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- 0:15Speaker 1: Welcome to the Sectuary where good Bot tap ed. I
- 0:17Speaker 1: just wanted to say that the way Jeff says, that's.
- 0:19Speaker 2: How you do it.
- 0:20Speaker 1: That's how you do it on the Sectuary where good
- 0:22Speaker 1: Pot tap ed.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Hey, you guys almost got a very special solo Chase
- 0:28Speaker 2: Todd of the Sanctuary this week.
- 0:30Speaker 1: And I was like, Nope, can't let that happen. I
- 0:32Speaker 1: got I gotta get one here.
- 0:34Speaker 2: He was like, Hey, how's after ten pm work?
- 0:38Speaker 1: After you and Jonathan having to listen to you guys
- 0:40Speaker 1: for forty minutes, I couldn't go another week.
- 0:42Speaker 2: You know, don't start with me. I got you immediately
- 0:47Speaker 2: sent you guys did great.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Hey, no, I did actually say that it was a
- 0:53Speaker 1: really fun episode. It's like Jonathan said, it was the
- 0:55Speaker 1: house party episode where all the adults are gone and
- 0:58Speaker 1: then the two juvenile delinquents can just party.
- 1:02Speaker 2: We're club, club, condo or whatever it is that Jeff
- 1:07Speaker 2: was talking.
- 1:08Speaker 1: You're in club garage. Chase is recording in his garage today.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:13Speaker 2: The studio, the Bramble Jam Studio is actually moving to
- 1:17Speaker 2: a new location, so we are remote.
- 1:20Speaker 1: We're moving into the Bramble House. We went from the
- 1:23Speaker 1: Bramble studio and now it's it's gonna be a whole
- 1:25Speaker 1: bramble Jam house. And we got we got a thing
- 1:28Speaker 1: on the mural. See Bramble Jam. They had a mural
- 1:31Speaker 1: and they gave us a little torch on there.
- 1:33Speaker 2: And maybe they'll give us the keys to the house
- 1:35Speaker 2: and when they're out of town, we'll throw a house
- 1:37Speaker 2: party like that.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yeah, next time brand is in Texas, we're gonna invite
- 1:42Speaker 1: Johnny Fairplay over to the bramble Jam mansion.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Heck yeah, man. So what is on the agenda for
- 1:50Speaker 2: this week? I do want to bring up one very
- 1:53Speaker 2: important thing first, and that is we were off by
- 1:57Speaker 2: one week with the double elimination predicted.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Yeah, we should talk about that first because we were
- 2:01Speaker 1: so confident that we had it all mapped out and
- 2:03Speaker 1: we're like, this is where it happens. What we didn't
- 2:05Speaker 1: think was it's always two groups of six, and two
- 2:08Speaker 1: groups of six equals twelve, and we.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Were like number thirteen, Like yeah, double, but yeah, double
- 2:15Speaker 2: elimination is happening this upcoming week at the release of
- 2:18Speaker 2: this episode tomorrow, I believe.
- 2:21Speaker 1: And if you're somebody who is in a survivor draft,
- 2:23Speaker 1: it's always terrifying.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about let's talk about that. So right now,
- 2:29Speaker 2: going into double elimination week, all four of our different
- 2:34Speaker 2: draft teams are, we're going in with three players left each.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Should we talk about I mean, I'm assuming some people
- 2:42Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have who the teams are spoiled, because
- 2:45Speaker 1: I didn't neither at first, and then you were a
- 2:46Speaker 1: texting me about how you were mapping out all the
- 2:49Speaker 1: possibilities and I was like, Okay, I think I want
- 2:51Speaker 1: to also be part.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Of this, so well, this is this is what happened.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Because neither of us like spoilers, Like we don't like
- 2:56Speaker 2: when things get leaked. But you were like, oh, dude,
- 2:59Speaker 2: is Double Nation this week. I was like, oh, how'd
- 3:01Speaker 2: you see that? And you said, oh, this person on Twitter,
- 3:04Speaker 2: so before you could send the Texas said oh, watch
- 3:06Speaker 2: out for spoilers. I had already opened it and so
- 3:11Speaker 2: I saw it. But I was just kind of like,
- 3:13Speaker 2: I don't know, it really doesn't doesn't spoil much. It
- 3:15Speaker 2: just kind of tells you who's going to be going
- 3:18Speaker 2: to each tribal. But we don't need to bring that
- 3:20Speaker 2: up because I'm sure there's a lot of people that
- 3:22Speaker 2: would not want to know.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Yeah, so in case you're one of those people, we're
- 3:25Speaker 1: gonna spare you.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Best case for our draft. Jonathan and Kristen lose two
- 3:30Speaker 2: players from their team and they only have one person
- 3:33Speaker 2: left for the rest of the season.
- 3:36Speaker 1: This whole time, they've kind of it felt like they've
- 3:38Speaker 1: dominated it, but it all could change tomorrow, and it will.
- 3:42Speaker 1: I'm going to say it will. They're going to lose
- 3:43Speaker 1: their entire team to vote outs one Medavac.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Dang. Can you imagine if on double elimination week they
- 3:51Speaker 2: also get a Metavac.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be crazy. One thing I have on
- 3:55Speaker 1: the agenda besides you know double elimination is is somebody
- 4:00Speaker 1: who is going to be in that double elimination Cedric.
