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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and c W alumni
- 0:02Speaker 1: look blue meaning and you're listening to pc W. The
- 0:07Speaker 1: question is, oh you.
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- 0:25Speaker 4: What do you guys want to talk about?
- 0:39Speaker 2: And the color red in a world with the black
- 0:42Speaker 2: and white of world?
- 0:48Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 0:50Speaker 6: You up?
- 1:09Speaker 2: You got a bad hold on whoa why are you?
- 1:32Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls Shot Vollages. Welcome back
- 1:34Speaker 5: to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I am
- 1:38Speaker 5: your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken, and
- 1:41Speaker 5: today we're doing the Elimination Chamber predictions. It's our road
- 1:45Speaker 5: to WrestleMania and damn I'm excited. I am not alone.
- 1:51Speaker 5: Let me bring him out here. We go.
- 1:55Speaker 7: Black y'all and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, and
- 1:58Speaker 7: I'm black, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all,
- 2:01Speaker 7: and I'm black, y'all, and I'm tracking it black and
- 2:03Speaker 7: I'm black, y'all.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I'm flicking black black and.
- 2:06Speaker 7: The black black, I'm blacking it black, yo.
- 2:08Speaker 6: Because I'm black and I'm black.
- 2:10Speaker 7: Then I'm black and I'm plack y'all, and I'm tracking
- 2:12Speaker 7: you're black cat. I'm flat, y'all, and I'm flack y'all,
- 2:15Speaker 7: and I'm flat y'all, and I'm tracking you're black. You're
- 2:18Speaker 7: I'm plack y'all, and I'm frigging it black black, black,
- 2:20Speaker 7: black black black black black, flack flack y'all, and I'm
- 2:24Speaker 7: black y'all.
- 2:25Speaker 5: Welcome black Jay.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Oh.
- 2:28Speaker 8: I didn't don't think we was gonna let Black History
- 2:32Speaker 8: Month go by without y'all getting a taste of that.
- 2:34Speaker 8: I may ever forgot it in the last episode, but no,
- 2:37Speaker 8: we ain't gonna forget it down.
- 2:39Speaker 5: We got it, We got it in, We got it. Then,
- 2:42Speaker 5: Uh all right, let's bring him out here we go.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Right?
- 2:52Speaker 2: You know I started? Is dare him a neighbor?
- 2:57Speaker 7: Now everybody's doing it because some so good now and.
- 3:08Speaker 5: Stick the groove storm is hot? What Doyle?
- 3:25Speaker 6: Oh, it's me, It's me, It's the.
- 3:27Speaker 9: D Wiley And oh Canada, you great big pile of snow.
- 3:35Speaker 9: You raised dalk sleds and look like a skimos.
- 3:42Speaker 10: We're going up north kids.
- 3:45Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, in Toronto, they're like good shoes. A lot
- 3:51Speaker 5: of I think eighteen was in Toronto, Ontario.
- 3:54Speaker 6: That was the last one they ran the Rogers Center.
- 3:58Speaker 9: Back then it was called the Sky and back then
- 4:00Speaker 9: the company was called the World Wrestling Federation.
- 4:04Speaker 6: It's been quite a while.
- 4:06Speaker 8: Yeah, the fact wasn't The eighteen was the last WrestleMania
- 4:09Speaker 8: under the world under the WWF banner, right something.
- 4:14Speaker 2: By nineteen they made the switch to WWE, right.
- 4:16Speaker 5: I believe.
- 4:17Speaker 6: So, yeah, I think that's more of a Furlow's question.
- 4:19Speaker 5: But uh, that's so Carlos, if you're listening, please answer
- 4:24Speaker 5: us right into the show so we know and then
- 4:27Speaker 5: we can answer next episode.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I can look it up real quick.
- 4:33Speaker 5: I just like, I don't know why. I just think
- 4:35Speaker 5: of it just took me back to that WrestleMania. That's
- 4:37Speaker 5: that's what I thought about.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Yes, I am correct about that.
- 4:43Speaker 8: The old eighteen logo was WWF nineteen they got the
- 4:48Speaker 8: f out.
- 4:57Speaker 2: It was dumb, but it worked at that time.
- 5:01Speaker 5: It did. It did work at that time. But something's
- 5:04Speaker 5: trying to explain it to somebody like, oh, yeah, this
- 5:08Speaker 5: is their ww now they got the f out, Like
- 5:11Speaker 5: what do you mean? Like, no, they took the f out.
- 5:15Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, still holding on to the attitude era thing
- 5:18Speaker 8: at the end, so they had to be edgy about it.
- 5:20Speaker 10: So yeah, right around.
- 5:23Speaker 5: The ruthless Aggression era. Yeah, that was when I started
- 5:26Speaker 5: picking up. Yeah, yeah, do you guys now think about
- 5:30Speaker 5: do you guys own any like wrestling shirts that say
- 5:34Speaker 5: w w F on it? Is that such a good question.
- 5:40Speaker 8: I thought you were gonna ask if we owed any
- 5:41Speaker 8: any wrestling I mean, any w w E products period
- 5:46Speaker 8: that still had the F on them. I was like
- 5:47Speaker 8: saying that I do still have. I got a couple
- 5:51Speaker 8: of things that have the old w w F logo
- 5:53Speaker 8: on them.
- 5:54Speaker 5: Yeah, actually not, I think that just that just anything
- 5:56Speaker 5: in general like.
- 5:59Speaker 8: That, I do because between round about WrestleMania eighteen through
- 6:04Speaker 8: nineteen was when I was on them for some reason,
- 6:08Speaker 8: a big WWFDVD kick so damn near any DVD they
- 6:15Speaker 8: put out. I was buying it for most of them,
- 6:18Speaker 8: not all of them.
- 6:19Speaker 6: But what did you know it would all be available
- 6:22Speaker 6: your fingertips.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Right for just.
- 6:25Speaker 8: Yeah, So I have WrestleMania eighteen on DVD, like the
- 6:32Speaker 8: original for when it first came out. So I've got
- 6:34Speaker 8: that on eight on DVD. I didn't buy nineteen, but
- 6:38Speaker 8: I bought twenty on DVD. Which by then was WWE.
- 6:42Speaker 8: But what other pay per views did I buy? I
- 6:47Speaker 8: think I bought Summer Slam after WrestleMania nineteen, so that
- 6:52Speaker 8: would have been the one with the Rock versus Rock
- 6:55Speaker 8: lessner and like some of the other superstar DVDs that
- 6:58Speaker 8: they were putting out, like Stone Cold one, I bought
- 7:01Speaker 8: the Rock one I bought I think I bought the
- 7:04Speaker 8: first Rick Flair when they put out that was like
- 7:06Speaker 8: a three D triple DVD set, which was rather disappointing
- 7:10Speaker 8: because all it was was just a bunch of matches
- 7:12Speaker 8: and not even some of the more ones that you
- 7:14Speaker 8: would think of, But it was okay. Hulk Hogan won
- 7:18Speaker 8: back when people still liked them.
- 7:22Speaker 2: I think I bought a Yeah, I think I have a.
- 7:26Speaker 8: I got the first Lesnar Superstar DVD they put out, Bring.
- 7:29Speaker 2: The Pain the Road Warriors, like a bunch.
- 7:33Speaker 8: Of Monday Night Wars, the first time they actually did
- 7:36Speaker 8: a documentary on that.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Out got that. Yeah, it's a bunch of them that
- 7:40Speaker 2: I have.
- 7:41Speaker 8: It was cool about those DVDs because obviously, you know,
- 7:44Speaker 8: you popped the disc in and did take you to
- 7:46Speaker 8: the home screen or whatever, and they would just play
- 7:49Speaker 8: that person's theme. So if you just want to hear
- 7:51Speaker 8: their theme, you could just load it up and that
- 7:52Speaker 8: shit would just loop on.
- 7:56Speaker 2: That's a fine note.
- 7:56Speaker 8: Somewhere, I know, I got them somewhere stats probably in
- 7:58Speaker 8: a box or something run.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I still have the.
- 8:02Speaker 5: Guy who had last episode. He was a big collector,
- 8:04Speaker 5: like DVDs and VHS tapes, because like I would go
- 8:08Speaker 5: down to his place and he would have just all anything.
- 8:10Speaker 5: If it was wrestling related, he bought, like doesn't matter
- 8:14Speaker 5: if it's volume two of you know, of whatever, Like
- 8:17Speaker 5: they didn't even have to be a complete set. He
- 8:18Speaker 5: would just fucking buy it just to have it anyway.
- 8:26Speaker 5: Uh So, Elimination Chamber, we only got four matches on
- 8:30Speaker 5: this card, which is it seems to be the standard,
- 8:34Speaker 5: you know, no more five matches, which.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Well yeah, well it depends on.
- 8:39Speaker 8: Yeah, for these ones that have like the joint feature
- 8:42Speaker 8: match or the you know, the featured matches men and women's,
- 8:45Speaker 8: they seem to cut him down the four.
- 8:48Speaker 9: Because I mean, these chamber matches they're not as long
- 8:50Speaker 9: as rumbles, but they take half an hour at least,
- 8:53Speaker 9: you know.
- 8:53Speaker 8: Oh yeah, they eated up a big chunk of time.
- 8:56Speaker 8: And as we've come to learn now.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Last year yeah was it last year? Five?
- 9:02Speaker 6: And you can get bet on the rock segment last
- 9:04Speaker 6: and half an hour.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got that.
- 9:07Speaker 8: That's probably gonna be a match in it of itself.
- 9:09Speaker 8: And we know, like I said, w W has come
- 9:11Speaker 8: to love it's filler.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Yeah, betur thet before we.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Get into that. Let's uh, let's spice things up a bit.
- 9:28Speaker 6: I know, I'm sexty, I've got the.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Wow, I've got the.
- 9:41Speaker 5: Full. He told me he was here. He's not here full.
- 9:47Speaker 5: He just texted me, goes, I'm here, you lie, you liar.
- 9:52Speaker 8: Well, that would not be the first time hb k's
- 9:55Speaker 8: music has been played to him not coming out.
- 9:59Speaker 7: Wrong.
- 10:00Speaker 6: It's a smile.
- 10:04Speaker 5: Well, well we'll see him soon.
- 10:05Speaker 2: You've been pumped.
- 10:08Speaker 5: Uh. Anyway, there's four masses on the card.
- 10:12Speaker 9: I'm just gonna read off the barber beefcakes. Uh music
- 10:16Speaker 9: is punishment and.
- 10:20Speaker 5: Can I play that? Wait a second, let me see
- 10:23Speaker 5: Brudus brudeus the barber beefcake. Brude is the butcherss What
- 10:31Speaker 5: the fuckol know my google Brude is the barber. Yeah,
- 10:39Speaker 5: what the hell?
- 10:42Speaker 6: Beef It's like, really, it's a lot of horns. I think.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Now I'm seeing it. Braster was like, who had a
- 10:49Speaker 2: really shitty jury?
- 10:52Speaker 5: Is it? This one? Hold on.
- 10:56Speaker 6: You?
- 11:01Speaker 9: It doesn't ring a bell Old Wrestling Federation for over
- 11:04Speaker 9: fifty the revolutionary course, it's sports entertitment.
- 11:18Speaker 11: No, sure, o, that's terrible. It's just like our bass guitar.
- 11:35Speaker 11: That's not even fun. Every lyrics to it. There's no
- 11:43Speaker 11: lyrics to it.
- 11:45Speaker 5: Man, anyway, fucking or what are my what am I tie?
- 11:51Speaker 5: I'm getting sidetracked here this fucking guy. Uh all right,
- 11:57Speaker 5: let me read off the card. We got Johnson versus
- 12:00Speaker 5: c mpunk versus you know what?
- 12:04Speaker 2: You damn you know what you could give him?
- 12:06Speaker 8: What's that since he made since he kind of made
- 12:10Speaker 8: an ass out of you? I played that theme for
- 12:12Speaker 8: no music, for no reason. Give Billy Gunn's ass, man.
- 12:18Speaker 5: I think for him. I think he would thoroughly enjoy that.
- 12:22Speaker 5: I asked, man. He was like, thank you music. You
- 12:28Speaker 5: know what? I want to real quick, Like, I know
- 12:31Speaker 5: we're not even we're not even on that match yet.
- 12:33Speaker 5: But I saw somebody put a video package together of
- 12:37Speaker 5: the men's chamber with with johnsona cmpunk, Drew McIntyre looking
- 12:43Speaker 5: Paul Damien Priest and seth Ron's. I think they used
- 12:47Speaker 5: like like some older ruthless aggression era music, Like they
- 12:51Speaker 5: built it like an old video package. And it actually
- 12:54Speaker 5: was pretty fucking good. Was it always? Maybe by Saliva?
- 13:00Speaker 5: I'm trying to think I gotta find it, but it
- 13:02Speaker 5: was actually pretty well.
- 13:04Speaker 8: Saliva did have some kick ass music when they first
- 13:07Speaker 8: came out.
- 13:08Speaker 5: Yeah, ws a lot.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Of it them in Drowning Pool. Yeah, were that's what
- 13:13Speaker 2: it was.
- 13:14Speaker 5: It was the first the elimination chamber of the first
- 13:17Speaker 5: one in god, I.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Don't even know what that was two thousand the first
- 13:23Speaker 2: ever one.
- 13:23Speaker 8: Yes, that would have been two thousand two series two
- 13:30Speaker 8: thousand and two, because that's the one that Sean Mike.
- 13:32Speaker 8: That was for the World haadweight title that Shawn Michael
- 13:34Speaker 8: was won when the infamous brown tights.
- 13:37Speaker 2: An awful haircut and the terrible haircut and he.
- 13:41Speaker 5: Said he hated that haircut and he said he hated
- 13:44Speaker 5: that fucking alfit he had, he said, last minute ye together.
- 13:47Speaker 8: Yeah, because he was supposed to have a different outfit
- 13:50Speaker 8: ready for that but for that match, but it wasn't ready.
- 13:54Speaker 8: And then on top of that, his haircut was messed up,
- 13:57Speaker 8: so it was just all bad for him that.
- 13:59Speaker 5: Night his last world title run too.
- 14:02Speaker 8: Yeah, which he didn't even really want, but Vince just
- 14:05Speaker 8: made him take it because he was so pop. He
- 14:07Speaker 8: had gotten so over with the fans since returning earlier
- 14:11Speaker 8: that summer at uh Summer Slam.
