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Cardinals catcher Iván Herrera and starting pitcher Andre Pallante join Cardinal Territory · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Hayes with you. Lance Lynn is on the beach
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  Speaker 1: in Florida, and Kyle Gibson is somewhere doing dad things.
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  Speaker 1: But that's okay, because we have a great guest today.
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  Speaker 1: He's a really good ball player and a really good guy.
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  Speaker 1: Cardinal fans know him. It's Yvonne Herrera. Yvonne, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: coming on. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 3: Pleasure being here talking to you about baseball. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I was honored to talk with you, Kat.
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  Speaker 1: Always good, except we are a little ticked off with
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  Speaker 1: Lance and Kyle. But that's for another show. All right, Yvonne,
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about the season that was. You
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  Speaker 1: guys finished the season 77-85. Most of the season you
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  Speaker 1: guys played really good baseball. Exceeded, I think, what a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people expected from a team that's in a rebuild.
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  Speaker 1: How do you assess the season?
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  Speaker 2: I think... It went really good.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's definitely some guys that step forward on
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  Speaker 3: the right direction. And, you know, we play a really
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  Speaker 3: good baseball. We were close to the playoff race. And
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  Speaker 3: I think and for the future, I think we're going
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  Speaker 3: to do a great thing. So all the guys doing
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  Speaker 3: their thing, working really hard to, you know, to get
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  Speaker 3: better and help each other to get better. So I
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  Speaker 3: think that's a really cool thing that we got going on.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's going to be really good for
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  Speaker 3: the future.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are really a tight group. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of guys will say, oh, this team is tight. This team,
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  Speaker 1: they all like each other. This is really a tight group.
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  Speaker 1: And tell me if I'm wrong, but it seemed you
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  Speaker 1: guys embrace the fact that, oh, this is a young team.
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  Speaker 1: They're in a rebuild. No one expects anything. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like you guys embrace that and kind of took, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some energy from that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like we didn't have anything to lose, you know.
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  Speaker 2: All we had, we showed everything and played hard.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what we did. I think that's the
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  Speaker 3: cool thing about it. You know, nobody expect anything from us.
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  Speaker 3: And all of a sudden we play in the baseball and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, everybody start paying attention to us. And then
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  Speaker 3: we be really good teams with like high payroll, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like at the end of the day that don't matter.
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  Speaker 3: I think you got to go out there and, you know, perform.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we all capable of playing baseball. So it's
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  Speaker 3: nine against nine out there. I think we did a
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  Speaker 3: good job about that.
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  Speaker 1: So the rebuild, according to Haim, is something that takes time, right?
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  Speaker 1: So they're going to assess how the season went and
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  Speaker 1: then figure out, because Haim's goal, and I think everyone's
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  Speaker 1: on board, wants him to be contenders to win a
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  Speaker 1: World Series every year. So he has to assess where
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  Speaker 1: the team is right now. You're on the team. You're
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  Speaker 1: a big part of it. I want to ask you,
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  Speaker 1: in your opinion, how far away are you guys now
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  Speaker 1: from being a team that can't compete to win a
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  Speaker 1: World Series?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good question. You know, it just
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  Speaker 2: doesn't take me.
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  Speaker 3: It takes all of the team commitment, you know, to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, all the things that we talk about in
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  Speaker 3: sprint training, all the things that, you know, when you
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  Speaker 3: hear from other teams, it's just like staying together and
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  Speaker 3: play 160.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, that's a hard part. And, you know, we.
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  Speaker 3: Got great talent in minor leagues, and I think I'd
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  Speaker 3: say maybe Two years, three years, I think.
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  Speaker 2: We got a good chance to be in the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, I feel like we need to keep going,
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  Speaker 3: you know, definitely going the right direction. And I think
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  Speaker 3: we're going to be really doing very soon.
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  Speaker 1: 717 this past season than you had before. I know
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  Speaker 1: past seasons you had some injuries to deal with. But
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  Speaker 1: toward the end of the season, was there like a
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  Speaker 1: wear down? Do you feel kind of beat up at
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  Speaker 1: the end of a season like that or no? No, man.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I felt great mostly all season. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember how many times I'm like, dude, I feel awful.
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  Speaker 2: I feel great.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the things I think with me because at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're going to be tired.
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  Speaker 3: That's all come from playing the game. But at least
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  Speaker 3: I felt that I was able to compete every game,
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  Speaker 3: do the little things. Sometimes I try to play the
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  Speaker 3: big game, but I also like playing the small game too.
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  Speaker 1: You did get hit by pitches an awful lot this
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  Speaker 1: past season. I think with 31, I know you led
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball in that. You didn't take them where
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  Speaker 1: they put you out of the lineup for a week.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think that is? Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: you get hit by so many pitches?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if like people don't like me or something,
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  Speaker 3: but I think just, I think, you know, so when
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  Speaker 3: I hit the inside part of the play, like I
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  Speaker 3: hit the corner good, but I don't know, like I
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  Speaker 3: get jammed in off. So when they go in, they
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  Speaker 3: try to go in off and that's when I get
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  Speaker 3: hit most of the times or like back up spin,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I think, I don't think it's personal, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't think 31 times is as good.
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  Speaker 2: I don't, I hope I don't break that record next year.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten mad though? Cause let's, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 1: Like you're a guy that stays pretty calm and collected.
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  Speaker 1: Has there, cause I'm thinking back, I don't recall a
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  Speaker 1: time where you were glaring at anyone. You kind of
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  Speaker 1: just took your medicine and took your base. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a time where, yeah, I didn't like this one at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd like twice.
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  Speaker 3: There was a guy that hit me twice on a
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  Speaker 3: three-year account.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, Are you doing this on purpose
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  Speaker 2: just so you don't get a walk? So I kind
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  Speaker 2: of got mad. And I won at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the year. I don't remember where, but I kind of
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  Speaker 2: got hit in the ribs.
