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- 0:01Speaker 1: Viva Tequila Seltzer, the number one hard Seltzer in the world,
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- 0:13Speaker 1: soon to be snowy Saturday afternoon in middle of February,
- 0:16Speaker 1: the day after Valentine's Day.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Hope everyone had a great day with their loved one.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Uh today's episode is none other than my probably strongest
- 0:25Speaker 1: repeat guest that I have, Chris Mercurio Home. He is
- 0:30Speaker 1: the host of the Drive Home podcast, a Boston sports
- 0:33Speaker 1: based podcast.
- 0:34Speaker 3: But that's not I don't want a pigeon on you there.
- 0:36Speaker 3: But welcome back buddy.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on?
- 0:40Speaker 3: Ah, you know, nothing, just me and my little.
- 0:43Speaker 2: I think I think you're my strongest repeat customer as well. Yeah,
- 0:47Speaker 2: it's like it's like when.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm always ready to shoot the shit.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Uh So this is my first episode since the Super Bowl,
- 0:57Speaker 1: so we'll we'll start there. I know the game's over,
- 0:59Speaker 1: the dust to settle, the parades are done.
- 1:02Speaker 3: A couple people got shot. That seems to be a
- 1:04Speaker 3: yearly thing.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Now, how did anyone think that a parade in Philadelphia
- 1:11Speaker 2: with people drinking was not gonna end up like this, right.
- 1:15Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends from work that went there.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I haven't really talked to them yet, but I literally
- 1:19Speaker 1: told both of them, don't go. I'm not like that
- 1:22Speaker 1: old dad thing. It's just like I can't imagine it's
- 1:25Speaker 1: any fun. It's like going to like New York City
- 1:29Speaker 1: on New Year's Eve, Like, why the fuck would you
- 1:31Speaker 1: want to put yourself through that shit? What to fucking
- 1:33Speaker 1: cheer on something it already happened, like in this sports
- 1:36Speaker 1: world shit, like the next day they're already talking fucking
- 1:39Speaker 1: basketball and Lebron, you know, like they didn't mean they
- 1:42Speaker 1: only mentioned the fucking sports Well that was less than.
- 1:45Speaker 3: A week ago.
- 1:46Speaker 2: I know. Well it's funny too because all the talking
- 1:50Speaker 2: heads all made terrible predictions. So it's like, let's not
- 1:55Speaker 2: talk about it, because then they might bring up the
- 1:57Speaker 2: fact that I said Kansas City is gonna win by
- 1:59Speaker 2: thirty you know, like like, uh was it showed like
- 2:03Speaker 2: a Nick Wright said that Barkley's washed up, like preseason.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, yeah washed it.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be the worst contract in the NFL.
- 2:10Speaker 2: And it turns out it was probably what put them over.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The top and any contract that you sign a player two,
- 2:17Speaker 1: if they get one chip, then that contract is worth it. Yeah,
- 2:21Speaker 1: I mean, like you can't look at it any other way, Like.
- 2:24Speaker 2: And it's it's a three year deal, like a twenty
- 2:27Speaker 2: eight year old.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Guy like like LA already got their money's worth out
- 2:31Speaker 1: of show. Hey, they got one world title and he's
- 2:33Speaker 1: got nine years left there.
- 2:35Speaker 3: Everything now is gravy. Like, yeah, you can get.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Into the whole semantics of you know, the legacies and
- 2:41Speaker 1: is he you know, you know he needs to win
- 2:43Speaker 1: like five to be better than baby whatever, like all
- 2:45Speaker 1: the you know, they're just gonna come up with another
- 2:47Speaker 1: talking point after another talking point. The guy's obviously one
- 2:50Speaker 1: of the greatest players ever. They paid him the most
- 2:53Speaker 1: money ever to any player in any sport. And year
- 2:56Speaker 1: one he you know, I don't know why I switched
- 2:58Speaker 1: the baseball there, but you know what I mean, got
- 3:00Speaker 1: the ring in his first year with the Giants.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Well, it's like every context, every contract is great till
- 3:06Speaker 2: they get hurt or like every contract is bad unless
- 3:09Speaker 2: you win a World Series, you can always are like
- 3:12Speaker 2: a super Bowl, like you can always make that distinction.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just think, you know, with Saquon
- 3:18Speaker 3: going there.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I just love it because, you know, being Patriots fans
- 3:20Speaker 1: and me being in the heart of the New York area.
- 3:24Speaker 1: You know, New York fans were so juxtaposed on who
- 3:27Speaker 1: to root for in this game because Kansas City has
- 3:30Speaker 1: literally become the you know, the dark side of the NFL.
- 3:34Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's it's strange, like like Mahomes is a
- 3:38Speaker 1: likable guy, I think, you know, yeah, but she's a trumper,
- 3:42Speaker 1: so go go, Brittany.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Uh, I understand, but I think I think he takes
- 3:47Speaker 2: a lot of heat for her.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Well, his brother's a douche. His dad, Oh my god,
- 3:51Speaker 1: you want to get into that ship in a little.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Bit with his dad?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Did you did you see Barsels? Yeah?
- 3:56Speaker 3: I think it was all stage, but yes, John Rocker
- 3:57Speaker 3: is going to fight him.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, John, did you see? I think the funniest thing
- 4:02Speaker 2: I saw John Rocker tweet but something It was about
- 4:05Speaker 2: the guy that did the marine that ended up killing
- 4:09Speaker 2: the guy in the subway or whatever.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Daniel Penny yep.
- 4:14Speaker 2: John Rocker retweeted the news story and said, I tried
- 4:17Speaker 2: telling you guys twenty years ago.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Oh my god, that to me. I was reading a
- 4:25Speaker 1: lot of stuff that that was. The whole thing in
- 4:27Speaker 1: the street was pre planned. I mean, Mahomes being Mahomes,
- 4:32Speaker 1: he's gotta be like, Dad, what the fuck, Brittany, what
- 4:36Speaker 1: the fuck is brother?
- 4:37Speaker 3: What the fuck? Just let just shut the fuck up.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Let me go win fucking ten championships and raking all
- 4:44Speaker 1: this money and I'll take care of all of you.
- 4:46Speaker 3: But no, no one can keep the mouth shut.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Like it's like, let me be the face of the NFL, right,
- 4:51Speaker 2: Like that's what's gonna serve all of us the best,
- 4:54Speaker 2: So let me do that. Now. It's fucking Travis Kelcey
- 4:58Speaker 2: because every swifty and swifty unquote unquote in the world
- 5:03Speaker 2: cares about football. Now. They estimated she made them over
- 5:06Speaker 2: a billion dollars last year.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I'm sure, and that's why they She goes every game
- 5:10Speaker 1: and they show her and I mean, do you think
- 5:13Speaker 1: Kelsey hold on, let's we're fast forward in here. The
- 5:17Speaker 1: game itself. I mean, it was one of those games
- 5:21Speaker 1: where Mahomes has never played good in a super Bowl.
- 5:27Speaker 1: He's had great moments, but he's never had a great
- 5:31Speaker 1: I mean, it reminds you a little bit Tom Brady like,
- 5:33Speaker 1: like Tom Brady has that crazy stat where I don't
- 5:35Speaker 1: think he's throwing a touchdown on a first quarter in
- 5:36Speaker 1: any of the Super Bowls or something like that. Right,
- 5:39Speaker 1: he always notoriously gets off the slow starts. But you
- 5:42Speaker 1: always knew win or lose in the Super Bowls. You've
- 5:44Speaker 1: been to ten of them. He was seven and three.
- 5:46Speaker 1: They were in every fucking game, winner lose, they were.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It was it was a close game, and then they
- 5:52Speaker 1: and he blew out obviously, you know Kansas City three
- 5:54Speaker 1: years ago.
- 5:55Speaker 3: But this game, right off the rip, when.
- 5:59Speaker 1: It became fourteen nothing or whatever it was, I'm like
- 6:04Speaker 1: that seventeen first pick.
- 6:07Speaker 2: He threw his first pick when it was seven nothing
- 6:10Speaker 2: or fourteen nothing.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I want to say they had a field goal in there.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I want to say it was ten to nothing and
- 6:15Speaker 1: then seventeen to set and then he threw the pick
- 6:17Speaker 1: for he threw the pick six, which made it seventeen nothing.
- 6:20Speaker 3: And uh, I just I mean.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Just that, the pass rush and you know, the the
- 6:27Speaker 1: wide receivers dropping balls. I just it just wasn't the
- 6:30Speaker 1: Atlanta New England. Atlanta was not happened at halftime, I
- 6:33Speaker 1: had no I had zero inkling that Atlanta was going
- 6:36Speaker 1: to happen all over again, and its sure enough, it
- 6:38Speaker 1: didn't it Just like he's now three and two in
- 6:42Speaker 1: the Super Bowls, which granted Tom Brady was too. He
- 6:45Speaker 1: won his first three and then lost the two giant ones.
- 6:48Speaker 1: But there's like there's like a meme. It wasn't a meme,
- 6:52Speaker 1: but there was like a chart that showed like where
- 6:54Speaker 1: they both were at age twenty nine and very similar.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Obviously three super Bowl wins, two super Bowl losses, but
- 7:02Speaker 1: then that was only like a third of.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Tom Brady's career. And then you just it's just like.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Goes on and on and on about you know, the
- 7:10Speaker 1: four more super Bowl victories, the six more he was in,
- 7:13Speaker 1: Like it's fucking crazy, Like I just don't see him sustaining.
- 7:17Speaker 3: He just doesn't have one.
- 7:18Speaker 1: He's not six foot three like Brady is and fucking
- 7:21Speaker 1: stoic and he scrambles a lot.
- 7:24Speaker 3: Brady never did. He was pure pocket.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Like I just I just I think last Sunday solidified
- 7:30Speaker 1: from me the worry that Brady with some time in
- 7:33Speaker 1: my lifetime, because you can't be the goat and like
- 7:36Speaker 1: fucking five years later someone's the goat over you.
- 7:40Speaker 3: It's it's generational. It's not like fucking decades.
- 7:44Speaker 2: You can't be the goat when you haven't surpassed the
- 7:50Speaker 2: person everybody thinks is the goat. But not only on
- 7:52Speaker 2: top of that, when you compare the errors like there
- 7:56Speaker 2: is it's like right now in football, like you can't
- 8:00Speaker 2: touch this guy.
- 8:00Speaker 3: It's so pussy and it's and you can't.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Even touch him when he's out of the pocket. So
- 8:06Speaker 2: now you're looking at it, it's like Brady took a pounding,
- 8:09Speaker 2: Like you can't compare the three and that's why it
- 8:12Speaker 2: drives me. And that's when everybody says it's Brady was
- 8:14Speaker 2: the only was the reason we won. If you watch
- 8:17Speaker 2: those three first three Super Bowls, like our defense beat.
- 8:20Speaker 3: The shit out of everybody.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we won. Yeah, and like but like
- 8:26Speaker 2: and I have these people comparing, like everybody's freaking out.
- 8:30Speaker 2: And then afterwards, everybody's like, Mahomes will never be the
- 8:32Speaker 2: goat and all this stuff, and I'm like, yeah, but
- 8:35Speaker 2: let's look at it, like why the Chiefs will never
- 8:37Speaker 2: be a dynasty better than ours because none of their
- 8:40Speaker 2: defenses will ever hold up to our three and o
- 8:44Speaker 2: four defenses. They just won't. It's a different game, or
- 8:47Speaker 2: like sixteen hundred yards by Corey Dillon. What Chiefs? What
- 8:50Speaker 2: Chiefs running back is going to do that? It's it's
- 8:54Speaker 2: like even like our last what was it the AFC
- 8:57Speaker 2: Championship game then went to overtime in in Kansas City
- 9:02Speaker 2: with Brady last year and and Sony the show ran
- 9:08Speaker 2: for like two hundred something yards. They can't do that,
- 9:14Speaker 2: and and like but then you get this. I was
- 9:17Speaker 2: so funny. This one cracked me up. Stephen A. Smith said,
- 9:23Speaker 2: once Mahome repeats what's Mahome? Three peats, he's the goat
- 9:27Speaker 2: because Brady never even won back to back and I'm
- 9:30Speaker 2: like four, like you know what I mean, Like you know,
- 9:35Speaker 2: and and he was basically in a super Bowl every
- 9:38Speaker 2: two years of his career.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's it's the comparisons were like, I
- 9:43Speaker 1: get it, like you It's one of those things where, yeah,
- 9:45Speaker 1: all right, you got an argument, you went you you
- 9:47Speaker 1: do something and nobody's ever done before. But the colossal
- 9:51Speaker 1: way in which he lost shine shined light on the
- 9:55Speaker 1: fact that, you know what, he never performed well in
- 9:57Speaker 1: these games, uh, you know, and the two losses were
- 10:01Speaker 1: like by a combined fucking sixty something points. You know,
- 10:05Speaker 1: where Brady's three losses. Let's see we got so.
- 10:09Speaker 2: We lost seventeen to fourteen.
- 10:11Speaker 3: Three points. And then the second Giant game.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Was was that like nine.
- 10:16Speaker 1: No, it was under a touchdown, and then the Philly
- 10:19Speaker 1: game was eight. The Philly game was eight. So you know,
- 10:22Speaker 1: three losses, you know, yeah, it was all one score games.
- 10:26Speaker 1: We're all one score games, and he easily could have
- 10:29Speaker 1: won all three of those, you know, when it turned
- 10:31Speaker 1: for some of his victories could have easily been defeats
- 10:33Speaker 1: as well. But you know, that's how the ball bounces
- 10:35Speaker 1: in football, and to get just manhandled annihilated, even like
- 10:39Speaker 1: the Andy Reid greatest you know, the goat over Belichick
- 10:42Speaker 1: I think is, you know, Andy Reid's offensive minded guy
- 10:46Speaker 1: in an offensive driven league. You know, Bill had to
- 10:51Speaker 1: win Super Bowls over two generations of rule changes and
- 10:55Speaker 1: and you know, and the rules right right specifically to
- 11:01Speaker 1: hurt us.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Right, yeah, like the culture receivers would cry about us, right,
- 11:06Speaker 2: like all the hits.
- 11:07Speaker 1: In hand checking and all that or not hand checking,
- 11:09Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah it was hand checking, but you know
- 11:12Speaker 1: they got rid of all that. So now these wide
- 11:14Speaker 1: receivers after three yards, get free releases, and it's just
- 11:17Speaker 1: fucking easy, you know, easier.
- 11:20Speaker 2: But it's like to like read like he never won
- 11:24Speaker 2: without spags. Ye just kind of like Parcels never won
- 11:28Speaker 2: without Bill, right, So it's like you take that and like,
- 11:32Speaker 2: but here's the thing. Bill one with Romeo Cornell, he
- 11:35Speaker 2: won with, uh, what's the Matt Patricia who's now Ohio
- 11:40Speaker 2: State's defensive coordinator. But like he's what anyone with Charlie Weiss.