- 14:13Speaker 5: Yeah. I can't believe that, Like, it just blows my
- 14:17Speaker 5: mind that Sean Michaels didn't have any other title like
- 14:20Speaker 5: world title runs after that.
- 14:22Speaker 8: That was also the same Survivor series where Brock Listener's
- 14:25Speaker 8: first ww title run came to an end at the
- 14:30Speaker 8: hands of the Big Show when Paul Haymen turned on him.
- 14:34Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I remember that.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, because that's one of the old DVDs
- 14:38Speaker 2: I have.
- 14:41Speaker 5: Ron probably is that DVD too. Yeah, I was just
- 14:44Speaker 5: I was just saying they were using that theme song
- 14:46Speaker 5: that the one from that video promo jo and putting
- 14:51Speaker 5: it into like the modern day elimination chamber package and
- 14:54Speaker 5: it actually it works pretty well, and I was like, oh, well,
- 14:57Speaker 5: all of a sudden, this looks slightly more interesting.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Uh.
- 15:02Speaker 5: We also have the women's live Morgan Bianca Belair, Alexa Bliss, Bailey,
- 15:08Speaker 5: Naomi and Roxane Perez. Uh. Then we actually, you know,
- 15:15Speaker 5: if anybody else it's caught up. But recently Live Morgan
- 15:21Speaker 5: and Raquel won the women's tag titles. So now you
- 15:25Speaker 5: got Naomi Bianca in this chamber without the tag titles. Uh,
- 15:32Speaker 5: I just putting that out there.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Yep.
- 15:34Speaker 8: And as I as I said that Monday, when they
- 15:37Speaker 8: dropped them, I said, somebody just got freed up to
- 15:39Speaker 8: win the elimination chamber.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Ye.
- 15:42Speaker 5: We also had Tiffany Stratton with Tristratus versus Ni Jack's
- 15:47Speaker 5: and Cannie Larray and a tag match. Oh it is
- 15:52Speaker 5: tag match. I thought it was a singles I did
- 15:54Speaker 5: not know that. Oh wow, oh wow. And then uh,
- 16:01Speaker 5: Sammy's a versus Kevin Owens. I I'm gonna be honest
- 16:06Speaker 5: with you, guys, this card does not look stacked. It
- 16:10Speaker 5: is not. I mean, you guys excited for Tiffany Stratton
- 16:17Speaker 5: versus Nia Jackson tag match like you guys excited to
- 16:21Speaker 5: see something I mean versus Ko for the million time?
- 16:24Speaker 8: Like, well, Sammy versus Ko, I mean it's a no
- 16:30Speaker 8: DQ match. It'll Brandon brutality. Obviously the match is probably
- 16:33Speaker 8: gonna be good, but it is what it is. I'm
- 16:38Speaker 8: sure that that could. Honestly, that could potentially be match
- 16:41Speaker 8: of the night, depending on how hard they go at
- 16:43Speaker 8: each other. The women's tag match, the Tiffany and Trish
- 16:52Speaker 8: versus Naya and Candice Larray. Obviously that's not really a
- 16:56Speaker 8: needle mover, but you know Toront's so the Tris, she'll
- 17:01Speaker 8: get a nice good popping. I'm never gonna be mad
- 17:03Speaker 8: at seeing Tris stratus, So there's that.
- 17:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:08Speaker 8: And then obviously the two elimination Chamber of matches are
- 17:13Speaker 8: what they are, we'll see most of the intrigue is
- 17:16Speaker 8: clearly gonna be at least for most of the intrigue
- 17:18Speaker 8: for me, is in the men's match, because we genuinely
- 17:23Speaker 8: don't know who's going to win that match, and you
- 17:26Speaker 8: could make an argument for damn there anybody in that
- 17:30Speaker 8: match winning it, right the women's elimination chamber match, I said,
- 17:36Speaker 8: it seems pretty obviously set up now for Bianca Bellair
- 17:40Speaker 8: to win and go on to face Rid Ripley at WrestleMania,
- 17:44Speaker 8: so that one kind of some of the intrigue has
- 17:46Speaker 8: been taken out of it, unless they decide to just
- 17:48Speaker 8: shock the shit out of us and give it and
- 17:50Speaker 8: have somebody else win other than that one that would
- 17:53Speaker 8: probably be, you know, just a good match where obviously
- 17:56Speaker 8: the women are gonna go hard, but the outcome is
- 17:58Speaker 8: gonna be pretty paint by number, right, I.
- 18:01Speaker 5: Mean, this car does seem pretty predictable.
- 18:05Speaker 8: Unless they inject the Jay Cargill storyline into it in
- 18:08Speaker 8: some way.
- 18:11Speaker 2: That could add a level of entry to it as well.
- 18:14Speaker 5: Oh, very true. All right, well, let's let's dig in here.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Let's dig in per match, get a little bit of
- 18:21Speaker 5: length out of this. See what we can do. Uh,
- 18:24Speaker 5: let's start with the the Tiffany Stratton interest Stratus versus
- 18:27Speaker 5: Naya and candicelarray. This seems to me this could totally
- 18:33Speaker 5: be like an episode something you put on Rawler SmackDown.
- 18:37Speaker 5: Doesn't need to be p l E worthy. Uh. I
- 18:41Speaker 5: thought it'd be nice if we can see Tiffany, you know,
- 18:44Speaker 5: put the title on the line considering a no, with
- 18:50Speaker 5: the history with her and Naya.
- 18:52Speaker 2: I know she she.
- 18:53Speaker 5: Already did and defended it against Night. But why why
- 18:58Speaker 5: are we just milking this? And I get I'm guessing
- 19:01Speaker 5: just milking is still wrestling, It's all. It was just filler, right,
- 19:04Speaker 5: I mean then did we even need to have it
- 19:07Speaker 5: on the card? Could have put anything else on the card.
- 19:11Speaker 5: I think this is ah. I honestly I could see
- 19:16Speaker 5: Nya win in here. And do you know why? It's
- 19:19Speaker 5: because it's a tag match, but nothing on the line.
- 19:23Speaker 5: I I I can see the odds stacked against her. Uh,
- 19:28Speaker 5: but they're gonna They're probably gonna booker strong with Trish
- 19:31Speaker 5: and go the hero's way out let the faces win.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Uh.
- 19:38Speaker 5: You know, I saw a lot of pictures today they
- 19:40Speaker 5: were posting, Uh, Trish and Timmy Stratton together like wearing
- 19:45Speaker 5: like matching outfits. It's like it's like like mother daughter almost.
- 19:50Speaker 5: They look very similar. Uh, go ahead.
- 19:55Speaker 8: Right, I saw, Yeah, I saw a picture like that,
- 19:58Speaker 8: I think when they were paired up, and yeah, they
- 20:01Speaker 8: do look very strikingly similar as far as they're not
- 20:05Speaker 8: saying that they look alike, but the whole matching in
- 20:08Speaker 8: the hair and also it was like wow, the Yeah,
- 20:12Speaker 8: I agree, like I said, the mother daughter vibes with
- 20:14Speaker 8: the mother's clearly way hotter.
- 20:16Speaker 5: But uh, yeah.
- 20:19Speaker 2: There is that.
- 20:21Speaker 8: Far as the match itself, my guess is that they're
- 20:23Speaker 8: gonna play it safe. They're gonna make the Toronto crowd
- 20:26Speaker 8: happy and have Tiffany and.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Trish go over.
- 20:31Speaker 8: Plus it will help put a final nail in this
- 20:34Speaker 8: Tiffany Stratton Nyah jack Stick since they did not give
- 20:38Speaker 8: her the clean finish in their one on one match
- 20:40Speaker 8: that they.
- 20:41Speaker 2: Had, which was a very good match.
- 20:43Speaker 8: I'll give them that, like that one on one match
- 20:45Speaker 8: they had was good and it was deserving of a
- 20:47Speaker 8: clean finish in my opinion. Like I think, as I stated,
- 20:52Speaker 8: when it happened, Tiffany Stratton to me, finally earned the
- 20:58Speaker 8: babyface accolades that she had been getting before this.
- 21:02Speaker 2: Based upon her performance in that match and.
- 21:07Speaker 8: Nia Jackson really playing up the heel factor, plus catching
- 21:11Speaker 8: the beat down afterwards, and then Charlotte sitting over her
- 21:16Speaker 8: and cutting a rather weak ass promo. Charlotte really could
- 21:18Speaker 8: have done better in that aspect of it. But coming
- 21:22Speaker 8: out of that, I felt like, Okay, Tiffany is now
- 21:25Speaker 8: really earned her babyface status. She's earned that position now,
- 21:30Speaker 8: so now I'm kind of rooting for. To me, she's
- 21:32Speaker 8: kind of been a little weak on it in the
- 21:34Speaker 8: promo since then. She kind of does need to make
- 21:36Speaker 8: that full transition over into babyface in terms of promo work,
- 21:40Speaker 8: because some of that is still coming off a bit
- 21:43Speaker 8: heelish at times. I don't know, if it's just her
- 21:45Speaker 8: character or what. But now that she's solidified in that spot,
- 21:49Speaker 8: she kind of needs to the.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Character needs to, you know, make the switch as well.
- 21:56Speaker 8: But the match yourself, like I said, it'll be pretty
- 21:59Speaker 8: paint by numbers, and I think they'll play it safe
- 22:01Speaker 8: for the Toronto crowd.
- 22:03Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah, you're right, that is true.
- 22:07Speaker 5: They are just gonna it's gonna be a quick, easy
- 22:10Speaker 5: win for the Faces, even though, like I, I can't see,
- 22:14Speaker 5: I can't never mind. I mean, like I'm looking at
- 22:18Speaker 5: it from class class half full. I was like, you
- 22:21Speaker 5: put Naya over, but like I guess Night doesn't even
- 22:24Speaker 5: need it because I don't even know what Night is
- 22:27Speaker 5: even doing for WrestleMania.
- 22:29Speaker 8: So now that she's gonna look now, I would say one,
- 22:34Speaker 8: I hope they keep Charlotte Flair out of this match,
- 22:37Speaker 8: just let this be. I hope they keep her out
- 22:39Speaker 8: of it. I think the best outcome would be if one,
- 22:44Speaker 8: like I said, Tiffany and Trish win, but also they
- 22:47Speaker 8: win by Tiffany pinning Naya. That would be the way
- 22:53Speaker 8: to definitively close the door on that feud. Don't have
- 22:57Speaker 8: Candice l Ray take the pin from Trish or take
- 22:59Speaker 8: it the pin from if he, because then that.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Still leaves the door open for Nya to try.
- 23:03Speaker 8: To insert herself in this feud, and I think they
- 23:06Speaker 8: find I think they do need to close that chapter
- 23:09Speaker 8: so that they can fully focus on Tiffany versus Charlotte
- 23:13Speaker 8: going into WrestleMania, So Tiffany should pin Nya to win
- 23:18Speaker 8: this match.
- 23:20Speaker 5: Nice before we go on, he texted me this time.
- 23:26Speaker 5: I think it's true. I think he's here.
- 23:33Speaker 3: I know I'm sexy. I've got the look. Wow, I've
- 23:42Speaker 3: got the move, I said, ship.
- 23:47Speaker 2: I'm pretty down.
- 23:49Speaker 6: That's fine.
- 23:50Speaker 5: Just a sexy boy. I'm not going.
- 23:58Speaker 4: I'm just a sexy boy.
- 24:02Speaker 5: I'm not.
- 24:07Speaker 6: Ron.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Welcome back, what is ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
- 24:12Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me back yet again.
- 24:14Speaker 10: It has been way too long.
- 24:19Speaker 5: I got your texts earlier and he said here, and
- 24:22Speaker 5: I fucking just played your theme musica in No Dude.
- 24:26Speaker 1: The set plastic. That's classic, dude, that's epic. Though, Remember
- 24:30Speaker 1: all those times when they got the crowd with the
- 24:33Speaker 1: fake freaking music with.
- 24:34Speaker 2: The what did I say, how many times they faked?
- 24:40Speaker 5: Remember that that was in Canada too, right, where they
- 24:42Speaker 5: played like Britain's music and I remember that Sean fucking.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Got oh he did that recently well as recently as later,
- 24:51Speaker 1: you know, like very later in the career too, when
- 24:54Speaker 1: he was I think he was healing against Jericho.
- 24:58Speaker 10: Maybe could be wrong, but uh but yeah, we stuff.
- 25:03Speaker 10: Sorry about that. That text, dude, I tried to text you.
- 25:05Speaker 1: As soon as I sent it, I'm like, oh no,
- 25:07Speaker 1: the music could be playing.
- 25:09Speaker 5: And then I said and then he he asked me
- 25:11Speaker 5: about changes the music and I just pictured j R.
- 25:14Speaker 5: We're live, pal lives now.
- 25:17Speaker 1: I thought that was a sid vicious reference when me
- 25:20Speaker 1: and gene Oakerland was interviewing him backstage.
- 25:23Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it, We're live.
- 25:27Speaker 10: It made me chuckle.
- 25:28Speaker 2: Oh in w c W when he was like, as fuck.
- 25:32Speaker 10: Was was that w c W? I thought that was
- 25:34Speaker 10: w w F but.
- 25:37Speaker 8: Could have been Maybe I'm thinking of somebody else who
- 25:40Speaker 8: was drunk as ship in w CW and cut a.
- 25:42Speaker 2: Terrible promo during their twilight years.
- 25:50Speaker 5: We're digging into the elimination chamber here, Ron, We're already
- 25:53Speaker 5: into the first but I did want to bring up
- 25:56Speaker 5: we did mention Sean Michaels winning the first ever elimination chamber,
- 26:01Speaker 5: wearing the terrible brown, terrible tights and the terrible haircut and.
- 26:05Speaker 10: And the terrible haircut.
- 26:08Speaker 6: Oh my god, Page boy.
- 26:11Speaker 5: Yeah he was not a sexy boy. He was a
- 26:14Speaker 5: he was an awkward looking boy.
- 26:17Speaker 1: I know they had his sport there. There was a
- 26:19Speaker 1: story behind those trunks. I forget what it was, but
- 26:22Speaker 1: what a match. That was a match the people involved
- 26:25Speaker 1: in that match. It was at Nash and R v
- 26:27Speaker 1: D and Triple H and Cain right Jericho.