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  Speaker 3: And I was kind of mad just because I just
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  Speaker 3: feel like it's a situation where.
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  Speaker 2: You need to walk me. And then I get hit.
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  Speaker 3: That's the way I think about it. But basically, three
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  Speaker 3: times out of 31.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about your defense. We just had Andre Palante on,
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  Speaker 1: and he loves throwing to you. And I was asking
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  Speaker 1: him why, and he said, and the words he used,
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  Speaker 1: that you have a quote-unquote magic sauce on figuring out
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  Speaker 1: what the right pitch is to call in certain situations.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you think that comes from?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like this year my preparation behind
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  Speaker 3: the plate was so much better than in terms of
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  Speaker 3: like calling the game, you know, knowing when to pitch
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  Speaker 3: to somebody, how to attack hitters. I think I did
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  Speaker 3: a job thanks to the Cardinals, you know, Ethan, Ethan
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  Speaker 3: Gofford really helped me out this year, you know, get
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  Speaker 3: better in the off season.
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  Speaker 2: He bring energy every day. He was working out with
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  Speaker 2: me and Pogi as well, the defense side. But, you know, I.
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  Speaker 3: Think that's what I need to, I took a step, uh,
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  Speaker 3: forward in that, you know, throwing side, I definitely need
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  Speaker 3: to improve, man. Uh, I'm definitely working to get that
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  Speaker 3: and definitely to throw harder. I think if I figure
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  Speaker 3: that out, I think I'm going to be a very
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  Speaker 3: good catcher. I just need to start throwing a little
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  Speaker 3: harder and a little more accurate. I think it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be a different story.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about base stealers, potential base stealers. You
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  Speaker 1: threw out one guy this year. Now, after the offseason,
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  Speaker 1: the season before, you had cleanup surgery on your elbow.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember you were telling me, you couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: the ball in the proper position to throw. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you think the issues are now? Is it physical
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  Speaker 1: or is it technique? How do you try to fix that?
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  Speaker 3: I think you just actually learn how to throw. Personally,
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  Speaker 3: I never really worked on my arm. I did not
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  Speaker 3: struggle much before the big leagues, so I didn't put
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  Speaker 3: emphasis on that. All my emphasis was on framing, blocking, hitting, running.
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  Speaker 3: But these past two years, you know, that's when you struggle,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you got to find a way to get better.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm trying to do. I think just
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  Speaker 3: basically learning how to throw, you know, like right now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out, you know, hopefully it
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  Speaker 3: can get better.
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  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't, man, you just got to find
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  Speaker 2: a way. So I would say just learning how to
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  Speaker 2: throw is the answer, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: So tell me about where you go to work on that.
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  Speaker 1: I know You can go to different places to specialize
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  Speaker 1: in your pop, as they say. And I recall as
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  Speaker 1: a minor leader, I think we've talked about it before,
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  Speaker 1: like you had to renovate the way you approached your
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  Speaker 1: at-bats at the plate in terms of stance. I know
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  Speaker 1: you sort of renovated your whole defense. Your career, you've
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  Speaker 1: had to work to get to this point. So where
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  Speaker 1: does the work start now in trying to tackle that
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  Speaker 1: issue of throwing guys out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that word start, like, it literally started right now.
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  Speaker 3: I started my program this Monday. I'm going to continue
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  Speaker 3: to work on that. I think it's just, like, you
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  Speaker 3: got to figure it out, man.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it don't matter how you do it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I try to figure it out in every way.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I hit it and I figure out my stance,
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  Speaker 3: you know, how I feel comfortable. I think I got
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  Speaker 3: to find the right way to throw a second.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I feel comfortable. I think it's just... You know,
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  Speaker 2: and it takes a toll mentally, you know, like you
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  Speaker 2: struggle with that. So you put extra pressure.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've been super pressure about it because, you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: that's the only thing I feel like I struggle with.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't I don't really like do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pass balls. I don't really miss a lot
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  Speaker 3: of blocks. So I think, you know, going about it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, since now that we're going to have.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of time to get better, you know, with
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  Speaker 2: the lockdown and everything. I'm going to put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of work on that. And, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it's going to get better for this year.
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  Speaker 1: How much of a mental toll does that take? Because
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  Speaker 1: as a catcher, you've got a million things to think about.
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  Speaker 1: The workday starts early. I know you guys are in
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  Speaker 1: meetings and then you've got other stuff to work on.
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  Speaker 1: Is that in the back of your mind when you
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  Speaker 1: know you're having issues with that one piece of your game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let me put it like this. If
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  Speaker 2: you can't get spin.
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  Speaker 3: It means all the fast of the scene just because
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  Speaker 3: you're looking for it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's the same thing when I'm catching.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I try to focus so much about throwing that
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I forget about, like, the framing a little bit
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  Speaker 3: just because I'm so focused on that because that's basically
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  Speaker 3: the most other thing that I struggle with, you know,
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  Speaker 3: is throwing. So it's just like, like I say, mentally,
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  Speaker 3: you put a little doubt to yourself just for not
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  Speaker 3: being able to do it. And that, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: that pressure adds up, you know, when I'm beating on
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  Speaker 3: the field pressure as much as when I do.
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  Speaker 2: Catch him to throw somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: I would rather like get 20 curve balls in the
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  Speaker 3: delante than, you know, think about throwing, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean? Like, it's just, I put a little extra
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  Speaker 3: pressure on myself when I throw, but Like I said, I.
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  Speaker 2: Just need to work to get better.
