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9-30: Mariners manager search, Seahawks updates and Matt "Money" Smith · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Runnels Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from the Virginia Mason Athletics. Hunter and Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: Headquarters Headlines are brought to you by Frost Brewed Coors Light.
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  Speaker 2: As cold as the Rockies. The Seahawks returned from their
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  Speaker 2: loss at Washington and their normal players day off yesterday
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  Speaker 2: to practice for their game Sunday against the 0-3 Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers. Story of practice today is whether Julian Love's
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  Speaker 2: going to be in it. Purple veteran safety missed the
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  Speaker 2: Washington game with a calf injury. Coach Mike McDonald said
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  Speaker 2: Monday that Love might practice this week. The coach talks
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  Speaker 2: at noon here today. Amazon reportedly has a day to
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  Speaker 2: extend Kirk Herbstreet as its television analyst for its Thursday
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  Speaker 2: night NFL package. But The Athletic reports that the extension
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  Speaker 2: has an out cause if Rams coach Sean McVay wants
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  Speaker 2: to get into broadcasting. And it would be with Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: Two days after the Mariners announced Dan Wilson is out
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  Speaker 2: as manager, one day after Jerry DiPoto said the team
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  Speaker 2: needs a new culture and leader from the outside the franchise,
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  Speaker 2: multiple reports are that the M's top candidate is Arizona
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  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks manager Torrey Lovello. Lovello's contract with Arizona just ended
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  Speaker 2: when the Diamondbacks didn't make the playoffs. He said he
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  Speaker 2: wants to stay in Arizona, but MLB.com reported that as
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  Speaker 2: of this week, the team and the manager haven't talked
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  Speaker 2: about a new deal in Arizona. So he, for now,
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  Speaker 2: is a free agent. The MLB playoffs began yesterday with
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  Speaker 2: game ones of the best of three wild card series.
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  Speaker 2: The Braves beat the Phillies. The White Sox beat the
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  Speaker 2: Trash Cans. The Yankees beat the Red Sox. And the
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  Speaker 2: Padres beat the Cubs. Game twos of all those series today.
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  Speaker 2: A chance for elimination games starting at 11 a.m. with
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  Speaker 2: Philadelphia at Atlanta. The NHL season began last night. Five games,
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  Speaker 2: including Vancouver, taking a three-goal lead at Edmonton. Blown it.
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  Speaker 2: And the Canucks winning in overtime. A banger of a
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  Speaker 2: game 6-5. The Kraken's opener is tomorrow, 6 p.m. at Calgary,
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  Speaker 2: right here on your home of the Kraken, 93.3 KJR.
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  Speaker 2: The Kraken's home opener is Sunday evening at Climate Pledge Arena,
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  Speaker 2: also against Calgary, also right here on your home for
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  Speaker 2: the Kraken. The Packers' offensive line is a mess. That's
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  Speaker 2: why Green Bay has signed former Seahawks guard Laken Tomlinson.
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  Speaker 2: Remember him? He's going to come off the practice squad.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the Cowboys' practice squad at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the season. Now he's signed to Green Bay's active roster.
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  Speaker 2: Packers have also signed fellow former first-round pick Mekhi Becton.
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  Speaker 2: to the practice squad. And today the Packers are signing
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  Speaker 2: former first-round pick and guard Kevin Zeitler. Packs one and two.
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  Speaker 2: That's why the NFL Flex Green Bay's game with Chicago
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  Speaker 2: next week from the late Sunday to early Sunday afternoon
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  Speaker 2: TV window. That clears the 49ers at the Seahawks for
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  Speaker 2: the national game of the week on Fox late Sunday
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  Speaker 2: afternoon window next week. Now on with the Wednesday show.
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  Speaker 2: Greg Vo at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center and Justin
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  Speaker 2: McIntyre is back at our Elliott Bay Studios in downtown Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, ma'am. Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: How we doing?
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  Speaker 2: We are okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Be better when it's busy. It's all right. Midweek already.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like it. September's gone. I mean, that's crazy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I measure my life in minutes, seconds
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  Speaker 4: and football games. So, yes, it is weird that, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for the Seahawks, we're, you know, just barely
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  Speaker 4: gracing the beginning of the season. But for me working
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  Speaker 4: in college football, I'm like, we're a third of the
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  Speaker 4: way done.
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  Speaker 3: That's odd.
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  Speaker 2: High school football in our state is almost halfway done. Right.
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  Speaker 2: There's like eight or nine regular season games and then
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  Speaker 2: they playoffs and. League playoffs and state playoffs. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's crazy. We're already to October. Baseball's playoffs are starting.
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  Speaker 2: Some say this is the best week of the calendar
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  Speaker 2: year for sports. I'm not sure that's exactly true, but
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  Speaker 2: I can see why people would say that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: baseball playoffs and college football and pro football. WNBA playoffs
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  Speaker 2: have begun. The number one team, the Lynx in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: is already out. New York Liberty ousted them.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I remember the beginning of the season. It was
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  Speaker 4: just like, oh, we're getting ready for summer. And now
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  Speaker 4: we're like, oh, doom and gloom, fall.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. So that's actually a decent question to start the day. 49451,
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  Speaker 2: you agree that October is the best sports month. Tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: is October 1st.
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  Speaker 3: It was a lot better last year for us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. We're going to talk about that, Jessamyn, about the
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  Speaker 2: Mariners not being in the playoffs, which is why they're
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  Speaker 2: looking for a new manager. We're going to dive deeper
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  Speaker 2: into Tory Lavello and why the Mariners apparently are keenly
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  Speaker 2: interested in him. to be their next manager out here
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  Speaker 2: at Seahawks land. The Seahawks, they aren't chicken littling over
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  Speaker 2: this loss at Washington. They talked after the game about
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  Speaker 2: we know who we are, and Demarcus Lawrence talked in
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  Speaker 2: the locker room about that, or the dark side defense.
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  Speaker 2: We're not concerned. But they do have issues, and they're
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  Speaker 2: seeking to fix some of those issues this week. One
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  Speaker 2: of the issues, Chuck brought this up with me this
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  Speaker 2: morning when I talked to him at 7 o'clock. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about it on the show today. They
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  Speaker 2: are not getting a return so far on their $ 17
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  Speaker 2: million a year investment in Rashid Shaheed at all. And
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  Speaker 2: he needs to be part of the offense. He needs
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  Speaker 2: a running game to help him open down the field
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  Speaker 2: in the play-action pass game. And his punt return game
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  Speaker 2: has not been there either. And that's part of a
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  Speaker 2: bigger problem on special teams that Mike McDonald talked about
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  Speaker 2: coming out of Washington. You'll hear Mike McDonald talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: This has not been a special teams season start for
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks who had by all measures and metrics, the
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  Speaker 2: best special teams units across the board. Last year, Washington
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  Speaker 2: had many drive starts, not just after the turnovers, but
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  Speaker 2: many drive starts, favorable drive starts because of kickoff returns,
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  Speaker 2: because of punt coverage issues. And the Seahawks are not
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  Speaker 2: generating anything in the return game to get better drive
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  Speaker 2: starts either. And Rashid Jaheed, of course, largely signed back
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  Speaker 2: to be the catalyst of that, hasn't happened. And Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald said Monday, everyone is eligible to be on specialty starters, veterans,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to look for fixes. And if he
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  Speaker 2: has to pull starters off his defense and his offense,
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  Speaker 2: he may do that.
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  Speaker 4: I think he said something like along the lines of
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  Speaker 4: everyone's eligible.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's eligible is what he said. And we've seen that
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  Speaker 2: in the past. Pete Carroll used to have Richard Sherman
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  Speaker 2: and Doug Baldwin, even after they made their marks as
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks starters and stars on special teams, Tyler Lockett used
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  Speaker 2: to return kicks. Of course he started as a all
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  Speaker 2: pro kick returner as a rookie, but yeah, That could
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  Speaker 2: be an option for Mike McDonald to look at different
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  Speaker 2: starters to put in on the special teams. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about those issues, including running back, including Jadarian Price,
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  Speaker 2: and why I think he's going to be a very
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  Speaker 2: big focal point of the offense on Sunday when the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks play the Chargers. Speaking of the Chargers, 11 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to go live to Los Angeles. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Matt Money-Smith. What do they call him?
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  Speaker 2: Money Smith?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I called him last week to
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  Speaker 4: see if he could join us today.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. And he said, no, Matt's fine. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of like money, man.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe you can ask him about that because it
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  Speaker 4: is listed for those outside of our industry that we
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  Speaker 4: get this black book.
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  Speaker 3: It's called the NFL Black Book.
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  Speaker 4: It gives all the media contacts, all the radio contacts,
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  Speaker 4: television contacts, and just lets you know who is in
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  Speaker 4: the market.
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  Speaker 3: They also.
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  Speaker 4: do a great job, the NFL as a whole, of
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  Speaker 4: giving restaurant recommendations. There's a ton in this black book.
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  Speaker 4: So I always utilize that. And I said, Matt Money Smith. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: that could be fun. But he does play-by-play for the Chargers,
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  Speaker 4: and he'll be a great resource for us.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Justin Herbert. And we're also talking about
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  Speaker 2: something that Jory Epstein brought up with us yesterday in
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  Speaker 2: our weekly talk with her when she said that she's
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  Speaker 2: talked to teams around the league that think the Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDaniel-Jim Harbaugh fix is Or meshing is not working. They're
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  Speaker 2: just not meshing. And it's not working in L.A., especially
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  Speaker 2: with the offense. Justin Herbert, we've mentioned his problems. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk to Money Smith. Maybe I'll ask him
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  Speaker 2: why he calls himself Money.
