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- 0:00Ah, whirs it is? Oh you want to talk to her? I
- 0:11would give you a show that you have never recovered being the fort a wife
- 0:17because I can't. What do you guys want to talk about? God?
- 0:32And the color red in the world for the black and white either of world?
- 0:41Yeah, don't you an if you don't excuse me. You got ladies
- 1:26and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages. Welcome to another
- 1:27episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling. I am your host, Wayne also known
- 1:33as Semi Dry Chicken, and this is going to be a delicious episode.
- 1:38We have so much ship to talk about. We got news out the ass
- 1:42and then we were gonna cover the Royal rumble. Uh there's a lot to
- 1:49cover there, big big show, a really big show. But uh,
- 1:53let's get this rumble started, shall we? Black y'all, and I'm black,
- 2:06y'all, and I'm blacking it black, and I'm black, y'all,
- 2:07and I'm black, y'all, and I'm black, y'all, and I'm blacking
- 2:10it black and I'm black, y'all. I'm bligging it black, blacking and
- 2:14black black. I'm blacking it black, yo, because I'm black and I'm
- 2:17black and I'm black and I'm black, y'all, and I'm blacking to black
- 2:21can not black, y'all. And I'm black, y'all, and I'm black,
- 2:23y'all, and I'm blacking to black. You're I'm black, y'all,
- 2:27and I'm brigging it black black black black black black black black black black y'all
- 2:31and not black y'all. If I had a Nickel welcome black dre yo,
- 2:39yo, what to do? PCW crew, you know, thinking I'll switch
- 2:43it up for the month, you know, when you when you said to
- 2:47me, I was like, oh, I get why he wants this,
- 2:52you know, I didn't know what it was until I clicked it. I
- 2:53was like, okay, I understand for the month. Let's let's do it
- 2:57right. And I click on it and it started, and I thought,
- 3:02okay, maybe this is just the first like ten seconds. Maybe there's gonna
- 3:06be some lyrics and more lyrics and now leaning forward and like an admnute,
- 3:10Now there's gonna be some more lyrics, And I'm just like, what what's
- 3:17that from before? Yep? See before? Exactly classic? All right,
- 3:23fucking classic, let's get let's get him in here. We're coming down,
- 3:49We come out on the table, turn it on down when we come about
- 3:58to shut down Doyle. Oh it's me, It's me, It's the Doyle
- 4:06And right off the bat, I got a recommendation for you, fel It's
- 4:11uh Big E produced a and lens his voice too, a animated short cartoon.
- 4:17It's called Bridges. It is on YouTube as of today. It is
- 4:21fantastic. I highly highly highly recommend it. Take twelve minutes out of your
- 4:29day and check that out. It's great. Yeah, I saw you posted
- 4:32in the discord. I'm definitely gonna check that out. Yeah, that sounds
- 4:36you know what. They like any kind of voice work wrestlers do on their
- 4:42If they get the opportunity to do any kind of voice work, I'm always
- 4:45up for it. Like you know what, It's such a stupid movie,
- 4:47but I thought it was funny. Do you ever see Surfs Up Too?
- 4:51Do you know Vince mcman is in that? What Vince? No? Seriously
- 4:57watch Surfs Up Too? Like the second one and Vince is in it,
- 5:00The Undertaker is in it, Michael Cole is in it. John Cena is
- 5:04in it, and they all play like these these animated characters. Can they
- 5:10do a Scooby Doo cartoon. Also, I think so yes, like a
- 5:14WrestleMania related Scooby Doo thing. But they've had some weird cartoon stuff. There
- 5:17was Camp Wwe right, Oh yeah, I like that though. That was
- 5:24funny as hell. Yeah. Well this this, this cartoon a biggies has
- 5:29absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with progress. Okay, it's still excellent. Yeah.
- 5:39Surfs Up to Wave Mania came out twenty sixteen. Also had it that
- 5:47the movie with the penguins. Yeah, dude, the penguins that surf I
- 5:53don't know why I was thinking surf Ninjas. Oh dude, I was just
- 5:57I was like, wait, they made a surf ninja? Is that much
- 5:59that much? Damn? Later, wasn't that a Chris Farley movie Surfing Ninjas?
- 6:02No, that was Beverly Hills Ninja. Now we're now we're going down
- 6:08a rabbit hole. Surf Up. You ever see movies American Ninja? Yeah,
- 6:19that was one of That was an eighties movie, right, one of
- 6:21those eighties martial arts flicks. There's like four or five of them. So,
- 6:27guys, the other day, I'm at work, and I mean I'm
- 6:30in one of the warehouses and uh, I hear about an aisle over for
- 6:36me, I hear, uh, some typical what it sounds like commentary for
- 6:44a wrestling match, and I immediately was like, I recognize those voices.
- 6:47That's Michael Cole. And I popped my head around the corner and there was
- 6:53a guy on his phone watching the wrestling cliffs and I just go so,
- 6:56I see you're into wrestling. And we started chatting and he's he likes the
- 7:02Attitude Era. That's that's where he watched it. And I think that's kind
- 7:06of where he fell off. I know a lot of people like that who
- 7:10were like, oh, yeah, I love the Attitude Era. If they
- 7:13would ever bring that back, I'd come back and watch. But I haven't
- 7:15watched since. I think we all kind of know at least one person like
- 7:19that. We call them casuals, Yes, yes, and they're always like,
- 7:25well, you know, if the Rocket Stone Cold would come back full
- 7:28time, I'd come back as a fan, like okay, right, Like
- 7:32they're in their fifties, like you understand right. I mean it's understandable because
- 7:40the Attitude Era was also the Monday Night Wars era, so that was kind
- 7:45of wrestlings. I don't want to say peak giving what you know, what
- 7:49the product is nowadays, but for a lot of people, that was the
- 7:53peak of wrestling at that time. Especially Monday nights were dominated by wrestling.
- 8:00You either watching Nitro or you're watching Raw so and it Stone Cold and the
- 8:03Rock and guys like that and staying in others had that crossover appeal, so
- 8:09that where they brought in people who normally would not watch wrestling got sucked into
- 8:13the product. And then obviously once things change up, those people who just
- 8:18were kind of in it because they were riding the wave just fell off.
- 8:20Yea. Also, like it's starting to like really like sink in, Like
- 8:26the rumble is over, so the wheels are in motion for WrestleMania, and
- 8:31I'm like looking at the calendar of like how close everything's coming, and I'm
- 8:35getting excited and I'm finding out like there's more and more people that I know
- 8:39that are going to be there, and it's gonna be cool because like I'm
- 8:43pretty sure like one of the days, it's probably the first day, we're
- 8:46all gonna be wearing PCW shirts and it'll be very easy for all of us
- 8:52to find each other. Uh. And then like it's like, oh,
- 8:54man with wrestling shirts that were like Night two. But I know or fact,
- 9:00at some point during the show, I gotta get around seeing everybody,
- 9:03I mean the whole like maybe like a slow women's match or something. You
- 9:07know, I'll be out there just uh in the park. You're stay here,
- 9:13you stay here, step you take me to them, take me to
- 9:18take me to him. Come on, go go go go go go,
- 9:20come go, go, go go go. We're a ton of my pitch.
- 9:24Where is it? What? God? What? That's gonna just me
- 9:31tracking all of you guys down. Where's the son of a bitch for the
- 9:33PCW shirt? That's me tracking out Carlos. Where is he? Where's do
- 9:37we have jackets? Jackets available in the uh? Like, I don't think
- 9:43a T shirt is gonna be sufficient. I know I'm gonna have to find
- 9:46like a separate website to get like specifically just hoodies because I'm dropping money on
- 9:52a definitely, you know, I'm not looking for like a denim jacket or
- 9:56like a bowling jacket, like like when a Homer was in the bowling team.
- 10:01There's there's a chance it's gonna be eighty degrees, but there's equally a
- 10:05chance it's gonna be degrees. Yeah, I mean I don't even know,
- 10:11dude, because like honestly, we're seeing like fifty degree weather here like next
- 10:15week, like in Pennsylvania, and you know, I'm only like an hour
- 10:18away from where this is gonna be shot. Like, I mean, the
- 10:20weather here is so weird, like we already had like a massive snow and
- 10:24then now it's like it feels like spring already, Like it feels like we're
- 10:28going through all the weather climbates. So like, honestly, like you know,
- 10:31peeps who are listening, who are coming for for WrestleMania, I would
- 10:35just say, be prepared for it to be cold, but also have something
- 10:39that you're willing to like shed layers off of. Don't don't don't come in
- 10:43like a onesie, you know, don't don't come in like like a big
- 10:48puffy jacket, like you don't you don't want that, you want like a
- 10:52hoodie. And you know, I'm pretty sure we're gonna have most of it's
- 10:56gonna be drinking. We'll stay warm that way. I'm I I feel like
- 11:01I will lose my voice whether it's night one. I mean, these guys
- 11:05doing on commentary all the time and we saw that rumble. I mean,
- 11:09I could. I feel like I'm easily gonna lose my voice easily. Oh
- 11:16wait, let's I have questions for the episode. I have multiple questions,
- 11:20and I will ask those we'll say towards the end of the Yeah, we'll
- 11:24do it after the rumble. But for now, we're going to break into
- 11:28news and I'm gonna play this cool news bumper. Oh here we go.
- 11:46Well, I got news for you, Doyle. Uh, I would like
- 11:56you to deliver this crazy news. I just can't. I just can't do
- 12:01it. I just can't fathom and put this fucking story together because I just
- 12:05can't believe that it's real, you know, So go for it. Well,
- 12:09I mean it shouldn't be a big surprise, but yeah, I mean.
- 12:13The big news, of course, is Vince has resigned once again,
- 12:18this time because a woman and former employee is suing him because of an NDA
- 12:26agreement she had entered into him to which he did not fulfill his end of
- 12:31the I believe it was for three million. He only gave her one million.
- 12:35So suffice to say, first things first, Vince is fucking gross,
- 12:39Johnny Aces gross, Brocus gross, you know, like I said, it
- 12:45shouldn't really be a big surprise to anybody, you know. In June of
- 12:48twenty twenty, the Wall Street Journal reported that the board of w W was
- 12:54investigating a secret three million dollar payment into a paralegal that Vince apparently had entered
- 12:58into a sexual relationship with. Well, that turns out that that's this woman,
- 13:03Janelle Grant, who's filing this lawsuit currently. So a month later,
- 13:09the Wall Street Journal reports that there's twelve million dollars worth of payments to four
- 13:13different women. And it was then that Vince left for the first time.
- 13:18But even that was nothing new, because in nineteen ninety two, extra referee
- 13:22Riada Chatterton accused Vince of raping her. In two thousand and six, of
- 13:28Florida Tanning salon employee said that Vince attempted to rape her. And that's not
- 13:33even accounting for all the shady shit that Vince has done, both on camera
- 13:37and off, you know, between covering up a murder committed by one of
- 13:41his Wrestlersyle, Yeah, use that bumper, the one we just messed earlier.
- 13:48Oh sure, I'm how to play the pumper anyway? Come on,
- 13:52you right, missed? Okay? Yeah, right, I mean the way
- 13:56he's booked women on his own program and often involving himself, you know,
- 14:01forcing his employees to literally kiss his ass on national television. You know.
- 14:05So there's no chance in hell they did there that an endeavor didn't know about
- 14:09this, Slim Jim didn't know about this, that the Rock didn't know about
- 14:13this, and maybe most importantly, the Triple H didn't know about this,
- 14:16and fucking shame on Triple H. You know, does he really expect us
- 14:22to believe that he had no idea about any of this? I guess he
- 14:24doesn't read the Wall Street Journal, you know, does he really expect to
- 14:28believe he hasn't read the complaint? Fuck you, Hunter? You're serious?
- 14:33Like you know? And could he he could still give a non answer answer
- 14:37at the press conference, you know, without insulting our intelligence. He could
- 14:41have said something like, uh, I don't know. I can't comment on
- 14:45an ongoing investigation, but we take this very seriously and we will deal with
- 14:50it appropriately when the investigation is concluded. See that was pretty easy. You
- 14:54know, maybe Hunter didn't know Vince was pimping this woman out to brock Lesnow,
- 15:00maybe he didn't know Vince took a ship on her head. You know,
- 15:03maybe he didn't know the details. But don't you dare try to sell
- 15:07us that you didn't know anything. You know, shame on triple h and
- 15:11but tomorrow a phrase from Paul Haveman, I think we might only be in
- 15:16the second inning of all of this. You know, I guess to Endeavors
- 15:20credit Ari Emmanuel's credit, although it's minus saying that his daughter works at WWE,
- 15:26so I imagine he has maybe a little more personal stake in it.
- 15:31I do believe they'll get to the bottom of it, you know. I
- 15:33think they'll find out who else was involved, who else knew about it,
- 15:35who didn't say anything? You know, how deep it goes. You know,
- 15:39we've seen we've seen Ronda Rousey say that Bruce Pritchard was being compliant in
- 15:46all this. I hope not. I really like Bruce, but you know
- 15:48what, if he is, he's got to go. You know. He
- 15:52makes me wonder about Kevin Dunn resigning a couple of weeks ago. I mean,
- 15:56did that have anything to do with this? You know, Vince and
- 15:58Shame have had a falling out, you know, going back years, and
- 16:03I wonder what you know, does that have anything to do with this?
- 16:08So, you know, I think I expect a lot more to come out.
- 16:12I think this is just a typical Iceberg. You know, there's still
- 16:15we still have this four this twelve million dollars to four other women. So
- 16:18what's going on with them? I wonder the latest news as far as I
- 16:23understand it, as the Laurenis is uh claiming that he's a victim of Vince
- 16:29McMahon. Also Vince made me do all this stuff. Uh, so we
- 16:33see when that goes. And it's also my understanding that this woman, Grant's
- 16:37lawyer is getting more than a few uh ex employees coming forward and saying,
- 16:44oh, I have a story. I have a story. I have a
- 16:45story. So I think this is much much, much bigger than then we
- 16:52then we know about so far. But if there's any positive to be gleaned
- 16:57to this is that another rich white asshole got brought down by his own hubrius.
- 17:02You know, because not only did he think he'd get away with it,
- 17:04and he did, in fact get away with it for years and years,
- 17:07but he thought he could sell his company, go down a wall street,
- 17:10ring a bell and smile and make the media rounds and that nobody was
- 17:14gonna find out about this, Like when when deals for a a bazillion dollars
- 17:18go through every fucking rock, every stone, every t every eye, everything
- 17:23is check check checked. What a fucking piece of shit? Am I?
- 17:30Right? I mean, like here's the thing. It's like he I could
- 17:37kind of see a lot of this shit with Vince, right, especially when
- 17:41you look at a lot of the storylines he's done, like you say,
- 17:44like to kiss my ass club and stuff like it all like starts to make
- 17:47sense, like he's the actual gimmick that he portrays, Like this is this
- 17:52fucking sick individual, right, I mean, I'm glad that he's gone and
- 17:59stuff, and now they're gonna basically be giving him like the ben Wat treatment.
- 18:03And it seems like they're they might be doing the same with Brock,
- 18:07Like he showed me somebody I think it was you posted like a picture of
- 18:10like the Rumble past winners and like how Vince's blocked that blow uh you know,
- 18:15out of it Bronck is and and Crispin Wall Like how many more people
- 18:22do we have to lose to the ah But it's so crazy to believe,
- 18:27like brons tied into this too, you know, And then like how does
- 18:30Sable feel about this? And like and and John Lornidas and I was talking
- 18:36off air like how fucking awkward is those like Thanksgiving dinner's gonna be with the
- 18:38Bellatwins and Dane O'Brien and you know, it's like, so I heard you
- 18:45take part in some weird shit people, Uh this is crazy, you know.