- 4:03Speaker 1: I want to bring up a comment that you made
- 4:06Speaker 1: last week now when I was listening to the Jonathan
- 4:09Speaker 1: and Chase sanctuary. Jonathan made me mad a couple times, okay,
- 4:13Speaker 1: but Chase didn't make me mad. There was just one
- 4:16Speaker 1: thing that you said that I was like, what are
- 4:19Speaker 1: you talking about? You guys are laying out all the
- 4:22Speaker 1: crazy stuff that's happened to Cedric, and you said, what if,
- 4:25Speaker 1: like this is the new metastrat and I'm sitting there
- 4:28Speaker 1: thinking what could possibly be like, what could you replicate
- 4:34Speaker 1: from Cedric's strategy? He's been in the most unique positions
- 4:38Speaker 1: ever in Survivor that he doesn't want to be in.
- 4:40Speaker 1: I feel like you couldn't recreate Cedric's game if you tried,
- 4:44Speaker 1: like a thousand times.
- 4:46Speaker 2: That is a very good point. You make a very
- 4:47Speaker 2: slow part. I thought I was about to like ar you,
- 4:49Speaker 2: but you're exactly right. I think what I meant. What
- 4:53Speaker 2: I meant was the fact that he has been so
- 4:56Speaker 2: bad at challenges, but you been in control of his
- 5:00Speaker 2: tribes voting each time. That's totally It is very very
- 5:06Speaker 2: especially when you're the one causing them to lose every
- 5:08Speaker 2: single week. But like now, I think people are gonna
- 5:12Speaker 2: keep him around because he's not a challenge threat. Yeah.
- 5:15Speaker 1: I think people are gonna look at Say and Mary,
- 5:18Speaker 1: the other two old Green people, and think they're way
- 5:21Speaker 1: bigger threats than Cedric.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Well bigger threats. And also they don't really have team like,
- 5:27Speaker 2: they don't have tight alliances with anyone. As much as
- 5:30Speaker 2: I love Mother Mary and I'm hoping that she goes
- 5:32Speaker 2: for the win, I'm very scared going into double elimination
- 5:36Speaker 2: this week because she doesn't have she's not a part
- 5:38Speaker 2: of that big tough guy alliance with Eva and Joe
- 5:41Speaker 2: and all them and uh. And she's also not a
- 5:45Speaker 2: part of the rival alliance, which isn't even really an alliance,
- 5:49Speaker 2: it's just say in her like goons. Well, that leads
- 5:52Speaker 2: into a deleted scene that we got from last week
- 5:55Speaker 2: where we see Mary being very friendly with some of
- 5:58Speaker 2: the tribe mates. You want to jump into.
- 6:00Speaker 1: That, yeah, sure. So Mary was sewing Mitch's pants and
- 6:04Speaker 1: Chrissy asks if well, Chrissy is speaking, Chrissy is speaking, Chrissy,
- 6:11Speaker 1: I did the sound drop myself because Brand's not here.
- 6:13Speaker 1: Chrissy asked if Mary is sewing, and Mitch says, Mary
- 6:17Speaker 1: is sewing my pants. Suck and have them on tonight.
- 6:19Speaker 2: For Jeffrey, Mitch is so funny. He's just the most
- 6:24Speaker 2: lovable guy in the world. He's extremely charismatic. He here's
- 6:28Speaker 2: the thing about Mitch, There's no way he's gonna make
- 6:31Speaker 2: Final three because anyone, no one would be dumb enough
- 6:34Speaker 2: to take him to the Final three. He would win immediately.
- 6:36Speaker 1: When he's like just so giddy about like I get
- 6:39Speaker 1: to have my pants for Jeffrey, how are you gonna
- 6:41Speaker 1: beat that guy?
- 6:43Speaker 2: You're not? He is in a rough situation though his
- 6:46Speaker 2: number one went home last week.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Yeah, and he looked just completely blindsided. Yeah, it was
- 6:52Speaker 1: a bad episode. It was like the first bad episode
- 6:54Speaker 1: for Mitch. He had been riding so high and then
- 6:57Speaker 1: he loses his first ever challenge. Yeah, and then his
- 7:00Speaker 1: ally get sent home. The only person that liked Charity
- 7:04Speaker 1: is that.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Was That was his first time at tribal too, right, Yeah,
- 7:08Speaker 2: it was so just a just a rough episode for
- 7:10Speaker 2: the Mitch Dog. That brings up something that you texted
- 7:14Speaker 2: into the group chat and I didn't understand it. So
- 7:19Speaker 2: if if this is like a personal joke, we can
- 7:23Speaker 2: cut this. But Jonathan says that he thinks that it'll
- 7:27Speaker 2: go down in history that his greatest mistake was drafting Charity.
- 7:30Speaker 2: And then you said, but if Mitch goes home next week,
- 7:33Speaker 2: it'll be like, does it even matter that you picked her?
- 7:36Speaker 2: I didn't understand.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well I was saying that because what Kristen
- 7:40Speaker 1: and Jonathan were arguing about was Mitch or Charity. So
- 7:45Speaker 1: if both of them go home, okay, that means Jonathan
- 7:49Speaker 1: could not have possibly made a correct choice anyway, But
- 7:55Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to judge it by like
- 7:57Speaker 1: making it in the game a little bit longer, then yeah,
- 8:00Speaker 1: Jonathan made the wrong choice, which he is one to do.
- 8:02Speaker 1: He's big on making the wrong choice.
- 8:05Speaker 2: We're big on making the merge. He's big on making
- 8:07Speaker 2: the wrong choice.
- 8:09Speaker 1: The only other thing in that scene with Mitch was
- 8:12Speaker 1: he said, after you know, he's so excited about Jeffrey
- 8:15Speaker 1: seeing his new pants, he said, it's so hard to
- 8:17Speaker 1: know what's gameplay and what's not. And when Mary was done,
- 8:21Speaker 1: you know, Mitch was extremely happy, But there was a
- 8:24Speaker 1: little bit where he's like, is this is her sewing
- 8:26Speaker 1: up my pants an ultimate strategic winning move?
