Latest / The Cryptid Huntress / Dogman & Bigfoot Encounters with Vic Cundiff
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- 0:11Baby. Well, hey, everybody, welcome into a glitch in the Major.
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- 1:12I always say, I love y'all. Okay, I have such a fantastic
- 1:18show for us today. I have the Vic Kundiff in the studio today.
- 1:23For those of you who don't know which I think most people know Vic.
- 1:26He has an incredible YouTube channel. He has several different platforms and channels,
- 1:33but dog Man Encounters is the most popular in also my Bigfoot Sighting and the
- 1:38Bigfoot Radio. He's got podcasts. We're going to talk about that in just
- 1:42a little bit. Okay, So I've got Vic here. We're going to
- 1:44talk about some of his personal cryptid experiences and all the hundreds of dog Man
- 1:49reports that he's taken from all over the country. Oh my gosh, it
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- 3:04today. I have vik Kundiff here and let me give him a formal introduction.
- 3:08Vik Kunduff has always been fascinated with cryptids and has been interested in the
- 3:13things that go bump in the night for as long as he can remember.
- 3:15He spoke with his first dog man eyewitness in two thousand and seven and has
- 3:19spoken with countless eyewitnesses since. Some days he's contacted through Dogman encounters dot Com
- 3:24with as many as seven or eight new eyewitnesses he's never heard of from or
- 3:30heard from before. My goodness, that's a lot. He helps dogman eyewitnesses
- 3:34come to terms with their encounters and as the host of a podcast called Dogman
- 3:37Encounters, where eyewitnesses share the details of encounters they've had with dogmen. In
- 3:42addition to the work he does trying to help the dogman eyewitnesses, he also
- 3:46produces two Bigfoot specific podcasts and one paranormal theme podcast. The Bigfoot podcasts are
- 3:52called My Bigfoot Sighting and Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio. The paranormal podcast is called My
- 3:57Paranormal Experience. All four of his podcast us are available for listening on your
- 4:01favorite podcast platform. And I was just on Bigfoot Eyewitness Radio this weekend,
- 4:09so y'all please go tune into that. It's all over my social media.
- 4:11Please help me. Welcome to A Glitch and the Matrix today, Vic Kundiff,
- 4:15Well, Hey, Vic, Hey, Jess, thanks so much for
- 4:19having me on. Well, thank you for being here. Man. This
- 4:23has been a long time coming. I've been wanting to host you on my
- 4:26show for a long time. Uh, and I finally got you here,
- 4:30So thank you so much for spending your what is this Wednesday afternoon with me?
- 4:34Oh, you're a walform. I just wish you would have asked me
- 4:38on sooner. But I've got to ask you, though, Jess. Bymia
- 4:41agreeing to come on the show today, is that going to put a glitch
- 4:44into my matrix? You're already in You're already glitchy. You're glitchy. Yes,
- 4:48you're you're in your matrix. My matrix are into the entire matrix of
- 4:53the entire universe. Yes, we're making ripples today, Vic, for sure,
- 4:58I can guarantee that okay that we are Yeah, absolutely, Oh my
- 5:03gosh. Yes. Okay, So before we get started, I got to
- 5:06ask you, of all the cryptids. I know you take a lot of
- 5:10dog Man reports, You've had your own big Foot experience, what is your
- 5:14favorite cryptid of all time? I mean, out of all the cryptis not
- 5:17just Bigfoot in dog Man, what's your favorite? Well, that's kind of
- 5:21a loaded answer I've got ready for you. My most interesting. The cryptid
- 5:27I find most interesting is definitely dog men, but definitely not my favorite.
- 5:32I hate dog men. I hate what they do to these eyewitnesses. Of
- 5:36course, we're just seeing just a glimpse into what the total number of dog
- 5:43men out there do. I mean, I'm sure most of them don't terrorize
- 5:46people and try to ruin lives and all that, but yeah, I'm exposed
- 5:51to the ones that do things like that, that do go out of their
- 5:55way to try and terrify these poor eye witnesses to within an inch their lives.
- 6:00And you can only talk with so many people who have encountered these guys
- 6:04and been mortified unnecessarily so with that and not have a hate for these guys
- 6:12and what they do. So yeah, They're not my favorite by a long
- 6:15shot, but I do think they're the most interesting. I used to host
- 6:18a Sasquatch specific podcast back in two thousand and eight, I think it was
- 6:25in two thousand and nine. It was called Campfire Shadows, And back then
- 6:30I did that because I was just really drawn to the whole Sasquatch phenomenon.
- 6:33But after I found out about dog men what drew me to a sasquatch,
- 6:39it was magnified by ten or more. With dog men, I just find
- 6:44them more interesting, more frightening to think about, and all that, and
- 6:49they're more when encounters happen with these guys, it seems like there's normally more
- 6:56to it. So yeah, I've always been more drawn to them than Sasquatch
- 7:00after I found out. Yeah, well, you know what I've noticed being
- 7:05a show host and doing putting a lot of content out there, and also
- 7:10being a field researcher. I've been a big foot field researcher for almost twelve
- 7:14or twelve years or more now, and and so I know that bigfoot is
- 7:17real. Okay, I've experienced bigfoot. I talked about it on your podcast
- 7:21over the weekend, and uh and so and you know, I think that
- 7:27dog Man shows that I do get a lot more there's a lot more interest
- 7:31in those. I mean not only a ton, but there's there's more interest
- 7:34in dog Man, Like they get more views, and I've noticed a lot
- 7:38of other podcasters will put it out there, like dog Man Attacks, you
- 7:41know, and those those views like skyrocket on YouTube because everybody is so interested
- 7:46in dog Man, and I feel like big I'm not saying Bigfoot gets left
- 7:50behind by any means, but uh, there's so many videos and eyewitness accounts
- 7:56of Bigfoot, and it's been around for so long. I feel like dog
- 7:59Man's kind of the new big thing. You know, there's more sightings.
- 8:03People are coming forward more often to talk about them. What do you think
- 8:07about that? Do you think that it's because they're just more mysterious or more
- 8:11violent or what. No, there is definitely something to that. No one
- 8:16can look away from. The car crash, fright cells and dog Men they
- 8:20bring fright and drove. So yeah, that's why they're the end thing.
- 8:24Now. They're the hot cryptid. They're still not as big as Sasquatch,
- 8:28but yeah, they're the new encryptid right now. And I think it's just
- 8:33going to get bigger and bigger as time goes by. But yeah, I
- 8:37mean there are negative things that come along with that, just like when Doberman's
- 8:41became v dog they have back in the seventies, you had all these backyard
- 8:46breeders who were breeding these really poor specimens with all these issues. Well with
- 8:54dog men being such a hot topic, now you've got negative things that come
- 8:58along with that as well, such as you've got all these shows out there
- 9:01that are every time you turn around, and you just touched on this,
- 9:05every time you turn around, there's a new video popping up on YouTube about
- 9:09this dog man a slaughter this person or this dog man that will rip your
- 9:13eyes out and suck your brains out through the cavity, and all these made
- 9:18up stories. Well, it's okay to make creepy pasta. There's nothing wrong
- 9:22with creepy pasta at all. But I mean, if I had a nickel
- 9:26for every time I spoke with an eyewitness, a dogman eyewitness who had an
- 9:30encounter of their own and then they listened to this crap, this made up
- 9:33crap that wasn't presented for what it was, just a made up story.
- 9:37And again, like I said, if it was presented as creepy pasta,
- 9:41just a made up story, wouldn't have a problem whatsoever with it. But
- 9:45when these poor eyewitnesses who are already barely hanging on listen to this crap and
- 9:50take those stories as being real, well, okay, that makes them think
- 9:54that the dogmen that they encountered were that much more dangerous and whatnot, and
- 10:01just makes it that much more difficult for them to come to terms with their
- 10:03encounters. That's when I have to come in and talk with them and explain
- 10:07to them, Look, the siege Lockett Ranch never happened, and all these
- 10:13other made up stories, bogus stories about dog men attacking people, they didn't
- 10:18happen. I'm never going to say that dog men haven't attacked people, because
- 10:22yes, I've got no doubts whatsoever they have. And I've spoken with six
- 10:26or seven eyewitnesses over the years i've been doing this that I definitely do believe
- 10:31are credible in word telling the truth. But let's frame it up here.
