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The Games People Play With CARL JACKSON From WOLSTEN BUTCHERS · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: My name is Karl.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from the Wolston Butchers. I sing and play guitar.
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  Speaker 2: We have a new song. It's called Play These Games.
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  Speaker 2: It's being released on Wednesday, which I think is the
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  Speaker 2: twenty sixth of March. It's the first thing I think
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  Speaker 2: I've done in my life that potentially I could say
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  Speaker 2: it's highly anticipated.
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  Speaker 3: So that's a good thing. That's a good thing. Brother,
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  Speaker 3: thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very good thing. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Oh as so as you say, the Wolston Butchers are
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  Speaker 3: releasing your new highly anticipated single and music video for
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  Speaker 3: Play These Games. It's Wednesday, March or twenty six so
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  Speaker 3: everyone else is anticipating. Is highly anticipated. How about you, guys,
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  Speaker 3: how you feeling to set the.
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  Speaker 1: Free do it?
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  Speaker 2: I'm fucking nervous, hey, so like it's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: blessing and a curse.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you have a song that does really well, you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to Well I suppose you don't have to follow
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  Speaker 2: that up, but you know you want to. You want
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  Speaker 2: you want the same response as the last one, potentially
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  Speaker 2: even more so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 2: I like, I love the song, I love the clip,
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  Speaker 2: really excited about what it is, but also just really nervous,
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  Speaker 2: you know, about what what people are going to think.
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  Speaker 3: So well, but she's a cracking, fast paced track made
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  Speaker 3: that some would say, is you know, one of your
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  Speaker 3: heaviest songs yet are you? Are you one of those people?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's our heaviest song, but it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty It's it's down that end of the spectrum.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I love about.
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  Speaker 2: The Wolston Butcher's is that we'll play something really heavy
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  Speaker 2: one minute and then go into like salty pop punk
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  Speaker 2: goodness the very next, you know, so we we do
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  Speaker 2: swing to both ends of the spectrum and so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so this one is it's it's heavier one and it's
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  Speaker 2: fun to play, so yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The music video itself too, like it's essentially just
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  Speaker 3: a whole band playing live together, and normally something like
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  Speaker 3: that it's going to be pretty plain and non eventful,
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  Speaker 3: but somehow it actually suits the song just having to
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  Speaker 3: you guys rocking out there. It's it's I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how or why, but it does.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, we're not a sort of band that
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  Speaker 2: can have huge concepts in our videos and so, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is.
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  Speaker 1: Our second one that we've done as a band, and.
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  Speaker 2: The first one was just a I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say playing, but it was, you know, jamming in a
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  Speaker 2: white room. And then we so we kind of wanted
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  Speaker 2: to have a little bit more of a conceptual idea
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  Speaker 2: for this one. So we kind of went with the
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  Speaker 2: idea that because we're not a heavy band, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like we're not a metal band, we're not a hardcore band.
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  Speaker 2: So I think if you were in a heavy or
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  Speaker 2: a hardcore band, you wouldn't see us as a heavy band.
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  Speaker 1: You'd see it's a punk band.
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  Speaker 2: So we definitely didn't want to go with a dark,
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  Speaker 2: brooding sort of clip to give the impression that we're
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  Speaker 2: something that we're not. So we kind of had this
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  Speaker 2: heavy song and we decided to make it a bright
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  Speaker 2: video to sort of create this tension. We tried to
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  Speaker 2: lock in you've seen the cover that's coming with the
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  Speaker 2: artwork that's coming with the song. We tried to use
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  Speaker 2: the same color scheme the video that we did with
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  Speaker 2: the artwork to sort of tie them together, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we did.
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  Speaker 1: We worked with the guy who.
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  Speaker 2: Made the video and sort of worked on some cool
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  Speaker 2: angles and things like that, just to make it stand
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  Speaker 2: out from the last clip a bit more. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: really love it, but it's really hard when you're in
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  Speaker 2: the band, you know, because you love everything do.