- 8:31Speaker 2: It's a gamer strat, dude.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Cedric, you gotta be the new The
- 8:36Speaker 1: new strategy to win Survivor is to sew people's pants,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and also to be the worst challenge player and to
- 8:44Speaker 1: vote for every person on your tribe. If you do
- 8:46Speaker 1: those things, you're.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think Mitch would be a little bit
- 8:53Speaker 2: more open to latching on to someone like Mary, especially
- 8:56Speaker 2: now that his number one charity is going But Mitch,
- 8:59Speaker 2: I think he just thinks that he's in a really
- 9:00Speaker 2: good position, which he is.
- 9:02Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see if Cedric tries to like
- 9:06Speaker 1: form anything with Mary, because you would think after he
- 9:10Speaker 1: said y'all too need to cut it, he would also
- 9:12Speaker 1: be invested in Mary. But like, I don't think we've
- 9:15Speaker 1: seen a ton of them being tied at all, well
- 9:17Speaker 1: because Mary is not interested, right, no, Say is not interested,
- 9:20Speaker 1: but Cedric thinks that.
- 9:22Speaker 2: They are maybe because it is well not say anymore.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I was about to say, like the second that that
- 9:28Speaker 2: one alliance went to Cedric and was like, hey, are
- 9:31Speaker 2: you good to are you sure you okay with voting Say?
- 9:34Speaker 2: And he was like, I voted for her twice. Cedric's
- 9:37Speaker 2: all over the place, he really is, and that's what
- 9:40Speaker 2: makes him a genius. And he's going to win the game.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Here's what's crazy, though he could win the game.
- 9:47Speaker 1: He could for the sake of our show. There are
- 9:49Speaker 1: two people that I want to make it far just
- 9:53Speaker 1: because I have put bits on them, like we Chrissy
- 9:55Speaker 1: number one, Chrissy is speaking every time she has a confessional,
- 9:59Speaker 1: we get some mile out of it on the show.
- 10:01Speaker 1: And then number two is I've turned Cedric into a
- 10:04Speaker 1: demon that pops in on the show and we lose
- 10:07Speaker 1: that if Cedric goes home or Christy goes home.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean we can we'll come up with
- 10:12Speaker 2: different bits, of course, But the Demon Cedric bit, I mean,
- 10:16Speaker 2: that's just great. The only bad part if Cedric wins
- 10:19Speaker 2: the game is that Jonathan would get his first ever
- 10:22Speaker 2: win from Cedric.
- 10:26Speaker 1: That would be a we all consider quitting the podcast
- 10:29Speaker 1: on that. I think it's like, hey, guys, we built
- 10:31Speaker 1: something great here, let's pack it in.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:34Speaker 1: Yeah, Cedric killed.
- 10:35Speaker 2: The merge because it's like Cedric, who is like the
- 10:40Speaker 2: worst Challenge player of all time and Jonathan, who's the
- 10:43Speaker 2: worst Survivor Draft player of all time, joined forces and
- 10:48Speaker 2: won the season together.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Yeah Cedric, I don't know. He He's made me feel
- 10:54Speaker 1: so conflicted because he's made all these terrible decisions. But
- 10:57Speaker 1: it's like it's it's clear that his Challenge performance that's
- 11:00Speaker 1: part of him, and the Challenge is struggling so hard.
- 11:02Speaker 1: It's really affecting him. And it's hard to watch because
- 11:06Speaker 1: you can see although he makes some out there choices,
- 11:10Speaker 1: he's a nice guy.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's And he's really great to watch too,
- 11:14Speaker 2: Like he there's never a time where I'm like, I
- 11:18Speaker 2: wish that would show less cedric.
- 11:20Speaker 1: I think if we got an extended cut that was
- 11:23Speaker 1: just a half hour of extra cedric, that people would
- 11:26Speaker 1: sign up for paramount.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Plus oo much so.
- 11:31Speaker 1: I actually I have a segment that I would like
- 11:34Speaker 1: to debut. And this is a segment I like to
- 11:37Speaker 1: call Sorting Survivor Reddit threads by controversials episode six edition.
- 11:45Speaker 2: I don't even understand what this is supposed to be.
- 11:47Speaker 2: I'm excited.
- 11:48Speaker 1: If you go to Reddit and you're in the comments,
- 11:51Speaker 1: there is a button that you can click where you
- 11:53Speaker 1: can sort the comments by top or best or new
- 11:56Speaker 1: or controversial, and those are the ones that have gotten
- 12:00Speaker 1: like the most up votes and down votes. This is
- 12:03Speaker 1: people reacting to episode six. Let's some say talking here,
- 12:09Speaker 1: we'll get to that first new Ish Survivor fan. Is
- 12:12Speaker 1: it common for players as bad as Say to make
- 12:14Speaker 1: it this far into the game.
- 12:17Speaker 2: I think that is a controversial take. I don't think
- 12:19Speaker 2: Say is bad at the game.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I think their point is that she's voted incorrectly and
- 12:25Speaker 1: like been obnoxious.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I mean, she she gets advantages. She she she hasn't
- 12:31Speaker 2: been vincent home like she's she.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Was two votes shy of being sent home, and she
- 12:37Speaker 1: was also pretty close that deadlock was Cedric.
- 12:41Speaker 2: She would have been three vote short if she hadn't
- 12:44Speaker 2: voted for CC. Yeah, if she hadn't shot herself in
- 12:47Speaker 2: the foot just to be petty. You know.
- 12:49Speaker 1: We actually we got a comment about this on Spotify.