- 18:52Uh, I don't know with Triple H, like how much you know
- 18:56he really knew? And I kind of guess with the press conference, it's
- 19:00like it was better safe than to say nothing at all, didn't even bull
- 19:04yeah shit that your boss and and father in law has said and you don't
- 19:11read it. But you know what I'm also thinking too, is I bet
- 19:15there was a moment where here it's just like, you know, like I
- 19:18don't want to be any part of this. Like he's like I I didn't
- 19:22have any part of it, and I don't want any part of it.
- 19:25Like he's kind of Triples is in a good place right now, right and
- 19:27it's like getting tied into that would suck, That would just ruin it for
- 19:33him, That would just ruin his career. A thing, getting tied in
- 19:37this, like you know it, Vince is gone, and you know he's
- 19:41gone. Like a lot of people were worried about the Netflix deal about oh,
- 19:45like they might try to pull out now after all this, It's like
- 19:48no, it's like Vince is gone, Like the problem's gone. There's no
- 19:53reason to pull out because of something like this. You know that's a big
- 19:59fucking money deal. Yeah, it does hurt it. But I wonder if
- 20:02Stephanie comes back now, Yeah, that's that's another thing I was wondering,
- 20:06is like the only person like right now, it's it's weird. This is
- 20:10the first time we've had no McMahon in the company, you know, running
- 20:15the company that's going back to Capital Wrestling Jesse. Yeah, man, and
- 20:19like it's gonna be so weird, Like now we know for sure that Vince's
- 20:26hands aren't in anything anymore, and like we're gonna see how the company progresses
- 20:32and changes, uh, through and through dre Like what are you what are
- 20:37you feeling in all this? Man? It's some crazy ship like no pun
- 20:41intended, but like just some crazy ship. Well I would say that one.
- 20:53Well, even though these are still technically allegations and that we are dealing
- 20:59with a civil lawsuit. I think anybody who has followed Vince's actions and is
- 21:10aware of things that have come out in the past and what that man's history
- 21:14is, I don't think anybody looks at those allegations and think that they are
- 21:19completely out of the realm of possibility for someone like Vince McMahon, you know,
- 21:26like the even as wild as some of the allegations are that are in
- 21:32that in the in the suit, you would think like would be beyond for
- 21:37a normal person. But somebody like Vince, especially a guy who has pretty
- 21:42much spent the majority of his adult life in his professional career sitting at the
- 21:49top of a company virtually unchecked for the entire time. That level of narcissism
- 21:59and that level of unchecked power can yield some pretty wild ship, as we've
- 22:07seen in the in this lawsuit, and now that now that this is I
- 22:17think what what kind of is surprising to me is the fact that TKO still
- 22:22went through with the deal with all of this stuff, Like did they they
- 22:29had to know about it? They had, I think to what extent I
- 22:33think they knew some stuff, But I think that part of it was them
- 22:37being willfully ignorant of things, and also possibly being lied to as to what
- 22:47extent this stuff where, like how deep this ship actually went with events like
- 22:53I'm pretty sure they didn't know. Oh he had some cases and he probably
- 22:56told them like, these are these things, they're taken care of, there
- 23:00have been resolved. They're not that bad, and they may have to their
- 23:04to their fault. Take maybe taking him at his word that these were minor
- 23:08issues, these were gonna be resolved. Maybe him getting those things resolved,
- 23:15taking care of or the whole NBA stuff maybe was part of it, like
- 23:21I'm gonna get these things taken care of. Don't worry, they won't become
- 23:22an issue. They'll go away. And they were like okay, And then
- 23:26he did enough to make them go away, just to make deal go through,
- 23:30and then Finns, being the narcissist that he is, Oh, it's
- 23:34gone through. We're all good. I've done my part. We're good,
- 23:40and then just drops it and then lo and behold them them checks stopped coming
- 23:45and Shorty's like, oh, oh you think you don't have to pay me
- 23:48no more? Okay, I'm about to flip all this shit over. Yeah,
- 23:52and boom, here we come, with this lawsuit. I mean,
- 23:56there's nothing more that can be said about Vincea hasn't already been said in terms
- 24:00of how completely repugnant he is as a person. And yeah, his career
- 24:06is completely over with, but he's still a fucking billionaire who's you know,
- 24:11we'll have to deal with public shame from his multi million dollar compound and Connecticut
- 24:21wherever he stays at for the rest of his life, which is always the
- 24:29fucked up part about when extremely wealthy people fall from grace and scandals and stuff
- 24:37like this. It's like, Okay, the world don't fuck with you no
- 24:41more. You gotta go away now. It ain't like you lose everything and
- 24:45you end up a bum on the streets. Like no, you get to
- 24:48go live in your mansions for the rest of your life and just be out
- 24:51of the spotlight and basically be rich and unbothered. That's your punishment. Yeah,
- 24:56yeah, I mean that's kind of the fucked up part of it.
- 25:00Now, as far as the internals and within WW and how this is gonna
- 25:04go from there and what's gonna happen, I mean, that's gonna play out
- 25:07over time. That's gonna play out over months, maybe even a year from
- 25:15now or years plural as far as what we'll see, because I imagine what
- 25:18they're doing now if t Ko's anything, is probably doing something internal and seeing
- 25:26you know now that this should been blown up, trying to keep it from
- 25:29getting any worse, or trying to prevent anything new from coming out, or
- 25:33try to get ahead of it. Like last thing they need to do is
- 25:38for this suit to go you know, unresolved, or for it to be
- 25:45reach some point where information starts to become public, and then we hear about
- 25:52other people who may still be with the company or other you know, noteworthy
- 25:56people and find out they had some and Vince's shenanigans, and we find out
- 26:02that you know, it wasn't just brock Lessner, it was you know,
- 26:06wrestler so and so, or wrestler so and so or executive so and so
- 26:10who's still with the company. This has the potential to be one of those
- 26:14things that just never goes away, like a fire that you think is put
- 26:18out, but you didn't fully put it out, and all of a sudden
- 26:19it flares right back up all over again. So if TKO is smart,
- 26:25they would be going to every single person and basically pulling them in the office
- 26:30and mean, like, motherfucker, you better tell me the one hundred percent
- 26:33truth about every question I'm about to ask you, and making sure that they
- 26:37have all their teas crossed, their eyes dotted, and anybody who needs to
- 26:44go get ahead of it, get them out now, because again, the
- 26:48last thing you want is or you know, three months from now or something,
- 26:53something comes out and we find out that, oh, Triple H was
- 26:57involved in YadA YadA, or you know, Bruce Pritchard was involved in such
- 27:03and such, or you know whoever. I know, it seems like every
- 27:07day or some top stars, some name comes out because then, like I
- 27:11said, this is just gonna blow up all over again, and it could
- 27:14end up really fucking bad, and you know, for the sake of the
- 27:18w W, for the sake of their product, I hope it's just limited
- 27:22to mostly vents and maybe a few executives who are no longer with the company,
- 27:27in that it does go away and that ww can move forward because the
- 27:30product itself is in one of the best places that it's been in a long
- 27:34time. The image of WWE, generally speaking, is the best that it's
- 27:41been in a long time. And it would be kind of unfortunate if all
- 27:47that gets tainted, because yeah, it'd be a shame if all that got
- 27:52tainted because you know, people still were trying to cover their own asses and
- 27:57still trying to still trying to hide stuff. How about It's like it seems
- 28:03like every day it's getting worse with with him, because like I mean,
- 28:08I think it was just like it's like what twenty four hours not even twenty
- 28:12four hours before like like slim Jim even took effect and like you know,
- 28:18dropping you know, ww real quick before the rumble, and then you know,
- 28:23then he resigned and then Slim Jim signed back up and then like I
- 28:27saw pictures of like brock Lessner in court and like now we're hearing things from
- 28:33John Lauren, I's lawyer, and it's like it's only been a week,
- 28:36and it's like there's so much shit happening every day. That's what I said.
- 28:41I yeah, because people, people are in people are in cya mode.
- 28:45Yeah. Yeah, look at the Bellotswins of all people trying to put
- 28:48out a statement about something I wouldn't have done nothing, y'all. Like one
- 28:55of the guys implicated in some of this stuff is y'all's daddy in law.
- 29:00Yeah, I could have just kept that whole tweet to yourself. I would
- 29:03if I would have if I had to tweet one thing, I would have
- 29:06tweeted stepfather, like emphasize on the step part. Yeah, just don't tweet
- 29:12anything or just say you know, or if you got to say anything,
- 29:17say something generic. I support victims, I staying with the victims something or
- 29:22something of that nature. But don't sit there and be like, we're shocked
- 29:23and appalled at these things and this is a tough time Like that, ain't
- 29:29it, Because it doesn't come off as that's what I mean. Like,
- 29:33I think that's another reason why I like at that press conference, like they
- 29:38like Triple didn't bring up anything because he just it's like, yeah, we're
- 29:41trying to focus on this and not anything negative. He could have said nothing,
- 29:47yeah, so much more. Yeah, there's a way to not stare
- 29:51at the camera but still acknowledge it. It seemed like he was just trying
- 29:55to complete intelligence. Yeah, that was the issue I had with his answers,
- 29:59Like he tried to just like completely not acknowledge it the big elephant in
- 30:04the room, like and there's no way he could not have known that this
- 30:07was coming. I give them credit for not pre screening questions because I don't
- 30:11think anybody would be surprised if oh they had right, I don't think anybody
- 30:15would have been surprised had not a single question been asked me to find out
- 30:18that oh ww was pre screening questions and it told them all, don't bring
- 30:22up the best thing, YadA YadA. So I give him credit for at
- 30:25least allowing the questions to be asked. But if you're going to do that,
- 30:30you should be prepared with some sort of answer other than I'm choosing to
- 30:33focus on the positive. Yeah, he sounded like Mark mcgouire up there.
- 30:37Yeah, it's come out from I guess from Sean ross Saffle Fightful select that
- 30:45apparently he asked he spoke with Sean Michaels about things, and he put out
- 30:49a couple of tweets that I'll read real quick, but one tweet says that
- 30:59on behalf of that, John Alba, on behalf of Fightful asks Shawn Michaels
- 31:03if he had conversations with talent or staff about allegations in the lawsuit Gordon and
- 31:08Philly. Shawn Michael says that everyone is clearly aware of it. The situation
- 31:14sucks, but they take it very seriously and are aware that NXT is full
- 31:18of impressionable talent. He says that NXT urges talent to be honest with them
- 31:22if they need help or if someone tries to take advantage of them. He
- 31:26says he thinks, coming off the rumble that a lot of talent are excited
- 31:29for the future despite the situation going on. From that, continue used to
- 31:37say, I asked Sean Michaels about protections in place for talent in NXT that
- 31:41could be impressionable or vulnerable. He said, wwe can always do better,
- 31:45and the information in the lawsuit is unfortunate. He says that there are some
- 31:48protections in place, but they will always try to do better in NXT,
- 31:52and it's something very important to him. Now, why the fuck couldn't Triple
- 31:57a just says something like that. Yeah. Maybe. Now, granted,
- 32:01maybe Triple Ah has way more lawyers in his ear given that he is in
- 32:06a CEO position, He's obviously a very much far higher ranking executive than Sean
- 32:12Michaels' is, So maybe Sean Michaels has a little bit more freedom to speak
- 32:15freely than someone like Triple Ah does. I get that. If that's the
- 32:19case, so be it. But da could lawyers also have a way of
- 32:24prepping you with something as opposed to just saying don't say nothing or just he
- 32:30could have given something more than just. I choose to pope to focus on
- 32:34the positive without still, I don't know, potentially implicating him more ww or
- 32:39saying something like I feel like that answer was just kind of to me.
- 32:45It freaked up being unprepared, as he would say, he lacked testicular for
- 32:50the tune. Yeah, Like, I don't think anybody expecting him to go
- 32:52out there and just spill all the tea or to take some bold stance against
- 32:57his you know, his father of law in law or anything of that nature.
- 33:00I didn't expect him to walk out there and be like, fuck Vince,
- 33:04we don't ever want to hear from him again, and he ain't coming
- 33:06to our kids Christmas or not. Like nobody expected that, but we expected
- 33:10something more than I'm choosing to focus on the positives right now. It's like,
- 33:16come on, you knew this was coming. You could have been more
- 33:19prepared, right well, I guess that. I was just like so excited
- 33:27to do the episode, but just because like it's like this is big news
- 33:30and it's like every day something new is dropping. I mean, if anything,
- 33:36we'll probably do another news dump episode because I'm sure like it's going to
- 33:40get bat shit crazy or in the next few weeks here, So I just
- 33:47want to continue talking about it then at that point. But yeah, I'm
- 33:52in some ye know, I'm imagine if anything new significant comes out about it,
- 33:55obviously will continue to talk about it. But for now, I guess
- 33:59we can all collectively say fuck Vince. Yeah, yeah, go away,
- 34:05And you know, I really all this stuff is completely true. It turns
- 34:09out to be actutely true that he did, which again, given that man's
- 34:15history, there's no reason to doubt it. Yeah then yeah, fuck him
- 34:19and he can rock lea. But like, yeah, now Brocks tied into
- 34:23this, and now we're seeing the effect that like an active, an active
- 34:29wrestler on the roster who's he like, who is pinned for certain matches is
- 34:34now they're having to reshuffle a bunch of shit on the card because of it.
- 34:38But we'll talk about that then, And uh, I guess injury wise,
- 34:44we'll get to that too, like we'll get say that fuck fuck.
- 34:50So okay, we're gonna wrap up this segment here. Let's you guys have
- 34:53anything else you want to add? I do not nothing, dog no.
- 35:01I mean. The only other thing that I think we didn't mention that I
- 35:06would question, excuse me, I go to dre syndrome would be uh there
- 35:12when Vince resigned the first time, a couple of executives, a couple of
- 35:15board members also resigned and part of his forcing his way back and was bringing
- 35:21two of them with him, and them those are the first people I would
- 35:24be interviewing, uh, because what's up with that? You know? But
- 35:30I mean I think Triple H can definitely count on being questioned about this again.
- 35:36I hope better answer next time. Yeah. Yeah, if more stuff
- 35:39comes out, then yeah, people are gonna be right back at them at
- 35:43the next pay per view or the next PLA your press conference. But like,
- 35:45so still want to focus on the positive. Are you ready to talk
- 35:50about some of this ship? Right? All right, Well, let's wrap
- 35:58the segment up and get to the Royal rumble. And I guess I got
- 36:04a bumper to uh for us to segue for this here we go. But
- 36:08let me tell you this, I am no pervert. For today's top story,
- 36:22the boy r D mankind. I'm w w webs invaded New York.
