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Episode 25 - “How Elite Couples Survive & Thrive at Lifestyle Events” · The Bull Brotherhood

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It was my first splash and there was this girl
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and to this day when I see her something in me
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just it just electrifies she's she has this kind
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of southern feminine swag I don't know what you
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want to call it that just gets me going so she
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was one of the first women I said hey you know
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if you're you know if you're you know you're
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okay with it I'd like to you know play with you
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that's how I said it to you nervous stuttering
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She said, oh, yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, let's
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catch up later. We're business people, me and
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Siren. One of the biggest things we say to each
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other all the time is, fortune is in the follow
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Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
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and welcome to another informative episode of
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the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the one and
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only Sigma Male Brian Morgan, the lone wolf coming
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at you as one third of the podcast family, along
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with the beautiful couple of Siren and Socrates.
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Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing? Doing good.
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Doing real good, real good, Unc. What's good
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with you and welcome back from a, from what I
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hear, an exciting tour of Houston, Texas and
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this Splash Mocha, another Splash Mocha event.
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How was it, y 'all? Man, it was, you know, I
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always say, people ask me, what's your favorite
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one? I'm always like the last one I went to.
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But, you know, Houston is the favorite location
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for sure. But, you know, we always learn. We
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always go in there with some goals, like mental
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and emotional goals to achieve. We never go in
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there with numbers or anything like that. We're
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always in there like, how can we improve ourselves?
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That kind of thing. And we got a lot. We have
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a lot. What is it about Houston that makes it
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your favorite? Siren, you want to go first? I
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just already have a special place in my heart
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for the Houston men. They always take real good
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care of me inside and outside of Splash. And
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then I think, too, in Fort Lauderdale, I just...
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Before I went there, I went there with three
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things that I wanted to make sure that I achieved.
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In the past, I really did focus on numbers. I
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wanted to get a lot of play going. And then,
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you know, once you kind of get that craziness
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out of your system, you can slow down and really
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think about what you want, like you say, evolve.
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So I went in there with the mentality of making
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sure I was where I wanted to be with who I wanted
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to be doing what I wanted to be doing. So that
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really worked well in Fort Lauderdale. And I
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damn near nailed it. And then in Houston, I think
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I had it going, but then I wasn't feeling well.
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So I didn't get to execute according to what
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I wanted perfectly. And there was little hiccups.
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But overall, I think that Houston is just a great
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place with great people. There's a lot of local
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people that are really great. and a lot of local
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men especially. The ladies are very supportive
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that are from the area. A lot of them I'm blessed
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to call friends. So that's really what makes
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Houston my favorite. And that was her first splash.
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That was her first and second splash. Oh, really?
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Oh, yeah, yeah. When we first came, that was
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the first time that Houston was where we started.
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Okay. Back to the birthing of Splash Mocha for
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me. It's also where she got her. named siren
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yeah okay so that was like the the i was born
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in houston go ahead i'm sorry i was also born
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in oh really so that's home just keeps adding
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okay okay okay so like the um the baptism and
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the rebirth huh right all in one good sounds
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like a winner sounds like a winner who did you
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meet like new or i mean just give me like a rundown
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of pretty much what you did you know From like
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the time you got there and to the time you started
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playing, et cetera, et cetera. Who'd you meet?
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Who'd you wish you would have met? Did you make
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some great connections, et cetera? Well, we did
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it a little bit differently this time. We had
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some business things going on. So Socrates came
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in on Wednesday. I came in on Tuesday. And a
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gentleman from the area picked me up and, you
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know, brought me to the hotel and, you know,
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got me settled in. And then, you know, we did
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something that was new for us. We don't. We haven't
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done a lot. We've each just done it once since
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we've been meeting each other, and we have stayed
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overnight. So we made a special occasion kind
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of thing out of it. I wasn't sure how I would
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feel about that, you know, because I have sleep
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apnea, I have a CPAP, you know, just different
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things. It was more about how I would, if I would
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get my rest with someone that wasn't my husband.
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in the room with me versus being nervous about
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the person you know i felt safe and comfortable
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with him but just that process so so that went
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just fine and then the next day i just wasn't
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feeling i started just like not feeling great
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like just lower energy took an i think i i played
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around noon a guy came you know on wednesday
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from the area but he was also going to be a part
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of splash and we played Then I took a nap, and
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then about that time it was time to go get my
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husband. So I, you know, rode to the airport
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with the gentleman that had picked me up, and
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we got him to the hotel and, you know, got him
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settled in. And then we just started mingling
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right away. Finished out the evening with a couple
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more local guys from the area that, you know,
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because it's Wednesday night, you know, anybody
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can come in the hotel. And I had met them previously
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at a party, so they... Didn't attend Splash,
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but they were there before that. And then by
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Thursday morning, I was really not feeling well.
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I had some definite, you know, exhaustion and
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emotions, you know, just work through just from
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not feeling good. Worked through those, you know,
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decided that, you know, it was best for me to
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just go by what I was talking about. You know,
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if I am not feeling well, I need to just go to
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the room and rest. I need to not try to push
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myself, not try to do a bunch. and Socrates consistently
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checked on me throughout the weekend, and I just
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kept saying, go play, go play. I'm going to bed
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at whatever time I need to go to bed for my body,
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and I'll see you when I see you. We do a lockdown
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date every month, and that's coming up tomorrow,
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where we spend 24 hours just with each other.