- 12:54Speaker 1: Let's see Claudia. Claudia said, my personal head canon is
- 12:59Speaker 1: that say thought she was on her way out and thought, well,
- 13:01Speaker 1: if Cedrica ends up winning, he's not having a perfect game.
- 13:09Speaker 1: So hey, it's a great theory by Claudia, and like
- 13:11Speaker 1: and say did actually like we discussed it. We were like,
- 13:14Speaker 1: what possible reason would she do this? And Brand was like,
- 13:18Speaker 1: there could There can't be any reason other than pettiness.
- 13:21Speaker 1: And then say confirmed on Instagram, I just did this
- 13:24Speaker 1: to be petty.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Yeah, and you said I might not ever get the
- 13:28Speaker 2: answer to that. So I'm really glad that she took
- 13:31Speaker 2: to Instagram to clear that up.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Say here's a zero vote Reddit comment
- 13:36Speaker 1: that popped up when I sorted by controversial say still
- 13:40Speaker 1: being there feels like somebody brought their annoying kid on
- 13:43Speaker 1: the show with them. Is it bring your kid to
- 13:45Speaker 1: work day on Survivor? Is she just gonna get votes
- 13:48Speaker 1: at every single tribal council because that's all she's done
- 13:50Speaker 1: so far.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Well, to answer your question, probably, but also I don't
- 13:55Speaker 2: think so. It seems like Say is the most like
- 13:58Speaker 2: divided player, the most coniversional player, at.
- 14:01Speaker 1: Least in these reddit comments. These people hate her.
- 14:03Speaker 2: You either love her or hate her. I think she's
- 14:05Speaker 2: extremely entertaining. I think she's great for the season. I
- 14:08Speaker 2: think she's a good player. I think she's just playing
- 14:10Speaker 2: a different game. Do I think she's gonna win? Probably not.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I don't think her social game has been solid, Like
- 14:16Speaker 2: if she had a solid alliance right now with anyone
- 14:19Speaker 2: at all, maybe maybe. But I don't think she's playing
- 14:24Speaker 2: a bad game. I mean, the only thing that's gone
- 14:26Speaker 2: wrong is like she was on the losing tribe for
- 14:30Speaker 2: the first four weeks and now she's at the bottom
- 14:34Speaker 2: because she she has a hard time not being involved.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that part of it with these
- 14:39Speaker 1: Reddit comments is just like, oh, she's loud, I hate
- 14:42Speaker 1: her when like to me, Okay, at the beginning of
- 14:45Speaker 1: the show, I didn't like Say because I thought Say
- 14:49Speaker 1: was going to be responsible for voting out Mary. Now
- 14:51Speaker 1: that I know that's not gonna happen, or at least
- 14:54Speaker 1: it seems like it's not gonna happen. I have come
- 14:56Speaker 1: around and I've actually I've boarded the Say train, the
- 15:00Speaker 1: stay trained.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Dude. You hopped on the caboose right before it left
- 15:03Speaker 2: the station, dude.
- 15:04Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, brand is in the front with some kind
- 15:06Speaker 1: of top hat.
- 15:07Speaker 2: I don't know, so imagine all the board. Here's here's
- 15:17Speaker 2: what I think. I think that when it comes to
- 15:24Speaker 2: Survivor fans, they all go, oh, I wish it was
- 15:27Speaker 2: like old era. I wish it was like old era.
- 15:31Speaker 2: That Say is old era. Say is the epitome of
- 15:34Speaker 2: what an old era player was. She's making enemies, she
- 15:38Speaker 2: doesn't care if she comes across a little rude or loud.
- 15:41Speaker 2: She she's outspoken. And now you're like, oh, I hate it.
- 15:45Speaker 2: And it's like, what do you want them to be?
- 15:47Speaker 2: Do you want it to be entertaining or not?
- 15:49Speaker 1: I know. And then part of what people are bringing
- 15:51Speaker 1: up is like she votes incorrectly, and I'm like, who
- 15:54Speaker 1: gives a crap about that? It's like, oh, Rupert didn't
- 15:56Speaker 1: vote correctly every tribal and so he can't be a legend.
- 16:00Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying say it's a legend like Rupper.
- 16:03Speaker 1: I'm just saying, yeah, you could be, and that voting
- 16:06Speaker 1: correctly every time is not your survivor legacy. Nobody's gonna
- 16:09Speaker 1: remember that.
- 16:11Speaker 2: In fact, some of the most memorable players of all
- 16:13Speaker 2: time are because they didn't vote correctly.
- 16:16Speaker 1: I don't think those kind of comments make you angry.
- 16:18Speaker 1: It's just like I think that you just have trash takes.
- 16:21Speaker 1: So with fifty two up votes, I was shocked to
- 16:25Speaker 1: see this many when sorting my controversial But somebody said,
- 16:30Speaker 1: I'm getting kind of annoyed with Eva and Joe's self
- 16:33Speaker 1: righteousness there. I said, Ito, interesting is it? I'm assuming
- 16:39Speaker 1: it's about the honest alliance.
- 16:42Speaker 2: I guess so. I mean, here's the thing I under
- 16:45Speaker 2: I've been seeing a lot of people. There's been some
- 16:48Speaker 2: fans of charity popping up in our comments section, and it's.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Reason those two.