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  Speaker 3: So, or if you don't, you're not going to admit
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  Speaker 3: it to anyone anyway.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. But you know, I'm the kind of guy and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been through something like this in your
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  Speaker 2: life where you think it's the best thing in the world,
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  Speaker 2: but a year later, when you look back on it,
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  Speaker 2: you go, maybe not as great as I thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm probably the wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Person to ask, but I think it looks Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think it looks fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Well for what it's worth, brother, I didn't hear as
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  Speaker 3: a fucking It wasn't what I was expecting from you
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  Speaker 3: guys at all, but it was a pleasant surprise.
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  Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you, if you don't mind me asking
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  Speaker 2: what were you expecting from us?
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  Speaker 3: I was expecting more of the sort of pop punky
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  Speaker 3: sort of stuff, you know, like just with the twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight Daisy sort of type stuff like what it said
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  Speaker 3: rest release. It was a bit heavier, or just thought
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  Speaker 3: you meant a bit sort of bottom end of you
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  Speaker 3: heavier than that, but it's actually more an up tempo,
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  Speaker 3: party heavy type song.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes pretty heavy in the bridge, but then
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  Speaker 2: and then again, I do think it's got a pretty
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  Speaker 2: It's got a pretty tasteful melodic chorus, I think, which
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  Speaker 2: goes back. I mean, it's got heavy vocals in there
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  Speaker 2: as well, but but yeah, I think it's got a
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  Speaker 2: good catchy hook as well. You've got your standard pop
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  Speaker 2: punk beat at the start with a cool riff, So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's got pretty The song is a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a journey.
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  Speaker 3: We touched on this before, Bro, but Play These Games
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  Speaker 3: follows your last song Live Dead, Die Fast, which were
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  Speaker 3: gangbusters for the band, made like did that success that
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  Speaker 3: one put extra pressure on you going into this one
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  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So we had we have been recording with Troy Brady,
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  Speaker 2: and we had done over the course of the year.
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  Speaker 2: We had done six songs and we had released three
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  Speaker 2: of them, so.
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  Speaker 1: Four of them not necessarily I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: call them singles.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know how it works these days, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, you release one song at a time, which
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  Speaker 2: is how it goes, and we had just kind of
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  Speaker 2: planned to keep doing that, and so when we did
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  Speaker 2: Live Dead, we all just kind of said, let's just
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  Speaker 2: do a video like a proper one, you know, spend
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  Speaker 2: some money, put some time into it. And it went
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  Speaker 2: really good, and so we were like, well, we've got
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  Speaker 2: to follow that up really quickly.
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  Speaker 1: But at that stage, we had one song left.
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  Speaker 2: So now, to be fair, yeah, to be fair, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a very good song, and I'm very glad
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  Speaker 2: that that's the one that we're releasing. But it was
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  Speaker 2: very much a matter of, well, if we want to
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  Speaker 2: get one out in the timeframe that we're sticking to,
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  Speaker 2: we really only have the option of releasing this song, which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you always believe in something until your career
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  Speaker 2: is writing on it and then you start to second guess,
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  Speaker 2: is this the one we should? You know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to wait too long, but I also don't want
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  Speaker 2: to you know, I don't want to miss this opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: So the guy that shoots out, who's done this video
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  Speaker 2: and did our last video, is an old man of mine.
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  Speaker 2: So fortunately he's someone that I trust implicitly. And like
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  Speaker 2: I said, recording with Troy Brady is just everything that
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  Speaker 2: comes out of his studio is fantastic. So it does
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  Speaker 2: add a lot of pressure in answer to your question,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's a I think we've got the
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  Speaker 2: right thing for what we need.
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  Speaker 3: Oh now, I don't expect you to have a definitive
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  Speaker 3: answer to this next one, because if you did, you'd
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  Speaker 3: rule the world musically, bro. But why do you think
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  Speaker 3: people connected so well with Livedad? Like what was about
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  Speaker 3: that song with people suddenly jumped on board when we
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  Speaker 3: fucking love these guys?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it really just.
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  Speaker 2: Comes down to it's a good, good song with a
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  Speaker 2: good clip, which I know is a simple answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: But when we were recording that one, that.
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  Speaker 2: Song got super super changed during the recording process. The
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  Speaker 2: song that we went into was almost completely different than
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  Speaker 2: the song that we that we came out with, and
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  Speaker 2: it was and if you look at it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's got a cool riff, and then it's got verses
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  Speaker 2: that aren't quite the.