- 11:47Speaker 2: He won with Josh McDaniels. Like everything around him has changed,
- 11:52Speaker 2: and he always changed with the rules, Like that seven
- 11:56Speaker 2: team was he built that offense because they've changed so
- 12:01Speaker 2: many rules about the defense, and then they realized back
- 12:04Speaker 2: then at least they realized, Okay, this isn't as much fun.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Nobody's getting hit, nobody's getting hurt, so they changed the
- 12:10Speaker 2: rules back and then build one again. Right, Reid's never
- 12:14Speaker 2: done that.
- 12:15Speaker 1: No, no, no, he has not, And I'm not saying
- 12:18Speaker 1: he's not, you know, top five coach of all time
- 12:20Speaker 1: because you know, just the two careers he had and
- 12:23Speaker 1: two different teams as head coaches is phenomenal in its
- 12:26Speaker 1: own right. You know, he was in like four straight
- 12:29Speaker 1: NFC championship games before he finally broke through and obviously
- 12:32Speaker 1: lost to the Patriots with Reid with Eagles, that was
- 12:36Speaker 1: with mcknab yep, yep, and then obviously this run in
- 12:40Speaker 1: Kansas City. You know, since he got there, they've been
- 12:42Speaker 1: a perennial playoff team, even with Alex Smith and you know,
- 12:46Speaker 1: he's great, Like I'm not saying anything away from him,
- 12:48Speaker 1: but you know, it's have they.
- 12:49Speaker 2: Gone to Haven't they gone to every championship game since
- 12:53Speaker 2: that time we beat him in eighteen?
- 12:55Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 12:55Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, they've gone to like sixth straight or seventh straight, yeah,
- 12:59Speaker 1: which is which is awesome them. You know, but again,
- 13:02Speaker 1: like you said, you watched like this this game. I
- 13:04Speaker 1: think this last playoff run is really gonna hurt Kansas
- 13:09Speaker 1: City moving forward because you know, are they going to
- 13:12Speaker 1: get the all these little tik tak ref calls? I mean,
- 13:14Speaker 1: like this is where social media really plays a role in.
- 13:19Speaker 1: You know, like that first call in the Super Bowl
- 13:21Speaker 1: where we were texting each other out here we go,
- 13:23Speaker 1: here we fucking go, Like that wasn't a fucking penalty And.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I don't know if the call.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Came in which yeah, then the switch case. Yeah, all
- 13:33Speaker 2: of a sudden, Kansas City wasn't getting getting anything.
- 13:36Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm like, maybe it's it's like, you know,
- 13:39Speaker 1: not to use a trump trump ism here, but was
- 13:41Speaker 1: it too big to rig? Was it too lopsided to
- 13:44Speaker 1: even try to rig this game to favor Kansas City's outcome?
- 13:50Speaker 2: Would totally you couldn't help it. Yeah, But here's the
- 13:53Speaker 2: other thing, like like Kansas City with read right, like
- 13:56Speaker 2: reach this great offensive coach, right, and I think we
- 13:59Speaker 2: all agree that is they only scored thirty points once
- 14:03Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, with Patrick.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Mahomes, Yep, like Kelsey fell off a cliff.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I think he retires, which is fine, like you think
- 14:11Speaker 1: he does unless they pressure it. I mean, it's it's
- 14:13Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna have to get the league's blessing, you know,
- 14:18Speaker 1: and maybe next year's halftime show is his wedding.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Who the fuck knows, you know.
- 14:22Speaker 2: But see, I thought I thought, like my which was
- 14:25Speaker 2: gonna be my own personal help, was that Kansas City
- 14:28Speaker 2: would win, he'd score the winning touchdown.
- 14:31Speaker 3: And then he proposed yeah game.
- 14:33Speaker 2: I was like, and I don't even care if they
- 14:35Speaker 2: get married. I don't care about any of that. I
- 14:37Speaker 2: just this is what I'm looking out on Super Bowl someday.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Can you give me a little credit, though, I mean,
- 14:41Speaker 1: I picked like this game could be a blowout Philly,
- 14:44Speaker 1: Like I just, I just I just thought they had
- 14:46Speaker 1: the better players all around. And I living where I live,
- 14:50Speaker 1: I say, I see a lot of Phillies games. I've
- 14:51Speaker 1: seen you play the Giants twice. I just sometimes, you know,
- 14:54Speaker 1: the every Dallas game seems to be on, So that's
- 14:56Speaker 1: four games a year I can watch, you know, I uh,
- 15:01Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for Jalen Hurts. That
- 15:03Speaker 1: guy's his career has been up and down. You know,
- 15:08Speaker 1: got benched at halftime of a championship game in Alabama
- 15:11Speaker 1: for Tua.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Uh you know, transferred out.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Then came back in and won a game with them,
- 15:18Speaker 2: went to got hurt, and then went.
- 15:20Speaker 1: To Oklahoma almost won the Heisman there. Like I don't know,
- 15:25Speaker 1: like it's it's you know, is he like the greatest
- 15:28Speaker 1: passer of the ball. No, But he's smart. You know, he's.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Over.
- 15:34Speaker 3: He doesn't drink. Did you know that I did not,
- 15:37Speaker 3: so I didn't. Well I can't say. I can't say
- 15:39Speaker 3: for sure that he's like sober.
- 15:41Speaker 1: But they did something where I think they were on
- 15:44Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel and they brought out all the linemen and
- 15:47Speaker 1: they all like shotgun the beer and he just stood
- 15:49Speaker 1: back and didn't do it, like pretended to like because
- 15:51Speaker 1: he doesn't drink.
- 15:52Speaker 3: I don't know. I was like, good for him, you know,
- 15:56Speaker 3: are the all right?
- 15:56Speaker 2: Well?
- 15:57Speaker 3: Quick question? Where does where does Kansas City go? From here?
- 15:59Speaker 2: Where? Not?
- 16:00Speaker 3: Where do they go?
- 16:00Speaker 1: And we could talk about that forever because I still
- 16:02Speaker 1: think they're going to be a destination for free agents
- 16:05Speaker 1: as long as you have mahomes.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's the thing. Their line got exposed. And
- 16:10Speaker 2: it's funny because they drafted it's it's like the Hawaiian name.
- 16:14Speaker 2: It's like Mua laga or forget what it was. As
- 16:17Speaker 2: a top draft pick, he got benched like week three.
- 16:21Speaker 2: He was supposed to be their left tackle. They moved
- 16:23Speaker 2: you Joe Toney out into left tangle and they're in
- 16:26Speaker 2: salary cap hell. Now. I know in the NFL you
- 16:29Speaker 2: can always push money around and you can all you know, always,
- 16:33Speaker 2: but they're in salary cap hell and they got to
- 16:35Speaker 2: fix their offensive line, right. But anybody that thinks that
- 16:40Speaker 2: this is the end of them, you gotta wake up
- 16:42Speaker 2: because they're gonna be right.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Back to They'll be hosting the AFC Championship Game again
- 16:46Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, agreed, agreed with that. Now, Philly, are
- 16:50Speaker 1: they here to stay or are they going to have
- 16:52Speaker 1: the Actually no, Well here's the thing, like, does AJ
- 16:56Speaker 1: Brown somehow make it to New England?
- 16:59Speaker 3: He wants to play here?
- 17:00Speaker 2: I know, But there's all right, three things. Two things. One,
- 17:05Speaker 2: they are three best defensive players. It's like Sweat a
- 17:08Speaker 2: D lineman and Carter the.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Line, yeah, the kid from Georgia.
- 17:14Speaker 2: But they're all free agents so eventually, And and the
- 17:18Speaker 2: thing is in sports, like you and I have been
- 17:20Speaker 2: sports fans for one hundred years now, people overpay for rings.
- 17:24Speaker 2: So like if you win a ring, someone's gonna overpay
- 17:27Speaker 2: for you. Oh yeah yeah.
- 17:30Speaker 3: But who is the guy who is the guy who
- 17:32Speaker 3: excuse me of yawning? Oh man, I.
- 17:35Speaker 1: Fucking I have like a cold, that's nasty. Who was
- 17:40Speaker 1: the guy on Dallas that won the and and the
- 17:43Speaker 1: Super Bowl?
- 17:44Speaker 3: MVP?
- 17:45Speaker 1: Larry Brown? He was like the one that kicked all
- 17:47Speaker 1: that off. He signed a huge free agent deal that
- 17:50Speaker 1: offseason Arizona.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Maybe it was the Raiders.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Was it the Raiders?
- 17:56Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, okay, because he had those two picks. Yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 2: they were the worst throwing balls ever. Yeah, Like there
- 18:04Speaker 2: was no even receiver. It was like, oh, driver was
- 18:07Speaker 2: throwing to him yep, and yeah, and then that kicked
- 18:10Speaker 2: it off and then obviously Al Davis he over paid for.
- 18:13Speaker 2: But that's like, I mean, it's even in every sport.
- 18:15Speaker 2: I remember the Wizards signed Tyron Lou because he had
- 18:19Speaker 2: won three titles with the Lakers. They gave him like
- 18:21Speaker 2: a huge contract. It's like he wasn't even a starter.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Like his contribution was being stepped over by Alan Iverson. Like,
- 18:28Speaker 2: but people go crazy for rings. Yeah, but so Philly can't.
- 18:32Speaker 2: So here's the problem. A J. Brown was a thirty
- 18:35Speaker 2: one million dollar cap hit. If Philly trades him, cuts
- 18:39Speaker 2: them whatever, they have a twenty million dollar good cap hit.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Because basically how it works is any bonuses or any
- 18:48Speaker 2: like signing bonus that you spread out or like workout
- 18:51Speaker 2: bonuses that you can spread out over the years, gets
- 18:54Speaker 2: accelerated and put on your cap. So they they would
- 18:58Speaker 2: get a twenty million dollar dead cap hit it and
- 19:00Speaker 2: they only have twenty four million in cap space, so
- 19:03Speaker 2: you're better off just keeping them.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Right, Well, no, no, I mean, I'm saying this year,
- 19:09Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, does does is there a
- 19:12Speaker 1: mass exodus of you know, a lot of the defensive players,
- 19:15Speaker 1: like you said, or do they stick together and try
- 19:18Speaker 1: to run it back. I mean, I still think they're
- 19:20Speaker 1: going to be that team that's gonna challenge the division
- 19:22Speaker 1: every year, especially that division.
- 19:24Speaker 3: Well now we're.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Washington playing better, but uh, you know, and they crushed Washington,
- 19:29Speaker 1: so they were like, yeah, nice try, guys, but you know,
- 19:32Speaker 1: you got a little little growing pains for you guys
- 19:34Speaker 1: coming up.
- 19:35Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at both teams in the
- 19:37Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, I mean, is it a far
- 19:40Speaker 2: fetched scenario that they're both in the championship game next year? No? Right, No,
- 19:45Speaker 2: Like it's it's.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Not like what what team?
- 19:47Speaker 1: I mean, Detroit probably has the best shot outside of that,
- 19:50Speaker 1: but other than that Green Bay Rams, I mean, I
- 19:56Speaker 1: think I think they have the Yeah, I think so.
- 19:59Speaker 1: I'm I mean that they they just kind of got
- 20:01Speaker 1: bum rushed that game. You know, it was one of
- 20:04Speaker 1: those weird you see these games every once in a
- 20:06Speaker 1: while in the playoffs. You just don't see it coming.
- 20:08Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened to Detroit. Like, if
- 20:10Speaker 1: Detroit won, they would have been home against Philly. You know,
- 20:14Speaker 1: I think they could have won that game, and I
- 20:15Speaker 1: think they would have beaten Kansas City. So I you know,
- 20:19Speaker 1: they lost.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Both their offensive coordinator and defensive court.
- 20:22Speaker 1: No, that'll hurt for sure, for sure, you know, but
- 20:26Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know they still
- 20:28Speaker 1: got a shitload of talent on offense. You know, I
- 20:33Speaker 1: started this podcast. One of my first podcasts ever was
- 20:36Speaker 1: month was fucking making fun of Dan Campbell's higher Like
- 20:40Speaker 1: my third episode in, I was like, this guy's biting kneecas.
- 20:44Speaker 3: This is going to end so badly.
- 20:46Speaker 1: And while I will eat crowing that, Like, I think
- 20:48Speaker 1: he's that kind of coach that just gets the most
- 20:50Speaker 1: out of his players.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Josina Anderson doesn't agree with you.
- 20:55Speaker 3: I fucking was. I literally have a comment loaded up
- 20:57Speaker 3: in my Twitter right now. What was she talking about?
- 21:01Speaker 2: Something stupid?
- 21:03Speaker 3: What was it?
- 21:04Speaker 1: It was she she she commented on somebody's original tweet.
- 21:09Speaker 2: It was it was a couple of hours ago. Oh
- 21:13Speaker 2: I didn't see that, but I did see. Well, obviously
- 21:16Speaker 2: I got into it with her about Drawn Mayo firing
- 21:19Speaker 2: because she tried to make it about race but Mayo,
- 21:21Speaker 2: I mean Mayo's Mayo's up there with like Rod Rust
- 21:24Speaker 2: and Dick McPherson is worst coaches we've ever had. But
- 21:31Speaker 2: she did another one where the Justin Tucker stuff came
- 21:35Speaker 2: out and she said, like the truth always reveals itself
- 21:42Speaker 2: because it wasn't like picked up as a story compared
- 21:45Speaker 2: to Deshaun Watson, but it was like there was there
- 21:48Speaker 2: was three women and Deshaun Watson was twenty three. So
- 21:54Speaker 2: like and the Deshaun Watson thing happened over the course
- 21:57Speaker 2: of a year. It's like give it an hour. Like
- 22:00Speaker 2: it like race baiting is like in sports. It's the
- 22:03Speaker 2: dumbest thing I've ever heard.
- 22:06Speaker 3: I'm trying. You can't remember what the fuck she said today?
- 22:08Speaker 3: But whatever do you think?
- 22:09Speaker 2: Do you think I don't care about a fucking kicker
- 22:12Speaker 2: right as a fuck?
- 22:14Speaker 1: No, I mean you won't see him again. Imagine he
- 22:17Speaker 1: gets cut. It's funny though, you look at it and
- 22:20Speaker 1: it's like, wow, he had his worst He had to
- 22:22Speaker 1: know this ship was coming down the pike because he
- 22:23Speaker 1: had a terrible year.
- 22:24Speaker 2: Was just going to say he had his worst year ever.
- 22:26Speaker 1: Yeah, so he must have he must have known it
- 22:29Speaker 1: was going to drop.
- 22:30Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be a post June one cut.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll finish football with the quick Pats. Off
- 22:39Speaker 1: season starts. You know what free agencies the first week
- 22:42Speaker 1: of March.
- 22:43Speaker 2: March twelfth, I think is free agency.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Is that it okay?
- 22:46Speaker 2: And then the draft is the last weekend in April?
- 22:49Speaker 3: Yep.
- 22:50Speaker 1: So I mean here we are again. We had these
- 22:52Speaker 1: chats last year, but we got our guy. Uh, you know,
- 22:57Speaker 1: obviously it's gonna be flip flopping around. We have to
- 22:59Speaker 1: worry about what three teams would take because John Rott
- 23:02Speaker 1: drawd Mayo is a fucking dumb piece of shit and
- 23:05Speaker 1: won the last game of the year where we would
- 23:07Speaker 1: have had gazillion of multiple offers.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Is that the ultimate go fuck yourself?