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  Speaker 1: So, Yvonne, you guys are stacked with talent at the
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  Speaker 1: catching position, right? You got you, you got Pajes, you
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  Speaker 1: got Bernal, you got Crooks, you got Rodriguez coming up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just curious, with all that talent, you guys are,
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  Speaker 1: the goal is to win for the team, but there's
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  Speaker 1: also competition, too. How do you manage that, knowing all
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  Speaker 1: these guys want to catch, you want to catch because
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  Speaker 1: you love catching? How do you manage that? Because it
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  Speaker 1: seems like you guys are all pulling together, which I
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  Speaker 1: think is a little unusual. How do you manage that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, when you build culture and
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  Speaker 3: you build friendship, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, you want to support all your teammates.
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  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I believe, like,
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  Speaker 3: whoever does the job should earn the opportunities, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I haven't earned a job, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: not lying if I don't cash. When I earn, we
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  Speaker 3: got to look at that. Just support your teammates. We
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  Speaker 3: got great guys like Pat Harris, troops. We all support
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  Speaker 3: each other, don't matter how.
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  Speaker 2: If you need anything, we're going to be there for you.
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  Speaker 3: It's just going at the long run.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not about me. It's not about... Bernal is
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  Speaker 2: not about all the guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's about winning, and it's about caring about your teammates
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  Speaker 3: and pushing everybody to get better. I think it's all
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  Speaker 3: about that, and I don't think there's any negative around
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  Speaker 3: any of us.
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  Speaker 2: We all push to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I've seen it firsthand. You got to admit,
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  Speaker 1: Bernal was impressive since he was called up. When you
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  Speaker 1: look at that young guy, and you forget how young
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  Speaker 1: he is, he did a lot of things the right way.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what impressed Bernal or what impressed you about
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  Speaker 1: what Bernal was able to show he can do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm very impressed with just the ability
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  Speaker 2: to show me to the big leagues and be good
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  Speaker 2: real quick. He puts really good numbers right away.
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  Speaker 3: That thing is hard to do. You see guys that
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  Speaker 3: have great careers in the minor leagues and come to the.
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  Speaker 2: Big leagues and struggle. I think mentally it's hard to just...
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  Speaker 2: And then also... lead the pitch with that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we got veterans, we got young guys.
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  Speaker 3: And he did a really good job with that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: hitting with scoring position. I think he did every single
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  Speaker 3: little thing good. Even the throwing, he throws really hard second,
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  Speaker 3: you know. He did everything good, and I'm very impressed
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  Speaker 3: with the.
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  Speaker 2: Things he did.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you guys had Yachty around a lot this year.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, because I see Yachty working with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I see him in the video room. Tell me what
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  Speaker 1: it's like working with Yachty. What does he tell, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the guys who were trying to get to where he
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  Speaker 1: was as a catcher? What does he share with you?
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  Speaker 2: Man, he definitely shared the secret sauce, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Like, he got all the experience, he got
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  Speaker 2: all the experience, and he cares.
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  Speaker 4: He really cares.
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  Speaker 3: I have so much respect for this guy just because,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I was coming on the minor leagues,
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  Speaker 3: he was every day working with us 7 a.m. early work, like,
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  Speaker 3: He would already have, I don't know, 12 years in
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  Speaker 3: the big leagues, 10 years in the big leagues. And
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  Speaker 3: he was there with us, helping us, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: teaching us details, fundamentals.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's something I.
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  Speaker 3: Respect a lot just because he really cares about the
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  Speaker 3: team and he really cared about who was going to
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  Speaker 3: take his spot or the people coming up. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that deserves so much respect because, you know, most
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  Speaker 3: guys just care about what they're doing, minding their own.
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  Speaker 2: Business, which is fine.
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  Speaker 3: But when you have guys like that, that really care,
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  Speaker 3: that's when you know they have the Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 3: career that they have. And they care about all the
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  Speaker 3: pictures that they had in the past. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that deserves so much respect.
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  Speaker 1: Is there an intimidation factor when you're working with Yachty?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, especially if you haven't worked with him in
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  Speaker 1: the past. I know he's a good dude, but it's Yachty.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, as a young player, you're not intimidated by
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  Speaker 1: having a guy like that around.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the first year I was, the relationship got
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  Speaker 3: better and.
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  Speaker 2: Everything got better.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, I feel like if you're young, you
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  Speaker 3: should ask him questions. He likes, he loves talking about baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's one of the reasons why he plays
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  Speaker 3: so much baseball. And he still wants to be in baseball.
