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Looking Within According To WADE NORRIS From OUR LAST ENEMY · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Hi, this is way from our last enemy. We've got a new EVP,
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  as Within so Without coming out shortly. Then we've about to support Amazon
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  from Sweden. Yes you are, I'm my friend. Thanks for joining us.
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  Not a problem. So your new EP that you've got coming out his
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  chord as Within so Without. Now I've just found out only just end that
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  she was supposed to be dropped on August A, and E for Us has
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  been pushed back to all September twenty second. Is everything all right? Yeah,
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  everything's fine. We're just sort of there's not a little bit more time
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  in the oven to make sure that we get the release right. We've got
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  a few things sort of coming out with it that we're quite lining up,
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  and we thought, you know, it's a few extra weeks, you know,
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  won't hurt anything. It's actually a whole new model like that. These
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  is in the love Before I used to just record the album then you just
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  put it out. But now there's so much, so much else to think
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  about. You got to think about your marketing and promotion releases. It's just
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  it's not it's not a fun game anymore, really in some respect, is
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  it? No? Not really? When the other thing is you're going to
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  try to line up shows around releases, and it's getting harder and harder for
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  bands out there to find available venues you don't also don't want to clash with
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  like the Absolute Tired of It's and international bands that are coming over, which
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  I guess it's lucky for us because we're manage to get on this show,
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  which is going to be a massive one. But yeah, it's like,
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  you know, the environment we're in, the venue is closing their avenues to
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  just can't I guess, afford to take a risk on a heavy metal night.
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  It's just yeah, it's wild. Yea. So tell us a bit
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  more about the EP from a musical point of view, broad what are you're
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  going for with it? All? Right? So I just lost you for
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  a second, but I guess yeah, from a musical perspective, it's sort
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  of like the the second part of the last EP that released, we're sort
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  of all written together, it was recorded together, and then the world fell
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  apart, so it was sort of it's a little bit longer to finish,
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  so it's I guess there's there's there's a couple of I guess different sort of
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  tracks on this one, and they're sort of hard to explain. Like the
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  final track is probably a bit more melodic than we're known for. The opening
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  track actually as an acoustic intro, which you wouldn't expect from our Last Enemy
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  ever. But at the same time, it's still sounds like our last Enemy.
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  So we're just trying to broaden their horizons at the end of the day.
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  And I mean that the next one's already got some weird things going on,
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  but that's a fair way off at this point. We'll concentrate on this
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  one for now. Yeah, exactly. But last thing, You're got to
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  always look forward, don't you. It's just let's just how you got to
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  do it. One of those songs on the album bro we are Still Breathing.
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  It also features a guest turn from CJ McMahon from ARTI's murder Maids.
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  So what was it like working on music with him? Well, that was
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  a funny one how that came about. So it turned out that our singer
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  Ali guested on one of CJ's old band's first releases when when he was I
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  guess bigger and more important than c J. I'm about to boy c Yeah,
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  it was just like you know, in the Sydney scene at the time,
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  so it was like, I should call in a favor and yes,
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  but CJ was awesome. It was just like, yeah, it was happy
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  to help, happy to lay down some tracks and just yeah, it turned
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  out pretty well. He fit the song really well. I won't you say
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  Oli called in a favor, like I'm sure the rest of you guys would
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  going like yeah ideo made Baja said app But once CJ actually said yes,
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  that would have been a bit of a buzz. I am for sure.
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  I mean, I mean, we always hope that Ollie doesn't lie to us,
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  but this time, this time he came through. You know, he's
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  a pretty pretty trustworthy guy most of the time, and so we we tend
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  to believe him now when he when he has ideas. I mean at the
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  end of the day, like they were, they've been friends for years,
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  and it was just it was a good chance to get him on the release.
