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The Late Debate | 3 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Late Debase.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening, and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 3: with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Well, what happens when
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  Speaker 3: gay rights activists and pro Palestinian activists meet in the street.
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  Speaker 3: It's not exactly tea and biscuits. We'll show you that
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  Speaker 3: later in the show when we.
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  Speaker 2: Get to the papers.
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  Speaker 3: The federal government has come up with an ingenious way
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  Speaker 3: to get more people into the military. Will tell you
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  Speaker 3: what it is. And politicians, really they should not try
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  Speaker 3: to be cool.
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  Speaker 2: It never works. It's always bad.
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  Speaker 3: And we have for you a forty four gallon drumsworth
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  Speaker 3: of cringe worthiness to show you later in the show.
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  Speaker 3: But first, Anthony Fauci, of course, the former Chief Medical
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  Speaker 3: Advisor to the US, best known for hits such as
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  Speaker 3: I Loved the nightlife before lockdowns came to town. No
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  Speaker 3: kissing in the back row of the movies because you're
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  Speaker 3: wearing a mask. And then we all know that he
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  Speaker 3: co wrote the song Don't Stand so Close to Me
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  Speaker 3: for the police.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's turned.
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  Speaker 3: Out that everything he came up with during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: or at least a lot of it, was.
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  Speaker 2: All made up.
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  Speaker 3: Today US time, he is due to give testimony for
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  Speaker 3: the first time since his retirement at a public inquiry
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  Speaker 3: into COVID, but earlier in the year he sat down
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  Speaker 3: for a two day, fourteen hour interview behind closed doors.
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  Speaker 3: Well the transcript of that interview has been released, in
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  Speaker 3: which he has asked some pretty pertinent questions about decisions
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  Speaker 3: that were made at the time, such as, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when we decided that we would have social distancing, which
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  Speaker 3: in the US he decided would be six foot, was
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  Speaker 3: there any basis for that? Had he read any studies
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  Speaker 3: that suggested that six foot would work? He said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't recall. It just sort of appeared out of
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  Speaker 3: thin air. Presumably he was not aware, he said, of
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  Speaker 3: any status that supported the concept of social distancing, and
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  Speaker 3: that it would be very difficult to conduct any such study.
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  Speaker 3: He was also asked if he had followed any studies
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  Speaker 3: into mask wearing on children. He said no. He paid
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  Speaker 3: no attention to the impact on children that it had caused,
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  Speaker 3: including that they couldn't read the words coming out of
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  Speaker 3: teacher's mouths, and that that, of course had affected their
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  Speaker 3: learning ability.
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  Speaker 2: He had not.
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  Speaker 3: Looked into whether this would be a problem before he
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  Speaker 3: instituted those rules. He's even admitted that the lab leak,
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  Speaker 3: which he four years ago poo pooed as a conspiracy theory,
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  Speaker 3: was a possibility. Isn't it amazing how all these things
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  Speaker 3: start to come undone. All these rules that we were
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  Speaker 3: told we had to follow for our own safety were
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  Speaker 3: not based on fact.
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  Speaker 2: They were basically pulled out of thin air.
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  Speaker 3: I think many people, including me, will be pulling out
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  Speaker 3: the popcorn for him his testimony overnight. I suspect that
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  Speaker 3: his discussions with his advisers and in his testimony tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: might go something like this.
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  Speaker 2: What am I going to say?
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  Speaker 1: Tell them? You make him me say?
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  Speaker 4: Brilliant?
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  Speaker 3: Brilliant?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what made Brittain great?
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  Speaker 3: Hand?
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  Speaker 1: Thirstfully?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm so sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but
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  Speaker 3: my wife has made a mistake.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how she did, but she's made a
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  Speaker 5: complete putting in the whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: Is he was a little bit perfect? Right? Would say
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  Speaker 3: I saw it all that, I'm faithful this im but
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  Speaker 3: you know what, women and they got one break between
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  Speaker 3: the lot and what not all but.
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  Speaker 5: I mean something, So please do stare and see all
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  Speaker 5: later on.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much because quite frankly, what else is
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  Speaker 3: he going to say? How is he going to dig
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  Speaker 3: himself out of this one? Li is? I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: know the blook the chief medical advisor, who you would
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  Speaker 3: hope was making decisions when we're told constant during COVID
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  Speaker 3: you know, or it's all based on the medical advice.
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  Speaker 2: It's the medical advice, the.
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  Speaker 3: Medical advice, and the medical advice it turns out, was
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  Speaker 3: literally made up on the spot with no evidence whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: Trust the experts, ladies and gentlemen, Trust the experts.
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  Speaker 1: Little wonder this.
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  Speaker 4: Guy stepped down in December twenty two after fifty four
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  Speaker 4: years of working in government. Can you imagine how many
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  Speaker 4: palms you grease, how many deals behind closed doors you strike?
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  Speaker 1: Four years in government? What was that show?
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  Speaker 4: How bigs is, how big pension is, which this guy
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  Speaker 4: is the best paid in pension terms federal employee ever.
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  Speaker 4: He's stepped away with over four hundred and seventeen thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars annually.
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  Speaker 1: For the rest of his life.
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  Speaker 4: This is the legacy of the face of the US
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  Speaker 4: COVID response. And get this, during during the pandemic, when
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  Speaker 4: his views were in vogue and he was basically the
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  Speaker 4: messiah of.
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  Speaker 1: The US and could do no wrong.
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  Speaker 4: He was more than happy to hand down these edicts
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  Speaker 4: and implore us to follow the science. But this was
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  Speaker 4: one of the many guys who said that the science
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  Speaker 4: said that the vaccine stopped transmission.
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  Speaker 1: The science is very clear on that now.
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  Speaker 4: But everything he said, he was so bulshy about it
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  Speaker 4: at the time, and in the succeeding years he's slowly
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  Speaker 4: not taken responsibility and said I made a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever hear.