- 10:39I've spoken with thousands upon thousands of dog mean eyewitnesses since I spoke with that
- 10:43first eye witness back in two thousand and seven. Well, if I've spoken
- 10:48with so many dogmen eyewitnesses, and the grand total of credible eyewitnesses I've spoken
- 10:54with over the years who've ever told me about being harmed intentionally harmed by a
- 11:00dog man or a dog men that they've bumped into. If that number is
- 11:03six or seven, then that right there tells you how rare, how much
- 11:07of a rarity it is for these guys to actually attack. And then when
- 11:13you've got someone else, every time you turn around, every other week,
- 11:16it's another story about this dog man attack, this killer dog me, and
- 11:20it's gonna break into your home and tear your head off and all this.
- 11:26If I deal with the numbers that I deal with, and someone who deals
- 11:28with less than ten percent of the eyewitnesses I do, and every other week
- 11:33they're coming out with a new dogman attack story that they're presenting is being factual,
- 11:37then yeah, that tells everything you need to know about this. I
- 11:39mean, every time I turn around, you've got someone else who's contacting me,
- 11:45You're trying to tell me about this attack that they suffered. Well,
- 11:48when you dig into it, the story, in almost every case, it
- 11:50just doesn't hold up. The most recent case of that was this guy who
- 11:54contacted me from Kentucky talked about how he had been horseback riding with friends.
- 11:58He was the last one online, and he said they were going up this
- 12:03long, gradual hill and all of a sudden he noticed off to us,
- 12:07right, I think it was, there was this huge dog, mean that
- 12:09came walking up next to him, and it was so big. He said
- 12:13it was looking him in his eye. Well, he said, it swiped
- 12:16him across the chest and knocked him off his horse. And then when it
- 12:20did that, it left these deep gashes across his chest naturally. And when
- 12:24he said that, I asked him, Okay, I'm sure you had to
- 12:26go to the hospital to get treating for those wounds, didn't you, And
- 12:31he said yeah, I sure did. I said, well, if that's
- 12:33the case, did the hospital take any pictures of the wounds that you could
- 12:37send me? Or did you take pictures of the wounds that you can send
- 12:39me? And he said yeah, I sure did, or they sure did.
- 12:43I can't remember which. And when he said that he had pictures of
- 12:46the wounds, I said, okay, great, well if that's the case,
- 12:48and yeah, please do send this to me. I want to take
- 12:50a look at them. After I got off the film with him. That
- 12:54was the first conversation we had. I kind of networked, I guess you
- 12:58could say, and ranged so that two very well tenured trauma surgeons who are
- 13:05based out in Colorado who specialize and guess what, dealing with large predator attacks
- 13:11on humans, Well, who better than them to evaluate the validity of these
- 13:16so called wounds in the pictures on his chest. Well, when I contacted
- 13:20him back, because I wasn't going to just take these pictures and automatically forward
- 13:24those to the trauma surgeons without his permission. When I asked him if it
- 13:28would be okay to send these pictures to these well tenured, very experienced trauma
- 13:33surgeons to get their professional opinion, he left skid marks getting out of there.
- 13:39He didn't want any part of these people evaluating those wounds in the pictures
- 13:43and all. And that's the way it is, time after time. Once
- 13:48in a great while you'll have someone who's legit, but that's almost always how
- 13:54it is, people trying to lie the way onto the show. So oh
- 13:58god, I mean, yeah, when you check out these shows and see
- 14:03that every time you turn around, they're putting someone else out there who is
- 14:07this poor dog man attack victim? Yeah, you don't know before believing that,
- 14:13Oh wow, Well, you know, you got to go with your
- 14:16gut with some of the people who are giving these reports. And I don't
- 14:20like having to discount anybody's reports because everybody who's had a sighting, most of
- 14:24the majority of people that I've heard about, they were like super but kind
- 14:28of but not benevolent, but kind of indifferent when it came to the dog
- 14:31man. Their reaction to the humans a dog man's reaction to them. Uh,
- 14:35they just kind of stood there and looked at them and may have put
- 14:39off some kind of an energy to them, Like you know, I can
- 14:41mess you up if I if I want to, but I won't, you
- 14:43know. So it's not it's not as though a lot of people are getting
- 14:46attacked now. The only attacks that I have actually, you know, I
- 14:50do this remote viewing stuff, and I have been tasked with some targets of
- 14:54alleged dog man attacks, and half the time the attacks were actually big ca
- 15:00from what I could tell. And of course there's some key stories, you
- 15:05know, some of the accounts like the LBL that's a famous one, right
- 15:09that everybody talks about and Ronald Nelson. Thank you for that, super chat.
- 15:13I appreciate that. But you know, the majority of the accounts that
- 15:18we get what people encountering a dog man are not violent. I mean,
- 15:24in my experience so far, you're right, You're right. Now you get
- 15:30people who say, well, VIC is full of it by seeing that these
- 15:33guys aren't wired to attack on site because he only speaks to a fraction of
- 15:37the eyewitnesses who have encounters with these guys, and if they attack a person
- 15:43and kill them, then that person can't come forward and talk about the attack.
- 15:46And that's true. But I base my opinion on them not being clearly
- 15:50not being wired to attack humans on site by, like I said, the
- 15:56thousands on thousands of eyewitnesses who were caught dead to rights in compromising situations where
- 16:03if the dog men that they encountered were wired to attack people on site,
- 16:08those people would have been wiped off the map, but they were allowed to
- 16:12leave without a single hair in their heads being harmed. So that right there
- 16:17is what tells me that these guys most definitely are not wired to attack people
- 16:22on site. Now, again, I'm going to qualify those comments by saying
- 16:25I'm never going to say the dog men are safe to be around, because
- 16:29any critter with teeth and or a claus jess as you know, if you
- 16:33push the wrong buttons, if they got off on the wrong maybe that morning
- 16:37they got up on the wrong side of the log, you never know,
- 16:40they might attack you, or you might have a dangerous specimen. You name
- 16:44the species of animal out there, from pigs to horses, to goats,
- 16:48camels, you name it, dogs, cats, You name the species that
- 16:53doesn't have examples of dangerous individuals. There are horses that will kill you if
- 17:00you go into a pin with them, if you go close to them.
- 17:03There are pigs that are dangerous like that, camels like that. So why
- 17:07people like that, ethan, So why should dog men be any different.
- 17:11You are going to have devent examples of any species out there. So yeah,
- 17:15you will have dangerous dogmen as well, but it's clear that they're not
- 17:21wired to be that way. That's not what you should expect when you encounter
- 17:25any dog man, because again the numbers clearly show that's not the keys.
- 17:30Well, they're also very scary and that could be traumatic to people who see
- 17:33them, and you know, especially grown men who you know you're seeing something
- 17:37you're not supposed to see. So the first reaction they're going to have is
- 17:41to want to unlive it, as they say on YouTube. Okay, uh,
- 17:45And so I've actually had people on my show. I've had at least
- 17:48one person who spoke publicly about let's say unliving for YouTube purposes a dog man,
- 17:55and I call it critter control is what the terms I started using for
- 18:00it. Do you get reports like that very often of where people have actually
- 18:04shot them and and you know, critter controlled the dog man. Once in
- 18:12a blue moon, I'll have someone contact me and tell me that they took
- 18:17a shot at a dog. Mean, Normally it doesn't get the desired effect.