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We don't talk to nobody else. We may or may not
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go anywhere. Usually we just stay at home and
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just have some connection time. So I knew that
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was coming up. So I was like, you know, here's
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the place where we can, you know, be with all
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these people. And when we get home, we'll have
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our connection time. So he was great. He kept
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checking in on me, but I just kept encouraging
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him, go play and go have a good time. I did have,
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he organized a gangbang for me and another gal
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that's from our area that was in attendance.
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So anyways, that was a good time. He did a really
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good job with that. Usually he has a hard time
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not jumping in because he wants to be part of
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the fun and the beauty that's going around. But
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he did real good just facilitating the gangbang
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and letting the other guys have their fun with
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us and jumped in a little bit at the end. Got
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some good videos and pictures for me to have
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as memories. So that's nice. And then I just,
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you know. That's what you're supposed to do.
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Yeah. Then I just made sure that I had, you know,
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good, quiet connections. Room parties, I really
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have to gear up for those. They're not. They're
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not necessarily my jam. I know a lot of people
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love them. They're great. Socrates, he loves
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them. He went to a bunch. I didn't go to a single
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one and I was perfectly happy with that. I love
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my one -on -one connections with guys. I love
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that chance to just slow down, talk. Like my
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life is very busy outside of Splash. So I think
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for me to be able to slow down there and just
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relax and then really enjoy whatever moment I'm
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in with whoever I'm in it with is really... important
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to me and really meets my needs for splash whereas
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socrates is a people person he's an extrovert
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being around people just charges his battery
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so you know we just really both navigated splash
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in the way that was best for us and we learned
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you know how to navigate it a little bit better
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next time you know as a couple or you know run
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around separately so we always learn something
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we always talk before and after about what worked,
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what didn't work, and we just keep improving
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on it. So if I hadn't been feeling poorly throughout
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and just saving every little bit of energy for
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any playtime I could get, then I would have said
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it was damn near perfect. So you had a good time
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regardless of the situation. And it was very
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sweet. Right away on Wednesday, a lady ran up
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to me and she was like, siren, siren. I'm so
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sorry. I'm just, I'm fangirling. And I was like,
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oh, you're fine. You're fine. She's like, me
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and my husband, we listen to your podcast all
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the time in the car when we're driving together.
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And she was just really excited. And so I was
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like, oh, I met my first big fan. It was very
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sweet. She's a really nice lady. So it's just,
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you know, people are getting a lot of benefit
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from the podcast that we do. And that's really
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what we want is to help our community and to,
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you know, give them more knowledge, more encouragement.
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And more resources. So if that's being accomplished,
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that's all I can ask for. You know, if you know
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my name or not, that's, you know, irrelevant.
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But if you're getting what you need out of the
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podcast that we share, then that's a win for
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me. So, Socrates, what about you? Well, it was
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a lot, like I say. But I do want to say, first
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off, thank you to all the listeners that did
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come up to me and share their thoughts and, you
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know, how much they are enjoying the podcast.
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I want to also encourage you guys, you know,
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email us. We're on Telegram. The Bull Brotherhood
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is on Telegram. I'll put that link on there.
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You know, but I really, really enjoyed that.
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I really enjoyed hearing, you know, all of it
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was positive, but I'm open to any kind of criticism
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you might have that we can get better. Or at
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least clarify, nah, that's how we're going to
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talk because we're going to be bold. We're going
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to say what we believe in. We're going to stand
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on business. That was awesome. As far as me,
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I was out of sorts in the beginning because she
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was not feeling well. Because here's the thing,
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you guys. There was one time, the second splash,
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I missed my Achilles trying to play basketball.
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And I had to go in a boot. And I was towards
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the end of it. Like, I wasn't really in a bad
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shape. But there was a time where we were thinking
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about, I don't know if I can make it. She's like,
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look, Fu, if I have to wheel you around in a
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wheelchair, we going. And I'm like, okay. So
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this is the highlight of her year. We do it three
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times a year. It's the highlight of our lifestyle.
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And I'm ready to kind of expand, but it's something
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that she truly loves. She doesn't get that kind
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of treat a lot of other places. And I just really
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loved. how well she handled it. I didn't believe
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her. She kept saying, I'm fine, Daddy. There's
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nothing in the world you can do. Go have fun.
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So you got a chance. Go ahead. No, go ahead.
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So you got a chance to actually get out there
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and maneuver. Of course, she knows that she's
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giving you the green light to go out there and
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just do your thing. So how did you approach that
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situation? I mean, did you go out there and just...
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be my typical nephew and get bug wild? Or did
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you take some of what Anka's been telling you
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and, you know, go out there and play with it
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a little bit? Well, Simon would disagree with
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it in the way it's explained. So I would say
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it's kind of both. I took your advice in the
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sense that I have ADHD and it's not an excuse.
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I'm working on it, but I really do. And so...
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I am kind of a squirrel person. And I took your
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advice, Mr. Mocha. I mean, the entire squad.
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Pagan. It doesn't matter who you mention. And
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I slowed down a little bit. And I tried to sit
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in places and just chill and watch. And what
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started happening is people started coming to
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me. And then I would start getting the buzz.
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And then I would get back into my ADHD a little
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bit. And then I would stop myself, calm back
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down. and chill. And another thing that I did
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was huge this time. I didn't do much at all in
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the playrooms besides the glory home. That's
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my spot. I'm always going to go there. But like
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the big playrooms and some of the other wife
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watching rooms and all those things, I'm usually
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in there and I didn't. I decided this time I
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wanted to really start chilling, hanging with
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the boys, you know, talking to the squad, seeing,
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you know, how they doing, catching up with them.