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  Speaker 4: Those words come out of Fauci's mouth, But instead it's
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  Speaker 4: always complete denial, like oh, he's literally said, I've never
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  Speaker 4: locked down schools. I was never a party to that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 4: There's zero responsibility. In my books, that's the kind of
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  Speaker 4: guy he is. There's a lot of articles written about
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  Speaker 4: the narcissism of this, and he's simply, in his own eyes,
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  Speaker 4: ten do no wrong joke.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's about more than Fauci as a man.
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  Speaker 5: I think the problem is not so much that there
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  Speaker 5: wasn't a sort of perfect settled science on say, social
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  Speaker 5: distancing or mask wearing. Right now. I remember listening to
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  Speaker 5: the radio when people were saying, no, don't wear masks
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  Speaker 5: because you're more likely to fidge it with your face,
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  Speaker 5: you're more likely to touch yourself as you adjust it,
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  Speaker 5: and there you'refore you're more likely to transmit the disease.
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  Speaker 5: And I remember someone saying, yeah, there's not really any
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  Speaker 5: studies into mask wearing, whether it's effective, and things like this,
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  Speaker 5: we should probably do one, And then suddenly it's wear
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  Speaker 5: a mask otherwise you're killing people, and you're killing grandma
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  Speaker 5: and you're a murderous psychopath. And so again, I think
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  Speaker 5: if you had just said these things, if these guidelines
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  Speaker 5: had been as said, Look, it's probably just common sense
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  Speaker 5: that you're less likely to spread the disease, especially if
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  Speaker 5: it's going through you know, if it's water borne on
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  Speaker 5: you know, spittle or whatever, it's grost. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: if you're two meters away from someone, you're probably less
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  Speaker 5: likely to give it to them. Then if you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's probably better if you wash your hands. These are
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  Speaker 5: the guys like the fault. The problem was that this
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  Speaker 5: kind of you know, vibe was turned into a horrendously
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  Speaker 5: nasty and politically charged kind of doctrine or orthodoxy that
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  Speaker 5: forced people to do things. So again, was there probably
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  Speaker 5: was there a justification for some social distinct some restridents. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Does this mean we had to shut down schools or
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  Speaker 5: children's playgrounds. Absolutely not. But because people turned this kind
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  Speaker 5: of thing into a sort of almost a messianic cause,
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  Speaker 5: and people were staking their virtue on it but also
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  Speaker 5: staking their political capital on it and looking at how
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  Speaker 5: popular it was making them. By beating back this disease
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  Speaker 5: that everyone was scared of, you had this old sort
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  Speaker 5: of one two trick where you terrorize people about how
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  Speaker 5: deadly the disease is. Then you go even harder than
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  Speaker 5: you need to over it, and people go, thank you,
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  Speaker 5: dear God, thank you, dear leader for saving us from
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  Speaker 5: the disease. And so it's not necessarily the fault of
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  Speaker 5: an inni science. It's a fault of that being weaponized
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  Speaker 5: by scared and quite frankly often ignorant people with no
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  Speaker 5: sense of proportion, but also that being exploited and manipulated
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  Speaker 5: by governments and public health efficients for their own standing.
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  Speaker 3: Well was the point where it turned into mandate and
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  Speaker 3: drive and rule, where it became a problem because you
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  Speaker 3: can you can have a you can have a doctor
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  Speaker 3: stand there and say we think on the balance of
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  Speaker 3: probabilities that it's probably better if you don't stand so
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  Speaker 3: close to someone. Fine, you can choose whether or not
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  Speaker 3: you take that into account.
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  Speaker 5: Stand don't someone, then you're an evil killer and you
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  Speaker 5: need to be shots.
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  Speaker 3: And if you don't do it, there will be a
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  Speaker 3: rule to say you can be punished for doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you never forget that.
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  Speaker 3: Here in Australia, you know, we had people terrorized in
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  Speaker 3: parks for sitting there having a cup of coffee in
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  Speaker 3: the morning with no one else around them, because that
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  Speaker 3: was supposedly a danger.
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  Speaker 2: It was so patently stupid.
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  Speaker 3: And what keeps coming to light is that these decisions
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  Speaker 3: were not made on the basis of any evidence.
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  Speaker 2: They were made on.
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  Speaker 3: The basis of, well, maybe that's the right thing to do.
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  Speaker 3: And it's fine to tell people what you think is
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  Speaker 3: the right thing to do. But when you then start
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  Speaker 3: saying you're going to copy fine because you were sitting
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  Speaker 3: in the park at ten am having a cup of
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  Speaker 3: coffee when you were literally.
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  Speaker 2: Of no danger to anyone.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, there is still no evidence anywhere
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  Speaker 3: in the world of transmission outdoors.
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  Speaker 2: That's when it became.
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  Speaker 3: A joke, and that's what people like Fauci and the
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  Speaker 3: various Chief Medical offices and chief health officers in this
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  Speaker 3: country allowed to happen. I mean remember in South Australia
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  Speaker 3: when they went into lockdown pat football in know there
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  Speaker 3: was that, But in November of twenty twenty they went
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  Speaker 3: into lockdown because Nikolas Spurria thought that COVID had been
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  Speaker 3: transmitted on a pizza box.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there was no.