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  Speaker 3: So he loves this sport. He enjoys helping out everybody.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's, you know, it's cool to have
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  Speaker 3: him around.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you this because I think I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: asked you about it maybe once or twice during the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: regular season. But you're a guy who's an athlete, right?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You see some catchers, maybe they're not as athletic as
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: other guys. So based on the fact that there's so
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: many catchers and you want to catch, so I'm stipulating
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you love being behind the plate. I'll ask you about
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that in a minute. But you could play outfield. You
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: could play first base. Has anyone talked to you about
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: maybe starting to do some of that stuff just in
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: case they need flexibility or you're catching?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody has talked to me about anything.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: You know, I see myself as a catcher just because,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: like I say, all I show is throwing. So if
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I can get that good, you know, I feel like
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I can be really good. You know, I can be
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: really good offensively as a catcher. I can be really
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: good defensively as a catcher. All the things I've shown
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: is that. You know, like I said, I'm working towards it.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, if things don't
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: work out, you know, you got to find a way
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: to just stick in the big leagues, no matter how.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Saying I can't play under a position, but I'm open
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: to it. I'm open to play wherever the team wants
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: me to play. You know, I already tried the outfield.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was bad. You know, I think
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I got, I caught all the fly balls, but it
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: was definitely scary. You know, I never played outfield since
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: I was like.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: 15 years old. So, yeah. You know, it's– the first
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: game I was definitely so nervous. It was crazy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they put you out there. You made
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the plays. I was just wondering about that. But you've
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: always said, I want to catch. What is it about
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: catching that you love? Like, because let's be honest, like,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you've got to work your butt off in that position.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: What do you love about it?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Man, I just feel like I'm, you know, I'm like–
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: I like suffering, you know, like getting hit.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I always been that way. You know, like,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I like all these kind of, like, the hard things.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I really enjoy the easy things. I think all the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: hard things come with, like, with work.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I feel like all I have shifted my career is
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: just because, like, I did that, you know. And there's, like,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: there was always people calling me out on everything I do.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: So I think that's what I enjoy. You know, people
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: call me out on the throwing side, saying that I
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: can't catch, that I can't throw a ball. You know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I just continue to build for myself and I know
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I can achieve this goal in the future.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So you're saying when you hear the negativity that fuels you,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you get something?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100%.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Like, I always say, man, in Panama, nobody, like, said
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I was going to make it, even pro, you know. So, like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: scouts invited me to tryouts just so I can.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Catch the bullpen for the other guys. That's how it
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: was over here.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: So, I think that that's what mentally it really helped
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: me like push get better so that's how I really
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: like that's it that fuels me to you know all
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the hate all the stuff it's just like bang but
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: if I do it right, then what you're going to
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: say about, you know what I mean?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And, but I do not care what people say.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It's just like, Oh, you say that, but I'm going
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: to prove you wrong. That's it.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: But I do not care what anybody says.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: It's motivation. All right. So you handle a pitching staff
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that has some young pitchers in it. I think they
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: put the starting rotation in particular, very solid this year.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot. Understanding
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that stuff is just one part of pitching, right? Like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: You can have the best stuff in the world and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: not have location or not be able to think your
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: way through it. But in terms of stuff, which starter
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: on the Cardinals has the best stuff?
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Starting on the Cardinals with best stuff. Uh, you know,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I like, I.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Like Michael McGreevy just because like the command wise, all
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: of that, uh, It's tough.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Leahy got good breaking balls. I think that's really good stuff.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Leahy got a good year.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I think Leahy is one of the ones with nasty
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: stuff that I like catching. I caught him the last
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: start of the year, so got him once, and I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, man, I understand why he's having such
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: a good year.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Leahy always wanted to start. The game was shot. He
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: was really good this year. I think a lot of
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: people don't understand him. On the bump, on the mound,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he's a competitor, but he's so quiet. Like, I don't
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: think people understand that you can be a quiet guy
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse and be nasty on the mound. Explain
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: what it's like working with him because he is a
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: quiet guy.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been working with Ace since like 2019, you know, 2019.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And he's been, he's always been the same guy, quiet guy.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: You know, I've never, don't really talk much. I'm always
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: asking him questions.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, bro? You know, how you feel?
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I can get some words out of him, but it
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter the way you.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Are outside the field.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: All that matters is the way you go about your
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: business in there, the way you show up and you work.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: You see him every day working with CeCe in the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: training room, every day showing up. And he's just not,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: not just, he's not lucky. He put the work out
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: there too. So, you know, being quiet and it don't matter.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: It don't, it don't really matter. Just gotta go out
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: there and, you know, act like a cat, like a cat,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: like a dog.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Not like a cat, like a dog.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I got you like a dog. You can say cat
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: cause I'm the cat. Last thing. And I don't think
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I've ever asked you this. What do you do? Like
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you got time in the off season. I know you're training.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I know you're working. What do you do for fun?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: What does Yvonne Herrera do for fun in the offseason? Like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: what's a fun day for you?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Fun day for me is, you know, maybe go to
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the beach, maybe on the weekend.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I like doing all kind of like,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like fighting, honestly, you know. I love doing that. I
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: think that's my fun. I think, like I said, I like,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I like feeling pain. So I like, Just, you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: getting here a little bit. It's just like, that's my OV.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Wait, so you're saying like mixed martial arts stuff you do?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I like doing that. It's fun. It's really fun.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Just like slow, you know, I don't go crazy, you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to get hurt, but it's very fun
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Well, that also gives people something to think about next
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: time they decide to plunk you with a pitch in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the ribs that you're an MMA guy, right?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I don't really like fighting people, but if I have
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: to do it, then, you know, I'd just do it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yvonne, we appreciate the visit. It's fun watching you. It's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: fun dealing with you during the season, seen in the clubhouse.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody loves Yvonne Herrera. Thanks for coming on. I do
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode addition of Cardinal Territory,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Jim Hayes with Kyle Gibson and Lance Lynn, and a
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: special guest, 12-game winner Andre Palante is joining us. Hello, Andre.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. I know these guys are
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: your former teammates, so we're hoping it's a pitcher's roundtable,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to start with a question, and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: we'll rotate a little bit. My first question, Andre, is this.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: You won 12 games, tip of the cap to you.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You had an ERA of, what, 3.8? Three, if I
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: could read my chicken scratch here. Really solid numbers. It
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: would have been better to get a couple of rough
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: starts toward the end of the season. But overall, really good.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: What was your main takeaway, would you say, from this
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: season where it seems like you really.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: Came into your own?
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it really has to do with, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: understanding myself as a pitcher. Just kind of understanding, like,
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: you know, these are my strengths.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: This is what I do really well.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: And then how to complement those and not letting anything
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: kind of take me out of that, regardless of whether
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: it's results-based, whether it's scouting report-based, whatever that is, really
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: just understanding who I am as a pitcher and really
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: just staying committed to that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Look, Dre, you got to get out of here early
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: at some point, so go ahead. Give them some questions.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Dre, I grew a gym.
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: Awesome year, man. Fun to watch you guys. We talk
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: about it a lot on here. The style of baseball
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: you guys played was really fun to watch. Solid defense,
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: starting pitching. Pitching overall, you guys dealt with some adversity,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: with some injuries, with a lot of things. But you
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: guys powered through and beat expectations. So talk to me
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: a little bit about the culture that you guys are
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: building and how you guys kind of eliminated some of
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: that outside noise to have the successful year that you have.