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  Speaker 4: Or just like, not why he calls himself. Where did
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  Speaker 4: that moniker come from? Let's not put it on him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you give yourself a nickname.
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  Speaker 3: Other people do.
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  Speaker 2: Those play-by-play announcers don't have money as their nickname. I
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  Speaker 2: forgot to ask you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just where did that come from?
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  Speaker 4: I really don't think he gave himself that moniker.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Jessamyn, she'll have more tact. Maybe I'll
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Especially after I think I did one pro game and
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to my roots for this
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  Speaker 2: college pick, by the way, too. And then Ian Furness
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  Speaker 2: He's going to join me right out here from Seahawks headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: We're here because this is the first prep day of
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  Speaker 2: the NFL game week. They are mandated by the collective
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  Speaker 2: bargaining agreement to have a Tuesday off when it's Sunday
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  Speaker 2: to Sunday games. So they did yesterday, and now they're
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  Speaker 2: back on the field today, which is why this today
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  Speaker 2: will be the first indication on whether Julian Love practices.
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  Speaker 2: And if he does practice, that would be a real
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  Speaker 2: good sign that he's going to play. That's a big
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  Speaker 2: deal because the Seahawks had to start two safeties, two
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  Speaker 2: deep safeties that were up from the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: season on the practice squad. Rodney Thomas, of course, had
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  Speaker 2: started the first two games because Ty Okada was injured.
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  Speaker 2: There are no signs Ty Okada is coming back this week.
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  Speaker 2: This would be the fourth game he's missed, which make
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  Speaker 2: in retrospect, maybe they should have put him on injured
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  Speaker 2: reserve designated to return and use his roster spot for
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  Speaker 2: someone else. Hamstrings don't just heal overnight. Those take a while.
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  Speaker 2: And it looked like at the end of the training camp,
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  Speaker 2: right in late August, start of September is when this
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  Speaker 2: issue first flared up because he was full go throughout
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  Speaker 2: the preseason and training camp practices. So with Okada out,
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  Speaker 2: Rodney Thomas was up. And then when Julian Love got hurt, A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Finley started, and those were your two deep safeties in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Julian loves a traffic cop back there, and he has
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  Speaker 2: everybody in the right place. He has great instincts. He
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  Speaker 2: had interceptions in each of the first two games. He's
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  Speaker 2: played every position in the secondary in the NFL, first
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  Speaker 2: for the New York Giants when he was a captain
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  Speaker 2: for them. He was an outside corner. He was an
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  Speaker 2: inside slot corner and nickel. He was a deep safety.
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  Speaker 2: He was a strong safety. He's done it all in
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  Speaker 2: the league, and we saw a So the story of
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  Speaker 2: today in practice will be is Julian Love practicing? And
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  Speaker 2: if he does today, even on a limited basis, that
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  Speaker 2: would be a step toward him. Playing against the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. This is the first full practice day of
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  Speaker 2: the week. Then they practice again tomorrow. Then they practice
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  Speaker 2: again Friday. Saturday is the walkthrough and Sunday is the game.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a cadence now that they settle into that
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  Speaker 2: we get to Sunday games. And, of course, the Sharks
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  Speaker 2: have two home games here, the Chargers and the 49ers back-to-back. But, yeah, Jessamyn,
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  Speaker 2: we saw– Julian loves value by him not being on
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  Speaker 2: the field in Washington, I think. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 4: That was, you know, subtraction by subtraction. People like to
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  Speaker 4: use the phrase addition by subtraction. That was subtraction by
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  Speaker 4: him not being there. And I'm really looking forward to
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  Speaker 4: seeing if he's out there or not because not only
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  Speaker 4: does he have all the instincts and all the versatility,
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  Speaker 4: but he is a leader, leader on this team.
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  Speaker 2: He is, for sure, in the locker room and on
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  Speaker 2: the field as well. And then the other thing I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to really be watching for all week, and I
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  Speaker 2: won't be able to see it at practice because they
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  Speaker 2: won't let us out there, but for the first 10
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  Speaker 2: minutes of them stretching, that's all we get. And that's
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  Speaker 2: true around the league. It's not just to the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: But Nick Emanwuri and his use. We're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this during the show. But in Washington, I had
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  Speaker 2: my binoculars on. We had a really odd angle in Washington.
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  Speaker 2: The press box is in the corner end zone. Great
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  Speaker 2: when they're on your end of the field, but really
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  Speaker 2: poor for the rest of the game. But I had
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  Speaker 2: my binoculars on Emanwuri. When he was in the game,
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  Speaker 2: he was almost exclusively at the edge of the defense
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  Speaker 2: on the line of scrimmage. And he mostly dropped into coverage,
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  Speaker 2: often against slot receivers. And that, of course, is not
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  Speaker 2: how Mike McDonald used him last year. He used him
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  Speaker 2: as a chess piece to move all over the board,
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  Speaker 2: brushing the quarterback, stacking against the run, taking wide receivers,
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  Speaker 2: taking backs out of the backfield, all kinds of roles.
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  Speaker 2: And he wasn't doing that in Washington. And so the
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  Speaker 2: harnessing was still on since that July arthroscopic ankle surgery.
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  Speaker 2: And I really want to see the harness come off
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  Speaker 2: and how this defense looks with him playing like he
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  Speaker 2: did last year. And Mike McDonald on Monday hinted that's coming.
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  Speaker 2: He said the coaches have to do a better job
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  Speaker 2: of playing Imanwari in different positions around the defense. And that,
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  Speaker 2: to me, means all three levels like last year. That
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  Speaker 2: means on the line of scrimmage. That means off-ball line,
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  Speaker 2: Sam linebacker. a strong sideline backer off the ball, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: in coverage, sometimes rushing, blitzing, and also means in coverage
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  Speaker 2: deeper as a state safety, strong and free, as they
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  Speaker 2: go a lot more dime. So there were many times
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  Speaker 2: in Washington that it was third and short, third and medium,
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  Speaker 2: and third and long that Eamon Worry wasn't even on
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  Speaker 2: the field.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they were easing him back in, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. They went from nine snaps in Arizona his
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  Speaker 2: season debut to 52% of the time, I think it
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  Speaker 2: was 28 of 62 or whatever it ended up being,
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  Speaker 2: 29 of 68 or something like that. But 52% of
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  Speaker 2: the snaps, and that's so far below what he was
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  Speaker 2: for them last year. He told me after the Arizona
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  Speaker 2: game he wanted 100% of the reps. He said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not coming out the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he wants that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Of course. Every player wants that. But it's
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  Speaker 2: obvious that Mike McDonald did not do that in only
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  Speaker 2: half the snaps in Washington. So how much more does
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  Speaker 2: Eamon Worre play? But more to the point, how many
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  Speaker 2: more roles does he play? Julian Love coming back would
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  Speaker 2: help that. And being able to free up Eamon Worre.
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  Speaker 2: to play up in all the different spots that he
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  Speaker 2: was last year. So that's on defense. The other thing
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at this week from the Seahawks and changing,
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  Speaker 2: their defense will change when Eamon Worre's use change, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: We saw that last year. So all things considered, you
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  Speaker 2: see some reason why they lost in 33 points and
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  Speaker 2: the three turnovers the offense gave them. The average drive starts,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, the three times the Seahawks turned the
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  Speaker 2: ball over in Washington, the average drive starts for the
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  Speaker 2: commanders off those turnovers, the Seahawks' 32-yard line. All three
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  Speaker 2: of the turnovers became touchdowns. That's 21 gifted points, and
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  Speaker 2: you lose by two. Very reminiscent to the last three
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  Speaker 2: losses the Seahawks had before that. You go back to
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  Speaker 2: week one of the 2025 season. Remember the 49ers game
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  Speaker 2: and the 49ers? Seahawks are marching inside the 10-yard line
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  Speaker 2: with 30 seconds left. And Nick Bosa pushed right tackle
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  Speaker 2: Abe Lucas into Sam Donald, who dropped the ball, lost
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  Speaker 2: it with 30 seconds left. 49ers recover. Seahawks lose the
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  Speaker 2: game by four points. Tampa Bay, early October of last year.
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  Speaker 2: Shootout game because of turnovers. Then late in the game,
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  Speaker 2: Darnold throws an interception off of a helmet of a
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  Speaker 2: Buccaneers lineman, much like the interception he had in the
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  Speaker 2: Commanders game on Sunday. And the Buccaneers are gifted plus
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  Speaker 2: field position for an easy field goal game over. They
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  Speaker 2: lose by two, I think it was, or three. And
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  Speaker 2: then the Los Angeles Rams game in November in Englewood.