- 23:13Speaker 3: Yep? I mean good for him. He knew he was
- 23:16Speaker 3: getting fired. He's like, fuck you, I'm gonna win this game.
- 23:19Speaker 3: You know.
- 23:19Speaker 2: Do you remember it was like there was the one
- 23:21Speaker 2: o'clock game and I think it was like four thirty
- 23:25Speaker 2: the news came down.
- 23:28Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well.
- 23:28Speaker 1: You know what's crazy though, by playing Milton that game,
- 23:31Speaker 1: and which is what we asked for, let's not you know,
- 23:34Speaker 1: be stupid here. We didn't want me to play I
- 23:39Speaker 1: mean he's got value. Now Milton has value. Does he
- 23:43Speaker 1: have second round pick value?
- 23:45Speaker 3: No, but.
- 23:48Speaker 1: There could be knock on one an instance where you know,
- 23:50Speaker 1: May goes down Week twelve for three games and we're
- 23:55Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt and Milton comes in and goes
- 23:57Speaker 1: two to one. You know, it's it's we you got
- 24:00Speaker 1: ship for Mattkatsle one year. Yeah, you know, so you
- 24:06Speaker 1: never know.
- 24:06Speaker 2: I mean, so it was a sixth round pick last year.
- 24:11Speaker 2: So anything five and above is a win.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Right, I mean, unless Milton ends up, you know, really
- 24:16Speaker 1: being a great quarterback. And that's like, but you can't,
- 24:18Speaker 1: you can't, you can't. You know, you can't read those
- 24:20Speaker 1: tea leaves though, because you just don't know. And a
- 24:23Speaker 1: lot of quarterback plays situational. It's where you end up.
- 24:25Speaker 1: It's not you know, Patrick Mahomes is not going to
- 24:30Speaker 1: you know, the Cleveland Oh maybe Cleveland, Cleveland has some town,
- 24:33Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, you're not gonna go
- 24:34Speaker 1: to every team in the NFL and turn them around.
- 24:36Speaker 2: He's not going to the Panthers and they're gonna win
- 24:38Speaker 2: fourteen games, just right. So I mean, yeah, but here's
- 24:43Speaker 2: the other thing, Like it's such a quarterback shitty year.
- 24:48Speaker 2: This couldn't be the worst year. It couldn't possibly be
- 24:52Speaker 2: a worst year to be a top five team right now,
- 24:55Speaker 2: because there's nobody dying for any of those guys. I
- 24:58Speaker 2: saw it.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still.
- 25:01Speaker 2: I know. But I saw something the other day where
- 25:03Speaker 2: a GM was like, I don't even have a first
- 25:05Speaker 2: round grade on Shudur Sanders.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 25:08Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean but that that is the nature
- 25:12Speaker 1: of the position. You know, there's so many QB needy
- 25:15Speaker 1: teams out there. I mean, how many are there this year? Jets,
- 25:20Speaker 1: Tennessee Raiders, Giants. Giants don't even have a fucking starter.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I don't think on their roster. You know, they have
- 25:27Speaker 1: a quarterback on their roster right now, Tyron Taylor or is.
- 25:30Speaker 3: That a jack? I don't even know Tommy Cutlets, No,
- 25:34Speaker 3: he's a free agent.
- 25:36Speaker 1: I don't think they have a quarterback in the room
- 25:37Speaker 1: right now. It's fucking crazy.
- 25:41Speaker 2: And what do they have the third?
- 25:43Speaker 3: They're a third.
- 25:44Speaker 1: They're ahead of us, all right, So let's say it
- 25:46Speaker 1: goes quarterback quarterback Travis do we take do we take
- 25:51Speaker 1: Abdul Carter or do we trade out?
- 25:54Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be Carter.
- 25:55Speaker 3: I do too.
- 25:56Speaker 1: If we had a different coach, I might say differently.
- 25:58Speaker 1: But because it's and I'm completely fine with that pick
- 26:04Speaker 1: because we wanted we wanted Micah Parsons, but Dallas jumped
- 26:09Speaker 1: up and grabbed him. We were not going mac Jones
- 26:11Speaker 1: if he was there.
- 26:14Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, But I don't think. But here's the other thing, Like,
- 26:18Speaker 2: I think the only pick I'll be unhappy about is
- 26:22Speaker 2: Travis Hunter.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't like him, do you.
- 26:25Speaker 2: No, He's not good. He's not he's not good. He's
- 26:28Speaker 2: not good the Big twelve. He's he's beaten Big twelve
- 26:33Speaker 2: defenses like Colorado State. He's you know what I mean.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna play mostly defense in the NFL. He's
- 26:40Speaker 1: gonna say he's gonna take ten percent of offensive snaps.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Yeah, but supposedly. Remember I had the guy on my show,
- 26:47Speaker 2: Dan Kelly, who's an NFL reporter, said that everyone in
- 26:50Speaker 2: the league knows he wants to play wide receiver because
- 26:53Speaker 2: that's where the most money is. So it's like knowing
- 26:56Speaker 2: that he wants to play wide receiver.
- 26:59Speaker 3: I mean, is that is that even true?
- 27:02Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 27:03Speaker 1: Over over a, I mean I see what the money
- 27:05Speaker 1: some of these fucking dbs are making.
- 27:08Speaker 3: I don't think there's that big of a difference.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're making like four one if you're a
- 27:13Speaker 2: wide receiver now, like you're Justin Jefferson and all them.
- 27:17Speaker 1: He's not, he's not. He's not that kind of wide
- 27:19Speaker 1: receiver though you know he's he's small, He's not. I mean,
- 27:23Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and A. J.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Brown. These guys are big dudes, I know.
- 27:28Speaker 2: But he's just also one of those, like I mean,
- 27:31Speaker 2: if you watch him, he's beating up on bad teams.
- 27:35Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, you know you can say
- 27:38Speaker 3: that about a lot of players.
- 27:39Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta look at tape, you gotta look
- 27:40Speaker 1: at film, you gotta look at his speed, his reaction time.
- 27:44Speaker 1: You know, unfortunately doesn't get to play in Ohio State
- 27:46Speaker 1: and go up against you know, their wide receivers, and
- 27:48Speaker 1: I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, I
- 27:51Speaker 1: have to say he's bad. I think it's just a
- 27:53Speaker 1: little bit of an overstatement.
- 27:55Speaker 2: It's not bad.
- 27:57Speaker 3: I mean, he won the highest.
- 27:59Speaker 2: He's an average wide receiver and he's above average cornerback.
- 28:03Speaker 1: I mean sorry, so you take those two together and
- 28:06Speaker 1: it's a lot better than a lot of the other ship.
- 28:08Speaker 3: You're gonna get out.
- 28:08Speaker 2: There physically, physically, you can't hold up in the NFL
- 28:11Speaker 2: doing what he did like he was playing.
- 28:13Speaker 3: No, he's not gonna play one hundred fucking snaps a game.
- 28:16Speaker 2: You can't.
- 28:18Speaker 3: But if but if he fell in our lap and
- 28:20Speaker 3: you you don't.
- 28:22Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but like you put him across Christian Gonzales.
- 28:25Speaker 1: I mean, you got fucking two lockdowns. But potentially, I mean,
- 28:29Speaker 1: Christian Gazalz not being an All Pro is just slapping
- 28:32Speaker 1: his fucking face.
- 28:33Speaker 3: The dude.
- 28:34Speaker 1: He would He give a one touchdown this year and
- 28:36Speaker 1: it was to Garrett Wilson on a fucking dime by
- 28:39Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Other than that, they don't even throw his way.
- 28:43Speaker 2: He's like got numbers statistically, like he's like one of
- 28:46Speaker 2: the top corners in the entire league.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Like, and but did did he get hurt again this year?
- 28:52Speaker 3: I think he missed maybe a couple of games.
- 28:54Speaker 2: But that's the only thing with him.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Well, I mean last year's injury fucking broke something. I mean,
- 29:01Speaker 1: what are you gonna do?
- 29:02Speaker 2: He fucking he fucking tore him like his labrum trying
- 29:06Speaker 2: to tackle somebody. Yeah, Matt like was going crazy about that.
- 29:10Speaker 2: He's like, this is what happens. So you don't let
- 29:11Speaker 2: him tackle in practice. They don't know how to tackle, right, Yeah?
- 29:16Speaker 3: True?
- 29:16Speaker 2: You know, so we have we have nine picks, one
- 29:20Speaker 2: hundred and twenty million dollars in cap space.
- 29:23Speaker 3: We should have a bunch of different look at team
- 29:25Speaker 3: next year. This year, that's for sure.
- 29:27Speaker 2: Well, we should take that one hundred and twenty million
- 29:29Speaker 2: and spread it out, not give like one guy forty million.
- 29:33Speaker 1: We should spread it out so that takes Higgins out
- 29:35Speaker 1: of play one hundred.
- 29:37Speaker 2: I don't want him. I don't want him. And I'll
- 29:41Speaker 2: tell you, you.
- 29:41Speaker 1: Know, you rail against all the Boston sports gms about
- 29:44Speaker 1: not signing big guys, like what the fuck, Like, let's
- 29:47Speaker 1: get this done. You are the biggest penny pinching, fucking
- 29:50Speaker 1: guy I know when it comes to these like like
- 29:53Speaker 1: off season moves.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I am. But here's the thing. I'll tell you why.
- 29:57Speaker 2: This is my t Higgins Deebo Samuel forty million dollar
- 30:01Speaker 2: wide receiver. We're not one player away. We need way
- 30:06Speaker 2: more than one wide receiver to even make the playoffs.
- 30:09Speaker 3: No, I understand that by.
- 30:11Speaker 2: Dedicating one third of your cap space to one guy
- 30:16Speaker 2: is not smart business.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Okay, So that one hold on a second, that one
- 30:20Speaker 1: third that is T Higgins still leaves you with eighty
- 30:24Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space that probably more than half
- 30:28Speaker 1: the league still doesn't have in available cap space. With
- 30:32Speaker 1: our nine picks, which three to four of them are
- 30:35Speaker 1: very high quality picks, you have the money. When is
- 30:40Speaker 1: the next time you're gonna have the money to get
- 30:42Speaker 1: a guy like this? The NFL switches so quickly year
- 30:46Speaker 1: to year. Look at the fucking Commanders.
- 30:48Speaker 2: They were better than we were going into that.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Fine, but they sucked last year. They were one game
- 30:54Speaker 3: from the super.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Bowl this year. Who says we can't be and we're
- 30:58Speaker 1: gonna need eventually a play like T Higgins. Doesn't have
- 31:01Speaker 1: to be him, but these are the years you have
- 31:04Speaker 1: the money to do it. When we had it three
- 31:07Speaker 1: years ago, we blew it. We signed the wrong guys.
- 31:10Speaker 1: Let's just be honest.
- 31:12Speaker 2: We're still won ten gay right.
- 31:14Speaker 3: Well, we still had Belichick.
- 31:17Speaker 2: But here's my thing, what are we better offense one
- 31:21Speaker 2: forty million dollar guy or forty ten million dollar veterans
- 31:24Speaker 2: that can play.
- 31:25Speaker 3: I don't know, Chris, depends who they are.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I mean, it's just You're like, you're just you're just
- 31:28Speaker 1: throwing numbers around, You're not throwing players. All right, Give
- 31:31Speaker 1: me four players that are ten million dollars a year
- 31:34Speaker 1: that are going to make an impact on this team
- 31:37Speaker 1: more so than Higgins could if he's won, which I'll
- 31:40Speaker 1: give you credit if he's healthy, because he doesn't have
- 31:43Speaker 1: an injury history. And that is throwing money out the window,
- 31:46Speaker 1: which I completely understand, but that's the nature of the sport.
- 31:50Speaker 1: I would rather give him three years, four years of
- 31:53Speaker 1: forty million whatever, three or four whatever you want to do.
- 31:55Speaker 1: You can't go past that, and if he takes it, great,
- 31:59Speaker 1: you're still left the shit ton of money where you
- 32:01Speaker 1: can go get.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Those eight ten million dollar players. Sometimes we don't even
- 32:05Speaker 3: spend to our limit. We are the lead. We wait,
- 32:08Speaker 3: our team spends the least on players.
- 32:11Speaker 2: So is I mean? All right, So here's the thing.
- 32:13Speaker 2: All right, Give me Josh Schweat from the Eagles for
- 32:16Speaker 2: twenty million dollars. Give me Zach Bond for ten million dollars.
- 32:19Speaker 3: All right, So you're rating, you're raiding the Phillies Coffer. Okay,
- 32:23Speaker 3: why not?
- 32:24Speaker 1: All right, Josh, you just talked about you just talked
- 32:27Speaker 1: about these players that have the Super Bowl fucking high
- 32:31Speaker 1: and are getting paid for it, and now you want
- 32:33Speaker 1: to sign them.
- 32:33Speaker 2: All those guys are not just because of the rings.
- 32:38Speaker 2: I mean, they're really good players, and they're both free agents,
- 32:41Speaker 2: and you just just throwing that much money into one
- 32:46Speaker 2: guy just doesn't make sense.
- 32:48Speaker 3: So you went forty on t I think. I don't
- 32:50Speaker 3: think he's gonna get forty, by the way, but.
- 32:52Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pay forty. I did the math.
- 32:56Speaker 3: I did this, all right, fine, forty twenty and ten.
- 32:58Speaker 1: That's seventy right, Yeah, we still have half of our
- 33:02Speaker 1: salary left.
- 33:03Speaker 3: We still got how much are we out this year?
- 33:06Speaker 2: So we'd have we'd have sixty million or no, we'd.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Have fifty million still left over after those three players.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Now that those three players are all impactful players, right.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Right, But now now we're not forty five players away.
- 33:18Speaker 2: We're forty two.
- 33:20Speaker 3: We're not that many players away, Chris.
- 33:23Speaker 2: How many players away do you think we are? Fifteen
- 33:28Speaker 2: offense or defense both?
- 33:31Speaker 3: We're like three really good linemen away. We're probably a
- 33:34Speaker 3: couple d linemen away.
- 33:36Speaker 1: We're definitely at least one to two stud wide receivers away,
- 33:39Speaker 1: running backs, or Diamond doesn't could care less. We'll get
- 33:42Speaker 1: one more year out of the tight ends. Maybe we
- 33:44Speaker 1: might have to draft one. Uh, you know, our linebackers
- 33:47Speaker 1: are so so we have great corner, We got some
- 33:50Speaker 1: d line that's pretty good. We can obviously improve there
- 33:53Speaker 1: special teams or whatever, and I don't want to talk
- 33:55Speaker 1: about that right now. You know, like we're not forty
- 33:58Speaker 1: two players away, so we have May and then that's it.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Right now.
- 34:03Speaker 4: Christian Gonzales, you got Dutch two, you got You love
- 34:08Speaker 4: all our.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Wide receivers, Chris, you love them all. That's your problem.