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  Speaker 5: Evidence anywhere in the whole formula where you have a
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  Speaker 5: very preachy, judge, comfortable inner city progressive class telling everyone
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  Speaker 5: else what they have to do for their own good,
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  Speaker 5: really your own and it's the same thing. And again
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  Speaker 5: I say this as someone who wants to see action
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  Speaker 5: on these things, but it is just so damaged. You
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  Speaker 5: see the same thing on climate change, the same thing
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  Speaker 5: on COVID, this catastrophism, this certainty, and the shaming of
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  Speaker 5: anyone who dares question it or who dares suggest a
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  Speaker 5: more moderate approach. And then of course when a crack
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  Speaker 5: appears in that certainty, when a cheek appears in that
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  Speaker 5: certainty among say mask wearing or social distancing people on
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  Speaker 5: the other well it's all bullshit. Then it's all rubbish,
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  Speaker 5: and so they throw the baby out with the bathroot,
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  Speaker 5: and some people are saying all vaccines are killing everybody
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  Speaker 5: and again, so you've got an extreme position on this
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  Speaker 5: side leads to the very extreme position on that side
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  Speaker 5: that this light think that they're actually trying to suppress,
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  Speaker 5: they're fueling it. I mean, you could write a formula
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  Speaker 5: for it. It's like going after Donald Trump for paying
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  Speaker 5: hush mantivers storming Daniels. The harder you go, and the
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  Speaker 5: more indignant and judgy and morally pure you make yourself
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  Speaker 5: out to be and morally impure you make your opponents
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  Speaker 5: out to be, the more you actually make people just
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  Speaker 5: look at you. We know what you're wrong. You're a wanker.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe you're the one who's hysterical. Maybe you're the one
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  Speaker 5: who's and fount She.
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  Speaker 4: Was also responsible, because of his seniority, for demonizing any
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  Speaker 4: doctors who were saying, you're asking us to choose between
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  Speaker 4: never being able to practice again in giving individual advice
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  Speaker 4: to individuals who we know their medical history. Very intimately,
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  Speaker 4: you're asking us to choose between that. You're basically asking
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  Speaker 4: us to throw our duty out the window and just
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  Speaker 4: follow you come what may. There's also the issue of
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  Speaker 4: the gain of function research, which throughout his career he'd
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  Speaker 4: been a very big advocate for public funding of gain
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  Speaker 4: of function research, and everyone was told, oh, no, the
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  Speaker 4: US hasn't got any publicly funded gain of function research
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  Speaker 4: happening in Wohnt.
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  Speaker 1: Yes they did.
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  Speaker 4: That's another thing that everyone knows now it's rather common
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  Speaker 4: of fact. But again, who was one of the biggest
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  Speaker 4: cheerleaders saying oh no, nothing just here when it is
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  Speaker 4: inconceivable that he didn't know that, Yes, there was some
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  Speaker 4: US funded Now I'm not saying they were involved in COVID,
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  Speaker 4: but this manipulation.
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  Speaker 5: When you say something with absolute authority and say that
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  Speaker 5: anyone who dares suggest otherwise is a liar or malevolent
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  Speaker 5: or evil or stupid, and then suddenly one little thing,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's probably completely benign the game and function
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  Speaker 5: stuff they were doing, or funding.
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  Speaker 1: The gain of function. My definition is not benign. Is
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  Speaker 1: the manipulation of.
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  Speaker 4: Virus not to make them even more deadly and more transmissible.
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  Speaker 5: That is the may not get it may not have
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  Speaker 5: been the cause of COVID, It may not actually have
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  Speaker 5: been the result of COVID. We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not insinuated.
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  Speaker 5: But the point the point. The point is once a
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  Speaker 5: little again, once a cheek in the armor, like that,
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  Speaker 5: if you if instead of just being honest with people
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  Speaker 5: and saying, listen, this is what we think is probably
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  Speaker 5: the best thing to do. Use your common sense, you know,
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  Speaker 5: protect yourself as much you can. Here is the best
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  Speaker 5: advice if you give. Once you go from that to
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  Speaker 5: saying if you do not do this, you are evil
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  Speaker 5: or stupid or selfish, and then suddenly a chink in
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  Speaker 5: that armor appears, so a little bit of uncertainly peers.
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  Speaker 5: Suddenly people like your good self or others are completely
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  Speaker 5: within their rights. And then say, well, if you lied
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  Speaker 5: about this, and you told us that this was a
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  Speaker 5: matter of life and death, then who's to say you're
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  Speaker 5: not lying about all the other stuff. And so they
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  Speaker 5: end up just kicking over their own house of cards.
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  Speaker 3: And if only we would have a royal commission into
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  Speaker 3: all of this here, I mean, you know, we.
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  Speaker 2: Were promised, if only, and the best.
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  Speaker 3: We've had is some you know, weakers piss investigation where
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  Speaker 3: the premiers aren't even forced it to.
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  Speaker 5: There will be a release of the teams of documents
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  Speaker 5: as calling the latest decision in Victoria the admissive decisions.
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  Speaker 5: Tribunal I think it is has actually said, no, you
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  Speaker 5: have to hand over all the advice, you have to
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  Speaker 5: hand over all.
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  Speaker 1: Oh glory, so.
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  Speaker 5: Truth and nail.
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  Speaker 1: We can't wait.
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  Speaker 4: Let's no one holds your breath for them to deliver
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  Speaker 4: on that.
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  Speaker 1: But we all know that.
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  Speaker 4: Certainly most of you watching would be sick to death
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  Speaker 4: of welcome to countries. Well, the Department of Justice and
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  Speaker 4: Attorney General decided to take this to a whole new level. Recently,
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  Speaker 4: were bureaucrats working at one William Street during a welcome
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  Speaker 4: to country and an awards ceremony were asked to remove
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  Speaker 4: their shoes and wiggle their toes, close their eyes so
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  Speaker 4: they would.
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  Speaker 1: Feel more connected to the earth.
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  Speaker 4: My first question upon reading this was were they even
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  Speaker 4: outside or were they asked to do this? Because it's
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  Speaker 4: an award ceremony Unless you're outside, that doesn't even make
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  Speaker 4: any sense.
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  Speaker 5: What about and die Hard? When John mcclan takes his
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  Speaker 5: shoes off so we can scrunch up, helps him, helps him?