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  Speaker 2: Darnold throws four interceptions. The Rams have drive starts inside
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  Speaker 2: the 10 and inside the 5-yard line. They scored 21
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  Speaker 2: points off those turnovers. Career-high interception day for Darnold, and
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  Speaker 2: they lose by only two. Three-turnover game, two interceptions by
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Darnold and Washington, and they lose by only two. Point being,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: the last four losses the Seahawks have had have all
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: been because of turnovers. And if the offense doesn't give
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the opponent a short field to score on this defense,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has reason and believes and has reason to
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: still believe No team is going to drive multiple times
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: down the field for multiple touchdowns on them. But when
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the offense turns the ball over, short fields, points, and
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: cheap points off the defense. And that's how they've lost
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: the last four times in the last two years.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the protect the ball kind of went out the
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: window in that game. And they still had a shot.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Right. They still lost by a day. They were one
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: defensive stop at the end of the way from getting
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the ball back in position to win the game. Yeah.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of people talk about turnover margin,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and Hugh Millen had a talk about turnover margin and
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the correlation of it, and there is more to it
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: than that. But with this defense, the way the Seahawks play,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: there aren't going to be many offenses that are going
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: to drive the field 75, 80 yards after a touchback
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: or a kickoff return to score touchdowns multiple times a
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: game against this defense. So therein lies the key. Don't
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: turn the ball over and give the offense, the other team,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: a short field to score points. But 49451, Tacoma Dodge
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: text line, the first question I asked was, what do
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: you love about October and is it the best sports
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: month of the year? But two, we're going to talk
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: a lot about the Mariners' next manager. Who do you
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: want it to be? Who do you want the manager
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: for the Mariners to be next post Dan Wilson? Tori
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Lavella is getting names thrown out there a lot. Some
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: people on the text line saying Jay Buhner yesterday. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: don't think that's happening.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think he would want to go through
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the same process that Dan Wilson went through because he
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: coached in the Futures game during All-Star in 2023, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I think he does some coaching with his family. But
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: that is not, I think, what they're going for because
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Jerry DePoto also said in his press conference that it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: not a prerequisite, but it is preferred if someone has
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: actual managerial experience.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, and from the outside the organization. Yep. With a
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: new look and a new culture. And as he, as
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Gepodo put it, maybe to see our blind spots that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: we're not seeing in the process and the playing and
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the culture of the team. So it would appear it's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: going to be from outside. It would appear it will
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: not be a Dan Wilson redo of a Seahawks legend
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: like a Jay Buhner, although he would be more of
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: a kick in the ass guy, you would think then.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, bench coach, let's go.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: He'll get himself ejected before a manager does.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Who do you want the Mariners to hire as the
• 18:24
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  Speaker 2: win $ 1, 000. But up next, we're going to talk about
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks. They say they're fine. They're not throwing stuff around.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: They're not chicken littles out here at Renton. But they've
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: got issues. They're addressing those issues. We'll tell you what
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: they are next on 93.3 KJRFM. We've apparently entered the
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Cinco de Mayo portion of the show. Greg Bell, Justin
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: McIntyre with you at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in Renton.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Wasn't necessarily the one that I meant to play.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It works. Whatever.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I liked it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I like the other one better. Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: We are in football season.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. So the Seahawks are heading into their
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: fourth game of the season against the Los Angeles Chargers
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: on Saturday.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Losers for only the fourth time since the beginning of
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: last season, and the first time in 10 months. Their
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: franchise record 12-game winning streak is over. They had been
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: 16-2 on the road, the best in the NFL since 2024,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: before they turned the ball over three times at Washington,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: lost to the Commanders. 33 31 this past weekend demarcus
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: lawrence in the locker room the 13 year veteran outside
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: linebacker told me in washington we're the dark side defense
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: trust me we aren't going nowhere they played a good
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: game you know but at the end of the day
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: it's all about us they played a great game we
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: played a bad game But that's not to say the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Seahawks don't have issues to fix, and that's what Mike
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: McDonald and his coaching staff are focusing on right now
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: in the morning meeting, and they're in a walk-through practice
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: right now, and then Mike McDonald's going to talk to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the media at 12. There'll be an open locker room,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: press conferences with players, usually Cooper Cup comes in, Leonard
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Williams comes in on Wednesday, and then they go out
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to practice. Injury report, the first one of the week,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: issued at about 4 o'clock, 3.30 today, and we'll be
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: looking to see if Julian Love is there. practicing today
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: after missing the commanders game, but loves injury is just
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: one issue. The most glaring one on offense, of course,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: is the running back. Did Ari and price their rookie
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: number one pick in the lead running back to replace
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker has fumbled in each of his last two games.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: He got benched during the commanders game from much of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the game, set most of the first half in a
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: raincoat on the sidelines, watching Emmanuel Wilson run. And we
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: saw Wilson does not have the game breaking speed, the moves,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the cuts, the He's the short yardage back who got
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: 91 yards in Arizona, but maybe Arizona's bad. And he
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: was not fast. The difference between Price and Wilson was
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like a Porsche and AMC Eagle back in the 70s.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It was not even close.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I know. There are only a few listeners probably about
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the age of 50 who know what I'm talking about.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Pinto or Yugo or you name a car
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: that doesn't go fast and that's what Emmanuel Wilson looked
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like a dump truck.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Was it like the Chevy Nova?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Kind of like a joke because Nova means no-go in Spanish.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Chevy Chevette. You name it back in the day.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: That's what Emmanuel Wilson compared to Jaron Price. Price is
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the Porsche and the Lamborghini, but he's dropping the ball.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And so they sent him, like I mentioned, they were
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: willing to sacrifice the offense for a game to have
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a long-term message to the rookie to hold on to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the ball so he can get back on the field.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: This is what Mike McDonald said about Price and his
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: fumbling and where they go from here.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: With your offensive running game yesterday, how much of it,
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: I guess, do you look at was Washington's a really
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: good defense versus things you guys could have done better?
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: And then just with Zidarian as well, when you looked
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: at his fumble, just kind of what you saw there
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: and what's the teaching point there?
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: It's both.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: Credit to Washington. Did a great job. And also, we
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: feel like there's plenty of room to grow. So, I
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: think it's a function of in real-time execution and also
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: finding solutions as the game goes, also the way the
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: game was going of some things we wanted to be
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: able to do offensively in the pass game and in
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: the screen game. So I think it's a process thing.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: I think we stick to our process. And really with
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: our whole team right now, the message after the game
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: was I think we'd feel the same way after the game.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: whether or not we closed it out and found a
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: way to win or the way it shook out. So,
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: you know, really kind of in every tentacle from coming
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: out of the game of where can we grow, how
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: can we make our process better, that's been the mentality
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: every day, or today at least. And so with J.D.,
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, he understands what's going on. He needs to
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: take care of the ball. I think there's some things
• 23:27
  Speaker 7: fundamentally where we can focus on and we're going to
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: continue to give him the ball. We trust him. And
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: we know that he's going to work really hard to
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: do his part as well.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: We're going to continue to give him the ball. We
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: trust him. And Mike McDonald is probably a man of
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: his word there, publicly backing his running back. And to
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: show that, he's going to probably give the ball to him, Price,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: quite a bit early in the game against the Chargers.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't you think, Jessamyn?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I would absolutely think so.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: And I think just publicly giving him that back because,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, for instance, our kicker at Washington State has
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: had a case of the yips in the beginning of
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the year. And then he actually performed this past weekend.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: And I think just trotting him back out there and
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: not going for it on fourth and showing that kind
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: of confidence that you have of him of getting right.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: And just after that first one that he made, you
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: could see that he was right. And I think the
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: same goes for Jadarian Price, because you're.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Still showing the confidence.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And I think that everything in his brain is going
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: to be protect the ball, protect the ball, protect the ball.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said that after the game in Washington. He
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: told me, I got to change my mindset. Instead of
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: fighting for extra yards and try to get every yard
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I can, every blade of grass, that cliche we hear
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: all the time around here, he needs to first think
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: about protecting the ball. And if it means fewer yards,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: so be it. That's what he's going to have to
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: do to stay on the field. And he knows that.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I'm sure he's had
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: really good conversations with Sam Darnold, who was not happy
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: with his Super Bowl performance, even though he won the game.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Even though the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, he wasn't
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: happy with that, but he knew that his main goal
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: was to protect the ball.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I asked Darnold after the Washington game if he talked
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: to the rookie, and we'll talk to the rookie, or
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: he just leaves him alone. He said, no, I'll encourage him.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I will talk to him. He's not going to just
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: leave him alone. Remember, these are the first two, not
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: an excuse, but a fact. These are the first three
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: pro games of Jadarian Price's career. He's never played before
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: because he didn't play any of the preseason games. He
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: hadn't played since last November. So it's preseason for him,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: although the games count now. So I wonder next time
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: if the Seahawks could do it over, they might give
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: the rookie running back they're going to rely on a
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: few carries in the preseason instead of making his first
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: carries when the games actually count. 49451 on the Tacoma
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Dodge text line. How do you feel, Mike McDonald? Brian Fleury,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Thomas Hammock, the running back coach, handled that Jadarian Price
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: fumbling in Washington and the benching. And whether you thought
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that was justified and the right message and subverting the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: offense for a day, really losing a game over it,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: running the ball only 18 times in total while throwing
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it 45 times while Price was on the bench for
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: most of the, really the last three and a half quarters.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: He only ran the ball twice, Jessamyn, after the 11-minute
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: mark of the first quarter when he fumbled.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: It's the rest of the game. Five carries, 15 yards total,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and that was a message sent. It cost them the
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: game on offense. Turning the ball over did two. Two
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: more Sam Darnold interceptions, one off a defensive lineman's helmet,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: one a just horrid forced play into a crowded middle
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: of the field trying to get to A.J. Barner, that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: backup linebacker for Washington, intercepted in return for the clinching touchdown.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: That didn't help either. But the offense, not scoring on
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the goal line, three consecutive passing completions on second and
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: goal from the two. That stemmed from the offense not
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: being able to run the ball. And Chuck was asking
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: me a lot about what I saw in those third
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and fourth down pass plays on those failed fourth downs.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And I said I saw a lot of covered Seahawks
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: because the commanders were dropping into coverage, not crowding the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage with any threat that the Seahawks were
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: going to run the ball. And if you don't have
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a threat to run near the goal line, you're going
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to get 6, 7, 8 in coverage over a 10-yard
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: end zone box. That's a hard thing for a receiver
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to get open. And you saw Donald in that fourth down.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: running to his left, to his right, couldn't find anybody open,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: finally throwing late and incomplete to A.J. Barner. So they've
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: got to run. And to run, they've got to have
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Jadarian Price on the field. It's why they drafted him.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: It's why he replaced Kenneth Walker. It's why they chose
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: to let Walker walk for the big money to Kansas City. Okay,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: now Jadarian Price in the second, or excuse me, Julian
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Love in the secondary. Is he going to play? Well,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald had this to say about Love's status for
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: this week.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: Hey, Mike.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask, when you rewatched the tape,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: what did you see from your two safeties in this game,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and do you anticipate that either Julian Love or Ty Okada.
