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Episode 34: WWE CEO Nick Kahn Comments, Forbes Combat Sports List, AEW Dynasty Predictions, and more! · WCHS Network Podcasts

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Are you ready? All right? I said, oh yeah, Jeff stealing
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boot Wheeler deal, the cleaver of the'clock. I got one hundred and forty
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one and two thirsty tents of winning. But brother, I am bad,
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and they know I'm bad. I'm the Pabby Hour, the never the power
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to sneak this out in show time. Coach. Welcome to the grill Out
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from the Heart up Shilli in West Virginia. Here's your host, Hollywood,
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Jeff Petty. Welcome, ladies, gentlemen, back to the grill Outs.
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I'm your host, Hollywood, Jeff Petty, and I'm joined with my wonderful
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two dose duo of co host Josh Cole. Babe. TA Team Championships are
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back. They are back. They are and the current reigning and defending Grill
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Out Predictions Heavyweight Champion. Let me stop you there, Jeff. The reflection
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of perfection Jason like, no, if you're going to do it right,
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greatest, if you're gonna do it right, yeah, either do it right
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or you don't do it at all. Where you let someone who knows how
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to do it take the mic and spout out the truth. I am the
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reflection of perfection, the Beta Killer and the Midnight Thriller. Everybody knows that
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when you're good, you're good, but when you're great, you're me.
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I am the grill out c h a MP greatness known as jasonly likens.
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I love it. I love it, honestly, when you do that,
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it does give me a superstar Billy Graham vibes. Yeah, the man of
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the hour, the man, the man of the hour, too sweet to
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be salad. That's it. Of the man with the power tooth, sweet
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to beat that, the women's pet and the men's regret, the man that
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makes the men quiver and the ladies shiver. Who may oh listen? I
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love I love Superstar Billy Graham's promo so much. He is in the opening
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of the show. I love it. When you two don't talk. I
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feel like the title's going to his head a little bit. But AnyWho,
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just to dive into it. We'll talk. We'll talk here off the air.
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What do you mean, No, No, I'm the champ. We'll
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talk now. Yeah, you know, the title is just just going a
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little bit to your head. That's not my fault. You don't win it.
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I've wanted once once, but I still want it. That means you've
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lost it once. I've never lost it yet. I haven't lost it.
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That belt is mine and the champ remember that. Put some respect in your
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voice when you're talking into the champ. Yeah. Uh ww. CEO Nick
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con has some interesting comments this past week. This is coming from a couple
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of different sources. This was on the On the Town podcast. He did
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address the allegations against vincement Mann. We talked about allegations. Yes, what
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allegations? Hold on? And oh god, why would he do that?
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You know, we don't know. It's half allegations. Okay, let's say
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he didn't. Who thinks of that? I don't know. Why would they
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do that? I don't. I don't know. Have billions of dollars?
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You just throw it around? Yep. Well, I mean at least John
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Lauren Iis hasn't done anything right. We're going to have to talk after this.
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At the break, he does address the invest McMahon allegations publicly for the
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first time, quote saying, obviously her horrific and serious. And we take
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them, uh, we take them and interrupt interpret them the same way any
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other reasonable person or organization organization would interpret them. You saw the quick resignation
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end quote. He He also mentioned about WrestleMania being staged. A little later
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in April, a report came from Fightful saying that that is that possibly it
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could be moved to May. Yeahs Maia, yeah yeah. Better get justin
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Timberlake for that one, because that's gone to May May. It's gonna be
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May you too so much. He did speak about the deal with Peacock.
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It is up in March of twenty twenty six, a month before WrestleMania,
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and uh, you know he said that they quote like the timing of that.
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This is also another part from the Sports Business Journal. It's con talk
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when he's he said, quote, we sat down together a few years ago
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and decided so the Big five premium live events he's talking about WrestleMania, Royal
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Rumble, Survivor Series, SummerSlam, and Money in the Bank should be in
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the United States or Canada. All of the other events. The goal is
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to have them from international locations. Hence is why backlash He's going to be
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in France. I disagree they all shouldn't, like the Big Five shouldn't be
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in the US. I mean, why would it matter? True? True?
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Cody Cody talked this past week about he kind of echoed what John Cena
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was talking about with the UK getting a WrestleMania. Yeah. Look at how
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hot the crowd is whenever they're there. Oh yeah, there's few things.
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There's a few things as loud as a UK crowd and they you know,
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and it's not just with professional wrestling, just you know, soccer aka football
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is really big over there and they're like you just the chance and everything like
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it's it's great. And I think I think they absolutely should have something there
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for them. They have a couple of times now, yeah, but I
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think they basically money in the bank was there last year? Was it London?
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Oh yes it was. It was. Well that's one of the Big
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five. Yeah, and it was outside of the US, outside of North
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America. Yeah, so I kind of agree with his assessment that the Big
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five should be in the US. Okay, it's an American company, bring
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him to America and plus it as you know, us being Americans watching this
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product. When they put those pay per views across the season the earlier times,
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they don't feel as big to me. So let me ask you this,
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Josh, the first w in ww E, what does that stand for
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that's why they had the other ones overseas. But what does it stand for
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the world? World? Yeah, so I think the broadcast the entire world
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get to experience it. That's why we bring the world to America. He
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is Jason is is shaking his head like whenever, like, for example,
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Elimination Chamber, it felt like you didn't really need to watch it because it
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was during the day as opposed to nighttime here. True, it didn't feel
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as important to watch. I understand that, But I kind of am in
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agreement with Jason that yes, we should have it, and we should have
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have him in different locations. I mean I agree with other papers. Ye
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maybe not the Big Five, maybe Money Bank or Service series. But well,
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you say Money in the Bank is on the same is in Survivor series
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is on the same level. I mean they kind of area gets something out.