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And really getting to know couples, sitting down
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and talking to them for a long time. I speak
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Spanish and I don't have an opportunity to practice
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my Spanish where I live. So I met a couple where
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the husband didn't speak English and the wife
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was bilingual. So I was able to kind of practice
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my Spanish, you know, and chill with them and
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converse and really get to know them. And then
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I spent a little bit more, a lot more time in
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the room parties. It was much more of a vibe.
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It was much more of my vibe. And so, yeah, I
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listened to what you said. I sit back a lot more
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than I normally do. Now, I think this next one
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is going to be people that aren't even going
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to recognize me because I see the vision now.
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I see what especially you and Mr. Mocha have
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been saying. You guys were surely missed, by
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the way. You guys were really missed there. Everyone
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asked. Everyone asked about you guys. But the
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specific advice you guys gave me to sit back,
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chill, be observant. Pay attention. And take
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a breather. Watch what's going on. That worked
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tremendously. But I will say this. Siren, we
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used to get into it because the way she wanted
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to manage the women I played with, especially
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if it's local, was very, very hands -on. And
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I would say, look, I don't have a problem with
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that. insecure, jealous. They need to know our
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bond. They need to know how much we love each
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other, you know, but you're doing too much. The
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only thing I need you to do is let them know
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one thing, and it should be 100 % truth. We are
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solid. Like, me and Socrates over there, that's
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sealed. There's nothing you can do to take that
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man away from me. The only person that's going
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to lose Socrates is Siren. That's it. So, she
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did that and she did it in her own way and i'll
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let her talk about it if she wants to talk about
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how but that i think made the difference i didn't
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have to go out there chasing anything pursuing
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anything follow up you know we're business people
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so i had a story to tell and it was my first
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it was my first splash and there was this girl
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and to this day when i see her something in me
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just it just electrifies she's she has this kind
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of southern feminine swag, I don't know what
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you want to call it, that just gets me going.
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So she was one of the first women I said, hey,
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if you're okay with it, I'd like to play with
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you. That's how I said it to you. Nervous, stuttering.
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She said, oh yeah, it'd be great. Let's catch
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up later. We're business people, me and Siren.
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One of the biggest things we say to each other
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all the time is fortune is in the follow -up.
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Well, that don't work at Splash Mocha, gentlemen.
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Not the way I did. Because I followed up. Yeah,
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you know, every time she said, yeah, yeah, let's
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catch up later. I followed up two more times.
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The third time when she was like, yeah, let's
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catch up later. You know when she said it? Sunday
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as we're leaving with our luggage. I said, I
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said, I'm never, ever doing that again. Now,
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funny thing is, I ended up in a room party. And
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the first thing she did was trip her clothes
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off and jumped on my dick. But that's not the
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point. Oh, on this one? No, the next one. Oh.
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The one right after that. Because remember, I
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was upset about it and everything. I was like,
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oh, I'm never doing that again. Oh, okay. So
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I said all that to say I didn't have to. Because
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I was like, I am not doing that. I'm here. I
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know the value I bring. I'm one who masters my
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craft. I take pride in it. And I'm a lover of
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women. I am in love with my wife. But she knows
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I appreciate women's body, their femininity,
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their magic, their power, their ability to create
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life. She knows that. So that's valuable. That's
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something of value. And I don't want to spend
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my energy chasing anybody but my wife. Now, I
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will pursue you, but I chase my wife all around
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here mentally, emotionally. Well, not physically
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because I can't keep up with her sexually, but
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I just can't keep up with that. But I chased
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my wife. I ain't chasing a woman I might not
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ever see. I think you're scaring the guys away.
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Scaring them away. It's not like that, guys.
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It's like that, guys. You'll be fine. You won't
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be fine. You'll be fine. I want to speak to the
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comfort part. So I think what really helped when
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he's referring to is not only what I did in the
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ladies' chat, but also what we did in the vent
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chat. And I think... More people that are coupled
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up would do well to present this in the event
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mingle. So I really want to push this. And it's
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the idea that especially if you're in an interracial
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relationship and you're going to splash, that
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just creates a level of. A little bit of a barrier.
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You know, people don't quite know how to approach
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you because it's very different. A lot, you know,
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is like, you know, white couples are going there
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to seek a single black man, you know. So when
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an interracial couple goes, it's a little bit
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different. So what we did is in the chat, I put
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a picture of Socrates. This is just in the event
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mingles. And I said, hey, we're Siren and Socrates.
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We play separately. Stamp of approval. Ladies
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go, you know, you don't have to ask my permission.
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If you see me, say hi, I'd love to meet you.
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And then in the ladies chat, I did that like
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a little closer to the event. Then he did the
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same thing. He posts some pictures of me. You
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know, a couple of us as a couple says, hey, fellas,
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this is my wife. You know, be respectful. Tell
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it's time to be disrespectful and, you know,
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go for it. So I think that really helped. Then
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I saw a few other couples follow suit. But it
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really, you know, the feedback I heard was it
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really helped the couples that did do that. So
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that people knew, like, hey, this is how we can
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approach them. So there was one couple that was
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going to be, you know, a cuckold couple. And
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they were going to be there with her boyfriend.
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And so she's like, hey, we play separately. We
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don't have to ask permission, you know, her and
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her boyfriend. So she's like, feel free to approach.