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: Will be able to practice this week?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: Guys played good football. They communicated. There's some opportunities out
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: there that I think both would say that we'd like
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: to be able to take advantage of next time. As
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: far as Julian goes, it's a day-to-day thing right now.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: So.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: We'll see how that shakes out. I know he did
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: some extensive work this morning and it went well, so
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: we'll see how that translates to Wednesday and moving forward.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: We'll see today if Julian Love practices. If he does,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: even in a limited fashion, that means that calf injury
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: is improving and there's a chance he will play against
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the Chargers on Sunday at Lumen Field. First, let's go
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: to Nicky Morris. Stay in the secondary. Nicky Manwari, I
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: mentioned at the top of the show, they did not
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: use him in Washington like they did last year. He
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: was mainly on the edge of the line of scrimmage,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: in the slot, and often dropping into coverage. He rarely
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: ran into the backfield blitzing or rushing unless they were
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: running away from him and leaving him unblocked off the
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: opposite edge. That was about the only time I saw
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: him rushing into the backfield. I mean, they were blitzing
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Drake Thomas more than they were Nicky Manwari. Mike McDonald
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: was in Washington. Only 52% of the snaps... This is
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: what Mike McDonald said to expect going forward with Nicky Manwari.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I thought Nick had a good game. There's some really
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: great plays. It'll continue to get better. I think he
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: should be really proud of how he's approached last week mentally.
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: I think that's one of the things to answer Brian's question.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: It's something that we want to discuss as a staff.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: It's just what the process is every week of how, where,
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: and how often he plays. We can have a really focused.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: Game plan because where he plays really affects the position
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: group around him because he's playing out of really three
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: position groups. So that's something we'll continue to think about
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: and make better. But he's done a great job.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Where and how often he plays, that's something we're going
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to continue to think about and make better. I'd expect
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: more of a full Nick Emanuari 2025 experience for the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Seahawks defense. on Sunday against the Chargers. That can only
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: make the defense better and confuse the offense more aware
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of where the heck number three is lining up and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: coming from. It would sure help if Julian Love was
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: playing to help backfill and keep stable in the back.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: They let Eamon Worry run around the field and do
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things in the defense. That would be
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: the perfect situation for Seattle on defense this week to
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: get back Love and have Eamon Worry in his 2025 role.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Rasheed Shahid for a minute. He's been
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: hesitant on kickoff and punt returns, especially punt returns, but he,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: in Washington, didn't have many people blocking for him. I mean,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: there were two or three commanders waiting for him as
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the ball was arriving, which is why a couple times
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: he either fair-caught it or let it bounce. I don't
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: think I'd be taking the ball with three unblocked guys
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: charging the 40, 50-yard head start at me either. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: easy for us to say, why is he not returning it? Well,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: he needs to have people blocking for him. The punt
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: return blocking, the kickoff return blocking... The punt coverage and
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: the kickoff coverage have all been subpar. The Commanders had
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: way too many kick and punt returns for field position
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: switches that the Seahawks rely on to be in their
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: favor and were last year. Last year, they had the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: best special teams in the league by most metrics, all metrics, really.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And this year, it's not been the case. And so far,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald has not been happy with his special teams.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: This is what he had to say about that.
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, to put it plainly, it's... It's not
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: good enough. There's things process-wise we can improve on, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: we've talked about this throughout training camp and really since
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: we got here, but a Seahawk play needs to look
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: like a Seahawk play. There's plays on tape that we're
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: not doing that. The standard is higher on special teams here.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: We've proven that. The guys will get it right, but
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: there's definitely a sense of urgency to make it look
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: like us and to play our style of ball on teams.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: Is Irv Charles potentially going to fit into that here
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: down the line?
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: I know that he's eligible to return here after.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: The next game.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Everybody is eligible to play on our special teams units.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: No one is exempt from special teams consideration.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: That was Corbin Smith of Emerald Spectrum asking about Irvin
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Charles who's on the injured reserve list, a veteran in
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: the NFL who has played special teams for years. And
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald using that as a way to say, I
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: might put starters in so many words.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Nobody's exempt is a pretty strong statement.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They need to get Shahid going. They're not getting
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the return on the $ 17 million per year. He's got
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: 12 pass targets through three games, three in the opener,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: six in Arizona, three on Sunday in Washington. Smith and Jake,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of course, had 14 targets by himself at Washington. A
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: running game sure would help Shahid. He'd get the play-action
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: pass and draw on the defense, the middle of defenses
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage, and that would get Shahid
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a chance to get by them for the deep throws.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Chuck Powell asked me this morning about fans and people
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: have been talking about keeping Shahid over bringing back Kenneth Walker.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Not related. They had both cash and cap space. to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: re-sign both of those guys. And they made a value
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: judgment on Walker and his position and decided they didn't
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: want to spend $ 15 million plus a year at running back.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: And they did at kick return, punt return, and wide receiver.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: They could have afforded both. And they chose instead to
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: draft Price, have him at a rookie salary for four
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: years with a fifth-year option by making him the number
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: one pick. But I wouldn't say, well, because they brought
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Shahid back, they let Walker go. They could have had
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: them both. They just chose at the running back position
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and not spend that much money. So it's easy to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: say now, does struggling start for Price and for Shahid,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: but that's not how it went down. Up next, let's
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: go back to the Mariners and who they might be
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: enamored with as their next manager. Torrey Lovello is getting
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of talk. We'll tell you why. We'll talk
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: about Steven Vogt. He's the manager of the Cleveland Guardians
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: who go to the playoffs every year. They're the number
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: two seed sitting back waiting for a wild card team
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to play in the playoffs, he's still under contract with
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Cleveland for a while. And I will tell you something
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: that I've covered in my career related to a situation
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: like this of a team hiring a coach and a manager.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Mariners managerial search next. 11 o'clock,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: we'll go to Los Angeles and talk to the Chargers play-by-play,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: radio play-by-play guy, Matt Money-Smith, about what's wrong in L.A.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: with the Chargers who come in to Seattle on Sunday. And,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of course, 1135 Factor Fiction all coming up from the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Seahawks headquarters in Renton on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to the show. Greg Bell, Jessamyn McIntyre with you as
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: we are every weekday, 10 a.m. to noon here on
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM in Seattle. I'm at Seahawks headquarters in Renton
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: where they're practicing today. First full practice of the game
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: week before they play the Los Angeles Chargers, the 0-3
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Chargers Sunday at Lumen Field. First of two consecutive home games.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks play the 49ers a week from this coming
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Sunday in a week five game. And then they go
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to Denver Thursday night on a short week, October 15th.
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: The 11th.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That's the next three for the Seahawks. We'll talk at
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock to Matt Moneysmith, the play-by-play announcer for the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers on what's going on down there with
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh's Justin Herbert struggles, Mike McDaniel, the new offensive
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: play caller struggles. We'll talk Chargers, the Seahawks' next opponent,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and our weekly feature of opponents of the Seahawks at
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock today. The Mariners are now into the second
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: day of their managerial search that President of Baseball Operations
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto said was going to be, quote, exhaustive. Already
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: emerging as a leading candidate, Torrey Lavello. He's the 10-year
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: manager of the Arizona Diamondbacks. He won the National League
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: title and went to the World Series in 2023 when
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: he was the manager of the year. Arizona's the one
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: managerial job he's had. He's a former infielder. He played
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: eight major league seasons for the Tigers, Yankees, Angels, Phillies, A's, Cleveland, and, yes,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: for the Mariners. 36 games for the M's in 1994.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: He's 61 years old. He's known for having rich relationships
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: with his Diamondbacks players. Why are people talking about Torrey
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Lovello as a prime candidate? Well, his Arizona contract ended
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: this past weekend when the Diamondbacks didn't make the playoffs.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: MLB.com reported that the Diamondbacks and Lovello have not talked
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: about a new deal, or at least hadn't as of
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: the start of this week. This week, KTAR Radio in
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Phoenix said, On it, Diamondbacks president and CEO Derek Hall,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: not the Seahawks linebacker, but the Diamondbacks president.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Not the one that builds trucks in his driveway that
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: smashes cameras and drives all the time. The other Derek Hall,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks president and CEO, said of Lavello, he said
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: this on the air, on the record, quote, if he
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: walks out this door, he's going to get a job
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: in a heartbeat, and he should, because I do think
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: he's one of the best managers in the game. That's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: a weird thing for the team president to say if
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: the team is about to re-sign their manager, isn't it?