- 36:25Please be on the look up. His intentions are unknown. And when I
- 36:30say he never goes anywhere without a chef BOYRD overstuffed beat Ravioli, and his
- 36:35call is unmistakable. Beat me, let's nest. The hearty goodness of Chef
- 36:40boy r D definitely beats the lea. It's the perfect Ravioli. We're all
- 36:45mankind, all right, all right, I guess uh, let's talk about
- 36:55the Royal Rumble man. What a you know what, though, we had
- 37:00four matches on this entire card, And as I was watching this and realizing
- 37:07like the time frame for a lot of these matches, I was like,
- 37:10well they filled it pretty quickly, so Dre, you know what, I'll
- 37:17just like, let you take it from here, man, Yeah, yeah,
- 37:23yeah. World Rubble twenty twenty four took place from Saint Petersburg, Florida
- 37:29the Tropic Cana Field with an attendance of forty eight thousand people and forty four
- 37:35extras. Like yeah, like you said, Wayne, this was for as
- 37:42long as it was showing was to only have four matches, the two the
- 37:49Mini Wins World Rumble matches, the United States Championship match between Kevin Owens and
- 37:54Logan Paul, and the fatal four away match for the undisputed Universal w W
- 38:04Intercontinental International Intergalactic Transdimensional Championship whatever the hell they're calling that ship. Yeah,
- 38:14yeah, of Middle Earth. They managed to somehow stretch them for them four
- 38:19matches out to a four hour p l E, which I guess kudos to
- 38:25them for that. But who that motherfucker dragged at some points? Say you?
- 38:32Obviously the Royal Rumble kicked off with the Women's Royal Rumble match, and
- 38:43the first two that we saw come out were in fact, I forgot who
- 38:49the number one was. Number one was Italia. That's remember about it.
- 38:57Yeah, are you will be easily forgettable because I remember that. I cracked
- 39:00about it. When she came out. I was like, oh, yep,
- 39:04makes sense to go ahead and getting to tell you out the way because
- 39:06everybody know damn well, she ain't winning shit, so let's just gonna get
- 39:08her out the way. Now. It's gonna gostance and make it to the
- 39:12final four, right right, right, and then with the number two entrant,
- 39:19we got our first uh big pop of the night with the return of
- 39:23Naomi, which I was I love the fact that she got such a warm
- 39:30reception from the WWE universe and that the audience really welcomed her back. You
- 39:34could see, you can see in her face that you know, it really
- 39:37hit her excuse me, really hit her an emotional spot. And yeah,
- 39:42I loved it because given the way they exited, and I don't I have
- 39:46not forgotten how people talked about them at the time when they walked out on
- 39:52WWE. It was not all positive. Most of it was not positive at
- 39:57all, and yet a lot of people people so they came right soon she
- 40:00came back, seemed to have forgotten all about that, which I'm happy for
- 40:04because she deserves it. Not mean I helped grudges, God damn it.
- 40:08I remember you left us, you walked out on us. You and Sasha,
- 40:13you took me who said that should be one or two so she could
- 40:15do our entrance. Yo, that was a great idea, like uh,
- 40:21you know, having a return returning star, you know, with such a
- 40:24great entrance to like being a number two entrant, like that's awesome. And
- 40:30uh you know, you know, I'm just gonna step in real quick.
- 40:34Here is to say, like she went the distance, like time wise,
- 40:36she went very long, and you know that's great for for somebody making a
- 40:40return like that. You know, I always think having uh, the first
- 40:45like three or four people who come out who you know, I always think
- 40:52one of those people should like go the distance of the match, you know.
- 40:54And she was in there for like an hour and two minutes, like,
- 40:58oh yeah, she had you had a good, strong run, which
- 41:00is good for her returning. Like you know, it shows that they could
- 41:06weren't just going for the quick, cheap pop of oh this person's back,
- 41:09all right, and I get out of the way so we can move on
- 41:12to what we want to do. Like they let her have a strong enough
- 41:14showing to you know, easily re establish her with the audience that re established
- 41:17her as a as a viable competitor on the women's rosters. Yea, yeah,
- 41:22I mean that's great now. But the record, these records mean nothing
- 41:25if we're constantly breaking them. Also, you know, like last year we
- 41:30got we got the you know length most time in the Rumble and number two
- 41:35in Live and then we got number one and number two again this year,
- 41:37Like is somebody gonna go for an hour fifteen next? You know, like
- 41:42where does it end? Where it ends ends when we have a competitor answered
- 41:50number one at the women's rumble, win that and then come back in and
- 41:54stay out there in the number one in the men's Rumble, and when that
- 41:58one's new. Am Yeah, the belts. Everybody's got to have a record,
- 42:07right if if you can't win a title, you gotta get a record
- 42:09of some kind. Uh, you know, it's like a trophy for everyone,
- 42:14it is. It is kind of ridiculous, Doyle. It's you know,
- 42:16to me, there was only like the certain important ones, like you
- 42:22know, the longest time wasn't really a big deal to me. You know,
- 42:27I think, uh, this year, putting the the time on the
- 42:31side though, like they put the little clock on the side, showed how
- 42:35long some of these people were in. That was kind of cool. I
- 42:37did like that. I like that too, But you know, before it's
- 42:42just it never mattered to me, like how long certain people were in.
- 42:45Like you know, at one point, I remember the rumble that Raymond Stereo
- 42:51one. It's like, oh, he's been in the mass for for sixty
- 42:53mideats and I was like, yeah, okay, I'm like, but he's
- 43:00probably like laying down for like thirty of those sixty minutes, Like you know
- 43:04what I mean, like pay for all sixty minutes? Yeah, yeah,
- 43:07you know what I mean. Like it's like I saw him laying down a
- 43:10lot, or like you'll have like a wrestler who's you know, been in
- 43:15this master for so long, but like, yeah, didn't they roll out
- 43:16under the ropes and disappear for like twenty minutes Like I've seen that too.
- 43:22Like No, those kind of things don't matter to me. You know what
- 43:24I did, like though, it is eliminations, like who got like because
- 43:29remember like when Kine held like for the longest time the he had like eleven
- 43:32eliminations. He held that record for like so long, but you know it
- 43:37was this weird like he a guy who had so many eliminations just never ever
- 43:40won the Rumble. Uh you know, then every couple of years they would
- 43:45just up it with another guy. It was Bronze Strowman, I think had
- 43:50like a bunch of eliminations. One year, I think he broke Kane's record,
- 43:55but I guess consecutive wins and like, you know, that's another record.
- 44:00I guess I could care about is he's like when stone Cold want him
- 44:04back to back and now we have somebody else who want him back to back.
- 44:08Yeah, but the back to back thing, he'sn't even that big of
- 44:12a deal. The only thing that Stone Cold could really stake his claim on
- 44:15is that he's the only three time winner. Yes, as far as back
- 44:17to backs, you know, there were a couple that have happened. I
- 44:21mean, Hogan was the back to back before stone Cold. Stone Cold has
- 44:23been back to back and then now yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah,
- 44:31continue on, uh nail me so yeah, yeah, Like I said,
- 44:35nail me obviously got her good, Uh got the warm reception. Then,
- 44:39of course at number three we found out why Bailey looked so sad when she
- 44:45pulled her number on smack Down the night before, because she was number three.
- 44:49It had to come out there. Yeah, and I'm so sure they
- 44:52weren't gonna do somebody being in there for over an hour again, I was
- 44:57like, damn, I guess who're all wrong about Bai Yeah. Yeah,
- 45:02But you know, on the subject of that, you could argue that it's
- 45:05a bit of the pendulum swinging the opposite way, because there was a street
- 45:09for a while where the person would come in at number thirty and win the
- 45:15rumble, and you know, people never really responded well to that, like
- 45:20oh, the glass guy comes in and just cleans up a couple of people
- 45:23and he wins the rumbles, you know year like Cody did last year.
- 45:29Lester's done it before, Sena's done it. So you know, if I
- 45:32got to choose my winner, I'd much rather have my winner from somewhere early
- 45:37or the middle of the rumble more Bailey. I want the record clear on
- 45:40that. Oh yes, absolutely, I think to Like looking at the booking
- 45:45of the entrance numbers, you know, it makes me think like, okay,
- 45:50they put Nailmi and Bailey in there for a long like over an hour.
- 45:55It makes me think, okay, they chose two really good veterans,
- 46:00veterans who could be in there to help carry some of the younger talent that's
- 46:04in the rumble. We littered later with just you know, other talent,
- 46:08just other Yeah, you know, if you if you want, if you
- 46:10pay attention, Bailey took about twelve people's finishers, Like when when people entered
- 46:19and went on their little entrance rampage. Bailey was always one of the people.
- 46:23Yeah, you know, it's taking it for for the you know,
- 46:29for the team. Yeah, for the team. I guess you could say
- 46:31she also had like seven eliminations, like more than anybody, like, you
- 46:37know, not nobody else came close to what Bailey did in this rumble.
- 46:42But yeah, and then and then I was gonna say, then, you
- 46:49know, we're gonna kind of bog down here, and then you know,
- 46:52it's kind of like a roller coaster ride of entrance, but you go for
- 46:55it. So yeah, then I'm see. The next noteworthy entrant we saw
- 47:02was at number five when we got the TNA Knockouts World Champion Jordan Gracie entering
- 47:10at number five. Now, obviously this isn't unprecedented. We saw Mickey James
- 47:15come in when she was the Knockouts champion was it last year or year before
- 47:21last, So this isn't unprecedented. But it's still nice to see WWE reaching
- 47:25outside of the company and bringing other stars in and having them, you know,
- 47:30be able to participate and get some shine on a larger platform. I
- 47:35think, to me, what was most noteworthy about it is how long she
- 47:40lasted in the rumble because not only did she just come in for a brief
- 47:45and you know, get the nice pop and then all right, we're done
- 47:46with you bybe No, she showed in, She got in there, showed
- 47:51out, got to really shine, look great in there, and lasted for
- 47:55a good length of time in the rumble. She had a arkable showing,
- 48:00which again I think is deserved, and one shows respect to her as a
- 48:07world champion. You know, it's it would be kind of shitty if you
- 48:10had somebody come in as the world champion of another corps, of another company,
- 48:16but you basically just jobbed them out and like, yeah, well she
- 48:21looked good, but you know how many eliminations she had. Yeah, yeah,
- 48:29they managed to make her look great without her really going over anybody,
- 48:35which is a good ballance, which I think was a good ballans and I'm
- 48:37pretty sure it was probably something that was negotiating a deal, like they probably
- 48:43went back and forth like does she get to eliminated nobody anybody? No,
- 48:45we're not going to let her eliminate anybody, but we'll let her be in
- 48:47the match for you know, forty five minutes or something. She was.
- 48:52I hope we get more of this of crossover promotions like this. You know,
- 48:57WW is always one to know we're not we're not gonna d that,
- 49:01We're not going to go through the quote unquote forbidden door. Yeah, I
- 49:07mean I really love the idea. Yeah, I mean, like any wrestler
- 49:12could show a big name like that, you know, and like it shows
- 49:17how sought after a chance at the w WE Championship is a different outside company
- 49:24want to get in on it. You know, I'd rather see somebody from
- 49:28TNA or Mexico or Japan or whatever that you know, the Boogeyman or Pat
- 49:32McAfee. Yeah, you know, somebody from from somebody who's like a rising
- 49:37star in the ND scene or something like that, or like you said,
- 49:40yeah, somebody from international, somebody from Japan or something like that coming over
- 49:45and being a part of the Rumble. Yeah, shows how prestigious it is.
- 49:50Yeah, it elevates the Rumble and then obviously gives them other people a
- 49:53chance to shign because it's like like you said, everybody from around the world
- 49:58is coming in for this event. It can only make the Rumble seem more
- 50:00special and for something that's been going on for over thirty years now, you
- 50:07know, Yeah, it's still something that holds everybody's interest. But I think
- 50:12we've said it before, it could use a bit of a shot of the
- 50:15arm or something that kind of helps spice it up. And yeah, that
- 50:17bringing international stars or people outside of WWE into it is one way to do
- 50:23that. Yeah, obviously they can't go too far with it because they need
- 50:27to shine and you know, showcase their own roster as well. But I'd
- 50:30be okay with like, you know, twenty five participants from WWE and the
- 50:36other five b from outside the WWE each year. Yeah, I mean,
- 50:39like, how do you tweak something a gimmick match has been the same roughly
- 50:45for thirty plus years. I mean when we add the women's rumble, that
- 50:49was basically it, like, so this is this is the way that they
- 50:54found to tweak this, and it before they didn't afford man rumble once it
- 51:00was too fucking long, too long. When we had the when we had
- 51:05Mickey James come before with her title, it was nice, like nice start
- 51:10to this because we were already familiar with Mickey James as been a former employee
- 51:15of the company. So having somebody like this who I was like, oh,
- 51:19who's this, and you know, even my girlfriend was the same,
- 51:22like, we don't know who this girl is, so and seeing her,
- 51:25you know, spar with like Bianca bel Air and then even like, gosh,
- 51:30she took that nasty elimination from bel Air. That was awesome. That
- 51:35was awesome. But like I was like, okay, like maybe we'll see
- 51:37her come back and do a match. Maybe, you know, we'll see
- 51:43one of our stars go to Impact Wrestling for go back to TNA for a
- 51:47match. That'd be cool too, you know, go ahead, you can
- 51:52take it for the night. We don't need her, so yeah, I
- 51:58mean, if it's somebody like yeah or on the card, that's sure.
- 52:01But I think I've seen a lot of people, yeah, clamoring for a
- 52:05Bianca Bellair Jordan Grace match, which to me, I get. I think
- 52:13the only winners in that would be the fans. I really don't know how
- 52:20much that would benefit either WWE or TNA, because I don't know if it
- 52:25looks good for TNA for them to send their wrestler to WWE to basically get
- 52:30smoked by the WWE star, and I don't and WWE's damn sure not gonna
- 52:37let somebody else come in and beat one of their stars, like they're not
- 52:43gonna bring Jordan Gracy in and let her beat Bianca bell Air in a match.
- 52:47And I don't know if it does any good to have Jordan Gracie come
- 52:51in there and lose to Bianca. I mean it, I guess it'd be
- 52:55okay for cross promotional if it was like a non title match, I guess
- 53:00you could get by with it. Some people were talking about how making the
- 53:02match for the title like that makes zero sense at all, because what the
- 53:07hell sense doesn't make for Bianca to win a TNA title NWWE and you again,
- 53:15you're not gonna have her come in defending a TNA title at AWWE event
- 53:21and beating one of WWE's top stars. That makes zero sense. So I
- 53:25mean, if you did it as a cross promotional exhibition, then I could
- 53:29see I guess it being okay and it being cool, especially for WrestleMania,
- 53:35and given that Bianca doesn't appear to have any other program going at this moment
- 53:38unless she unless they're planning something with somebody else. But I think that's about
- 53:45as the best I could see as far as any kind of cross promotion thing
- 53:51like that. And if you did it that way. I'm pretty sure TNA
- 53:54would probably want something on their end too, Like, Okay, we're sitting
- 53:59our person to help out your WrestleMania pay per view, then send somebody down
- 54:06here for us. Well, I mean, you get you do have a
- 54:08lot of people on the roster with with some you know, deep t NA
- 54:13ties you know in Vegas started there or was there for a while any rate.
- 54:17And on the men's side you got a j lastly Drew. Uh yeah,
- 54:22but I'm pretty sure they're gonna want somebody of some of a of a
- 54:24certain caliber, which I'm I'm thinking if it would be just on the women's
- 54:30side obviously. Yeah, on the men's side, yeah, you let Jordan
- 54:35Gracie beat somebody and uh, you know a j says all lose to whoever
- 54:39you know something. I'm sure that's how it would work. Hey Doyle,
- 54:45did you see uh the excessive amount of hair extensions, Holy crab the Red
- 54:52side, like their hands full of grabbing all the fake hair and eyelashes,
- 54:58and it was ridiculous. Gosh, who comes out next? JH. Well
- 55:05only the next noteworthy entrance were Oscar and Bianca bell Layer. Oscar came in
- 55:09at what was at number seven. Bianca be Lair came in at number ten,
- 55:16so they were most noteworthy. So I I's gonna say somewhere around here,
- 55:22Cole says, we've never had two winners. Yes, we have ninety
- 55:28four Brett Hart and Lex Little right, really and cold had a bad night,
- 55:35he said. A couple of weird things, yeah, some and some
- 55:37filler wrestlers we had between that, We had Indy Hartwell, Ivy Nile and
- 55:42Katana Chance. We had some fun spots though. She had two women corner
- 55:49and climbed the turnbuckle, was punching both of them and like a like a
- 55:53lion salt kind of move springboard on the three wrestlers. That was pretty cool.