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So a few people did that. And I really would
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like that to catch on because I think it just
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helped people to be prepared so they didn't have
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to, you know, wander so much. So if you're a
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little on the, of course you can just go up and
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ask, Hey, what's your dynamic? You know, how
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is this? But it takes away a little bit of that
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nervousness when you just know upfront. And a
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lot of the ladies said, excuse me, that, that
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really, they really appreciated that. And that
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gave them the confidence. And they really admired
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that to be able for me to just say, Hey, this
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is what's going on. You know, go for it. You
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don't have to find, and especially because they
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couldn't find me. I was in the room, you know,
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that would, that able enabled him to, you know,
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get a lot of playtime because. You know, if they
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would have been trying to find me, I guess they
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could have just came to the room, leave a note,
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sign up for Socrates. I don't know. But, you
22:02
know, they didn't need to ask permission. So
22:04
and in the past, I had been kind of like, hey,
22:06
I would at least like to be acknowledged first.
22:09
And now I'm just like, you know, if you see me,
22:11
say hi. So was that a was that a big thing for
22:14
you that you were able to feel comfortable enough
22:18
to be just like, baby, go do your thing, you
22:20
know? No one has to come to me and I kind of
22:24
vet them or anything like that. Just do your
22:27
thing. I'm good with it. You love me. That's
22:30
definitely been an evolution for me over the
22:33
last three years because we didn't even play
22:37
separately at all until we went to our first
22:41
splash about eight months into the lifestyle.
22:42
And then it was probably... At least another
22:46
six months before we played separately back at
22:49
home, and now that's pretty much our go -to most
22:52
of the time, unless we're having parties. No,
22:53
it was more like a year. Another year? There
22:56
was, yeah, because there was three, or at least
22:59
three splashes where you were like, you know,
23:01
I feel comfortable in Splash because it's this
23:04
and it's that, but not out there. Yeah, not at
23:06
home. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was just, yeah,
23:08
there was just multiple levels of... you know,
23:11
my own insecurities that I had to work through
23:13
myself and nothing to do with our relationship,
23:16
but it just had to do with me overcoming those.
23:19
And that's where it's like, you know, Socrates
23:23
has referred to it before is that the lifestyle
23:25
has been my dojo. You know, he's like, do you
23:27
want to get out? Do you want to take a break?
23:28
He offers that anytime that I come upon a mountain
23:31
that I need to conquer. And I just say, what
23:34
do I mostly say to you when you offer that? No,
23:37
I need to learn. I need to figure this out anyway.
23:41
So I might as well do it now. Yeah, and if it's
23:44
not coming up in the lifestyle, if we took the
23:46
lifestyle away, it's just going to come out somewhere
23:47
else. If I have an area of opportunity, an area
23:52
that I need to grow in, it's going to come out
23:55
regardless of what I'm involved in in my life.
23:58
It's going to come out in my work. It's going
23:59
to come out in my friendship somewhere. So I
24:02
might as well deal with it head on together as
24:04
a team than to just try to eliminate things.
24:09
you know, you can't wrap me in bubble wrap forever,
24:11
you know? So yeah, it was a, to answer your question,
24:14
you know, it was a big jump for me to do that,
24:17
but I really felt from Fort Lauderdale to Houston,
24:21
like bridging that gap that, you know, and, and
24:24
also with me just making sure that I was getting
24:27
my own needs met and making sure instead of worrying
24:31
about what he's doing, like, why am I not making
24:34
sure that I'm having fun and doing what I want
24:36
to be doing? So when I focused, it sounds selfish,
24:39
but when I actually focused on myself a little
24:41
bit more on like what I wanted, then I didn't
24:45
have time or space to be jealous or insecure
24:50
or worried about anything else, you know? So
24:54
yeah, it's just been a good, good growth. So,
24:57
and it went great. Had lots of ladies come, you
25:00
know, send me messages and say how well he took
25:03
care of them. And, you know, I thank them for
25:05
giving him a fun time. And, yeah, it was great.
25:09
Good deal. Socrates, how long did it take you
25:12
once you ventured out to feel, like, totally
25:15
comfortable doing, you know, being able to go
25:18
out and, hey, just handle business, knowing that
25:22
mama's good, you know, she gave you the green
25:24
light? Oh, no, I never felt comfortable. That
25:26
didn't happen until maybe two days after we got
25:28
back. I benefited from the fact a little bit.
25:32
Maybe I have the podcast. I've been there. This
25:34
is my eighth time. I've got friends in the lifestyle.
25:37
You know, I'm halfway decent looking guy. You
25:40
know, I think what happened is some things are
25:43
compounding. A lot of things I learned from you
25:45
guys, my own personal journey. You know, so the
25:48
fact that she put that message out, that allowed
25:51
a lot to come to me, but I was out of sorts.
25:55
The whole time. Because that's my wife. At the
25:58
end of the day, I enjoy these women. Some of
26:00
these people are my friends. Some of these people
26:03
work with us. We've stayed at their homes. This
26:08
is more than just a little vacation. But if my
26:11
wife's not okay, I'm not okay. And like she said,
26:14
I kept checking on her. It's more of like, I'll
26:16
stay in. You want me to stay in? I have other
26:18
things planned. She took it like I was throwing
26:20
it in her face. But I was like, I have things
26:22
planned. I need to cancel. Give me a second.