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I think it means that he has free reign to
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: explore options.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It sure does. It sounds like it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Which is odd. It is very odd.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: It just brings me back to Jermaine Curse after the
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl when his contract ran up. I don't know why,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: but it just seemed like hometown discount. I remember him
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: saying on the air, but not that much. They kind
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: of just let him walk.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Of course, he was a former undrafted free agent from
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Lakewood and from UW when Go got his, when he
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: got his. Lovello has said he wants to stay in Arizona,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: but he also says he, quote, wants to be wanted.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: He later clarified that and told reporters in Arizona it
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: wasn't that he didn't feel wanted in the Diamondbacks organization.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: But let's face it, his contract's over and they haven't
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: re-upped or even talked about it yet.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for his next job, regardless of where it would be.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: He wants to be wanted. And that doesn't discount the,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you know, the Diamondbacks. But he wants to feel wanted,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: which is pay me.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: That's what I would say. And yeah, I mean, that's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: how I feel about jobs that I take.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Mike Benton is going to be on hosting for
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: me tomorrow. I have to run down to the Bay Area.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: A close friend of mine passed away in memorial service tomorrow.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Very sorry about that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thank you. Thanks for saying that. Thanks for
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: bringing in. Mike Benton in the fold tomorrow. Mike Wagerman,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: by the way, great guy. Covered the Raiders with him.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Going to his memorial service tomorrow. It would have been
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: his 60th birthday tomorrow, October 1st.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Way too young.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Hats off to Wags. But Mike Benton's going to be
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: in here tomorrow. He is the college classmate and friends
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: with Stephen Vogt. You know who Stephen Vogt is? Stephen
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Vogt and Mike Benton went to Azusa Pacific, I learned
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: this morning from Mike. Yep. And tomorrow, Mike Benton said
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: he's going to campaign for Steven Vogt to be the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: new manager. I hope I'm not talking out of turn here.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: I'm all in.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I am all in. Who's Steven Vogt? He's 41 years old.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: He's the manager of the Cleveland Guardians, who are the
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: number two seed in the American League playoffs, just waiting
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: for an opponent to finalize itself in the first round
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: of the playoffs this week. Vogt, this is the first
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: time as a manager in Cleveland. He has won the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: AL Central. He's won a division title in each of
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the first three years he's been a manager, including this one.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: This is a different situation than Lavello, though, because before
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: the 2025 season, Vogt signed a contract extension with Cleveland.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It really quiet, under the radar. The Guardians really never
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: announced it. It just came out. It's believed to be
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: through 2028. So if the Mariners wanted to– and why
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: are the Mariners even linked to him? Well, he and
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: his wife, Stephen Vogt and his wife, have an off-season
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: home in Tumwater. And they come here a lot. And
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: they have a lot of ties to the Pacific Northwest
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and to Washington and Western Washington in particular. this is
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: somewhat reminiscent to what I lived with in my very
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: first beat writing, second beat writing job after I covered
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the A's, I covered the Oakland Raiders. And the Oakland
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Raiders traded their coach, John Gruden, when he was still
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: up and coming, young, blonde, just catch me out. Traded
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: him to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Al Davis traded a
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: coach still under contract to the Raiders, John Gruden, for cash.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: He was strapped for cash. He had a stadium in Oakland,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: an aging stadium. It wasn't making him money. And for
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars, he sent John Gruden to Tampa Bay.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Traded him. And then? Nine months later, John Gruden stuck
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: it up Al Davis' rear end and won the Super
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Bowl over the Raiders.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: That's my favorite part of that.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I think I told you the story of seeing John
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Gruden under the stadium in San Diego right after that
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl ended. He turns the corner and sees us
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Raider beat writers. And he says, what'd you think of that? Blank.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: with a huge grin on his face, high-fiving us. He
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: was so reveling in it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: And of note also, my good friend Raheem Morris was
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: a quality control coach in his first job in the
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: NFL for John Gruden at that team.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: That team destroyed the Raiders. They knew every play that
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: was coming because the Raiders didn't change their calls when
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Gruden was a coach. That's a whole other story. But
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: could the Mariners trade one of their starting pitchers that
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: everyone loves? one of their top prospects for Steven Vogt,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the Cleveland manager. Wow. Who's still under contract. Could that happen?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: How many times have you seen that happen in baseball?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: In baseball, I've never seen it happen. Me neither. Is
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: it possible? It is possible. Okay. And if someone's under contract,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you trade an asset to get them. Now, someone may
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: correct me and say Major League Baseball rules are against it.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I don't believe it is impossible.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Could they make that trade? I don't know that it's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: even been done in baseball, but it has been done
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in the NFL and has been done in other sports.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: But the point is, is that Steven Vogt, as popular
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: as he is to those of us here in the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest, especially people in Tumwater, is still under contract
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and Torrey Lovello isn't. You're going to hear those names
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: floating around in the Mariners' managerial searches, among others, but
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: just wanted to throw that out there. It was a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: good memory of John Gruden getting traded to Tampa Bay.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Up next, let's go to present-day NFL. As a matter
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of fact, this week, whom the Seahawks are facing. That's
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Chargers. They're 0-3. What's going on with
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the Chargers? We're going to find out next from Maddie Money-Smith,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: the play-by-play announcer for Chargers Radio, who joins us next.
• 42:43
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• 42:46
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• 42:49
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• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
• 43:03
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• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Good morning from Seahawks headquarters. Headlines are brought to you
• 43:07
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• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are returning to practice today after their loss in
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Washington and a normal player's day off on Tuesday. Practicing
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: for their game Sunday against the 0-3 Los Angeles Chargers.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: The story of practice today is whether Julian Love is
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: going to be in it. The Pro Bowl veteran's safety
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: missed the Washington game with a calf injury. Coach Mike
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: McDonald said Monday Love may practice this week. The coach
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: talks at about 12.30 here today. Amazon reportedly has a
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: deal to extend Kirk Herbstreet as their television analyst for
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: its Thursday night NFL package, but The Athletic is also
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: reporting the extension as an outcause if Rams coach Sean
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: McVay wants to quit football and get into broadcasting football.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Two days after the Mariners announced Dan Wilson is out
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: as Mariners manager. One day after President Jerry DiPoto said
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the team is in a new culture and a new
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: leader from outside the franchise. Multiple reports of the M's
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: top candidate as Arizona Diamondbacks manager Torrey Lavello. We talked
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: about him last segment. Lavello's contract with Arizona just ended
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: when the Diamondbacks didn't make the playoffs. Those playoffs began
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: yesterday with game one's. Best of three wild card series.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: All these teams are now on the cusp of winning
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: a series in game two today. The Braves, who beat
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: the Phillies yesterday. The White Sox, who beat the Trash Cans.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: The Yankees, who beat the Red Sox. And the Padres,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: who blanked the Cubs. Game two is beginning at 11
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: o'clock right now, actually, today. NHL season began last night
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: with five games, including Vancouver taking a three-goal lead at Edmonton,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: blowing that lead. And then the Canucks winning in overtime
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: in a banger game, 6-5. Kraken's opener is tomorrow, 6 p.m.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: At Calgary.
• 44:39
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• 44:43
  Speaker 2: home opener is Sunday evening at Climate Pledge Arena, also
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: against Calgary, and also right here on KJR. The Packers'
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: offensive line's a mess. That's why Green Bay has signed
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: former Seahawks guard Lakin Tomlinson off the Cowboys practice squad.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: The Packers also signed former first-round pick Mekhi Becton to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the Green Bay practice squad, and today the Packers are
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: signing former first-round pick and guard Kevin Zeitler. Packs one
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: and two. That's why the NFL flexed Green Bay's game
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: next week with Chicago from the late Sunday window to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: the early Sunday TV window. That clears 49ers at Seahawks
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: next week for the National Game of the Week on
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Fox in the late Sunday afternoon window. But before they
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: get to there, the Seahawks have to play the Chargers
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: on Sunday at Lumen Field. The Chargers are surprisingly 0-3,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: coming off their loss in Buffalo, a narrow loss where
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: they created a lot of turnovers. But their offense still
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: isn't performing to what was expected when they brought new
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Play caller Mike McDaniel and the former Dolphins coach to
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: work with quarterback Justin Herbert. It's just not working so
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: far in Los Angeles. Here to talk about it is
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the Chargers play-by-play announcer, Matt Moneysmith from Los Angeles, joining
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Good morning to you, sir.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: Good morning to you, sir. How are you, Greg? Thanks
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: for having me.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: You are welcome. You are welcome. Thanks for being on.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: So we all see from afar the Chargers are 0-3.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: If you can pinpoint reasons why, what would that be?
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: Offense is not, you know, launched yet. It's just kind
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: of stuck in the blocks. It feels like opening drives
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: have been good. And then the rest of the game,
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: there's not a lot there for whatever reason. And I
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: think there's probably a number of things you can point
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: to one interior, the offensive line, particularly right guard has
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: been A little bit of an issue. Receivers aren't really
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: separating as much as we thought. Take another step this
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: year with Mike McDaniel. We've seen Sanjay Lal, who's been
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: their wide receiver coach now since actually Brandon Staley was there.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: So he has worked with Q, Quentin Johnston, to see
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: him take these incremental steps and getting better year after year.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: I thought Ladd was going to have a big breakout
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: year this year, and he's been good. He's just been
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: dinged up. But I think probably the big driving force
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: is we had an idea that Omari and Hampton could
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: perhaps lead the league in rushing and that Justin Herbert
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: would be a viable MVP candidate. And the two of
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: them just have not looked natural or very comfortable in
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: this offense through three games.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Ladd McConkie real quick because I talked
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: to Farhan Lajji, a friend of mine who covered Chargers
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: training camp last month, and he told me, Greg, the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Chargers don't want anyone to throw to really. No deep
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: threats that defenses have to game plan against. Keenan Allen's
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: not there anymore. McConkie, you mentioned, had a crack rib
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: to start the season. He only has 12 catches through
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: two weeks. Do the Chargers have enough receiving-wise to make
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: defenses have to play them honestly, or is McConkie just
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: getting a preponderance of coverage?