- 56:00She had good spots. She only had one elimination and that was Jordan
- 56:04Grace, but she uh one, oh yeah, it was the hell Yeah.
- 56:09She was in there for like forty seven minutes on the outside on the
- 56:13apron. But like with Bianca and there she told a story and we're kind
- 56:19of like we saw a staredown between her and teena women's champion that was there.
- 56:24We got some vibes there and then we see later on her and another
- 56:29wrestler surprise entrant. I mean they have a moment. I mean, you
- 56:34know, she did, she was she was given, she made she made
- 56:38good with it. Yeah, she made most of her time in the Rumble
- 56:42and you know, came out didn't come off looking we she came out looking
- 56:45as a strong, viable contender that she should be. And just to rewind
- 56:49back a little bit, one of my other favorite moments that I liked from
- 56:52earlier in the Rumble was when Jordan Gracie came out and her and Naomi embraced
- 56:59in the ring and they immediately got the fighting. Oh, that was another
- 57:02moment that I loved. Obviously. The last match was with George Bracy where
- 57:07she dropped the TNA title tour. So it was nice to seeing them to
- 57:10like see each other have a genuine embrace and then immediately like pick up where
- 57:15they left off and started fighting. Yeah, I forgot about that, and
- 57:20you know, well, I mean I'm sure you guys caught it too.
- 57:23While they got Oscar coming out and Kyrie saying, uh, it didn't look
- 57:30like Bailey was too happy to have him out there, like the plan was.
- 57:35Yeah, they didn't explain commentary. They noted it, but didn't say
- 57:37yeah, but look, so we could kind of Bailey the way with her
- 57:43facial expressions is that we kind of tell the story like, hey, like
- 57:47you guys weren't supposed to come out. That wasn't the plan, Like it
- 57:50was supposed to be just me, and then it's like, okay, well
- 57:52we'll try to work together. And then it seems like, you know,
- 57:58they eliminate. H. I don't really eliminate. I will say though,
- 58:05if that was the story, that makes no sense. Yeh, because again,
- 58:09all the women on the roster, why would you not think Oscar and
- 58:14Kyrie Saying would be a part of the rumble. Obviously they're going to be
- 58:17a part of the rumble. Anything. What I thought was going to be
- 58:20part of the story, I thought we were going to see some portrayal because
- 58:22when Kyrie Saying and Oscar at points in the match were on the verge of
- 58:28getting it eliminated, who was the person that was always coming to save them?
- 58:30It was Bailey. Yeah, I saw Billy Kings. She saved them
- 58:35from elimination on multiple occasions throughout the match, similar to what we saw back
- 58:39a War Games when she broke up the pens on all of them. At
- 58:45one point in the match, when one of them was about to get pinned,
- 58:47it was again Bailey making the save. And then she's doing the same
- 58:51thing here in the rumble. That made me think for a second that she
- 58:53was gonna lose, because I was thinking they're setting it up that Okay,
- 58:57she's saving everybody else, but when she's on the verge of getting eliminated,
- 59:00she's gonna get left hanging and she's gonna end up getting tossed out. And
- 59:05then, like Kyrie saying, and Oscar would still be in the ring and
- 59:07just be like, oh will and I thought that was gonna or they might
- 59:12end up eliminating her themselves, and the betrayal was gonna happen in the match,
- 59:15which obviously they didn't, and we just the match kind of lulled for
- 59:21I won't say lolled, but nothing of significance happened for a while until Nia
- 59:27Jackson came in at nineteen and then we started seeing some people get about the
- 59:30paint. Nia jacks came in there and started tossing folks out left and right,
- 59:37whittling down the ring because at that point the ring had started to get
- 59:39pretty crowded because nobody was really being eliminated. And then we got Becky Lynch
- 59:45at twenty one, which came to a nice good pop, and then the
- 59:51most unexpected entrance of the entire night at number twenty four. Alba Fire Nope
- 1:00:01are Truth came in at number twenty four in the Rumble? God? That
- 1:00:08was great. It was a good segment. So what was cold? Cole
- 1:00:14was going crazy about the holiday antlers? What the hell was I don't fucking
- 1:00:19understand that ship cold being fucking weird? Yeah, True Truth is uh becoming
- 1:00:24known for his royal rumble antics? Right? Didn't he a ladder one year
- 1:00:30and and climate expecting to see a briefcase or whatever everyone else he's done.
- 1:00:36I feel like he's done other shenanigans. I'm sure he's done other things.
- 1:00:43But now now that we don't have, you know, KOFE doing his little
- 1:00:47save himself antics anymore good, that'll put a spotlight on, you know,
- 1:00:52the ship that our Truth does going forward? Yeah, backtrack a little bit,
- 1:00:59uh, Cole again? Uh, when Maxine dupri came out, he
- 1:01:01said heavily improved Maxine Dupris, who then immediately botched like three moves in a
- 1:01:07row. That was good. When when when Cole calls Piper, nib and
- 1:01:15Nia and then Nia comes out like next, that's kind of weird. Uh,
- 1:01:21Chelsea Green when she comes out, Cole says, uh, her attire
- 1:01:24is what was the word he used, uh interesting or something? It was
- 1:01:30a Pride flag and uh, you know, and I saw an interview with
- 1:01:34her where she was like, yeah, I definitely was wearing a Pride flag
- 1:01:37because I was in Florida and I wanted people to see it in the specific
- 1:01:42because she's like I know exactly where I was, and you know, like
- 1:01:45I knew that's gonna be on social media five minutes later. Uh, so
- 1:01:49good on her for that. Yeah, she was one of the stars of
- 1:01:54this royal rumble for me. Chelsea Green, Holy shit, is she funny?
- 1:01:59Uh she gets jumped out and Piper catches her and pretends to drop her.
- 1:02:04It was fucking great. And then she gets caught in the middle of
- 1:02:06a fucking hoss fight between Nia and Piper and she just just gets destroyed.
- 1:02:13But she stayed in there for like, uh, I don't know, fifteen
- 1:02:16minutes or so. I don't think she had any eliminations. But no,
- 1:02:22why was she funny. Yeah, you're right. That was one of the
- 1:02:24better spots of the rumble, was just Chelsea just getting caught up in the
- 1:02:29middle of other people's fights and just getting absolutely wrecked being eliminated. Yeah,
- 1:02:35she sold it great, Like you know, I think it also picked up
- 1:02:42a little bit. Well yeah, I mean, like what we had shot.
- 1:02:46Oh I don't know if you guys saw when Shotzi grew a hair back
- 1:02:50out. It's green again. Yeah, it's grown out, grown out some
- 1:02:53obviously since she shaved, it continued wing to grow. They also did a
- 1:02:58good job I think booking like Naya, It's look pretty damn strong in this
- 1:03:01rumble. Were like just like nobody could take her out. You know,
- 1:03:06she had like seven other women like trying to eliminate her, and she's just
- 1:03:10booking it as the strongest one in the rumble. I mean, even like
- 1:03:14bigger women like Piper and Evan couldn't do nothing to her. And uh,
- 1:03:19you know. Then then they had we had Becky Lynch come out, so
- 1:03:22like, yeah, it was like it was refreshing at twenty one. I
- 1:03:24think Becky, yeah, yeah, you're right. Oh yeah, I was
- 1:03:30say, yeah, you're right. Nia was looking totally dominant in that match
- 1:03:34because until number twenty eight came out. Oh dude, like we got the
- 1:03:37moment that we were all wondering if it was gonna happen and looking forward to
- 1:03:43wet debut of j Cargill and w W E and boy did she have a
- 1:03:51daybu If you want to teach somebody like a big deal and then sell it
- 1:03:55right from the jump, this is how you fucking did it. She came
- 1:04:00out to a massive pop, and Camra immediately went to Nia Jacks reacting to
- 1:04:06it, and then she got in that ring and fucking treated Nia Jack's light
- 1:04:12light work. Dude. She picked up Niajacks like she was nothing. She
- 1:04:16wait, dude, I was like, like the way she did it,
- 1:04:19I was like, holy shit, because there was no struggle. It wasn't
- 1:04:24a slow thing. It was a fast one. Not one squad shouldn't squad,
- 1:04:31dude. I was. I was very impressed because I like it would
- 1:04:38come in and because I've seen other women you know, lift Naya or you
- 1:04:44know, but like not like that, not like that. And I think,
- 1:04:48you know, I did hear that she may have had issues like remembering
- 1:04:54spots. You know, there was an issue backstage about oh she was missing
- 1:04:58spots. But I'm like, well, first off, I'm like, how
- 1:05:00many people have to go and do a Royal Rumble as their first fucking match.
- 1:05:05Of course it's gonna be difficult. You know, that's a lot of
- 1:05:09shit to remember for your first fucking match on TV for this company, like
- 1:05:15and on that you know, that big of a stage exactly, and like
- 1:05:19you're messing. You're you're in the ring with people you're not familiar with,
- 1:05:24like a lot of veterans in there, and it's not like one or two
- 1:05:27people. You're talking like seven eight people in the ring, and you gotta
- 1:05:31remember. I totally get it. So like I was just like, did
- 1:05:35she ever do a Battle Royal in a W That's the thing, Like I
- 1:05:39was thinking too. It's like I don't think so. I don't think so
- 1:05:41either, So it's like, cut her some fucking slack. I kind of
- 1:05:45rolled my eyes when I saw that. I was like, geez, let
- 1:05:47me shut the fuck up. I'm like, I mean, I'll say this,
- 1:05:50if she did miss a spot, I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell
- 1:05:54either. She looked comfortable in that ring. I'm not saying she looked like
- 1:05:59a you know, a seasoned veteran. But she looked comfortable. She looked
- 1:06:02like she knew what she was doing. The moments that she had she looked
- 1:06:05strong, like I said, squatting freaking niagast like nothing, dumping her outside,
- 1:06:11treating her like light work, working with other people. She looked good
- 1:06:15in that ring, And I think that was it. Absolutely, absolutely for
- 1:06:21that debut you ever say for for a debut like that, you could not
- 1:06:29have asked for anything better. She had about as good of a debut as
- 1:06:33you could possibly have for a star of her caliber in WWE, and she
- 1:06:41got what was probably the spot of the or the not won't say the spot,
- 1:06:44but the moment of the entire match, the one that I've seen be
- 1:06:46shared more than anything else in the entire women's world. Rumblin arguably shared more
- 1:06:53than anything on this whole damn pl was the moment where she is bench pressing
- 1:06:58what was Becky Lynch and Biaka is bench pressing. I think it was Ivy
- 1:07:03now with somebody, and then they turn around to realize they're both doing the
- 1:07:09same thing, and then walked to each towards each other drop then dropped the
- 1:07:15people behind them then have that stare, that stare down and you saw the
- 1:07:19crowd absolutely rupt like let's go. I think yeah, with the moment of
- 1:07:25the that was the moment of the match. Yeah, it was right.
- 1:07:30Was not for her, and you know, yeah, like you said,
- 1:07:33they did a great job teasing her future, you know, Naya with Becky,
- 1:07:38with Bailey, with Naomi of course, uh you know yeah, I
- 1:07:42mean yeah, so many moving parts. It's gotta be tough, you know.
- 1:07:46And she's kind of still has like a deliberateness a little bit, if
- 1:07:49that's a word. But I mean I think they used her pretty much perfectly.
- 1:07:56You know, she was dominant without doing too much and allmately. In
- 1:08:00the end, she gets out maneuvered by two more experienced wrestlers, you know,
- 1:08:03thirty Live Morgan. Uh you know, welcome yeah, welcome back.
- 1:08:12Like I kinda I kind of expected her to be thirty, Like I was
- 1:08:15like, Okay, well she hasn't come out yet, like she's it's not
- 1:08:19it's not gonna be anybody else, It's going to be her. So you
- 1:08:23know, she she was only in for like six and a half minutes,
- 1:08:26but she eliminated two people, so and one of them was Jade, so
- 1:08:33Jade cargile, so you know, good on you like. But I'd say
- 1:08:40that this this rumble was pretty damn good for women's rumble. I mean I
- 1:08:45liked it. I I totally marked out when Jade came out. I was
- 1:08:47just like you fucking Mark Yep marked out. Oh yeah, I agree,
- 1:08:56this was This was a good rumble. Obviously Bailey came out on top.
- 1:08:59I think the finish was a little bit It was fitting for Bailey as far
- 1:09:05as her character in terms of, you know, seeing other people on the
- 1:09:11version of elimination and her pouncing at the moment to take out two people for
- 1:09:15the win. Obviously that's in character for her. I think personally, I
- 1:09:19would have rather, I would have liked it more to see it come down
- 1:09:23to a one on one and have her scrap it out with somebody for the
- 1:09:27last spot. But I'm okay with it. That was like kind of exactly
- 1:09:30how it ended last year on the Aeah. Yeah, last year it came
- 1:09:34down to well, no, they did. They did do it like a
- 1:09:36somewhat quicker elimination last year because I think what Ria and Live they it was
- 1:09:44real live in Oscar, right with the final three apron. Yeah, but
- 1:09:49I think last year's was executed a bit better because it was all three of
- 1:09:53them on the apron pretty much just trading blows and you know, it could
- 1:09:59have been arguing. I mean, we kind of knew was gonna win,
- 1:10:00but they pretty much played it out as if any one of them could go.
- 1:10:04And then you know, they had the spot with Oscar blinding Live and
- 1:10:09Live is still fighting blind but managed to I think eliminate Oscar and then almost
- 1:10:14got Lived out until Live man, I mean almost got Ria out and then
- 1:10:17Ria managed to you know, freaking flip her out. So I think last
- 1:10:21year's finale was executed better than this year's. This year's was just kind of
- 1:10:27pretty standard fare of okay, two people hanging on and then here comes Bailey
- 1:10:33out, go to both of you and that's it. Well, I like
- 1:10:41that. I like the shot of Jade, Live, Tiffany, and Bianca
- 1:10:45kind of all on the outside watching Bailey celebrate. Yeah, he was there
- 1:10:50too. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that's five six of the elimination
- 1:10:56chamber. But yeah, that's absolutely the right call and like one of the
- 1:11:00only accolades she didn't have right, she was the first Grand Slam champion.
- 1:11:05I think she's won money in the bank. Uh, what else is there?
- 1:11:11I guess they've only done Queen of the Ring a handful of times.
- 1:11:15Yeah, I don't think she's won that, but I mean anything left for
- 1:11:18is what's possibly coming her way now, which is main eventing WrestleMania, depending
- 1:11:25on you know, how they booked the card. Yep, you know,
- 1:11:28I think she's got to be it's gotta be Io right, and then it's
- 1:11:33just a teens right, it has to be. Yeah, I think almost
- 1:11:38certainly. I think they've been teasing that or leaning that way for far too
- 1:11:43long of you know, Bailey getting kicked out of damage control or what have
- 1:11:48you. Granted, they've done their best of trying to, you know,
- 1:11:54send people in the opposite direction with Bailey talking about unchallenging and after this,
- 1:11:59I'm going after red, damaged, golden controlling, YadA, YadA, YadA.