- 18:19Normally it's it just it's clear it hit the dog mean, but they
- 18:25don't drop. They're not all that affected by it. I mean Dave Lightey
- 18:30he talked about in that one instance when he was driving through I think it
- 18:33was a black swamp in South Carolina. I think it was where he pulled
- 18:37out his three fifty seven and shot one in the shoulder and it was just
- 18:40like someone had punched it and that's all it was to it. So yeah,
- 18:44once in a blue moon, I'll have someone contact me and tell me
- 18:47they did that, but not very often at all. Wow. Yeah,
- 18:51some say that their bullet proof. I mean, I've heard that before,
- 18:53that the bullets just kind of bounced right off of them, And I guess
- 18:56it depends on what caliber you're using. Okay, So I don't know.
- 19:00I know that I don't go into the woods unprotected because I know the dangers
- 19:03out there. And it's not just dog men and bigfoot, it's cats,
- 19:08big cats and humans. I'm more scared of humans that I am a bigfoot
- 19:11out there, to be quite honest. Fick. Yeah, oh no,
- 19:15you're right. I mean, yeah, there are some pretty dangerous people out
- 19:19there, and like you said, hogs and other things too, mountain lion,
- 19:23so you've got to keep your head on the swivel. That's right,
- 19:27that's right. Now. What do you think about these unspecified animal attacks?
- 19:30Have you heard about a lot of those over the past few years. I
- 19:34mean, because recently we've had some reports coming out of well from all over
- 19:38the country, and I've done shows on them where they say that packs a
- 19:42while dogs are you know, I'm just going to say killing people, okay,
- 19:48And people are very suspicious of that and they think that it could be
- 19:51dog man. What are your thoughts on that? Well, once in a
- 19:56blue moon have I had some contact me. You told me about see more
- 20:00than one dog man together. And when you think about how things work,
- 20:03it only makes sense that these guys do not travel in numbers. I mean,
- 20:07unlike sasquatch, you are omnivores. These guys, it's clear because of
- 20:11the teeth in their head that they're obligate carnivores. And if you're an obligate
- 20:17carnivore of any size, mountain lion, bears you name it, Well,
- 20:21bears are omnivores, but tigers, you name any large omnivore, they're going
- 20:26to have a huge home range because if they stayed in one particular area very
- 20:30long, due to their caloric dealily requirements, they would deplete all the resources.
- 20:36That's why a large carnivore can't stay in one spot too long. While
- 20:40if you have more than one large carnivore hanging out together, that's just gonna
- 20:42compound that problem. Like you wouldn't believe. So it just wouldn't make sense
- 20:48that they wouldn't hang out in numbers. And also too, Yeah, wolves
- 20:51they hang out in numbers, but number one there not that big, and
- 20:55number two to dispatch the prey that they take down, it requires numbers and
- 21:00TeamWorks, so they have to live together. But dog men they've got the
- 21:03size, the strength, the weapons, the intelligence to take down anything they
- 21:08want to take down and feed on, so there's no requirement for them to
- 21:12hang out in numbers. So yeah, I just for those reasons. I
- 21:15just don't think that they make a habit out of doing that. But yeah,
- 21:18these reports of supposed dog attack victims who are killed by dogs, yeah,
- 21:23that might be a situation where a rogue dog man took someone down and
- 21:27killed them. Unfortunately, there was that one boy in Kentucky I forgot his
- 21:32name. I think Martin Groves. Well, yeah, I think that was
- 21:34a dog mean that killed him unfortunately. Like I said, I think these
- 21:38guys do occasionally kill people, and I think there are rogue dogmen out there
- 21:44who are just dangerous by nature, who will kill you if they have the
- 21:48opportunity. So yeah, I do think it happens. Dad, answer your
- 21:52question, and it's so convenient to just blame it on feral dogs instead of
- 21:59saying what really, I think that's what it is behind all this. Yeah,
- 22:03and for clarification, Martin Groves is alive today. It was a bow
- 22:07hunter. I believe that he witnessed that he had encountered the day before who
- 22:12he said was who died and under mysterious circumstances. So yeah, very interesting
- 22:18stuff. Now, speaking of the power of dogmen, do you believe that
- 22:25our military, our government, agencies, any kind of I just say agencies,
- 22:30it didn't even have to be government, is utilizing dogmen and let's just
- 22:33say were wolves. We'll make a distinction between dogmen and werewolves today as well,
- 22:37Vick, if we can. And yeah, because some people say that
- 22:42there's even a dog man breeding program going on here. And who's to say.
- 22:48I don't know, because I've never had an eyewitness account, but I've
- 22:52heard some online before. So what do you think about that? Well,
- 22:56before I address that, let me go back and apologize. I think Martin
- 22:59Groves as a researcher. And that's not the name of the boy. There
- 23:02is a boy in Kentucky who was dragged up this mountain and killed and I
- 23:06think whatever it was attacked his stomach and the boy was alive when he was
- 23:11being eaten or whatever. But yeah, there was a boy who was killed
- 23:15in Kentucky. That's the one I was talking about. And again I apologize,
- 23:18yea, his name is not Martin Groves like you said. But to
- 23:22answer your question, gosh, I guess it's possible, but I think more
- 23:27is so more likely than not what you're looking as, I think that's probably
- 23:33something that was made up. Because if the government actually was behind a program
- 23:37like that, I just don't think that they're gonna let that kind of a
- 23:41secret get out. I really don't. And if you do have a program,
- 23:44a breeding program, where these guys are used as biological weapons, there
- 23:49are so many problems that come along with that. I mean, what if
- 23:55they're filmed when they're doing what they're programmed to supposedly? Do you either are
- 24:00being deployed overseas, what if this happens, what if that happens. There
- 24:04are so many moving parts to a program like that. I just don't think
- 24:08with all of our technology that we would ever have any use for them doing
- 24:12that sort of thing. I really don't. Yeah, well, you know,
- 24:17I get a lot of guests on and uh, and we've had a
- 24:19lot of discussions on that, and and to me, it seems like it.
- 24:25No, considering what I know, let's just put it that way.
- 24:26Considering what I know and the things that I've experienced myself, I think it
- 24:30could be possible. So but like I said, I don't know. I
- 24:33don't have firsthand knowledge of that. But you know, I got people who
- 24:37claim to be insiders and stuff that kind of what kind of off handedly claim
- 24:41to be insiders that are contacting me and kind of telling me stuff like that.
- 24:47So it's just food for thought. As my friend Barry Littleton says he's
- 24:49in the chat today, Hey Barry, it's definitely food for thought. And
- 24:53it would be the ultimate soldier, don't you think. Vic Yeah, that
- 24:57would make for a pretty formidable soldier, no doubt about that. But how
- 25:03can you guarantee they're not going to turn on our troops and start doing things
- 25:07that you don't want them to do to escape the area where these bad soldiers
- 25:11are and then go into whatever city, major city is closest by and start
- 25:15slaughtering people. You know, imagine trying to keep that off of the news.
- 25:19So, yeah, there are a lot of moving parts that come along
- 25:22with doing something like that that the government is way too smart to fall for
- 25:27and not think through. So it's possible, but you know, for the
- 25:32aforementioned reasons, I really doubt that that's going on big. What about shot
- 25:37callers, I'm just kidding. No, that's as if some say that they
- 25:41do have shot callers and stuff, so and it's just I think it could
- 25:45be just trying to rationalize the idea of having a dog man super soldier,
- 25:49like how do you control them shot callers? You know, because you got
- 25:52to put like a you know, an everyday dog kind of connotation to it.
- 25:56So I don't know, it's just a lot to think about, it
- 26:00is. It seems very serious, but it's also kind of humorous at the
- 26:03same time. But if it is serious, if it is real, this
- 26:06is a serious issue, seriously serious serious. So sure, yeah, I
- 26:11think it's I think it's interesting to talk about though, And who better to
- 26:15talk about this with today than you Vic. So you've taken over I mean,
- 26:18what like four hundred reports by now, or well over three hundred dog
- 26:23Man reports, right, Well, I've taken thousands and thousands over the years.
- 26:29But yeah, on dog Man Encounters Radio, we're up to what episode
- 26:33for eighty two this Friday? So yeah, that's the tip of the iceberg.