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  So the EP as within so without it's only got five songs on there
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  made, so we've got a bit of time. Why don't you run us
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  through each song individually and tell us a bit more about it. The first
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  one was the text design. Yeah, so hext design that one you'll probably
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  be hearing a little bit sooner than the rest. Not that I'm giving out
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  any inside of what song was coming out next to the video or anything like
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  that, but it's it's got an almost country Yeah, it's got a bit
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  of a country vibe. I guess it's a bit straightforward. It's not really
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  that much of it. It's not like it's a country song or anything like
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  that, but it's just it's a bit of a party banger. We didn't
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  try to think too hard on it and just wanted to get people up of
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  the floor and moving. That's the easiest way to describe that one. And
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  the next one you've got is Blessed the Fall. Yeah, that one is
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  probably one of the heaviest songs we've ever done, so sort of to come
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  after the party bangers. Yeah, basically Blessing the Apocalypse, which we've all
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  sort of been through and we're coming back out of. Yeah, it's it's
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  like a very I guess you could almost say like Fear Factory Ministries style inspired
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  track, but it's gonna yeah, gotta big sort of fist pumping chorus.
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  That one's my personal favorite, all right, And then we've got Still Breathing
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  with c J, which we've probably spoken about. But after that, you've
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  got Slave for Me, which was another one of the singles. Yeah,
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  so I guess yeah. Slave for Me was another one movie we decided just
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  to see what seem what came out and not worrying about, you know,
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  letting a genre of the finest. There's even a like a trip hop bit
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  in the middle of the song. It's just yeah, a lot of different
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  movie samples and whatever we adnoited as we can put in there, a lot
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  of dissident notes, but then also a big hooky chorus. So we're just
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  sort of we're trying to stick too much within the box. We're just see
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  what comes out and hope that people dig it. Just yeah, you do.
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  Now, I've never learned to speak French very well, mates, so
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  I probably get this next one pronunciation wrong, but add undoes. Yeah,
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  so that's actually yeah, it's Latin. What it means to the waves,
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  it's that that's the one where we get a bit atmospheric. And I don't
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  really want to give too much out about that one here. It's sort of
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  you'll you'll hear it when you hear it. It's different. Well, moving
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  on, then shall we say you John, thank you returned on drums?
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  Mate, like you can't miss his his sound Kenya, No, it's just
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  got that lots of double kicks, he likes them, a lot of massive
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  fills. It's yeah, just the typical big drum sound. Could just tell
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  us thank you on anything like he sounds tough and it's training when he's not
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  speaking. Your previous releases above so below it was a massive critical and commercial
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  success, bro, so putting an extra pressure on you. Probably already recorded
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  this one, so not on that side of it, But when it comes
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  to releasing it, does it put more pressure on you? Well? I
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  guess it does in a way because I guess we need to hope that people
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  like it as much as the last one. Personally, I like this one
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  more, but I guess everyone always says that, don't they something new?
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  But at the end of the day, like I think, it's not like
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  a it's like a yin and yang. They're both opposite sides of the coin,
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  really is I mean you're better of just having both of them? Yeah?
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  Yeah, when you say both opposite sides of the coind we don't want
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  people to get confused here, like that they both sound the same. They're
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  just different sides of your personality, are there, Yeah, a little bit.
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  Who knows, Like, I mean, there's enough to be for it.
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  Maybe one day you'll do some sort of the last set with both of
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  them. It's just really I guess they just go together. It's easy way
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  to describe it. Very similar sound, but also the songs were quite a
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  bit different. I mean, I think the whole process with both of these
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  when we were writing them was just not worried too much about it. Oh
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  does this sound like an our last enemy song? It was just like a
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  you know, do we like the song? Is just something that we enjoyed
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  the players at the band, and if if that's the case, just go
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  for it, because I mean, otherwise you just still end up repeating the
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  same thing, don't you know sort of and you go, oh, yeah,
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  we've got our formulas the formula, but the song around sort of went
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  that's just not worries too much about that. We'll see what comes in.