- 26:31Speaker 5: It was Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Booker, T Caine, rob.
- 26:38Speaker 2: And yeah Jericho, the first ever elimination chamber. Yeah, yeah
- 26:44Speaker 2: he didn't.
- 26:47Speaker 8: I also that's when also the one where Robbing dam
- 26:51Speaker 8: like damn their crush Triple A just throat trying to
- 26:53Speaker 8: hit the five star.
- 26:54Speaker 2: Yeah, land right, but landed right on Triple A's throat, and.
- 26:58Speaker 5: You know what you gotta kind of like at that time,
- 27:02Speaker 5: it's like that's the very first ever so like judging
- 27:05Speaker 5: distance and everything, you know, doing something nobody has ever
- 27:08Speaker 5: done before, in a in a in a structure nobody's
- 27:11Speaker 5: ever been in before. Like it's fucking crazy. Like so
- 27:15Speaker 5: the fact that you know they were able to pull it,
- 27:17Speaker 5: pull off half the ship. And now the chamber is
- 27:20Speaker 5: vastly different than it was, vastly different. Why because I
- 27:23Speaker 5: helped It's like.
- 27:24Speaker 10: A trampoline now compared to what that was.
- 27:27Speaker 5: I helped build this elimination chamber up an atomic design
- 27:31Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. And uh, that's back when
- 27:35Speaker 5: Aj Styles I remember one. I think it was a
- 27:37Speaker 5: Styles or bray Wyatt. Maybe it's bray Wyatt when he
- 27:40Speaker 5: won the the the title and he won it in
- 27:43Speaker 5: the chamber. But yeah, we were I'm getting a little
- 27:48Speaker 5: side tracked. Uh, let's wrap up this match here. We
- 27:51Speaker 5: were talking about the the women's tag match, the first
- 27:54Speaker 5: on the card. Uh, Doyle, let's get let's get your
- 27:57Speaker 5: thoughts on this on this match.
- 27:59Speaker 6: The there's not much to add to this.
- 28:02Speaker 9: This is I mean, this is like the very definition
- 28:05Speaker 9: of a filler match, right Uh.
- 28:07Speaker 6: And you know, like we.
- 28:08Speaker 9: Said, we don't kind of only exists to get Trish
- 28:10Speaker 9: on the card in Toronto. And it's kind of unfortunate
- 28:15Speaker 9: that this women's tag match comes the same week as
- 28:17Speaker 9: that fucking amazing match for the title we had on
- 28:21Speaker 9: Raw that we already talked about. But because this is
- 28:24Speaker 9: not gonna be good. It's uh yeah, it's basically a
- 28:30Speaker 9: nothing burger. I think I actually think Trish is gonna
- 28:33Speaker 9: get the pinfall just because it's in Toronto. Uh and
- 28:36Speaker 9: therefore I think she'll probably pin Candae the rag. I
- 28:41Speaker 9: understand the logic of Tiffy getting the win, but if
- 28:44Speaker 9: it's Tricia in Toronto. But I Dre said he doesn't
- 28:49Speaker 9: want Charlotte Flair. I'll be shocked if Charlotte Flair does
- 28:51Speaker 9: not interfere in this. Uh if not during the match,
- 28:54Speaker 9: after the match, because like you know, Tiffy.
- 28:58Speaker 6: Has got to find a way to the bab and
- 29:01Speaker 6: face set up.
- 29:01Speaker 9: Trish has to solidify that heel tournament because she just
- 29:05Speaker 9: came out.
- 29:06Speaker 6: She came out to face Pops.
- 29:08Speaker 9: The very first promo is just like what are you doing?
- 29:12Speaker 6: And it hasn't really been clarified since then.
- 29:14Speaker 9: I don't think uh so, she needs to more solidify
- 29:17Speaker 9: herself as a heel a little bit and beaten on
- 29:19Speaker 9: Trisha and Toronto would certainly do that, but I expect
- 29:24Speaker 9: to face as a win.
- 29:25Speaker 6: Imagine at least.
- 29:26Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree with you on that one.
- 29:29Speaker 5: Yeah, Ron, what do you think this match up Timmy
- 29:32Speaker 5: Stratton Andri Stratus versus Nia Jackson Cancelor Raight.
- 29:36Speaker 1: I mean, look, you you got somebody in Tiffany Stratton
- 29:39Speaker 1: that is just, you know, again, has a rocket attached,
- 29:45Speaker 1: and you're gonna throw Trisha on there.
- 29:46Speaker 10: There may be a turn.
- 29:49Speaker 1: You know, Trish could turn because she I mean, she's
- 29:52Speaker 1: really good at that heel.
- 29:53Speaker 10: I mean I think she healed out.
- 29:55Speaker 1: She definitely healed out the last time she was around,
- 29:57Speaker 1: and then before that, I guess it was Tricia Flair
- 30:02Speaker 1: right freaking phenomenal five star match in my opinion, at
- 30:06Speaker 1: that one WrestleMania, Naya Jacks and Candace. I mean you're
- 30:12Speaker 1: thinking that, did you you think what? I didn't get
- 30:15Speaker 1: to follow a lot of this one beforehand, But did
- 30:18Speaker 1: you say not Naya, is she's healing out or she's
- 30:22Speaker 1: babyfacing on this one?
- 30:24Speaker 2: Oh? Nya is full on heel. Yeah, so that she
- 30:27Speaker 2: has not Reacher appreciation phase yet.
- 30:30Speaker 1: So I still trying.
- 30:34Speaker 6: To find her feet as a baby face.
- 30:36Speaker 9: I think, uh, when she won the title, I don't
- 30:39Speaker 9: think they intended her to turn baby face because she
- 30:41Speaker 9: kind of healed promo.
- 30:43Speaker 6: But then the crowd just.
- 30:43Speaker 9: Wouldn't stop cheering for her and now she's aligned with
- 30:46Speaker 9: trist Stratus in Toronto.
- 30:48Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't get much more babyface than that.
- 30:50Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they've they've pulled the trigger, They finally pulled
- 30:53Speaker 8: the trigger on.
- 30:53Speaker 6: But she's still trying trying to get her sea legs
- 30:56Speaker 6: as a baby face.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I think you think they do the turn to to
- 31:03Speaker 1: make tiff more of a babyface, you do the Trish
- 31:06Speaker 1: turn in Canada.
- 31:09Speaker 10: I mean it's a possibility.
- 31:11Speaker 5: I mean, like Trish was already healed, so like, I
- 31:13Speaker 5: mean I thought when she came back, I was like,
- 31:15Speaker 5: she's still a heel, right, So.
- 31:17Speaker 6: Like we're making a big deal out of that.
- 31:24Speaker 5: Unless like her teaming with Charlotte on a beatdown, because
- 31:29Speaker 5: I would never see Charlotte and Tristash on the same
- 31:33Speaker 5: page considering the rivalry between them, So that would be interesting.
- 31:37Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't think so, because.
- 31:40Speaker 2: It would be.
- 31:43Speaker 8: Only Molly rebuttal against that is that Tiffany tiff.
- 31:47Speaker 2: Tiffy is too new as a babyface.
- 31:50Speaker 8: She's just like, as Doyle says, she's just now getting
- 31:53Speaker 8: her sea legs as a baby face, and she hasn't
- 31:56Speaker 8: been portrayed as this juggernaut type person or this person
- 32:01Speaker 8: who's like overcoming obstacle after obstacle and fighting back, or this,
- 32:07Speaker 8: that and the third. She's just right now, just over
- 32:09Speaker 8: as hell with the fans. Her babyface character hasn't really
- 32:13Speaker 8: been established yet, so I don't see her as the
- 32:15Speaker 8: type to suddenly be a babyface and then now already
- 32:20Speaker 8: about to have to face one legend in Charlotte Flair
- 32:24Speaker 8: at Wrestlemedia or one veteran in charlottet WrestleMania. But then
- 32:28Speaker 8: they're gonna stack the odds against her even more by
- 32:30Speaker 8: adding Trish.
- 32:31Speaker 2: On top of it.
- 32:32Speaker 8: So now going into WrestleMania, she has to deal with
- 32:34Speaker 8: Trish and Charlotte and somehow overcome that as a new babyface,
- 32:39Speaker 8: still fairly new ish on the main roster less than
- 32:42Speaker 8: two years, I think on the main roster, I think
- 32:45Speaker 8: I think that's a little bit much to put on
- 32:47Speaker 8: her plate right now while she's still figuring things out
- 32:50Speaker 8: as a babyface.
- 32:52Speaker 2: I think Trish now is more there.
- 32:55Speaker 8: To give her the rub, the babyface rub, and helps
- 32:58Speaker 8: solidify that like, Okay, she's good now, here's the legend
- 33:01Speaker 8: also co signing her being good now, and yeah, that
- 33:05Speaker 8: just to build her up and give her that momentum
- 33:07Speaker 8: in that rub going into a feud with someone the
- 33:11Speaker 8: caliber of a Charlotte Flair.
- 33:14Speaker 9: Yeah, if it wasn't WrestleMania season, I would say, yeah,
- 33:17Speaker 9: that's a possibility.
- 33:18Speaker 6: But they're gonna, Yeah, they're gonna.
- 33:20Speaker 9: If anything, they're gonna make tiffany more babyface for sure.
- 33:26Speaker 5: Cool guys, cool, cool, cool. All right, let's move on
- 33:30Speaker 5: to the next match on the card. We got Sammy
- 33:32Speaker 5: Zing versus Kevin Owens for the one billion time in
- 33:36Speaker 5: a unsanctioned match. Now, uh, I can't remember the last
- 33:41Speaker 5: time we had a unsanctioned matched. And for people who
- 33:45Speaker 5: don't know what.
- 33:46Speaker 10: That, they're gonna take that all the way to WrestleMania.
- 33:49Speaker 5: Yeah. For people who don't know what an unsanctioned match is,
- 33:52Speaker 5: it's a very I have the the wrestling definition here.
- 33:56Speaker 5: A variant of hardcore match is a non sanction match,
- 33:59Speaker 5: un sanctioned match match, or lights out match in a
- 34:02Speaker 5: distance match not having any rules and the objective being
- 34:06Speaker 5: achieving a pin for submission anywhere the match is not
- 34:10Speaker 5: officially recognized by the promotion. Ah, it doesn't count. Yeah,
- 34:17Speaker 5: and k fabe. The match is sometimes used when a
- 34:20Speaker 5: wrestler is injured in the hands of another wrestler and
- 34:24Speaker 5: wants revenge, but can not be medically cleared. Thus he
- 34:28Speaker 5: agrees to a non sanctioned match where the promotion is
- 34:31Speaker 5: not hell liable for any injuries occurring during the match.
- 34:35Speaker 8: Wow, such as what happened with Ah and Shawn Michaels
- 34:39Speaker 8: this Summer Slam in two thousand and two.
- 34:41Speaker 10: Yes, oh yes, yes, what a match.
- 34:45Speaker 5: Yeah, he took him out with a sledgehammer at the end.
- 34:51Speaker 5: I'll never forget. It was great.
- 34:55Speaker 10: Was that great?
- 34:57Speaker 5: It was? It was great because that started.
- 35:01Speaker 8: It was we were all happy to finally get Sean back.
- 35:06Speaker 8: I remember when they had the they cut the promo
- 35:07Speaker 8: on Raw where they both came out to the d
- 35:10Speaker 8: X theme and they're all getting hype and ship and
- 35:13Speaker 8: also let's get ready to suck and.
- 35:20Speaker 2: Ron.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, Ron, you being like the huge like HB
- 35:25Speaker 5: a K fan and me being the huge triple H fan.
- 35:28Speaker 5: I in that moment, I felt like the scene in
- 35:31Speaker 5: like Batman Forever where like the where Jim Carrey's Riddler
- 35:34Speaker 5: is just laughing at the TV.
- 35:35Speaker 2: That was me.
- 35:36Speaker 5: Just Yeah, it was like, it was great because we
- 35:43Speaker 5: wanted we did, but we I know, dude, it was
- 35:47Speaker 5: such a fucking cock tis because we wanted d X
- 35:50Speaker 5: back and then it's but it started the rivalry, which,
- 35:54Speaker 5: like I said, was fucking.
- 35:55Speaker 10: Great, and then stages I think.
- 35:59Speaker 5: Yeah, and then and then we got with you know,
- 36:02Speaker 5: we're talking like the three stages held on Armageddon and
- 36:04Speaker 5: then led to well, no, is that that's after the
- 36:08Speaker 5: elimination chamber, right.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Yeah, wasn't that?
- 36:12Speaker 5: The follow was that, Yeah, that's Army again. That's where
- 36:15Speaker 5: he lost. That's where Michaels lost the title back to
- 36:18Speaker 5: Triple Ah.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Right right right?
- 36:20Speaker 1: But uh yeah, like because after that they had the
- 36:24Speaker 1: last man standing match that we were at at the Rumble,
- 36:27Speaker 1: which I think they both got counted out.
- 36:30Speaker 5: Count Let me tell you guys, how when Triple A
- 36:33Speaker 5: put Shawn Michaels through the table, Ron had nachos in
- 36:38Speaker 5: his hand, I say, had, yeah, dude, Yeah, it was
- 36:43Speaker 5: a chee sy That's what it was, because it went
- 36:45Speaker 5: all over the fucking place, all over me, all over the.
- 36:51Speaker 10: That was the springboard.
- 36:52Speaker 1: I think that Triple moved out of the way and
- 36:55Speaker 1: Michael sent himself to the table.
- 36:57Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 36:58Speaker 5: I remember being there for that one.
- 36:59Speaker 2: That but in the three stages of hell match or
- 37:02Speaker 2: the Last Man Standing.
- 37:03Speaker 10: That was the last man standing at the Rumble.
- 37:07Speaker 5: Yeah, rivalry, Uh, always straying away? Uh, what what we're
- 37:15Speaker 5: talking about? Oh on sanction match, Let's bring it back,
- 37:21Speaker 5: bring it back. You know, these guys like they've I've
- 37:24Speaker 5: seen the rivalry for for quite some time. I know
- 37:27Speaker 5: this is now an a different iteration of these two characters.