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I don't think has Survivor series ever been in a stadium because they actually
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announced Money in the Bank for a stadium and they went back on it.
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Good good point. I don't know if Survivor series has ever been in a
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in a stadium of any sort. See, I don't think every series is
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as good as it used to be no no new Back in the nineties,
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I think Survivor Series was a lot better. But Josh, are you predominantly
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saying that WrestleMania should not take place out of North America in a sense?
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Yeah, okay, what about in Puerto Rico? Like, I know that's
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not I know that's not That's still in North America, But like, do
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they even have a stadium there though they got baseball stadiums like there, or
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maybe maybe Mexico, Mexico City. It's North America. I mean, hey,
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let's have Mexico in that. Yeah, I was going to ask that.
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And apparently the reason why they are wanting to move it till later in
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the year, like late April early May, is because they don't want to
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go head head to head with the final four of the n CUAA Tournament,
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which before that was never a problem, but now all of a sudden it's
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sort of become a problem for him and May. And it's because of this
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new regime, you know, with with Nick con being the CEO and everything
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and wanting to make little changes here and there. I I don't know.
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I don't know right off the top of my head, I do I do
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think that they should. They should spread out, maybe not do all of
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the Big five, like maybe once, you know, do one of them
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a year outside of outside of North America or maybe even South America. Take
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it down to a Rio de Janeiro down in Brazil, you know, if
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if it is a time zone issue, like maybe, yeah, maybe put
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it in South America somewhere. I was kind of wondering, have they ever
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done a pay per view in South America? I don't think so. And
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with them being you know, sort of partners, like being under the same
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umbrella as the UFC the US, he has done plenty of events in Brazil,
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so that could be a possibility. I mean, like I said,
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if if if it is, if it is a time zone issue, well
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I think you would also have to look at if they have a market down
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there that, you know, a hud enough market that would want w w
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E. I mean, true, true, true, They definitely there's definitely
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a hot mm A market down there, but I don't want to I don't
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know about pro wrestling like yeah, I mean in the UK there is a
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they are hot for pro wrestling, oh absolutely, And we're about to find
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out about how hot Germany is for pro wrestling when they when they go there
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in August, I believe in August. Actually, you know what, just
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screw it. Do go to Tokyodum, get twenty five stars for every match.
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I'd like to see how how Meltzer would rate it. It's not new
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japan storytelling. That's that's true. Meltzer's I just don't think Meltzer likes w
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W. He doesn't. I think I really think he has such a he
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has a big problem with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has.
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In the past few years he's been a little more reluctant with hand in
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handing five stars. There's got two or three of them said something yeah,
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him and Ilio dragonov Ye he's he's fans of them. But I think if
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you're looking into Japanese wrestling, Meltzer is a good person to start with,
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like if you want to just see, you know what a very good Japanese
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wrestling match is. But overall, in the world of professional wrestling, there
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is no reason why WrestleMania twenty five, the Undertaker versus Sean Michael should be
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any lesson a five star match. Would do you ever listen to Dave Meltzer's
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talking like his shows that he has a couple of times. Have you heard
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the one last week? Okay, he was at the Tokyo Dough and there
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was like a rare fight that broke that broke out like in line. He
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gave it five stars just because it was too Yeah, you know, but
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I just I feel like that is a lot of interesting things that came out
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of Nick CON's mouth this this past week. And they're really showing the past
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couple of weeks since wrestlmingia WW has really shown how you know, this this
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new era showing that there is a change in the air over there, and
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I think there's I think there's gonna be a lot of positive things. You
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know. I'm very I don't know how I feel about WrestleMania being in May.
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Yeah, and apparently they are going to maybe start, you know,
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stay away from the Northeast because with them being in Philadelphia this past this year
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and the weather that they had to deal with there. Well, I think
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if it's a retractable roof, then it won't be a big issue like Minnesota.
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I was gonna bring up Minnesota, but you know, where one new
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air begins, one air might be coming to an end. That's true,
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Brian Danielson, that's true. That's true. So that leads to our next
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story. I'm glad for the segue, Jason. See Josh, that's how
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you do a segue. That's how you did chance. They did a they
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announced this past week a e W did about where Wressell Dream will take place.
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We did give you the list of aw's remaining pay per views for the
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rest of the year. They announced that it will be in Tacoma, Washington
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at the Tacoma Dome Saturday, October twelfth. And rumor has it, we
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don't. I can't. We can't confirm this. I can't confirm this.
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None of us here can. Their rumor is this is where Brian Danielson's last
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quote unquote full time match is going to be. What it will look like
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after he goes full time is up in the air. But that's that that
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that is what the rumor is at the moment. It lines up roughly with
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his statement of how long he wants to still be full time. Yeah,
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and and he's he's really starting to starting to line down. Also, I
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found out an interesting thing with the Blackpool Combat Club this past week. They
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have a book club. Really, yes, that all like the Mocksley,
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Claudio and Danielson and you yeah, they they got a book club. Do
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you think Moxley just goes in and paper cuts himself? Maybe? Maybe.
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And speaking of Moxley, he is the new I W GV World Heavyweight Champion,
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So I forgot to mention that. Last week he did he beat Tetsu
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and Ito at Wendy City Riots. So yeah, that's that he is.
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He is a new champion there. Also, according to certain people, Jack
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Perry, his last day with New Japan was at Wendy c City Riot and
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he is supposed to go back to a e W eminently. Okay, well,
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might see him a dynasty may maybe he might pop up at that.