- 16:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll bring those up. But the general consensus
- 16:58Speaker 2: I'm seeing from some people online, especially people that are
- 17:01Speaker 2: like defending charity saying, hey, any other time, if someone
- 17:08Speaker 2: everyone knew that somebody had an immunity idol, they would
- 17:13Speaker 2: get they would be the target. So they're saying that
- 17:16Speaker 2: Eva is being treated like I guess, with like privilege
- 17:21Speaker 2: or unfairly, and that leads us to the comments where
- 17:24Speaker 2: there is a full blown argument happening in our TikTok
- 17:27Speaker 2: comments right now. It starts off with someone saying exactly
- 17:30Speaker 2: what we just said, Charity shouldn't have played so hard,
- 17:33Speaker 2: But normally a universally known about idol gets flushed out immediately,
- 17:37Speaker 2: no questions asked. Kind of weird. Everyone's just gonna let
- 17:41Speaker 2: Eva move forward with it, to which someone says, that's
- 17:43Speaker 2: the perks of building a strong alliance that doesn't instantly
- 17:46Speaker 2: try to blindside the person with the idol. Someone else
- 17:50Speaker 2: jumps in. It's about timing. Obviously, Eva is a huge
- 17:53Speaker 2: threat with the idol and soon is going to get targeted,
- 17:56Speaker 2: but Charity should have known that no one would right
- 17:59Speaker 2: after Eva's open this prior episode. And then that ended
- 18:02Speaker 2: with the original commenter saying, I for sure thought Eva
- 18:06Speaker 2: was just going to play it to get the target
- 18:08Speaker 2: off her back. Next episode should be interesting, So I
- 18:11Speaker 2: don't think that they were malicious when they were saying
- 18:13Speaker 2: it's weird that Eva didn't get targeted, but yeah.
- 18:16Speaker 1: But still people are yes, and they're gonna be people
- 18:21Speaker 1: like Say and Charity, and they're not going to be
- 18:24Speaker 1: the only people who are like, it's time to get
- 18:26Speaker 1: Eva out. And if I had to guess, like less,
- 18:30Speaker 1: unless this Muscle alliance works out, the Honor and Integrity Alliance,
- 18:34Speaker 1: unless it they go all the way, then people are
- 18:37Speaker 1: going to be gunning for Eva and so oh oh.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, Well, I think Eva and Joe as
- 18:44Speaker 2: a tight alliance is the threat. I don't think it's
- 18:46Speaker 2: necessarily about the idol. Yeah, but I mean they seem
- 18:50Speaker 2: to have David on lock. I don't think David is
- 18:53Speaker 2: going to be turning on them. I think that they
- 18:56Speaker 2: have Shaheen on lock. The only people on their alliance
- 19:00Speaker 2: that I think will turn on them is Kyle and Camilla, because.
- 19:03Speaker 1: They don't even know Camilla's in there exactly.
- 19:06Speaker 2: And Kyle and Camilla have been playing probably one of
- 19:08Speaker 2: the best strategic games we've seen in a while.
- 19:11Speaker 1: And that brings me to some comments I saw that
- 19:15Speaker 1: I didn't screenshot, but a lot of sentiment from people
- 19:19Speaker 1: about this season being boring, and I'm just like really
- 19:22Speaker 1: watching the same thing because I've been incredibly entertained.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been my favorite season in a long time,
- 19:30Speaker 2: and that's including like forty six.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Yeah, the forty six to me is still the gold
- 19:36Speaker 1: standard of new era. But if this season can have
- 19:40Speaker 1: as good of a second half as it did the
- 19:41Speaker 1: first they did, then it'll be my favorite one.
- 19:45Speaker 2: Because if you go back and you watch the old
- 19:47Speaker 2: Survivor seasons from like nineteen to thirty two, that whole
- 19:53Speaker 2: era the game doesn't even didn't used to even start
- 19:55Speaker 2: until merge. Pre merge was almost always forgettable, to the
- 20:00Speaker 2: to the point of like you could probably just skip
- 20:02Speaker 2: to Merge if you wanted to on most seasons. This
- 20:06Speaker 2: has been an amazing pre merged season.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like what they say in football, the season
- 20:12Speaker 1: doesn't start until Thanksgiving. It's kind of like Survivor doesn't
- 20:16Speaker 1: start until the merge. And you really do feel that
- 20:17Speaker 1: way a lot of the time. It's like sometimes you'd
- 20:20Speaker 1: be like, I don't even know like half of these
- 20:21Speaker 1: people until you get to the merge.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Yeah, but this season I feel like And I saw
- 20:26Speaker 2: something on the on the Survivor subreddit about this being
- 20:29Speaker 2: like for the first time ever. This was what their
- 20:32Speaker 2: comment said, for the first time ever, I am okay
- 20:34Speaker 2: with if any of the remaining players wins.
- 20:37Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, I agree.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all great characters. They're all very entertaining personalities.
- 20:44Speaker 1: It's gonna say, maybe we should get into the confessional counts,
- 20:46Speaker 1: but I'll just I'll finish out these last couple comments
- 20:50Speaker 1: and then and then we'll look over the confessional counts,
- 20:53Speaker 1: or as Brand called it, tuk time one time. I
- 20:55Speaker 1: like that tuk time. And then Jonathan also had another
- 21:01Speaker 1: word for it. I forgot he called them talking heads.
- 21:07Speaker 1: M It's just like everybody has their own word for it.
- 21:10Speaker 1: I just called it confessionals because I know what they're
- 21:12Speaker 1: actually called.
- 21:13Speaker 2: But talking head is like corporate speak.
- 21:17Speaker 1: But talk time it's pretty fun.
- 21:18Speaker 2: Anyway.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Let's see another comment about Eva. Eva makes me angry.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Everyone was new at one point and no one knows
- 21:26Speaker 1: who to trust. These experiences she thinks are so unique
- 21:29Speaker 1: to her, aren't. And then someone replies, keep in mind
- 21:32Speaker 1: her autism, which greatly affects social aspects of the game.
