complicated, But yeah, I don't I don't think
41:59
Speaker 1: you know. Rashi Rice was going down to the HR department.
42:03
Speaker 1: He said, Coachrie, I'll talk to him like an hour.
42:05
Speaker 1: I gotta go meet meet with Susie. Susie has some
42:08
Speaker 1: words for me like no.
42:11
Speaker 2: Meeting with Veach and Andy.
42:27
Speaker 1: Question for the mailbag. I'm Ohio native, just move back
42:30
Speaker 1: and still can't stand Ryan Day. I've always thought he
42:33
Speaker 1: was bad for Ohio State Buckeyes and now maybe even
42:35
Speaker 1: bad for college football as a whole. I saw him
42:37
Speaker 1: on a show recently suggesting college football should have a
42:41
Speaker 1: draft like the NFL, which is just wild. Maybe this
42:45
Speaker 1: finally wakes up some Buckeye fans curious, what are your
42:47
Speaker 1: thoughts in the latest let's call them questionable ideas. I
42:51
Speaker 1: didn't see that, But why would Ryan Day want to
42:53
Speaker 1: have a draft? Ryan Day's drafting, with his budget and
42:57
Speaker 1: his program the best players. If you had a let's
43:01
Speaker 1: say a draft in the conference, it's like you basically
43:04
Speaker 1: as a player, they'd have to factor in nil money.
43:09
Speaker 1: Like if you're a million dollar player and you're like,
43:10
Speaker 1: I want to play in the Big Ten, you go
43:12
Speaker 1: into a draft every year and like, if you're Ohio State, well,
43:15
Speaker 1: if that guy was good, you just get him. You
43:17
Speaker 1: were Oregon are gonna land the guy. So I don't
43:20
Speaker 1: know why he would want that. I do want to
43:25
Speaker 1: hate him. Maybe he's dying the beard. But he's pretty solid.
43:31
Speaker 1: I mean, he's had a good couple of years. He
43:34
Speaker 1: won the national championship two years ago, ran through the
43:36
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, beat the shit out of out of Michigan.
43:44
Speaker 1: Which as long as he's beating Michigan and winning playoff games,
43:47
Speaker 1: you know, Miami was just his equal. And if I
43:53
Speaker 1: remember in that game, wasn't there a field goal that
43:55
Speaker 1: he tried to kick the Ohio State game? You know,
43:59
Speaker 1: his offensive line just could be a little bit better.
44:02
Speaker 1: But he's clearly recruiting good players. He clearly builds a
44:04
Speaker 1: good coaching staff. I think he's doing a pretty good job.
44:10
Speaker 1: The NBA and Major League Baseball off toxic expansion with
44:12
Speaker 1: so many teams tanking. I don't understand. It seems like
44:15
Speaker 1: if you get rid of the Marlins in the Rays,
44:17
Speaker 1: no one would beat any If the NFL were to
44:20
Speaker 1: expand by two more teams, where would the teams be located?
44:23
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Portland, Boise, my hometown. I saw a
44:26
Speaker 1: rumor today that people think, I don't know if you've
44:29
Speaker 1: seen stories on this new Portland owner. He like, you know,
44:34
Speaker 1: if you have an eight o'clock game, obviously, if you're
44:37
Speaker 1: on the road, you're staying in the hotel, you're gonna
44:40
Speaker 1: do extended checkout. Well, if you have a traveling party
44:44
Speaker 1: of X number of people, it's not gonna cost you
44:47
Speaker 1: a little bit extra money. He makes the coaches and
44:49
Speaker 1: players check out of the hotel early so they don't
44:54
Speaker 1: have to pay the extension. What it's like twelve thirty? Like,
44:56
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? A lot of these guys
44:57
Speaker 1: take naps. And I saw someone saying what if he
45:01
Speaker 1: if the NBA doesn't actually expand and they just move
45:04
Speaker 1: some teams that they move the Trailblazers, Like what if
45:09
Speaker 1: he wants to be one of the teams, like moves
45:11
Speaker 1: to Vegas or moves the team to Seattle. And that's
45:16
Speaker 1: why he's trying to like this is like a nineteen
45:18
Speaker 1: seventies eighties type move, but intentionally mess with everybody because
45:22
Speaker 1: I guess he's already put out that. You know, he
45:25
Speaker 1: he wants a coach making like a million dollars a year.
