Latest / DMV Mess Hall / "Where There's Smoke..." episode 199
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- 0:00Hi folks, this is Rick Doc. Walker to DOC.
- 0:02This is John Kime, and you're listening to the mess hall with
- 0:05rally Captain and tailgate Ted E.
- 0:09L. GLESEO, what's going on?
- 0:16Rally, welcome back from the City of Brotherly Love.
- 0:19Man, how you doing? Never gets old.
- 0:25Never gets old. Hey, I'm alive.
- 0:29I'm well. You know the link.
- 0:31It is as bad as people say it is.
- 0:34I'm I'm still here in one piece, you know, and I have to tell
- 0:38you, man, Philadelphia fans obviously are Philadelphia fans.
- 0:44You have just tune them out. Did I hear some choice words?
- 0:48Of course. Did more so than any other
- 0:51stadium, Yes, a little bit more. However, when you go there, you
- 0:56just got to tune out. You do and, and, and enjoy
- 1:00yourself to the best of your whether we win, lose or we die.
- 1:06Now before I go any further, I got to address the elephant in
- 1:11the room, which is a lot of fans who do not want us to win.
- 1:16And they really thought that the 5th pick was going to be that
- 1:23much better than the 7th pick. And Ted, I got to tell you, man,
- 1:29I I'm catching a lot of crap because they're called me a Dick
- 1:33rider of the team that they're they're calling me a Dick rider
- 1:39of the team because stuff like I reason why that that the team
- 1:45wants to be mediocre because our fans can't stick together.
- 1:50And so I'm saying, I'm saying wait a minute, are you telling
- 1:55me that you don't know best for your team and winning is the
- 1:59best thing for this team? Regardless what anybody said,
- 2:02winning is the betting for this team can say that we are
- 2:08defeated in 26. I saw you post that man, and I,
- 2:13I did chuckle, right? Because it's you're not the only
- 2:16one that's posting it. And hey, it's true, right?
- 2:18We are undefeated. In 20. 6 And you know, if we can
- 2:21have we talked about it at the last pod, I felt that the
- 2:24momentum, the negative momentum we had losing 55 to 23 against
- 2:30those bastards up north kind of carried into this offseason.
- 2:34And granted, we beat an Eagles team that refused to start any
- 2:38of their starters and that decision bit them in the butt,
- 2:43but I also think that they chose not to start them because they
- 2:45thought their backups would beat our backups.
- 2:49All right? And I'm just happy to hear it,
- 2:51but I'm pissed to hear that people giving you slack about
- 2:55it, man. I'm, I'm getting the same thing
- 2:57too. Because I, I do remember being
- 2:59in New York for The Jets game, Christmas Eve or so and wanting
- 3:05us to lose that game because that meant we were going to go,
- 3:07if we won from the second pick to the 7th pick or the 8th pick
- 3:13and we weren't going to be able to get Jayden Daniels.
- 3:15But to go from the 5th to the 7th when we already have our
- 3:20franchise quarterback, to me is not that big a deal.
- 3:25And to beat those guys is an even bigger deal than, you know,
- 3:31dropping back two spots. Yeah, also like you said, we
- 3:38played stars but we also played better UPS.
- 3:41Let alone this is what really me.
- 3:45I had Eagle fans saying, yeah, you guys just beat a backup and
- 3:49I said if you guys had beat us, you would be high in high heaven
- 3:56round if you beat us. But the fact is you're upset
- 4:00because a 39 year old backup third string backup quarterback
- 4:06beat you guys come on man, you make this stuff up.
- 4:10Just just be happy that you're in the and you guys are far a
- 4:15far better team than we are. Now.
- 4:18You guys got it goes to you and appreciate that.
- 4:22But no, you got to talk. Try to talk trash to me and
- 4:26whatever, you know what I mean. And I said.
- 4:29They already had excuses lined up, man.
- 4:31Right. And I said one thing you can't
- 4:32take away from me is this. I'm more out of the link.
- 4:36A winner period. Now what happens after this is
- 4:40what happens. But today on the January 2026,
- 4:45the commanders won and that's all that matters.
- 4:47The score the the stats don't say when, but with backs playing
- 4:52against backups it says when. So leave it alone and I'm in my
- 4:57truck and I'm driving my little tail back down 95 S.
- 5:03Boom. Amen, man, Amen.
- 5:04And it's just they kept talking about, well, we're we're playing
- 5:08our backups. We're playing our backups like,
- 5:10and I don't expect them to know how many starters we're missing
- 5:13or that we've missed this entire season, right?
- 5:15I mean, yes, Terry was out there and made him look foolish.
- 5:19Debo was out there and made him look foolish, but we were
- 5:22missing three stars on our offensive line.
- 5:24We're on our third quarterback, who, by the way, hadn't actually
- 5:27thrown a touchdown pass since 2021.
- 5:31They allowed for the people in the back here.
- 5:34Since 2021 this young man had been in the XFL, the UFL, the
- 5:40AAF. Like what the hell is the AAFI?
- 5:42Have no idea, but Josh Johnson being 39 years old ran and beat
- 5:48you guys right and it just goes to show that if you would have
- 5:52had the injuries that we had this season, would you be where
- 5:56you are? I don't think so because with
- 5:59your backups, our backups, I don't want to spank you, but
- 6:02definitely put up a good fight, right.