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  Speaker 5: We could we could have an entire army of bureaucrats
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  Speaker 5: who were finally in June to fighting terrorists with submachine guns.
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  Speaker 1: Because they've done daily ground.
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  Speaker 5: Crunched up the carpet and skyscraper under their little But they.
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  Speaker 3: Keep coming up with new ideas every day, new wig.
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  Speaker 3: Is it more to kill welcomes to country? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: last week we told you the story about a bloke
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  Speaker 3: who went to a job interview and was subjected to
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  Speaker 3: either a welcome or acknowledgment of country. Now we find
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  Speaker 3: out that at an award ceremony with all these public
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  Speaker 3: servants that they've got to take their shoes off. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I could think of nothing more that would turn me
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  Speaker 3: off the idea of a welcome to country than all
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  Speaker 3: of my colleagues taking off their smelly shoes to unfool
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  Speaker 3: their smelly feet, to wiggle their toes around of it.
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  Speaker 4: I want to know how many browbeaten bureaucrats were like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I guess we got to or whether wether the the
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  Speaker 4: unspoken agreement as they looked at each other was like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because they were asked to.
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  Speaker 5: It's kind of like they're taking the knee thing. It's
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  Speaker 5: kind of like and again it's that kind of collective show,
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  Speaker 5: like if you don't do this, you must be a
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  Speaker 5: racist or you must hate We've we've got to get
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  Speaker 5: to the bottom of this thank you for a mining
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  Speaker 5: mehab because I know we talked about the guy who
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  Speaker 5: got the welcomed country of the job in the country
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  Speaker 5: at the job interview. Does that mean if he didn't
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  Speaker 5: get the job, he's not welcome in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a very good point. That is a very good.
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  Speaker 5: Surely, if it's a welcome to country, if you're doing it,
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  Speaker 5: you're saying, well, well, welcomed me here, part of the
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  Speaker 5: you're part of the family.
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  Speaker 2: You're not welcome anymore anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I think what we've learn is taking your shoes off
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  Speaker 3: to solve racism. Perhaps will pass that one onto Laura
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  Speaker 3: Tingle while we're in Queensland, because that was an event
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  Speaker 3: in Queensland. A large tract of Queensland has now been
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  Speaker 3: given over to the local Aboriginal population, or a portion
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  Speaker 3: of them anyway, through native title. We're talking about seven
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred square kilometers worth of land that stretches its
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: way towards rock Hampton and it's the Barada Cabal Bara
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yetti Malara people. And I'm sorry if I didn't pronounce
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: that correctly, but they and given native title over this
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: land through the Federal court. This month after a ten
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: year fight. Now, of course, what happens with native title
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: is someone makes an application claiming that they have an
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: ancestral connection to this land.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: In this case, it's a small.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Group of people who have traced their ancestry back to
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: five people who they say were on the land at
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: this time, and that then gives them the rights to
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: perform certain ceremonies and have certain use of the land.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: They don't have freehold access to land, of course, under
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: native title, but what it does give them is the
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: ability to camp on the land. It gives them the
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: ability to hunt on the land, and of course it
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: allows them to make money off the land, and this
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: is where it becomes important. They can't use it for
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: commercial purposes. But what happens now is you have these
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Aboriginal land corporations set up and they then deal with
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: government outfits and electricity companies and whatever when they look
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to do any kind of work on the land. And
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: we've seen a few examples of this out of South Australia,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: particularly the Barangala people, who of course were successful in
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: scuppering a nuclear waste dump near Kimber because they had
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: so much money in the bank that they were able
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to go off to the court and fight it. Now
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: they're also fighting against a desalination plant because they say
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the place where it will go will interrupt some old
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: fish traps in the water. And the way these land
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: corporations make their money is by doing deals with big business,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: particularly electricity companies and mining companies that want to do
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: stuff on the land. You know, they do cultural studies
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and they advise them on where they should or should
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: not go, and for that they get millions and millions
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: of dollars. So through native title they actually build up
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: a big bank by which they can start dictating to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: government and everyone else what they should and should not
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: be allowed to do.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I have no issue with.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Saying, sure, come through and hunt on the land. I
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: particularly couldn't give a toss. But when it starts turning
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: into a venture that allows these land corporations that operate
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: under different corporate law to the rest of corporate Australia.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: And if you go through and read some of their
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: annual report, it's a bit murky as to where they
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: are where the money goes.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: But they have real power now because of these.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I had absolutely no problem with this whatsoever. As you say,
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: there are often question marks over exactly how that money
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: is spent and who it goes to. And there's often
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: competing voices in the community, as often competing elders. So
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: for example, there might be a bunch of people and
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: you see this often with you know, Twiggy Forest minds.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Quite famously, we have a bunch of Averaginal people who
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: definitely want the mind to go ahead because they want
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: the jobs that go with it and the betterment that
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: go with it. And you have Aboriginal businesses that are
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: often prioritized and these projects they should be. And that's
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: good because we want to do things like tackle Indigenous
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: employment and tackle Indigenous education, make sure that these guys,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: you know, have as much a strong future here as
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the rest of us. So often often you know, Indigenous
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: people aren't just one sort of homogeneous thing, will think
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: the same way. We know that and again sometime, look,
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: we all know there were things like, you know, the
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: ridiculousness of the secret women's business decades ago.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That stopped the hind Marsh Island.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: We've been built to hein Marsh Island. But if it's
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: if it's legit, and if it's actually doing it, I
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: have no problem whatsoever you've got You know often you
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: know big mining companies or energy companies making it absolute
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: matza out of this land. It has been their land
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: before we came along. If they're taking it, and if
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: they're using that money, and if they're being reasonable and
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: using that money for the betterment of their people, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: have no problem with it whatsoever.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But we don't have approve.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: How much of Queensland isn't native title now, because I
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: still remember reading a ministerial media whatever they put out
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: by Scott Stewart, who was the Minister of Resources back
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: in July twenty one for Queensland, saying veryly that now
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: one third of Queensland was recognized as native title, and
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I remember thinking at the time, gee, whiz okay, that's
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: a fair whack. Now we're talking about another chunk. And
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much has happened in between that,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: but we are now talking about ginormous packages of land.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Check Out this map of the entire nation which is
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: on the government's website. This is the native title state
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of play ten years ago. They haven't gotten updated one
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: on their website. Why is that government, mister transparency so blue?