- 34:11Speaker 1: That's why you don't want t Higgins.
- 34:12Speaker 2: I actually know you know what it is.
- 34:15Speaker 3: You're a big booty guy.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Douglas has to go. Douglas has to go.
- 34:22Speaker 1: See Douglas played here at the wrong time, Like Douglas
- 34:26Speaker 1: if he played here like during the Edeman.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Years and like he would have fucking flourished, right.
- 34:30Speaker 2: But also, like they were talking about it, he's not
- 34:33Speaker 2: an every down player for you because he can't block
- 34:37Speaker 2: because like Ray is bigger than he is, right right,
- 34:41Speaker 2: you know, like so you know, like you he can't block.
- 34:46Speaker 2: You need to do that to be in Ragel's offense,
- 34:48Speaker 2: or even McDaniels offense, you do need to carry your weight.
- 34:52Speaker 2: So he's not an every down guy. So see you later.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Baker was a bad pick. That was a terrible pick.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Welse he got Born. I like Born. If he's just
- 35:04Speaker 2: I like Born. If he's part of the room, right,
- 35:07Speaker 2: like I don't like him. If he's your featured back,
- 35:10Speaker 2: you're going to him eighty times a year, like I
- 35:12Speaker 2: like him. If he's part of the room, I think
- 35:14Speaker 2: he starts a purpose and I think he gets open,
- 35:16Speaker 2: and he's he had a career year under McDaniels. Now,
- 35:20Speaker 2: I am not giving up on Poke. You can't. You can't.
- 35:23Speaker 3: He's twenty two, So what he's.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Twenty They had the worst offensive coaching staff in history
- 35:29Speaker 2: last year. You gave a rookie in his first time,
- 35:33Speaker 2: oh see, a first time wide receiver coach, you know,
- 35:37Speaker 2: like you gave him a senior assistant, Ben mcaduoe that
- 35:41Speaker 2: no one even knew if he was there on game
- 35:42Speaker 2: days or not.
- 35:43Speaker 1: If we need forty two, if we need forty two players,
- 35:45Speaker 1: you're keeping Poke. I know, I know you're not getting
- 35:49Speaker 1: rid of Poke. Like, first of all, it's not even
- 35:50Speaker 1: on the table. He's gonna be on the team next year.
- 35:53Speaker 1: We do no, No, I understand that. But I have zero
- 35:56Speaker 1: faith in him, is my point. Like he did nothing.
- 35:59Speaker 1: He's mentally unstable, he's emotional. He goes on Instagram and
- 36:04Speaker 1: fucking post trip cryptic tweets or whatever you fucking call it,
- 36:08Speaker 1: Like he's just one of these cry babies. You know
- 36:10Speaker 1: you hate Christian Cash just because he paints his nails,
- 36:13Speaker 1: Like this is one of those guys that you rail against.
- 36:15Speaker 2: I don't. I don't disagree with you. I mean you're
- 36:18Speaker 2: talking about and listen, you know what, like I I
- 36:22Speaker 2: if you look at his wat like college tape, he
- 36:24Speaker 2: was a beast, and I think that's what they wanted.
- 36:27Speaker 2: They thought he was gonna be able to do.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Yet the other wide receiver from Washington played well this year.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Oh I don't even know what team he's.
- 36:35Speaker 3: On or what his name is. But I didn't mean that.
- 36:41Speaker 2: No, But here's the thing, Like you can't give him up.
- 36:44Speaker 2: And fun fact, this is how sad it was. He
- 36:48Speaker 2: let our wide receiver room in touchdowns.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Yeah that's crazy too too. Yeah yeah, but you love
- 36:54Speaker 3: them all, you love them all.
- 36:55Speaker 2: Come on, listen, I listened, I'd get rid of I'd
- 36:57Speaker 2: get rid of Baker Douglas if you try. If you
- 37:02Speaker 2: traded Kendrick Bourne.
- 37:04Speaker 3: I would cry, I keep him Booty.
- 37:07Speaker 2: I think no, I think he's gone too.
- 37:10Speaker 1: All right, So you're revamping the whole room basically, So
- 37:13Speaker 1: that makes Poke or Born you're number one wide receiver
- 37:16Speaker 1: going into the No.
- 37:17Speaker 2: I think we go out and we draft a wide.
- 37:19Speaker 2: We can draft wide receivers.
- 37:21Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's proven that we cannot Chris. We
- 37:24Speaker 1: cannot draft wide receivers. That's why I will pay extra
- 37:27Speaker 1: to get T Higgins in here or sign Deebo off
- 37:30Speaker 1: the street.
- 37:31Speaker 3: They release them, I forget.
- 37:33Speaker 2: So they're supposedly cutting him as a June first cut,
- 37:36Speaker 2: so he canna agree to a deal. He's just technically not.
- 37:40Speaker 2: His cap number doesn't come off their books till after
- 37:45Speaker 2: June first. But here's the thing. I would take Debo
- 37:49Speaker 2: at fifteen over T Higgins at forty.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Fine, all right, we're an agreement on that. Yeah, yeah,
- 37:54Speaker 3: for sure.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Like, here's our biggest problem to which
- 37:58Speaker 2: happens in football. For some reason, we're the least desirable
- 38:04Speaker 2: state to live in. Like the weather sucks. The taxes
- 38:11Speaker 2: are through the roof. We're also in the least desirable
- 38:16Speaker 2: situation division to play in because you have four teams. One.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Miami has no state income tax, New York has a
- 38:29Speaker 2: nine percent one and Massachusetts has a millionaire's tax of
- 38:33Speaker 2: ten percent. So in every game and the way the NFL,
- 38:37Speaker 2: the way every athlete gets paid. So if you play
- 38:41Speaker 2: in Buffalo, your tax as if you live in Buffalo,
- 38:46Speaker 2: So it's like your tax whatever that city or state
- 38:50Speaker 2: tax is at. So for someone from the Dolphins, they
- 38:56Speaker 2: come to Massachusetts, they lose ten percent of their their
- 39:00Speaker 2: pay check, whereas in Miami you keep it.
- 39:03Speaker 1: So yeah, but a lot of these, a lot of
- 39:05Speaker 1: these contracts kind of include that though you know we're
- 39:08Speaker 1: gonna pay you the extra ten percent that you would
- 39:11Speaker 1: have gotten in Miami, we're gonna bump it up here.
- 39:13Speaker 1: So it breaks even like those those this is what
- 39:15Speaker 1: agents are for. They're the ones that figure all that
- 39:17Speaker 1: shit out. We've gotten free agents here before. We had
- 39:20Speaker 1: a twenty year run here. I don't want to hear
- 39:22Speaker 1: the weather and the like. There's plenty of bad weather
- 39:25Speaker 1: teams out there. California, by far, is probably the worst
- 39:29Speaker 1: fucking state to play in, tax wise, you lose half
- 39:33Speaker 1: your check. But yet the Rams get people. San Francisco
- 39:36Speaker 1: gets people. And you can say it's the weather, that's fine,
- 39:40Speaker 1: but like it's.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Also LA is also a more desirable city than Foxborough.
- 39:45Speaker 3: Oh no, that's not arguable.
- 39:46Speaker 1: I get that, But like there's only thirty two teams
- 39:50Speaker 1: and every year with a salary. So see, now this
- 39:53Speaker 1: is where we get into the baseball aspect of the Dodgers.
- 39:56Speaker 1: You know, their salary cap, so not every player can
- 39:59Speaker 1: just go to L A and B. I mean, watching
- 40:02Speaker 1: what the Dodgers are doing, like I think I said,
- 40:04Speaker 1: I might have texted this to you. I'm like, there's
- 40:06Speaker 1: gonna be literally all stars players that aren't getting playing time,
- 40:09Speaker 1: you know, because they's just so fucking deep and stacked.
- 40:12Speaker 1: It's crazy, you know, But like I don't know, I
- 40:15Speaker 1: just don't always buy that. You know, it makes a
- 40:17Speaker 1: lot of sense, Chris, it does, but like I just
- 40:19Speaker 1: think the agents will negotiate the money part and then
- 40:23Speaker 1: there just aren't manys.
- 40:25Speaker 3: You know, even with baseball.
- 40:26Speaker 1: You look at it like a guy like Bregman is
- 40:28Speaker 1: only down to three teams, Like there's only three teams
- 40:30Speaker 1: that want Bregman. Nobody wanted Pete Alonzo. Nobody like, It's
- 40:35Speaker 1: just I think.
- 40:36Speaker 2: That one was different. Like Pete Alonso, everybody knew he
- 40:38Speaker 2: wanted to go back to the match.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'll just throw it out.
- 40:43Speaker 2: I'm sure Toronto called him.
- 40:46Speaker 3: A Blue Jay fan.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Your your whole offseason, you had that young coret like
- 40:53Speaker 2: Bigio Guerrero and Bishet Like, you had this young core
- 40:59Speaker 2: come up that everybody was like really excited about. And
- 41:05Speaker 2: Derrera are gonna walk next year because they're free agents
- 41:08Speaker 2: or you're gonna have to trade them, And the only
- 41:10Speaker 2: one that took your money was Anthony Santander. Do you
- 41:14Speaker 2: imagine being a fan of that team?
- 41:16Speaker 1: I I, uh, well, I mean I don't think Canadians
- 41:19Speaker 1: give a fuck. To be honest with you, I bet
- 41:21Speaker 1: I've been to a game in Toronto. Like they don't care.
- 41:24Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's a night out in the town.
- 41:26Speaker 1: They're not watching the game, it's something to do.
- 41:28Speaker 2: It's yeah, and it's like there's no hockey on tonight,
- 41:31Speaker 2: let's go to a baseball.
- 41:32Speaker 3: Right exactly exactly.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And it's a pretty cool city too, But uh, I
- 41:36Speaker 1: don't know, you have to suck to be in Toronto.
- 41:38Speaker 3: Look at diehard Toronto fan, like, like.
- 41:41Speaker 1: You know how well we kind of been Toronto the
- 41:43Speaker 1: last three years.
- 41:44Speaker 3: We're in on everybody, you know.
- 41:47Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, up until this winter, like
- 41:51Speaker 2: we could relate to them.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Right, that's a perfect segue to get into the Red
- 41:56Speaker 1: Sox talk.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, So let's just.
- 41:59Speaker 1: Get right to it. You told me their offseason was
- 42:01Speaker 1: an A plus.
- 42:03Speaker 2: What a surprise?
- 42:04Speaker 3: Do you care to amend that a little bit? Or
- 42:06Speaker 3: are you still sticking with a plus?
- 42:09Speaker 2: No? I I think it's an A. A plus is aggressive,
- 42:13Speaker 2: but I think it's an A. My Bregman was a
- 42:17Speaker 2: great move. I mean, there's just no way around it.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Bregman was a great move. He's what we needed. We
- 42:22Speaker 2: needed a right handed bat. I know, like everybody says
- 42:25Speaker 2: he has some tough home road splits, but you signed
- 42:29Speaker 2: players for like he's playing eighty one games at Fenway,
- 42:33Speaker 2: so his splits are perfect, right, and he's not bad.
- 42:37Speaker 2: He's not bad on the road. But I think that
- 42:41Speaker 2: was a great move. I think. So here's the thing
- 42:45Speaker 2: you have. You still have all this what are they
- 42:48Speaker 2: called blue chip talent? Yeah, you still have all of it, right,
- 42:51Speaker 2: you have haf Aela in uh center fields. You have
- 42:55Speaker 2: Duranon left, you have a Braywan right now, you're going
- 43:01Speaker 2: it's gone. I can't see it ending this way, but
- 43:05Speaker 2: it's going. Cassis Bragmant story Devers. I don't know. I
- 43:11Speaker 2: don't know that Devers does anything but DH, because.
- 43:19Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna happen sooner than later, that's for sure.
- 43:23Speaker 2: It has to. I mean, if any of these kids
- 43:25Speaker 2: are like.
- 43:27Speaker 3: But we have to get rid of fucking whate. His
- 43:30Speaker 3: name is the Jap guy, Yoshida, Yoshida.
- 43:34Speaker 2: He has to go. But but if you look at
- 43:37Speaker 2: all this right, like, I just don't see how Devers
- 43:40Speaker 2: doesn't become your DH. You put Bragmant at third, story
- 43:42Speaker 2: at short or if like and you flip it right,
- 43:46Speaker 2: what if Christian Campbell's better than Mayor, Miss Marcella Mayor,
- 43:50Speaker 2: then story stays at short and Campbell play second. If
- 43:54Speaker 2: Mayor ends up being better and comes to the majors quicker,
- 43:59Speaker 2: Mayor's plays short stop and story goes to second, right, Like,
- 44:02Speaker 2: it's a good problem to have. There's only one. There's
- 44:06Speaker 2: only one problem. Story is in what year going into
- 44:10Speaker 2: year three or four? He's going to year three. Yeah, yeah, three,
- 44:14Speaker 2: there's three there's three years left and he's played like
- 44:17Speaker 2: seventy games for us.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Right, I mean, that's would surprise us if he's you know,
- 44:23Speaker 1: we get an update in April twelfth. Story you know,
- 44:27Speaker 1: Story fractures his shoulder slide first, what.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Was it last year? It was like the second game
- 44:32Speaker 2: of the year. Yeah, he dope for a ball and
- 44:34Speaker 2: like basically that was it.
- 44:36Speaker 3: Yep, I don't know.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I'm actually excited this year. I got you know, heading
- 44:40Speaker 1: a Florida in a couple of weeks. It's going to
- 44:41Speaker 1: catch them spring training games down there. Uh, it's really
- 44:44Speaker 1: been you know what's crazy is is Cora, has you
- 44:48Speaker 1: kind of kept the glue together in that clubhouse to
- 44:51Speaker 1: be a five hundred team. You know, like they probably
- 44:54Speaker 1: had no business. If they had a different manager, they'd
- 44:56Speaker 1: probably be a you know, seventy win team and not
- 44:59Speaker 1: an eighty win team. And now, you know, you could
- 45:02Speaker 1: probably go back to the last two years and look
- 45:04Speaker 1: at look at it. You know a handful of games
- 45:06Speaker 1: or ten games that you know, you know, if you know,
- 45:09Speaker 1: if we could be able to shut down the guys
- 45:11Speaker 1: in the ninth or you know, these plays didn't happen.
- 45:14Speaker 3: Next thing.
- 45:14Speaker 1: You know, we're eighty eight wins, ninety wins. You know,
- 45:16Speaker 1: we're creeping into the playoffs. And I think now that
- 45:19Speaker 1: we have the players and hopefully the defense to not
- 45:22Speaker 1: just give up, I.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Think only thing that dropped that doesn't make it an
- 45:27Speaker 2: a plus. I really, I really don't know how you
- 45:32Speaker 2: can consider yourself a quality like a full team when
- 45:37Speaker 2: you have a role as Chapman and Liam. Liam Hendrix
- 45:41Speaker 2: is your closers once thirty six, once thirty five coming
- 45:44Speaker 2: off Tommy Johnny missed all of last year, but now
- 45:48Speaker 2: he's just and I understand, guys come back from it.