- 21:36Speaker 1: And then this original poster replied, she has autism. Where
- 21:39Speaker 1: did they mention that? And they meant this genuinely? And
- 21:42Speaker 1: then the person under it said, lmao, she's only told.
- 21:46Speaker 1: She's only told one person and so this must have
- 21:48Speaker 1: been an older thread like where she had only told Joe,
- 21:51Speaker 1: but this first person didn't see it. So she's just like,
- 21:55Speaker 1: what is this girl tripping out about?
- 21:58Speaker 2: Like, Jesus, what is that's crazy? Thread?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Here's one that says an all male alliance plus Eva
- 22:08Speaker 1: who wants to vote based on honor and integrity. Sorry, no,
- 22:12Speaker 1: I'll root forever breaks that up. And then the last
- 22:17Speaker 1: one in the controversial reddit thread is charity is so fine.
- 22:23Speaker 1: Someone's got to say it.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Here's the thing about charity, and you know we I
- 22:30Speaker 2: think everything that is to be said about Charity has
- 22:32Speaker 2: been said at the end of the day. You know,
- 22:36Speaker 2: she made the episode entertaining, so.
- 22:38Speaker 1: She did, like, we might have put up a clip
- 22:42Speaker 1: where we were poking fun at charity, but I'm gonna
- 22:45Speaker 1: say this about everyone we have ever poked fun at.
- 22:47Speaker 2: Ever.
- 22:49Speaker 1: If you want to come on this show and tell
- 22:51Speaker 1: us we suck to our face, we will. Yeah, we'll
- 22:55Speaker 1: have you on and we will agree with you. Yeah,
- 22:59Speaker 1: we do suck. We're just on the couch. You're the
- 23:01Speaker 1: one who actually went on Survivor. We're just making jokes
- 23:03Speaker 1: about it.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just trying to We're just we're just trying
- 23:07Speaker 2: to be funny, you.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Know, so Charity, Like, if you're interested in the off season,
- 23:11Speaker 1: come tell us we suck.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, it'd be great. It'll be great for everybody.
- 23:15Speaker 2: So let's let's get to talk time talk to professional.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Guess who's number one, Say Sayagger almost twice as much
- 23:26Speaker 1: confessional time as every other player. Yeah, I'm looking at it.
- 23:30Speaker 1: She peaked in episode one, but she has steadily had
- 23:34Speaker 1: over a minute in every episode except for episode five.
- 23:38Speaker 1: She is at twelve minutes and ten seconds of total
- 23:41Speaker 1: confessional time.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:43Speaker 1: And then right behind her, we have number two Eva
- 23:46Speaker 1: with seven minutes and forty one seconds.
- 23:49Speaker 2: So that's like a six almost almost a six minute
- 23:52Speaker 2: difference in confessional time from Say to Eva, and that's insane.
- 23:56Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll list out the rest of them. Number three, Kyle,
- 24:00Speaker 1: number four, David, number five, Shaheen six, Camilla, seven, Mary
- 24:06Speaker 1: eight Joe. Joe being eight is pretty crazy because he
- 24:10Speaker 1: feels like such a big part of the season. But
- 24:12Speaker 1: nine Star, ten, Cedric, eleven Mitch, and twelve Chrissy.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Chrissy is speaking. It's important to note that Chrissy has
- 24:22Speaker 2: a total of one minute and fifty two seconds of
- 24:25Speaker 2: confessional time. Almost all of it is from the last
- 24:28Speaker 2: three episodes.
- 24:30Speaker 1: Dang dude, she capped out at forty one seconds, and
- 24:35Speaker 1: then episode one, two and three she okay, So episode
- 24:39Speaker 1: one she got ten seconds, yeah, episode two she got
- 24:42Speaker 1: six seconds, Episode three she got literally nothing.
- 24:46Speaker 2: Which what's very interesting is Joe also got zero confessional
- 24:52Speaker 2: time for episode five, Wow, which is weird because that
- 24:57Speaker 2: is the episode where him and Eva had that moment.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Looking at this is really intriguing because Mitch feels like
- 25:04Speaker 1: such a big character on the season, and him being
- 25:07Speaker 1: second to last of who's left is pretty surprising to me.
- 25:11Speaker 2: I would love to see someone count up screen time, yeah,
- 25:16Speaker 2: versus confessional time, because people like Cedric and Mitch, they're
- 25:21Speaker 2: at the bottom of the confessional list, but they are
- 25:24Speaker 2: on screen constantly. Yeah.
- 25:26Speaker 1: I do think about how one person said, how is
- 25:29Speaker 1: Cedric running the game and he gives nothing in confessionals?
- 25:33Speaker 1: But like you said about the total screen time, that
- 25:36Speaker 1: would be really interesting because like the editors probably aren't
- 25:41Speaker 1: like forty like you know, thinking like, oh, we need
- 25:46Speaker 1: to give this person thirty more seconds so that they
- 25:48Speaker 1: can be number four in the confessional time instead a
- 25:51Speaker 1: number six. I think they're probably a lot more concerned
- 25:54Speaker 1: about like just telling the story.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Yeah, as someone who is edited an episode of a
- 26:01Speaker 2: reality show. Uh, the confessionals are just used like they're
- 26:06Speaker 2: probably they're skimming through all of the confessionals and they're
- 26:09Speaker 2: just looking for someone to say something that will help
- 26:12Speaker 2: them segue into the next scene.
- 26:14Speaker 1: What does catch my eye is when scenes get deleted,
- 26:18Speaker 1: scenes that were like already produced and that they had
- 26:21Speaker 1: to cut, because I remember one from Kyle last season
- 26:24Speaker 1: and I need to go look at what it was.