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think as a whole, as a team,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: it was so awesome to see a lot of the
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: younger guys come up and perform well. And, you know,
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: you see some guys live up to their potential, especially like,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: you know, Jay Walk having as great of a year
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: as he had, you know, seeing, you know, just a
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: lot of guys come out and really show out and
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: show what they're capable of.
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: And there's a lot to be excited for with the Cardinals.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: You know, these guys are good.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: We're all really good.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: And being able to show a glimpse of that's obviously great. Pitchers,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, like McGreevy showing up, showing like, you know, he's,
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: He knows who he is so well. He's so consistent.
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: So having him come up, get a full season on
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Irv's ball was awesome to really see.
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: So you've been through a little bit of up and down, right?
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Everybody has it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: I think unfairly Major League Baseball players catch flack for
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: not being perfect every year, right? I took a similar
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: career path, so I feel like I can say this,
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: and I don't think you're going to take take offense
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: to this, but last year wasn't the year you wanted
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: to have. You get another full year this year, you
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: switch up some usages and you have an awesome year.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: Tell us a little bit about some of those adjustments
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: that you made, because I'm looking at some pitch usage,
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: you know, some spin adjustments, approach adjustments, you know, take
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: us through a couple of the things that your mindset,
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: you know, shifted toward for this year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think I really developed a clear understanding
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: of how I attack my hitters, you know, left-handed hitters,
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: right-handed hitters. To left-handed hitters, you know, I've got a
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: kind of cutty fastball that plays great up and into them. And,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: you know, I kind of like I always knew that
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: was my strength, right? Like that's why I was in
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: the big leagues for the last five years, whatever it is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: That's been the core of my uniqueness and what's made
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: me really good. So I think like understanding that and,
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: you know, challenging myself to be the best pitcher I
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: can at that as well as developing supplemental stuff to that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: So to lefties with the up and in fastball, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: changed the mentality with my curveball, where when I was
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: in college, in the minors, that was always a put-away
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: pitch for me. I changed that mentality to be, okay,
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: this is a pitch I want to land for strikes
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: whenever I want, whenever I need to, in order to
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: get me.
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: Back in counts and keep hitters guessing.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: As well as using more sliders and development of a changeup,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: just giving more looks that can kind of take hitters
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: off that up and in spot, which I know is
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: my strength. And the righties, it was kind of like
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: the understanding of like, I never really had a true.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Identity with them.
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: I really struggled with them when I first came up
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: because I've kind of got that cutty fastball and the
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: slider and the curve ball, everything I threw moved away
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: from them. So it was really hitter easy for hitters to,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: you know, develop an approach against me.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: And, um, you know, they, they hit me really well.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: And so I kind of had the development of the
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: two seam, which both you and Lance were there for, uh,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: you know, I brought it up, uh, with, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: I almost headshot some righties when I was first running
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: that pitch, but, uh, This last year, I felt like
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: I really honed in the command of that, and it
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: was really consistent for me.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: But I developed basically the basis of my game plan
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: is my best pitch varieties is a slider down and away.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: It's a pitch I need to execute, but it's a.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Really good pitch.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: And then what can I do to complement that?
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: And that was the development of the two-seam fastball, which
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I would throw up and in, the curveball, which I
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: would land for strikes to slow them down when I'm
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: not sure if they're hunting between the.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: Two of those, as well as how to use my
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: forcing a bit better.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: So some of the stuff that you did, you know
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: you had a few less starts this year just with
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: a short time on the IL but with 300 less
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: overall pitches you didn't completely eliminate your four seamer to
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: righties but you limited a lot you know just over
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: 129 starts your sinker usage tracked and a like you
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: probably used a little bit more of those to to
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: righties and then it looks like your slider usage also
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: shifted up so is that kind of that uh you
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: know know your strength uses that you're talking about was
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: the four seamer you know down in a way was
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: that kind of a pitch that you said hey what
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: am i doing giving up hits on this with my
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: sinker it's going to be so much better down there.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think the sinker elevates the slider
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: a lot more, right? I think they tunnel better. Like
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: the foreseam and the slider, the tunnel is basically the same.
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: You can kind of take the same swing at either
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: one of them and make the adjustment hit both. Whereas
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: the sinker, it tunnels, but it also has got so
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: much separation with the movement that it gets to a
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: different part of the zone. You have to swing at
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: it differently if you want to make good contact. So
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: that really just elevated it. So and then, yeah, with
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: understanding that my slider is my best pitch, regardless of
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: the scouting report, regardless of the situation, I'm going to
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: throw that to a hitter. That's where you saw the
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: increased uses there, as well as the foreseam was just
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: kind of like a just the pitch that got hit.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: You know, it was just a pitch that did not
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: perform well to righties. So throwing that less is always
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: better when it's a pitch that doesn't perform. But I
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: think I learned that it's best in like, you know,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: limit damage counts when guys are looking for either of
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: the two.
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: And I can kind of surprise them kind of like
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: a cutter.
• 30:59
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  Speaker 4: Lance in 2024.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: Did you think that you would now later hear Andre
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: Palante talking about pitch tumbling?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Did he just say that?
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: No, there's a one time we had to talk about it,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: chasing a sweeper. So there was times where, The beautiful
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: brain of Andre also got him in trouble early on
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: in his career because he is such a perfectionist. He
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: wants to be great. But what he learned and what
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: we're talking about now is he's figured out who he is,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: what stuff plays for him, and now he's slowly adding
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: on to what he does well, which is where the split, a.k.a.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: kick change, is coming into play and the things that
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: he's adding on to him. And I think that what
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: we've talked about in our past is you've eliminated the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: walks because you know who you are now too, which
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: is why I think our numbers were even better this year.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: So where do you think you're at on that now
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: that you're not chasing things that you're physically not capable
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: of doing with your arm slot and you're listening and
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: doing what we talked about from the get-go is know
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: who you are. So you know how to attack hitters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's easy to just say, Oh,
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: I should have listened to Lance my whole life. Um, but, uh,
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: you know, maybe I should have maybe Lance and Kyle
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: a little bit more, but I had to tune.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Out a lot of the BS.