- 45:50Speaker 2: It's I understand, but he's thirty five.
- 45:52Speaker 1: It's usually a year after though, right, like a year
- 45:56Speaker 1: to build them back up. But but you know, do
- 46:00Speaker 1: we assume Hendrix is going to be the closer? That's
- 46:03Speaker 1: what they said, right, And and Chapman's gonna set up
- 46:07Speaker 1: yep or be more situational, you know, left he's coming
- 46:10Speaker 1: in the seventh You could see him in the seventh
- 46:12Speaker 1: or eighth inning. Uh, you know, But then that's what
- 46:14Speaker 1: the deadline's for. You know, we're winning games and we
- 46:17Speaker 1: can't lock down a closer. All right, we got we
- 46:20Speaker 1: got so much shit to go get one. I mean
- 46:22Speaker 1: that we don't want to fucking Jeff Bagwell deal, but
- 46:25Speaker 1: it's gonna be on the table.
- 46:28Speaker 2: We seem to find middle relievers, you know what I mean,
- 46:31Speaker 2: like we we seem to We'll find somebody somewhere. Yeah,
- 46:35Speaker 2: you know, and then they're they're I mean, they're talking
- 46:38Speaker 2: about a six man rotation. I mopped this out, So
- 46:42Speaker 2: this is just it's Croche. I think is opening day, right.
- 46:46Speaker 3: I would assume yeah, yeah.
- 46:48Speaker 2: Then Hawk, Bao, Buehler and Giolito, Cutter Crawford started thirty
- 46:57Speaker 2: three games for US last year. But I I don't
- 47:01Speaker 2: see any of those guys going to the bullpen.
- 47:04Speaker 1: No, but again, how many times when they get through
- 47:09Speaker 1: that rotation without someone getting hurt?
- 47:12Speaker 2: It has already got a shoulders.
- 47:13Speaker 3: Right, Hawk's good to miss him some games.
- 47:18Speaker 2: Nobody knows what Croche I.
- 47:20Speaker 3: Mean, Gelo, what missed all last year? Right?
- 47:23Speaker 2: Yeah? Like Crochet like he only played I mean they
- 47:28Speaker 2: shut him down basically last year. So does he have
- 47:31Speaker 2: two hundred endings in him?
- 47:32Speaker 3: Right?
- 47:33Speaker 2: He's already had Tommy Johns. So we got down out
- 47:35Speaker 2: of the way.
- 47:36Speaker 1: I think Crawford could be the glue to that that
- 47:38Speaker 1: whole staff, I mean, because you know he's the first
- 47:42Speaker 1: one up when someone goes down. Yeah, and we know,
- 47:45Speaker 1: I mean he's he's like he had some really phenomenal starts.
- 47:48Speaker 3: Last year, Like, holy shit, this guy's pretty good.
- 47:51Speaker 2: You know. He lost he lost sixteen game. He was
- 47:53Speaker 2: nine and sixteen last year.
- 47:55Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was though it.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Was like four and it was like, which is what
- 48:01Speaker 2: we were growing up, Like.
- 48:02Speaker 3: Anything under three was great.
- 48:05Speaker 2: Now anything like under four is considered great. But he
- 48:09Speaker 2: but he also he also won six innings in each start,
- 48:12Speaker 2: like you trade that right, Like yeah, you know, and.
- 48:17Speaker 1: He had some like complete games with like eighty five pitches.
- 48:21Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Holy shit, how many games do they win?
- 48:26Speaker 3: Uh? I didn't look at the Vegas odds.
- 48:31Speaker 2: I was like it was like eighty three.
- 48:34Speaker 3: Yeah, the way over that.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Once we traded for Crochet.
- 48:38Speaker 1: I don't know what it is man with Bragman, they
- 48:39Speaker 1: probably Bragman's probably three games. So if it's probably eighty six,
- 48:44Speaker 1: I think they're a ninety one team. If you know,
- 48:47Speaker 1: all hell doesn't break loose as it has been the
- 48:49Speaker 1: last three years with injuries.
- 48:52Speaker 2: If we don't. We don't have any if our infield.
- 48:55Speaker 1: If our infield stays the relatively healthy all year, you know,
- 49:00Speaker 1: and then we're in first or in second at the break,
- 49:05Speaker 1: I mean we could go we could go shop, and
- 49:06Speaker 1: we have the we have the ability to shop, so
- 49:09Speaker 1: I mean we do. You could see the n eighty
- 49:12Speaker 1: eight win team become a ninety five win team, you know,
- 49:16Speaker 1: after the after the after the break or after the
- 49:19Speaker 1: you know, the trade deadline.
- 49:21Speaker 2: Well, I mean they've already happened. Two things have already
- 49:24Speaker 2: happened this offseason. You and I had given up on.
- 49:27Speaker 2: They traded a prospect for a front line guy. They
- 49:31Speaker 2: traded Kyle TiAl for you know which you never thought
- 49:34Speaker 2: they trade prospects anyone out and spend.
- 49:40Speaker 3: A little bit.
- 49:42Speaker 2: That's a good. That's a good. That's spending forty million
- 49:46Speaker 2: a year for three years, and.
- 49:48Speaker 3: He's probably gonna opt out after one.
- 49:51Speaker 2: I bet he doesn't.
- 49:52Speaker 1: Oh if he fucking if he rakes at Fenway, he
- 49:54Speaker 1: sure will. He'll cash it on that.
- 49:58Speaker 2: I think he stays. I don't know, I don't I
- 50:01Speaker 2: don't see listen, I don't see six years.
- 50:03Speaker 1: But I think, well, and then we signed three guys
- 50:05Speaker 1: to one year deals. You'd be fucking kaya what a
- 50:08Speaker 1: Bueler goes eighteen and six this year. We're not keeping them.
- 50:13Speaker 3: We won't. We don't have the money though.
- 50:15Speaker 1: There's no way he's going, probably back to the Dodgers.
- 50:18Speaker 2: By the way. By the way, have we talked before
- 50:20Speaker 2: we get finished with base? Did we touch on fucking
- 50:23Speaker 2: Henry's wife putting that post out?
- 50:25Speaker 3: Oh?
- 50:25Speaker 1: Him smoking the cigar like like like yeah, like he's
- 50:29Speaker 1: the fucking guy.
- 50:30Speaker 2: Yeah, like he did something right.
- 50:33Speaker 3: Well, he got he got, he got immediately trashed for that.
- 50:37Speaker 2: Oh it was amazing.
- 50:39Speaker 3: I mean, the guy has no idea what's going on.
- 50:42Speaker 2: I will say this also, I'm gonna tell you this,
- 50:46Speaker 2: and I said it when it got signed, that Dever's
- 50:49Speaker 2: contract was bad before the ink was dry.
- 50:53Speaker 1: Uh yeah, But I mean you can say that about
- 50:55Speaker 1: a lot of contracts.
- 50:56Speaker 2: It's not it's not about the money. It's not about
- 50:59Speaker 2: the money. It's about the fucking eleven years you gave them. Yeah,
- 51:04Speaker 2: but you know, I don't think San Diego. You don't
- 51:06Speaker 2: think San Diego, which they didn't sign Boguarts.
- 51:11Speaker 1: It's just what I just said, like, yeah, there's a
- 51:13Speaker 1: million contracts like this out there, you know, but at
- 51:16Speaker 1: the end of the day, you kept your homegrown talent.
- 51:19Speaker 1: I wish you did it with Mookie Betts, you know, well,
- 51:23Speaker 1: of course, yeah, in hindsight, for sure, I would have.
- 51:27Speaker 1: I would have loved to keep both of them. We like,
- 51:29Speaker 1: let's not fucking let's call spadespad here. We both wanted
- 51:32Speaker 1: boguards to stay. We didn't care, we did, you know,
- 51:35Speaker 1: we were like to keep them.
- 51:37Speaker 2: I think we did. When the rumors were like seven
- 51:40Speaker 2: to ten, like we were both like, okay, I'll give
- 51:42Speaker 2: them that. But when it went eleven.
- 51:46Speaker 1: No, when when the contract was signed, we were like,
- 51:49Speaker 1: all right, we kind of gotta let him go at
- 51:51Speaker 1: that price.
- 51:52Speaker 3: But like we're still sadd he left.
- 51:55Speaker 1: I mean, these are guys we all won championships with
- 51:58Speaker 1: and they're all gone except for Devers, ever stayed. My
- 52:02Speaker 1: one complaint with Devers is I don't think he's made
- 52:04Speaker 1: that next step yet in his career. He's still pretty young.
- 52:06Speaker 1: What's like twenty seven, I'm guessing, yeah.
- 52:09Speaker 2: But that's what that's why, that's why it drives me nuts.
- 52:11Speaker 2: Like he's not in shape, but.
- 52:13Speaker 1: A lot of these players don't and baseball is different.
- 52:15Speaker 1: A lot of these players don't really hit their stride
- 52:17Speaker 1: till they I mean, they don't get into the major
- 52:18Speaker 1: still they're twenty three, twenty four, So a lot of
- 52:21Speaker 1: them only hit their stride till their late twenties, early thirties,
- 52:24Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of them can play until
- 52:25Speaker 1: they're thirty eight to forty at a high you know,
- 52:27Speaker 1: at a pretty high clip, you know, especially.
- 52:29Speaker 3: Hitting home runs.
- 52:30Speaker 2: I think he'll be a d.
- 52:32Speaker 1: He's got he's got to be. He's got to be
- 52:34Speaker 1: because he's not an All star third baseman. He's not
- 52:37Speaker 1: a gold Glove third baseman. He's he's serviceable at third.
- 52:42Speaker 2: He makes the All Star Game, you know, as a
- 52:44Speaker 2: third baseman.
- 52:45Speaker 1: No, I know, I well, I meant gold glove. I
- 52:48Speaker 1: mean defensively. Defensively, he's not an All Star third baseman.
- 52:51Speaker 1: He's an All Star, but not defensively.
- 52:54Speaker 2: That's because of his bad yeah, oh yeah.
- 52:56Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
- 52:57Speaker 1: And you know, I think I think now he's in
- 53:00Speaker 1: year three of his contract, right yep, so he's settled in.
- 53:06Speaker 1: He's not you know, there's no pressure on him now.
- 53:08Speaker 1: Now he might actually have bats around him to you know,
- 53:10Speaker 1: get him some protection.
- 53:13Speaker 3: And you know, I'm just waiting for him.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Like I hate to compare anyone a big poppy, but
- 53:17Speaker 1: if he's gonna end up being a DH, he's gonna
- 53:19Speaker 1: have to start hitting thirty five forty home runs a year,
- 53:22Speaker 1: as you know, Like that's what we need to expect
- 53:24Speaker 1: out of him.
- 53:25Speaker 2: If that's the only way you're contributing. You have to
- 53:28Speaker 2: hit three hundred. You have to have one hundred RBIs,
- 53:30Speaker 2: you have to have forty, right, you have to because
- 53:32Speaker 2: otherwise you're useless, right, agreed, And you know what I mean,
- 53:37Speaker 2: you're overpaid.
- 53:38Speaker 3: Right, So I mean, does he make that step? I
- 53:44Speaker 3: think he can. I don't. I don't rule it out.
- 53:47Speaker 3: You know, he's he's got a good eye, he takes walks.
- 53:51Speaker 2: You know. They asked today about Bragman and playing second base,
- 53:56Speaker 2: and he was noncommittal. He said, we have to see
- 53:59Speaker 2: how our roster is constructed before we commit to anyone
- 54:02Speaker 2: in any position, right, And I was like I kind
- 54:04Speaker 2: of took that as what, Yeah, But then they showed
- 54:08Speaker 2: they showed it. Uh, they were showing videos of Bragmant
- 54:11Speaker 2: turning two from second base, so.
- 54:16Speaker 1: They got the whole spring training. I mean, never know,
- 54:17Speaker 1: like I said, people get hurt in spring training. It's crazy.
- 54:20Speaker 1: I can't believe spring training so fucking long. I mean literally,
- 54:23Speaker 1: they played one hundred and sixty two games and they
- 54:25Speaker 1: played like forty five. I mean they don't play every day,
- 54:27Speaker 1: but they played like forty games in spring training.
- 54:30Speaker 2: The problem with spring The thing with spring training is
- 54:33Speaker 2: is that you're lucky if the starters played three innings
- 54:37Speaker 2: right right, like so, so the first spring training game they.
- 54:41Speaker 1: Don't even play. Yeah, I know, That's what I'm worried about.
- 54:45Speaker 1: I'm going to like really early spring training games. I'm
- 54:47Speaker 1: just I'm just hoping we get uh Saturday March first,
- 54:52Speaker 1: they play Minnesota, their crosstown rival down there.
- 54:56Speaker 2: Yeah. And then like thirty times.
- 54:59Speaker 1: It's yeah yea, they're in the same city, they're in
- 55:01Speaker 1: both in Fort Myers, yeah. Uh. And then they play
- 55:06Speaker 1: the Mets on Sunday in March second. So I hope
- 55:08Speaker 1: and see a little Wan Sodo action. Maybe could be
- 55:11Speaker 1: one of his first games as a Met. We got
- 55:14Speaker 1: really good seats. We're pumped. I've been the Jet Blue
- 55:17Speaker 1: Park once. It's awesome.
- 55:20Speaker 2: I've been a couple of times because I used to
- 55:22Speaker 2: go see Kathy. I used to go visit County and
- 55:24Speaker 2: then we go to the games. It's actually in the hood.
- 55:26Speaker 2: It's a little weird. It's like this beautiful ballpark and
- 55:29Speaker 2: this like you take the wrong street and you're in
- 55:32Speaker 2: the wrong.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's once. It's a straight shot in. It's
- 55:35Speaker 1: not like Daniel's Parkway or whatever that's right there.
- 55:38Speaker 2: But the inside, the inside is beautiful.
- 55:40Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
- 55:43Speaker 2: My first time ever going there was really early two thousands,
- 55:48Speaker 2: and I thought the coolest thing in the world is
- 55:50Speaker 2: as you're walking up to stadium, there's one of those
- 55:53Speaker 2: old Boston Globe newspaper holders. You could literally buy the
- 55:58Speaker 2: Boston Globe right out front. I thought that was pretty
- 56:00Speaker 2: that was that was pretty cool. Yeah, but I don't
- 56:03Speaker 2: think you buy newspapers anymore. I don't even know there
- 56:06Speaker 2: is newspapers anymore.
- 56:07Speaker 3: I get the New York Posts to live in my
- 56:09Speaker 3: house every day.
- 56:10Speaker 2: Do you really?
- 56:11Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think the pictures I sent you
- 56:12Speaker 1: are from? Those are articles of reading on my couch?
- 56:16Speaker 2: Okay?
- 56:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:21Speaker 1: They were talking about the Red Sox Yankees revivalry could be,
- 56:24Speaker 1: you know, start to get renewed a little bit, you know,
- 56:26Speaker 1: with let's just go over the a f C or
- 56:28Speaker 1: a f C A L East here. Uh, I gotta
- 56:31Speaker 1: I gotta say sorry, but the Yankees are the favors
- 56:34Speaker 1: to win.