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: It islaments, the claimant native title is approved, the dark
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: green is sorry, the blue is there. There's claims in place,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: So who knows what that looks like now because ten.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Years ago those claims are in place.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: The dark green that is exclusive natal Native title r.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: The pale green is non exclusive natal Native title territory.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: So when we talk about native title and we talk
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: about these parcels of land now being recognized as a
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: native title, I always just remember this map because there's already.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Affect none of those I just told you.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Affecting our lives. We've got a decil in.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Terms of people are having in terms of people have
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: a millions waste of square kilometers who want to develop
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: it or want to use it for mining or agriculture
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: or whatever. Yes, they have to go.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: How it affecting our lives. You just heard how it's
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: affecting our lives.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Nation building projects are getting scuppered because a handful of
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Indigenous Australians are saying no, you don't like it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: So it seems like this get contested all the time.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: There's a decl nation plant that was proposed for Sydney
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: that Penny people opposed that it wasn't indigenous people. It was
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: everyone else.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Well, this is a rather no, because in the case
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: of the nuclear dumping Campbell, wasn't.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: It kim Kimber.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: My apology I need.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Campus people of Kimber.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Literally went to a vote.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Over sixty percent of them said yes, we want this
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: nuclear waste dump. It'll bring us jobs, et cetera, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: so on. The Bongala people who got that scuppered weren't
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: included in the vote because.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: They didn't live there.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: They were actually just reaching far too a thingle to
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: be like this thing in Kimber.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: There are plenty of There are plenty of people. There
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: are plenty of residents action groups that as wide as
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: the driven snow, that oppose everything, including you know, it's
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: half the reason we've got a housing shortage, about plenty
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: of mosques opposing plenty of nuclear reactors power. And I
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: think just to single out one particular group across the
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: entire nation.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: But I can.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I can go off and start, and you know, let's
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: use my example. I live in the inner West of
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Sydney amongst all the lefties. So I don't think my
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: residence group's going to get much support, but I can
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: start the Inner West action group or whatever it might be.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: But I can't just go around making money out of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: surveys that have been done on the land, because you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I only have the patch of land that I live in, whereas,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: of course with native title, they get vast tracts of
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: land from which they are being able to make money
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: that flows into They didn't live on it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: They weren't there years ago, were they.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Well sure, I mean my ancestors lived on land near
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: gaul Or in South Australia.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: But I don't have any claims to.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: That land, to it. But this is land that your parents,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: land that your parents had would come down to You
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: understand that the land gets bequeathed down the generations, right,
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: you have a will, you might get your parents house
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: when they pass on, you might give your house to
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: them down the track. You know how that works, right, So.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's a very different system.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: But sure, so you know that like terror nullius no
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: longer applies. But they had the land, but we have come.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: But you're suggesting that from that point onwards that Aboriginal
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: people have been removed from the ability to gain freehold
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: old land.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: They haven't, no, but they have been removed from the
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: land that they lived on.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: But what do you think haven't in every other country
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: on the face of the planet when.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: All data Title says is all right, you just have
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: to consult these people on these things. And yes, sometimes
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: money changes hands, or sometimes people want projects to go ahead.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Sometimes they don't want projects to go ahead. It's not
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: a cookie cutter approach where they're just blocking everything. And
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: usually when they're blocking something that everyone else wants, it
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: gets called out and it gets found out. And that's
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: why you have things like the hind Marsh Bridge, or
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: like the nuclear dump site. I guarantee you there'll be
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: plenty of non Indigenous people who wouldn't want a nuclear
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: dump site anywhere near their looks.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: The majority small handful of people who by.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Virtue have a four handful of blocking.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Look at Western City Airport. Look at Western City Airport.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: It took seventy years to get off the ground.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Because all hands talking about.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: People complaining about aircraft in.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: The past come bearable. And you know it, that was
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: not of Native title. That's a pile of people saying.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I don't want to pile.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: They are valid concerns.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Everyone's I don't want the value of my house because
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I'm in the flight path being being made.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: We should have blocked the airport from people who bought
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: their house thereafter already been zoned for an airport. But
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: we should not even consult with people have lived on
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: the land.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: They have never this generation of Asis have never lived
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: on the land in the way that you're describing. As
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, and as far as many Aussies
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: are concerned, they have no more claims to land.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Then you don't.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: You can still say that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: But they're not living in the communities, Joe. You know that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: And the people who were you talking about that, the
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: people who end up in charge of these Aboriginal land
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: corporations that then rather they don't.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't say none of them, not all of them
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: live in the community.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: You know that most of them, dear anyway, Let's move
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: on to Pride Month in the US. If you weren't aware,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: incase you probably are aware, because it's a bit hard
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: not to take note as June is set aside in
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: its entirety for Pride Month, and we know how much
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: time everyone else gets.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Usually get a day.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: If you're very lucky, you'll get a week, But if
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: you are LGBTQ plus whatever you might want to add
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: on the end, you get an entire month, and they've
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: kicked off in the US with the Navy. Of course,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: there's nothing else to worry about in the US at
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the moment. There's no rising China, nothing else with which
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: they should be concerned. They have joined in, of course,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the chorus of virtue signaling that unfurls at this time.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Of year every year.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: Take a look at this post here from the Navy
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Seals talking up how important this time of year is,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: you know, a dignity, service, spector quality.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: On and on it goes. It staggers me.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Every corporate outfit, nearly every corporate outfit in the world
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: this time of year decides that they're going to slap
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: something on their Facebook page or slap something on their
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Twitter page right and say.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at us.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: You know, we're all on board with lgbt isn't it lovely?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: It's all about pride. If you go and check their
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: pages over in the Middle East. Of course, the Navy
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Seals don't have a page over in the Middle East,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: but you go and check all these businesses and their
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: stuff in the Middle East. There's no mention of pride
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: anywhere is the It is the ultimate corporate It's the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: ultimate corporate virtue signaling, and it means absolutely nothing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I mean and no wonder.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: We talked about this on the showdown last night, Joe,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: But I mean, no wonder. People don't want to sign
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: up to the military. And we'll get to that in
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the papers as well a bit later. When you know,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I think I'm going off to defend my country. No,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: We're actually going to talk about pride.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Isn't that?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Forever?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Everyone in America this meme that you're about to seize
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: an accurate depiction of their life during the month of June.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They just want to go about their lives and they
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: have this Can we get that meme up?