- 26:37Most of these people have encounters, they don't have any interest in coming
- 26:41on the show, so you're never going to hear from them. But there's
- 26:45no pressure to ever do a show. I mean when people reach out to
- 26:48me, it's sad to me to think to ever think that they're under this
- 26:52they feel under an obligation to come on the show if they try to get
- 26:56help with their encounters, because yeah, that couldn't be further from the truth.
- 27:02That's just not how it is. Yeah, wow, okay, well
- 27:06I mentioned were wolves. I did mention were wolves while ago. Uh,
- 27:10there's a difference between a were wolf and a dog man, and we've talked
- 27:12about it on my shows before, and it's not only the way they look,
- 27:17but it's their size. And some people say that were wolves shape shift
- 27:21from humans into wear wolves. What is your idea of a were wolf because
- 27:25it seems like everybody. I'm not gonna say everybody's a expert on it,
- 27:29because I'm not an expert at all, but anytime that I talk about it
- 27:33and we kind of throw ideas out there, somebody's always trying to correct or
- 27:36something. They're like, no, a were wolf is this? You know,
- 27:40I believe I've been in my mind I thought were wolves were shape shifters
- 27:44and shaped from you know, like a human who shape shifted into a were
- 27:47wolf. But lately I've been told that Noah werewolf was born a were wolf,
- 27:52and it is a were wolf. What do you think about that?
- 27:55Well? Do I think? Oh? Boy, yes, what is your
- 27:57opinion? Ever since I've gotten into this, one of the things that I've
- 28:02just laughed and laughed about is how every time you turn around, you've got
- 28:07people trying to redefine things. When it comes to these guys, you've got
- 28:11people like the ones you just mentioned that are trying to redefine the meaning of
- 28:14where wolf. Know, people, a were wolf is a human that,
- 28:18if they actually existed. A were wolf is defined as being a person who
- 28:22somehow is able to magically transform from the form of a human to that of
- 28:27a beast that looks like basically a dog man or what we know to be
- 28:33a werewolf. It's not something that's born looking like that. It's not something
- 28:37that is These experts who somehow magically can tell you how many hairs a were
- 28:42wolf has per square inch on its body, they can tell you, Oh,
- 28:45a were wolf has two hundred hairs per square inch on their body and
- 28:49a dog man has one hundred hairs per square inch in their body. And
- 28:53they can tell you how were wolf smells different from a dog man. A
- 28:56dog man smells like popcorn. A were wolf when it gets anger and it
- 29:00smells like peaches. Yeah, this is just the insanity that's floating around.
- 29:07Well, every time I turn around, I see these preposterous claims from these
- 29:12people who claim to be insiders, who are in the know, they know
- 29:15about dogmen. It's almost like they supposedly are hanging out inside of a cage
- 29:21at a government facility with these guys. And that's why there are these experts
- 29:26on these guys. There are no experts when it comes to dog men,
- 29:30and if were wolves actually existed, there are no experts on them. But
- 29:33I can't tell you trying to redefine things. I mean, that's a pretty
- 29:40pretty big step to try and redefine what a were wolf actually is when it's
- 29:44already been defined again as a person who can somehow magically transform into the form
- 29:49of a beast. It's not something that's born looking that way at birth.
- 29:55Like I said, these are just people who are trying to move the goal
- 29:59line. Different than that, that's exactly what it is. You know.
- 30:03Well, when in all my years of researching VIC, I gotta say,
- 30:06like, I don't even like labeling things anymore because a lot of times when
- 30:10we're out there and we're studying sasquatch, we have all these other critters,
- 30:14Okay, critters, and I mean that in the nicest way, other big
- 30:18gigantic animals out there that may not be exactly a sasquatch or a dog man.
- 30:23It could be anything. We even have goat men out there. I
- 30:26mean, but there's so many different things. Anything is possible in my mind,
- 30:30so we try it to label if we can help it. And so
- 30:33when it kind of comes down to a dog man versus werewolf versus shape shifter
- 30:37or to what, it's really fun to look into all this stuff because people
- 30:41have different opinions. But yeah, I do agree with you, there are
- 30:44like I don't want to say it, like I've encountered some word police lately
- 30:48and stuff too, So but we're not going to go there today when it
- 30:52comes to the terminology of like the way we're out there researching. Honestly,
- 30:56I just have fun researching. I'm not trying to get technical. I'm just
- 31:00out there having fun. I'm enjoying everybody's stories. And y'all call yourselves what
- 31:04you want. If you want to be boots on the ground or field researchers
- 31:07or whatever. It's all good in my book. So but anyways, yeah,
- 31:12I do see that, VIC, I see that changing the terminology and
- 31:18stuff. Well, it's just confusing to me because I'm over here trying to
- 31:19figure these things out. And now I'm like, well, now, were
- 31:22Wolf's not what I thought it was. Okay, So what I really think
- 31:29is behind it, there's an individual who has claimed to be this government operative,
- 31:34who's an insider, who decided to basically go rogue and start revealing things
- 31:40about what the government is actually doing, who's been featured regularly on another show,
- 31:45who In my opinion, it seems like they started this nonsense about okay,
- 31:51this is what a were wolf is, where a wolf is born looking
- 31:52the way it does, and a were wolf is looks this way compared to
- 31:57a dog man and whatnot. And then you've got people who listen to that
- 32:01and unfortunately believe this guy. And then that's why you've got so many people
- 32:06out there now who think they know that. Okay, well, where wolves
- 32:09do look that way when they're born and they have all the stuff that they'll
- 32:14be able to tell you about where wolves when in fact, they bought into
- 32:16a charlatan's lies and now they've been misled and they're spreading those lies for that
- 32:23charlatan. So yeah, I don't put any weight into that. And I'm
- 32:28with you. I mean, where wolves might be a reality, people who
- 32:31who have the ability to transform shapeshift into the form of what looks like a
- 32:36were wolf as we know it, they might be out there. Anything's possible
- 32:39in this crazy world. But yeah, as far as people who will tell
- 32:45you that quote unquote where wolves look the same all the time, well yeah,
- 32:50that that's where wolves have already been defined. So yeah, that just
- 32:55isn't the case. Yeah, okay, well that's good to know. Thank
- 32:59you for that information. Now we do have a question vic Jeff Adams says,
- 33:04please to ask you about the connection with people who have had near death
- 33:07experiences and dog man encounters. Is there a connection? That's a really good
- 33:12question. Yeah. I've told an eyewitness about this like two three days ago
- 33:15when I was on the phone with him. If you have an MDE that
- 33:20most definitely does seem to predispose you much more so than the average person who
- 33:25has not to having an encounter with a dog man. Maybe they do have
- 33:30some kind of a supernatural element to them. I mean, there are a
- 33:32lot of things pointing towards that being a fact about these guys. And if
- 33:37they do have supernatural qualities, maybe they are drawn to people who have seen
- 33:42the other side. So yeah, seems like there's something to that. I
- 33:45don't know exactly what, like I said, but there definitely does seem to
- 33:51be something to that. I have an idea, Okay, I have an
- 33:53idea because I like to say that bigfoot sightings or any kind of crypto sightings
- 34:00are raising the consciousness of everybody on this planet, one sighting at a time,
- 34:06okay. And to me, everything is about energy and frequency and vibration.
- 34:09Okay. And so you know when they say that whenever someone has an
- 34:14encounter with a dog man or a sasquatch, they get tagged, is what
- 34:19people call it. Okay, Well, I like to think that it's not
- 34:22just they're getting tagged. What I believe is that they are jolted into this
- 34:25frequency. They're on that frequency to be at that moment to see that being,
- 34:30that creature. Okay. And when they're on that free when you get
- 34:34on that frequency and you can see each other, whatever that vibrational frequency is,
- 34:37you're on it. You're kind of stuck there, okay, like you're
- 34:39there, you're vibrating on it. At this point, now you're open to
- 34:43everything. Like now you can see them, and you're probably never going to
- 34:46stop seeing them, Okay, unless you go hide under a rock somewhere you
- 34:50don't want to have that experience anymore. I do believe it kind of opens
- 34:53you up to that frequency, and that's what I think it is. But
- 34:57I don't claim to be right. I don't always know what I'm talking about,
- 35:00but that's just my opinion and that's what I think. So I think
- 35:05a near death experience would put you in that frequency of you know, just
- 35:08like seeing ghosts, Okay, you see your past overloved ones and and vic.