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  Speaker 1: Same from first to second.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a pre chorus that only appears once, it's
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  Speaker 2: got a chorus that repeats with different chords in it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a mishmash of different stuff. And I'm ashamed to
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  Speaker 2: say that. I remember being in the studio and saying
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  Speaker 2: it's a great song, but I just don't think it'll
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  Speaker 2: make a good single. And so far, yeah, and so
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  Speaker 2: far it's done better than any song I've ever released
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  Speaker 2: in my entire life. So first of all, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know anything about anything, so I can give you my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's worth anything. But secondly,
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  Speaker 2: I think it is at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: like I think, I was looking at it knowing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a single should have this and a single should have that,
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't really have a lot of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, it is a really you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can say this being it
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  Speaker 2: it's my song, but I think it's a great song.
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  Speaker 2: It just has it's an interesting song, it's it's performed well,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's just it. I think because it
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  Speaker 2: looks good, you know, when people saw the video, they
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  Speaker 2: stayed with it, and because it's got a good hooky chorus,
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  Speaker 2: just people resonated with it. So yeah, I can't say
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  Speaker 2: that I know exactly what it is, but I think
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it just comes down
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  Speaker 2: to it was a good clip with a good song, so.
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  Speaker 1: Run with that.
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  Speaker 3: Like those two songs, indicative of the musical direction I guess,
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  Speaker 3: so Wilson w again to take moving forward or they
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  Speaker 3: just a bit of an experiment.
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  Speaker 1: Yes and no.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, one of the things I do like
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  Speaker 2: about is that we're not not shy to do cover
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  Speaker 2: most of the range of the punk rock spectrum, which is.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of where I grew up.
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  Speaker 2: So we are currently in the studio now and we're
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  Speaker 2: doing four songs. One or two of the ones that
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  Speaker 2: we were working on today and yesterday sound like they
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  Speaker 2: could be on a Newfound Glory record. One of them
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  Speaker 2: sounds like it could be on a Dead Kennedy's album,
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  Speaker 2: and the other one sounds like it's like a Propagandhi
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  Speaker 2: song or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We are very much getting to a stage where because
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  Speaker 2: the four of us in the band at the moment,
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  Speaker 2: we've been playing.
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  Speaker 1: In this lineup for almost two years now.
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  Speaker 2: So we are kind of really starting to solidify our sound.
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  Speaker 2: And that is so I think that in a way, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think as far as production values and interesting songwriting,
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  Speaker 2: I think yeah. But don't be surprised if we put
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  Speaker 2: out something that is unapologetically radio friendly pop punk, because
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  Speaker 2: we are.
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  Speaker 1: Not We're not too big to do that. We will
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: We love it, and we will do We'll do punk
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  Speaker 2: rock jumps and stuff on stage and then the next
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  Speaker 2: minute we'll go into a breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we like. So so hard to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: That's what people like about you, guys. There is your
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  Speaker 3: quirky nature. Like seeing his live, these are a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun, you know, like it's it's great music, and
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  Speaker 3: you take music seriously, but on stage you just you
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  Speaker 3: just like the rest of us, except you can actually
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  Speaker 3: play something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we do have a lot of fun. I
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  Speaker 2: have been so Yeah. I've been playing in the band
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  Speaker 2: for just over two years and Tom Arather singer guitarist,
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  Speaker 2: me and him are always just looking for something fun
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  Speaker 2: to do on stage, you know, Like we've got these
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  Speaker 2: two really cheap guitars that we just kind of hurl
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  Speaker 2: around ourselves and throw on the ground and just try
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  Speaker 2: to be silly with it, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we do like to have fun. We do
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  Speaker 1: like to play and it's yeah, we'll do that nice.
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  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of playing live and having fun, You've got
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  Speaker 3: a couple of crack and shows coming up. The first
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  Speaker 3: of Riches with Bodies are at Norton's Music Factory on
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  Speaker 3: April the twelfth. Yeah, that one should be off.
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  Speaker 1: It's chess, dude, it's gonna be great.