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's it. I mean, he's really kind
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: of been their singular offensive threat. You know, the tight ends.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: Njoku had a really nice first game, and, you know,
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: was a big part of the reason why they lost
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: to the Raiders with, you know, just didn't unexplainable, inexplainable
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: turnover that led to an interception. But, you know, I don't,
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: I just, I guess if you just throw it in
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: the category of deep threat. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: really not one, you know, they've been throwing downfield, the
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: five foot eight, 165 pound Darius Davis, who really never
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: was able to crack the rotation the previous three years.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: So um, they're searching, uh, Brennan Thompson being hurt. Doesn't help.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: You know, he's certainly a guy with legitimate four, two
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: speed that would help take that top off, but he's
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: had drop issues as a rookie here early on and
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: he's not out there. Uh, he's been dinged up. So yeah,
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: I think, I think that's a part of it. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: think the fact that tight ends have, have not been
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: kind of what we thought they were going to be
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: as well. Obviously injuries, a part of that within Joku
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: with a broken leg and now Kolar out with a
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: hamstring and I think that's what it is or might
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: be something else. I mean, everyone's so dinged up. I
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: can't keep the injury straight. But to kind of answer
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: your question, yeah, I don't think there's anyone that's able
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: to take the top off of this thing to try
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: to help Ladd out. Now, he's still able to beat
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: coverage on his own. I think, you know, they're just
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: kind of keeping him on a little bit of a
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: snap count right now with the injury against the Raiders
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: when he took that shot to his back.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cracked rib. Tough to breathe, let alone play football with.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: This is Matt Money-Smith. He's the play-by-play announcer for the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: before the Chargers come up here Sunday to play the Seahawks.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, the result of all of this you just
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: outlined is that Justin Herbert is suddenly a sub-60% passer.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: That number jumped out at me. He's got three touchdowns
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: against four interceptions, third most interceptions in the league. He's
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: been sacked eight times to your point about the offensive
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: line and issues a guard eight times in three games.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: And of quarterback, you know this map, but of quarterbacks
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: who have played multiple games this year, Justin Herbert is
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: ranked 30th in passer rating. What's going on there? You
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: mentioned some of the contributing factors, but what do you
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: see how Justin Herbert has handled this and what might
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: be going on with him personally on the field?
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's kind of a salad of bad.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of ingredients to it. So, one, I
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: don't know if he's entirely comfortable with the scheme and
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: all of the pre-snap motions, considering it is five years
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: prior to this. there was almost nothing. They were one
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: of the least pre-snap motion teams in the league. And
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: now he's orchestrating, you know, this offense that he's essentially
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: gone from, you know, GE math to advanced calculus with
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: what he's asked to do prior to the snap and
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: make sure everybody's set. And we've had all these pre-snap
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: penalties and there's just like a lot of that going
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: on pre-snap. That's one, two, three, Kind of the first
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: thing Mike McDaniel said in his diagnosis after watching every
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: single Justin Herbert snap of his career was we got
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: to get the ball out quick. Like this is a
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: guy that's been hanging on to the ball too long.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: When he does get it out in under 2.4 seconds,
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: great things happen. He's got like a one 18 passer
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: rating and it's one of the best passer ratings in
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: the league and the numbers. And he went through all
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: of those advanced analytics and, And Herbert just won't do it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: Like there's, there's quick completions on these street three-step drops
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: that he's supposed to hit or these RPOs where you
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: got to pull that trigger right away that he's just
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: not doing it. You know, whether it's a Marian Hampton
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: or Darius Davis in the flat, the guys that are
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: the motion guys that are typically the recipients of those
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: quick action passes. Like, I think they are pre-snap motion 74%
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: of the time, number one in the league. And the
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: motion player is the target of the play 5% of
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: the time, the lowest in the league. And so I
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: think it's stuff like that that's just got to, there's
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: got to be a comfort level that's found where you
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: run and execute the play that was called and you
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: just trust it. And I think there's still that sort of,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: you know, whether it's getting used to it or believing
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: in it, sort of situation that he's got to get
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: more comfortable with and just get through and just pull
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: the trigger and start throwing some of these quick passes
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: that the play has drawn up to kind of lead to.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Money Smith is the play-by-play announcer for the Chargers. His
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: voice here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline before the Chargers
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and Seahawks play on Sunday. Okay, Mike McDaniel. I had
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein. She's the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: We have her on every Tuesday. And yesterday when I
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: asked her about the Chargers, she said when she's talked
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: to people around the league, they're not sure. They think,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: in fact, it's not working. The mesh between Mike McDaniel
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and how he wants to play offense and how Jim
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Harbaugh wants to run an offense and how he wants
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: his offense to be. What have you noticed about that relationship?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Is it awkward? It seems to be different philosophies for sure,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: if not personalities.
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I'd say it's awkward. I think
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: they're both very eclectic personalities. But Coach Harbaugh has been
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: nothing but effusive in praise. Through training camp, after week one,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: week two, even his latest presser yesterday said that there
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: are no plans to change the play call or to
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: change the scheme to do any of that. So I
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: think he's still... has faith in, in coach McGann. I
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: think it's hard to argue, right? The guy has been
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: part of offenses, every single place he's gone that have
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: been exceptional, you know, whether it's as a run game coordinator,
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: as a quarterback coaches and OC as a head coach.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: So I think it's just trying to figure out what's
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: going wrong with this one. Why, why is this particular
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: iteration not working? Did they have the wrong personnel? Is
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: it just a single person? sort of issue on every
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: single play, whether that's guard protection situations or allowing backside
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: defenders to chase runners down? Is it running backs not
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: picking the right slot to hit and instead continually trying
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: to bounce this thing outside and go for the home run?
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: And it's leading the second and nines and third and
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: eights instead of second and fives and third and twos.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: And so I think as they try to diagnose that, ultimately,
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: For me, from what I've seen, it comes down to
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel, and are they comfortable? Is
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel comfortable that Justin Herbert's going to run the
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: play and have the hot read or have the first
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: option or run through the progressions that he anticipates he's
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: going to do, and does Justin Herbert trust the play
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: that's coming into his helmet? I was watching, and I
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: don't know, I have not been able to kind of
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: do the autopsy on it, but they had a first
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: and goal from the three. They were on the pistol,
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: and it looked like it was set up to be
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: a pass play. Herbert changed the play, got under center,
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: handed off to Omari and Hampton, and they've got a
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: second and goal from the one. And next thing you know,
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: instead of just getting right back on it and either
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: handing it to your 225 pound back or sneaking it
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: with your 240 pound quarterback, they're huddling, they break huddle.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Now we've got a motion. Now we've got a secondary motion, bang,
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: false start, next snap, false start. It's kind of that
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: sort of stuff that I think is leading to that disconnect,
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: you know, of, do I really, do we really need
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: to be doing this? Like, They had to play against
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: the Raiders where it's a third and one. And again,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: same thing, huddle up. Here comes a motion center snaps
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: the ball right into Trey Harris's knee as he's motioning
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: through from right to left. And it's nearly a turnover
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: and they have to punt. I think it's those sort
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: of instances where, as you alluded to Greg, like the
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh idea of just, Hey, we're running this ball
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: or we're sneaking this ball and look at these cool
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: orbit and horseshoe motions and watch what we're going to
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: get here. Like it's just not that part of it's
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: not good.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Matt Money-Smith, the play-by-play announcer for the Los Angeles Chargers.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You also, for years, I mean, it's been like almost
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: 20 years, you've co-hosted a show with Petros Papadakis back
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, down there in Los Angeles. We got
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: to ask you about that because Petros is a weekly
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: guest of Dave Softy Mahler on our show in the afternoons,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and they have a rollicking time. And his personality, his neurosis,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: Petros is, what's that like? So many years being a
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: co-host with Petros, and that sounds like a rollicking time. Yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: it's fun.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: It's, uh, it's our 20th year. So pretty wild that
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: I think we're the longest. I don't think I know
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: we are the longest running continuous in its time slot.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: I know that's a lot of qualifiers, but basically we're
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: the longest running afternoon drive show in Los Angeles, which
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: is hard to do. So, um, Clearly, when they put
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: us together, they figured something out. It's been really fun.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: I think we both share a similar sense of humor.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: We both get each other in trouble a little bit
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: because one will egg the other on. And next thing
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: you know, you've gone too far and you're in the
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: boss's office having a meeting about what was said and
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: how we approached it, which I think kind of keeps
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: things fun for us. He's incredibly smart. And like I said,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: it's just You don't know. I don't think he knows
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of times where I'm going to go. I
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: don't know where he's going to go. Yesterday, we must
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: have just spent, of our four hours, two hours just
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: laughing and replaying the USC radio call against Oregon over
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: and over again. And I just could not get off
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: of the sideline analyst saying... He slid feet first. His
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: feet are pointing forward after Pete Arbogast said that Dante
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: Moore dove, and it was clear that he dove. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: he said, why is he laying with his feet first?
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: And Deet said, well, it's because he was head first,
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: and they spun him around. Yeah. It's just stupid things
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: like that that entertain us for hours upon hours that
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: maybe people don't think are funny when they first hear it,
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: but we pound it into the ground to the point
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: where now they're along for the ride. I know that
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: was a long explanation that might not make sense to
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: people listening, but it's just those sort of moments that
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: keep things fresh and fun when you're 20 years into
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: a business partnership where you've got to try to entertain
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: each other along with the audience every day for four hours.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you about USC because our Washington Huskies
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: go down there for a game on Saturday, and it
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: looks like a pivotal game on where the season's maybe
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: headed after USC's loss to Oregon and Washington's loss to
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Minnesota at home. Where is USC? Jen Cohen, the athletic director,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: we all know her here. Fife Gallup, she used to
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: be the Washington athletic director, of course, before she got
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: to USC. Is the patience wearing thin for Lincoln Riley?