- 37:31Speaker 5: These guys are both leveled up to a higher standard. Uh,
- 37:34Speaker 5: like you, Like you said anything, Ko is just always fresh,
- 37:38Speaker 5: no matter what rivalry you put him in, wherever you
- 37:41Speaker 5: put him, I'm good. You know, I don't care who
- 37:44Speaker 5: he's feeding with. Uh. I don't know. I just feel
- 37:48Speaker 5: like I've seen this rivalry between these two characters as
- 37:53Speaker 5: of recent right.
- 37:55Speaker 2: Uh.
- 37:55Speaker 5: And it's always the same.
- 37:57Speaker 2: You know.
- 37:57Speaker 5: Ko is always the heel and Sammy's always the face.
- 38:03Speaker 5: I don't know, it would be kind of nice for once,
- 38:04Speaker 5: maybe it be the other way around.
- 38:06Speaker 2: But after school, special boy gonna do as a heel.
- 38:13Speaker 5: Sammy's he for a minute.
- 38:18Speaker 8: When he was the when he had the hat in
- 38:23Speaker 8: the in the.
- 38:24Speaker 5: The screen jacket that he wore every every week. Mm hmmm, yeah,
- 38:29Speaker 5: that's yeah. I can't think of like peak Sammy's a maybe.
- 38:33Speaker 5: Bull Line is peak sammu'se ain Like in the.
- 38:36Speaker 8: Blood Line, he was definitely peak. Sammy's a maybe you
- 38:43Speaker 8: could say him, you know when he uh what you
- 38:46Speaker 8: call it? When the title that when he defeated Gunter
- 38:51Speaker 8: for the i C title. Yeah, maybe that was his
- 38:54Speaker 8: peak thus far. But somewhere between that and the blood Line,
- 38:59Speaker 8: the peak.
- 39:00Speaker 5: Are always going to be upper mid card for me.
- 39:05Speaker 5: But do you do you guys see any of these
- 39:07Speaker 5: two winning a world title within the next like three.
- 39:10Speaker 2: Years Kevin Owens hopefully remember.
- 39:15Speaker 5: It's been a long time since KOs held a world
- 39:17Speaker 5: title a long time.
- 39:19Speaker 1: You need to put their title on Punk eventually and
- 39:21Speaker 1: then have Kevin Owens taken from But I mean think
- 39:24Speaker 1: about it with standing.
- 39:25Speaker 10: You want to talk about over.
- 39:27Speaker 1: I think he's the one of the main reasons why
- 39:30Speaker 1: the blood Line became. I mean, come on, everyone's talked
- 39:33Speaker 1: about it. I'm not sayingthing new. He saved that entire storyline.
- 39:36Speaker 1: He injected it with another genuineness that was relatable.
- 39:41Speaker 10: It was amazing what he did there, I agree over.
- 39:47Speaker 6: But.
- 39:49Speaker 5: What was that? Who was that? Who was that? Right?
- 39:56Speaker 2: He injected some energy in it.
- 39:59Speaker 8: I'll give him that he gave it a different dimension
- 40:03Speaker 8: that it did not have before. There was definitely an
- 40:07Speaker 8: entertainment value that he contributed to it was that made
- 40:11Speaker 8: them different from being just a dominant staple of bad guys.
- 40:15Speaker 8: So I'll give him that that he he gave him
- 40:19Speaker 8: a different dimension and a different entertainment value to.
- 40:22Speaker 6: It to huh, injected humor into yes.
- 40:26Speaker 8: Yes, a certain lightheartedness that enabled the fans to kind
- 40:30Speaker 8: of get behind it as opposed to just hating everything.
- 40:33Speaker 2: That they did. So I'll give him that.
- 40:35Speaker 8: I don't know what I would say that he like
- 40:38Speaker 8: saved it or anything like.
- 40:40Speaker 9: I mean, I think I would argue that he's a
- 40:42Speaker 9: big part of the reason you can tell the difference
- 40:43Speaker 9: between Jay and Jimmy now, dude, Yeah, I.
- 40:49Speaker 5: Agree with that.
- 40:50Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely give him that.
- 40:53Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I think I think, well, you got
- 40:57Speaker 9: two ends of the spectrum that Sammy's but uh, yeah,
- 41:03Speaker 9: I mean I think I probably praised him too much.
- 41:07Speaker 6: Andre, I think you're a little too hard on him.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 41:09Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you might not know this, Ron, but I
- 41:11Speaker 8: am resident. Sammy's ain't hitter. I dunk on him every
- 41:15Speaker 8: opportunity I get, especially especially this current iteration of him
- 41:20Speaker 8: post bloodline. I feel like he is just a walking,
- 41:24Speaker 8: talking after school special, especially this fucking Monday where he
- 41:31Speaker 8: cut that stupid ass promo. I went to Kevin Owen's house,
- 41:35Speaker 8: didn't know what I was gonna do, but his mom
- 41:37Speaker 8: was there and I wound up hanging out with her
- 41:39Speaker 8: and we talked for a while. After I got home,
- 41:43Speaker 8: I couldn't barely stand to look at myself because what
- 41:46Speaker 8: I was going to do. Shut the funk up with
- 41:48Speaker 8: that little stupid ass bullshit. You're a shady of yourself
- 41:52Speaker 8: because you went to somebody cribbed to whooped they ass
- 41:54Speaker 8: and wound up kicking it with their moms.
- 41:56Speaker 2: That's look out of here.
- 41:58Speaker 8: If this would have been the attitude there, know what
- 42:00Speaker 8: him and his he would have done with Kao's mom.
- 42:02Speaker 8: Yeah exactly, and I don't even have to say it.
- 42:06Speaker 8: You are my name right right, he'd win, he'd win
- 42:11Speaker 8: sexual white chocolate on.
- 42:12Speaker 5: Our ass, Like yeah, your mom right.
- 42:19Speaker 8: It wouldn't have been none of this shame to myself.
- 42:21Speaker 8: He was like, yeah, we just see a video. What's
- 42:25Speaker 8: ko Me and your mom's kicking it? Where you at
- 42:28Speaker 8: food in the bed that's what happened. But now no,
- 42:32Speaker 8: we get this little dumb ass ship. I'm ashamed of myself.
- 42:35Speaker 8: Shut the fuck up.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Kevin Drans fucking pile, drives him.
- 42:38Speaker 5: Off the top road. Just dull. It's just like, I mean,
- 42:43Speaker 5: Kao is bringing bringing it as he always does, like
- 42:46Speaker 5: he I love how he does his promos. He does
- 42:48Speaker 5: him from like the car now, which he's just so
- 42:51Speaker 5: off the cuff with all his promos.
- 42:58Speaker 1: I think I'm totally on bored with you about the
- 43:00Speaker 1: whole sami's Ain thing. I'm actually not a very big
- 43:03Speaker 1: sammis Ain fan. As soon as he grew the beard,
- 43:04Speaker 1: I kind of actually was like, eh, but I started
- 43:08Speaker 1: appreciating him with the Bloodline stuff he did, and now
- 43:11Speaker 1: it just went right back to the same old like
- 43:14Speaker 1: you're meant for a mid card that sucks for you.
- 43:17Speaker 10: But like, especially if you're doing you know, that.
- 43:20Speaker 1: Stuff from last week, like he's not writing it, but shit, dull.
- 43:26Speaker 5: Right, all right, Well with that said, and I don't.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Think his characters changed really that much.
- 43:31Speaker 8: I just think when it was with when he was
- 43:33Speaker 8: with the Blood Light, it made for a good contrast
- 43:36Speaker 8: against somebody like Roman Reigns. Sami's ain't being you know,
- 43:40Speaker 8: the more straight laced, white red counter to the you know, ruthless,
- 43:46Speaker 8: hard nosed travel chief Roman Reigns and even the usos.
- 43:51Speaker 8: He made a good contrast. But now that it's just
- 43:53Speaker 8: him and his characters standing alone.
- 43:57Speaker 10: Yeah, he's fun when he's ten.
- 44:01Speaker 8: Yeah, because there was a contrast Kevin Owens, the high strung,
- 44:06Speaker 8: off the wires, always ready to fight somebody, versus Sammy
- 44:11Speaker 8: the more even killed.
- 44:13Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk this out. Kevins funk that ship, Let's
- 44:15Speaker 2: just fight. Mm hm. That was a contrast. I think
- 44:19Speaker 2: that's probably where Sammy works his best, is.
- 44:21Speaker 8: When his character has somebody that's opposite or different to
- 44:26Speaker 8: bounce off of.
- 44:28Speaker 10: Someone who's harder.
- 44:30Speaker 2: Yeah, him just being the.
- 44:32Speaker 8: Straight laced after school special by himself, it just wears thin.
- 44:37Speaker 2: Hm hm hm.
- 44:40Speaker 5: Uh. Well, I mean I'm assuming or not assuming, but
- 44:43Speaker 5: I think Cho should go over in this match. So
- 44:50Speaker 5: I don't what what is Sammy gonna get out of this?
- 44:54Speaker 1: What sam if a company can get something out of it,
- 44:57Speaker 1: if someone runs in and they can interject someone else
- 45:01Speaker 1: for one of the two to move forward the mania with.
- 45:04Speaker 5: Are you suggesting.
- 45:08Speaker 2: Right?
- 45:08Speaker 5: Yeah? I insert Randy Orton, oh man, Yeah, because what
- 45:15Speaker 5: does Orton do for Mania? You know, so like insert
- 45:18Speaker 5: him in this somehow, I don't know. I mean, at
- 45:21Speaker 5: least with.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Him at KO, assuming he comes back from Mania.
- 45:26Speaker 9: Sure, yeah, I got I thought Ron you had asked
- 45:31Speaker 9: if this is going to go through to Mania.
- 45:33Speaker 6: I kind of thought this was going to be a
- 45:35Speaker 6: Mania match.
- 45:37Speaker 9: But I wonder if if they went to them and said, hey, guys,
- 45:40Speaker 9: you want to be like just another match at WrestleMania,
- 45:42Speaker 9: or do you want a main event in Toronto, you know, like,
- 45:47Speaker 9: and they might have gone like, oh, let's do that instead.
- 45:50Speaker 9: I could see if Randy comes back. I could see
- 45:53Speaker 9: this meeting Ko and Randy at Mania and then you
- 45:58Speaker 9: throw Sammy and whatever the ladder match for the IC
- 46:01Speaker 9: title is or what you know. That's a possibility, you know,
- 46:06Speaker 9: But I could also just as easily see them running
- 46:09Speaker 9: this back too, because there is no maybe this ends
- 46:12Speaker 9: with no definitive winner, or maybe it ends because of
- 46:16Speaker 9: Shenanigans or whatever, we have to do it again.
- 46:19Speaker 1: You Alora gets stopped early because Kevin Owen's is gonna
- 46:21Speaker 1: eat his face or something, you know, like they just.
- 46:24Speaker 9: Well, yeah, like I can see like, yeah, Kevin's about
- 46:27Speaker 9: to like literally kill Sammy, and Randy comes back to say,
- 46:31Speaker 9: you know, like I can see something like that happening.
- 46:35Speaker 10: It will be entertaining.
- 46:36Speaker 6: Nonetheless, Yeah, I mean I think this might. Last time
- 46:39Speaker 6: I said this, we got the Uzzo's dud, But I
- 46:43Speaker 6: think this might be a match of the Year candidate.
- 46:45Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna love this.
- 46:46Speaker 9: It's gonna be brutal and bloody, you know, basically a
- 46:51Speaker 9: hockey fight in a wrestling ring, and probably all over
- 46:55Speaker 9: the arena too.
- 46:56Speaker 6: I imagine this is just this is my cup of tea.
- 47:00Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, this because this definitely hasn't match with the
- 47:03Speaker 8: night potential and show stealing potential if they really let
- 47:07Speaker 8: them cook and go at it, and I think they will.
- 47:10Speaker 5: Let's see some hockey jerseys put on. And did they
- 47:15Speaker 5: did that before? They put on hockey jerseys and beat.
- 47:17Speaker 2: The Sherif Yeah, they did that. And uh Pittsburgh.
- 47:22Speaker 8: When they were the tag team and they had the
- 47:24Speaker 8: title match they were depending in against Judgment, they.
- 47:27Speaker 5: Yeah, I could see that happening again there in Toronto.
- 47:30Speaker 5: I mean, like, let's put on some fucking jerzyst.
- 47:34Speaker 8: Maybe one of them, but not both of them. Since
- 47:36Speaker 8: Kato is obviously a heel k I could.
- 47:40Speaker 6: See him putting on a Canadians jersey, you know, like if.
- 47:43Speaker 2: You want to troll the audience talk.
- 47:46Speaker 5: About I love Kao's way of trolling people with T
- 47:50Speaker 5: shirts so good with that, right, Like like when he
- 47:55Speaker 5: was with Computer with Cody was wearing like you know,
- 47:58Speaker 5: dusty road shirts and ship like that the hell yeah,
- 48:01Speaker 5: because you know, like, uh, certain wrestlers would kind of
- 48:04Speaker 5: do that. Remember Rick Ruber used to do that with
- 48:07Speaker 5: his pants. He's like like your opponent's like wife on
- 48:11Speaker 5: your pants. Like I thought that ship was kind of
- 48:14Speaker 5: like clever, like just getting inside the mind of your opponent,
- 48:17Speaker 5: you know. And Ko he was awesome. And Ko doesn't
- 48:22Speaker 5: have like a jacked body. So Ko advertises with what
- 48:26Speaker 5: he's got. He's got that fucking shirt man, and he's
- 48:30Speaker 5: always got just like you know, that's what's he's strong with.
- 48:33Speaker 5: I think that's fun, just like fucking Drew McIntyre's strongest
- 48:36Speaker 5: ship on Twitter, Like the man's fucking funniest fuck on Twitter.
- 48:41Speaker 10: Like, you know, there there's been a lot of good ones.
- 48:43Speaker 1: There was one that he did when he was facing
- 48:45Speaker 1: Miz that that I wanted to get I forget what
- 48:47Speaker 1: what what he did, but he was he it was
- 48:49Speaker 1: just genius.
- 48:52Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw. I'm curious to know what shirt he's
- 48:55Speaker 5: gonna wear for the placause he was wearing a heart
- 49:01Speaker 5: jersey I think the other the other week.
- 49:06Speaker 8: I don't know, be kind of funny if he wore
- 49:08Speaker 8: a shirt that had a picture of Ruman Range when
- 49:11Speaker 8: he was kicking his ass. What was it last year
- 49:13Speaker 8: when they had their title match elimination chamber? And wasn't
- 49:16Speaker 8: that in Canada last year or year before last?