- 56:35Speaker 3: They gotta be.
- 56:36Speaker 1: Although although they you know they see see this is
- 56:41Speaker 1: what this what kills me about being a Red Sox
- 56:43Speaker 1: fan is we laughed when they lost Soto, but then
- 56:46Speaker 1: they go out and sign like four major free agents.
- 56:48Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well, well, I mean.
- 56:50Speaker 2: They got first, they have they I supposedly they're playing
- 56:55Speaker 2: Bellinger in center and move a judge to right.
- 56:58Speaker 3: Maybe I can't. I don't know why judge the center
- 57:00Speaker 3: fieldern anyway, but right exactly.
- 57:03Speaker 2: But they I guess they have a whole at third
- 57:06Speaker 2: because it's going to be DJ le Mayhew's corpse.
- 57:09Speaker 3: Yep.
- 57:09Speaker 2: I mean he's like they're Anthony Rizzard.
- 57:12Speaker 1: He might not even make it out of spring training.
- 57:14Speaker 1: I mean he is, I don't know what happened to him.
- 57:16Speaker 1: Weird may Yeah, he's like our age, I know, but
- 57:20Speaker 1: he's well, he's not that old.
- 57:22Speaker 2: He's like thirty seven. He's like thirty seven, thirty eight.
- 57:25Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's one of those he hit the cliff,
- 57:28Speaker 3: he jumped off.
- 57:29Speaker 2: Yeah, he fell off and Max Kellerman. I gotta think
- 57:34Speaker 2: the the I gotta think they're the favorite Baltimore like
- 57:39Speaker 2: they were. They won one hundred games, went to the playoffs,
- 57:42Speaker 2: then they won like ninety one, didn't make the playoffs.
- 57:47Speaker 2: Then they signed Tyler O'Neil. They have such great young
- 57:52Speaker 2: talent throughout that whole organization. I mean, granted, that's what
- 57:55Speaker 2: happens when you pick number one overall for twenty years. Yeah,
- 57:59Speaker 2: they have. They have such great talent. But are they
- 58:03Speaker 2: better than us with our with our pitching staff and
- 58:06Speaker 2: our and like the veteran additions.
- 58:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
- 58:10Speaker 2: So I think you're fighting, you're fighting for second place.
- 58:12Speaker 2: I think Tampa takes a step back. We always think
- 58:16Speaker 2: they take a step back. Then they come out and
- 58:17Speaker 2: win ninety games, right, But like they don't have a
- 58:20Speaker 2: Rosa Raina anymore. Obviously Wander Franco is not coming back.
- 58:23Speaker 3: Nope. But they got Junior Camonaro coming out.
- 58:27Speaker 1: You know, they got some good you know, they always,
- 58:29Speaker 1: like you said, they always have good talent in the
- 58:31Speaker 1: farm system and they play well.
- 58:33Speaker 2: Like was it Middlebrooks was telling us, Like they bump
- 58:36Speaker 2: when they need to bunt, they go the other way.
- 58:38Speaker 2: You know what I mean, the fundamentals, they do all
- 58:40Speaker 2: that stuff and then uh, I mean Toronto, I think
- 58:43Speaker 2: is the basement? Is that fair to say?
- 58:47Speaker 3: Yea, they have one good player too, I like, I like,
- 58:55Speaker 3: I'm that high in him.
- 58:57Speaker 2: He's another one, but another one. They spend all that
- 58:59Speaker 2: money on George Ringer and he hasn't played.
- 59:01Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good. I mean he's a good player too.
- 59:06Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 59:07Speaker 1: I think the Red Sox, like I said, over ninety
- 59:09Speaker 1: hopefully and uh, wildcard team?
- 59:11Speaker 2: And do you think they compete for the wild card
- 59:14Speaker 2: or the wild card playing? Because there was like a
- 59:18Speaker 2: there was like a seven game difference last year.
- 59:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Well the playing is what three
- 59:24Speaker 3: game series? Now?
- 59:26Speaker 2: No? I thought it was one.
- 59:28Speaker 3: No, they get rid of that. They got rid of that.
- 59:30Speaker 2: Oh they did they get rid of that past year?
- 59:32Speaker 3: Was it's uh.
- 59:34Speaker 2: Because you guys went to the best one and was
- 59:36Speaker 2: it twenty one? Yeah, guys went to that one way
- 59:38Speaker 2: they beat then they threw was it they threw judge.
- 59:41Speaker 3: Judge out at home?
- 59:42Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I think it's each what is it seven?
- 59:50Speaker 1: How many teams make it?
- 59:51Speaker 3: Now? Gosh, I wish we looked this up.
- 59:53Speaker 5: There's what there's three division winners, Yeah, two wild card
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: teams and a wildcard playing team.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the top two get
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: to buy, and then.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's two.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Three game series, and then and then it's the A
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: l DS the division.
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: The division series is three out of.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: Five, and then it's something like that.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: I know they got a right away with the one
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: game playoff.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: So it's either six or seven teams. I can't I mean,
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: I can't see I'll put it this way. I can't
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: see us not being in the fighting for that up
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: until the end.
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: I think we're good enough. I think we're good enough
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: to win the first wild card, like that first series,
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: the three out of five. I think we're good enough
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: to like go home and like win that and be
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: ready for whoever else, ladies and then comes. I could
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: see us do that, and I can also see us
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: being in the plane. But I can't. I can't see
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: us in October being ten games out, no one going
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: to Fendly.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest key this year
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: is winning at home.
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: We have we have lost that home dominance. I don't
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: know where it went.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: I mean it's also health. If story plays one hundred
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: and fifty games or like one hundred and forty games,
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: we're good, you know if. I mean, however you feel
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: about cass Is, he gets hurt every year, so like
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: if he could stay healthy.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: Well we know how you feel about him.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't stand him, but like that's a bat
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: in the lineup you need. So I don't know, I
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: think we'll be in it to the end.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the first year in a while where
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: you know, we got a little excitement heading into UH
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: spring training and we actually made some solid moves. We
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: got a first year GM were alex core. We got
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: a lot of the good things. Point o way, we
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: still have the worst owner in sports. But other than that.
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: But but here's the thing, they're actually a topic again. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: they did a whole show today on EEI. It was Bradford,
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Lou Maloney. They had a couple other guys on Boston
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: Sports Baseball Reporters. They had a couple of those guys
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: on It's like a thing again. They were the Greg
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: Hill Show is going down this week, like they're they're
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: they're a thing again.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: I mean, it's Boston Sports radio. What the fuck else
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: I gonna talk about?
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: I mean, the Celtics are pretty good, yeah, I mean,
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: but like the Patriots are the Patriots are year round
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: thing again. No, but what I'm saying is is like
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: the Red Sox now they're they're a thing again. They're
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: being talked about again. But it's because of what they've done,
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: not what they haven't done, which is a change from
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: the last few years.
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: I'm starting to get worried. Now we have all this
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: momentum and we're probably.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: Just gonna fucking come out the gates fucking two and twelve.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: All right, No, I'm excited. I am.
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: This is our first year we actually, you know, since
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: doing the pot, since I started my podcast at you know,
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: the last three years have just been all right, well
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: we did nothing again this offseason.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: And when you started your podcast, though, didn't we come
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: down and do a talk about Core coming back, because
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: wasn't it They can't he came back after that one
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: year off.
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: Yeah, this is was.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: I mean, it was like a mutual parting of the way. Yeah.
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: It was basically like baseball and the Red Sox were like,
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: sit it out a year, you'll be back, right, and
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: then we talked about how good they were, and that
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: was the year that all of a sudden, was that
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: twenty one.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: That was twenty twenty one.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: You guys went to that. You guys went to that
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: game in door das Berger King seventy dollars, Yes, McDonald's,
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: but yes, which was right across the street from that's.
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: So that's so that's what we're running it back then
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: in two weeks in Florida. So we'll see, uh see
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: what kind of mayhem we can get ourselves into. We're
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: gonna leave the kids at home at night and take
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: uber out downtown with Cape Coral.
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: They call it Cape Coma.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: Because nothing goes on down there unless you go into
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Fort Myers and there's some there's some action down there.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: I won last quick little sports thing, and we'll get
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: into a little Trump and then we'll get to my
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: deuce for the week.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: So as I'm sitting here, I got on the.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: TV the Four Nations face off, which is actually a
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: great game. Right now, it's Sweden versus Finland. It's three
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: to three in the third. I mean, they're hitting, they're playing,
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: they're playing. This is the point I wanted to make,
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: is they're playing there, there's passion in this game. It's
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: literally they're gonna do this every two years instead of
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: an All Star Game, and I'm reading that it may
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: be every year if it really you know, starts taking
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: off as something that you know has viewership and enjoyment.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: So where does the end do? Do you know what
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: the new thing they have this year is they have
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: they have a live MC on the court during the game.
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: Who's gonna be Kevin Hart.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: So it's gonna they're trying to do like the Rocker parts.
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: Uh huh.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: He's gonna have a micro microphone on him. He's gonna
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: be on the sidelines and he's gonna be.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: Like they're turning the All Star Game into the End
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: One Tour.
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: Yep.
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: And I don't know how that's gonna. I mean, I
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: didn't I turn it on. The only reason why I
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: turn on is this is like watch Tatum play or
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: Brown or back in the day, you know, like when
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: like we were growing up when Dee Brown was the
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: dunk champ and then those are fun times those guys.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: Those guys played, but they played they're literally is zero.
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: It's a joke. It's like why even play the game?
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: Just do your just do your dunk contest three point
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: contest on a Sunday and and and call it a day, Like,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: are you gonna watch any of that ship tonight?
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: I doubt I doubt it. Yeah, I like the dunk
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: the well first of all. This is what drives me
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: nuts about it too. These guys fucking cried that they
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: didn't have enough time off during All Star week, especially
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: for the guys that have to go to the All
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: Star Game. The eighties and nineties, you would you'd play
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: your last game on Thursday, All Star weekend, and then
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: your first game is Tuesday. These guys have over a
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: week off. Yeah, and and they can't even play hard
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: in that game, like you just you gotta be fucking
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: shitting me, Like this is why the NBA ratings are trash.
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Everyone knows these guys don't care.
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: There's a lot of reasons why they're but yeah, that's
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: definitely one of them.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: Like people know that they don't like, like you're what
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: a guy that was an MVP can't stay healthy, refuses
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: to play, comes out and says I'll never play another
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: back to back and indeed, and you're like, why would
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: people want to watch that? The other thing is style
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: of play, Like why would anyone want to watch? Like
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: I I it was on the radio. I was driving
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: to work and they were like one game the Celtics
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: took forty six threes and only hit sixteen of them.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: There was an Indiana game the other night there was
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: one hundred three point shots in one game attempts one hundred, right, And.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: If you and if you're the best three point shooter
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: in the league or the best three point shooting team,
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: you're at forty one or forty two. So you're telling
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: me and going and watching a sport where six out
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: of every ten shots they're missing.
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is where the analytics come in, because
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: if you can shoot fifty percent from two or forty
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: percent from three, the analytics say shoot the threes. So
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: my biggest I don't I don't like whatever. I don't
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: care that they shoot a lot of threes. You know,
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: there's two detractors that one. My biggest one is like
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: a twenty point lead is no longer safe, Like it's
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: just it's just that like back when we were kids
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: in the score was eighty seven sixty seven in the
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth it's like you can shut off
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: and go go outside and play basketball. Now, it's like,
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: you know, no lead is safe. It's it's just kind
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: of stupid. And then it's like you got a clear
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: lane to the hoop and you just kick it out
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: for three and the dude just like clanks it off
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: the back rim, Like just take the two points.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what sucks about the game
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: is like you literally have a dunk or a layup
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: and you throw the ball out to the three point line, right,
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: take the points. And I think that turns a lot
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: of people off. And I don't even think it's like
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: the whatever the kids fall, it's like old heads or anything. Yeah,
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: it's not even about that. Like you don't have to
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: be the bad boy Pistons to make us old heads happy.
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: But if you're under the basket and you can dunk
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: or hit a layup, you don't. Old heads don't want
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: to see the ball go out to thirty five feet.
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: That's the other thing. These guys are taking shots from
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: the logo like how is that fun? Right? Like, yeah,
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: you might hit one or two and everybody's like, oh,
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: look at his range, but like what about the teny miss?
- 1:09:22Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: Like if Lebron, and I give Lebron a lot of
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: credit for his physique at his age, but if he played,
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: if he played in the nineties, there's no way he'd
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: be playing at this age.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: No way in hell he would have given up by now.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: That's why guys in the nineties were lucky if they
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: played until thirty five, right, thirty five, thirty six. Not
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: only did you play a ton of minutes, it was
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: a physically demanding sport.
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: Yeap.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: These guys can go weeks without being touched.
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: Now and it's light jogging, you know, it's you.
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: Know, yeah, it's just it's a different game, and it's
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: just not like for us old school basketball fans, like
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: it's not enjoyable. Like I, even as much as I
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: hated them, it was at least enjoyable to watch Magic
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: and them run up and down the corner at one
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour.
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: Yeah, showtime was was you know, pretty cool, and it
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: was great back then.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Everybody, they don't understand it was great back then. On
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: CBS on Saturday. On Sundays, the Celtics would play at
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: twelve thirty and the Lakers would play it three. Yep.
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: The games were and I understand the commercials and everything
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: pays for the league, but there wasn't four hours worth
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: of commercials. The games were fast because they were played,
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: there wasn't so many foul calls, and you know, the
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: game was played at a faster pace and they just
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: they just the games were more enjoyable.
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you hate the rafts and how they
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: call these games, you know.
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: And also the other thing is like a guy like
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: Kyrie or a guy like Lebron, well take two dribbles.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: If you can't get by his guy backs himself up
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: to half court like it's all one on one like
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: and like a guy like Harden, like all he does
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: is go between is like sixty two times. Like that's
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: not fun for me to wise and then do a
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: step back and then go to the foul line right
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: Like It's just that's not enjoyable.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: No, I still watch though, you know I do.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: I know you do, I know you do.
- 1:11:28Speaker 3: I mean I'm a Celtics fan.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: I mean, like, this is this is true, this is
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: this could be an you know, if we look back
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: ten years from now, this could be another golden age
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: of the Celtics. I mean, they have that much talent
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: on their team. You hated the Christaps signing trade whatever
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: it was. Uh, you know, you don't even watch the
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: game anymore. I still, you know, I just I'm not
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: saying you got to watch the NBA. But you know,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: the Celtics are obviously one of the biggest culprits of
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: the three point you know agenda in the league.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: You know, but but.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: They just happen to have the guys that can make him.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: You know, if that's the way the game is right now,
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: then that's the way the game is. It's cyclical. It'll
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: come back. I don't think he'll ever be as physical
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: as the past because just everyone's so fucking cunty these
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: days and you can't touch anybody on anything.
- 1:12:14Speaker 3: So I don't know, but you know, it is what
- 1:12:18Speaker 3: it is.
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: I I you know, like Jalen Brown has he doesn't
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: remind me of Kobe Bryant, but he reminds me of
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant in his mid range game, like he will,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: you know, fifteen feet out, rise up, and it's just
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: almost automatic.