26:24
But I'll stay. She's like, no, there's nothing
26:28
you can do. You're just going to sit here on
26:30
your phone while I'm sleeping. Yeah, it didn't
26:33
make any sense. Why would both of us? Well, and
26:36
the same was when you had that Fort Lauderdale
26:38
experience where. You know, we had a little medication
26:41
mix -up, and it was making things not go so well
26:45
for Socrates in a number of areas. She can just
26:49
say it. My dick wouldn't work. Yeah. You need
26:51
to take Cialis, not Tramadol. Pro tip. And then
26:55
you were also having digestive issues, too. So,
26:58
you know, and you didn't. hold me back you know
27:02
I came into the room early a couple of different
27:04
times spent time with you put you to bed then
27:07
go back out you know I made sure and take care
27:10
of you as much as you wanted to be taken care
27:12
of but you didn't say oh just stay in the room
27:14
with me the whole time I mean then there's no
27:16
reason that we should both miss out you know
27:19
what are you gonna do while I'm sleeping so It
27:21
was good for me to just get some rest. And we
27:23
had just gone on another trip right before. So
27:26
it all kind of just added up for me. What really
27:29
helped, too, is, you know, my boys, man. Michael
27:31
C. was just, you know how you do. He was doing
27:33
his thing. And I was able to hang out with Pagan.
27:35
And I was able to meet some other cats. I don't
27:38
know if they want me mentioning their names.
27:39
But I can mention Raven because he's going to
27:42
be on the podcast. You know, you're going to
27:43
get to meet him. He's super cool. So, you know,
27:47
those are the things that kind of got me through.
27:51
worried about her being, and I was able to enjoy
27:53
myself. And honestly, I think probably about
27:56
80 % of the people I played with were people
27:58
I already played with, like people I'm comfortable
28:00
with, people I know. They know I'm worried. I
28:03
can just tell them, hey, we can play. But I'm
28:05
kind of worried about my wife. Are you okay there,
28:07
Uncle? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.
28:10
So, you know, those people. And then after a
28:13
while, I played with some new people I haven't
28:16
met, some people I've had my eye on and some
28:18
things like that. Then I was more comfortable
28:21
because I knew that my friends were checking
28:24
on her. I had other people checking on her. She
28:27
has plenty of friends because, again, we know
28:31
a lot of people here. I mean, they're in Houston.
28:33
We have a great, great friend group there, Houston
28:36
and Dallas, actually. A lot of people from Dallas
28:38
that we now know and we're good friends with.
28:40
So that kind of got me through. But I'm out of
28:43
sorts seeing my wife because she is the most
28:46
jovial and energetic. add splash than anything
28:49
so yeah yeah yeah it was weird too that's great
28:53
because i just kept getting up and leaving situations
28:55
and then he would like i'd be like i'm going
28:57
to the room and he would come after me he's like
28:59
are you mad at me is everything okay and i was
29:01
like i just don't feel good and it was actually
29:04
starting to irritate me that he wouldn't believe
29:06
me because i was like babe you're not doing anything
29:09
wrong and usually you don't get sick until the
29:11
end like we'll get swingers flu we've done it
29:14
we've been there eight times we We've had it
29:17
like six out of eight or five out of eight times.
29:20
Right. But remember, we had usually you're cool
29:21
through it. Right. But we had gone on a trip
29:24
for five days with our family. Then I was only
29:27
home for one day and then I left again. And so
29:30
I was just worn out. So, yeah, I usually but
29:33
you know what? I didn't get full blown sick because
29:36
I did take that time. But yeah, I was almost
29:38
getting pissed at him for not believing me that
29:40
like, I just don't feel good. I love you. I just
29:43
don't feel good. Any energy that I have, I'm
29:46
saving to like get a few playdates in while I'm
29:49
here. We can connect when we get home. But he
29:53
was always, you know, making sure I was out of
29:55
sorts. Well, I tell you what, I absolutely love
29:58
that Socrates. That lets the listeners and the
30:02
followers know that, especially the bulls that
30:04
have, you know, may have wives or girlfriends
30:06
or significant others or whatever, that mama
30:10
comes first. I don't give a damn where we are.
30:13
She comes first. If she doesn't feel well, I
30:16
don't feel well, you know? So that's what makes
30:20
what you guys have extra special. It really does.
30:24
So I commend you. I commend you for staying by
30:28
her side, making sure that she was absolutely
30:30
100 % okay, you know, before you went out and
30:32
did what you did. So hats off to you, brother.
30:35
Yeah, I tell her, look, I say, I don't care if
30:38
I'm doing the nastiest, dirtiest, craziest thing
30:40
away from you. You know what makes it amazing?
30:43
Is I have this amazing woman at home. Because
30:45
people don't understand about me. I had a hard
30:48
time translating vanilla life to lifestyle, believe
30:52
it or not, being the philosopher that I am. I
30:55
had a lot of problems because, trust me, I have
30:58
been a backup dancer for a rap group. I have
31:02
been every kind of thing in a nightclub. I've
31:05
owned my own club, salsa dancers. Listen, I can
31:09
go to a bar, salsa club, grocery store, and pick
31:12
up a woman anytime. I'm not bragging. I'm just
31:15
saying, like, that's my past. I have a gigolo,
31:18
pickup artist, manosphere past. You know, I was
31:22
reading books about picking up women when I was
31:24
19 years old. So this is nothing new to me. The
31:28
thing what new to me is the new world of lifestyle
31:30
and understanding that like my wife is what makes
31:37
this sexy and fun and crazy because about 80
31:42
% of it I did already before I even knew what
31:44
lifestyle was on my single years in between relationships
31:48
or before. You know, it's like when you when
31:51
you part of a rap group back in the 90s, you
31:53
know, I wasn't but like 17 and I was a backup
31:56
dancer. They didn't go anywhere. But you're in
31:59
Vegas performing and there's 30 year old. damn
32:03
near model looking women jumping on you like
32:05
that's that that makes an impression on you so
32:08
it's not like i'm not used to that i'm not used
32:11
to it with a beautiful woman that loves me and
32:14
that has had my back when i was broke when i
32:17
met her i pay i pay 90 of the bills now but when
32:21
i met her she was making way more money than
32:24
i was and all i have is my own place my own stuff
32:27
but and Just got out of a divorce and just all
32:32
this stuff, and she's built me here. No, none
32:35
of this is worth her being upset or not feeling
32:38
well or us not working out. None of that is worth
32:40
that. So I can get that before I've had it. This
32:43
is not new to me. It took me a while to translate
32:46
the little things from vanilla life to swinger.