- 49:20Speaker 2: I think?
- 49:21Speaker 6: So?
- 49:22Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I have that picture with Sammy's ames where
- 49:25Speaker 8: Roman was kicking Sammy's names ass and talking ship to
- 49:29Speaker 8: his wife.
- 49:29Speaker 6: Two years ago.
- 49:30Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, because it was in Perth, Australia last Yeah.
- 49:34Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah yeah two years ago.
- 49:36Speaker 5: Then anybody else want to put anything else into this
- 49:40Speaker 5: match before I move on?
- 49:43Speaker 1: Oh man, just to get you to go back with
- 49:46Speaker 1: what you said about when so when when he was
- 49:48Speaker 1: against Cody, his shirt said the Canadian dreams son of
- 49:51Speaker 1: a security systems technician.
- 49:53Speaker 10: Oh yeah, he did have some good ones, Cody's remember
- 50:01Speaker 10: that I'm on the internet.
- 50:08Speaker 5: Finally good shirts? All right, while you keep looking for shirts.
- 50:14Speaker 5: Wants to move on to the women's elimination Chamber match
- 50:18Speaker 5: for the women's world title. We have Live Morgan world
- 50:23Speaker 5: title opportunity, oh world, oh yeah, world title, sorry, world
- 50:27Speaker 5: title opportunity at WrestleMania Live Morgan, Bianca, Bella Air, Alexa
- 50:34Speaker 5: Bliss for Attorney, Alexiblis, Bailey, Naomi and Roxane Perez. And
- 50:42Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, I kind of like this card
- 50:46Speaker 5: because I feel like it's you can set up a
- 50:49Speaker 5: couple of feuds in here for WrestleMania. There's a team
- 50:53Speaker 5: in there, right, there's a tag team in here. Well, yeah,
- 50:57Speaker 5: a tag team that just lost their tag titles. We
- 51:01Speaker 5: got liv Morgan, who's hot off of being a women's
- 51:04Speaker 5: World champion, but now she's a tag champion. But it
- 51:08Speaker 5: looks like I feel like her and Alexa Bliss have
- 51:11Speaker 5: some tension with each other.
- 51:12Speaker 10: Oh big time.
- 51:14Speaker 5: And then you got the you know, the wild card.
- 51:17Speaker 5: I would say it would be Roxan Perez and or Bailey.
- 51:22Speaker 10: Has that happened often? What with it with the n
- 51:25Speaker 10: XT talent being interfused in something like this?
- 51:29Speaker 8: Not too often, but like right now, Roxamperez is kind
- 51:33Speaker 8: of tweeting between NXT and main roster like she she's
- 51:38Speaker 8: obviously main roster and probably raw bound. I think she
- 51:42Speaker 8: just in the final days of her time in n XT.
- 51:47Speaker 2: The same thing.
- 51:47Speaker 6: They did the same thing with Tiffy last year.
- 51:50Speaker 9: She had a great show Anton Rumble, and then she
- 51:52Speaker 9: was in the chamber and she got called up somewhere
- 51:55Speaker 9: in there.
- 51:56Speaker 6: I might have been right after, right before, I can't remember.
- 51:58Speaker 8: Yeah, like shortly thereafter Tiffy made her main roster debut,
- 52:03Speaker 8: pretty much.
- 52:04Speaker 6: On the Tiffany Tiffy timeline.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I said.
- 52:08Speaker 8: My guess is for Roxanne is looks like she's probably
- 52:14Speaker 8: I think as I mentioned before, she's seems like she's
- 52:17Speaker 8: lined up to have a match with Jordan Grace up
- 52:22Speaker 8: to upcoming soon, either at Stand Deliver or maybe they
- 52:26Speaker 8: book it for a roadblock or something time in between,
- 52:30Speaker 8: at which point Jordan Grace will probably win that match
- 52:34Speaker 8: get her look back from last year when Jordan Grace
- 52:38Speaker 8: was still in TNA and was the TNA Women's Champion
- 52:41Speaker 8: and challenged Roxanne for the NXT Women's title and lost.
- 52:45Speaker 8: So they'll probably balance that out with Jordan Grace getting
- 52:48Speaker 8: the win over Roxanne. That'll probably be her final NXT
- 52:52Speaker 8: match before permanently taking residents on the raw roster.
- 52:56Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 52:56Speaker 6: Man, she's been ready for at least a year too,
- 52:59Speaker 6: and I'm glad.
- 52:59Speaker 9: I'm glad they haven't called her up if they didn't
- 53:02Speaker 9: have anything for her to fucking do when she got there.
- 53:04Speaker 9: It seems like they call these kids up and only
- 53:08Speaker 9: one or two a year actually end up being worth
- 53:10Speaker 9: a damn because.
- 53:11Speaker 6: They don't have funk it all for any of the
- 53:12Speaker 6: other ones to do.
- 53:14Speaker 10: I think they need a fourth hour of WRAW.
- 53:16Speaker 5: Yes, you know, I think they need to add another
- 53:23Speaker 5: show because now we have that LFG ship on Sunday,
- 53:28Speaker 5: Like I thought Sunday, I thought.
- 53:30Speaker 2: They do have another show.
- 53:31Speaker 9: It's on to b Yeah, yeah, we have LFG and
- 53:34Speaker 9: if you win that, you get to go on Evolve
- 53:36Speaker 9: and if you win that, you get to go on NXT.
- 53:38Speaker 1: And if you win that, you get to go on
- 53:40Speaker 1: to the main Just like, I'm just waiting for them
- 53:44Speaker 1: to start sending people.
- 53:45Speaker 10: To t n A too.
- 53:47Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah that that that will be likely happening at
- 53:51Speaker 8: some point. There will be plenty of crossover at.
- 53:55Speaker 10: Least, Like what do you guys think about possibly?
- 53:57Speaker 1: I mean Bliss just came back, you know Roxanna, you
- 54:01Speaker 1: know she gets her flowers by kicking it hard, proven
- 54:06Speaker 1: she belongs and this this is Alexa Bliss's comeback story
- 54:10Speaker 1: and it ends up being Roxanna, Perez Bailey and Alexa Bliss,
- 54:15Speaker 1: you know, as the final three.
- 54:19Speaker 2: There's a woman in the match named Bianca bel Air,
- 54:24Speaker 2: but they really.
- 54:25Speaker 10: They haven't been.
- 54:27Speaker 1: I feel like she's gonna be in that tag team
- 54:29Speaker 1: bracket for a little bit longer until some of these
- 54:31Speaker 1: other girls come up, and then she maybe a year
- 54:33Speaker 1: or two later, she's like, don't forget about me, and
- 54:35Speaker 1: she comes and starts bench pressent.
- 54:38Speaker 2: I don't know, I think I think that time is now.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Think what they've been.
- 54:43Speaker 8: They have teased us with a Biaco bell Air Versus
- 54:46Speaker 8: Rock versus Rea Ripley match for at least probably three years. Yes,
- 54:53Speaker 8: it was like elimination Chamber maybe like three years ago
- 54:56Speaker 8: when both of them, both Ria and Bianca were in it,
- 55:00Speaker 8: and they tease the confrontation then and have not done
- 55:02Speaker 8: anything with it since then. Both of them have elevated
- 55:07Speaker 8: to basically the top of the women's division.
- 55:10Speaker 2: Now.
- 55:11Speaker 8: Bianca Belair put her time in pretty much all of
- 55:14Speaker 8: last year in the tag division more or less in
- 55:17Speaker 8: the mid card, while still remaining one of the most
- 55:20Speaker 8: popular women in the division. Jade is ready to come
- 55:24Speaker 8: back imminently and probably getting to stand on her own
- 55:28Speaker 8: in a singles feud. Nail me as well, We'll probably
- 55:31Speaker 8: maybe be there with her. It's signed for Bianca to
- 55:35Speaker 8: step back into the singles scene and re establish herself
- 55:40Speaker 8: on the top of the women's roster as a singles competitor.
- 55:43Speaker 8: And we're going into wrestlemin so we know it's all
- 55:46Speaker 8: about the big matches. Then there's no way in hell
- 55:49Speaker 8: in my eyes, Bianca Belair doesn't win this match.
- 55:53Speaker 5: I absolutely agree with you, Dre. You know, looking back,
- 55:58Speaker 5: the last time Ria and Bianca crossed paths in a
- 56:03Speaker 5: singles match was an NXT title match, and that was
- 56:06Speaker 5: a long time ago NXT and since then, both of
- 56:10Speaker 5: them have reached elevations of great heights. So seeing this
- 56:15Speaker 5: iteration of both of these characters, uh, head to head
- 56:20Speaker 5: at WrestleMania for sure, man, I I absolutely agree Bianca's.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Is the one.
- 56:25Speaker 5: The second they took those TIG titles off, you know,
- 56:28Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's it, I know it right away,
- 56:31Speaker 5: and I'm like, I'm thinking, you know now that if
- 56:35Speaker 5: I want to dig the rest in here, where I
- 56:36Speaker 5: think the rest of the women are going. Like I said,
- 56:39Speaker 5: I think we were getting some I thought we were
- 56:43Speaker 5: getting some sort of tension between Live and Alexa and
- 56:49Speaker 5: and I and I understand because they eliminated each one
- 56:52Speaker 5: eliminated the other from the rumble. They have a lot
- 56:56Speaker 5: of history together as a tag team. There was a
- 56:58Speaker 5: few starting before Alexe. Let but and I know we're like, well,
- 57:04Speaker 5: but Live and in Raquel are now in the tag
- 57:07Speaker 5: team scene. Well, Alexa Bliss could get a tag team partner,
- 57:13Speaker 5: a former tag partner who's now in the Why six
- 57:17Speaker 5: kind of fit well to be a tag partner to
- 57:20Speaker 5: go after those tag titles of WrestleMania, you know, Alexa Bliss,
- 57:24Speaker 5: and you know what I mean, like, bring them to
- 57:27Speaker 5: the Y six, bring those women tag titles over. I
- 57:29Speaker 5: mean that's where I'm kind of piecing together here. Honestly,
- 57:34Speaker 5: I don't know what we're doing with Bailey yet or
- 57:38Speaker 5: Roxanne right there right there, I mean exactly.
- 57:44Speaker 8: Right, they've been They've been having tension for a while now,
- 57:47Speaker 8: since over over on NXT, which yeah, you wouldn't be
- 57:50Speaker 8: aware of if you haven't been watching. But yeah, Bailey
- 57:53Speaker 8: and Roxanne have been having back and forth for almost
- 57:58Speaker 8: going on a month now, So I guess there's something
- 58:01Speaker 8: will happen in this match that will probably lead towards
- 58:04Speaker 8: a Bailey Roxanne Perez match, probably at Wrestle Media or
- 58:09Speaker 8: going into Wrestle Media. I could see that Happeningsmania, Baby
- 58:13Speaker 8: standing to deliver, but my guess is probably Wrestle Media,
- 58:16Speaker 8: and that will be the beginning of Roxanne on the
- 58:21Speaker 8: main roster in her first major main roster feud. And
- 58:24Speaker 8: we all know how Bailey is all about putting people over,
- 58:28Speaker 8: putting the next one over. She's as unself she's as
- 58:31Speaker 8: selfless as it gets.
- 58:34Speaker 1: That would be a great chance to get her over
- 58:35Speaker 1: at Mania, even if she loses, having a great match
- 58:38Speaker 1: with Bailey, it would would mean a.
- 58:40Speaker 5: Lot, right, And that's cool. It's like the elimination chamber matches.
- 58:44Speaker 5: It within the chamber match itself is a WrestleMania rivalry
- 58:49Speaker 5: beginning or starting, or you know what I mean. Like
- 58:52Speaker 5: it's within the chamber itself. We see two of them
- 58:55Speaker 5: right here, potential.
- 58:56Speaker 8: Of two of them, ye, So, and that's one other
- 59:00Speaker 8: reason why I think j Cargill could possibly probably also
- 59:04Speaker 8: probably very high likelihood that she could factor into this
- 59:08Speaker 8: match in some way.
- 59:10Speaker 9: I mean, if is gonna if in your scenario, if
- 59:14Speaker 9: Beka is gonna win the match, and I have a different.
- 59:17Speaker 6: Winner by the way, I've been I've been.
- 59:22Speaker 10: For for weeks.
- 59:23Speaker 9: I thought was gonna win, but they just haven't progressed
- 59:27Speaker 9: this fucking Jay Cargo storyline, like if it was already
- 59:31Speaker 9: over sure Beyonca, but it's still hanging there so like
- 59:36Speaker 9: and I we all want to see Ria and Bianca, absolutely,
- 59:39Speaker 9: but they're both babyfaces, right if that match is going
- 59:42Speaker 9: to happen, I want one of them to be a heel.
- 59:44Speaker 9: I don't care which one it is, but I want
- 59:46Speaker 9: want of them to be a heel. And if Bean
- 59:47Speaker 9: is going to turn heel, it means she beat up Jade.
- 59:49Speaker 6: And if she beat up.
- 59:50Speaker 9: Jade, she has to have a match with Jade, which
- 59:52Speaker 9: means she can't have a match with Riya, and they
- 59:55Speaker 9: just I don't know. I think Naomi did it, by
- 59:59Speaker 9: the way, so maybe the match Naomi and Jade and
- 1:00:02Speaker 9: beyond just.
- 1:00:03Speaker 5: Free to do the same thing, even though they said
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: it was live and Raquel it's not.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Nobody. H Uh. No, I think.
- 1:00:19Speaker 6: I think Live is gonna win. And I'll tell you why.
- 1:00:22Speaker 9: I know, you know, uh, if you're fucking been done
- 1:00:27Speaker 9: to death forever Live in Ria by the end there.
- 1:00:30Speaker 6: It was stale as fuck.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: I know that. Uh.
- 1:00:34Speaker 6: But that was before they made this EO, Sky and
- 1:00:36Speaker 6: Ria match for Raw this Monday, right.
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: Uh.
- 1:00:42Speaker 9: I think for sure Lives wins. The Chamber interferes in
- 1:00:45Speaker 9: that match, uh, and then gets thrown into a three
- 1:00:48Speaker 9: way at WrestleMania with Ria, EO and Live.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: Ah.
- 1:00:54Speaker 6: That's where I think they're going.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: I think.
- 1:00:58Speaker 6: I think Alexa Bliss.