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: We we got to play with Body Jar. It was
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  Speaker 2: my first time playing with Body Jar in November of
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  Speaker 2: last year. And you know, having played punk rock for
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  Speaker 2: so long, I've seen Body Jar that many times and
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  Speaker 2: have been around them that many times, and how to
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  Speaker 2: be able to play with them, it's just they're such
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  Speaker 2: a cool band. They've still got it after all this time.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, this gig on the twelfth is going to
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  Speaker 2: be like a minifest So Norton's in Caloundra is a
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  Speaker 2: fantastic thing.
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  Speaker 1: Good, yeah, beautiful, you know you can. It's got that
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  Speaker 1: cool little bier garden at the side. It looks cool.
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  Speaker 1: You know. You can shut those doors and you can have.
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  Speaker 2: A small crowd or a big crowd and it looks
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  Speaker 2: great either way. So yeah, really looking forward to that one.
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  Speaker 1: That's going to be great.
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  Speaker 3: And then yeah after that, friends are right, Yeah, your
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  Speaker 3: friends are on being Lane, being Jane Lane. There's a
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  Speaker 3: beast machine heaps others at the weaver Long Festival in
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  Speaker 3: Redcliffe on the twenty eight like another Cracker. It's good
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  Speaker 3: to see redclif some music like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't actually played in Redcliffe before. It'll be
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  Speaker 2: a first for me, so looking forward to that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've seen the Way We Belong festival before and that's that's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be a super cool one as well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to put you on the spoty mate, who
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  Speaker 3: you're looking forward more to playing with? Friendzl or body car?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, don't make me say that if what I was listening.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm going to tell ye.
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  Speaker 2: I look A Man Who Is Not a Camel was
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  Speaker 2: a very important album to me, very important album to me,
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  Speaker 2: So I think you could even with it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even with No Touch Red, which is also a fantastic album.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be friends all for me, love friends.
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  Speaker 3: All, no argument for me and my friend, but fuck
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  Speaker 3: friends on the funck Body Jar because of Wilston Butchers
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  Speaker 3: have got a play these games coming out on Wednesday
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  Speaker 3: the twenty sixth. He's an absolute cracker. Where can people
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  Speaker 3: keep up with the band and find out where you're
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  Speaker 3: playing and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You can find us on Instagram, you can find us
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  Speaker 2: on Spotify, and all of us have the usual.
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  Speaker 1: Usual socials you can find us there. You can find
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  Speaker 1: me under Carl W. Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: I'm only on Facebook, which is very boring and very lame.
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  Speaker 2: I'm aware of that, but I try to keep my
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  Speaker 2: socials to one at a time, so you can find
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  Speaker 2: me on there. But yeah, Wolston Butcher's we're on all
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  Speaker 2: the socials. Find us there and we'll have always posting
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  Speaker 2: for our gigs and ship like that, never dying.
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  Speaker 4: I hear the same side. Well it's his running through
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  Speaker 4: him on ro Ray set flock. So the first fucking
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  Speaker 4: lettisaw and I'm rot getting it back behind me and
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  Speaker 4: tell all in time and his voices in my head
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  Speaker 4: Colin doesn't make a long time unders down the ladies go,
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  Speaker 4: so it all way some hours another day, I too
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  Speaker 4: watch his side the ever my guys sitting on that.
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  Speaker 3: To watch us.
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  Speaker 4: Right to my second time.
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  Speaker 3: You've already never checked my life.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Say they just have a fall a flight So I
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  Speaker 4: lost pressole a saw so above the crack, hollering me
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  Speaker 4: away about where down these voices in my head and
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  Speaker 4: telling me I'm wrong. But when I look away, but
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  Speaker 4: it's all gone out. But he's watching waters and the
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  Speaker 4: alto rit sid job Son ter write a side right job,
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  Speaker 4: make the sign best time or the fat right. So
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  Speaker 4: my ride, I say, said, I get down the side
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  Speaker 4: aft when I saw sid, I've jot. I ride so
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  Speaker 4: melody time to side as if worst coming into night.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm my busbie, I'm hunting on the backs of
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  Speaker 4: the road, scared, can't even bring don't try. I say,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't ron way out, Mony's gay fushi and all
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  Speaker 4: it's about another day. I want to watch your sun
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  Speaker 4: like time time I started out.
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  Speaker 3: Stop that alter watch U