32:50
It took me longer than it should have. But people
32:53
think, oh, he's so insecure. I am insecure. I
32:57
was. Because I was like trying to figure out
33:00
how to translate it. I'm like, put me in a salsa
33:02
club. Put me in a salsa club. And you guys will
33:05
start writing, taking notes. Right. Put me in
33:08
a hip hop club as the MC. Then you'll see. You
33:13
know what I'm saying? Yeah. As far as couples
33:17
that were there, did you guys meet some interesting
33:20
couples? Talked to anybody interesting? Played
33:23
with anyone interesting? And somebody, a couple
33:26
that just like just stood out. The couple, the
33:28
husband, they were sweet. Well, I said, babe,
33:32
there's Joe Biden. So we just went over. That
33:35
was that was a good icebreaker. You know, I said,
33:37
hello, President Biden. They were, you know,
33:40
an older couple, but they had been there the
33:42
whole time. And they said it was kind of made
33:44
me a little sad because they said this is the
33:46
most friendliest interaction that we had had.
33:48
And that was Saturday night. So I was like, oh,
33:52
that sucks. But also I challenged some of the
33:54
new couples. It's like, you also can't just sit
33:57
in the corner and expect people to just come
34:00
up to you. Like to get biblical on some people,
34:03
there's a verse in the Bible that says, if you
34:05
want to have friends, you have to show yourself
34:07
friendly. And so, you know, sitting in the corner
34:10
with your arms crossed. you know, with your face
34:12
all mean. I know Socrates made it a special challenge
34:15
to go up and talk to some men that were mean
34:18
mugging everybody so he can talk about that.
34:20
But I don't know. I just, you know, as much as
34:23
I could with my mental brain power being, you
34:26
know, on 10%, I just really tried to just go
34:29
around and just talk to whoever, you know, give
34:33
hugs, give smiles. I can't really remember any
34:36
super meaningful. you know conversations with
34:41
new people just floating around because I again
34:44
during the kind of the mingle time my brain was
34:46
really not on on all out so if anyone's listening
34:50
please forgive me if I you know I did I did say
34:53
in the ladies chat if I my face was saying something
34:55
I said I was just not feeling good and sometimes
34:58
I get overstimulated and I'm just better one
35:00
-on -one there's a lady that's been trying to
35:02
get to know me I said next splash let's just
35:05
go have coffee one of the mornings just you and
35:07
me away from everybody because it's just you
35:11
know not flowing as well as I want to and I said
35:13
I just think I need one -on -one time with you
35:15
so sometimes that for me in a crowded area I'm
35:19
not so good even though I do love people it's
35:23
better for me like I have a whole bunch of friends
35:25
and we're all you know just independent strong
35:28
women but we don't necessarily get together in
35:31
a group we just get together a lot on one -on
35:33
-one and we have great times together so sometimes
35:36
for me that's that's just what I need versus
35:39
managing being a part of a crowd so so you want
35:44
to talk about one -on -one time you want to talk
35:46
about the mean mugging men mean mugging men the
35:49
mmms yeah i can i know but didn't you you were
35:52
about to say something no i was agreeing with
35:55
siren i was like when i attend an event i much
35:58
i much would rather have the one -on -one time
36:02
myself and the couple You know, when we just
36:04
get a chance to sit down somewhere and talk,
36:06
whether it be breakfast in the morning or just,
36:09
you know, going up to the room and just sit down
36:11
and just have a nice conversation away from the
36:14
group. You know, I don't care about being around
36:16
the whole crowd scene, as you know. You know,
36:21
damn where I am when I get there. So I'm with
36:25
you on that one, Sire. I get a lot out of talking
36:27
to someone one -on -one. I can really, I can
36:30
feel you then when I'm talking to you. You know,
36:33
when I can look at you and I can get close to
36:35
you and really get to know, know you. You know,
36:38
I can, I can tell then, okay, yeah, they're newcomers,
36:41
but they really, there's something in them that
36:43
wants, that wants and needs to be brought out.
36:46
So that's how I am too. But, yeah, tell me about
36:49
the mean mugging. Mean mugging men. Well, yeah,
36:52
you wanted me to speak on the couples thing.
36:54
So I just want to say, before I talk about mean
36:57
mugging, I had interactions with several couples
37:01
that I just want to say thank you. They were
37:04
both, what I noticed is how locked in they were,
37:08
how encouraging each one's were, how the husbands
37:12
were there, and the smiles on their faces. Because
37:16
there's three couples I did some very unique
37:18
things with in the play parties, in the playroom,
37:23
in the room parties. And the way the husbands
37:26
reacted just really warmed my heart. As a stag,
37:29
I love that. But the mean mugging guy, so let
37:32
me get back to the beginning. So I never said
37:35
it like this before, and it kind of made sense
37:37
to me where I'm from. When I first... Went to
37:41
Splash and Siren was like, look, we were going
37:44
to all kind of white gang bangs because where
37:46
we live, if you're going to go to a gang bang,
37:48
it's going to be all vanilla, all white people.
37:51
And it was great. That's no problem. But not
37:53
vanilla, you know, white folks, which is great.