- 1:12:36Speaker 3: It's almost automatic. And it sucks because he won't. He won't.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: You know, he should be taking ten to fifteen of
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: those a game. But the two reliant as everyone else
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: is on the three. Like it's crazy. Like there used
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: to be like every year two or three teams that
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: were like just really heavy on three point shooting, and
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: you hated playing them because three point shots are sometimes
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: just like you know, game breakers, bat killers.
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: And now it's like every team does it. I mean,
- 1:13:03Speaker 1: Victor women Yama is the tallest guy in that you know,
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: in the NBA right now, and he's just there was
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: a shooting.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: There was the remember the Dominique Bird dual, like eighty eight,
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: like game seven, Yeah, there, I was watching they like
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: it had like YouTube had like a video like a
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: clip of it, and I'm watching, I'm watching the fourth quarter.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: I'm watching it and Bird hits a three to put
- 1:13:30Speaker 2: us up four, and the place went nuts like they'd
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: never seen it before, right, That's how they were back then.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: Like it was just like I think the teams combined
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: for seven threes in that game.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: Well, the three point line didn't start to what nineteen eighty.
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy nine, Chris Ford to the Boston.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the first guy to hit one. Yeah,
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: so I mean you think about it. Eighty four, eighty five,
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: eighty six. It's only been around for you know, five
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: six years, you know, and it seemed like back then
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: such a far shot.
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: I mean, this is all these guys practice. Now, that's
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: the thing.
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: Like when they're in the gym, they're not practicing post
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: up moves, they're not practicing pick and rolls, they're not
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: practicing any of that shit techniques to rebound. All they're
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: doing is jacking up threes and they're fucking good at it.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: It is what it is, but it completely you know,
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: Colin Coward loves to say how Steph Curry is, you know,
- 1:14:27Speaker 1: is an all timer because he changed the way the
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: game is played. Well should it matter that he The
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: way he changed the game fucking sucks, you know, Like, well.
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: He changed the game and it was great during their run.
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: Yeah, but like now everyone's trying to emulate it, and
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: it makes for a terrible product.
- 1:14:44Speaker 3: I agree with you on that, but I haven't stopped
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: watching though.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: He can do it because he's shot like three that
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: that's that's impressive. You know what else does too? With
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: the three from me? If you want to take like
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: fifty threes, Okay, that's I hate it. But that's one
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: thing it's the fact that some of these guys are
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: taking ten threes from five feet behind the lock, or
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: like the logo like, if you're gonna take up three,
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: take a three. I don't want to see you from
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: the logo planking threes when you could be ten feet closer,
- 1:15:20Speaker 2: or you could go to the rim, you know what
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: I mean?
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: Yeah, logo three should be two seconds left on the
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: clock on the shock clock, you know something like that.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: Nobody's open right ye, Like these guys step into them
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: with like four seconds off the shock clock.
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you doing?
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: That's stupid or like you're whatever. The three point line
- 1:15:39Speaker 2: is thirty feet and these guys are taking thirty five
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: foot threes like it's not even it's not even the
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: highest quality three you can take. Yeah, So like that,
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: that stuff drives me nuts.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: Remember when the Celtics played the Warriors a few years
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: back and I texted you and I said, if you
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: didn't dislike Stefan Curry, now Steph Curry, now you're gonna
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: fucking hate him after this series. And after like one
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: game he texted me back, You're like, holy shit, that
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: dude's an asshole. I go but trying to tell everybody
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: this such a cocky, fucking loser.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: He has the cleanest image. And then there was one
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: I remember that. There was a clip and Marcus Smart
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: was like this guarding him right, and Steph whacked him
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: in the nuts to get open. He like literally like
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: there's a close up. He like whacked him in the nuts,
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: and Marcus Smart did what all men do. It's like
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: eyes classed, right, and he like went down and it's
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: like and he's holding his nuts and it was like,
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: this is the poster child of like Christian married family
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: man and everything, and this is what he's doing, you know.
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: And like the Olympics, like he went on that little
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: three point barage at the end of the gold medal game.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: He does his little night night shit whatever, and I'm like,
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: you guys, see this is where you you you don't understand,
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: Like they don't understand what the dream team was.
- 1:17:07Speaker 3: They I mean they were were they even born yet?
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: You know, like that that team by far as the
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: greatest team ever assembled.
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: I don't care what all these modern teams are. You know,
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: there was it was still a hard game to play,
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: you know.
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Steph, you guys should be blowing out these
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: international people and you're fucking squeaking by Germany by a point.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: Or you know, and he actually win the gold medical grats.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: But like, you'll never be what we were, And you
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: could argue that the Europeans were far behind us back then.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: Sure there's a much better European players now, but when
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: you look watched the Olympics, you know the team that.
- 1:17:44Speaker 3: Uh, what's his name?
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: Jokich's on right, you know him, he's great, But the
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: fucking seven other guys were literally farming three months ago,
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: you know, like they're.
- 1:17:55Speaker 3: Pulling off the farm to come fucking play.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: I don't know, because it's funny because somebody on Twitter,
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: on like a dream team post said that, like the
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: high school All American team is could be any of
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: those Olympic teams that played back then, to which immedia
- 1:18:12Speaker 2: it was like, you have to be the test human
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: being alive.
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: Right, ah man, all right, one little tipp before you
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: get into my douche of the week.
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: Did you know apparently this happened in May.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: I read an article about it today that the Boys
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: Scouts changed their name to Scouting America.
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: I did not know that.
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: All in an effort to make it more inclusive, and
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: they said their admission rates have gone up slightly because
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: now they are not you know, trans kids and everybody now.
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: And I'm like, as I'm reading this article, I'm like
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: time out.
- 1:18:51Speaker 3: Time out, time out. There's a girl Scouts, isn't there?
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, why are there still girl
- 1:19:00Speaker 2: Scout cookie?
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: Wait a second, we have a boy Scouts and a
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: girl Scouts. Trump made it quite clear that there's a
- 1:19:07Speaker 1: boy and a girl. Like, what do you what do
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: you need to change it for?
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. Why do the boy Scouts have
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: to be inclusive?
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Why does it all just come unto one umbrella and
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: just Scouts America?
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: Scouts America male female whatever? You guys?
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Can you know, We'll just rebrand our cookies to uh,
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: But the other thing is like when you look at
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: all these fucking lunatics, like why does everything have to
- 1:19:37Speaker 2: be fair? Like why can't you like why can't we
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: be separate? And I'm not talking about I was.
- 1:19:43Speaker 3: Raised on life isn't fair, you know, like it is,
- 1:19:45Speaker 3: it is what it is. Life's not fair.
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: Life isn't fair, right, But like I never I don't.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: I don't understand why we stopped teaching that. And I
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: don't have a child. I don't have children, and like,
- 1:19:55Speaker 2: I know you have Bray, but like he's older now.
- 1:19:59Speaker 2: But I don't understand when we stopped teaching that life
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: isn't fair, Like everyone doesn't get everything. I have kids.
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: I have twenty six year olds who went home crying
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: the day after the election because they couldn't handle it.
- 1:20:16Speaker 3: Yep.
- 1:20:18Speaker 2: And I have all these people that I work with
- 1:20:21Speaker 2: that's like, well, he shouldn't have to do this, Okay,
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: Well if he wants a roof oar his fucking head,
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: he does. Yeah, you know, like I just I don't
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: understand this.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: The whole society now, the young kids, they're they're just
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: if they if they turned, if they transform their energy
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: that they expend into trying to find an easier way
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: out of the situation they're in by you know, oh,
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: that's this isn't fair.
- 1:20:51Speaker 3: I should deserve this and blah blah blah.
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: Instead take that energy and focus it into the job
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: at hand, whether it may not be fair, the money
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: you make or you know whatever, and and use that
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: energy positively, positively.
- 1:21:08Speaker 3: I don't know. Fuck that whole word up.
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: But you know, for for for yourself to better yourself
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: within the job you currently have and go get promoted
- 1:21:17Speaker 1: and or go or go put your resume out there
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: and get a better job.
- 1:21:20Speaker 3: Like That's that's how it works.
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: That's my thing. I like, I hear all the time.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: I heard this when I worked at the gyms, I
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: heard this, like in my company. Now, if you pay
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: me more, I'll do more. But weren't we raised if
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: you do more to earn more, so they'll pay you more.
- 1:21:39Speaker 3: They're so full of shit.
- 1:21:40Speaker 1: That is the biggest fucking lie they're telling anybody they
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: they know.
- 1:21:44Speaker 3: They just want more for nothing.
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: Dude, where I work now, it's pathetic watching these kids.
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: I got twenty year olds in there that are fucking
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: doing nothing, making great money, great money to fucking do nothing.
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: And when I fucking all them out on them, what
- 1:22:00Speaker 3: do they do.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: They get a union steward to come over and they
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: fucking grieve me. That's the mentality in these fucking places.
- 1:22:08Speaker 2: I know.
- 1:22:09Speaker 3: It's fucking sad.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. Someone said this to me and
- 1:22:13Speaker 2: it has it has to be at least five years
- 1:22:15Speaker 2: ago now. It all went wrong when everyone got a trophy. Yeah,
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: because there was no more winning or losing, right, And
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: I said this to a parent. I was at a
- 1:22:26Speaker 2: kids soccer game and they lost nine to one in
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: the first game, eliminated from the tournament, and the kids
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: walking towards me with a medal on yeah, And I
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: looked and I said, what the fuck does that? You
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: guys lost, like in that nine to one. What's the
- 1:22:42Speaker 2: metal and it says participating? And I literally looked at
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: them and I was like, why do you guys even
- 1:22:49Speaker 2: keep scoring? And when you register the kid, why not
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: just hand them a trophy and be like, hey, show
- 1:22:54Speaker 2: up at this time? Why is their practices? Why can't
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: you do anything?
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: Learn?
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: Learn to lose, Learn to lose. It's okay to lose.
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes just lost, you know, he lost. Tom Brady
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: lost a lot of Super Bowls and ended up being
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: the legend.
- 1:23:10Speaker 2: You said, like when Kobe lost. When Kobe would lose,
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: it would drive him to get better, right, Jordan. When
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: Jordan came back after playing baseball in ninety five and
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: he wasn't in shape and they lost to Orlando, he
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: made it his mission to come back even better. Yep, Bird,
- 1:23:27Speaker 2: what did bird do. I can't wait till the season's
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: over so I can start practicing her next year. Like
- 1:23:31Speaker 2: magic did you guys all took failure to get better,
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: and by a limiting failure, these kids just think they're
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: good enough.
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: And that's that's a great point because that's what all
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: of the Lebron lovers as goat. That's like, that's it's
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: all that age, it's all that you know what Lebron like,
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: he was coddled since he was a kid. He was
- 1:23:54Speaker 1: brought up to be. He was labeled the king at
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: sixteen years old. He doesn't no hardship.
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: He loses.
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay that he lost. It's okay, I'll
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: be back. He have no drive, he he just he
- 1:24:08Speaker 1: spends a million dollars on his body every year. Awesome,
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: good for him. I wish I had that kind of
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: money to spend on mine.
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: But at the end of the.
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: Day, he just he loses. And it's okay. Where it
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: is okay. But what I mean is, like all the
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: examples you just gave, the birds, the Jordan's, those guys,
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: the Brady's, like, these losses haunt them more than the
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: winds do.
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: The problem is too. Is like when I when I
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: was working at the gym and there were little Lebron fans,
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: the kids, and I would argue with them all the time.
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: I would be like, I'd be like, Lebron didn't even
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: get into the finals. That's okay, he's home resting because
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: he made eight straight conference finals. Yeah, he said he
- 1:24:48Speaker 2: won two. I said he won two finals. He won
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: two of them, right, like he's resting. No, he lost.
- 1:24:54Speaker 2: They couldn't even say he lost. That's like the mentality
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: is like you they can't even come out and be
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: like I'd be like, his team lost, he didn't have
- 1:25:04Speaker 2: any help. His team lost their home right now, they
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: weren't good enough. And these kids can't even say it,
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: like they can't say the words, like they'd fight me
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: on it. Well, they went to eighth straight conference finals, okay,
- 1:25:17Speaker 2: but did you win or lose this year? They can't
- 1:25:19Speaker 2: get themselves to say it, and I just would like
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: I would. And so finally I get mad because they'd
- 1:25:25Speaker 2: be yelling at them, because the pussies. And finally, I
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: finally I said to him one time, I said, listen,
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: let me ask you a question. How does it feel
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: to think to know that society thought you guys were
- 1:25:38Speaker 2: such fucking pussies. They had to give you a trophy
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: for eighth place so you would feel good about yourself.
- 1:25:45Speaker 2: We didn't even get fourth. There was no fourth place trophies.
- 1:25:49Speaker 2: Sometimes there wasn't even a third place trophy. It was
- 1:25:53Speaker 2: win and lose. And I just don't understand we as
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: society have failed those kids. Well not us because we're
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: on the right side of it, but the mentality of
- 1:26:04Speaker 2: it's coddling.
- 1:26:05Speaker 3: They coddle them all.
- 1:26:06Speaker 2: That's what it is. The mentality of don't let them
- 1:26:09Speaker 2: think they're failures because they're ruining them instead of teaching
- 1:26:12Speaker 2: these kids to be like so you think, right now,
- 1:26:15Speaker 2: you know this failure, like this, this anger and the
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: like hurt, use that to get better so you don't
- 1:26:21Speaker 2: feel it again.
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: I tell b all the time, like he'll huff and
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: puff about doing something around the house. I'm like, kid,
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: you think huffing a Puffin's gonna work with me? Like,
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: honest to god, I'm up at fucking four thirty every
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: morning I go to work. I got fucking a second
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: job of stone Bridge. I fucking do the podcast. I
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: fucking never stop. I never stopped, and I'm fifty years old.
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: It's called drive, it's called ambition, it's called purpose. These
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: fucking kids don't get it.
- 1:26:52Speaker 2: There was a kid he's he's gotta be like thirty
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: two or thirty three now at my job, at my company.
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: Now was the year that the Bills Jeeves went into overtime,
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: and he was just like, he was like, the overtime
- 1:27:07Speaker 2: rules are it wasn't fair to the Bills. And me
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: and this older guy Joe are looking at each other
- 1:27:13Speaker 2: and we're like, we'll like, of course it was fair.
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: It's like, but they don't get the ball back. It's
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: not fair. Kept saying it's not fair, and I was like,
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: I liked him. I was like, well, why didn't they
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: play defense for thirteen fucking seconds then, okay? Or or
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: play defense in overtime like it. It's the mentality of
- 1:27:30Speaker 2: it's not fair that I just don't get.
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's what's ingrained in all of them anyway.
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: All right, you ready for my douche of the week.
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: I am ready.
- 1:27:41Speaker 1: So we both we all watched the Super Bowl and
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: then the glorious halftime show came on. So if you're
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: just looking at it from an outsider's perspective, like it
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: was either people loved it online or they absolutely hated it, right,
- 1:27:52Speaker 1: it was one or the other, and I just didn't
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: understand it.