45:27
Speaker 1: It's like what you'd make being like the prison state
45:29
Speaker 1: head coach. I mean, the Trailblazers actually aren't bad. The
45:34
Speaker 1: NFL has nowhere to expand to. I I don't even
45:40
Speaker 1: think it's an option because if you're a team the
45:43
Speaker 1: television deal is about to double or triple, you'd have
45:48
Speaker 1: to split that if you're thirty you know, without thirty
45:51
Speaker 1: one other owners. If you'd have to expand to two
45:53
Speaker 1: teams with thirty three different owners, so your check would
45:57
Speaker 1: be smaller. So I would imagine they wouldn't do that.
46:00
Speaker 1: We don't have enough quarterbacks for the teams we have now. Hey, John,
46:05
Speaker 1: listening to the pod, and you just said, I can't
46:08
Speaker 1: close my eyes. If I closed my eyes, I can't
46:12
Speaker 1: think of Japan beating Italy in the World Cup. FYI,
46:17
Speaker 1: Italy didn't even qualify. I didn't know that we had
46:24
Speaker 1: a meeting today and I was like, you know, I
46:26
Speaker 1: would love to get a sweet World Cup yest obviously
46:28
Speaker 1: Alexi Lawless, who I met when I was in with
46:32
Speaker 1: Colin I don't know, a year ago, and I remember
46:35
Speaker 1: as a kid when when they played Brazil and Stanford
46:39
Speaker 1: and I was actually on Stanford at a camp as
46:43
Speaker 1: like a ten year old that I was like, Alexi
46:46
Speaker 1: LOSTO be cool, but what do you think about like
46:48
Speaker 1: David Beckham and Josh one of our main guys the
46:52
Speaker 1: volume kind of laughs. I don't know if I don't
46:54
Speaker 1: know if we can land that one I listen, I won't.
46:57
Speaker 1: I won't press them on any crazy questions. So I
47:01
Speaker 1: don't think we're getting David Beckham anytime soon. When you
47:05
Speaker 1: say teams spend more cash than they are allowed to
47:07
Speaker 1: spend in terms of a cap, like your recent example
47:10
Speaker 1: with the Broncos versus the Chargers, what does that exactly mean?
47:13
Speaker 1: Does it mean turning chunks of salary into signing bonuses,
47:17
Speaker 1: pushing back salaries like how he does or the Saints
47:20
Speaker 1: did forever? Sorry I dropped out of business school and
47:22
Speaker 1: became a history major. So economics sound like a foreign
47:27
Speaker 1: language to me, totally understand. I'll use an example. Trent
47:33
Speaker 1: Williams got an extension yesterday. He got thirty seven million
47:36
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. I haven't seen the exact number of what
47:38
Speaker 1: will be paid into signing bonus, but his salary cap number,
47:42
Speaker 1: like his salary against the cap, whatever that number was.
47:47
Speaker 1: I think it was like thirty thirty three million dollars,
47:50
Speaker 1: and that would be you know, fifteen percent of the
47:53
Speaker 1: cap or whatever is going to go down with a
47:57
Speaker 1: contract extension. So when you give a guy a bonus,
48:00
Speaker 1: you can amortize it over the life of the three
48:04
Speaker 1: year deal. So, like you said, those teams do you
48:06
Speaker 1: just push back the salaries to later dates. It's why
48:10
Speaker 1: Lamar his contract this year was so big on the
48:14
Speaker 1: books because when they signed them to his original big
48:16
Speaker 1: extension a couple years later, they're like, hey, we'll just
48:19
Speaker 1: gonna he's a great player. It's gonna redo it anyway.
48:22
Speaker 1: We will have some fake number that we will never
48:25
Speaker 1: actually go through with. And eventually you do that long enough,
48:28
Speaker 1: eventually a guy just isn't good or you cut them
48:31
Speaker 1: or you trade them and that becomes a problem. But
48:36
Speaker 1: the reason I can spend more actual cash than the
48:39
Speaker 1: salary cap is because of signing bonuses and upfront money,
48:44
Speaker 1: and then I can spread that out throughout the contract.
48:47
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it is. Born and raised in Sacramento.
48:51
Speaker 1: But I'm a New York Giants fan, shout out. I'm curious,
48:55
Speaker 1: how uh, I'm curious about what we should do in
48:57
Speaker 1: the draft after the Lawrence trade. We need but I
49:00
Speaker 1: like Sonny from Ohio State, and we need offensive line help.