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I mean, if he pops up, someone might have to say row.
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Yeah, that's that's that's true. You know, there could be a possibility
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he could get involved with the ladder match. Yeah, I did say there's
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gonna be some kind of big surprise. That's that's true. That's true.
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We'll get to that later in the next segment when we start doing our predictions.
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But yes, so it does look like Wressell Dream will be in Tacoma,
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Washington this year on Saturday, October twelfth. Moving on Freddy Prince Junior.
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See that was the rout Row set up? No Scooby Doo Prince.
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Oh, yeah, my bad? Yeah, yeah it is. That was
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gold. I give you gold and you don't take it. Yeah, let's
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try that again. I mean someone might have to say ret Row. Speaking
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of rut Row, Freddy Prince Junior speaks on how good was that? That
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was perfect? It's beautiful. He tees him up and sometimes I don't hit
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him. If you do know who Freddy Prince Junior is, you must like
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to do. He was on the lab action movies for Scooby Doo back in
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the early Was he played Fred? Yeah, and honestly he played Scoob.
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Yes, he played Fred, of course, I know. I'm just explain,
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Josh, did you know that I did know this? Okay? Good?
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Okay? He might have voiced Scooby you know, I mean, was
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he didn't? He's well he and he's also a former WWE writer. Yeah
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that's true. He so he and he's a big wrestling fan. Yeah,
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I'm like, Josh. Yeah, for those of you. And also speaking
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of the live action of Scooby Doo movies, they were great. When I
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was a kid never went back and watched them, but I just remember I
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have fond memories of them. I mean I watched them not too long ago.
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How were they? It wasn't bad? Okay, they still hold up
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after what twenty years? It wasn't bad. Okay, I left. Okay,
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so good good, I'm glad you left. It's like the first two.
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I think that's about it. I had. Were there only two?
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I think they were. There might have been more. I don't know.
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I know there's I mean, there's been a bunch of Scooby Doo movies,
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but I think there's only been two live actions. I mean, at least
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with that cast. Yeah, that's true. That's true that that was a
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good cast. AnyWho. So yeah, he's a big wrestling fan. He's
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former writer for w TOW. He did a talk in twenty twenty two about
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starting his own promotion. Now. At the time, he had high expectations.
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He played, don't have a two hour show planned and launched within eighteen
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months two years ago. Now two years later, fans are yet to see
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a single second of his promotion, but Prince hasn't given up hope yet.
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On his Wrestling with Freddie podcast, Prince shared. Prince shared how the new
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company will be presented. The look of it will be much different than AW
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and WWE. There was a show called Luca Underground which utilized space really really
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well, which had a cool look to it. I always like that.
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It's going to be the presentation of it that I hope makes it stand out.
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So maybe getting another Lucha Underground, except the head booker is going to
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be Fred from Scooby Doo. Yep, yep. That's so he handed out
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Scooby Snack's payment. Maybe could be, you know, maybe that's what you
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get at the gauzashus stand. Maybe you want a hot dog Scooby snag.
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Yeah, maybe I don't know. You you want a pretzel Scooby Snack?
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Maybe yeah, you want not just Scooby snack. Maybe you want a bear
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Scooby snack. Maybe that very well might be it, maybe could be.
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But yeah, he apparently he did approach Bray Wyatt at one point to join
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his promotion, but then Wyatt returned to WW in October of twenty twenty two.
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Yeah, so he does have plans, but this is as far as
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it's went, So, you know, he seems like he's got an idea
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of what the show's supposed to look like. But other than that, we
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don't know. We don't have an exact date, you know, and I
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don't know, I don't know, but just yeah, moving on from that,
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Forbes, Yeah, I don't have a segway for you there, Yeah,
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sor ry. Forbes released their top ten most valuable combat sports promotions for
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twenty twenty four. The top ten. I'm not gonna go through the entire
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top ten, mainly gonna focus on the top three, which the first one
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is the UFC. That's not a shocker. They're valued at eleven shocked me
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with how much they charge for a pay per view. I am not shocked
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by that. They're every week, Yeah, well what not every week,
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it's like every month, and it's like seventy to eighty dollars a pay per
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view. Yeah I'm good. Yeah, no, that's now. But they're
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valued at eleven point three billion dollars of posting one point twenty nine billion dollars
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in revenue a year. WW is valued at six point eight billion dollars posting
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one point three three billion in revenue. Here slight, yes, slight,
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no more, But I did crunch some numbers, and the numbers get kind
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of interesting. The numbers don't lie and they spell disaster for you. At
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sacrifice Smow Joe smowed Joe AEW is valued at two billion dollars, posting a
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two hundred and fifty million dollars in revenue a year. Now, the numbers
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that I did crunch for this, I wanted to see how much what is
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the number of the revenue played into the value? Okay, so aw's revenue
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to value. Their revenue is about eight percent of what their value is.
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Ww's about five point to five point twelve percent. The UFC is eight point
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seven five percent of their valuation. And again I'm well not not again,
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but I am a communications major from college. I'm not very good with numbers.
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But that's what I was able to come up with. And this you
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know, of course we have the revenue numbers and all that, but that's
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what the values are. After AW have one championship, which is an MMA
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promotion, They're valued at one point three billion dollars, posting one hundred and
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forty million dollars a year in revenue. So does one championship? Only have
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one championship? No? No, not nice one? But no, no,
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it's it's basically like this UFC. I think they're based out of Singapore.