- 1:00:59Speaker 9: I love the idea of Lexa Bliss and Nikky Kross
- 1:01:03Speaker 9: is being a tag team.
- 1:01:05Speaker 6: Not talking to you.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: I love it.
- 1:01:17Speaker 9: I'd like to I'd like to walk after the tag titles,
- 1:01:20Speaker 9: but I'd like to walk back.
- 1:01:23Speaker 10: To this idea of of Riha and Bianca.
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Now from a television production standpoint, So the very first
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: episode of Raw on Netflix, I really think, and tell
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, they decided to have Riha Ripley
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: have the last frame, so she ended the night. I'm
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: pretty sure she was the one on the camera by herself.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: I feel like she is a Netflix face right now,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: and I think that if the face for Netflix kind
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: of like maybe like one of the Netflix girls, one
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: of the people that they want to get behind, or
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: you know.
- 1:02:02Speaker 10: So, I feel like next time Bianca faces Rhea, she.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: Needs the beat, and I don't think they're ready to
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: take that belt off of Ria.
- 1:02:11Speaker 10: Just yet, not even at Mania.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: So just to get back to what you were talking about,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: you know, Beyonca needing her getting her chance to overcome that,
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I just don't think with that in mind, if that's
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: in case factual, that that I think that they would
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: have that at this Mania, because I don't think anyone's
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: beating riad Mania.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: Well to that extent.
- 1:02:36Speaker 8: I would say the strongest argument against Bianca versus Ria
- 1:02:41Speaker 8: is the question of who wins. Because as much as
- 1:02:44Speaker 8: you could make the argument that you don't see anybody
- 1:02:47Speaker 8: beating Ria at Mania, Bianca also has an undefeated streak
- 1:02:52Speaker 8: at WrestleMania right now. It's not as you know, loud
- 1:02:56Speaker 8: and profound as Undertaker's streak, but it is something that
- 1:03:00Speaker 8: people are aware of, and it is this something that's
- 1:03:02Speaker 8: been brought up to. Let going into Mania these last
- 1:03:04Speaker 8: couple of times, she has yet to lose at WrestleMania,
- 1:03:08Speaker 8: So there's also that's a factor in as well.
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: So they're both young, they're both gonna be around.
- 1:03:15Speaker 8: For Yeah, there's plenty of time for them to lose
- 1:03:17Speaker 8: and win and obviously for those streaks to get broken
- 1:03:20Speaker 8: before they ever really matter on the level of what
- 1:03:23Speaker 8: an Undertaker streak was.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: But it is still a thing.
- 1:03:28Speaker 8: And right so far, we haven't had any real needle
- 1:03:31Speaker 8: mover matches announced for WrestleMania. We've got Cody versus I mean,
- 1:03:38Speaker 8: we've got Jay versus Gunter, and that's and Charlotte versus
- 1:03:44Speaker 8: Tiffany one of those are needle movers. Yeah, Bianca versus
- 1:03:50Speaker 8: Rea is the first one that could really be a
- 1:03:53Speaker 8: needle mover because it's the first dream match that would
- 1:03:56Speaker 8: be booked for it. I have a hard time seeing
- 1:04:00Speaker 8: seeing them not wanting to book that match. And then
- 1:04:04Speaker 8: from there now as far as again, the big question
- 1:04:07Speaker 8: is who wins. But you gotta book the match first
- 1:04:10Speaker 8: before you have to worry about that question.
- 1:04:13Speaker 6: It's true, Jane carg thing has to come to a head.
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: It does, it does. That's I think that's why I
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: was thinking.
- 1:04:22Speaker 8: I think it plays some role either in this match
- 1:04:26Speaker 8: or short or immediately after, Like if it doesn't, if
- 1:04:31Speaker 8: it doesn't happen at elimination Chamber Saturday, it's got to
- 1:04:34Speaker 8: happen on the raw immediately after. I think in the discord,
- 1:04:38Speaker 8: I think I pointed out two possible scenarios that could
- 1:04:42Speaker 8: happen with Jade and them. I think one would be
- 1:04:47Speaker 8: dependent on whether who depending on which one would be
- 1:04:51Speaker 8: the heel, whether it's Naomi turning heel as the one
- 1:04:57Speaker 8: who did it, or if Bianca would be the heel
- 1:05:00Speaker 8: as the one who did it, which again, all options
- 1:05:05Speaker 8: are on the table, and that again that depends on
- 1:05:10Speaker 8: if they do it then, but either way, it's got
- 1:05:15Speaker 8: to it has to come to a hand to a
- 1:05:17Speaker 8: head this week.
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if nothing, what the fuck are we doing?
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:05:26Speaker 8: Yeah, And the rumors are already out there that her
- 1:05:29Speaker 8: return is, as we've heard, like imminent. I think one
- 1:05:33Speaker 8: scenario posed was Jade returns in the match, stares them
- 1:05:37Speaker 8: both down, because obviously there's no DQ in the match
- 1:05:40Speaker 8: in elimination Chambers, so she's free to show up and
- 1:05:43Speaker 8: get involved, and maybe she maybe both nailed me and
- 1:05:46Speaker 8: Bianca in the ring, Jade staring them both down, and
- 1:05:49Speaker 8: obviously they had that moment attention. She's looking at both
- 1:05:52Speaker 8: of them, Oh shit, what the fuck this is me?
- 1:05:54Speaker 8: And then Jade lays out and Nail me.
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: And you living there too? Give me the three of
- 1:06:00Speaker 6: them because she's.
- 1:06:01Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe living standing there as well. Just and like
- 1:06:05Speaker 8: I said, and Ja just attacks the one who attacked her.
- 1:06:07Speaker 8: She lays out NAILI. Okay, it turns out Naomi was
- 1:06:10Speaker 8: the one who attacked her. That gets Naomi out the
- 1:06:12Speaker 8: picture and there was Beanca to win. Turns out Naomi
- 1:06:16Speaker 8: was the attacker. Down, Naomi goes heel, which would be
- 1:06:19Speaker 8: interesting for her character because I don't know that we've
- 1:06:21Speaker 8: seen Naomi really as a significant heel on the WWE roster.
- 1:06:26Speaker 8: Other option could be that maybe Jay tries to go
- 1:06:29Speaker 8: after Banca and maybe thinking that Beanca is the you know,
- 1:06:34Speaker 8: implying that Beyonca is the attacker, but maybe Beyonca pulls
- 1:06:37Speaker 8: Naomi in the way or something like that, or j
- 1:06:40Speaker 8: just everybody else in the way, and it avoids the attack,
- 1:06:45Speaker 8: allowing and confirming that Beyonca was the attacker. Now Beyonca's
- 1:06:49Speaker 8: turn heel, and Beanca finishes that match out as a
- 1:06:53Speaker 8: heel and wins, which would obviously kind of imply that, well,
- 1:06:59Speaker 8: now they got to do something with the Bianca Jay
- 1:07:01Speaker 8: thing if that's the case.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: But somehow, you know, they could drag that fuck her out.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: Maybe it was to both of them.
- 1:07:08Speaker 8: Maybe Bianca and Naomi collectively go heal and Bianca and
- 1:07:14Speaker 8: Jade ends up having to go through Naomi at Mania
- 1:07:17Speaker 8: while Bianca's moving on to Rhea, Ria gets the wind
- 1:07:22Speaker 8: and then afterwards they move into the Bianca Jay.
- 1:07:26Speaker 10: What do you think about a triple threat at Mania.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: All three of them versus each other. Yeah, it's an option.
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: I don't know what.
- 1:07:35Speaker 8: It's an option I'm really excited for because that would
- 1:07:38Speaker 8: imply that all three of them have collective beef with
- 1:07:41Speaker 8: each other, which would be it'd be so interesting storytelling
- 1:07:46Speaker 8: to try to make all three of them have beef
- 1:07:48Speaker 8: with each other.
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: Well, you would also find a little bit of Jade's
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: greenness having her in there with two others at wrestle Mania.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: Who would protect Jade a little bit? I mean, I
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: know she's not as great as she once was, but
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: it's Mania.
- 1:08:02Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm at some point jay Z either got
- 1:08:05Speaker 8: ship to get off the pot as a singles competitor,
- 1:08:07Speaker 8: like they can't.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: They can't.
- 1:08:10Speaker 8: They can't hide her for so long, So something's got
- 1:08:14Speaker 8: to give if she is there, especially with this type
- 1:08:16Speaker 8: of storyline. This storyline is kind of built for her
- 1:08:21Speaker 8: getting her revenge on somebody as tailor made for a
- 1:08:26Speaker 8: one on one match, which if you're gonna have her
- 1:08:29Speaker 8: in a one on one fewd with somebody and you
- 1:08:31Speaker 8: are still, you know, as you say, trying to protect
- 1:08:34Speaker 8: her or save her, you want her in there with
- 1:08:36Speaker 8: somebody experience who can really help carry her through a
- 1:08:39Speaker 8: match if that's still needed, and Naomi is a prime
- 1:08:44Speaker 8: person to do that.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: All right, guys, let's move on to the main event.
- 1:08:54Speaker 5: We got John Cena, seem Punk McIntyre, Logan Paul, Damon Priest,
- 1:09:05Speaker 5: and Seth Freaking Rollins w W Championship Match at WrestleMania.
- 1:09:14Speaker 5: I'm pretty fucking psyched for this man. This is a
- 1:09:17Speaker 5: stacked fucking card here. Uh you know, I I thought
- 1:09:25Speaker 5: I at one point I much rather have had Ray
- 1:09:29Speaker 5: of Stereo than Logan Paul. But I feel like Logan
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: Paul is gonna take an ass beating in this fucking
- 1:09:35Speaker 5: I think he might take the worst of it in this.
- 1:09:38Speaker 9: As he should as he should, right, and it jumps
- 1:09:43Speaker 9: off the top of the cage or something to.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just there for the athletics ship exactly, and this.
- 1:09:49Speaker 10: Is just for a match at WrestleMania.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: This is now.
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: Nothing other than just paying right, because we're not sure
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: what direction do you think that whoever cod he's going
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: to be wrestling, he's going to be winning this match
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: because we already know what Jane Gunter doing, right, So I'm.
- 1:10:06Speaker 5: Gonna tell you right now. I believe you know that
- 1:10:11Speaker 5: Logan Paul and I have this feeling man that Logan
- 1:10:15Speaker 5: Paul and seeing Punk are gonna beef all the way
- 1:10:16Speaker 5: to Mania. Why.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: It's just every week these two are just somehow interacting
- 1:10:23Speaker 5: with each other since the Rumble, and you know, Logan
- 1:10:26Speaker 5: eliminated Punk.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: I don't.
- 1:10:31Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I don't see Punk getting this w and getting
- 1:10:34Speaker 5: his main event. As much as I fucking want it,
- 1:10:38Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna happen. I I don't know
- 1:10:43Speaker 5: what we're doing with Seth Rolind still. I don't know
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: also what we're doing with Drew McIntyre yet, Nor do I.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Know because wrestle is not a WrestleMania with probably all
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: of these guys being involved in some way or another.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost all the top guys.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: I just don't know are these are? Are we going Drew,
- 1:11:04Speaker 5: Drew and Seth again? Uh? Like uh, but I don't
- 1:11:09Speaker 5: know what directions some of these guys are going after
- 1:11:11Speaker 5: after this pay per view, because I honestly believe this
- 1:11:16Speaker 5: is We're getting Sena, We're getting Seena winning this. Scena's
- 1:11:19Speaker 5: gonna get it, and we're gonna get Seena versus Cody,
- 1:11:23Speaker 5: And I know, and I know that's a fucking stretch.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: Be great.
- 1:11:29Speaker 6: It doesn't make any sense.
- 1:11:31Speaker 10: Someone's gotta turn John seen his well.
- 1:11:34Speaker 9: John, this whole gimmick is, Man, I haven't won a
- 1:11:36Speaker 9: singles match in ten years exactly. Whatever he's gonna come
- 1:11:40Speaker 9: and just all of a sudden, he's the guy that
- 1:11:41Speaker 9: can be Cody and when no one else has been
- 1:11:43Speaker 9: able to.
- 1:11:44Speaker 10: Oh that's right.
- 1:11:46Speaker 9: Yeah, it just doesn't make sense, like half the heel
- 1:11:51Speaker 9: Like yeah, but I think I don't think they're gonna
- 1:11:54Speaker 9: turn him heel. There's no heel even, Like, what would
- 1:11:58Speaker 9: be the point if you're want to turn him heel?
- 1:11:59Speaker 9: You have to turn him here for like three months
- 1:12:01Speaker 9: and then turn him back to retire. You know, like,
- 1:12:03Speaker 9: what the hell's the point? I think at this point
- 1:12:06Speaker 9: you go full on baby face with Sina. I think
- 1:12:08Speaker 9: you have all year two and I think he will
- 1:12:11Speaker 9: get that seventeenth championship.
- 1:12:13Speaker 6: I just don't think it'll be facing Cody at WrestleMania.
- 1:12:17Speaker 10: I really like my care until next Mania?
- 1:12:19Speaker 6: Right?
- 1:12:19Speaker 10: Am I wrong? But that isn't his isn't he stretching
- 1:12:23Speaker 10: this out till next Mania?
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: This is going to the end of the twenty twenty
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: five Yeah, And.
- 1:12:30Speaker 9: I love my idea of him winning the title and
- 1:12:33Speaker 9: his last night in the company at the end of
- 1:12:35Speaker 9: at the end of December in Boston, and then retires
- 1:12:39Speaker 9: as champion and then you can get a hole for
- 1:12:41Speaker 9: the for the belt or whatever. But they have all
- 1:12:45Speaker 9: you have all year to get into John Cena involved
- 1:12:47Speaker 9: in the title scene, I don't think he.
- 1:12:49Speaker 10: Is trying to do it.
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:12:52Speaker 8: I'm kind of in agreement with you, Doyle that most
- 1:12:55Speaker 8: of this year is going to be about.
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: Cita's quest to finally get that seventeenth title. Even though
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: you could argue that.
- 1:13:04Speaker 8: The promo that he cut after the rumble was a
- 1:13:07Speaker 8: little was kind of teetering on heelish a bit with
- 1:13:12Speaker 8: the kind of aggression that he had about being in
- 1:13:15Speaker 8: the match, saying that you know, he should be in
- 1:13:17Speaker 8: it and because it's best, what's best for business.