- 35:14I know you have your paranormal channel, you have your big foot channel.
- 35:17Uh, you're very in tune with like all the paranormal every facet and
- 35:22so yeah, I think I think that you're able to pick up on all
- 35:25the things are in that vibrational vibrational frequency once you get to that frequency.
- 35:31Yeah, that makes sense, that would make good sense. Maybe maybe,
- 35:37but uh yeah, I just think that's really cool though, the near death
- 35:39experiences. And I have my friend Barry in here. He's had a near
- 35:43death experience or two. I think I think a few people have in here,
- 35:46and I think it does open you up to not only the cryptids,
- 35:51but even to your enhance human capabilities as I call them, like telepathy and
- 35:57stuff like that. Do you think dog men have telepathy? Well, they
- 36:01might. I mean, there have been a lot of credible eyewitnesses so I've
- 36:05spoken with over the years who reported mind speak, So with a dog man,
- 36:10maybe they do have the ability to do that. We really don't know
- 36:13what the extent, what the limits of their abilities are, So anything's possible
- 36:16when it comes to these guys, in my opinion, Yes, absolutely.
- 36:22Okay, Now you have had your own personal experiences that with cryptids, particularly
- 36:28potentially Bigfoot. Would you like to tell me and the audience today a little
- 36:31bit about some of your experiences? Sure? Yeah, glad to This is
- 36:37something I've kind of kept on the download for years since I got into this
- 36:39because I didn't want to be the next person jumping in and kind of throwing
- 36:44their cryptied related experiences out there. And I don't know for sure that these
- 36:47two were definitely cryptid experiences. But if they're not, if the first one
- 36:53especially is not, it's really hard to explain away as being something else.
- 36:59I guess I'll just dive into that first one and make you do the best
- 37:04I can to help you understand why you see that. Okay, thank you,
- 37:07thank you Long Island Bigfoot Oury Budy at Long Island Bigfoots in the chat
- 37:09today before you start. I'm so sorry, thank you for that super chat.
- 37:14You guys. Go check out Long Island Bigfoot on Vic's show Dog Man
- 37:19Encounters. Okay, that was about a week or two ago. Go check
- 37:22that out, all right, Vic, go ahead, I'm sorry, Yeah,
- 37:24no no problem. Hey Mike, hope you're having a great day.
- 37:29Yeah, what's that my to dive into that first encounter. This was over
- 37:35forty years ago, and basically I had a neighbor that was a few doors
- 37:42down who I think he was already in the seventies back then. This man,
- 37:46I mean, he was like the definition of an outdoorsman. I mean,
- 37:52you name it, and he had done it. I mean, he
- 37:54had hunting story after hunting story to tell, and he had been all all
- 38:00these places and done all these things out in the woods and everything well,
- 38:05always being a sucker for a good story and also loving the outdoors, animals,
- 38:09you name it, wilderness. I was just drawn to this guy.
- 38:15Well. I would go down there and sit on that man's couch and listen
- 38:19to story after story, to the point where he would actually pull out his
- 38:22newspaper. I guess is my hint that it was time for me to go
- 38:27home. But anyway, Yeah, he would talk about all these experiences he
- 38:31had. And one time, even after going down there for years, one
- 38:37time he told me about this one beer attack. He said, Oh,
- 38:38by the way, every tell about the time I was attacked by a beer
- 38:42when I was deer hunting in an upper peninsula. I said, what,
- 38:46You're attacked by a bear. You're gonna come at me with that now?
- 38:51He said, yeah, I sure was. And I guess I must have
- 38:55been making faces or something like that, and he could tell that I just
- 38:59wasn't half And then next thing I know, he holds his leg up,
- 39:01pulls up his pant leg and shows me. You could see in his calf
- 39:06they were like pock marks. They were like you could see the print tooth
- 39:10mark wounds of a bear, a bear's teeth where a bear had clearly bitten
- 39:16him on the leg. Thought, holy cow, this guy is the real
- 39:21deal. You were attacked by a bear. Yeah. He told me that
- 39:24he was hunting deer up in the Upper Peninsula. He was stall hunting,
- 39:28and he was in this really dense pine grove, and all of a sudden
- 39:31he got this feeling like he was being watched. So he dropped down on
- 39:35the ground and started looking around underneath the trees to try and see what in
- 39:38the world was around. Maybe there was something make him feel that way.
- 39:43Well, you know, there was a bear some distance away. He could
- 39:45see that there was a bear, a black bear that was actually doing the
- 39:49same thing he was doing. It was crouched down looking under the trees,
- 39:52looking right at him, and as soon as he made eye contact with it,
- 39:55he said, it charged him, knocked him down and bit him on
- 40:00his leg. There that's how he got that wound. Well, after hearing
- 40:05all these stories, he posed the idea eventually he said, you know what,
- 40:08Vic, You've got all this interest in the outdoors and animals, and
- 40:12you love my hunting stories. Why don't I take you to the farm.
- 40:15He had this farm that was way out in the country, I mean way
- 40:19out in the sticks, in the middle of absolutely nowhere. He said,
- 40:22why don't you get your your hunting license, and there's plenty of time for
- 40:28you to get it before the season comes in, and that way we can
- 40:30leave here and we can do some hunting on the farm when the season does
- 40:35come in this November. I said, well, yeah, that sounds like
- 40:37a great idea. So I went and took the hunter safety course and got
- 40:40my hunter's license and everything, and hunting license, i should say. And
- 40:45then yeah, we left out the day before his season came in, and
- 40:49we got settled in into his farmhouse and all that, and he was kind
- 40:52of basically explaining how things were going to work the next morning when we set
- 40:58out bright and early, and what I needed to do when I was out
- 41:01there and all this stuff. Well, yeah, the next morning came and
- 41:05bright and early. We got up like an hour or so before dawn,
- 41:07maybe an hour and a half, and had breakfasted and next thing. I
- 41:10know, we're heading out. So we started heading out, and I guess
- 41:15I'm kind of getting ahead of myself. As we were pulling up to his
- 41:17farm house, he knew much I loved horses. Well. I saw that
- 41:21he had two bays out there, and when he heard me make a comment
- 41:25about them, he said, well, yeah, this one right here is
- 41:29So and So forgot that horse's name. He's fine to be around, but
- 41:32this one here past him is Red. Don't even think about going near Red
- 41:37because he's dangerous. He will hurt you, maybe even kill you. So
- 41:40stay away from Red. I said, understood, no problem, all right.
- 41:45So now it's the day of hunting season. We're heading out into the
- 41:49darkness, and it was dark dark because, like I said, he just
- 41:52lived in the middle of nowhere. So we walked and walked and walked,
- 41:57and he made it clear, I'm going to take you way out to this
- 42:00one spot where I'm gonna have you sit, and that's gonna be where you're
- 42:05gonna stay, and you're gonna hunt until I come get you right before dark.
- 42:09So remember everything I told you, and everything will be fine. So,
- 42:14like I said, we walked and walked and walked, went down this
- 42:16hollow, up the other side of the hollow, up down, up,
- 42:20down, way out until we finally came to this one huge oak tree that
- 42:25was halfway down the side of this huge hollow. And he said, Okay,
- 42:29this is your spot. This is where you're gonna stay until I come
- 42:31get you this evening, right before dark. Remember what I told you,
- 42:36and everything will be fine. So you know, I got settled in and
- 42:39he left. Well, I sat there and I sat there, and for
- 42:44too long the sun came up and I just sat and sat and sat,
- 42:47and there was no action. I mean, nothing was going on. And
- 42:52I guess it was probably around noon or so. I didn't check the time
- 42:57all that often because that would be unnecessary movement, and like you told me,
- 43:00you didn't want to move any more than you needed to. Well,
- 43:04sometime, I guess afternoonish orsel. I was sitting there when all of a
- 43:08sudden, maybe fifteen twenty maybe twenty five feet behind me, up the slope
- 43:15of the hollow I was sitting on, I hear this loud horse whinny,
- 43:20loud horse whinny. And when I heard that, I just froze. I
- 43:22thought, oh my gosh, is that red did Red follow us all the
- 43:25way out here, and then not long after that, I heard this horse
- 43:30blow. If you've been around horses, you know that normally, when they
- 43:34have a little bit of dust in the nostrils, they'll do the normal clearing
- 43:37that everyone knows. But when they have something that's going to require more attention
- 43:45to get out of their nostrils. Horses can't breathe through their mouths. They
- 43:49can only breathe through their nostrils, so that makes it even more important for
- 43:53them to keep them clear. Well, that's why occasionally when a horse gets
- 43:59something up there that a normal clearing won't get the clog out or whatever.