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: They have this propaganda basically funneled down their necks every
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: single day.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not the one I had in mind.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: New South Wales also stood for naval special warfare.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: But of course this came to a head when pro
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Palestinian protesters clashed with a Pride parade, in which we
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: see a wonderful example of the left eating itself because
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I think my issue is more important than yours, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: you think your issue is more important than mine.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Here's a little bit of how it went down.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: But Queers for Palestine right, So I would have thought
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: it would have just turned into an even bigger party.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Here's a little clip of a fellow in Palestine. It's
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: actually longer than this, but we got it down to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: just one.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: For you being us Queer's for Palestine. Are you happy
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: for their support?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Adam Palestine like you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Against that totally?
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Why why don't you need the support?
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Madame Pales, but I'm he said that was to say
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: it is against for general being engaged. Maybe we should
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: show that to Quiz for Palestine and see how much
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: their support fares in the face of that. But here's
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: the mem I was trying to get up earlier, of people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Just trying to live their lives, try to go about
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: their business.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: And as you and I know, when Marti Gras is
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: in town, it's a little bit similar. There is absolutely
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: no way of going about your everyday life without having
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: some sort of LGBTI propaganda shoved down your throat, even
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: if you just ventured out for a cough.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, at least Marti Gras is a one night event,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: and I know it sort of morphs out into a week.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: But I mean, seriously, why do you need an entire
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: month for Pride? When we talked about the Navy Seals before,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know here in Australia, if you're in
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: the military, you get Anzac Day and you get Remembrance Day.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: But you know, if you gay, you get a full month.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Why do you need an entire month for Pride?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Why can't you just have you one day?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: Maybe they get it done. You know, you got to
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: think about, Hey, look what you're gonna do. You're gonna
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: tell where you're going to go, what you're going to order.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Come on, it's a party. You got to relax, Oh,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: come on it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: But it's just out of control. And have a look
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: at this out of Orlando. This is a hotel.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: The hotel had been hired out for an event for
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Pride month. And if we've got a photo here, I
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: think of this teddy Bear bondage themed teddy Bear that
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: was shown out the front of the hotel.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: We don't have a photo of it, sorry, but it
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: was just the whole thing.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Well, put it this way, put it this way.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's a peak.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: It is a pink to purple inflatable teddy bear that
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: would be about ten to eleven foot high with a
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: ball gag in its mouth and bondage gear on.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, I looked at this well.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't have to look at it for very long
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: to gather what was on it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: But now the hotel, it didn't speak for itself the hotel.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: The hotel received complaints and they took it down. What
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: is surprise?
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: Why even do that in the first place. I've always said,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: what you do in the bedroom is none of my business.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Keep the government out of the bedroom, and that's exactly
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: how it should be.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But the bedroom is no longer in the bedroom. The
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: bedroom is everywhere for these kinds.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Of things, and it raises a lot of questions.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Remember just last year we had some similar graffiti put
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: up here in Sydney of I think it was also
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: a teddy bear wearing bondage, and some legend went out
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: there and painted over it. Liz saw a condoned graffiti
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: right there, and I said on air, how great I
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: thought that was. That I got several dms from people
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: being like, oh, you liked my works, did you? Because
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: when you're right, when it comes out of the bedroom
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: and is flagrantly, especially using a Teddy bear, which again
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: that's recognized as something kids gravitate towards, not question about.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: None of us want to know it's not that later show.
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: Joe to be Bears, not Gilligans. There are no kids there,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I can.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Promise with that far more important matters now, Bill Shorten
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: has decided. Although he says it wasn't his decision to
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: have a speech writer being paid three hundred thousand dollars
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a year, this is more than most sitting MPs. Their
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: base salary doesn't come near that, but he is him saying, yeah, look,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: it wasn't even my decision.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I just ended up with this guy. What am I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: supposed to do about it?
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: I think that service the hiring of a speech writer
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: was done by Service Australia. I had no idea what
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: the payment was, so if you're trying to link me
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: to that, you know, good luck. The point about it
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: is the person involved is a speechwriter does a very
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: good job. I'm not responsible for negotiating a contract.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: We would hope he does a very good job.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Although your speech is don't quite reflect that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: What do they should be guilted with gold? Right now?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Also, this excuse of oh I didn't know, he was
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: just handed to me.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: How was I supposed to know?