- 1:12:02But I think they may have seemingly planted to see this past Monday,
- 1:12:06when Bailey's given her speech about winning and then Riha comes out to shut that
- 1:12:14down, and then Naya immediately shuts that down by whooping Rhea's ass. In
- 1:12:18the ring and getting up in Bailey's face, to which Bailey immediately kind of
- 1:12:24cowered like, yeah, you know, I cool, cool, I ain't
- 1:12:28doing shit. I make my decision Friday, and then they automatically show the
- 1:12:30shot of EO outside the ring like, ho, little bitch, what you
- 1:12:33talking about? Oh? We had a plan here. Yeah. So over
- 1:12:39I think we're gonna see something probably go down this Friday on SmackDown. Gonna
- 1:12:43it's gonna be like Batista of evolution. Ye oh yeah, the bean has
- 1:12:48been made already. So overall, I think this I would give this like
- 1:12:53a four and a half out of five. Like for me, I like
- 1:12:57it had it had a bunch of raw bunch, just smack down, good
- 1:13:00mixture. Both. We had two n xt UH superstars, we had a
- 1:13:08teen a great did a litter of Tiffany Stratton luck by the way, fantastic.
- 1:13:15Oh yeah, she had definitely a strong showing in the Rumbo light.
- 1:13:18I think anybody who's seen her form knows that, Yeah, Tiffany can absolutely
- 1:13:24hold her own in with anybody on the main roster at this point in time.
- 1:13:29She just needs more development of her character itself. But in the ring,
- 1:13:32oh no, there's nothing a question about Tiffany Stratten in the ring,
- 1:13:35and I think once more people get to see eyes on her, she's gonna
- 1:13:41be and I'm gonna say this now, she'll eventually be in the debate for
- 1:13:45best moon salt ever in wrestling. Yeah. Anybody who's seen her her moon
- 1:13:51salt, that thing is nice, flawless. I ain't seen the moosalt that
- 1:13:58nice since probably Kurding. What would you rate this match out of five stars?
- 1:14:05I go I'd say four out of five. I think it was a
- 1:14:11good It was a good rumble. It had a, like I said,
- 1:14:14good strong moments like Jordan Gracie had a strong showing. Jay Cargill's debut was
- 1:14:18excellent. You know, Nia Jack's got to look strong without and you know,
- 1:14:23without you know, completely squashing anybody. We got good comedy bits from
- 1:14:29our Truth and Chelsea Green. Yeah, right like that middle of it.
- 1:14:35Yeah. The only thing that only part where it kind of fell flat for
- 1:14:40the room Women's rumble fell flat for me was just to finish. I thought
- 1:14:43the finish was a little bit weak, But other than that, I thought
- 1:14:45this was it was a great rumble. There you go, Yeah, I
- 1:14:51got go three and three quarter stars on it. I I liked it.
- 1:14:55I liked the match, which we'll get to. It was fun. So
- 1:15:00what do you guys think is next for Jade? Though? Going forward?
- 1:15:03Fun? Right now, she doesn't know where she's going. I think she
- 1:15:09should go to Okay because it looks like it's either Naya or Bianca, right
- 1:15:15those are like the two. Think they should rush to Beyonca from from what
- 1:15:24I've seen her as a tag team exactly. Yes, yeah, I would
- 1:15:29much rather see them paired up and be allies than just being immediate enemies off
- 1:15:33the top. Like no Jade, Jade and and Beyonca versus the Kabuki Warriors
- 1:15:38for the titles and many it might be a pretty nice match, you know,
- 1:15:42that'd be unstoppable. That'd be a badass women's tag team right there.
- 1:15:45And you've got and you've got her in there with three awesome workers sticking help
- 1:15:50you know exactly, Yeah, Because I mean if you make her make them
- 1:15:55adversaries off the top, then you've got nowhere to go. Yeah, like
- 1:16:00that's to be that's reach of hot shot booking. Oh we get the quick
- 1:16:02thing and then then what people wanted. Everybody knows what's gonna happen at some
- 1:16:08point, take your time. How about if it doesn't sound like we're going
- 1:16:13against Sasha, But if we did, what about Bianca and Jade versus Sasha
- 1:16:18and Naomi for the titles they never lost? Mmm, that'd be bad.
- 1:16:24That could be a hell of a few. Like, there's plenty of places
- 1:16:27you can go with with them being paired up, like paired up together.
- 1:16:31Plus that allows you to keep Bianca involved in something prominent without being constantly around
- 1:16:38the title picture and constantly you know, either dominating by holding the title or
- 1:16:45losing constant challenges. And you can still trot her out to all the stuff
- 1:16:50you're trotting her out to, uh with helse on her shoulder, you know,
- 1:16:55the two of them would look walking her out like yeah, man as
- 1:17:00yep. That would be I would all for that. If you're gonna put
- 1:17:04them on the on the same show, if not for the If not that,
- 1:17:10then well no I would. That would be my first joint. I
- 1:17:14would say, If not that, then you can have one on WRAW one
- 1:17:15on SmackDown. They both just kind of doing their thing, dominating, kind
- 1:17:20of checking each other like I see you over there, I see you two
- 1:17:24girl and then admiring each other from afar before they eventually, you know,
- 1:17:30come to a head. But I think i'd rather see them be directly paired
- 1:17:35up together and it's stable with the street profits and Bobby last year. Now,
- 1:17:43how about how do you guys feel about the crowd? It tounded dead
- 1:17:46and ship except for in certain spots on TV. I've heard reports that it
- 1:17:51was not that way in person, but I don't know if the crowd was
- 1:17:56miked up weird or what. It did seem like the pops, like you
- 1:18:00could tell they were big pops, but it's like the volume wasn't coming through
- 1:18:04the way you would think. But well, I'm also wondering do we have
- 1:18:08a theme song problem, like one not too long ago. Oh you mean
- 1:18:15for the pay per view? Yeah, I mean less so in the men's
- 1:18:18match. But I felt like a lot of these women weren't getting reactions because
- 1:18:23nobody knows, Like I don't know what their theme song is, you know
- 1:18:26what I mean? And that was a complaint I saw, and it's so
- 1:18:29true. It's like everybody knew Jay's. Yeah, everybody has like this generic
- 1:18:35fucking rock music, like ever since we got rid of like I think the
- 1:18:42last good one was CFO Money. Once we got rid of of them.
- 1:18:45It's like these theme music has just been generic garbage and it seems like one
- 1:18:53out of every ten will get something good, and it's you know, it's
- 1:18:59hard. It's hard to get a theme music that sticks. And I can
- 1:19:02think of, like, do you guys remember Wade Barrett? For there was
- 1:19:08a time where I felt like Wade Barrett would change his theme music like every
- 1:19:13few weeks. It's just like you just kept changing it because they can never
- 1:19:16find music that worked for Wade Barrett. And it's like every time I would
- 1:19:20hear it, I can never tell you what his theme music is because I
- 1:19:24couldn't remember. It was just not memorable. Time to cook, Yeah,
- 1:19:29yeah, exactly. I get stuff time to yeah, make it catchy,
- 1:19:31like I mean like Shinske and there's the rumble later and he's a heel.
- 1:19:39But yet like they were singing his theme music and they were saying it long
- 1:19:43and loud, so sure, And I think part of that is them not
- 1:19:49really some lack of investment in the women as compared to the men, Like
- 1:19:56yeah, they almost certainly want to give them something. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:20:00with the men, they almost certainly want to give them something that's unique to
- 1:20:03their character, right, that is, you know, a fully formed character,
- 1:20:06whereas a lot of the women, admittedly some of the women don't really
- 1:20:12have don't appear to have as fully formed individual characters like we see on the
- 1:20:16men's side. There are some that obviously have fully developed characters, and those
- 1:20:20are usually the ones that are towards the top of the roster, and they
- 1:20:26all have obviously noteworthy themes that we can immediately recognize. People like Becky and
- 1:20:31Bianca live Morgan, you know, Riha, Charlotte, you know, they
- 1:20:36have those immediately recognizable themes outside of that, yeah, yeah, and yet
- 1:20:43obviously, but people still immediately recognize Jades, which I don't. I'm pretty
- 1:20:50sure that was not her aw theme that they use. I don't know that
- 1:20:54Jade has her own theme that she owns or not. But it seems like
- 1:21:00as soon as she hit I don't know, if it was maybe that people
- 1:21:01saw her before the cameras got to her and that's how the pop came that
- 1:21:06eventually just spread throughout the crowd like a wave. But I don't know,
- 1:21:12I think, yeah, they do need to kind of invest more in some
- 1:21:15of these women's themes and character development as opposed to just putting them out there
- 1:21:21as you know, another wrestler and shorts and boots and a sports bra.
- 1:21:27If you're not wrestling for a championship, you're basically hardly there, you know,
- 1:21:33which brings me to my favorite three words again about the women's division made
- 1:21:39car title speaking titles. That brings us to the next match, which was
- 1:21:51Roman Reigns defending the undisputed WWE Universal Championship of Intergalactic Purpos against Randy Orton,
- 1:22:02AJ Styles and l A. Knight in a fatal four way match. Yeah,
- 1:22:09Roman one, But how much of that was entrance? God, this
- 1:22:23is I don't know. That's just my opinion is like the first like ten
- 1:22:27minutes was all entrance, and I don't know, I don't know if that
- 1:22:31was counted. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, l A.
- 1:22:35Knight has the slim Gym sponsorship, so you know they had to they
- 1:22:38had to get that crossover in LA Night got his specialized slim Gym entrance,
- 1:22:45and Yeah, the match started off, they all jumped on Rains started whooping
- 1:22:48him, then paired off in their own fights. They fight, they fight,
- 1:22:51they continue, they continue enter the Bloodline, well specifically Solo, who
- 1:22:57comes out there, starts wrecking people and then ultimately rains hit the spear on.
- 1:23:03Styles gets the pin retains the title. Pretty much went exactly as we
- 1:23:10all expected it to go, because Roman Reigns was not dropping this ship to
- 1:23:15none of them three motherfuckers. So the only question to be asked really is
- 1:23:19what's next for the other three. We know what's next for Roman. He's
- 1:23:25adding the WrestleMania to defend against probably one of two people t b D.
- 1:23:31What the hell are Randy, l aj and l A gonna do? That's
- 1:23:35moving forward fucking question because uh, you know, we do have a mid
- 1:23:42car title that we still don't really have a WrestleMania match book for two mid
- 1:23:48card titles. Really we don't have WrestleMania matches book four. I mean,
- 1:23:53but is that beneath some of these guys, But like, where else do
- 1:23:57they go from here? Like Styles is now a heel, you know,
- 1:24:01Orton's you know, he's on this this this run of coming back so recent,
- 1:24:08you know, and l A. Knight was the guy, the workhorse
- 1:24:11while these guys were gone, and like it was at the peak of his
- 1:24:14popularity right now. Ah. You know it's funny because everybody kind of got
- 1:24:18their their little moment to shine this match, like l A. Knight made
- 1:24:23like the first pen attempt and then you got like styles like right after and
- 1:24:28it's all on Roman too. Uh and then you know, ray Ney Orton
- 1:24:32was given r KOs all around to everybody before you know, Solo interfered,
- 1:24:38which it's it's like fuck, here we go again, Like Solo had to
- 1:24:42interfere, you know, and then he got he got speared through the barricade
- 1:24:45and uh, he almost took out the ring announcer. I don't know if
- 1:24:50you saw how close he was. Yeah, I appreciate that. So yeah,
- 1:24:58he was going like one hundred miles of I was like, damn,
- 1:25:00dude, calm down, like you gotta kill that girl. She's so small.
- 1:25:05Uh And okay, so we did talk about how like, oh,
- 1:25:11was he gonna stack him like he like he did when he fought Daniel Bryan
- 1:25:15and Edge and he did stack him. But like, could you imagine just
- 1:25:19like being ort in We're I don't even know what's more awkward is it being
- 1:25:23Orton the guy at the bottom, being l A. Knight who was draped
- 1:25:26over him for like two and a half minutes, and two and a half
- 1:25:29minutes sounds long. Two and a half minutes does not sound long, But
- 1:25:33when you're draped over another man who's also sweating and no T shirt on,
- 1:25:40it's a little fucking awkward. And I don't care who you are. He
- 1:25:44hadn't draped over, He was just like laying on top of him for like
- 1:25:46the longest time. And then like a J Salas took out you know,
- 1:25:50Roman reigns and then stacked him, which was kind of like, oh,
- 1:25:55I didn't see that coming. And then you know, the the and then
- 1:25:58to go and Romans shoulders aren't even the down yeah, yeah, and he's
- 1:26:02just there for extra weight. Yeah, and the other two just you know,
- 1:26:05kick out. So but uh that that's yeah, I just did we
- 1:26:12Yeah, we all knew Rumman was leaving. And that's a pretty damn good
- 1:26:15question. I don't know where any of these guys go. I would really
- 1:26:18like to see La Knight. Uh, you know, if if we do
- 1:26:23get the Rumble winner versus maybe Rains, I don't we'll talk about that later,
- 1:26:29but like I much rather see that and then maybe La Knight go for
- 1:26:34like a world title win or you know, I I thought of uh,
- 1:26:42because we still have the money in the bank. Briefcase, like, I
- 1:26:45don't know how or why he hasn't cashed in on somebody who's been fucking injured.
- 1:26:53You think that would be the perfect opportunity to cash in on a on
- 1:26:56a world title. With a briefcase is when the guys fuck get injured.
- 1:27:01It could come to the point where that does happen and Damien goes in as
- 1:27:05a heel champion and it's not what we want, but that's what we could
- 1:27:10get. And you have somebody who everybody loves, l A. Knight come
- 1:27:16in and be the the Knight and Shining Armor and take the world title.
- 1:27:23But I mean, who knows at this point. Honestly, you know what,
- 1:27:27I don't see l. A. Knight in the world title picture anytime
- 1:27:31in the immediate future. I think I think he's destined probably for obviously they
- 1:27:39he still needs to maintain his momentum and I think WW still needs to take
- 1:27:43advantage of it while he still has it. But my guess is that he's
- 1:27:46probably destined for a mid card title for at least a little while. Say
- 1:27:54that way, that he is at least a champion. Yeah, I mean
- 1:28:00in the immediate future, I think these three are probably gonna be the three
- 1:28:05of the six entrants in the Elimination Chamber match next month, and then the
- 1:28:10other and the other three will come from Raw probably like you know, it's
- 1:28:15like Jay Usso and some others. I think that that's probably in the immediate
- 1:28:23future. After that, we'll see what the hell A J. N Orton
- 1:28:28have going into WrestleMania. And yeah, I think be surprised to see AJ
- 1:28:32and Randy Wrestler at WrestleMania. Oh yeah, they could very well just have
- 1:28:36a one on one match. Maybe something goes down in the Elimination Chamber that
- 1:28:41puts them on a collision course going into WrestleMania. While La Knights splinches off.