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: So, but you know, yeah, I mean, definitely, like you said,
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: tunneling super important, like learning what pitches cooperates was a
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: big deal for last year. And hopefully, you know, keep
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: taking on that, keep building on that and have more
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: success in the future.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Before we let Kyle go, I wanted to ask you,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: so these guys were both your teammates, right? Both of them,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Chopped full of pitching wisdom. So tell me who was
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: a better teammate and who was a better guy to
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: go ask for information. That's what I want to know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Throw somewhere under the bus.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: He wants you to throw somewhere under the bus. I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: going to take it because I know how this goes.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Kyle was a good cop. I was a bad cop.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I told Dre to get his head out of his ass.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Kyle patted Dre on the ass. So that was our
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: That was our role. Those were our roles as veterans
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: at our time.
• 34:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, one of them was like, yeah, you know, Andre,
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: I really believe in you. You're going to figure this out.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: You're great.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Your girlfriend's amazing. I don't know why you guys aren't
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: engaged yet. Like, you're awesome. Another person was clapping apple
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: pie out of my hands and telling me to get
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: lost on the bus or go bring him snacks or something.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Go bring him a new dress.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Shit is in the back. I think I told you
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: that shit is in the back one time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys can decide for who I'm talking about.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Well, let's be honest. There's always that one guy on
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: each team, and Kyle knows that, that shows up and
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: thinks they've got 10-5. I mean, and Dre did it
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: to himself. I remember he got mouthy like day three
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: of spring training, and Kyle goes, oh my God, this
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: kid has no idea what he just started doing.
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  Speaker 8: But I was thinking of day one. And so, so
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: people understand 10, five, right? You're talking 10 year service time,
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: five with one team. Andre, when you get that, what
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: can't happen?
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  Speaker 4: Um, you can't be, I want somebody who doesn't know
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: what it entails. I love that. I've been chasing something.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: He doesn't know what it gives you. It means you
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: can't get treated without your approval.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: You got no trade clause and five years to get
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: you no option. So you're not to.
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  Speaker 1: Five years yet.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: So watch yourself. All right, so.
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  Speaker 8: Anyways, yeah, I think it was day one or day
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  Speaker 8: two that between, I think Burley was a little bit
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: less comfortable the first week, but Burley and Lance have
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: a lot of similarities there. But I'm pretty sure Andre
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: saw Lance and I coming to spring training, and he
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: just wanted to stir the pot with a couple other
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: fellow starters right out of the gate. And Lance and
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: I had lockers right there in the corner on the
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: way to everything. So Andre had nowhere to go. except
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: walk right past us every time.
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  Speaker 1: It was great. All right.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: One thing you know about Andre is he cannot not
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: say something if it's on his brain. So we learned
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: that real quick and that, that made good fun. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: really did. So I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. All right.
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: I got to run, but I got one more question
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: and then I'm sure Lance will go into tunneling on this,
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: but I want to talk about the kick change because
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: I see some to lefties and I don't see very
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: many to righties. Is that something that you plan to
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: work in? Because, you know, as we talked about with,
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: you know, not throwing a sweeper and how your release
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: point works with your pitches, your kick change and your
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: slider go opposite on the observed movement. So tell me
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: a little bit about your kick change and if there's
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  Speaker 8: any more plans for it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, that was a pitch, you know, like
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: before I came out to spring, it was great. When
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: I got out to spring, completely forgot how to throw it.
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  Speaker 7: I had no idea where it was going. The movement
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: was wrong. The location was bad. And I kind of, like,
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: figured it out towards.
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  Speaker 4: The beginning of the year.
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  Speaker 9: I thought I lost it, like, the middle of the year.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: You know, there's even clips, like, I threw one in Cincinnati,
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: and it moved the wrong way. It cut, and the hitter,
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  Speaker 7: De La Cruz, swung and missed at it. The catcher
• 37:15
  Speaker 7: completely whipped on it and hit the umpire right in
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  Speaker 7: the face. So part of it was just, like, trying
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: to develop, like, how do I get this pitch more consistent?
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: which about the halfway point of the year and on,
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  Speaker 7: it was really good, very consistent. And then it just
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  Speaker 7: became about a comfortability thing. I don't preset the kick change,
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: and it's a weird grip. So for me to, like,
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: try and dig in and get it, like, my whole
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  Speaker 7: posture changes. I'm pretty sure everyone on the planet can
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  Speaker 7: tell when I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: To throw it.
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  Speaker 9: But that's the goal for this season is, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God, oh, my God, he called it. He
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: called it.
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  Speaker 4: It's like a kid throwing it and literally, yeah, I
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: like that one. First slider of the day.
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  Speaker 7: Um, but yeah, so the goal is to preset that.
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  Speaker 7: So that way there's a little bit more deception with it.
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  Speaker 7: So I can use it with guys in base and
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: I was using with guys in base towards the end
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  Speaker 7: of the year anyways. But, um, yeah, specifically righties. I
• 38:06
  Speaker 7: threw one when I was coming back from a live
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: BP and threw it to Pedro and it was probably
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: the best one I've ever thrown in my life. Um,
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  Speaker 7: so there's definitely plans, uh, to use it more, especially
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: to righties. Cause it's one of the highest like missed
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: pitches in the league is like I change up right on.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Um, so if I, yeah, that's definitely a goal for
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: my mind to get that into more usage.