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, now you're aware, you're not going to do
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: anything about it. This is the minister responsible for welfare
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: in this country.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: That's essentially what he looks at.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: After that, here he is while Australia suffers and groans
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: underneath the cost of living crisis that is putting the
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: middle class and everybody else underneath, to bringing them to
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: their knees, and he was all.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Like, hah, well he's also he's also the main responsible for,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: of course cutting the waist out of the nda IS.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: But before very good, before Julian Stewart writes into complain
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that you've missed jin her.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: She she is a woman.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Before before she went off to work for Services Australia
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: on three hundred thousand dollars a year, which like, if
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: you're a staff or a speech writers as a political staff,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: you'd been on about one hundred and forty at the
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: good end of things, so three hundred is pretty good going.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But before going to Services Australia, Missus Stewart was a
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: speech writer to Alan Joyce at Quantas, so I'm not
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: sure how good an endurance and was then a speech
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: right to the vice Chancellor of University of New South Wales. Now,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I can't blame her for taking to three hundred thousand
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: dollars a year.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I understand she's not Bill Shorton's speech right, sure, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: she is a woman. She is not Bill short and
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: speech right. She's not employed, she.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Is not in his she's not employed in his office.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: But part of her job description is to write speeches
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: for Bill Shorten.
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, but he clearly had no idea who she was,
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: or why she'd been hired, or that she'd been hired,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: or how much you'd been hired for. So obviously, when
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: you are a minister, you have departmental the aison officers,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: so you have people in your office who either are
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: from the department to give you advice what they know
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: based on being a public service, so they're non political, right,
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: And you have people who, of course these services you
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: can call upon if you want them, but they are
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: not your staff. So he did not hire this speech writer,
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: and indeed, if you had to hired a speech wrider
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: would have been made. Well.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Look, I think there is one question on many people's
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: lifts and art, that is who leaked this story. Therein
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: might lie some interesting bits and pieces. After the break
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: we'll get into the papers. We'll talk about the ingenious
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: idea from the federal government to get people into the military.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: They just won't be Australian that. After the break.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Radio, let's get into the papers, starting with the Courier
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Mail tomorrow, where they say exclusive ADF's plans to fix
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: recruitment crisis. An army of foreigners, foreign citizens, including New
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Zealanders presumably ones that Andrew Charles has had no connection to,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and permanent residents from the UK, US, Canada and Pacific
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Island nations will be able to join the Australian Defense
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Force in a move to tackle the nation's military recruitment crisis.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: They've got to do something, I suppose to try and
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: get people involved. But as we were talking about last night,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I think part of the problem is that people don't
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: want to defend their country because they've been told that
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: there isn't much here worth defending, so why would you
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: sign up in the first place. The population is far
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: greater than it used to be, and yet we struggle
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: to get enough people to fill spots in the military.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: And to their six point plan that they rolled out
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: last year.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: We come on, we'bout six point plan.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: It's popular.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: As of January first, the ADF is seven percent, well
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: over four three hundred people short of their authorized strength,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: which is something like six just over sixty five thousand.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: So clearly nothing's worked. This has been snowballing for years now,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: and I think the Career mail, I mean, good on
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: them for the concerning headline, but when you read those
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: countries New Zealand, UK, US, Canada, Spacific islander nations, you're like,
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: here around, mates, that's okay.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: They're the people we'd be relying on to defend us anyway,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: like we're not going to be fighting China on our own.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Spoiler alert. Also, this is exactly what This is exactly
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: what made the Roman Empire last for one thousand years
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: or two thousand years, depending on how you count it. Obviously,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I like to go right up into the fall of
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Constantinople in the late obviously, but this is perfect. I
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: think this is very, very sensible. And yes, we do
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: have more people these days than we used to, but
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: they're older. The reason why we have to rely on
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: immigrants coming here and doing jobs for us, as well
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: as joining our army is because we are not having
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: enough babies. So unless you're getting out there and having
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: one one for that and one for the country, you
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: have no right to complain about immigration or foreigners.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I can get behind, that's right. Yeah, come on people.
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: Personally, I'm too pusched to push, so you can just
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: get a cut out. It's fine anyway. How you doing
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: that for another I've done that. I'm fine, that's right. Okay,
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah you are you.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: One of these you know, small number of men that's
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: actually had a child, Joe, because you said you didn't push,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: you had to cut out.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's well. Firstly, I find your assertion that men
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: can't have children to be offensive. Stop stopped me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: So tonight we've misjindered someone and now I have.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Offended men who have babe.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: I am a very proud Okay, that's going to go.
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: That's not the moving number of days since Charles last
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Blunder reads the front page of the Australian Spoiler Alert.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Zero Immigration minnes Andrew Giles has admitted he falsely claimed
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: criminals released from detention were being monitored by drones because
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: it simply did not make any bloody sense whatsoever, even
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: as he was saying, sorry, that's not what the story says.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: But how again, like what I don't honestly, I'm trying
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: to feel sorry for Andrew Giles at this point, so
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: we'll move on from that. I just don't understand, Like
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I don't feel so, is it like The Avengers where
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Falcon has a little buzzy drone just following people around
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: or just hanging outside? What? How did he picture it
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: in his head?