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: I don't listen to hip hop. I don't you know.
- 1:27:59Speaker 3: I kind of heard there was a So I'll just.
- 1:28:01Speaker 2: Say, let me just say this with you. If you
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: if you and I were like in your studio and
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: you played a Kendrick Lamar song, I would not know
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: it was.
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: No, neither would I. No clue. I've heard of him before.
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: I know the name only I think I know the
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: name because he had like a McDonald's fucking like meal
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: dealer or something like.
- 1:28:19Speaker 2: Listen. Just that's where I'm coming from, because I agree
- 1:28:22Speaker 2: with you, like I wouldn't know Kendrick Lamar's music if
- 1:28:26Speaker 2: it was blasting in my living room.
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: Right now, right So I I you know me, my
- 1:28:31Speaker 1: conspiracy side tends to look for in these shows now,
- 1:28:35Speaker 1: signs of you know, Satan and devil worshiping, because usually
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: that's what comes out, uh in these performances.
- 1:28:43Speaker 3: So there was a lot of red. There was a
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: lot of symbolism. Uh.
- 1:28:48Speaker 1: Even the PlayStation game, you know, the triangle and whateppen.
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: There's a lot of stupid symbolism. You can take it
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: for what it's worth. It could just be nonsensical. But
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: I didn't know there was something that he had a
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: beef with Drake. Now I don't really wouldn't really. You
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: could probably play a couple of Drake songs.
- 1:29:06Speaker 3: I would know them.
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: I wouldn't know they were from him, but just by
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: listening to any kind of radio, I'm sure I've heard
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: a Drake song before. So I watch it. I think
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: it's awful. I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
- 1:29:18Speaker 1: I kind of zoned out on it anyway. I was
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: just like, whatever made a drink?
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: You know?
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: Did you enjoy did you enjoy Serena Williams crip walking?
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: I'm getting to that.
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: So now now now it ends, and you know, I
- 1:29:33Speaker 1: go immediately online and you know, like I said, it's
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: it's it's either you're all for it or all against
- 1:29:38Speaker 1: it whatever.
- 1:29:38Speaker 3: I don't really care. We all know how Twitter is.
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: So I take a day or two and I'm reading
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: about it and a couple of things, uh like the NFL,
- 1:29:51Speaker 1: like like come on, like I have no problem of
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: bringing these guys out whatever. But you're really on a
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: on a on a global stage, you're gonna have a
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: rapper that has a beef with another rapper basically diss
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: this guy the whole time. And I don't even know
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: what the beef is. It's something to do with pedophilia.
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: So I'm gonna side with Kendrick Lamar in this one.
- 1:30:11Speaker 1: If that's the case with Drake, I don't know enough
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: about it to comment on it, and I think everyone
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: knows how I feel about that kind of shit anyway,
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: So good on Kendrick. But apparently every song he's sang
- 1:30:22Speaker 1: was a disc track towards Drake. Okay, uh whatever, Like
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: that's your fucking thing. I guess, go for it, have
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: at it. And that brings me to Serena Williams. Now,
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: this is the one that gets me, like, I guess
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: she used to date Drake whatever, so she's invited on.
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: Apparently she was told that she had to wear blue
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: sneakers to represent the crips, and not only did she
- 1:30:49Speaker 1: double down on that, she did a cryp dance. Now again,
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: as I watched it, I knew none of this shit.
- 1:30:53Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: it represented. But then I dig it in a little
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: deeper and her half sister was killed in gang violence
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: in two thousand and four or two thousand and three
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: in LA that probably involved crips and bloods. So she's
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: out here dancing to get back at Drake but supporting
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: a gang that literally destroys teenage lives, destroys families, all
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: this bullshit, and Goodell thinks this is a good idea.
- 1:31:27Speaker 3: Now, twenty years ago.
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: You put this out there, people talk about it by
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: the water cooler in the office, and it's forgotten about.
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: But now you can literally live you can live reference
- 1:31:42Speaker 1: what the fuck's going on at sixteen year old who
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: I went to Braiden he's fourteen. I said, what does
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: this shit mean? You know he's on TikTok all this shit.
- 1:31:50Speaker 1: He goes, Oh, that's a crypt dance. I'm like, what's
- 1:31:53Speaker 1: in my first crypt dance?
- 1:31:55Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: What's the Crypt dance? He's like, you know, the gang,
- 1:31:57Speaker 1: the crips. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? That's
- 1:32:00Speaker 1: what this is all about?
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: And why are they here? Why is Kendrick Lamar on
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: that fucking stage?
- 1:32:06Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take this because I heard kid rocks
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: say it and it resonated with me. Just look at
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, Colin Kaeprick, he never takes the knee for
- 1:32:16Speaker 1: the anthem and the flag, then there's never end racism
- 1:32:20Speaker 1: signs in the end zone that they surprisingly took down
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: here moving forward at the super Bowl. Why probably because
- 1:32:27Speaker 1: the fucking signs are meaningless. They don't mean nothing. You're
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: not gonna change a racist by ending n rape, by
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: putting end racist in an end zone. If anything, you're
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: gonna make them more racist. But by like, why the
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: fuck you're promoting that to me, asshole? So if he
- 1:32:42Speaker 1: doesn't take that knee and these phrases don't come on
- 1:32:45Speaker 1: the helmets and then COVID and all that bullshit, does
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: Goodell ask jay Z to be the fucking guy that's
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: bringing into talent.
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: No, he's pandering to, he's pandering to what is trendy.
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: So you bringing out a crotch grabbing like I looked
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: up some of Kendrick Lamar's lyrics in his songs. It's misogynistic,
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: you know, it's racist, you know, And they parade these
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: guys out there to basically have a fucking beef with
- 1:33:14Speaker 1: another rapper. I could care for fuck less about these
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: people don't consume the NFL during the regular season. I
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: get it, they're trying to captivate a different audience, but
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: they don't even know what the hell. They don't even
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: know what a fucking touchdown is from a home run,
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: let's be honest.
- 1:33:30Speaker 3: So I'm sick of these halftime shows. I'm never gonna
- 1:33:32Speaker 3: watch them again.
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: People online are joking, oh uh, next year, it's in
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: San Francisco. You know who's from San Francisco, Metallica. Metallica
- 1:33:42Speaker 1: should be on the halftime show. Now, I'm not a
- 1:33:44Speaker 1: big Metallica fan, but I've been saying this since fucking
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: fifteen years. Gotta give Metallica on a halftime show because
- 1:33:51Speaker 1: they would kill it. I've seen them play live at
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: certain events, like quick quick things, not full concerts. I'm like, wow,
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: they play like their three four best songs and they.
- 1:33:59Speaker 3: Rock it out.
- 1:34:00Speaker 1: It'll never ever happen in the Goodell era, especially if
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: jay Z's running it because he's gonna hook up his boys,
- 1:34:08Speaker 1: hook up his wife, He's gonna do all that shit.
- 1:34:12Speaker 3: So I'm sorry America that hates this ship. It ain't changing.
- 1:34:16Speaker 2: All drives me nuts. Because one, if you didn't like it,
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: you're racist. I mean, that's that's.
- 1:34:23Speaker 3: Just a go you know what.
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: I don't even give a fuck if I'm called a
- 1:34:25Speaker 1: racist anymore, because it's just a word that people slinking
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: around because I voted for Trump.
- 1:34:31Speaker 3: There's no merit to it. You ask anyone that fucking
- 1:34:35Speaker 3: knows me.
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: Would I've never do just this show alone if I
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: was a racist in four years, I would have said something.
- 1:34:43Speaker 3: I don't care.
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: I don't look at it like that, And I'm free
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: to hate the halftime show because I think it's just
- 1:34:49Speaker 1: a bunch of bullshit.
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: I agree, and I you know, it's just it. We've
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: just become such a divided mentality, Like it's just it's
- 1:35:01Speaker 2: just a mentality now, and it's taught. It's it's taught
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: like it is taught by people in education. It's taught
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: like you when you were when you and I were
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: growing up. Do you ever remember friendship like our parents'
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: friendships ending with someone because they voted a different way. No,
- 1:35:21Speaker 2: that's what I mean. But now you're taught to and
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: it just drives me crazy because it's like it's like
- 1:35:30Speaker 2: you look at people are melting down over like Elon Musk, right,
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: they're melting down, and all he's done is said, we're
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: wasting money on this, We're wasting money on it. Well,
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: he's the world's richest man. Shouldn't we listen to him
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: when it comes to business, he's pretty fucking good at it.
- 1:35:50Speaker 1: Now, now agreed, I will give a slight pushback. Is
- 1:35:56Speaker 1: it's not even pushback really, it's just it's it's Devil's advocate.
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: Is he cutting waste to benefit his own companies? Which
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: I think is a fair question. But then you've got
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: Democrats come out and they'll be like, well, I don't
- 1:36:09Speaker 1: understand why we do he Musk to do this when
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: we could, like we could pull all this stuff up
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: ourselves and vote on each one in Congress and do
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: it the right way. And well, you know what, fuck off,
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: because you've had years to do that shit and you
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: fucking quite blatantly didn't.
- 1:36:26Speaker 3: So stop pandering to us.
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: You're not long it's gonna take to eliminate fucking these
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: programs going through Congress, whether they're on vacation half the
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: fucking year, and they never agree on anything anyway, No,
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: put Musk in there.
- 1:36:39Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck if he's helping out his
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: own cause you.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: Know, what's the best one for it? He doesn't have
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: any ties.
- 1:36:46Speaker 3: Nope, I don't know.
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: It's I mean, like you listen to some of this
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: stuff and like not to get too political or anything,
- 1:36:55Speaker 2: but people are melting down that we fucking.
- 1:36:57Speaker 3: They're singing songs in the streets.
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: The USA, they like, oh this help. Why does Pakistan
- 1:37:04Speaker 2: need twenty million for gender for for gender ideology? Why
- 1:37:09Speaker 2: does why are we paying for drag shows in an
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: African country?
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: Like and here's well, that's the thing we're not here's
- 1:37:17Speaker 1: the thing we're not paying for that. This is where
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: whoever ran this ship labeled this ship as such and
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: stole the fucking money.
- 1:37:26Speaker 4: Right, but even still like because three years ago, right,
- 1:37:31Speaker 4: well here's the thing though, Like even the people that
- 1:37:33Speaker 4: don't know that. So let's just say, let's just say
- 1:37:37Speaker 4: you're someone that's that's upset about it that we're doing,
- 1:37:41Speaker 4: like we want to take that away. Well, if you're
- 1:37:45Speaker 4: pro trans, shouldn't you want that money spent on American transkits?
- 1:37:50Speaker 4: Like why do you why do you think it's a
- 1:37:51Speaker 4: it's a crime that we're taking it away from fucking Pakistan.
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: Because they want they want global transgenderism. This is what
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: democrats want. They want transhumanism. They do not want people reproducing.
- 1:38:04Speaker 1: This is all the big plan, this is all the
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: big reset, this is what they want. That's why if
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: they actually are going through with these things, that's why
- 1:38:12Speaker 1: they're sending out I would look at it as they're
- 1:38:15Speaker 1: like little like starter packs, like all right, let's uh,
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: let's see how many we could we could transform in Pakistan,
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: And let's see how many we could transform in Hungary.
- 1:38:25Speaker 3: Let's see how many we could kids.
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: We can you know, change to to transgender and whatever
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: fucking small country and start little start there, and then
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: before you know, the ship blows up and it's everywhere,
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: and you know, that's a that's a model that they
- 1:38:41Speaker 1: use in a lot of different things in the world.
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: This one just happens to be trans trans stuff. I
- 1:38:46Speaker 1: don't know, it's fucking crazy.
- 1:38:49Speaker 2: It's only get worse.
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: Well maybe not. Maybe there's that great, great, great white
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: Hope Trump.
- 1:38:59Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious that people get so angry about him.
- 1:39:04Speaker 3: Like literally, he could cure cancer and it wouldn't matter.
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: It really wouldn't matter.
- 1:39:07Speaker 2: It doesn't.
- 1:39:08Speaker 1: There's nothing he can do, you know, And I I
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: love arguing online and I do it in jest. I
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: could care less, I really could, because Kamala was in
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: I'm not doing what these people are doing.
- 1:39:19Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 1:39:19Speaker 1: I'm not writing songs and standing in the streets and
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: singing them. And it's just like, dude, guys, grow up,
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: go back to work, go back to work and turn
- 1:39:27Speaker 1: on American Idol when you get home. Just do whatevery.
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: Just just just relax. Yeah, just relax. It's gonna be okay.
- 1:39:36Speaker 2: Nothing's changed.
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: Just with TCUU four oh one k is in four
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: years exact. You know, you can now support your children. Yeah,
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: well yeah, that's the problem. The kids don't even work nowadays.
- 1:39:45Speaker 1: But all right, all right, well we went a little
- 1:39:47Speaker 1: long today. I want to do a little more Trump talk.
- 1:39:49Speaker 1: But you know, Trump, we could talk every day every day.
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: He's that dude doesn't sleep. He's a fucking maniac. He
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: just goes and goes, goes and goes, and.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: They're trying to get him on.
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: He's like too old and shit, I'm like, this guy
- 1:40:00Speaker 1: gets like two hours of sleep at night.
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: He just goes. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs,
- 1:40:05Speaker 3: just fucking goes.
- 1:40:06Speaker 1: You gotta give him some credit for like something, Give
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: us a little, a little credit somewhere.
- 1:40:12Speaker 3: I don't know. All right, buddy, Well, how was your
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: Valentine's Day? Before we go?
- 1:40:15Speaker 2: Good? It was great. So I got Gianni's pizza for
- 1:40:19Speaker 2: Liz and we did a podcast last night.
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right, yeah.
- 1:40:24Speaker 2: Talking about her her fifteen year sobriety anniversary.
- 1:40:27Speaker 3: Wow, awesome.
- 1:40:28Speaker 2: Mine's mine's coming up March third, and we just how
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: many years it for you? Fifteen?
- 1:40:35Speaker 3: Oh you're both the same. Wow.
- 1:40:37Speaker 2: Yeah. She's two weeks ahead of me though, so she's
- 1:40:39Speaker 2: a little better. She's mad at me right now.
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: She found she found herself before you then you know
- 1:40:45Speaker 1: she did. Yeah, why is she mad at you? Tell
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: her to chill out?
- 1:40:50Speaker 2: I think she's angry.
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: Oh oh oh all right, Well, when wife's hungry, I
- 1:40:54Speaker 3: know what I know.
- 1:40:55Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I get that on
- 1:40:57Speaker 1: my end too. But all right, brother, I'll let you go. Actually,
- 1:41:00Speaker 1: let me stop the show. I want to ask you
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: one quick question after the show. I'll do it right now.
- 1:41:04Speaker 1: All right, thanks again, everybody. I really don't have something plan.
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: I was supposed to have something for Monday. It might
- 1:41:08Speaker 1: get pushed back the following week, but either way, I
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: will talk to you guys soon.
- 1:41:13Speaker 3: Thanks so much, Chris,