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I'm not exactly sure on that one. And then around that the top
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five is match Room Boxing valued at eight hundred and fifty million dollars posting one
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hundred and thirty four million dollars a year in revenue. So yes, but
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that, you know, that is what Forbes has for combat sports. That's
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money ranking, you know, for the evaluation. And real quick, we're
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going to wrap this up. I'm gonna ask Josh real quick, because ww
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did release their new tag dollars. Yep, they they got rid of the
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SmackDown Roll tag titles. Okay, I want to mention this. I did
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not hate those designs really no. I like the Spartan helmets really yeah.
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I didn't care for the copper color, but the original like, okay,
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but what you were saying, I was gonna say, what what do you
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think about the new ones? I like both of them. The roundness on
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the New World tags are weird. I don't know, there's something about that
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roundness. It's just odd. But I like to on on them. And
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then the throwback on the w B tag titles to the like Ruth Disaggression Attitude
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era Taitles is pretty nice. I was gonna say it is actually like the
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center plate is like the Hell the Old World. It's very similar. But
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they now have griffins on them, which is pretty cool. Oh okay,
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yeah, I do wish I would bring back the lineage of the World Tag
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titles. Yeah, it's weird. The naming is weird because the current World
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Tag title was the Raw but before that it was WWE Tag. Instead of
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reverting to that name, they just made it World Tag and made the SmackDown
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tag the ww tag. A bunch of weird naming compusion there. Yeah,
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that's yeah, that is kind of because they don't like you. But what
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the lineage though, I mean, the old World Tag was unified into what
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is now the World Tag, so I mean there's that kind of connection there.
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Yeah. I still think they should have never gotten rid of They should
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not have. That's that's one mistake that like New Japan did when they got
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rid of the w GB Heavyweight title, they should not have gotten rid of
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the rid of that, you know, one title. They need to get
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rid of the Universal it's still active. That's that's weird. It should have
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ended when Roman lost the title. That's true, That's true. I don't
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know, maybe they got a plan for it. They have started to call
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it Cody the Undisputed w TOB Champion, but on their website both titles are
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still active. Go on, come on, con step up with your game.
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Interesting fact about the new tag titles, you know WWE's they would do
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those side plates now all of them have only three places centerplate, two side
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plates. This new tag title has five plates. They have the mis center
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plate, the two's customizable side plays, and then there's an outer side plates.
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What's up with the two cons really liking titles? I know? And
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also what is with the two cons being in charge of wrestling? Like it's
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just you know, who wouldn't like that? Captain Kirk, Come on,
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we're going to end it there. Speaking of one of the cons, Tony
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Khan, his promotion AW has Dynasty which will be to night and we have
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predictions next so stay tuned. It's time for more of the grill Out.
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Here's Hollywood Jeff Petty. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the Grill Outs.
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I'm your host, Hollywood, Jeff Petty. Yeah, yeah, I
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am joined with me is Josh Cole Babe Bybee. Also the current raining and
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defending grill Outs predictions if you win Champion Jason, the reflection of perfection likings.
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If you're great, you're him. That's right. When you're good,
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you're good. But when you're great, you're me. I'm gonna say,
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if you're great, you're a chicken sandwich. Chicken sandwiches are pretty good hamaches
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today. What I had a chick Fila sandwiches. I don't know what was
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said. Never mind, you're calling me a chicken sandwich, a delicious chicken
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sandwich. Yes, do you want to eat me? No? I'm very
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confused by this trade now because I am myself. Why are you calling me
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a chicken sandwich? I don't know because I was, I'm kind of hungry
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right now. I'm not. I mean, I ate before I started recording.
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I'm not a chicken sandwich. Cle you know who I was about to
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eat? Wrestling fans tonight. That's true tonight, aw dNaM, I don't
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even understand what you're saying. He calls me a chicken sandwhich you're saying that
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fans are going to eat tonight. Yeah, people are gonna eat unless they
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don't, then they won't. Why why would people not be eating? Why
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am I a chicken sandwich? Scooby? What is going on? They like
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to say they're eating when they're getting all the good content. Well that's stupid.
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Yeah, you're not eating content, you're listening, you're absorbing, you're
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gaining content, you're consuming it. Yeah, this generation's dumb. Back in
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my day, Scooby snacks. Back in my day, we didn't have the
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internet dirt sheets. We had to buy a magazine or called mean Jean's hotline.
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That's what I did. Did you call Jean's hotline? Yeah? Once?
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Oh it was an automated please me was automated? Yeah, okay,
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of course, but it was also we called once to put in our vote
26:45
for who should face Vader for the title, and my brother and I kept
26:49
saying Sting and we kept trying to get our dad to say Sting, and
26:52
he said Rick Flair and they told him that that was not an option,
26:57
so then he said Sting, So but he really wanted to be Rick Flair.
27:03
Yeah, chris what was that? What? When has Rick Flair ever
27:07
said Crispy What? Whoa Chrispy Woo Regional wrestling Ric Flair, Yeah, we
27:18
got we got some we got some things to show you at the break.
27:21
When was this like like six or seven years ago, Southball Regional Wrestling Chasma.
27:27
Yeah, but I'm guessing that would have had to have been the second
27:30
season of it, right, that's first with Rick both Rick Flair was the
27:37
first one. First one was the PFC done. Anyway, we got predictions
27:41
there, all right, AW Dynasty is tonight. Of course we have predictions
27:47
because we Dynasty or Dynasty. Yeah. The guy I was gonna say,
27:51
the guys from from Wrestle Talking calling it nasty, just shut up with the
27:55
show. I am called me a chicken sandwich. You know you're trying to
28:00
figure out how to pronounce a word. Just get on with the show.
28:04
Over modulation, sorry, starting off with the pre show for what show?
28:10
The pre show for ae W Dynasty is Dynasty, Dynasty. It is Dynasty.