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: It was Senator James Patterson's tweet today being like, here's
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Giles's drone whatever it is, drone program in action, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: there's just some dude dancing around with this bird looking
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: drone hovering around his kneecaps.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: So this is now just a running joke.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: But you're quite right, why would you even bother making
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: up such a massive being like.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, everyone's safe. They're being monitored by drone.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: Saying the department this is advice he got from his
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: career apartment.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: He's he's blaming.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Let's pretend that you know you're Andrew Giles, you're the department.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Oh well, you know, we're using drones to monitor detanism.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: How like, how how does that work, like what like,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: wouldn't you It's kind of like saying I've invented a
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: cold fusion reactor using a pizza.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: But it just proves what it proves what a dunderplunker.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: This part from that, everything in the Albaneze government is
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: going really really well.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, great.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: He is such a dunce that he was supposedly advised
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: by the department that they were using drones to monitor
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: these people, and then he's like, jeez, I really need
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: an easy win here. I'm going to go into this
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: interview with Kieran Gilbert and say that we're using these
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: drones even though I've been given no further information on
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: what they are, or how they work or how they
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: do their job because they don't exist. But it's going
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to look good on Telly when I go on and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: tell Kira and that.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Also now he's here apologizing it made.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: It's the same department who's blaming for giving him all
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: the other misleading advice that he double check.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: That one he claimed that he didn't get the advice,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: and now he says.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: That it's say, how are we monitoring the detainees? You know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: it was the Director General from the Department. Oh, we're
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: using iron Man. We've got the flying Purple people letter
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: comes in and chases them around the country. Anyway. Second, yeah,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: I liked it in the eyes my cat boss's career
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: quote online. No, he hasn't got a website. It's on
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: the line. Lawyers for Northern Territories Anti Corruption sheet. Oh god,
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: I love the territory. Michael Riches offered his wife twenty
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: thousand dollars to stop her complaint against him being decided
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: in a court hearing, saying the matter would end the
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: senior Laura for Enforcements officials career if it were to
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: come in front of a judge. Well, you got that right.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: How dumb?
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: I just don't under how dumb can you get? And like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: not only are you just you know, some bloke doing it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You've got your lawyers.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: You are the anti corruption bloke and your lawyers have gone.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Off to the white But this is honey, trust me,
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: I'm an anti corruption officer. I know how bad this
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: is going to look.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Going to get me too good to the bright name
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of the herald Son.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Now new SRL tax via the Suburban rail loop tax
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: should be on the cards as the Allen government scrambles
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: to find ways to plug the mega projects multi billion
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: dollar black hole.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Because that's what Victoria needs right now.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: Another tax, that's what you guys need down there.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, isn't the multi billion dollar black hole
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: just another name for Victoria.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so far they've just ruled out not doing it,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: which means they're probably going to do it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: That's right. Well, but I still don't have trained to
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: the airport.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: No, they don't have it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: They don't have anything because of course some round and round,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: but not to anywhere. The last time that there was
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: actually a big infrastructure road infrastructure project in the pipeline,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the East Westlink, mister Andrews got rid of it and
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: then invented other ones that are far more expensive and you've.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Got to pay for it. The States broke. Let's go
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to the advertisers tomorrow.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Three year old Kindy's seven hundred and fifteen million dollar costs.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: The state budget will include seven hundred and fifteen million
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: dollars over five years to deliver preschool for three year
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: olds in South Australia. Kindy for Tops will be delivered
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: to long day care providers from twenty twenty six and
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: ow the kindergarteners will phase in between twenty twenty six
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: and twenty twenty third twenty thirty two, because of course
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: everyone has to be off being good little worker. But
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: he's earning their attacks for the governments.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: How dare you be at hope brilliant? The universal preschool
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: is the most brilliant I know, Dominic Parita.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is what Albany he has always SAIDNY one
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: of universal kindy, universal preschool.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: How about you.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Support mothers to stay at home with their own children,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: free money to give those kids over to you so
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: that the state can raise them while these women go
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: back to work, which is not where the vast majority
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: of them one to be.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: They want to raise their own increase paral.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: They just interest the length of time and the rate.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Ye.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: But because you've popped out a kid, I'm talking about
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: staying at home and raising your own children instead of
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: handing your little three year olds over.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: To the state to raise. Because the government just wants
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: your tax money.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly, and as I've seen, as I've said many times,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: they should just give the money that they give to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: childcare subsidy to people cash in hand families if they
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: want to look after the kids at home, but they
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: don't do that because they don't make tax if you're
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: not at work.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we are going.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: To show you one of the most cringe worthy ofpisodes
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: from a politician ever.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think it can be beat that's coming out now.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Liz tell us about a senator in Canada who wanted
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: to get down.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: With the youths.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: So she's presenting a bill to reduce the voting age
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: to sixteen. Sounds a bit like the Greens. Maybe it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: trendy amongst people with barely a firing neuron between them.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: So she thought, well, while I'm presenting this, I'm going
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: to try and appeal to those young people.
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: Here she goes, honorable fam reading the vote until eighteen
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: is a big yikes and mad sugar. But as to
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: a one hits different, today's youth slays and stays busting.
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: That's why we got to give them.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: A chance to clap back.
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: If not, how will we be able to see that
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: they eat that up? No cap, This bill slaps and
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: is electoral glow up. I am its number one stand
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: for real MESSI thank you, nyaw with you.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: The harder they try to be cute, the more vomitous
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: it is. Also, who's watching that and being like, oh, yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: now I'm going to vote for it. Only the members
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: in parliament get a vote for crying out loud like.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: That was meant to be a speech in favor of Laura.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: It's so.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: It looked like she was suffering from some kind of
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: medical episode.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she can do.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: You with your opposition being like the state of our
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: sixteen year olds.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: This is how they talk. It's barely legible, and these
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: guys should be allowed to vote.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I think she was having an aneurysm at the time. Politicians,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: please just don't try to be cool.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: It never ever works.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: Before we go, there's a mob is set up in
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Manly in Sydney. They're calling themselves the Pea Patrol because apparently,
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: particularly during summer, a bunch of drunken lauts like to
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: go down to es Esplanade Park at Manly Cove and
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: get on the beers, as Daniel Andrews once said, and
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: they then go and urinate all over everyone's fences. And
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: of course they've been complaining about this for a while,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: no one's been able to do anything about it. The
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: area is colloquially known as the office in the local area,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: so the locals are now going around filming and taking
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: photographs of people pissing on their fences in an effort
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to get rid of them.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Although I was interested in the coverage of this cub
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: because it says the revelers urinately outside homes are causing
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: a quote world of pain. If that's happening, you really
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: should consult.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: A do well. At the very least they're pissed off anyway.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: That's it from us to night up next to the
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: rid of Paddy Show.