- 26:27Speaker 1: But it was just something really nice about Kyle, probably
- 26:29Speaker 1: like about his backstory, and I remember watching it and thinking,
- 26:33Speaker 1: if this got cut, there's no way this guy's winning.
- 26:36Speaker 1: If he won, this amazing story about himself would be
- 26:39Speaker 1: in the show.
- 26:40Speaker 2: That's that's how we felt in episode one of this
- 26:43Speaker 2: season when our main our boy hurt his shoulder, Yeah, Kevin.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Kevin heard the show that if Kevin won the game,
- 26:52Speaker 1: they'd be showing the shoulder.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Yeah. And that makes me nervous about this moment between
- 26:58Speaker 2: Mitch and Mary in this past episode because following that
- 27:03Speaker 2: same logic, it's like, well, if Mary is the winner,
- 27:06Speaker 2: wouldn't they show her sewing everyone's clothes. Yeah, but I
- 27:11Speaker 2: don't know, maybe that just wasn't that big of a moment,
- 27:14Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 27:16Speaker 1: And now there's like two Shaheen scenes that have kind
- 27:19Speaker 1: of felt that way. The first one I talked about
- 27:21Speaker 1: with Brand where he was annoyed at Star because Star
- 27:25Speaker 1: was telling everybody a very loud story about her friend
- 27:27Speaker 1: trying to give birth to a Nicki Minaj song and
- 27:29Speaker 1: then you know, the baby wouldn't coming out, so they
- 27:31Speaker 1: had to restart the song and Shahem was just trying
- 27:34Speaker 1: to meditate, and it's like, I don't know, maybe I
- 27:37Speaker 1: was like, maybe they didn't show us that because like
- 27:40Speaker 1: Star was funny and they want Shaheen to be likable.
- 27:42Speaker 1: And then this week we also get another Shaheen thing
- 27:46Speaker 1: cut is Shaheen going home soon?
- 27:50Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Shaheen. I think he's most people's
- 27:53Speaker 2: prediction to win the season if they don't start showing
- 27:57Speaker 2: him more. I don't think that's the case because towards
- 28:01Speaker 2: the beginning of the season we got a lot of
- 28:03Speaker 2: Shaheen and he always seemed extremely smart, but I couldn't
- 28:07Speaker 2: tell you like something that he's done. Of note in
- 28:11Speaker 2: the last two or three episodes.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Other than like lose Thomas, there was the whole Star saga.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Pretty much everything we've gotten from Shaheen revolves around Thomas. Yeah,
- 28:24Speaker 1: so yeah, it's gonna be interesting, but he is number
- 28:28Speaker 1: five on talk Time.
- 28:29Speaker 2: That's true. And I mean, we're we're just now at merge.
- 28:32Speaker 2: It can be a whole new game from here on. Now.
- 28:35Speaker 2: You know, we're really not gonna know that the way
- 28:38Speaker 2: that the game is going to progress for the next
- 28:39Speaker 2: few weeks until this week with double elimination.
- 28:43Speaker 1: And I would say, let's let's give our predictions on
- 28:46Speaker 1: who's going home, But now that we know what the
- 28:49Speaker 1: teams are, we our predictions would be too detailed. So
- 28:53Speaker 1: how about we've we project three weeks ahead from now
- 28:57Speaker 1: who goes home in episode nine? Then if either of us.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Can get it, Okay, okay, that would be incredible, that
- 29:06Speaker 2: would be wild. Okay. So right now, there's twelve players
- 29:10Speaker 2: left in the game. After double elimination, this week there
- 29:12Speaker 2: will be ten players left, and then the next week,
- 29:16Speaker 2: the following week, I think we're gonna lose a bigger
- 29:22Speaker 2: a bigger loss maybe, And I'm going to say that
- 29:25Speaker 2: we lose David David.
- 29:28Speaker 1: That's a good pick. I want to be right about
- 29:33Speaker 1: this because it's such a ridiculous game to try it. Okay,
- 29:38Speaker 1: episode nine, I'm gonna say Joe goes home.
- 29:43Speaker 2: That's a good prediction. I almost said Joe David instead.
- 29:48Speaker 1: And if me or Chase is correct, means nothing. This
- 29:52Speaker 1: is just a random throwaway game on the Sanctuary.
- 29:55Speaker 2: What if those are the two that go home this
- 29:57Speaker 2: week for double elimination, be crazy.
- 30:00Speaker 1: I don't even remember if they're on the same team
- 30:02Speaker 1: or not.
- 30:02Speaker 2: I don't remember either. But we're not gonna We're not
- 30:04Speaker 2: gonna mention it.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Even if they were, we won't go look at that.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Because this is the Sanctuary where good pods happen.
- 30:12Speaker 1: That's right. And next week we have on Rome and Sue.
- 30:18Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Wouldn't that be a great guest list
- 30:22Speaker 1: them Sue some rap battle. Yeah, we're gonna have like
- 30:25Speaker 1: the most Hated round table next week, the most Hated
- 30:30Speaker 1: New Era round table. We'll have Charity Carson, even though
- 30:34Speaker 1: he's hated in retrospect.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Not really, Yeah, he was just hated because Homeboy was
- 30:38Speaker 2: trying to make a dollar. Trying to make a dollar.
- 30:41Speaker 1: After this season trying to extort his his blonde friend.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that. And this is a
- 30:49Speaker 2: hot take before we leave, we could we could hit
- 30:52Speaker 2: sort by controversial real quick.
- 30:54Speaker 1: Okay, you want to talk a little. Forty forty four?