- 1:28:47Yeah yeah, well La splinches off and probably is, like you said,
- 1:28:50destined for Logan Paul for the US title and then he gets his WrestleMania
- 1:28:58moment of becoming a champion. Yep, there you go, man. And
- 1:29:02yeah, that match was only nineteen minutes and thirty seconds after the one hour
- 1:29:08rumble we just had, so it seemed like it was very short. It
- 1:29:13felt very short of a match. Like I said, maybe it's just because
- 1:29:15of the long entrances and the introductions and the blah blah blah blah blah blah
- 1:29:23blah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and if you had any doubt
- 1:29:28that Roman was going to win, I think the fact that it was second
- 1:29:30on the card just sealed the deal. Yeah, because when Roman finally loses,
- 1:29:36it's going to be the last thing that happens on a given show.
- 1:29:40It's not the second match of the evening, you know, even if there's
- 1:29:45only four matches, right, I thought it was kind of crazy that Romans
- 1:29:49never defended in a fatal four way in this whole time he's been champion.
- 1:29:54That was kind of I did not know that stat. And you know how
- 1:29:58much love WW of his multi pertson matches, just found that found that interesting.
- 1:30:05Yeah, another notch under Roman's belt. So following this, we got
- 1:30:13the next match that was not a rumble match, in the form of the
- 1:30:18United States Championship match with Logan Paul defending against Kevin Owens. This is where
- 1:30:25I'm gonna be honest, this is where my long day took its toll because
- 1:30:31I fell asleep in this bucking match. I ain't gonna lie. I fell
- 1:30:36asleep during this match, and when I woke up, there were two people
- 1:30:40in the men's rumble beating the crap out of each other. I had to
- 1:30:44read up on Howard wake up like the beginning of the rumble of the Men's
- 1:30:48are like towards like the end? Oh no, no, it was the
- 1:30:51beginning. It was the beginning. I woke up there were two people in
- 1:30:56the match beating crap at each other, and I was like, I,
- 1:31:00well, I had maybe about a good maybe five to ten seconds of panic
- 1:31:04when I woke up, because I just woke up and I was like,
- 1:31:08holy shit, what the fuck? Oh where am I? I'm looked over
- 1:31:12at the TV and like, oh, fuck, damn, I missed the
- 1:31:15whole damn match. What the hell were we at the rumble? And then
- 1:31:17I'll see the countdown, like, oh, okay, it just started.
- 1:31:20It just started. Oh well, yeah, listen. I was in a
- 1:31:24different time zone and didn't remember that things happen in different times and different time
- 1:31:30zones. So I'm walking around on vacation and I go back to the hotel
- 1:31:33at seven thirty, thinking, oh, yeah, you know, put this
- 1:31:36put this on, blah blah, blah, get ready, and sure enough
- 1:31:41it was half as half of because then it started half an hour before that
- 1:31:45seven eight thirty not seven thirty. Yeah, I mean you weren't the only
- 1:31:51one that had problem. Yeah, you know, I can't say too much
- 1:31:56about this match itself other than I guess apparently, and then there's some controversy
- 1:32:00and Kevin always beat the crap out of Ko out of a Logan Paul after
- 1:32:02the match with something. But yes, can't say much about this. They
- 1:32:08didn't do a great job on commentary explaining it, and like you know what
- 1:32:16happened right U Ko used brass knuckles and the referee saw that they were still
- 1:32:20on Kevin Owen's hand, but commentary didn't tell us was it was the same
- 1:32:26referee from the last match where Logan Paul used the brass knuckles on Raymond Stereo,
- 1:32:31so he was looking for brass knuckles and that's why he was so alerted
- 1:32:34to them. Well nice, because I was just like, oh, look
- 1:32:41of refuse actually doing his job. He like immediately booked out or like kicked
- 1:32:45out one of Logan Paul's buddies who came to help him, which we figured
- 1:32:49it was going to be somebody, a no name person, you know,
- 1:32:55and then he catches Kevin Owens at the Brastucles and he loses by DQ.
- 1:33:00You know, so like Logan Paul gets the save of not being pinned,
- 1:33:06and you know, I guess also Kevin Owens losing but not getting pinned.
- 1:33:13Like I guess it protects both of these guys. But why now is But
- 1:33:18I just heard recently that Logan Paul is now fully signed like a full time
- 1:33:24member of the roster. I heard that as of yesterday, So now I'm
- 1:33:30hoping we see more of him. But unfortunately, this was a snooze of
- 1:33:36a match for me. Yeah, I can see why you fell asleep.
- 1:33:41It sucks. I mean, maybe it's because of like what they had to
- 1:33:45follow, you know, they had to follow. We're talking about a United
- 1:33:48States title match, having to follow the undisputed ww Universal Championship match, and
- 1:33:56then also having a men's or rumble match after this. It's like everybody's kind
- 1:34:00of like, alright, I thought that having if they were having the four
- 1:34:05way earlier, it meant that we might get some of those guys in the
- 1:34:09rumble, But I guess that went out the window. Yeah, I don't
- 1:34:12understand why the why that match wasn't second yeou booked it like that? Yeah,
- 1:34:17I agree, But if they weren't use the guys again, why why
- 1:34:23not have them go on third? That makes Yeah? Yeah, get the
- 1:34:27US title match out the way and then do though. Yeah, I thought
- 1:34:30they did a decent job selling Ko's hand injury which is a fade injury,
- 1:34:36but his foot apparent his foot apparently is really broken in real life, but
- 1:34:42they're not gonna but he has a fake broken hand. Yeah, w W
- 1:34:48logic for you. Yeahs the real injury, but sell the hell out of
- 1:34:54this fake one. Yeah. So I'm ready to move on to the Men's
- 1:34:58Rumble. Yeah, up our main event, the Men's Royal Rumble match started
- 1:35:04off as our number one entrant main event, Jay Usso and number two the
- 1:35:14husband of the number two entrant in the Women's Royal Rumble, that being Jay's
- 1:35:20brother Jimmy fail Dad. Yeah, Seth and Becky were both number fifteen last
- 1:35:30year. It's very cute, very gotta gotta love numerology. Yeah. I
- 1:35:35thought that was awesome though, because like the face that Jay made when Jimmy's
- 1:35:42music fucking hit, Ah, it was priceless. He just looked over so
- 1:35:45like, man, you gotta be shitting me, you know, like it
- 1:35:53was good because we got the vibes of like what we could have at WrestleMania.
- 1:35:58There's so many wonderful memes came out, and I think my favorite one
- 1:36:01is the comparison of the end of Into the Spidery Verse with Ralis seeing himself
- 1:36:10fucking perfect. Here's the thing, nothing about Jimmy's character makes any fucking sense.
- 1:36:18Jimmy, but why is Jimmy madd at Jay? It makes no sense.
- 1:36:21Jimmy's Jimmy's reassociation with the bloodline makes no sense either. It's just like,
- 1:36:29yeah, I wish they would try to explain something right, But yeah,
- 1:36:34but it made for a good moment with them having that stare down and
- 1:36:38then you know, teasing a little bit of that of what's potentially to come
- 1:36:43at WrestleMania, which is which is kind of what the you know, the
- 1:36:48secondary job of the Rumble is is, you know, set up future storylines,
- 1:36:54give the crowd nice moments and teases and stuff. Yeah, this was
- 1:36:59probably at the top of the teas of all teases. This one probably just
- 1:37:04as much of a tease as Bianca and uh As Bianca and Jade's tease was,
- 1:37:11if not more so, Yeah, No, I mean we've thought,
- 1:37:15we've thought, we've expected this match for months now. Yeah, they found
- 1:37:23a good way to keep them separated until Yeah, I remember when they separated.
- 1:37:28I remember we all said, how the fuck are they going to keep
- 1:37:30them away from each other that long? And now how are we going to
- 1:37:34get them back together face each other. They'll fucking figure it out, I'm
- 1:37:41sure. So we'll go full circle with the ship, but continue dre yep,
- 1:37:48so I think I said, going off of from there, Obviously we
- 1:37:54got the yeats and the nose, and the yeats and the nose and the
- 1:37:59continuing until at number three we got our first surprise entrant on the men's side.
- 1:38:08They were turning and Drade, who came out to a respectable pop sore.
- 1:38:17Oh you're right about that, You're right, you're right, you're right,
- 1:38:19you're right. But yeah it's three and his ugly ass basketball short outfit.
- 1:38:26His outfit. Well, here's the thing about Androde And speaking of theme
- 1:38:30songs, he had a fucking awesome theme song before, so they changed that,
- 1:38:33and so they they bring him out and I guess he says Eli the
- 1:38:36Lowe at the beginning, but they bring him out with a different theme song
- 1:38:40and he's wearing a mask, Like, is that the best way to read
- 1:38:43debut with somebody? Like, if you're gonna change the theme song, at
- 1:38:46least show us who the hell he is? You know that. I know
- 1:38:50that's part of his gimmick or whatever, but I just thought that was a
- 1:38:54weird choice to not only change the theme but stick him in a mask and
- 1:38:58throw him out there. Yeah. Yeah, I think it did kind of
- 1:39:02dampen what could have been arguably a larger pop from him, had the crowd
- 1:39:08been able to immediately react as opposed to being like, as opposed to having
- 1:39:14that who the hell is this? Oh it's that guy? Yay? Yeah.
- 1:39:18Yeah. He was followed up by Carmela Hayes making his Royal Rumble debut
- 1:39:25at number five, followed by the Heel who got everybody to sing for him
- 1:39:30any damn way because it's the Rumble and that's what we do now shins Kate
- 1:39:32Nakamora at number six. Yeah, and then you know, most Rumbles,
- 1:39:40for the most part, are pretty standard fare. It really was, honestly
- 1:39:44on the men's side. There really wasn't a whole lot of surprises or anything
- 1:39:49outside of really like androte. They kind of really went through the paces.
- 1:39:55I mean, ye had lastly at eleven, you know, and then we
- 1:40:01got that. I mean, I guess that was a bit of a cool
- 1:40:03moment with Lashley at eleven and then carrying he eliminated, carrying cross, then
- 1:40:10carrying Cross got him eliminated. Authors of pain are out there. Then the
- 1:40:15street profits show up to fight the authors of pain, but they send the
- 1:40:18two female referees to stop the author's of pain right to stop app and the
- 1:40:25two women get it from like no, like what the fuck was that?
- 1:40:28Like Dirtie Dom got so many booze and he came out, oh yep,
- 1:40:32yep. How about it about Carlito, Like it's bad enough to get spit
- 1:40:36in the face with an apple, it was more so that apple has been
- 1:40:41in some guy's ball. Oh dude, he pulled the apple out of his
- 1:40:45fucking shorts and I was like, what do you where? Why did you
- 1:40:49smuggle that out? You know? And it's a wonder Carlito doesn't show because
- 1:40:56like you take a bite of an apple, he'll like bump and then you'll
- 1:40:59have to spin it out like one of these days he's gonna like chokee.
- 1:41:05Yeah. I will say that was a good It was a good scene that
- 1:41:11you know, that beef was not completely ignored, and it is still kind
- 1:41:15of what I want to see in the feud between you know, I guess
- 1:41:19Final the test Final Testament and the Pride. I guess if that's what show.
- 1:41:29But I don't know if they have. But I thought I heard I
- 1:41:32think Grave said something like Lastly's Pride is like yeah, no, I think
- 1:41:39yeah, I think there was that moment. I also think, like on
- 1:41:42the SmackDown the night before, I thought I heard tes Or Dawkins one of
- 1:41:47them referred to another one as lion Is. I think that happened as well.
- 1:41:55So I don't know if it's official yet, but you know, for
- 1:41:58the sake of not saying Lastly in the street profits over and over again,
- 1:42:01while I'm just gonna call them the Pride for the time being between Final Testament
- 1:42:06and Pride. How great was Ludwig Kaiser avoiding them while he was walking down
- 1:42:11the ram. Yeah, yeah, first German in the Royal rumble, I
- 1:42:16believe, is that right? Yeah? I think I saw that he set
- 1:42:21a record. You didn't see this brand new spanking record broken. It is
- 1:42:28broken by WWE reports geez out of the gajillions of other fucking records. Yeah,
- 1:42:33I saw, I saw. I think he was like the first German.
- 1:42:40It is a famous It was Ludwig Borga, not an actual German,
- 1:42:45I guess not was probably from fucking out Dakota or some ship. But I
- 1:42:54would say among at least in the early to mid parts of the Men's Rum,
- 1:43:00I'll say probably the most noteworthy thing was bron Breaker and answering at number
- 1:43:05twenty and absolutely wrecking shop because apparently it wasn't Cody getting a full intro with
- 1:43:14Pyro in the middle of the thing. Oh I noticed that too, like,
- 1:43:17oh, yeah, this is what we're doing number fifteen, which I
- 1:43:20was. I was happy he put him slap right in the middle. Well,
- 1:43:24Broun supposedly took Brock's spot and did, Yes, all the things Brock
- 1:43:29was would happen. But like when he came out, I thought that,
- 1:43:31and I have it here, like, uh, if you don't mind,
- 1:43:35I kind of have to hear what he did because they said move for move
- 1:43:41is like the spots that he did that was all for Brock, Like he
- 1:43:45said, uh, Guther and Broun Breaker have a staredown after after Braun came
- 1:43:53in and attacked Shit Jimmy Uso, Shin Skin Knock and Mora Finnbaler, then
- 1:43:59he elimited ad Jimmy Usso and Finn Balor. Uh So, right there,
- 1:44:03he's taking one person from the bloodline now and taking somebody from a judgment day
- 1:44:10which will later come to bite him in the ass. And then after him
- 1:44:14and Guther have this stare now, which I was like right then and there,
- 1:44:16I was like, oh wait, this feels like something they would have
- 1:44:21had Brock do, and like, you know, coming in sparing guys and
- 1:44:26going through three guys and tossing two over the rope. Uh. And then
- 1:44:30Omas comes out, you know, and so O Maas and him you know,
- 1:44:35kind of had a little thing and and I was like, Okay,
- 1:44:41yeah, this definitely feels like Brock vibes. And uh, you know,
- 1:44:44the the spear that fucking got me was the one he did Ivar and Ivar
- 1:44:48jumped off of the rope, I guess. Uh. And then and then
- 1:44:55Braun was the guy to eliminate Omas right, and like right after he eliminates
- 1:45:00Moss, dirty Dom comes up and eliminates him, and I was like,
- 1:45:04man, I was like, okay, so you know, he eliminated Finn
- 1:45:10Balair, so Dom kind of gets him for it. But I was like,
- 1:45:15man, like this sound this feels like something they would have had for
- 1:45:17Brock. And we later find out that that's true, and we also find
- 1:45:20out that they were going to book Brock versus Dominic at Elimination Chamber. Kind
- 1:45:29of funny, but I would have loved it and less Dom one. Yeah,
- 1:45:34it would have been like a bunch of Judgment Day jumping in. But
- 1:45:38like think about like that would have made him super face, you know,
- 1:45:42like putting him against fucking domb and Judgment Day like that would make him.
- 1:45:45Yeah, and like what's that leading? Right? But what's that lead?
- 1:45:50What was that going to lead into him going into WrestleMania as a super face
- 1:45:54then like against the superhel Gunter. Yeah, that's that's the only thing I
- 1:45:59think of. So a gun there during his intro when he stopped to chew
- 1:46:02out Ludrig Kaiser eliminated Yeah, you know, yeah, I felt bad for
- 1:46:11Koffee Man he got a huge pop and it just died. I think when
- 1:46:15people realized he wasn't Biggie. That was kind of classic. Made him just
- 1:46:20get eliminated though, And I get hopefully we're retiring the Koffee spot because he's
- 1:46:26fucked it up like three years. Oh yeah, I think they he acknowledged
- 1:46:29that, I think a year or two ago. Then he was done with
- 1:46:31that. There's multiple times like with that, with their theme music, you
- 1:46:34always think that Biggie was coming back, especially with the rumble, like uh
- 1:46:40yeah, yeah, oh it's yeah. God damnsel thought it was impossible this
- 1:46:45time for a moment because Xavier was came out and then it hit again for
- 1:46:51Koffee and I was like, okay, if we hear that music one more
- 1:46:55time? Yeah right, I got it so excited. H dude. The
- 1:47:00Pat mcviee spot thirty eight seconds of a wasted spot, That's what pissed me
- 1:47:05off the most. It's like, you you wasted this spot for literally no
- 1:47:11reason, like was was there something we didn't know? Like was there another
- 1:47:15wrestler on the card who just couldn't make it? And this was your suggestion?