49:03
Speaker 1: Should we trade the tenth pick and get more draft
49:05
Speaker 1: capital for next year's draft? What are your thoughts? Also,
49:10
Speaker 1: congrats and a little man. I have a two fourth
49:11
Speaker 1: grade girls and they're just little comedians. I think the
49:18
Speaker 1: Giants have a very unique opportunity to stick and pick.
49:21
Speaker 1: I think you could try to get cute on this.
49:24
Speaker 1: But if there are twelve like most teams have, like
49:27
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve graded first round players, like, you could
49:31
Speaker 1: just get two good players. So whether that's Sonny Styles,
49:34
Speaker 1: whether that's Caleb Downs, whether that's one of the offensive linemen,
49:37
Speaker 1: whether that's the top corner, like, I just wouldn't overthink this.
49:44
Speaker 1: I would just try to take the two best players
49:46
Speaker 1: on my board at five and ten. I would not
49:49
Speaker 1: go wide receiver with either one of the picks. I
49:51
Speaker 1: would go defense at five in some form or fashion,
49:55
Speaker 1: and then I would do between. If Caleb Downs is
49:57
Speaker 1: their ten, I would do that if I went only
50:00
Speaker 1: styles at five, or I would go offensive line at ten.
50:09
Speaker 1: Can you explain how comp picks work? What determines what
50:12
Speaker 1: pick a team gets? Is there a strategy? It's a
50:16
Speaker 1: formula based on free agency. So the Ravens for years
50:20
Speaker 1: were really good at this because their players would be
50:24
Speaker 1: like the highest paid free agents. And if you have
50:27
Speaker 1: a free agent that hits the market like Linderbaum and
50:30
Speaker 1: he gets a one hundred million dollar contract and you
50:34
Speaker 1: don't sign people in free agency to equal that money,
50:37
Speaker 1: then you usually get third round company story picks. But
50:41
Speaker 1: even Linderbaum and Hendrickson's contracts might cancel out. I don't
50:47
Speaker 1: know this for a fact, but let's say they do.
50:49
Speaker 1: You wouldn't get one because you let a guy go,
50:51
Speaker 1: but you spend a bunch of money on a free agent.
50:53
Speaker 1: So it's all based on your guys leaving in free agency,
50:58
Speaker 1: the amounts of money they get, and who you bring
51:02
Speaker 1: back to replace them. So I actually don't know much
51:06
Speaker 1: about like how that was came to fruition, like whose
51:09
Speaker 1: idea it was originally, but it's based on guys leaving
51:13
Speaker 1: lifelong Jacks fan. Do you think if Trevor Lawrence has
51:16
Speaker 1: a bad year, what are the odds the new coach
51:18
Speaker 1: and GM drafting their own quarterbacks since Gladstone didn't draft him.
51:21
Speaker 1: I think he'd have to have a really bad year.
51:23
Speaker 1: He makes a lot of money. Clearly the coach likes
51:26
Speaker 1: him a lot. Like last year felt like his make
51:29
Speaker 1: or break year, Like if he was bad, they still
51:31
Speaker 1: would have some trade value. Someone would have taken a
51:33
Speaker 1: flyer on him. I think they're kind of all in
51:36
Speaker 1: with him. I think he gets like last year, this year,
51:39
Speaker 1: this I think he gets like a three or four
51:41
Speaker 1: year window with Liam Cohen. He was good last year.
51:44
Speaker 1: There's he was. He was way better than he had been.
51:47
Speaker 1: The turnovers dropped off a cliff. I mean previous year
51:52
Speaker 1: I was out. Now I think there are still some flaws.
51:55
Speaker 1: You watch him that playoff game. I don't think he'll
51:58
Speaker 1: ever live up to the hype where he was drafted.
52:01
Speaker 1: But I don't know why he couldn't become their version
52:05
Speaker 1: of Like again, he's different skill set, but like Goff Dak,
52:11
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a guy that's a top ten quarterback,
52:14
Speaker 1: never gonna be a top five, top three or four guy,
52:17
Speaker 1: but be a really good starting quarterback in the NFL.