28:15
The UK fans call dynasty, Josh, what do you think it is?
28:18
Dynasty or dynasty? What is it? No one cares your opinion.
28:22
I'll tell you I'm gonna call it a w That's it. I have spoken.
28:27
So this is a title for title match to AW Trio's champs claim that
28:33
last Yeah, taking on the Ring of Honor six man champions Bullet Club Gold.
28:40
So Josh claimed the one loves the Acclaimed in Billigan. That's true.
28:45
That is true. All right, Okay, kind of messed up there,
28:49
Jason. Oh well, you see, I don't have a problem here,
28:55
Okay, because I can see Bullet Club Gold win. True, but it
29:00
is not going to be the Ring of Honor titles. That's the one that
29:04
they're going to do away with. Because when are they on Ring of Honor
29:08
now? Yeah, true, they're not true. They're on the rampage a
29:12
lot. Yeah, but that's an AW show. Yeah, that's true.
29:18
So because I mean, between the two teams, I think Bullet Club Gold
29:22
needs it more than the Acclaimed and Billy Gunn. But because I think it's
29:26
going to stay as the AW Trios title, I'm gonna stay Acclaimed, I
29:32
claimed, Okay, And honestly, I'm going to be in agreement with with
29:36
you both. I think you know, I do thank the Bullet Cup Gold.
29:40
It does need to win more. Also, I like j White and
29:44
at when AW was in Charleston, the little finger gun pointing thing, one
29:48
of the I think it was a Colton Gun did that to my brother because
29:52
we were at ring said and he voice, yeah bang bang, but yeah,
29:56
give you a finger Yeah, not that Figer, but finger gun.
30:00
All right, Trent Barretta, take it on Matt's side, l Josh,
30:06
Trent, I don't really have a good answer on this one. It's gotta
30:10
be Trent okay, Jason, Trent, Trent okay, And I'm gonna go
30:17
Trent as well because it was like one of those random matches to put on
30:19
here. Yeah, it's just a further the Trent Barretta and best friends things.
30:26
That's that's. That's all it is, all right, Orange, Cassidy
30:29
and Cassy Shabbata boom, take it on. I heard it. Take it
30:37
on, Shane Taylor and Lee Moriarty. Josh, uh, there's another one.
30:41
I have no idea. I am going to go with Cassidy and Shibata
30:47
okay, Casbata. Yeah, I gotta go with Freshly Squeezed. They're not
30:53
evil, are they? No? No? I mean like the team from
30:56
Japan? No? Okay? No? Uh? Another faces that the Heels
31:02
are Shane Taylor. No, no, the the Stable oh no no.
31:08
So I wasn't sure it was an evil or not. No, all right,
31:11
and then I'll go cast japan expert here. But that's what I thought
31:18
you were asking, like face or he'll no, cas he's kind of a
31:22
twainer actually, kind of in between. They do that often in Japan.
31:26
So anyway, that's the pre show for aw Dynasty. We pretty much did
31:30
not defer at all on that. Yeah. No, so it's show.
31:34
Yeah, it's just a pre show. So I am just gonna go ahead
31:37
and go to the bottom of this. We're gonna start with the FTW Championship.
31:41
Hook your current champion of the FTW title. Take it on, Chris
31:45
Jericho, Josh Hook Hook. That was this lion heart Chris Jericho. Yeah,
31:51
okay, well that changes everything. Yeah it's Hook, It's Hook.
31:55
Yeah. I want it to just be a complete squash with Hook. Oh
32:00
he just he just goes in there, just destroys ergo again. Hook might
32:04
be leaving a w there. I mean, has been talks of that would
32:08
Taz get rid of the We're just there was that one. I forgot what
32:14
it was. There was something about Hook possibly going the innex he ter some
32:17
kind of comment like a year ago, and Taz liked it on like x
32:21
or whatever. Yeah, there is a possibility. I'm gonna go with hook
32:25
though. Okay. Moving up for the A e W Continental Championship cats Kaza
32:36
Okada almost a kinsera shabaaz Ocada, your current champion, taking on Park Josh.
32:40
I would like to see pak win, but I believe this is Ocata's
32:45
first like real defense at the title. I feel like Okaa is going to
32:49
have a long grain some going Tokada. But isn't it also Park's return true?
32:54
True? I think it's returned singles match. He's had a couple of
32:58
like tag matches. Well, I'm going Okada. I'm gonna go Ocata.
33:05
Okay. See, I don't want to keep picking the same thing, y'all.
33:10
Well you all have to remember, Okay, a title cannot change hands
33:15
if it's a tie. Yeah, that's true. So I have the champion's
33:21
advantage. You got got a point there, you got a point there.
33:24
I know I do Okay, you know, if it should be said,
33:29
this is continental rules, so no outside interference is allowed and no one at
33:32
ringside. That's true, that's true. I At the same time, I
33:36
don't know if Ocada really needs it. It is Okada. I'm gonna go
33:39
okada, okay, all right? For the a W tag titles in a
33:47
ladder match, the Young Bucks tagging on FTR. Josh listen, I want
33:57
to say Young Bucks. They they lost their match again, stinging Darby true
34:02
true true. I feel like this is going to be their reign of terror.
34:07
Mm okay, you're gonna go Bucks? Yeah, Jason, I'm also
34:12
going Bucks, going Bucks. I want to go Bucks. See. I
34:21
want FTR to win. I feel like in order to correct what they did
34:27
with the with airing that footage, they have to put the belt on FDR.