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: All right, well, my only tip for you, Jim, I'm
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: going to have to run, so I'm going to give
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: Andre my only unsolicited tip he didn't ask for. I'm
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: going to tell him anyways. When you get to spring,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: I know last spring training was a little different. You
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: were coming off of a down year. You wanted to
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: kind of prove the adjustments you made, so the kick
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: change probably wasn't a priority. I would suggest to you
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: when you get to spring this year, every at-bat, whether
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: live BP or in the game, use a kick change
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: before you use your spins. I did it about every
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: year the first couple starts to make sure that my
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: changeup was on point when I went into the year.
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  Speaker 1: It's a field pitch, right?
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: As you now know, it's a big-time field pitch. Not
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: like slide or set and forget it. Throw that kick
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  Speaker 8: change every at-bat before you throw your spin. That thing
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: will be locked in by the time you get to
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  Speaker 8: the end of March. Or as Jim says, it's going
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: to be the end of July because of the lockout.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: So watch out for his negativity the rest of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: time here. But he doesn't think you guys are going
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  Speaker 8: to even play. So I think the end of March...
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  Speaker 8: You'll be ready for the season. But Dre, appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 8: Sorry I got to run.
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  Speaker 4: As always, call me a second if you got anything.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: anything but appreciate you being here.
• 39:31
  Speaker 9: Bud appreciate it thank you give me.
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  Speaker 1: See you kyle i'm kyle by the way it's not
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: telling the truth is i believe uh cooler heads will
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: prevail and they will eventually figure this thing out at
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: least that's what i'm hoping let me ask you this
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: uh the season you guys put together as a team
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: um You guys, I think, outperformed a lot of what
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of predictions were, what a lot of people
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: thought you guys could do. And I noticed even when
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: there was like a dry spell where you guys weren't
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: playing good, you guys bounced back. A lot of comebacks
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: and everything. Young team that really believed in itself. And
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, like, for the fans that don't get
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to see it, because you guys are a tight-knit group,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: who are the guys that are some of the leaders
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse that maybe they might not It's just bad.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I think you get, you know, Burleys in there, you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Masons in there, Walkers. We get that. Give me some
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: guys who have a leadership role that maybe fans wouldn't
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: know about, guys that are not afraid to say something.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Just curious.
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I think obviously you've got the main leaders, right?
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: And I think because we're all it's not like we
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: have a vocal leader.
• 40:42
  Speaker 7: It's not like someone goes up there and it's like,
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: all right guys, you know, here, now we, now we got,
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: now we go wherever, you know, wherever that would look
• 40:49
  Speaker 7: like or entail. But I just think, um, because no
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: one's feels uncomfortable. No one feels like they're below anyone.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: No one feels like there's this hierarchy at all. Um, it,
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: it really feels like guys feel open or free to
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: just kind of be themselves or do what they feel
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: like they need to. And, um, I think, yeah, you,
• 41:06
  Speaker 7: you see that with just the comfortability, even like the
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: big moments, right. Um, Everyone's expecting the best of themselves. So, yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: I just think just kind of group buy-in and stuff
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: like that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Would you say– well, I think most people would say
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: you guys outperformed, especially projections this year, right? I think
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Gibby and I have always talked about, especially with Jim,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: is we love the talent you guys had, and people
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: didn't realize how talented people are. So, obviously, this step
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: with Jordan and JJ coming up, You've got guys that
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: are taking those next steps. Talk about as a whole
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: what you think this group can do going in the
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: future as a core, and what are some things that
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: might prevail you guys to be a playoff contender next year?
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, maybe I'm biased, and I'm
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: sure you're biased as well, but I think obviously having
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: a good starting pitching is the most important thing when
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: it comes to just overall success, and I think a
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: lot of what we saw this year from the McGreevy,
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: his consistency, he's always going to be consistent. You know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: he shows up every day the same. His stuff is
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: always moving the same. His command's great. You know, he's
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: going to be a rock. Just, you know, you always
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: know what you're going to get from McGreevy. I think
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: Leahy showed signs of, you know, how good he can be.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: And I think when, you know, after having the workload spike,
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: he'll be a little bit more stronger, a little bit
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: more prepared. And I'll be able to keep like, you know,
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: what he gave up, like what, two runs or less
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: for like 12 straight starts in a row. Yeah, I
• 42:33
  Speaker 7: think that's something you can get starting to expect from him.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: You know, like he's really good. His stuff's amazing. His
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: command's great.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He's a hard worker.
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: You know, it really starts with starting pitching for sure.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: And that's probably because I'm biased. And then the core
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: of the lineup, I thought you really saw the strides.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: You know, JJ's got such a consistent approach, you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: his ability to kind of shrink the zone, make you
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: make pitches to him. and then take advantage of your mistakes.
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's a great hitter. He's going to have
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: success for a long time. Um, Jaywalk breaking out, showing
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: off the power, showing off everything we knew he was
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: capable of that we've all seen, but just kind of
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: like gets lost in the, you know, just the tough
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: kind of stress you had, you know, it's not easy.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: It's not easy to learn how to do the biggest,
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: especially when you're 20, you know, was he 22 and 21?
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: And this last year was 23. Uh, most guys don't
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: even debut until way older than that still. Um, so
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: I think, uh, And Burley's been super consistent. Burley's a
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: great hitter. He's one of the best hitters in the league.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: He doesn't get the respect he deserves for as good
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: as he is. And I think when you've got a
• 43:33
  Speaker 7: guy like that hitting in the middle of your lineup,
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: he can really elevate everyone else. So I think just
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: all that entails that we'll be very good coming up,
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: and there's a lot to be excited about.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: With Libby, you know, he had a rough season. He
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: had a lot of good starts in there. I know
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you guys are all tight in that starting rotation. How
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: tough was this season for him? Because I always say
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: on this show, it's like Libby territory because we're all
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: pro Libby because he's such a good guy. But what
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: did you see?
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: What did you guys talk about trying to get him
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: on track?