- 30:56Speaker 1: Is that what it was forty four before we were Yeah,
- 30:59Speaker 1: Carolyn was on forty four.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Yeah. I do not think that Carolyn would be as
- 31:05Speaker 2: talked about online as she is if she had no
- 31:09Speaker 2: going on the Traders.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Hmmm. When your Survivor season was four seasons ago, you're
- 31:16Speaker 1: you're just kind of out of the spotlight. So good
- 31:17Speaker 1: on her for going on the Traders and then making
- 31:19Speaker 1: herself a huge star. I've seen so many Carolyn impressions
- 31:24Speaker 1: online and it's all about Bob Bob, Bob the Drag Queen.
- 31:29Speaker 1: Something about Bob Bob the drag Queen. Like I don't
- 31:32Speaker 1: even know who Bob the Drag Queen is, but I've
- 31:34Speaker 1: heard people pretending to be Carolyn talking about Bob the
- 31:38Speaker 1: Drag Queen.
- 31:39Speaker 2: I think I think they were on Traders. We've never
- 31:42Speaker 2: seen Traders, and I think the goal is one day
- 31:46Speaker 2: for us to to to do Traders for the show.
- 31:49Speaker 1: I think that their next season is going to be
- 31:52Speaker 1: filming in January or it's gonna be airing, and I say,
- 31:55Speaker 1: let's let's cover it. Why not, that'll be d drag.
- 31:59Speaker 2: We'll do it draft and everything. I think what we
- 32:01Speaker 2: should do to prepare because we've never seen the show,
- 32:05Speaker 2: Probably watch the old seasons. We should watch the old
- 32:07Speaker 2: seasons or else we.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Wouldn't even know how a draft would work because it
- 32:10Speaker 1: probably does not follow the same pattern as Survivor as
- 32:13Speaker 1: a game.
- 32:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't imagine it does, but I know, I know.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Boston Robb was on, so I'm in. I'm in.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get in the lab, let's get on Peacock,
- 32:23Speaker 1: Let's watch the old seasons, figure out how this thing works,
- 32:25Speaker 1: and hopefully Russell hansill be on season four.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're gonna do Dealer No Deal Island.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Oh gosh, now as Rob was on that too, right.
- 32:33Speaker 1: Gosh, Okay, they Traders is like, it feels like a
- 32:36Speaker 1: big deal. I get it. Survivor Legends, Do not debase
- 32:40Speaker 1: yourself and go on Dealer No Deal Island. You have
- 32:44Speaker 1: this legacy of being on an iconic show, and then
- 32:48Speaker 1: you're gonna go beyond Howie Mandel Island.
- 32:52Speaker 2: I guess they. I guess they just have to make money. Dude,
- 32:55Speaker 2: you know how he's not even there. It's Joe, Joe Magne.
- 33:00Speaker 2: I can't ever say his last name. Yeah. I just
- 33:03Speaker 2: love Survivor history. I love everything about this show except
- 33:08Speaker 2: except for Carolyn from forty four.
- 33:11Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Jonathan, no, no, no, Well.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Guys, this is the sanctuary where a good pot happened. Jonathan,
- 33:21Speaker 1: we love you. Carolyn. I love you too. I thought
- 33:23Speaker 1: you were fun. So I hope you come back. I
- 33:27Speaker 1: hope Jeff lets go of his jealousy, you know, unless
- 33:30Speaker 1: you come on the show.
- 33:33Speaker 2: When I say I didn't like Carolyn, I know we
- 33:36Speaker 2: have to leave. I just mean the way that it
- 33:40Speaker 2: seems online and the way that it seems she has gone,
- 33:44Speaker 2: she is more likely to be a Trader's Hall of
- 33:46Speaker 2: Famer than a Survivor Hall of Famer.
- 33:49Speaker 1: Yeah, there is the iconic moment of that people have
- 33:53Speaker 1: dunked on Franny so much, and I think this is
- 33:55Speaker 1: like the only thing people remember from Franny where she
- 33:58Speaker 1: looked at Carolyn. I think this is like final tribal
- 34:01Speaker 1: after the game is over, after Franny has already voted
- 34:05Speaker 1: for Jam Jam. She looks at Carolyn and she goes like,
- 34:09Speaker 1: you have like had an impact on me that has
- 34:12Speaker 1: like changed my life forever.
- 34:15Speaker 2: And it's like.
- 34:15Speaker 1: Based on what what did she do?
- 34:20Speaker 2: What did she do?
- 34:21Speaker 1: What did Carolyn possibly do over like twelve weeks in
- 34:26Speaker 1: Survivor that shanged not even twelve week, twenty six days?
- 34:29Speaker 1: That changed your life forever? Franny? You know who changed
- 34:31Speaker 1: your life forever? Matt, the guy that you met there
- 34:34Speaker 1: and married. But she didn't know that they were gonna
- 34:36Speaker 1: get married at the time.
- 34:37Speaker 2: I guess.
- 34:37Speaker 1: So maybe Carolyn at that point was more life changing.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Carolyn introduced her to him.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Maybe Carolyn was the wingwoman.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's how she did that.
- 34:48Speaker 1: And remember the bird cage idol Okay yeah, wing woman,
- 34:52Speaker 1: bird cage. It all comes back together. This has been
- 34:55Speaker 1: making the merge.
- 34:56Speaker 2: Hey, we'll see you later this week for our main pod,
- 34:59Speaker 2: where we'll be talking about this awesome double elimination episode
- 35:02Speaker 2: that we will hopefully be getting. Yep.
- 35:05Speaker 1: Bye, guys.
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- 35:18Speaker 2: I mean, you're listening to me Hi. But here they come.
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