34:31
That's just too kind of move in the right direction. What's the record
34:37
right now? This is the fourth match? I don't I don't know right
34:40
off the top of my because FDR beat them at Wymbley. Yeah, that's
34:44
true, fat. What I think is, uh, Jack Perry comes back,
34:50
helps the Bucks win, and then you have the story of FTR trying
34:53
to defeat the evil EVPs. That's right, which I will say. Side
34:59
note, I do enjoy the EVP characters like I like them leaning into that
35:06
and stuff. I just was not a fan of except every time I see
35:09
them, I just think about Southern Justice true and that and somebody pointed out
35:15
the other day, They're like Okata has genies. Yeah, like they may
35:20
look like a couple of genies, but you know, maybe that's maybe that's
35:23
part of it. I guess ione have to go bucks as well, because
35:28
I I've, like I said, I think they need FTR has to have
35:31
the belts given to them in order to right that wrong. But at the
35:36
same time, I don't think they're gonna learn from that. I just I
35:39
don't just don't see that. All right, aw International Champion Chip Roderick Strong,
35:46
You're Kurt Champion taking on col O'Reilly Josh, So I think Strong is
35:52
gonna win. But I'm gonna be different in say O'Reilly. You're gonna say
35:55
o'reiley. Yeah, okay, oh oh, Otto Ports Jason Strong Strong,
36:07
good old rowdy Strong has has Roger Strong defended the title at all? Maybe
36:17
wait, I think he just defended it. Maybe Battle of the Belts.
36:22
No, that was the title. They broke the rule and battled the belts.
36:29
I don't my head hurts a little bit. You know what I'm gonna
36:34
go. I'm actually I feel like he just defended like on dynamite. Don't
36:38
then check that. I'm gonna go a rally no strong final final answer right.
36:49
Next match, Adam Copeland, Eddie Kingston, and Mark Briscoe taking on
36:53
the House of Black in a trios match. Josh mmmm, I am going
37:01
to go a House of Black, House Black. Yeah, Jason, hmm.
37:08
You see here's the problem. Okay, House of Black should win.
37:13
Yes they are the team. Yes they should have better chemistry. Yes they
37:16
are the team. They are the team. It won't be them, It's
37:22
going to be Copeland, Kingston and brisco Copeland and Friends, but it should
37:28
be House of Black. I'm not disagreeing with you. I think they definitely
37:35
needed to win way more. But the way that House of Black has been
37:39
treated, I don't say it. Also, I think this is another one
37:44
that would benefit if House of Black squashed Copeland and Friends. Just to note,
37:51
he has not definited the International Championship. He has not, Okay,
37:53
okay, just title eliminators. Okay, which is a it's funny that they
38:00
have title eliminators, but people dogged on w TOW for having that same concept.
38:05
Yeah, I don't. That doesn't doesn't make any sense to me.
38:07
All right, Oh I'm going yeah, I'm gonna have to go Cope and
38:12
and friends. I hate to, Okay, I just don't because I feel
38:19
like this next match it's going to play somewhat in the it. Julia Hart
38:25
take it on Willow Nightingale. Julia is your current TBS champion and this is
38:30
for the TVs Championship. Josh, I'm going Willow on Nightingale because I believe
38:35
it's going to be a rematch between her and uh Mercedes mine because Mercedes Many
38:39
is challenging whoever's the TVs champion double or nothing. So Phil, it's gonna
38:43
be a rematch for the title and we'll actually see who should have won that
38:45
original Women's Strong Championship match. Fair fair, Jason, I agree, it's
38:51
going to be Willow Willow, although I still want to see a stat Lander
38:55
Hill turn. I do too. I do too. Also, if you
39:00
want to listen to a stat to our interview of Chris dat Landery, it
39:02
was a few episodes ago. I'm gonna go Heart. Actually, yep,
39:07
I'm gonna defer from that one. I want to see the Willow Monette rematch,
39:13
but I've been enjoying Julia Hart's I would like to see her with him,
39:17
but I feel like that's what they're gonna do. Yeah, I just
39:22
I have enjoyed her reign as Tbskay, let me ask you this, Jeff
39:28
Okay, is the money in Julia Hart versus Mercedes Monet? No? Is
39:37
the money in Willow versus Monette? Somewhat? I mean that's that's the match
39:45
that was supposed to be. That's true, that's true. Listen. I
39:50
mean I can't talk you out of it. It's already written ye stone.
39:53
Yeah, we've already chilled it in the stone. It's it's there. Yeah,
39:57
we can't. We can't do anything. I'm just saying you probably wrong.
40:04
Yeah, we will see. The last time I started throwing random picks
40:07
at the at the wall, it almost walked away with the championship. When
40:12
was that wrestle Manie who who won that? By one point? You?
40:15
Yeah? By one point? That's all it takes, is that one second?
40:19
That one point? Yeah, one point, and you had done and
40:24
my hand was being raised as the victor. Nobody raised my hand. You
40:29
both should raise my hand right now, No, reach, reach, both
40:37
of you. Reach. Yeah, that wasn't so hard. If only we
40:43
had cameras in here. With that, you don't need cameras. No,
40:49
just use your imagination. What they both did was one grabbed each wrist and
40:52
they lifted it high. And then the audience here all cheered and apparently there's
41:04
a thunderstorm in here. Now we got a we got a tornader on the
41:07
way. It's a tornader. Thanks all these roundabouts around the roundabout Tornaders.
41:15
My god, I didn't have a tornador till the roundabouts came to town.
41:20
Speaking of thunderstand there Rose is challenging for the women's championship. Yes, but
41:22
what's not the next match? I was gonna come back to it. It
41:27
doesn't matter. Your segues don't work. Will osbry taking on Brian Danielson.
41:34
Josh, that's wrong. Yeah, it's a tough have they faced each other?