- 44:05I guess you could say, they do a blow and it can be loud.
- 44:09It just depends on how much force they put behind it. But if
- 44:13they really get into it, it'll scary out of your boots. Well,
- 44:16yeah, that's what I heard behind me was this loud blow. I mean
- 44:21it was ridiculously loud, and I actually felt a concussion from it. If
- 44:24you're around horses that do a big blow, you'll actually feel a kind of
- 44:29concussion from it because of the lung volume. Well, the sound I heard
- 44:35when I heard this blow there's no way. I'm a big guy, and
- 44:39there's no way guys even bigger than me have lung volume close to reproducing that
- 44:45kind of a concussion, that kind of a sound. The lungs I heard,
- 44:50the sound that I heard had to be made by a creature that had
- 44:52lungs the size of a horse. So that's why I think it must have
- 44:57been a huge sasquatch behind me. Because Number one, the slope of that
- 45:00hollow that I was halfway down, and it was a big hollow too,
- 45:06that slope was too steep for a horse to even think about getting on unless
- 45:09it was really determined to get on that slope. Number one. Number two,
- 45:15there was so much tree trash on that slope. I mean tons of
- 45:17oak leaves and all sorts of other leaves and sticks and twigs. There's no
- 45:22way a horse could have gotten anywhere close to me without me hearing it.
- 45:25So what else has lung volume the size of a horse that could get that
- 45:30close to me without me ever hearing it. I think it must have been
- 45:34a sasquatch. Now again, I'm going to qualify that I didn't see a
- 45:37sasquatch, But if it wasn't a horse. If it wasn't a sasquatch,
- 45:43what could it have been. So that was my first experience, and then
- 45:47my second experience that happened I guess what three four years ago, I think
- 45:52it was. I was walking out in the country and I was about me
- 46:00be a quarter mile away from this bridge that goes up and over this creek.
- 46:06And it's more of a brook than a creek. It was as small.
- 46:07But I'm just walking and there's a green field on either side of me,
- 46:13and the green field was up about maybe six feet tall whatever, so
- 46:19I could still look over it, but yeah, it did cut off a
- 46:23lot of what I could see on the other side of that green field.
- 46:27So I'm walking and way up ahead, I see this black figure come up
- 46:32and over the bridge. And when it was jogging slash kind of running,
- 46:37it had this really strange gait. It was kind of like plucking its feet
- 46:42in a strange way up, kind of like a sewing machine fashion, plucking
- 46:46and plucking and plucking its feet up. And it was all black. Again
- 46:51in whether that didn't call for a sweatshirt or anything like that. So could
- 46:57it have been a person, Yeah, it might have been a person,
- 47:00all black that's possible, but it's possible also it just might have been a
- 47:05sasquatch. I don't know. So yeah, those are two experiences where I
- 47:08think it might have been a sasquatch. The first one, I can't see
- 47:12what it could have been, but but I never did see definitively see that
- 47:17in the second encounter was a sasquatch And in the first encounter I didn't see
- 47:22anything. Yeah. Yeah, that's why, you know, I think it's
- 47:25important not to always label everything, you know, because once you're out there
- 47:30looking for bigfoot, if you're actually out in the field looking for that,
- 47:34everything's a bigfoot, okay. And I always say that on my shows.
- 47:37I'm like, you know, if you go out looking for UFOs, everything
- 47:39in the sky is going to be a UFO, you know. Or if
- 47:42you go out looking for dog man, everything is going to be a dog
- 47:45man. And there's so many things that can be you know, mislabeled or
- 47:49whatever. But if you're in an area where there's bigfoot sightings and they are
- 47:53there known to be there, and you know they're there, you don't have
- 47:58to see one face to face to know it's there. There's many ways to
- 48:01experience a bigfoot okay, and I'm walking through of that right there, because
- 48:06we experience them all the time. I mean, some people think that they're
- 48:09interdimensional beings. What do you think about that, Vic, Yeah, it
- 48:15just might be. It's hard to say anything's possible. I mean that sure
- 48:19would explain a lot of the things they do. Yeah, a lot of
- 48:22the supernatural stuff. And now, when I first came out publicly as a
- 48:27bigfoot field researcher, which it took me ten years to do, okay,
- 48:30but I finally did it. And when I did, I came out kind
- 48:34of guns blazing, Vic, and I was saying, you know, from
- 48:37my experience, I think that they could be interdimensional beings. And there is
- 48:39a supernatural element to Sasquatch and to pretty much all the cryptids. And speaking
- 48:45of cryptids, Cryptoville is in the chat. He's asking ask Vic when he's
- 48:49going to come to the LBL and let him show you around, please.
- 48:53He wants to show you around and be your tour guide. Well, thanks
- 48:58for the offer, but I don't have a life. I've got so much
- 49:00work that you have one. I don't have a life to do things like
- 49:04that. Oh my gosh, I know you're busy, man, Well,
- 49:07Kurtonville, I'll take his place. Let me come up there, Okay,
- 49:10show me around. If it can't come, I'll go Okay, that is
- 49:15too funny. Cryptiville is funny. Okay, you're awesome. Thank you for
- 49:17being here Cryptoville. Yeah. So, yeah, I absolutely believe, and
- 49:22I've seen with my own eyes there is some sort of a supernatural element.
- 49:27Like how many stories do you get and encounters do you get where people ran
- 49:30into what they thought could be a cloaked sasquatch. It happens not all that
- 49:37often, but yeah, it does happen, and I think it's a shame.
- 49:42For the longest time, I just thought that was total nonsense. But
- 49:45as time has gone by and you have so many credible eyewitnesses come forward and
- 49:51report seeing that experiencing that, then yeah, I mean, I think there
- 49:54has to be something to that, so I no longer dismissed it. I
- 50:00believe that it's entirely possible, just like I think anything is possible out there.
- 50:05Oh my gosh, it is. And you know what I love,
- 50:07What warms my heart more than anything is watching people who have been in the
- 50:12primate in the woods camp the flesh and blood, flesh and bone camp graduate
- 50:16into the WU camp, as we call it, And I think, I
- 50:21think it's a beautiful thing, because I mean, I know that when I
- 50:23first went out for the first expedition I ever went on to go bigfooting with
- 50:28an actual team, I was looking for a primate in the woods vic Okay,
- 50:31but I got a lot more than I bargained for. Okay. So
- 50:36yeah, have you watched the progression of other people do that as well?
- 50:38And I call it a progression I have, including people who I never thought
- 50:44would do that. The one that tops the list as far as people who
- 50:49I'd never thought would come around and buy into the possibility that it's a reality,
- 50:53or I guess I should say these are card carrying believers now that that
- 50:59is the reality. Would be Tim Cumbo Baker. I listened to a show.