- 1:47:21Like a lot of people thought that, you know, he was the
- 1:47:25one filling in the Brock spot, which would been the most obvious because it
- 1:47:29was completely fucking pointless. But and he tried to play it off like he
- 1:47:33didn't know about it, showed like I didn't know about it. It was
- 1:47:39like bull fucking shit. There's no way, like everybody knew just to stop
- 1:47:45when you came in, and you know, right, everybody's stop wrestling.
- 1:47:49This is the Pat spot. Yeah, yeah, yep, dream what what
- 1:47:53about how we got? You know what that spot should have gone to?
- 1:47:56Real quick, sorry, real quick. You know that spot should have gone
- 1:47:59to. Is that of Pat McAfee trick motherfucking Williams. Yeah, let him
- 1:48:04get that spot, and you could have done a little something between him and
- 1:48:08Carmelo Hayes in that ring to help further their storyline. And we could have
- 1:48:13got a big ass, forty thousand strong whooped that trick chant in fucking Florida.
- 1:48:18Mm hmmm. So we got what I know. Unfortunately we got JD
- 1:48:26McDonough h he was only in for like three seconds. Uh, and our
- 1:48:30truth came in so and then we got the mizz Oh you're burying the lead.
- 1:48:38Our truth tagged in. Yeah, yeah, I'll tell yeh, I
- 1:48:43totally forgot about that getting dude. I the way the crowd was all for
- 1:48:50it too, like Our Truth is fucking slating it right now in the business
- 1:48:56like, and then you know, he got eliminated by Dami, So you
- 1:49:00know, I wish they would have let Our Truth clear the ring a little
- 1:49:04bit more. I don't mean like in terms of eliminating people, but just
- 1:49:09fully lean into the hot tag moment and just have him just whooping everybody's ass,
- 1:49:13right, yeah, exactly, I'm bunching it, dropping people left and
- 1:49:17just hitting all this stuff, and just let fully, if you're gonna do
- 1:49:20that, spot fully lean into it, leads all the way in and just
- 1:49:25have him just lay out everybody in the ring, whooping ass and then get
- 1:49:30tossed out. Yeah. I thought he was gonna have a nice little run.
- 1:49:35I was kind of surprised that he didn't, but show you know,
- 1:49:41he absolutely did. And just to backtrack just again a little bit, going
- 1:49:45back to bron Breaker when he came in the ring and you know, obviously
- 1:49:47feeling the uh, the the brock lesni role. I think that's a win
- 1:49:53for WWE because I think bron Breaker looked better and that in that moment,
- 1:50:00doing what he did in the ring, then brock Lesler would have looked had
- 1:50:03it been brock Lesler in that moment, because yet, if it would have
- 1:50:06been Lesser, obviously you get the pop because Lesser's back, YadA YadA,
- 1:50:12he'd have got the pop. But once he got in the ring, what
- 1:50:15would we have gotten? Germans clothes lines over the top rope F five's that's
- 1:50:19it. We would not have gotten and it wouldn't have looked anywhere near as
- 1:50:24kinetic and dynamic as what we got with bron Breaker in terms of bron Breaker
- 1:50:29hitting those fucking ropes as hard as he does with all that speed momentum,
- 1:50:32spearing the shit out of people and laying folks out like bron Breaker actually gave
- 1:50:39us more than three moves and looked good. And it's even that stare down
- 1:50:44with Omas that would have that looked more interesting than what we've gotten with a
- 1:50:47stare down between Bronck and Omas because we've seen brocken Omas before. Yeah,
- 1:50:51we've been there, done that again exactly. At least get a stair down
- 1:50:58between bron Breaker and Omas is something new and it's and it's also a challenge
- 1:51:02because obviously we've seen bron Breaker coming in here, laying out all these other
- 1:51:04folks. I here come to big dude, what you got, Broun what
- 1:51:09you're gonna do? So I think, yeah, honestly, I think it's
- 1:51:13low key a win for WWE that we got Braun in that spot as opposed
- 1:51:16to Lesner. So you know who else looked good was ivar Man. I'll
- 1:51:24tell you the best thing that ever happened to him was that other VI game
- 1:51:27getting hurt Eric. But he has looked good and continues to look good,
- 1:51:31and he had a nice showing. I don't know how many eliminations he hadever,
- 1:51:34but he looked good in there. Well, he didn't look like some
- 1:51:38fucking ham and egger. You know I didn't agree. Broun Breaker is only
- 1:51:42twenty six years old. He's gonna be hard to keep him still down on
- 1:51:49NXT. After that rumble showing he had six pounds, Yeah, you would
- 1:51:56think he's got to be He's got to make his main roster debut this year.
- 1:52:00Now, wait, they name dropped him, didn't They didn't all this
- 1:52:03get a call and he's like, oh, it's bron Breaker. I gotta
- 1:52:05take this maybe, I mean, and I guess so, and that could
- 1:52:11have been them teasing for Friday, you know, obviously improvising in the spot
- 1:52:15after telling Lezard gone take it back to the crib. Yeah, that could
- 1:52:23have been it. But yeah, it's he shows up. He has a
- 1:52:27showing like that. God, I know, we all thought that bron Breaker
- 1:52:30was gonna be one of the guys that we saw post WrestleMania last year after
- 1:52:34his NXT run, but he's spent a whole nother year down there. After
- 1:52:38what he's done in this Rumble, it's gonna be hard hard to keep him
- 1:52:42in the NXT. Still, if he doesn't make his main roster debut before
- 1:52:46WrestleMania League into a WrestleMania match, he's damn sure got to be called up
- 1:52:51right after. Let's talk about entrant number twenty seven. Oh yeah, that
- 1:53:01guy, that guy, Yeah yeah, ms Ster showing up in the Rumble
- 1:53:15at twenty seven to obviously a massive pop and then proceeding to Terry's TRICEP.
- 1:53:23Yeah, surprise, surprise, so big old womp womp. But that being
- 1:53:30said, credit to him, because you know, once we got down to
- 1:53:34the tail end, which you know, you know, I think Drew came
- 1:53:38into twenty nine and then thirty we got a returning Sammy Zing you know,
- 1:53:43he got a nice good pop too, which even though that did kind of
- 1:53:46feel like a bit of a letdown at least to me, because I get
- 1:53:51a lot of people were expecting somebody else, and yeah, I think some
- 1:53:56people were expecting bigger names. Especially at thirty. He was probably Okay,
- 1:54:06welcome back Sammy. That that cool. Samy's going to be like Edge,
- 1:54:12He's always returning. It's like, are you really returning if you have only
- 1:54:17been gone for two weeks? I know, right, Sammy's always returning,
- 1:54:23always returning. Edge was always returned. Yeah, I mean if you if
- 1:54:29you go back and watch the punk stuff knowing that he's going to hurt himself
- 1:54:33with the from the Future shock DDT from Drew. Yeah, you can see
- 1:54:40him. He's talking to referees. After that. Somebody put a clip up
- 1:54:44of him like doing push ups, testing it out, and he does.
- 1:54:48He did the exact same thing the last time. He tore his other tries
- 1:54:51up when he was in a w in the match against Moxley. It's funny.
- 1:54:57Somebody put them next to each other. He does this like push up
- 1:55:00thing, trying to test it out. Uh yeah, I mean I guess
- 1:55:05it's a bummer for storyline wise. I mean, everything's all a kerfluffle going
- 1:55:10towards WrestleMania now. But this guy can't fucking stay healthy. You know,
- 1:55:15when we talked about him when he signed, and we talked about it before,
- 1:55:17I said, you know, if he doesn't blow up backstage, he's
- 1:55:20gonna blow up in that ring. Uh. And you know he looked gassed,
- 1:55:25fucking gas. Uh. He didn't look great. I think the fucking
- 1:55:29businesses evolved past him in the seven years he was gone. If he wanted
- 1:55:32to stay relevant, he should have swallowed his pride and come back a long
- 1:55:36time ago. Uh, Because I think the business has passed him by.
- 1:55:41And I don't think his body can do it anymore. I I mean I
- 1:55:45don't think he I don't feel like he was gassed in that match. I
- 1:55:47just feel like he was. He was wrestling as a forty five year old
- 1:55:51wrestler who has not been in the ring as often as he should. And
- 1:55:59you know what, I it again yesterday and I like the second Drew comes
- 1:56:04in, Drew McIntyre comes out twenty nine, that's when ship like hits the
- 1:56:08ceiling because because that's where he injures Punk. And I kept my eye on
- 1:56:13Punk for basically the rest of the match and how he had to finish that,
- 1:56:16and like how he had to like, you know, wrestle with one
- 1:56:20arm basically, And and then I don't know if you guys caught Drew McIntyre
- 1:56:26during a Claymore kick to Cody Rose and knocking one of his fucking teeth out.
- 1:56:30Mm hmmm, yeah. I saw it on I saw it on the
- 1:56:32ground. I was like, holy shit, like, damn, Drew,
- 1:56:35Why I don't get you some franchise now. I guess he figured if he
- 1:56:42injures both of them, he can put himself in the main event, right,
- 1:56:45Well, it kind of got most of that, I mean, because
- 1:56:50you know, I can't believe it was downd to like a three. It
- 1:56:56wasn't even down well it was Goonther right, who is it? Guncer Drew?
- 1:57:03Yeah, and that it's cool that they had well Sammy's a was in
- 1:57:08there too, Yeah, it came out of thirty a round. It was
- 1:57:12cool that they had uh seth Rollins and and Roman Reigns there watching the match,
- 1:57:17you know, Yeah, but they had the women awkwardly watching watching TV
- 1:57:23while standing up at an awkward angle from the They watch a backstage, but
- 1:57:28the man are up in the booths. Yeah, why weren't they in the
- 1:57:30box? That didn't make sense. Yeah, I mean you couldn't have Ria
- 1:57:33up there in the same booth with Seth like both raw champions, and then
- 1:57:39you know, I mean, I guess you could understand, you know,
- 1:57:44not being in the same booth with Roman, given his character, and but
- 1:57:47she could have been up there in a booth. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:57:51I Uh. Did you guys hear what Punk said when he was when
- 1:57:58he went and pedigree Cody Rhoades, He goes to coment, I didn't come
- 1:58:02here to lose to son of a Plumber, No, he goes, can
- 1:58:04you believe I did that? Ship? And then uh, when he had
- 1:58:10Cody, you know, before he was gonna hit the GTS, he was
- 1:58:13I didn't wait ten years to lose the Dusty's kid. Oh yeah, the
- 1:58:16Dusty Kid. Yeah. And then Cody's like, oh, you mentioned my
- 1:58:21father got to like super Super Saiyan, right, and he threw m Punk
- 1:58:28out. I was like that was kind of a hull hum finishing sequence,
- 1:58:31so I think that went on a little lunch and my dad. It did
- 1:58:34kind of drag. It definitely didn't have the same intensity as Cody and Guilt
- 1:58:40last year, who basically put on a match within a match before eliminating each
- 1:58:44other. He had definitely Cody and and and and Punk, which I don't
- 1:58:48know. I don't know how much of that you contribute to the fact that
- 1:58:51Punk was, as we know now, injured at that time, so maybe
- 1:58:55that put a bit of a limitation on what he could do but for reason
- 1:58:59to go home sooner. But I still give Punk credit for the fact that
- 1:59:03he continued to work and just worked that long, at least in his one
- 1:59:08on one spot with Cody while still injured, so I give him credit for
- 1:59:12that. But yeah, I would say it was. It was definitely a
- 1:59:15dragging pace towards the end of that match, with very slow work towards the
- 1:59:21final finish, where again yeah, Cody toss Punk over the top, wins
- 1:59:27and then proceeds to immediately point at Roman, seemingly implying that he's going to
- 1:59:32challenge Roman until somebody decided to show up all raw, all up in they
- 1:59:39feelings this and say no face me instead because my guy got injured, so
- 1:59:47I have no opponent. Yeah, I think that's a red Herron. Oh
- 1:59:54absolutely, Like the story is still the WWB Championship. That's the belt dusting
- 1:59:59of one. And you know Cody's what is he three and oh against seth
- 2:00:03Rawlins more? Does he have to prove to seth Rawlins? Yeah, Like,
- 2:00:09if Cody wanted to be a dick in that moment, he could be
- 2:00:11like, dude, already beat you three times in a row, facing you,
- 2:00:15I beat you with one arm, speaking literally the one with the gold
- 2:00:21mm. Yeah. But I mean, like I get, I understand.
- 2:00:27I think Seth kind of made himself look weak begging for an opponent. Like
- 2:00:31I don't know. I think I think Romans the big the big, the
- 2:00:35big prize. Sorry, Like Seth's belt just isn't you know. I liked
- 2:00:41the like he's not the main guy, I'm the guy. I thought that
- 2:00:44was a cool line. Uh, I mean, but ultimately I think his
- 2:00:47logic isn't there. It doesn't Romans that's the big belt. Yeah, and
- 2:00:54that's the problem with it, because yeah, I agree with you. Like
- 2:00:58as as a promo on its own, Seth cut went hell of a fucking
- 2:01:01promo there. That was an absolute top tier, top notch promo. The
- 2:01:08problem is it don't pass the smell tests because as well as you executed,
- 2:01:14as it was delivered, as much as you put all the passion in it,
- 2:01:17as much as everything you said about Roman is as true as can be,
- 2:01:23it still doesn't change the fact that his bell is still the top title.
- 2:01:27He's still the top guy, He's still the big dog. And Cody
- 2:01:31did not come back to be the blue collar guy to be the blue collar
- 2:01:35champion. He came back to be the guy, the top guy in the
- 2:01:41company, and he ain't gonna become that going through you. I mean,
- 2:01:45I don't know Seth wrongs. I think is he could have said, you
- 2:01:49know, listen, like I've beaten Roman reigns. Roman has never beaten Seth
- 2:01:54rons He's beating him in a DH match the last sudden they faced each other,
- 2:02:00but he's never pinned him. He's never pinned him clean. Like still
- 2:02:04doesn't whose belt is the bigger of the two. I understand that. I
- 2:02:11think has a picture, has that picture of Dusty with the belt in Madison
- 2:02:15Square Garden. He's framed on his wall. He has that belt in his
- 2:02:19collection, like that means of ship. Like you know, I guess we're
- 2:02:24getting into what's real and with not but like that's that's the thing he wants.