37:56
And I've got some good friends. Maybe a couple
37:59
of Latina guys. Right. Some of them are going
38:02
to be coming to some of our parties. They're
38:03
great people. Nothing wrong with that. But she's
38:06
like, look, and I just said one to her one day,
38:08
I said, look, you just need to admit that you
38:09
are. you know queen of spades queen of spades
38:12
so long story short she said she admitted it
38:16
we we went out to a bunch of clubs everywhere
38:18
and she's just like i need to find a place specifically
38:21
for with black men so i found splash and i was
38:24
thinking okay this is for her right i've done
38:27
some stuff i've done all kind of crazy stuff
38:29
this is for her and so i found it and i was preparing
38:33
myself and my mind i was thinking I'm going to
38:37
go in there with a bunch of crips and bloods.
38:39
Like, I don't know why I was, I just thought
38:42
it was going to be some really, and I don't even
38:44
put down crips and bloods because I, but I mean,
38:47
just really disrespectful, uneducated, unsophisticated,
38:53
you know, don't know how to approach men. And
38:57
I was horribly wrong. But when I went in there,
38:59
I went in there mean mugging. I had my arms folded
39:02
and I was, you know, looking around, ready to
39:04
fight. And I was blown away at the men's meeting.
39:09
And then I was later blown away how the men treated
39:12
Siren and how well they all treated each other
39:16
and how they lifted each other up. So I said
39:18
all that to say I was talking to a fan that came
39:21
up to us and he was telling us how much he liked
39:23
the podcast and everything. And something about
39:25
Mean Muggin came up. Oh, I was talking about
39:28
Uncle Work. Because he was there. I was talking
39:30
about Uncle Work. And if you listen to the podcast,
39:32
you guys, I've talked about Uncle Work before.
39:34
But I'll talk about it again. But I was talking
39:37
about Uncle Work. He was like, yeah, man, that's
39:39
what you did the first splash. And I said, what?
39:41
Wait, what? I said, what? What you mean? He said,
39:45
man, when you got in there, dude, you looked
39:46
like you was ready to fight the first person
39:48
that came up to you. And I said, the way I describe
39:52
how I felt, I can't deny that. I never felt that.
39:55
And Siren never said that. I said, I probably
40:00
was. I didn't even notice what you were looking
40:02
like. Yeah, because your jaw was dropped looking
40:04
at all the other beautiful black men in there.
40:08
Nervous -sided. Yeah, so that's all you kept
40:10
saying is to all these beautiful black men. Never
40:12
seen so many. So what I decided to do right after
40:16
he said that was every, there was about three
40:19
of them, every, me, there was one dude, man,
40:22
I swear, he was sitting down. His wife is beautiful.
40:27
I kid you not, he's buff. He's real buff. He
40:30
is a body builder. You can just tell, you know.
40:35
He ain't got no neck. Like, he's big. And he,
40:39
a mean mug, the worst I've ever seen in Splash.
40:41
Like, I mean, this guy was, and I said, I'm going
40:44
up to him. So I went up to him, sat on the table,
40:47
and I started talking to both of them. I talked
40:50
to this dude for five minutes and asked him direct
40:53
questions. And he answered with shoulder shrugs
40:56
and looks and eye movements. And his wife would
41:01
have to answer for him. And I just kept talking
41:02
to him. And then I just said, hey, you're my
41:05
challenge. I just said straight up because he
41:07
wouldn't crack. And that's when he said, what
41:09
do you mean? And I said, my boy over here told
41:14
me when I first started coming, I used to mean
41:16
mug people. And I told him, yeah, because I really
41:18
felt like I was running too. Because I had bad
41:22
experiences in the past. So, and, you know, this
41:25
and this and that. And I said, you know what,
41:27
man, you owe her a mean mugging. And his wife
41:29
said, yes, thank you. She's like, I'm trying
41:31
to get some dick. And he's scaring everyone away.
41:33
His wife said, yes. And he just looked down like,
41:37
I know. And then I was like, hey, man, like,
41:40
I came up to you because I don't care. Yeah.
41:42
Well, let me say this, though. Think about it.
41:44
Think about it. put yourself in his shoes you're
41:47
you're a bodybuilder so i'm assuming the the
41:50
physique look like that of the pros that that
41:54
i see all the time when i go to shows okay probably
41:58
a big dude muscles everywhere vascular and veiny
42:01
etc etc cut up and you are sitting at an event
42:07
where you are going to watch your wife get beat
42:11
down by these black guys And you're probably
42:15
feeling some kind of overweight. You know what
42:17
I mean? Big time. So I can kind of see maybe
42:23
a couple going to one or two events and the husband
42:26
be, you know, he's mean mugging, but underneath
42:30
he's scared as fuck. He's scared as hell because
42:33
he doesn't, he's really feeling some kind of
42:37
weight. Like, you know, am I enough for her?
42:40
You know what I mean? She's going to get some
42:43
good dicks. She's going to open up. I'm probably
42:45
going to see her in another light, and it's fucking
42:48
with me. So that's where the mean mugging comes
42:51
from. So for you to go up to him like that and
42:55
be able to, I'm not going to say break him, but
42:57
you were able to make him feel comfortable, correct?
43:00
Yeah. In some way, shape, or form, you were able
43:03
to make him feel comfortable. I got him to talk.
43:04
That's good. I got him to talk, and he was here.
43:07
Eventually, he still didn't talk a lot, but he
43:09
was like, hey. Why are we here but not to do
43:11
that? You know, he's like, that's why I'm here.