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: And this that.
- 1:13:21Speaker 8: Yeah, a little bit of that little bit of arrogance
- 1:13:23Speaker 8: and stuff kind of teetered bit on helish. But I
- 1:13:25Speaker 8: don't think that it was enough to say that Sene
- 1:13:28Speaker 8: is gonna turn heel just to become champion and try
- 1:13:32Speaker 8: to do that throughout the year and then make some
- 1:13:34Speaker 8: sort of face turn at the end.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: I don't see that either.
- 1:13:38Speaker 9: You're absolutely right, But the one caveat I would say
- 1:13:42Speaker 9: is that and we maybe we can roll in the
- 1:13:47Speaker 9: Cody Rock stuff.
- 1:13:48Speaker 6: Into this or if you want to discuss it separate.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:13:51Speaker 6: But if if Cody doesn't tell us, does Rock still
- 1:13:54Speaker 6: get a champion?
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: And who isn't uh?
- 1:13:58Speaker 6: And I could see it being John Cen John c
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: It would be on my list of suspects, but I
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: don't think it would be I have another would be suspect.
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. I don't know if that would be wild,
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: How if that would work?
- 1:14:09Speaker 8: Because corporate heel John Cena, right, corporate like this is
- 1:14:13Speaker 8: like in his last year he sells out to the Rock.
- 1:14:18Speaker 10: Like, yeah, that's that's dark.
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: And you know I I I'm saying Logan Paul is
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: going to win this with a pin over the biggest
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: dog in the match. It's gonna be John Cena that
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: he pins with, which'll set up a future match and
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: Logan Paul will be the Rocks champion, but he won't
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: get it. And they build it toward PRESSELMANI with Logan Paul.
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: Because Logan Paul bring the eyes to the screen. Everyone
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: is gonna walkt him.
- 1:14:51Speaker 8: Come on, don't except for one. Except for one. We've
- 1:14:54Speaker 8: already gotten Cody versus Logan Paul. They did that at
- 1:14:57Speaker 8: Crown Jewel. Nobody gave a ship about that match, and
- 1:15:00Speaker 8: then I doubt anybody's gonna give a shit about a
- 1:15:03Speaker 8: part two at WrestleMania.
- 1:15:05Speaker 5: Yea, all these.
- 1:15:07Speaker 9: It's the biggest match in WrestleMania, you know, Like, you
- 1:15:10Speaker 9: don't put a guy that's had twelve matches.
- 1:15:12Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and this is the main those twelve have been. Yeah,
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: let's not forget about that.
- 1:15:18Speaker 8: Like what this match is, this is we're talking about
- 1:15:20Speaker 8: the main event of wrestlem media. Yeah, this is going
- 1:15:23Speaker 8: to be the final match all night too. They is
- 1:15:26Speaker 8: not about to build WrestleMania main event Las Vegas.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: Logan Paul versus Cody Rose.
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think so.
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: It's gonna be in Vegas. What's more showy than some
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: asshole that fucking freak.
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: What's more showy a bigger name in wrestling?
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: I know, but look at all the times main events
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: were mister t it was. They were all these freaking
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: fluff matches just so Vince got the views.
- 1:15:58Speaker 10: I don't know. I'm not saying it's it's going to
- 1:16:00Speaker 10: be concrete, but you know what, I'm gonna go. That's
- 1:16:03Speaker 10: my that's my selection.
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: You can all beat me up after the elimination chamber
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: and I will take a beating, beat.
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: You up after beating you up. Now fu.
- 1:16:16Speaker 6: Saturday.
- 1:16:17Speaker 10: Just like he said to Tyson, I'll kill you, remember.
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: When he was right? I just don't. I just don't
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: see it.
- 1:16:26Speaker 8: Like I said, we've lamented about they don't have anything
- 1:16:28Speaker 8: that moves the needle yet, and you got all these
- 1:16:31Speaker 8: names in it, and you picked the guy that's probably
- 1:16:33Speaker 8: the least likely to move the needle. Because the best
- 1:16:38Speaker 8: thing about Logan Paul right now is how unliked he is.
- 1:16:42Speaker 8: It's not any and he doesn't have that unlikedable factor
- 1:16:47Speaker 8: of the way a triple H did or a heel
- 1:16:51Speaker 8: Seth Ronalds did, where you want to see them get
- 1:16:54Speaker 8: their ass kicked and just lose a match. Logan Paul
- 1:16:57Speaker 8: has the unlikable factor of no, people just don't fucking
- 1:17:01Speaker 8: like him. Like he's the only guy in the w
- 1:17:05Speaker 8: w E that is legitimately banned from multiple countries.
- 1:17:13Speaker 6: To Canada.
- 1:17:14Speaker 8: Anything but yeah, le galleys, but not because of no,
- 1:17:18Speaker 8: fuck you don't bring your sorry ass in our country.
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: We don't like you.
- 1:17:22Speaker 6: There's this show, well all.
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: This one in Canada. Oh yeah, because right, But that's
- 1:17:32Speaker 2: because of legal issues.
- 1:17:33Speaker 8: It is not because the Canada is like fuck those guys,
- 1:17:35Speaker 8: we don't like them, and is legitimately like no, fuck
- 1:17:40Speaker 8: Logan Paul, and Egypt is legitimately like fuck Logan Paul.
- 1:17:45Speaker 8: That's heat, baby, that's heat. That's damn near freaking Uh.
- 1:17:55Speaker 8: How about saying goddamn diplomatic crisis.
- 1:17:59Speaker 10: Yes, there's a lot of those two.
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: Like I said, he's a heel, but he ain't that
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: type of hill. He ain't you know. Top of the
- 1:18:06Speaker 2: heel in the country, I mean.
- 1:18:08Speaker 10: Comes from the Rock.
- 1:18:10Speaker 8: M what if he's attached to Rock, Yes, that would
- 1:18:15Speaker 8: amplify his heel status depends on how the Rock wants to.
- 1:18:19Speaker 2: Act the Rocks and his bipolar faces where.
- 1:18:23Speaker 8: One moment he's given babyface shit, in the next moment
- 1:18:25Speaker 8: he's acting like a dick.
- 1:18:27Speaker 10: He wants motherfucking souls, Dude, he's going.
- 1:18:32Speaker 8: If anything, Logan Paul siding with the Rock would solidify
- 1:18:35Speaker 8: the Rock as the heel more so than Rock from
- 1:18:39Speaker 8: being able to try to do baby face shit, just
- 1:18:41Speaker 8: because Logan's that damn unlikable. Yeah, like I said, but
- 1:18:47Speaker 8: I mean, I honestly don't know who to pick in
- 1:18:50Speaker 8: this match, because, yeah, the money would probably point you
- 1:18:54Speaker 8: towards Sena winning and going with Cody versus Sena at Mendia.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: That seems to be where the money option would be.
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: But I'm also.
- 1:19:03Speaker 8: In agreement with Doyle that I don't see it happening yet,
- 1:19:07Speaker 8: and I don't know if Sceena is gonna get more
- 1:19:09Speaker 8: than one title opportunity and at UH this year unless
- 1:19:15Speaker 8: it comes in the form of some sort of multi
- 1:19:17Speaker 8: man match like a triple threat or fatal four way.
- 1:19:20Speaker 8: Other than that, I think he's gonna at one point
- 1:19:23Speaker 8: this year he's actually gonna finally get his title shot.
- 1:19:26Speaker 2: And when he does it, he's gonna win it. It's
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: just a matter when they decide to do that.
- 1:19:31Speaker 8: And I don't think they're gonna be something like that,
- 1:19:34Speaker 8: right And I don't think they're gonna do it at
- 1:19:36Speaker 8: WrestleMania one. I don't remember what the number was is,
- 1:19:41Speaker 8: but I know they said there's a number on how many,
- 1:19:43Speaker 8: like a definitive number on how many dates uh Scena
- 1:19:48Speaker 8: has that he's gonna make this year. And every week
- 1:19:51Speaker 8: that goes by that he doesn't appear, make an appearance,
- 1:19:57Speaker 8: that consolidates that thing. It crams that into a smaller window,
- 1:20:04Speaker 8: which means more likely him having multiple appearances and consecutive
- 1:20:08Speaker 8: weeks and this, that and the third. So if you
- 1:20:12Speaker 8: want to get the most out of this, then.
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: He when he.
- 1:20:17Speaker 8: Becomes champion, he can't just be I'm champion and dipping
- 1:20:20Speaker 8: out for a month to go do some more Hollywood shit.
- 1:20:23Speaker 8: It's gonna be it's gotta be a legitimate run. And
- 1:20:25Speaker 8: I think that's what Sena is gonna want to do
- 1:20:27Speaker 8: this year, is give a legitimate run where I you know,
- 1:20:32Speaker 8: I'm in I'm chasing that title, I win it, I'm
- 1:20:34Speaker 8: defending it. I'm all morale, and you're getting me for
- 1:20:37Speaker 8: consecutive weeks or you know, like every week for maybe
- 1:20:41Speaker 8: two or three months. Yeah, yeah, you know, if everything's right,
- 1:20:49Speaker 8: like right, and you're talking about like I know, the
- 1:20:51Speaker 8: number is somewhere like in the thirties. I think as
- 1:20:53Speaker 8: far as appearances, if he just did smack Down every
- 1:20:58Speaker 8: week for you know, three months, that's twelve appearances. Twelve
- 1:21:05Speaker 8: thirteen appearances makes in a couple of raws and a
- 1:21:07Speaker 8: pl in there, then you get up to fourteen or fifteen.
- 1:21:09Speaker 8: So that to me gives credence to the fact that
- 1:21:15Speaker 8: scene is not gonna win it at Mania. It'll come
- 1:21:18Speaker 8: some point later. I think I'm gonna go with Punk.
- 1:21:25Speaker 8: I think I'm gonna go with this and yeah, and
- 1:21:29Speaker 8: we get Punk versus Cody at Mania. I know this
- 1:21:35Speaker 8: storyline isn't there, but if two people ain't much of
- 1:21:39Speaker 8: a storyline there, there is a little bit there. But
- 1:21:42Speaker 8: if two people could ever build it up and make
- 1:21:44Speaker 8: it into something that those who can do it, especially
- 1:21:50Speaker 8: if you're gonna still have that dangling carrot out there
- 1:21:54Speaker 8: of the Rock and Cody and his soul and if
- 1:21:59Speaker 8: you need somebody for Cody to make the heel turn,
- 1:22:02Speaker 8: if that works happen against Phil could be the foil
- 1:22:06Speaker 8: to that, given it he is still pretty popular. Granted,
- 1:22:10Speaker 8: that does leave other guys like Drew and Seth and
- 1:22:13Speaker 8: them just kind of hanging out there and the wins,
- 1:22:17Speaker 8: which is kind of wild, but that I think my
- 1:22:21Speaker 8: pick is Punk.
- 1:22:24Speaker 10: It's a good pick.
- 1:22:25Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna pick Punk also, and I also don't
- 1:22:29Speaker 9: really feel great about it. But like, I think whoever
- 1:22:35Speaker 9: wins this match is gonna end because I think Cody
- 1:22:37Speaker 9: is going to say no to the Rock and I think,
- 1:22:42Speaker 9: but I don't think that the Rock will still get
- 1:22:44Speaker 9: his champion, and I think it will be whoever wins
- 1:22:46Speaker 9: this match, and I think they can turn Phil. He'll
- 1:22:50Speaker 9: he'll really a little bit Phil heel real easy, especially
- 1:22:55Speaker 9: if he comes out in a suit and you know,
- 1:22:58Speaker 9: have him all clean cut. He does a reverse pipe
- 1:23:01Speaker 9: bomb where he talks about how great in a company
- 1:23:04Speaker 9: man is and like, yeah, I'm doing you know, this
- 1:23:08Speaker 9: is all about the money. To me, I don't give
- 1:23:10Speaker 9: a shit about you, you know, Like that's all I
- 1:23:12Speaker 9: ever cared about.
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: He said that when he came back the first night,
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make money,
- 1:23:18Speaker 2: exactly right, he's yeah, you can even say that.
- 1:23:20Speaker 9: I told you the first night I was back. I
- 1:23:22Speaker 9: wasn't here to make friends. I was here to make money.
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: Uh So, yeah, And I think I think it'll and
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: and But that's still the only the only foil to
- 1:23:32Speaker 6: my plan is the favor. It's still out there.
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: What is the favor?
- 1:23:37Speaker 9: Is the favor of Paul Hayman, a company sent at WrestleMania. Maybe,
- 1:23:41Speaker 9: but Hayman's a face right now? Does that mean Hayman
- 1:23:44Speaker 9: also has to turn heel? I can't work out where
- 1:23:48Speaker 9: the favor maybe.
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:23:51Speaker 6: I can't quite work out how the favor comes into play.
- 1:23:54Speaker 9: But I would love to see a heel turn for
- 1:23:57Speaker 9: Punk who wins his match and becomes corporate, fucking corporate Punk.
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: Though that goes against every grain of his awesome When
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: would bark at that, saying.
- 1:24:11Speaker 8: Well, like, I think, like what Dole said, I think
- 1:24:15Speaker 8: that's part of what would make it so awesome. In
- 1:24:18Speaker 8: regards to the favor you were talking about, I think
- 1:24:20Speaker 8: kinda we're we're we're all being a little bit short
- 1:24:24Speaker 8: sighted with in terms of the favor is. I think
- 1:24:26Speaker 8: we're kind of all narrowing it, being a little narrow
- 1:24:29Speaker 8: minded and thinking that Punk in the favor somehow has
- 1:24:33Speaker 8: to involve Roman Reigns because Paul Hayman is so tied
- 1:24:37Speaker 8: to Roman.
- 1:24:38Speaker 10: Can can you bring to speed on this favor you
- 1:24:40Speaker 10: guys are talking about?
- 1:24:41Speaker 8: Okay, So Summer Survivor series war Games was obviously old
- 1:24:49Speaker 8: og blood line versus New blood line two point zero bloodline.
- 1:24:54Speaker 8: Guys could not get a fifth member for the team.