41:42
Is this the first time? I think this might be the first time
41:46
Brian dancer Danielsen? Yeah, Jason, Well let's look at a few things.
41:55
Okay, this may be Danielson's last full time match. Yes, okay,
42:02
So what better way to write them off than will ospray Endinga's career in
42:10
Tacoma, Washington. In Tacoma, Washington. That's why I'm thinking it's gonna
42:15
be William j Osprey. I have no idea if it's William Jay or what
42:24
it is, We don't. It might just be well, so your your
42:27
biggest Osprey. That's what I just said. Yeah, okay, I'm just
42:30
open your ears and shut your mouth when the champ talks. Yeah, it's
42:35
in there, all right, all right? What a friend? No?
42:38
Here, how about this. I'll make it a fifty to fifty for you,
42:44
Danielson er Osprey. There, it's a fifty to fifty. Now you
42:49
know you can't do that? What is there? Don Kellishenanigins, No gotta
42:54
hate you? No, it's my pick. Now, what's your picked?
43:01
Just say your pick? Then I picked. You'll keep talking and you're not
43:06
saying anything. Who do you pick? Ospray or Daniels? Danielson? You
43:09
picked on Yeah, I am the only one that picked correctly. We will
43:15
find out tonight. Yeah. Aw Women's World title. Tony Storm, you're
43:21
current champion taking on thunder Rose Josh Tony Storm. That was the original match
43:25
back in twenty two. It never happened, okay, back in nineteen twenty
43:30
two. Yes, Well, listen, Tony and I have one big thing
43:35
in common. You know what that is Tony Storm. There's a lot of
43:39
Tony's in this company. I just realized that her and I we're both timeless
43:45
Tony Storm, Tony Storm, all right, and we're both the champ.
43:51
I'm gonna go with Tony as well. It's you know, I don't say
43:57
thunder Rose on it. No, No, not anymore, Nope, Nope,
44:01
Main Event time, aw World Title, It's time for the nine event.
44:07
Samoa Joe, he's fat, Champion, Somemoa Joe, He's fat taking
44:14
on Swerve Strickland. Okay, really quick, if you don't know, I
44:17
am not calling Samoa Joe fat. It was a Scott Steiner reference from Beck
44:23
in TNA. Yeah, probably one of the greatest things to come out of
44:27
TNA. He's fat, Josh, I feel like Joe could win this,
44:36
but I'm gonna go with you with what you've been saying for a while.
44:38
Swerve Strickland, all right, I feel like he has the most momentum here.
44:44
Jason Jason. Okay. So here's the thing with Samojo and Swerve Strickland.
44:50
You have a fifty to fifty chance, you have a fifty percent chance
44:52
that it could go either way. Okay, but then you throw in the
44:55
fact that Swerve Strickland is on this big high right now, and that drastic
45:00
drops down Smoe Joe's chances to about a thirty three and a third percent chance.
45:07
So you take the fifty percent chance that Joe could win, but then
45:15
you take that down by Swerve Strickland knocking Joe's down to thirty three and a
45:21
third percent chance. That only leaves Smoe Joe a twelve point five eight to
45:25
two repeating percent chance. And the numbers don't lie, and they smell disaster
45:34
for Somemoe Joe at Dynasty Swerve Strickland strict. Please don't do that math,
45:38
It's wrong. It a dance. I guess that was a long walk to
45:45
just say, Swerve Strickland. Would you both please stop dancing? I will
45:50
not please please stop dancing because for the love of God, stop dancing.
45:55
It's gonna be served top ten in the world. He will be your new
46:05
AW World champion. Bonus point. Did Jack Perry come tell you he's not
46:09
coming anymore? Your mahan? But that's another story. Yeah yeah, we
46:15
ww releases. Oh yeah, yeah, you might be coming to AW that's
46:21
true. I'll tell you who won't be there see him punk Nope, Yeah,
46:25
you never know. They might show some more footage. They might You
46:29
never never know. All right, that is our predictions for ae W Dynasty.
46:36
Point well, you've already put it out there for the listeners. Josh,
46:39
thanks for talking to us before. Thanks for going into business for yourself.
46:45
Man, I gotta get that title back. That's not gonna happen.
46:50
All right, you're not beating me, all right, ladies and gentlemen.
46:53
That is our predictions for ae W Dynasty. Are we not going to do?
46:58
Okay? Well, I mean he out Okay, okay, we're just
47:01
running short on time. All right? Who is who is the young bucks
47:06
big surprise? Jack Perry? Jack Perry? We're almost say Jack Parry?
47:08
Yeah, okay, so it doesn't matter there. Are you happy, Josh?
47:13
Are you happy? Is that what makes you happy? Will you be
47:15
able to sleep tonight knowing that we all agree it's Jack Perry? Yes?
47:22
Up next, ladies, gentlemen, on this day in wrestling history and the
47:27
main event, Josh isn't the sharpest spoon in the drawer, Stay tuned.
47:30
He's actually a sport. Once again, here's Hollywood, Jeff Petty, Welcome
47:47
back, ladies and gentlemen to the Grill Out final segment. I'm your host,
47:52
Hollywood, Jeff Betty. I'm joined here with Josh Cole Babe and our
47:57
current reigning and defending Girl Out Predictions heavyweight champion asking his own glory, the
48:04
reflection of perfection, the two hundred and eighty pounds of twisted steel and sex
48:09
appeal. Jayson Lie cans yeah, and the crowd goes wild. Thank you,
48:24
one fine cheering in the corner. Oh no, that's a fire extinguisher.