- 51:02I'm an insomniac. So when I sleep and then wake up and it's
- 51:07okay, it's night shift. You know that's enough sleep for now. I'll
- 51:09listen to bigfoot podcasts and yeah, I go to for the longest time has
- 51:14been Bigfoot Crossroads and also a Bigfoot outlaw radio. Well, I think it
- 51:21was on an episode of Bigfoot Crossroads where Cumbo talked about how there was an
- 51:27experience that tal Branco shared with him, and I guess in this experience,
- 51:34he watched one cloak and it was like a process he watched where there was
- 51:38like a shimmering effect and its fur and then the first started to disappear bit
- 51:44by bit, and then you could see its internals, you can see its
- 51:47organs, and then it just basically eventually vanished. And then Cumbo talked about
- 51:52witnessing sasquatch running into like an impenetrable thicket and when they hit that thicket and
- 52:00disappeared into it, there wasn't a single leaf that wavered, even nothing moved.
- 52:05And just he's played out things like that that he's witnessed and experienced over
- 52:08the years that wound up making him coming around in being a card carring believer
- 52:15in the existence of what some people call WU. So yeah, he's definitely
- 52:21the one that I thought would be the last one to ever fly into this,
- 52:24but he does believe it now. Yeah. Well, speaking of the
- 52:29WU, we have Dave Scott from spaced Out Radio in the chat. Thank
- 52:31you for that super chat, Dave. Hi, I know I know who
- 52:36you are, Dave, I see you. Thank you so much for being
- 52:38here. Yeah, you know, my team we've documented a portal out in
- 52:43the field, and we do believe that some of the cryptids are utilizing Earth's
- 52:46natural portals potentially. It's just a thing. I know. There's a lot
- 52:52more research needs to be done, and my team's out there doing it at
- 52:53this moment. We're still researching on that. But I mean everything from targates
- 53:00to portals, to holographic covers of her doors and things. I mean,
- 53:05this world is so wild, vic and it's there's just so much that we
- 53:08don't know. But yeah, I love talking about these things though. Absolutely.
- 53:15Also the fact that sasquatch some of their hair some people say has chlorophyll
- 53:20in it, Okay, which would I mean? Some say also they turn
- 53:24into trees or they use trees as a portal. Have you gotten reports of
- 53:28that where there's a connection between sasquatch and trees. Well, recently I had
- 53:34an incredible eyewitness come on one of the shows, and I think he came
- 53:37on my Bigfoot sighting. No, I guess he came on Bigfoot I witnessed
- 53:40radio. That's right, he came on Bigfoot Eye witnessed radio and talked about
- 53:44seeing a stump with eyes and from time to time while I have that where
- 53:50they start off like that and then they kind of transform into a sasquatch.
- 53:53Now, I'm not sure how much of that is looking like a stump because
- 53:58of holding its body a particular and the lay of its hair on its body
- 54:01and all that, and it just looks like it's a stump there instead of
- 54:06it actually physically appearing to be a stump legitimately. And then all of a
- 54:10sudden sheepe shifting into their form of being a sasquatch. I don't know how
- 54:15much as behind all that, but it does happen. I do have people
- 54:19contact me and report that. Yeah. I have a personal friend, one
- 54:23of the guys who's on one of my research teams. He has a story
- 54:27of his uncle, I think it was his great uncle or his uncle.
- 54:30They live down here in the South. I'm down here in the South,
- 54:32Okay, And he said there's a story that he told me first hand of
- 54:38his uncle. Let's just say that he was evading the police, Okay,
- 54:43and he ran out the back of the house when the cop showed up at
- 54:45his house. And he ran into the backyard, and as he passed behind
- 54:51a tree, a dog like a wolf, came out of the other side
- 54:54of the tree, and it ran into the woods. Okay, And then
- 54:59he said that when the cops left, the dog trotted back from the woods
- 55:02and that went behind that tree, and his uncle emerged out the other side
- 55:06of it. I mean, there's there's weird stuff going on. And I'm
- 55:09not saying he was a dog man, but he went kind of sound like
- 55:13he went from a man to a dog, you know. But yeah,
- 55:15there's just a lot of different facets to the whole dog man thing. And
- 55:20that may have some ties to you know, black magic or something if you
- 55:23believe in that, and I believe in it. There's there's some weird ritual
- 55:29stuff going that goes on in this world, for sure. Oh sure,
- 55:32it wouldn't surprise me. The older I get, the more I realize come
- 55:37to the realization that, yeah, the world's not what we've been told it
- 55:42is. It's a lot more complicated. Complicated. Complicated is a good word,
- 55:46yes, complicated, majestic, I mean just wonderful. I love I
- 55:52love being here at this time right now. I know we're going through some
- 55:53weird stuff. But I'm here for the ride. Okay, I'm here for
- 55:59the ride and and trying to unravel some of these mysteries. Now, I
- 56:02mean, we've got a few more minutes today. Somebody has sent me some
- 56:07videos. Okay, I don't have them uploaded today, but I've been sent
- 56:09videos of what appeared to be dogmen. Okay, Okay, one of them,
- 56:15yes, I do believe it could be a dog man that's running and
- 56:17it's jumping, and it moves interestingly, and it goes on two legs.
- 56:22The other videos look a lot like rodent humans. Okay, have you seen
- 56:27those videos yet where they're claiming that those are dogmen but they look like rat
- 56:30humans kind of. No, I haven't seen those, but understand, I
- 56:37mean, I don't really get into the media like that, the pictures of
- 56:40videos. I've had things like that that have been shared with me over the
- 56:45years that are so impressive that, yeah, it takes a lot to even
- 56:49come close to moving the needle for me. So that's why I don't really
- 56:52get into pictures or videos. I have people contact me all the time,
- 56:55Vick. I've got a picture you're gonna see. It's going to blow you
- 56:58away. You've got to see video, and I'm thinking, well, I
- 57:01really doubt that. I'm sure it's really important to you, but yeah,
- 57:06I mean, I'm just more focused on trying to help the eyewitnesses come to
- 57:08terms with your encounters with dog men than to see the next dog mean picture
- 57:14that's out there or the next dog mean video that's been taken. So yeah,
- 57:19it just hasn't really been anything that I get into anymore. But now
- 57:22I haven't seen those pictures to answer your question, Okay, what is the
- 57:27And I've already heard you on another show before. I just love listening to
- 57:30your stories and your accounts. Tell me about the most impressive dog man footage
- 57:37you've ever seen. Please, Oh that's easy. Yeah, I think about
- 57:42eight years ago. Was it eight years ago? No, I guess it
- 57:46was in two thousand, two thousand and well, yeah, I guess it
- 57:52was seven or eight years ago. Anyway, there was a guy who he
- 57:58found out or offended his found out that in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada
- 58:01Mountains there was a dog man hanging around or dog men plural hanging around.
- 58:07Well, either he or a friend of his took this game cam that was
- 58:09more expensive. You know, the more expensive ones, you can set them
- 58:14up to not only snap photos when they detect motion, but also film if
- 58:17you want them to start filming when they detect motion. Well, either he
- 58:22or this buddy of his strap this game cam to a tree trunk. Then
- 58:25here his buddy hung this bait about five feet way from the camera lens on
- 58:30this branch. Well, either later that day or maybe the next day or
- 58:35something like that, in broad daylight, it just looked like a sunny afternoon.
- 58:39From left or right, you see this dog man come walking into view
- 58:44of the camera between the camera lens in that bait, so it was quite
- 58:49a bit less than five feet away from the camera lens. I got to
- 58:52see it from the front. I got to see it from the back when
- 58:54it turned around to go for the bait, and I could see actually individual
- 59:00hairs on its body. It was kind of like a coyote ish timberwolfish gray,
- 59:06so like at the base of the hairs, it was kind of like
- 59:08a dirty gray, and on some of the hairs, not all of them,
- 59:12but on some of the heirs, they were kind of tipped in brownish
- 59:15or chocolate. And I was so blown away by this video. I contacted
- 59:22this guy back, and it was share to me via private YouTube video,
- 59:27so the public couldn't access it, but if you would send the link to
- 59:30you you could well. I contacted him back and said, Hey, would
- 59:34you mind if I shared this video with a guy I know who had just
- 59:37been on an episode of Dogman Encounters actually episode six. Richard Edy is this
- 59:44researcher's name who specializes in analyzing footage of dog men and sasquatch. Would you
- 59:52mind if I share this video with Richard Edy to get his opinion on the
- 59:55valid of validity of this He said, sure me, So I sent it
- 1:00:00to Richard and yeah, I was on the phone with him when he opened
- 1:00:04it up and was watching it for the first time, and it blew him
- 1:00:07away. It's like, holy cow, I mean, it was just an
- 1:00:10amazing video. So yeah. Ever since then, nothing has really moved the
- 1:00:16needle for me after seeing that. Oh, I can only imagine now did
- 1:00:21it have a head? That the head? I have so many questions.