43:14
Bodybuilding guys, unless they're talking to
43:16
personal trainers or the cats that lift, they
43:20
really are, they live in their own world, all
43:22
right? I mean, you know, I'm not a bodybuilder
43:25
or anything like that, but I'm an avid weightlifter
43:28
who lifts like a bodybuilder. So I know how they
43:32
live. I know they live. Very, very extrovert.
43:37
You know, for you to get him to do that, good
43:39
job. Good job, brother. Both of y 'all sound
43:43
like you had a very, let me see, how do I say
43:45
it, a very uplifting experience this time at
43:47
this event. Yeah. Very, very uplifting. I just
43:50
kept checking in with myself, too, because, you
43:52
know, I will not lie and say, you know, every
43:55
time that he's playing that I've been like 100
43:59
% overjoyed. Because I get FOMO or jealous or
44:03
whatever. But this time I really just kept checking
44:05
in myself and being like, okay, I don't feel
44:07
well. Am I truly wanting him to go? How am I
44:13
feeling about it? And I just felt good that he
44:15
could go. And then the experiences that I did
44:19
have were so meaningful. I played with one guy
44:22
that several ladies were turning up their nose
44:25
to because he was a little bit... He was a colorful
44:29
individual. He was a little bit maybe flamboyant.
44:34
And so some of the women, you know, they're like,
44:36
that's not my cup of tea. And I thought, why
44:39
not? Let me just see what this guy's all about.
44:42
And it ended up being one of the best play experiences.
44:45
We laid on the bed fully clothed for 45 minutes
44:49
and just talked. And I could tell he was kind
44:54
of nervous to start. And then... I could tell
44:58
we both had creative minds and just the way we
45:00
were speaking just started flowing together.
45:02
And it was just very uplifting and encouraging
45:05
and positive conversation. And then when we got
45:10
to the actual play, you know, he was talking
45:12
a lot about he likes to please. And sometimes
45:14
when guys say that, I go, okay, yeah, we'll see.
45:17
In my mind, you know, because I'm like, sometimes
45:20
they're just talking, you know. But he truly,
45:23
the way he spoke really was the way he played.
45:27
And it just flowed so well, and it was a great
45:30
time. And I just went back to a couple of those
45:33
ladies, and I said, that may not be everybody's
45:36
cup of tea, but damn, it was a good cup of tea
45:38
for me. So I really enjoyed that. And I love
45:43
finding those gold nuggets, those guys that are
45:47
just like a diamond in the rough. Maybe other
45:52
people don't see it. But when you get them in
45:56
that place where you can discover what they're
45:58
really about one -on -one, then you just really
46:01
meet some cool people that have some cool things
46:04
to offer. Well, those are your friends, Mommy,
46:06
because trust me, he got it in. Not all the women
46:09
got that. I didn't say that. No, I'm just being
46:12
funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I didn't because
46:14
he was bold. He was bold and he would just be
46:17
like, you're hot and I would like some time with
46:20
you. And he said it in such like... not a cocky
46:23
way, like I'm going to get you, you know, but
46:25
just like in a very complimentary and just like.
46:28
Very complimentary way. Yeah. And a fun way.
46:30
Like it was, it was a very different vibe. Like
46:33
some of the guys are just super confident. Some
46:35
kind of come off a little cocky. And then he
46:38
just said it in such a fun, like, Hey, I'm here
46:40
to have a good time. You know, he showed up late
46:43
for our gang bang. He was invited to that. And.
46:47
He was otherwise occupied, and by the time he
46:49
got there, we were all done. So he said, well,
46:53
you guys are hot and beautiful, and I hope that
46:55
I get some time with you later. And then he just
46:57
walked away, and then he followed up a couple
46:59
more times, and it finally worked out. So I just
47:03
encourage the ladies, sometimes when someone's
47:05
just a little bit different than what you're
47:08
used to, just give them a try. Give them a try.
47:11
It's like trying a new food. You just might like
47:14
it. You might find something there that... you
47:16
weren't expecting. So that's some good, that's
47:19
good. Some good knowledge and wisdom there for
47:22
the ladies listening. Very good. Anything else
47:25
that needs to be brought out from this after
47:28
action report, ladies and gentlemen. Actually,
47:31
I think we just need to do a part two because
47:33
we haven't even hit the scratch the surface.
47:36
There are so many other things that we discovered
47:39
together that happened that, you know, we learned
47:44
that we want to share. So I think that what we
47:48
should probably do, because we could probably
47:50
go another hour and a half. So we probably just
47:53
end it there if you want and then do a part two.
47:56
Yeah. Or maybe we can wrap it into the podcast
47:59
that we're going to do with Raven. Yeah. Yeah.
48:01
I think it's. Yeah, we could do that. That's
48:03
kind of what you're alluding a little bit. There's
48:05
more. That'll work. Okay. But either way. We
48:07
can do that one. We can, you know, there's, there's
48:10
lots of time that we can create more. So. That'll
48:13
work. That'll work. Well, then, if there's nothing
48:16
more to be said, ladies and gentlemen, you've
48:20
heard it from Siren and Socrates. Sounds like
48:24
Splash Mocha Houston was an absolute blast and
48:27
also a very, very uplifting event for them as
48:31
a couple. I'm so proud of them. Again, ladies
48:35
and gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight.
48:38
I am the Sigma Male himself, along with Brian
48:41
Morgan, along with the family, Siren and Socrates.
48:45
Until we talk again, to all the boys out there,
48:48
to my brothers, I bid you good night. And to
48:51
all my sexy hot wives, you know the deal. Good
48:54
morning. Until we meet again, y 'all, good night.