- 2:02:30It's always been the thing. He's even said before, like that's the
- 2:02:32belt, not this one. You know. Uh So I think totally reverse
- 2:02:38course right now is makes no sense. It would make no sense. That's
- 2:02:45not the story. I get. I get that reason, but I think
- 2:02:47it's it's also them panicking now the fact that some of these plans that they've
- 2:02:54had with guys like brock Lesnar with CM Punk are kind of like they're they're
- 2:03:00scrapped, like and also I can't believe we're like totally even glossing over this
- 2:03:08is like where does somebody like the Rock even fit into all this because one
- 2:03:12way we like it or not, Like he's gonna he's gonna take part in
- 2:03:15WrestleMania some some way, right, Like I think they were trying to like,
- 2:03:19okay, like we need to wipe away the board and rewrite this,
- 2:03:24like maybe we can try some way pivot. Cody to says that way Roman
- 2:03:30is free for the Rock, Like I mean, I don't think we're getting
- 2:03:33rock from yeah, so I think maybe if Rock is involved, maybe he's
- 2:03:39fighting off the bloodline outside the ring to help Cody out or something. Honestly,
- 2:03:44I don't know that I'd be surprised if we got any kind of physicality
- 2:03:48from the Rock outside of Yeah, maybe like what he's done in the past
- 2:03:53two times he's showing up talk to smack drop an elbow. I think will
- 2:03:56he be there, almost certainly, but I think we'll probably just get and
- 2:04:00and ring segment or something akin to what we got with him, Hogan and
- 2:04:04Austin at WrestleMania thirty. I still don't think we're gonna be a in a
- 2:04:09match and Punk getting injured. I don't think changes any of that, And
- 2:04:15I don't know that I think ww is panicking right now so much as they
- 2:04:18are just buying time. If anything. I think that's what this move from
- 2:04:24seth Monday was. I think it's just WWE buying time while they figure out
- 2:04:30what they're going to do next. So they're gonna probably draw this out for
- 2:04:34probably another maybe week or two in terms of this level little suspense, in
- 2:04:41terms of what code, Who's Cody gonna choose? And hell, they may
- 2:04:44even drag it out if they really will are depending on what their plans are,
- 2:04:49If they really struggle to figure out what they're gonna do for WrestleMania,
- 2:04:53they could arguably drag this out past the elimination chamber and maybe we have a
- 2:04:59roll a Royal Rumble winner and an elimination chamber with neither one of them having
- 2:05:04been declared who they're going to face at WrestleMania, and maybe they set up
- 2:05:12some sort of drama angle in terms of who's going to decide first, and
- 2:05:15now, like you know, Cody's been dragging his ass this whole time,
- 2:05:18and now Cody, it's time to shit and get off the pipe, because
- 2:05:21you have this elimination chamber winner who could swoop in at the last second and
- 2:05:27steal your spot. Maybe the person who's that the elimination chamber could decide and
- 2:05:32up screw you, I'm taking I'm taking Roman, and now Cody's stuck having
- 2:05:36to face Seth because he wasted time. I don't think that's actually gonna happen,
- 2:05:41but they could drag it out that far if they wanted to, depending
- 2:05:45on what their plans for WrestleMania are or how long it takes for them to
- 2:05:49decide on new WrestleMania plans, because I think it's pretty clear that the original
- 2:05:56plan was Cody Roman and Seth Pump. I mean, that's pretty much what's
- 2:06:00been reported through multiple outlets, and I think that's why we all picked Punk
- 2:06:06to win the Royal Ruffel. Uh. I think we probably I want I
- 2:06:12certainly wanted Cody to get to Roman some other way. I guess probably by
- 2:06:16winning the Chamber. I suppose. I don't really love him winning again,
- 2:06:23but you know, I guess it's for the best. It's better than an
- 2:06:26injured Sea and Punk winning and then being out for eight months, you know,
- 2:06:30Yeah, and you're gonna come up with some other way to determine and
- 2:06:32that would you know, that would be a lot. We don't know for
- 2:06:38sure, though, that the Chamber is going to determine anything at this point,
- 2:06:43right No, No, I don't think right now. I think we're
- 2:06:46just going based on what I mean, we're assuming and I think, yeah,
- 2:06:48we're assuming based on but we haven't said that for sure on TV.
- 2:06:54Okay, I just wanted to make sure. Yeah, it's an interesting thing
- 2:06:58we've never had, like to undeclared h. I gotta think we'll know we'll
- 2:07:04know at least one match before, we'll at least know whose Cody's gonna face
- 2:07:09before the chamber. I have to imagine. Yeah, if I had to
- 2:07:13put money on it, I would say he probably decides before elimination chamber.
- 2:07:17And did did did Bailey say she's going to declare on Friday or as she
- 2:07:24said anything? She said something about this Friday on SmackDown. I don't know
- 2:07:30if she said she'll definitively give her decision, but I think she said maybe
- 2:07:34something to the fact, because this was when Nia Jackson was in her face
- 2:07:38and she was playing scared and something like yes, like she'd make her decision
- 2:07:42this Friday or she has something to say about it this Friday. Uh?
- 2:07:48All right, Well, I got some questions for us written by some fans
- 2:07:54of some fan questions. Let me play a bumper here. Would you like
- 2:08:03to answer a question? Why at this particular time would you like to do
- 2:08:07it? I want to ask you a bunch of questions. I wanted to
- 2:08:15have them answered immediately. Can I ask you a question? My handle more
- 2:08:20question? I'm sorry about that, ohlrighty? First question, Andrew wrote in
- 2:08:31as normal, she asked now that Brown Breaker has made one hell of a
- 2:08:39debut at the Rumble. If he goes to the main roster, where would
- 2:08:45you guys think he would fit. I think he would be a good fit
- 2:08:52on RAW, I don't I think he would get lost in the shuffle and
- 2:08:56SmackDown between Orton, AJ Styles, l A. Knight, the Bloodline.
- 2:09:01I think he was just getting lost in that shuffle of guys. I think
- 2:09:05Rawl is the the place for him to be. I think, damn,
- 2:09:11twenty six years old, like we like we said, we thought he was
- 2:09:13gonna get called up. Last year, they kept him down at NXT.
- 2:09:18He became a heel. He had a memorable uh feud with Braun. Well,
- 2:09:26god damn, he's been down there so long. I can't remember his
- 2:09:28fucking name. Baron. Now they're I think they're a tag team, right,
- 2:09:33I think they're I think they're a tag team. Well, yeah,
- 2:09:39so they might bring him up and bring KORbin up and keep that as a
- 2:09:43tag exactly. So if they do that, I'm all for it. I
- 2:09:48just think now's the time. I mean, the man was there to be
- 2:09:52called up to fill in a big spot. He filled in. He did
- 2:09:56a great job, and I think this is where his reward's gonna be for
- 2:10:01it? What do you guys think? Yeah, I think he's gonna I
- 2:10:07think he ought to be remaining a tag team with Corbyn at least for a
- 2:10:11little while, and then you can split them off and have them feud and
- 2:10:15then he can be off to the races, going after a mid card title
- 2:10:18or something. But I like the idea of him saying with Corbyn at least
- 2:10:24for a little while. But otherwise he's just gonna be somebody's heavy, you
- 2:10:28know, or maybe they pick up a third and they get it on this
- 2:10:31this gang war that's going on between Crosses group and Last of These group,
- 2:10:37and I guess that would be on RAW. I think yeah, I would
- 2:10:43probably play some probably on RAW. I know he said in a post Rumble
- 2:10:50interview, one of those you know, digital excuses on WW or whatever that
- 2:10:54he interviewed, he said something to the fact that he's not done with the
- 2:10:58judgment day. I don't know if that was foreshadowing of any sort or a
- 2:11:05slip on his on his mind, on his part, just speaking in the
- 2:11:09moment, but you know, if there's a level of foreshadowing, then I
- 2:11:13guess he could be He could show up at some point in and start a
- 2:11:18few with Judgment Day. I don't know really what the story would be unless
- 2:11:22it's, you know, he debuts and they try to recruit him because he
- 2:11:26know he had a strong showing in the Rumble and they're like, you know,
- 2:11:31hey, join up with us, dude, you're pretty bad ass,
- 2:11:33and he's like, screw y'all. Something tells me, but that's yeah,
- 2:11:41I mean, something tells me he's gonna end up on the main roster as
- 2:11:45a babyface at least when he debuts, even though he's a heel now on
- 2:11:50on n XT. I think they're going to try to book him as a
- 2:11:56babyface when he at least initially. All right, he came out his a
- 2:12:00neon, right, he's been wearing like black as a heel. Right,
- 2:12:03Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, and he alsously was getting the
- 2:12:09dog pound chance. You know, the roots from shades of old Rick Steyder.
- 2:12:13He should be a promo backstage, but do it like Scott Steiner math
- 2:12:18and he should just nail it ship. Uh yeah, we got oh we
- 2:12:28got another question here. It says Doyle's wife, I love it. Uh.
- 2:12:39Why do male wrestlers always have wet hair. Oh that's this all the
- 2:12:46time. Uh you know what I think? You know, not only does
- 2:12:52it it look better Like prime example, there's a wrestler who would come out
- 2:12:56specifically whose hair would look way better if it was wet than when it was
- 2:13:00dry and fluffy. That was Dolph Zigler. Dolph Ziglar would come out sometimes
- 2:13:05dry hair and it'd be like so fluffy on frizzy and all over the place,
- 2:13:11and I couldn't take him serious. But wet hair makes a difference.
- 2:13:16I think it's easier to call spots too, when you have like your hair
- 2:13:18hanging over your face. I think it works for some gimmicks like Bray Wyatt
- 2:13:26with his long hair, the Undertaker with his hair, and you know what,
- 2:13:31like some wrestlers just look better with longer hair and with with it being
- 2:13:35wet. You know. I just think when when you're punching the guy in
- 2:13:41a face, the actions that they do make it look some more realistic with
- 2:13:45the hair. So yeah, it looks like a boxer getting hit with the
- 2:13:50sweat spray off that or my only other answer for you is that Vince likes
- 2:13:54it, and he would be backstage with a water bottles springing it down like
- 2:14:00I like that good ship. Want to spray it? Get on your knees
- 2:14:03so I can spray the top of your head. Yeah, easy, Yeah,
- 2:14:11I think uh, I think it probably does. Yeah, it's part
- 2:14:16of that. It looks better. And again like Seth Rollins looks better with
- 2:14:22wet hair than with a blowout. We've seen him with both looks. I
- 2:14:26think some guys, some wrestlers look better on I think the only wrestler I've
- 2:14:30ever seen like almost never do wet hair or that could pull out pull off
- 2:14:35the dry hair look was a guy like Rick Flair because he had those lots.
- 2:14:39Well yeah, yeah, because a is late so haircut, Yeah,
- 2:14:45a j ship is late as fucked. But also guy like Rick Flair who
- 2:14:48obviously his hair was styled like a motherfucker name. Yeah, people like that
- 2:14:54can pull it off there, but you have to have a certain look or
- 2:15:00just like naturally good laid hair to be able to pull it off. Most
- 2:15:03other people. No, it's just it looks better wet. Like anybody trying
- 2:15:09to these freaking Roman reigns will blow out. Yeah, she would not look
- 2:15:13right at all. Well, we know that, we know the QR code
- 2:15:20works She always asked me that, and I said, why don't you,
- 2:15:24And she goes, I'll ask the can I ask the podcast that? And
- 2:15:26I said, well, you gonna scan the code, so I guess she
- 2:15:28did. Yeah. Yeah, it works pretty well because uh I had somebody
- 2:15:37who asked about our website and I was just like, scan the back of
- 2:15:41my shirt. Fuck, yeah, it works. It's brilliant. And now
- 2:15:46that I'm happy that we have our website length in our story, I mean
- 2:15:50so like literally everything we have is linked there. Like if you want to
- 2:15:56be on our discord, you want to go to our Facebook or our you
- 2:16:00know, you want to reach us personally, like you want to write fan
- 2:16:03question, you want to review, you want to download any Like all the
- 2:16:07episodes are on on there, like the library of every episode. So if
- 2:16:13you're listening to it on like I don't know whatever provider and you can't find
- 2:16:18every episode like SoundCloud or something, it's like, well, go to our
- 2:16:20website. Every episode is there's fucking awesome. And then sometimes legend has it
- 2:16:30or actually not even that rumor has it that there might be another blog one
- 2:16:33day Doyle, Yes, some kind some rant. Yes, that's why I
- 2:16:43will finish you're like, uh, you're like that fucking guy from a Game
- 2:16:50of Thrones, George R. Starting finishing the starting them. So George R.
- 2:16:58Martin ship right there, fucking finish it. God damn it's been years.
- 2:17:05Ah, dude, WRESTLEMANI is coming, dude, like this, this
- 2:17:07trip it's coming on before. Ye, dude, I gotta I gotta put
- 2:17:15in my vacation day because I got to take off Monday, like and I
- 2:17:18whatever time we get done, I'm gonna have to sleep thinking it's a work.
- 2:17:24Oh yeah, definitely, I mean help Monday it will be my fly
- 2:17:28back home day. Man. Yeah. And I don't know that that Tuesday
- 2:17:33before, Becky Lynch is doing a book signing. Yeah, that book signing.
- 2:17:41Also, I have some more people lined up to do some interviews for
- 2:17:46so maybe like we'll do like an interview in a news dump next episode or
- 2:17:50something. But I got a lot of stuff in the works. Keep us
- 2:17:54busy, keeping us busy, gentlemen. Would you like to plug anything,
- 2:18:03dre Nothing to plug this time. As always, y'all can find me in
- 2:18:09the discord, you good old Discord Doyle. What do you got the plug?
- 2:18:18Man? Yeah, I'm in the discord my damnself and remember to like
- 2:18:22the Facebook page. Cool I you find me anywhere at Semi dry Chicken.
- 2:18:31I was on Scenic cast again recently and we did Apollo thirteen and a movie
- 2:18:41called Lyft on Netflix. I did not make it to the movie Theater One,
- 2:18:46which was like Miller's Girl or something, but I didn't. I heard
- 2:18:48it was not good and I reviewed like a couple of TV shows I watched,
- 2:18:56But the only other thing I wanted to plug in real quick was like,
- 2:19:01uh, I just I just read it now. Since they re they're
- 2:19:05reshooting the new Captain American movie, all of seth Rawlins scenes were they were
- 2:19:11all be cut, dude, Like I was excited, Like we're gonna have
- 2:19:16seth Rollins in the MCU somehow, and like he was going for a while,
- 2:19:20like the sacrifice to leave WWE for anything, like you know, especially
- 2:19:26when you're an active wrestler, like given a window to like go and do
- 2:19:31a quick movie and then this, Yeah, they love that ship. That
- 2:19:35that's they love being anything close to the mainstream, they love it. They
- 2:19:41will gladly give seth Rollins two three weeks off or whatever to go be in
- 2:19:45an mcu movie. You're kidding me, But yeah, like now it's like
- 2:19:48now we're not getting it from you know. So the rumor is that they
- 2:19:54wanted him to put the world title on the line in some fight scene with
- 2:19:56Cap, but he refused, so he chose to go in another the job
- 2:20:01ship. Yeah, good job out to contain America. I mean, such
- 2:20:07as the nature of the business happens all the time, all right, guys,
- 2:20:11I mean it basically happened to m JF and the Iron Claw. He
- 2:20:15was in it for a second but blank if you blink and you'd miss it.
- 2:20:20And no no lines of dialogue or anything. Oh no, you got
- 2:20:24to pay extra for lines. Yeah. Well, I mean I guess he
- 2:20:28filmed a bunch of stuff and it was only in it for a sweat segment.
- 2:20:33So all right, guys, well let's get the hell out of here.
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- 2:20:50bit that day in and day out, for almost six years, I improved
- 2:20:56everybody in the world that I am the best on this microphone and in that
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- 2:21:20your songs, talk about John three sixteen. Momstead three sixteen says I just
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