48:29
Sorry, I don't say. We are not live in front of a
48:31
studio audience. We're live, man, We're live. We're live pound We're
48:37
also on this day in wrestling history. April twenty first, nineteen eighty at
48:54
the WWFT Madison Square Garden Show in New York, Ken Petera defeated Patterson to
49:00
become the second ever HAVE Intercontinental Champion. That was after pat Patterson won it
49:06
in a tournament in Rio dejion Aio really RIODIESONAIRA for some reason. That's why
49:12
they should have WrestleMania there. You know what, Yes, they should exactly.
49:15
I'm glad it took us to the end of the show to agree with
49:19
that. Okay, they can actually make this fictional place that they say real,
49:25
Rio Dshenio is a real place, yes, Josh, it's real.
49:29
Tournaments that they should google. You could google that and you'll be better off
49:34
than the person who thinks roundabouts calls Tornado like, I get it, the
49:37
whole joke about me not understanding things, uh hah. But Rio is a
49:42
real place. They can finally make it officially canon. It's real. It's
49:45
a real place. Did anything happen in two thousand and four April? Yes,
49:51
they did. I'm glad you asked. April twenty first, two thousand
49:53
and four, at the Tennessee State Fairgrounds Arena in Nashville, Tennessee, AJ
49:59
Styles defeated Double J Jeff Jarrett in a steel cage matt match to become the
50:04
new NWA World's Heavyweight Champion. Okay, now Josh's over there trying to figure
50:12
out if Rio de Janeira is a repeat what happened in twenty eighteen? Anything
50:16
April twenty first, twenty eighteen was actually in DNA. Yeah. Vaulta,
50:23
now known as Gunter Yes, became the new PWG champion at the PWG All
50:30
Star weekend fourteen show after defeating both Jonah Rock and Keith Lee in a three
50:36
way match. I bet you that was insane. I will say I thought
50:38
that said Jonah Hill. I thought that too when I first put this down
50:42
on was that Jonah Hill. Never mink what was Jonah Hill in this match?
50:45
Well, I mean, for those of you that do not know,
50:47
PWG is a is an independent promotion in southern California, so it kinda is
50:52
not out of the realm of possibility because they they had Sophia Vigara. Is
50:58
that how you? I don't know, off of Modern the girl off of
51:00
Modern Family. She woman, Yes, a girl, Well the lady,
51:07
the lady, pretty lady, lady there, lady, my god. Whatever
51:17
came with this Jonah Rock guy, I don't know, I wanted to.
51:21
We'll look up about him later. Anyway. That is everything for on this
51:25
day in wrestling history. Just to wrap everything up, but we have the
51:29
main event where we go ahead and let you know what's going on locally and
51:30
what's going on on your television for lots of pretty ladies for uh, for
51:37
the upcoming week of Professional Wrestling. Appalachian Championship Wrestling. This is locally.
51:43
Appleachian Championship Wrestling will hold Extreme Impact at Bluegrass Wrestling Con six and cattle Letsburg,
51:50
Catletsburg. Jesus, you have it right in front of you. Have
51:54
you never left Charleston? Yes, you're over there like she's the girl,
52:00
says the pretty lady. Okay, Appleatchim Championship Wrestling. We'll hold cat Stream
52:05
Impact at Bluegrass Wrestling Con six and Katlitsburg, Kentucky at the Boyd Convention and
52:10
Art Center, Meet and greet at eleven am to two pm, bell time
52:15
at two pm. Tickets front row thirty dollars, twenty five second row in
52:20
general admission is twenty dollars or two for thirty. So bring your friend,
52:24
bring your wife, bring your wife's boyfriend. It doesn't matter. Ha'd your
52:28
kids had your wife? Really? I don't have kids. Real Shoot Wrestling
52:34
will present Elk Stampede at the Parkersburg Elk Lodge in Parkersburg, West Virginia.
52:38
Event is from six pm to eight pm, and tickets are ten dollars or
52:43
two for twenty. Yes or music at eight thirty that night. Oh okay,
52:47
all right, what yeah, there's no music that night and it's a
52:52
ten bucks, So it's really twenty bucks. You want to do both?
52:53
Okay, what's that? It's not about it love music from I have no
52:57
idea. Nah, well it's a it's Parkersburke. Okay, yep, that's
53:02
top notch story there, Josh, thank you and speaking of top notch,
53:06
you see segue. Top not D Wrestling Alliance will hold untamed in new Haven,
53:13
West Virginia, at the New Haven Community Center. When is belltime?
53:15
Bell time? Is that sick? How much is it? Admission is ten
53:19
dollars above. For kids, they are seven dollars and kids five and under
53:22
get in free. This event is being held in memory of the Dark Angel,
53:25
Ryan James. It's also kids ages six to twelve or seven dollars and
53:30
kids five and underget on free. And yes, in memory of the Dark
53:35
Angel Ryan James. Yes. As far as television for professional wrestling, this
53:38
week, it's your regularly scheduled programming Monday. Monday night will be ROLL,
53:44
Tuesday will be NXT, Wednesday will be Dynamite, Thursday will be Ring of
53:46
Honor and TNA. Friday will be Rampage but SmackDown. This will be the
53:53
first night of the Draft, so just keep that in mind. The draft
53:57
will start this upcoming Friday night, and then of course Saturday will be also
54:02
on Tuesday. What is NBA also on Tuesday? Yeah? Yeah? Oh
54:07
are they going to are they starting on the c W Oh yeah yeah,
54:12
okay, we're sorry. Sometimes we forget about it. That's everything, you
54:15
know what? I would never forget about the NWA. What the fact that
54:19
they had Tyris as their championship. Why it all circles back, ladies and
54:23
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