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  I mean, at the time all this was written where they're you know,
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  when I was joining the band as well, so I guess that changed enough
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  from previous previous releases. But it was just like it, let's just see
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  what it comes out. And we're Yeah, like I said, we're still
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  pushing to not really sit in the single genre. I mean it all falls
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  around being heavy and loud and screaming. But that's all. That's all it
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  should be. Under though it's heavy and loud and scream who gives a fuck
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  about sub genres and all that bullshit? Like are you You've been surprised,
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  but I just got to I can't handle it, Like I feel like sometimes
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  we were sort of getting into that lovely position where we've got we're too heavy
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  for the goths and we've got too many sins for the metal heads, so
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  you're the outcast. Yeah, and then that's fine, Like you know,
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  it's a little bit of fun. I mean, if you think about,
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  like how many sins to Slip and I have, there's a lot there.
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  It's just all part of the giant because you're looking at them, you're not
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  looking at what they're doing, so they got the visual aspective takes away from
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  that. But you're right, so you mentioned this, you can't have for
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  a second there I lost you. I'll let that be out. Yeah,
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  And he brought this up before but you've got to like a show with a
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  little little band called Avatar coming up who are making their way to Australia for
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  the first time. And I interviewed oh yesterday. Bro. I've never even
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  listener before, but I listener before the interview and they are seriously fucking good
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  that band. Yeah, I think there's another case of like European bands who
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  are as well known here finally getting out here, but they deserve it.
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  It'sessentially what is it if you ever listened as a song chimp mosh and it
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  just goes off and it's and it gets stuck in your head. And I
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  mean, I mean, they've got one of their tracks, we's got like
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  millions of views on YouTube, like because you know they're massively over in Europe
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  but ware very far away. Well, they've been actually called the world's greatest
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  one of the world greatest ever live bands. That's that's I asked him about
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  that, and he's like, he's pretty confident that they can pull it off.
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  So I'm excited. I'm excited enough to I was going to be in
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  the audience if I wasn't playing. So you guys don't go too bad yourself
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  either, Bro, like a court you in Brisbane when you supported Powerman five
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  thousand you guys, you guys hold your own pretty well. Cheers. Yeah.
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  I mean that's the whole thing. You have to try to make sure
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  that you know, when you're playing live, I don't want to sound too
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  much like the CD you and you want to just put it up to like
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  eleven. You know, it's like you just trying to get the sound as
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  big as possible. And when we when we supported Powerman, but our bass
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  player was sound checking people outside the thinking it was raining, because it was
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  shaking the entire venue, and that's when we know we've got the sound right,
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  Like you know, you need to feel in your chest like yeah,
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  brother, I'll drink of that any day. Letting you go Heavy. We
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  started up three news Spotify playlists through Heavy and rasking all the bands and we
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  interviewed to give us one of their own songs for each playlist. So the
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  first one is obvious like the playlists, a song of yours to get you
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  up ready to party. The second song is one that could save your marriage
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  when you get home from partying, and the third one is the song that
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  could potentially end your marriage at any time. All right, okay, so
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  the first one lucky in party that would have to be ten thousand headless horses,
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  which is the first record. Yes, the one that might get you
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  I'm into trouble, probably a long time coming, get into trouble, and
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  then the one that would save your marriage. Oh it really depends on Actually
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  we have to switch us around. I think they have to put probably never
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  coming back as the one to get injured trouble, and then the one that
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  save your marriage, I guess, but still breathing. Oh well, I
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  gotta personally check on them out myself and see if you're right or not.
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  I mean, I couldn't be wrong and never that was a very that was
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  definitely a question. I wasn't prepared for good. We aimed to please beautiful
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  way do. I will thank you very much of your time you're speaking with
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  you. You're on new ep as within so without has been pushed back your
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  September twenty second. But he's going to be worth await from what I've heard
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  brace So best to luck with that and best to luck with Avatar, because
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  thanks very much. I can't wait