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Are the donors going to really step up and buy
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: him out? What's the USC situation right now, you think?
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: I think you hit it. on all fronts on that,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: you know, just kind of the setup there, Greg. Yeah.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, do they want to keep him around? No.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Do they have $ 70 million to buy him out, to
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: buy out his assistance, to maybe buy out the GM
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: that they just signed. So a big time head coach
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: can bring their own person in that they want to run.
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: their program? Probably not. It's a big number, you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: and it took.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Them a lot of money.
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: And if I had to guess, cause I had heard
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: that Clay Helton had no offsets in his contract. So
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: I would guess the Lincoln Riley doesn't have offsets either
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: considering how big of a deal it was when they
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: hired him away from Oklahoma and how hard it had
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: been for them to get a premier coach Um, so yeah,
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: I think they would like to move on. I don't
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: know if they can. Um, it's been the same issue
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: since he got here, right? Check out my super cool offense.
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: Isn't this wild? Watch this really cool smoke and mirrors
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: set up for this big explosive play. And we gave
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: up 45 points and lost like it's, there's no defense.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: There's no true identity there. To the team other than
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: isn't my offense cool? It's a hard way to win
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: in an era where you have programs that have identity,
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: that have toughness, that have leadership, that kind of over
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: sort of sees an entire program and what you think
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: you're going to get every single Saturday. And I don't
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: think that's the case with USC. So I think they'd
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: like to move on. Um, I've been a little, I've
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: been a little disappointed in Jen. I feel like she's
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: allowed Lincoln to kind of get the upper hand in
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: this relationship. I don't think he's, you know, been a
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: steward of the program. You know, he ended the rivalry
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: with Notre Dame, which is inexcusable and should have been
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: a fireable offense the second he suggested it like for cause. Um,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: So I don't know where they're going. I do think
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: the freshman class they have is incredibly talented. But that's, again,
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: it's all offense. Luke Waifu is a great defensive end,
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: but that doesn't mean you have a defensive identity. I mean,
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: like I was watching the game against Oregon. It's a
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: tie game. And I mean, you're watching Mike McDonald defenses
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: every Sunday. I watched Jesse Minner's defenses for the last
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: two years. Exceptional defenses, guys that came from college.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And what do you do?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: You put six guys on the line of scrimmage when
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: you're going to rush three and you drop three of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: them out and you force the quarterback to figure out
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: which three are coming and which three aren't. I'm watching,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: you know, Gary Patterson just with three guys on the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. Like this is, this is from 10
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: years ago.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Like what, what are we doing?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: This, this is, this is not hard. It's modern football
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: and it's adapting. And you know, he allowed, Dominic Raiola
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: to pick them apart in those moments. I know I'm
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: rambling on a little bit, but it's probably just because
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: there's so many issues there that I don't know how
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: they overcome, and I won't be surprised if they lose
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: four or five games.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Matt Money-Smith, one-stop shopping. We've got Huskies at USC on Saturday,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: and the Seahawks hosting his Chargers. He'll be calling it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: for Chargers Radio on Sunday. I'll see you in the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: press box in the stadium on Sunday in Seattle. Thanks
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: for coming on, sir.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it, Greg. Look forward to seeing you, man.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Thank you very much for being on. Matt
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Moneysmith from Los Angeles. Petros Papadakis, they're co-hosting for 20
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: years down at Los Angeles Radio. What a time that
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: must be. Petros' personality. But Matt Moneysmith joining us on
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline saying that, yeah, Justin Herbert not
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: taking short throws that are there in Mike McDaniel's schemes.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of window dressing and pre-snap motions that just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: aren't getting effective at all that Mike McDaniel's brought in.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Lots to change on offense, he says, for the Chargers.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Got injuries on the offensive line. They're one receiver that
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: is of note and threat. Vlad McConkie had been playing
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: with a cracked rib. That's what the Chargers are bringing
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: to Lumen Field on Sunday against the Seahawks. Up next,
• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:41
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  Speaker 2: You nailed it. There we go.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 10: I know you've heard that your actions speak louder than
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 10: your words.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 10: Since DePoto had his talk, we'll see what his actions
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 10: are when he hires the manager. And if the manager
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: is someone who's going to be a yes man, those
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 10: words were not true.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: They're hollow.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 11: I went to a Mariners game. Over the Labor Day weekend,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 11: we lost, of course. Four hits and a funeral. After
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: the game, what really stunned me was the apathy. You
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: couldn't tell by the crowd whether we had won or lost.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 11: I just think that Seattle's just got too much money
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 11: to burn. 36,000 people go down there, and they really
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 11: don't care.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I was just watching ESPN. Mariners hired Walter Matthau. as
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: their new manager.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 12: I'm really worried about the Seahawks going on a two-
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: to three-game losing streak, specifically a three-game losing streak. I
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 12: don't think the Chargers are really the kind of team
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: that loses four games in a row. I don't think
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: Justin Herbert's the kind of person who has that many
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 12: crappy games in a row, and Mike McDaniel's offense sluggish
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: that many games in a row.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: It just doesn't seem like that happens. As far as managers,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: I think Jerry DiPoto should be the Mariners' manager. He's
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 9: got the right attitude about a manager. He knows those teams.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 9: And so many times you've seen a guy step down
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: and go into the role.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: That was loaded.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: That would be Jerry DiPoto as the bench manager. Oh,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: my goodness. If we thought leadership was a problem from
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: him upstairs, that would be something. Yeah, the three-game losing
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• 1:04:13
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• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: don't see it, but I get his point. Eventually, the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Chargers are going to write themselves, you would think. Matt Money-Smith,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: the play-by-play announcer for the Chargers, telling us last segment,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Justin Herbert's got open guys quick and early in plays,
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Randy Wynn was an all-star outfitter. This was like eight
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: months after the Raiders traded Gruden to the Buccaneers for
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  Speaker 2: $ 8 million and two first-round picks. Eight months later, the
• 1:05:03
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  Speaker 2: This was after that really disappointing 2002 season that was
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  Speaker 4: Okay, there is a precedent. There is a precedent.
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  Speaker 2: The context of that is that Stephen Vogt still has...
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  Speaker 2: it's believed to be has been re-signed through the 2028 season.
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  Speaker 2: He signed a contract extension quietly with the Cleveland guardians
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  Speaker 2: before the 2025 season began. And the guardians have just
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  Speaker 2: won their third straight division title. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people want Steven Vogt to be the next Mariners manager.
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  Speaker 2: He has an off season home in Tacoma or Tumwater.
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  Speaker 2: He and his wife do. You're going to hear tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: I had a very good feeling. Don't want to try
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  Speaker 2: Go back to the text line. 425 says, I want
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  Speaker 2: Lou Brown as the Mariners' next manager. He has the experience.
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  Speaker 2: Lou Brown, of course, is the Cleveland Indians manager from
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  Speaker 2: Major League. Good reference. They're not quite that bad. On
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, the 360, Mike McDonald says they have to
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  Speaker 2: trust in Price but took him out of the game.
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  Speaker 2: So do you take Dan out of the game because
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  Speaker 2: he's making mistakes? I understand he's– I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: Dan is. It must be a typo. I understand he's
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  Speaker 2: a rookie, but come on. Absolutely love the show. Thanks
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: for that, 360. Yeah, that was a value judgment. And
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: that was an accountability move by Mike McDonald. And I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: don't know if he would have done that with a veteran.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that Price was in his third game
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: and he's so brand new to everything, including Mike McDonald's ways,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: that was just a message sent. And to be in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: a raincoat for the first two quarters of the game
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: definitely sent the message. And he echoed that message Price
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: did in the locker room after games. And I just
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: got to hold on to the ball and prioritize that.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: over anything else. It was the long game. You may
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: disagree with it, and that's why I asked on the
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  Speaker 2: text line how you felt about it. But really, they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: sacrificed that game for the next four or maybe five
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: years of Jadarian Price. The long game is what they
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: played with the rookie running back by sitting him and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: putting him on the bench to think about it. Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: I totally see from a leadership standpoint what they were doing.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could say, well, in the NFL, he's a pro.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: He doesn't need to be treated that way. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't play, the message gets in. If he trots right
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  Speaker 2: back onto the field– He doesn't have the same message
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  Speaker 2: in his mind that he does today of, hey, I'm
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: just going to hold on to the ball above everything else.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: There's that.
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  Speaker 4: And then also, I mean, I remember as a college
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: athlete watching a player get injured, tore her ACL. And
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: she came back. She was a year younger than me.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: And she was a freshman when I was a sophomore.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: And she had to sit out the entire year. And
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: she came bleeps out the next year because she sat
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: there and learned everything. And she couldn't play, you know,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: hip to ankle brace, the whole thing. And she came
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: just destroying it the next year. And I thought that, wow,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: there's a lot to be said for people who watch
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  Speaker 4: and learn. And I think that sometimes I remember Mike
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  Speaker 4: Leach did that to a couple quarterbacks. No, I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted him to get a different look at it. And
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  Speaker 4: so that might be a part of it, too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That is true. But all signs are
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: that he, Price, is going to be full go and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: getting the ball a lot early in the game to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: reestablish himself in the offense.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't, I guess my point is that it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily a punishment.