- 1:00:23Did it look more like a German shepherd or like a husky? Or did
- 1:00:27it have human attributes to it? Yeah, there weren't really any human attributes
- 1:00:31to it. It was kind of like a cross between a wolfhead and maybe
- 1:00:37somewhat of a German shepherd type head on it. But yeah, there wasn't
- 1:00:40anything to it at all of it would remind you of a human at all.
- 1:00:45Okay, what kind of intelligence do you think the dog men have,
- 1:00:51like human intelligence, dog intelligence, somewhere between or more intelligent than humans.
- 1:00:57Well, I think their intelligence would really surprise most people. I think they're
- 1:01:00intelligent beyond belief. I think their intelligence might rival ours in some ways,
- 1:01:08it might supersede ours. So they're very intelligent. If you look at the
- 1:01:13things that they do. If you look at the things they do, they
- 1:01:17have to be offully intelligent. Yeah, I would think so. To me,
- 1:01:23it sounds like they have like a kind of a human element to them.
- 1:01:25But I've never experienced one firsthand that I know of, I've never seen
- 1:01:30one, so yeah, And I hear they have hands a little like raccoons,
- 1:01:35Is that true? Well, some do. Others have hands that look
- 1:01:38pretty pretty much like what you would expect. The werewolf's hands still look like,
- 1:01:43I mean, kind of like human hands with knobby knuckles, and then
- 1:01:46they've got the talents on the tips of their fingers and all the long talons.
- 1:01:51So yeah, they have variances not only how their heads look, but
- 1:01:55how their hands look. And I guess you could call them pause that they
- 1:01:59have pause slash hands like a raccoon, so they have different looks to them.
- 1:02:05Pause for the cause. Absolutely, well, my goodness. I mean,
- 1:02:07this hour has really flown by, and I feel like I have a
- 1:02:10million more questions for you big while you're here. But why don't you tell
- 1:02:17the audience exactly where they can find all of your podcasts and your shows.
- 1:02:22I mean, I know you your whole life revolves around doing shows and podcasts,
- 1:02:25and I commend you for that. That you're putting so much information out
- 1:02:29there, and it's so important right now, uh, just for not only
- 1:02:31to put the information out for disclosure purposes, but for people to be aware
- 1:02:37of what's going on in the world. And it's an outlet for people to
- 1:02:39tell their stories, uh and to kind of release some of that trauma of
- 1:02:45the events that happened when they had those encounters. So thank you for doing
- 1:02:49that. I think that you're doing a big service to the world right now
- 1:02:52and I love that, So thank you. Veg Absolutely, if you could
- 1:02:59just kind of go over all of your podcasts and in your shows so our
- 1:03:02audience can go subscribe. Well, I produce four podcasts, like you said
- 1:03:07a bit ago. The biggest one is dog Man Encounters. All these all
- 1:03:13four podcasts are available on every podcast platform out there. Iheard Stitcher one needs
- 1:03:20to be around, Spreaker, Spotify. You pick a podcast platform which everyone
- 1:03:24is your favorite, and you can listen to all four of my shows on
- 1:03:28that platform. My shows are dog Man Encounters Radio. I've got my Bigfoot
- 1:03:36Sighting. That's my newest bigfoot show which is really growing by leaps and bounds.
- 1:03:40And then you've got my other bigfoot show which has been around since twenty
- 1:03:45sixteen, that is Bigfoot Eye Witness Radio. And then you've got my newest
- 1:03:50show which is called My Paranormal Experience, where we cover everything that doesn't have
- 1:03:54to do with dogmen or sasquatch, ufo, abductions, streams, creatures that
- 1:04:00are seen out in the woods. Yeah, ghost sightings and encounters from the
- 1:04:05ground up. If it's out there, it's on that show. But yeah,
- 1:04:10dog Me and Encounters, my Bigfoot Sighting, Bigfoot I Witness Radio,
- 1:04:14and My Paranormal experience. All four are available on every podcast platform out there.
- 1:04:19Three of those. All the shows except for Bigfoot I Witness Radio are
- 1:04:25also available on YouTube, so they're all really easy to find and listen to.
- 1:04:30Oh yeah, and you have a big old audience, man, I
- 1:04:32love it, And it just means that you're reaching a big audience to really
- 1:04:36get the word out. And I like to really not just like warn people
- 1:04:42about what's going on in our woods and our national forests and stuff. We
- 1:04:45have a lot of people going missing, you know, out of our woods
- 1:04:48and our forests, so you know, and I don't want people to be
- 1:04:51scared, y'all. Don't be scared about in the woods. I go out
- 1:04:54in the woods all the time and I'm still here. We're good, but
- 1:04:57just be aware of your surroundings. Do you have any advice for the audience
- 1:05:00before you go to davic on? You know, just to protect people's protect
- 1:05:05ourselves from dog man, let's just put it that way. Any advice,
- 1:05:10Well, I always tell people and I'm asked about how to handle a Dogmian
- 1:05:13encounter, I would just treat it like you would treat encountering a grizzly bear.
- 1:05:16Don't do anything to make it think that you're challenging its dominance. Don't
- 1:05:20run from it. I'd recommend turning sideways and not making direct eye contact with
- 1:05:27it, because that can bring on a sort of host of other problems in
- 1:05:31and of itself if you make that mistake. But anyway, yeah, monitor
- 1:05:35where it's at and then safely try to just leave the area in a calm
- 1:05:42as possible manner if you haven't a dog mean encounter. Of course it's going
- 1:05:45to be hard for me calm, but yeah, try to leave the area
- 1:05:48in a controlled fashion while monitoring the dog man. These guys, they normally
- 1:05:55want to be behind you. So yeah, that's why it's a good idea
- 1:06:00of my opinion, to kind of turn sideways and monitor them as you're leaving
- 1:06:04the area. But that's what I would recommend. Wow, Okay, I
- 1:06:10can appreciate that. That's awesome. And if you don't want a dog man
- 1:06:13encounter you guys, I don't know. Just don't go in the woods by
- 1:06:16yourself at night. Okay, Please don't go in the woods by yourself.
- 1:06:19But there's so much more we could talk about. Vic, Please come back
- 1:06:23and join me on another show. I would love to have you back on
- 1:06:26at your at your convenience sometime, if you would, If you would do
- 1:06:30that, Oh, I'd love to come back. Yeah, just save the
- 1:06:33word and I'll be here. Oh I'm going to say the word. Don't
- 1:06:36you worry. We're gonna have you back on soon. Okay, veg awesome,
- 1:06:41Okay, Well, thank you guys so much for being here today.
- 1:06:43This has been a fantastic show. Thank you to everybody who is in the
- 1:06:46chat today and all my moderators, and thank you so much for those super
- 1:06:49chats and superstickers. You guys are the best. I appreciate y'all. Please
- 1:06:55come back here tomorrow night at eight pm Eastern. I have James Drink and
- 1:06:59Jimmy Payne joining me for part two of our Vampire series, and we're gonna
- 1:07:02be talking about reanimated corpses and Jimmy has some first hand experience with that stuff.
- 1:07:08So this is gonna be wild. You don't want to miss it.
- 1:07:11It's October, y'all. It's Halloween, right, we started Halloween this week?
- 1:07:15All right? Well, Vic, thanks again for being here today.
- 1:07:18I will see you guys tomorrow night. Y'all have a great day, and
- 1:07:24I don't know if y'all are turning your devices off today, but it's about
- 1:07:27time, all right. I'll see y'all later. Bye, y'all. Hie names and