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, hey, trust me, I wish I wish
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: every one of us had the answer for everyone else,
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: because then you give it to them and then everyone's great.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: But we're always working at it. We're always paying attention.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: We're watching the starts or seeing the work he puts in.
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: We're seeing all that. I think most importantly, you start
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: off with saying that, you know, I said it, I
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: want to say about three years ago, I was sitting
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: down and spring training and my roommate was John. And
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: it was like John and his, his wife and my
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: girlfriend and I were also in there. I'm like, if
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: Libby can't start in the big leagues, no one can.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: Like his stuff is amazing. He's a great pitcher. He's
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: got the command. He's got the stuff. He's got the
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: work ethic, all this stuff. Like we all really believe
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: in him. And I especially believe in him a lot.
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: And I think, you know, It's just.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Part of the game.
• 44:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know if Gibby talked to me about it before.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he's brought it up in this meeting,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: but it was just like, you know, you have stress
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: in your career where you get exposed, you know, exposed
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: for either your weaknesses or, you know, sometimes it's mentality
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: that gets you away from what you're good at or
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: whatever that is.
• 45:08
  Speaker 9: And, you know, it's a tough thing to go through.
• 45:10
  Speaker 9: I felt for him.
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: You know, I just had gone through that like last year.
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: I know exactly where he was at mentally and with
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: a lot of that stuff or at least how I
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: felt about it. But I think, you know, if anyone's
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: going to work their tail off to get back and
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: get right, it's going to be him. I think, you know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: he's going to obviously work harder and like making the
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: spin more effective and all that stuff. And I'm excited
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: to see what he comes up with, because if I
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: know him, he's going to be almost unrecognizable with how
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: much work he's going to put in on himself this year.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: No, that's a good way. I've comped him to you
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: in the past coming from last year to this year.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: That's the hope. for him next year, in my opinion, is, hey,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: you have your first year fully starting, right? You had
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that the year before, had some success. League kind of
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: figures you out. You have some bad luck. You run
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: away from contact because every ground ball gets through, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: then the walks mount, and then big innings mount. I
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: feel like in Libby's bad starts, it was very similar
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: to that. So people don't realize you got to get
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: kicked in the sack a little bit to learn how
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: to get through those things and let the game slow
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: down for you, right? So hopefully for Libby's sake, with
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: his stuff and going through these times, the game will
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: slow down for him like it did for you. And
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: that's my hope for him going forward. I know, like
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: we said, we're all big Libby's fans. Just like when
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: you came in and did what you did this year,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: we were like, hey, give Palante a chance. Like bad
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: stuff happened the year before and that will happen in
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: this game. But give them a break because they have
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: this stuff to pitch. So no, we're right there with you.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I know Jim loves all your catchers. He wants you
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: to choose who's your favorite catcher to throw to. and
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: put the rest of them, you know, one or two
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: of them under the bus. But, you know, as a staff,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: you have to love the different catchers you guys have
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to throw to because they're all warranted to be back
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: there and warranted for playing time, and they all bring
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: something different. So kind of touch on those guys right
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: now because you've got a good group.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know personally Ivan was so great for
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: me back there. I don't know what my year was
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: with him back there, but he was phenomenal. He always
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: seemed to call the right pitches at the right times.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know what, I don't know what magic sauce
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: he had for that, but he was great. Uh, especially for, uh, Pedro,
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: what Pedro did was honestly incredible. I don't know at
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: what point of the year it was, but almost, it
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: was like two thirds of the season. He was tied
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: for the league lead in runner stone out. And like
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: a third of the games played, um, which is incredibly
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: hard to do. Like it's hard to do when you
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: are playing every game. And then he was doing in
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: less than half. Um, so you can tell, clearly tell
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: he's great back there at what he does. He's great
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: at throwing guys out. Great at calling a game. He
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: has a lot of really good stuff. And, uh, You know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: I hope he gets more opportunities here in the future.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: And then Bernal, I mean, he came up and I
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: thought he did a great job with me. I thought
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: he was, you know, worked hard. He always tried to,
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: you know, kind of get the feel for what I
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: like to do. And I mean, when I would see
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: him hit, I don't know. I don't know what his
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: scouting report is, but every single time he came up
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: to bat, I felt like in like a big moment,
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: I would see him hit some fastballs above his head
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: at like 99, some incredibly good fastballs up in the zone.
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: And he just hammered them. So I don't know if
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: he's just great at that, but whatever it was, it
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: was really incredible to watch him, you know, come up
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: here and have that success. And for me personally, I
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: will never throw him a fastball up just from what
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: I've seen.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Andre, last question, then we're going to let you go.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: What's for dinner tonight? What are you cooking?
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: Dinner tonight's going to be pretty simple.
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: I just got back. I'm just visiting my family out
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: in California right now. So, Probably just order something in.
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: But when I get back home, I've got some Gibby-sponsored
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: pans that he recommended to me. And I'm really excited
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: to make these new recipes that our new chef has
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: sent over to me. So we'll be making probably a
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: cavatelli alla vodka, a pistachio-crested lamb, or Wagyu sticky rice
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: will be next on the menu.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, hold on.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I got one thing. Two off-season things to work on, right?
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Kick change to righties and make sure your skit on
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: the mic It gets locked in. You've got to have
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: a go-to and get the boys going on road trips.
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: Definitely room for improvement there. I don't like getting booed
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: every single time I hop on the mic. so we've
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: got to get something going.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: There's a good chance you get booed even if you
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: have a great skit. That's kind of the skit when
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: you get on the mic.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: Well, I'll let you know what that is when I
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: come up with something good.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: If you need any help, Gibby and I, we've seen
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: some good ones. All right.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Get to work on that. And again, thanks for the time.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this edition of Cardinal Territory.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: We'll see you for the next episode. Hopefully that one
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: won't suck.