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  Speaker 3: Like, hey, just sit down and watch.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: 425, our favorite U.S. Coast Guard listener. Don Mattingly would
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: be a good Mariners manager. He's just the interim manager
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: with the Phillies right now. I think he could turn
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: things around and get us back to the playoffs and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: has been to the World Series as the bench coach
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: for the Blue Jays last year. If the Phillies don't
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: hire him back, I would go after him. Don Mattingly
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  Speaker 2: took over in the middle of the season, early in
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: the season, actually, and turned the Phillies around after a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: terrible start they had. That's interesting, Don Mattingly.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know I'm a fan of his.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: He has been a manager before with the Marlins, and
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  Speaker 2: I believe he managed the Dodgers for a spell, if
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. I know he's on their staff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: He definitely has experience in the game and in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: He would have to do it his way. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure he'd play iPad baseball yet another way that Jerry
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: DiPoto would have to change. We'll see. 360, Tumwater resident here.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: My daughter played basketball under Stephen Vogt's wife. He would
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: come to all the games. He was the most unassuming
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Major League player you can imagine and was absolutely gracious
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: and courteous to everyone around him. I would trade Kirby
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  Speaker 2: for him. There you go. Starting pitcher George Kirby to
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  Speaker 2: the Guardians for Steven Vogt. You heard it here first.
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  Speaker 3: That would be insane. And also, nothing would surprise me
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  Speaker 3: these days.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: No, that's true. That is true. Here's an interesting one
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: about Eamon Worry, 206. Have they specialized Eamon Worry so
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: much that he can't play an actual safety position? One,
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  Speaker 2: meaning deep. Why not play him there instead of as
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: a decoy rusher against Washington? Well, he wasn't even a
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  Speaker 2: decoy rusher because he rarely threatened the edge to come
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: into the backfield, unless he means just being there on
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  Speaker 2: the edge of the line. But he was dropping coverage
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. He has not played safety for Mike McDonald.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, from the very first game that he had
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: the high ankle spring week one against the 49ers, he
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: was moving around. Even when he got hurt, that was
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  Speaker 2: on the edge of the line of scrimmage of the
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  Speaker 2: Sam linebacker when DeMarcus Lawrence landed on his ankle. They
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: didn't draft him. They didn't trade up in the second
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: round to envision him to be a deep safety. They
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: envisioned him to be a linebacker in safety's clothing. Playing
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: him as a deep linebacker has never been an option
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: for Mike McDonald, so I don't expect it to be now.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: But it's an interesting point whether he could actually play
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: deep safety because they haven't tried him there. And for us,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: he just walked into the room here at Seahawk headquarters.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: He's going to tell us what he's got on his show,
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  Speaker 2: 12 until 3 next. We've got about five more, seven
• 1:14:00
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  Speaker 2: Minus three, going to win by four more points over
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  Speaker 2: to Seahawk Headquarters. Greg Bell, Justin McIntyre, now joined by
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  Speaker 8: So, yeah, it's a good day. It's always a good
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  Speaker 2: What's that, 20 minutes, 15 minutes?
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  Speaker 8: You got 20 or 25 minutes. Yeah, it's not bad.
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  Speaker 8: It's not bad.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: We had the radio play-by-play guy for the Chargers on
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: last hour, and he was talking about Justin Herbert, and
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: he thinks part of Herbert's problem, he's got eight sacks
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: in three games, 30th ranked passer rating in the league
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: right now. He said that his problem is he's got
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: open receivers early in plays at McDaniels' system, but he's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: not throwing to them. Is this a game where you're
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: worried about, oh, the Chargers actually get better this week
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: and Herbert looks like Herbert, or do you think this
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: should be a walk for the Seahawks?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: I think because of what happened last week, you just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 8: don't take anything for granted. I mean, Marcus Mariota beat you.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: I mean, and did he beat you or did you
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: beat yourselves with the draw?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: They sure think they beat themselves, yep.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: Which I think that's a justifiable way to look at it.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: At the same time, Mariota made a couple plays.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: Especially at the end. At the end.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: And, you know, they took advantage of the two safeties that.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: What's your read on DeAnthony Bell getting released and never
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: being activated? I.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: We... Brady Henderson asked about Bell, and oh, we love Bell.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what. They love his tackling.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's why he was on the team, and that's why
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: he stayed.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 8: Which special teams player, which that hasn't been great.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: No, that's right. Yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 8: It's a weird deal.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: It is weird. They had two practice squad safeties starting
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: in Washington, A.J. Finley and Rodney Thomas. And it showed.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: And we'll see if Julian Love comes back today. But
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: it's a good question. We've asked the question about the
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Anthony Bell the same way.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought, I mean, that was really, at the
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: end of the day, that's what was the story of
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 8: that game. I mean, they, Mariota, and when it came
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 8: down to it, you pick on those guys.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: You know, and then Mariota's, I think, he was talking
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: to Hugh the other day on Hardcore Football. He was
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: talking about the, you know, the third and seven to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: clinch the game where he ran for nine yards. And
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: as Hugh said, I mean, he's, Mariota's probably run that,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: you know, that a zillion times in his life.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: And knew exactly what to do. That's where the experience
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: paid off. And he's not as fast as he used
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: to be. He's not as, elusive as he used to be,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: but he knew what the read was and he did
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: it and clinched the game. The turnovers killed him. That
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: just absolutely killed him. The Donald pick six jumps out
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: at you. The EPA on that was like 19 or something.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: He said he saw the linebacker. He just got bold
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: and thought he could fit it in, but he said
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: he saw the linebacker. He should have dirted it.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: Manuel Wilson ran kind of a bad route coming out
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: of the backfield. Didn't help his case and Barnard didn't
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 8: do a great job either. He was one of those
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: Like you could look at all three guys at the
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: end of the day, the quarterback threw the ball, and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: the pick six happened. So to get back to your
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 8: original question, yeah, I mean, this should be a win.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: Should be.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Should be a win.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: Part of me thinks, really, are the Chargers going to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: go 0-4?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: That's the text I had the same– or one of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: our talkbacks was the same thing. Right, right. So Ian's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: point was, if you missed it, we didn't talk about
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: it on the show. You probably did miss it. The
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: Seahawks this morning signed a linebacker to the practice squad,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Ciarlo. who used to play for the Bills, and
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: to get him on the roster, they cut from the
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: practice squad, safety D'Anthony Bell. And Bell, we thought, was
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: going to be one of these guys who fills in
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: for Okada or Julian Love when they were injured. He
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: was starting at the beginning of training camp, D'Anthony Bell was,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: and now he's not even on the team, not even
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: on the practice squad.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 8: It goes back to when we're out here in July,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: and it's great to be here every day at the
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 8: Virginia Mason Athletic Center and doing the shows, interviewing guys,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: talking face-to-face and all that, and giving the fans what
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: they want. That's a ton of Seahawks football content. We
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: can't tell anything from what happens in August. Like you
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 8: just said, DeAnthony Bell was with a couple guys banged up.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: He was working at Eamon Worry Spot as the number
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: one guy there. Yes, he was. You had to figure
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  Speaker 8: with special teams and depth and safety issues. When Bud
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: Clark got hurt, this guy's a lock. He's a 53-man
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 8: roster lock. That's not even a question. So you go
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  Speaker 8: from that to being a practice squad guy to cut
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  Speaker 8: is just, we don't know what's going on. I want
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  Speaker 8: to mention, too, the Bud Clark thing is part of it, too.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: Like it's Okada, Love, and Clark. Your top three deep
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: safeties are all hurt.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. Clark would be starting right now.
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  Speaker 8: And that's hard. And they drafted Clark to be a starter.
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  Speaker 2: Second-round pick.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they drafted him to be a starter. And so
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  Speaker 8: you lose all three of those guys. I mean, the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: Okada thing, that's been lingering now for a month.
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  Speaker 2: Hamstring. We talked about how those don't cook better overnight.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: You know where Jimmy Ciarlo went to school, Jessamyn? I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: do know. College football? Take a wild guess. Hofstra? Army. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I can't believe that was the lead story all day today.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: I left that until 11.55.
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  Speaker 8: I know, that's a shocker.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: What do you got on the show?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: Stunning, just more stunning than the Anthony Belgin cut. We'll get,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 8: we got a Seahawk player coming in, I'm not sure
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: who it is yet, coming up at 12.30, because they're
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 8: doing things a little bit later today. We'll hear a
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: little bit from Mike McDonald after his news conference, mostly
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 8: just health. How's Julian Love? We'll get to that point,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: and Okada, et cetera. So that's coming up in the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 8: one o'clock hour. Stuart Mandel talking all things college football.
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  Speaker 8: Kind of a sneaky, interesting game. You all right, Jess?
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  Speaker 8: I heard you.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: You don't like my car?
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  Speaker 2: She didn't think it was an interesting game. She didn't
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: like our show. That's all right.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I left, Ian. No, I swallowed water down
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: the wrong pipe.
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  Speaker 8: Okay. It's a sneaky game this weekend. USC-Washington. Two teams
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: that are not happy with where they are right now.
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  Speaker 2: They are not.
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  Speaker 8: But they only have one loss each. But someone's going
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: to have the second. It's going to be bad. We'll
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: talk about that with Mandel and so much more. Corbin's
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  Speaker 8: going to pop in here at 2, and I think
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: you'll probably pop in at her at some point, too,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: with the news of the day from the news conference.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 8: A lot going on. A lot of Seahawks talk today.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of Seahawks talk. Four days before they play
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: the Chargers at Lumen Field. Ian Furness is here with
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: me at Seahawks headquarters to cover that and talk about
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: it for the next three hours. He'll have Factor Fiction
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: at 2.35 for his pick next. That's coming up. Thanks
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: for listening. It'll be Mike Benton pinch-hitting for me tomorrow
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: on Crackin' Hockey opening day. That's fitting. He's going to
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: launch his Stephen Vogt campaign to be the new Mariners manager.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: The Azusa Pacific classmate of his. You'll get Mike tomorrow.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: You'll get Farhan Walji talking about the NFL tomorrow with Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. He ends up next on 93.3 KJR FM.