- 1:24:57Speaker 8: It was just Roman USO's and Sammy versus Dick to everybody, right,
- 1:25:01Speaker 8: and everybody was like, fuck you, Roman, I'm not helping
- 1:25:03Speaker 8: you out. Who comes to the rescue at the last
- 1:25:05Speaker 8: minute to be the fifth guy Paul Hayman bringing in
- 1:25:09Speaker 8: see him Punk to help out the team. And he
- 1:25:13Speaker 8: did it because he did it as a favor to
- 1:25:15Speaker 8: Paul Hayman, and Paul said, I will owe you a
- 1:25:18Speaker 8: favor if you help out my trivel chief Roman Reigns.
- 1:25:22Speaker 2: So the favor is on.
- 1:25:25Speaker 8: Paul Hayman not necessarily has anything to do with Roman Reigns.
- 1:25:30Speaker 8: It's Paul Hayman who owes him a favor, so just
- 1:25:36Speaker 8: kind of, you know, spitballing. The favor could be that
- 1:25:41Speaker 8: Paul Hayman makes the call to the Rock Final Boss
- 1:25:48Speaker 8: and gets the Rock to choose Punk as his guy
- 1:25:55Speaker 8: in the face of Cody rejecting him.
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: That could theorectly be the favor.
- 1:26:01Speaker 8: That Punk calls in, rather than Punk having to offer
- 1:26:05Speaker 8: himself up and saying like, hey, Rock up here, pick me,
- 1:26:08Speaker 8: pick me. Yeah, you could be like Paul, get me
- 1:26:11Speaker 8: in touch with the Rock. That's my favor, or get
- 1:26:15Speaker 8: the Rock to choose me as his corporate guy. Since
- 1:26:19Speaker 8: Cody doesn't want it, I'll take it.
- 1:26:21Speaker 1: And then Punk could even swerve at the last minute
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: after he gets that belt. He could swerve and then
- 1:26:26Speaker 1: be everyone's fucking hero.
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope, nope, No, you think he's gonna be
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: all in for a while. If he do it, he
- 1:26:33Speaker 2: got to be all in.
- 1:26:34Speaker 5: I agree with Rod. It's against everything he believes in.
- 1:26:39Speaker 5: I mean, like he does like the Rock.
- 1:26:42Speaker 8: Yeah, and Hollywood was against everything that whole comania believed
- 1:26:45Speaker 8: in until he dropped a fucking leg on Rady Savage
- 1:26:47Speaker 8: right exactly.
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: Well, you know, if Punk does make this swerve, he
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: can blame it on Hayman, just say your fault for
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: trusting me in the very beginning. Maybe then Punk stays
- 1:26:58Speaker 1: face and he's just being this superhel to get whatever
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: he wants.
- 1:27:02Speaker 8: Some of the greatest some of the greatest heel runs
- 1:27:04Speaker 8: have come from the people who were the biggest babyfaces
- 1:27:08Speaker 8: or perceived to be the biggest heroes of the people.
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: And when they're the ones that say fuck.
- 1:27:16Speaker 6: You is great, heels make great baby faces and vice.
- 1:27:21Speaker 2: Versa exactly, And I can see it.
- 1:27:24Speaker 8: And and since they're kind of especially if Cody is
- 1:27:28Speaker 8: the champion right now, they're kind of running thin on
- 1:27:31Speaker 8: heels for him to go against, especially top tier heels,
- 1:27:34Speaker 8: that can really be a problem for him. So either
- 1:27:38Speaker 8: they need to build up some more heels for him
- 1:27:40Speaker 8: to face or he needs to drop that title and
- 1:27:43Speaker 8: get back into the chase to regain it. And Punk,
- 1:27:47Speaker 8: seeing Punk, would be a perfect guy to do that, especially.
- 1:27:50Speaker 9: If needs to heal too, Like I don't I just
- 1:27:52Speaker 9: the babyface versus babyface thing with him and seeing it
- 1:27:55Speaker 9: just doesn't make sense.
- 1:27:56Speaker 8: Yeah, especially if they're not pulling the trigger on the
- 1:27:59Speaker 8: long rumored Cody Randy Orton feud anytime soon, since Randy's
- 1:28:05Speaker 8: seemingly going to be preoccupied with at least with Kevin
- 1:28:07Speaker 8: Olans upon his return.
- 1:28:10Speaker 2: So they still got that somewhere off in the distance.
- 1:28:13Speaker 2: Cody needs somebody to fight.
- 1:28:16Speaker 9: Do you think there's a chance Rock puts himself in
- 1:28:18Speaker 9: the chamber and makes him the seventh entrench or something
- 1:28:21Speaker 9: that guy I pitched him as the thirty first sent.
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: In the Royal Run, which still would have been dope. Yes,
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: he could he.
- 1:28:31Speaker 6: Insert himself and him take the match with.
- 1:28:34Speaker 8: Cody if I don't think so, just from the standpoint
- 1:28:40Speaker 8: that he seems like he wants to be the guy
- 1:28:44Speaker 8: controlling the guy I'm not going to be.
- 1:28:47Speaker 9: Rock isn't wrestling in WrestleMania until the nine to press
- 1:28:50Speaker 9: conference starts.
- 1:28:52Speaker 8: Yes, I'm implying to believe that it's we're not going
- 1:28:57Speaker 8: to get it this year, at least not him wrestling
- 1:28:59Speaker 8: thattual match. Some physicality sure on the table, maybe, and
- 1:29:04Speaker 8: could see that, especially if we get Punk versus Uh Cody,
- 1:29:07Speaker 8: and Punk is the Rocks guy.
- 1:29:10Speaker 10: I can see the Rocket he makes himself a special
- 1:29:12Speaker 10: guest referee or something.
- 1:29:14Speaker 8: Maybe not a special guest referee, but I can see
- 1:29:16Speaker 8: him just showing up and doing almost like the Boss,
- 1:29:20Speaker 8: a true Final Boss thing, like you know, forcing the
- 1:29:22Speaker 8: ref to do this or that, like like the way
- 1:29:25Speaker 8: he did last year, and you know, like you know
- 1:29:28Speaker 8: when they were fighting on the outside and he looked
- 1:29:30Speaker 8: back at the refs like like, don't you dare fucking
- 1:29:32Speaker 8: count out. I'll fire you on the fucking spot or
- 1:29:34Speaker 8: whatever he says, Yeah, yeah, I can see him showing
- 1:29:39Speaker 8: up in the match and it was something like that,
- 1:29:40Speaker 8: you know, like he just walks in the match and
- 1:29:42Speaker 8: the referees like what you doing? Like the funk out
- 1:29:44Speaker 8: the way bitch On the Final Boss he just drops
- 1:29:46Speaker 8: fucking Cody and it orders Punk to pin him or
- 1:29:49Speaker 8: something like that and orders the referee to count and
- 1:29:52Speaker 8: just full on Final Boss heel, and then the Summer
- 1:29:59Speaker 8: of Punk or the Dark Summer of Punk.
- 1:30:03Speaker 6: Would be awesome.
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely easy to take Damian Priest out
- 1:30:07Speaker 1: of the and I mean, obviously I I kind of
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: feel like Seth is gonna maybe go against Roman. They
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: may have that for Seth.
- 1:30:17Speaker 8: Oh yeah, almost certainly, because clearly Roman is gonna be
- 1:30:21Speaker 8: at media and it'll probably be that they'll probably be
- 1:30:25Speaker 8: a triple threat match.
- 1:30:26Speaker 2: It would probably be like Roman versus Seth versus Drew.
- 1:30:29Speaker 10: I like that that would.
- 1:30:32Speaker 1: It would be great if they were able to obtain
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: Dean Ambrose from a W for one Killer payoff triple
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: threat shield match.
- 1:30:42Speaker 10: Doubt that will.
- 1:30:42Speaker 8: Happen, But no, ain't the way to hell Tony Kahan
- 1:30:48Speaker 8: helping them for Russell Madia of all events, I know, yeah, I.
- 1:30:53Speaker 5: Mean yeah, well, you guys got anything else you want
- 1:30:57Speaker 5: to add to this match?
- 1:31:00Speaker 8: This match itself, no, not really. Like I said, it's
- 1:31:06Speaker 8: kind of up in the it's still up in the air.
- 1:31:08Speaker 8: Still the most wide open, you know, match that we've
- 1:31:12Speaker 8: seen in quite some time. I think there's hardly any
- 1:31:16Speaker 8: wrong answers in this match as far as who could
- 1:31:18Speaker 8: win other than Logan Paul, But other than that, I
- 1:31:22Speaker 8: think anybody. But it's wide open. It's definitely wide open.
- 1:31:28Speaker 8: Like I said, the intrigue in this win. As far
- 1:31:29Speaker 8: as who's gonna actually win, we'll have everybody on the
- 1:31:32Speaker 8: edge of their seat.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: Do you guys think there's any chance that? I mean,
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: I know Uso is a huge babyface, but do you
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: think there's any chance of him being Rocks Champion?
- 1:31:45Speaker 10: I mean, he's got the.
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: Bloodline thing going on. He's blood I mean, he's such
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: a hot babyface.
- 1:31:53Speaker 8: That's the that's the argument right there against it, the
- 1:31:56Speaker 8: fact that he's so over. Are they really willing to
- 1:31:59Speaker 8: throw away all the yeats with this? Throw away all
- 1:32:03Speaker 8: the merch that he's selling right now for this, Like
- 1:32:06Speaker 8: you can't even flip it to no yeat if he
- 1:32:08Speaker 8: turns heel, because Jimmy's got that, and Jimmy's turning No
- 1:32:11Speaker 8: Yeat into a babyface thing, it's working for him.
- 1:32:15Speaker 10: I know that's interesting, isn't it.
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:32:18Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that like that would be.
- 1:32:22Speaker 8: I mean, maybe somewhere down the line, if you know,
- 1:32:25Speaker 8: Jimmy starts to get some real momentum as a baby
- 1:32:28Speaker 8: face and Jay gets maybe the yeat starts to cool
- 1:32:32Speaker 8: off a little bit bit. Maybe they revisit Jamie versus Jay,
- 1:32:37Speaker 8: and Jimmy's the baby face and Jay is the heel.
- 1:32:40Speaker 8: Maybe they revisited at some point down the line there
- 1:32:43Speaker 8: if especially if Jay were to be a heel champion.
- 1:32:47Speaker 8: Maybe if if say, for example, he has a longer
- 1:32:51Speaker 8: run than we think he might get, because I think
- 1:32:54Speaker 8: most of us kind of think he's well, I won't.
- 1:32:57Speaker 2: I won't speak for anybody else. I think Jay's gonna
- 1:32:59Speaker 2: win a Russell.
- 1:33:00Speaker 8: How long a title rain turns out to be afterwards tbd,
- 1:33:03Speaker 8: But suppose he gets a long rain that trans and
- 1:33:07Speaker 8: and that's how the rain he transitions from babyface to
- 1:33:10Speaker 8: a heel.
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: Maybe the Rock exerts more of his power.
- 1:33:14Speaker 8: Maybe at some point, depending on how far they want
- 1:33:17Speaker 8: to go with a Rock final boss corporate dictator storyline,
- 1:33:22Speaker 8: there could be some space down the line where the
- 1:33:26Speaker 8: Rock has control of both champions. He has seeing Punk
- 1:33:30Speaker 8: as the world WWE champion, his corporate champion and Jay
- 1:33:34Speaker 8: as his corporate World heavyweight champion. Uh huh, that's a possibility.
- 1:33:39Speaker 8: And then you got to bring some people up to
- 1:33:41Speaker 8: d thrown them. Maybe Jimmy is the one that has
- 1:33:43Speaker 8: to come up and stop his brother, and somebody else
- 1:33:47Speaker 8: has to rise up to stop Punk. I mean, it's
- 1:33:50Speaker 8: a it's up there on the drawing board. It's up
- 1:33:53Speaker 8: there on the big poster board of possibilities.
- 1:33:56Speaker 10: Gentlemen, Can I give one more scenario before we move on?
- 1:33:59Speaker 2: What's that? What if?
- 1:34:02Speaker 10: What if we have all this hype behind Jay.
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: And you have the Rock being a master heel remember
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: how he tried to swerve WrestleMania last year and then
- 1:34:14Speaker 1: the fans fought back. What if Roman becomes his champion
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: and then USO is attacked, taking him out of the spot,
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: and then Roman takes the title from Gunter being the
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: Rocks Champion and Jay has to climb that mountain and whoops.
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: Roman reigns to become the ultimate babyface champion, maybe at
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: the next pay per view.
- 1:34:40Speaker 8: The only problem with that is one, I don't see
- 1:34:43Speaker 8: them putting the title back on Roman just to be
- 1:34:45Speaker 8: a transitional, short term champion.
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: Two.
- 1:34:50Speaker 8: I don't see Roman, after finally getting the Ula falla
- 1:34:53Speaker 8: back and reaffirming himself as tribal chief, then acquiescing to
- 1:34:58Speaker 8: someone else, even if it's The Rock as final boss,
- 1:35:02Speaker 8: especially after when they were together last year and The
- 1:35:06Speaker 8: Rock tried to cut a promo. Roman literally cut him
- 1:35:09Speaker 8: off and said acknowledge me, and the Rock did that.
- 1:35:14Speaker 8: I don't see them flipping that and all of a sudden,
- 1:35:16Speaker 8: now the rope now Roman standing on his own, becomes
- 1:35:21Speaker 8: a more quote unquote yes man to the Rock.
- 1:35:25Speaker 9: Yeah, they just spent the last decade trying to get
- 1:35:27Speaker 9: Roman over as a baby face, and they finally did it.
- 1:35:31Speaker 2: They immediately throw him back into the old waters. But
- 1:35:36Speaker 2: they like.
- 1:35:40Speaker 5: Some whird has happened. Yeah, all right, cool guys. Cool
- 1:35:45Speaker 5: with that said, let's wrap up this fucking episode. Uh, dre,
- 1:35:50Speaker 5: do you have anything you want to plug?
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: Nothing at this point in time.
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- 1:36:05Speaker 2: What do you got?
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- 1:36:11Speaker 5: Cool, Ron, What do you want to plug? Man?
- 1:36:15Speaker 10: You know I plugged last episode, so I'm gonna be
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- 1:36:22Speaker 5: All right? And uh yeah, we got a Twitter page,
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- 1:36:37Speaker 2: Come on.
- 1:36:38Speaker 10: All right, guys, Thank you so much for having me.
- 1:36:42Speaker 2: Guys, it was nice chatting with you, oh man, Yeah, man,
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: great having you on. Great discussions.
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