52:19
Speaker 1: I think there are all their chips from the middle
52:22
Speaker 1: of the table on him. Considering agent contract, would you
52:25
Speaker 1: take Drake May or Lamar to start a franchise with
52:30
Speaker 1: both will probably get huge extensions next year. It's a
52:33
Speaker 1: good question. You know, Drake May, this is a big
52:36
Speaker 1: year for Lamar because last year there are people that
52:39
Speaker 1: go he showed signs of life or signs of diminishing, right,
52:45
Speaker 1: body breaking down not quite as quick. I mean at
52:48
Speaker 1: one time last year you looked up and you're like,
52:51
Speaker 1: this does not look like the Lamar Jackson. I know,
52:54
Speaker 1: Drake May is gonna be twenty four this fall. I'd
52:57
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a hypocrite because I do
53:00
Speaker 1: believe in being a great player. It's doing it six
53:05
Speaker 1: straight years at a high level is really really difficult.
53:08
Speaker 1: Being the guy that every game you go into you're
53:11
Speaker 1: viewed as one of the best players in the league,
53:12
Speaker 1: and everyone is gunning for you. You know, Lamar's gonna
53:15
Speaker 1: be I guess he turned twenty nine in January, so
53:18
Speaker 1: he'll be twenty nine all season and be thirty next year.
53:22
Speaker 1: I still believe Lamar could have a really good this
53:24
Speaker 1: year next year, like these three or four years, I
53:27
Speaker 1: could still play at a really really high level. Trake's
53:30
Speaker 1: got to prove like you can do this year in
53:31
Speaker 1: and year out. Now, I think most people, if you
53:34
Speaker 1: factored in age, you would just take Drake May, right,
53:38
Speaker 1: you would just bet on the younger guy. He's got
53:41
Speaker 1: him by six years. But Drake May, if he has
53:44
Speaker 1: another good year, his contract's gonna be enormous, so that
53:49
Speaker 1: it's not like he's gonna be a cheap elite player.
53:52
Speaker 1: I mean that contract's gonna be huge. Now, the first
53:54
Speaker 1: couple of years of that contract are still gonna have
53:56
Speaker 1: a low cap space. So just from a team building standpoint,
54:00
Speaker 1: Drake may top two or three MVP guy Lamar Jackson,
54:03
Speaker 1: former MVP. Let's assume he can get back there. Lamar
54:06
Speaker 1: Jackson makes his cap hits huge, and I think they
54:11
Speaker 1: pulled it back a little bit like a couple months ago,
54:13
Speaker 1: but at one point in time, it was the biggest
54:15
Speaker 1: in the league, and they're still working on a contract there.
54:18
Speaker 1: So I think if you go this year, next year,
54:21
Speaker 1: the next, like three or four years, Drake May's contract's
54:23
Speaker 1: gonna be even if you do extend him, his cap
54:26
Speaker 1: HiT's going to be really small. So just from a
54:28
Speaker 1: team building standpoint, I would take Drake May. Then if
54:32
Speaker 1: you factor in who would I bet on between the
54:34
Speaker 1: two of them. I do feel better about Mike Vrabel
54:36
Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels than I do about Jesse Menter and
54:39
Speaker 1: Decklan Doyle, But I'm not writing Lamar off. I could
54:43
Speaker 1: see Lamar coming back fucking swinging this year. I would
54:48
Speaker 1: expect Lamar to have a good year. I think there
54:50
Speaker 1: are bigger question marks with their roster how good are
54:52
Speaker 1: these coaching staff. But I would expect Lamar to look
54:55
Speaker 1: good this year physically. If he doesn't, then we got
54:58
Speaker 1: bigger problems than Drake May one percent the guy. So
55:01
Speaker 1: I would say here, if you factor in the money,
55:03
Speaker 1: you'd have to take Drake May. It's always risky though,
55:05
Speaker 1: Like is he just going to be a top two
55:06
Speaker 1: or three MVP candidate every year moving forward? Is he
55:09
Speaker 1: a guy that win his career ends he's gonna win
55:11
Speaker 1: a couple MVPs. Now, as Lamar, would you better on
55:13
Speaker 1: him winning another? Probably? Not right. How many guys in
55:16
Speaker 1: the league history have won three? Like there aren't time
55:18
Speaker 1: many of them have won two. But I think if
55:21
Speaker 1: you factor in the money, you gotta take Drake May
55:26
Speaker 1: the volume