- 6:04And man, it, it reminds me of that eight Mile when Eminem, you
- 6:10know, and the rap battling back and forth and you always want to
- 6:13go second so you can just retaliate to what the guy going
- 6:18against you has to say. Well, he decided to go first
- 6:22because he knew everything that whatever the Hell's guy's name
- 6:26was going to say against him so that it left him speechless when
- 6:29it was his turn. We knew before this was going to
- 6:32happen that the Eagles fans would Oh, well, we're sitting on
- 6:35players. We know we don't need to play
- 6:37you guys, blah, blah, blah. It's all about the play offs.
- 6:40Meanwhile, the Lions actually beat the Bears.
- 6:45And because of that, that meant if the Eagles won, they would
- 6:49have got the second seed. They would be playing the Green
- 6:53Bay Packers, not the 49ers, but the Green Bay Packers who have a
- 6:57quarterback that is banged up to high hell right now, and Jordan
- 7:00Love, and not the 49ers, who are firing on, you know, decent
- 7:05amount of cylinders over there. They don't have Fred and Lorner
- 7:07back yet. But I'm telling you from a
- 7:09matching perspective, most people want to play the Packers
- 7:13versus Niners and to also potentially host another playoff
- 7:16game. You can't tell me that Siriani
- 7:20didn't want to win that game. I just think that he was
- 7:23overlooking us and didn't realize that a 39 year old was
- 7:26going to come in there and go B to A and get his first touchdown
- 7:30since 2021. Amazing, simply amazing.
- 7:35And you said he looked past us, but there is something that we
- 7:41said that on on one aspect, because I was I was talking to
- 7:46some Eagles fans who were down the earth hands and like, man, I
- 7:52can't believe we didn't play our starters.
- 7:54And I said, well, let me add this technically for you guys,
- 7:58technically it's kind of a meaningless game.
- 8:00Yes, you will get succeed, home field advantage, all that type
- 8:03stuff. The fact is you're in the
- 8:05playoffs and whoever you got to play, you got to play.
- 8:08But would you rather have Jalen and I don't wish injury won, but
- 8:12would you rather have roll out and somebody tears freaking
- 8:16meniscus or an Achilles or AC or have you would you really want
- 8:20that on this type of game? And they and they thought they
- 8:24said, no, I wouldn't want that to happen.
- 8:27And I said that's why you guys are playing your backs, man.
- 8:30Appreciate what that is trying to do.
- 8:33Now whether it succeeds or not is a different story, but I can
- 8:37really appreciate what city is trying to do, man, because they
- 8:41they go on to visiting teams and put B to AM.
- 8:46Obviously we did it last year with Tampa and Detroit, so it
- 8:52shouldn't be wherever you are, whatever stadium, you got to
- 8:55play the game and just because you get home does not guarantee
- 8:59you a win. It just didn't.
- 9:01So on that aspect, I appreciate what Ronnie was saying.
- 9:05On the other aspect, I don't care what he said, we got the
- 9:09doubt. We that's all that matters.
- 9:12We got the doubt. Hey, man, man, hey, man, I mean
- 9:16eagles Twitter, whatever reason, just I didn't I can post
- 9:21something about like the full moon out and they just feel like
- 9:25chiming in, right. It reminds me of any time the
- 9:28commanders would post something, all you would see or you know,
- 9:32the Redskins at that point, all you would see is fire Bruce
- 9:35Allen, you know, sell the team, Dan Snyder.
- 9:38It's just like constant back and forth.
- 9:40So the one phrase I forgot to mute was go birds.
- 9:44So luckily you know I added that one to the list this weekend.
- 9:47So now I no longer see pretty much any of their stuff other
- 9:49than the people that just send me memes.
- 9:52I can't block just random memes from people posting out there,
- 9:55but it is nice to know that their offense is still having
- 10:00problems. They're going into the
- 10:02postseason with those questions. I am curious to see what Hard
- 10:06Knocks is going to say this week leading into it because I feel
- 10:09like Hard Knocks has been on the Eagles jock considering they are
- 10:13the only team going into the post season.
- 10:15But hats off to you. I did see some other burgundy
- 10:18and gold in the stands and I actually didn't see you on TV,
- 10:23but just know that there were some other in the fan base that
- 10:26were up there and that were representing.
- 10:28It was just it was an awesome sight to see.
- 10:31And I know that you guys got to go home with the dub just I'm
- 10:35sure made that drive down 95 and walking out of that horrible
- 10:38place just that much better. Because I remember walking out
- 10:42of there and you grabbing me from behind and me trying to
- 10:46swing on you all right, when we were leaving there after the NFC
- 10:49Championship game. But I'm guessing you're out.
- 10:52Your experience probably wasn't as hectic as the one you know we
- 10:55had last year up there because the stakes just weren't as high.
- 10:58Don't get me wrong, as I said earlier, there were people who
- 11:00were trying, they were trying to talk cash.
- 11:03And I said, OK, yeah, whatever, whatever, just it doesn't
- 11:10matter. Just whatever.
- 11:11So man, you know, they they tried, but they didn't succeed.
- 11:21Nah, it is what it is and I'm going to be a massive 49ers fan.
- 11:25Actually maybe want to get a Trent Williams jersey if I can
- 11:28get it rushed to the house for this weekend because I'm pulling
- 11:31for them to take B to A and go from there.
- 11:35But for the Commanders, fans of Washington fans that are pissed
- 11:40dropping from the fifth seed to the 7th seeds in the draft, like
- 11:44I, I get it right. There's a lot of questions going
- 11:48in, but we don't have that many picks.
- 11:51From a trade value perspective, there is not a huge difference
- 11:56going from the 5th to the 7th. And who knows what's going to
- 12:00happen in the draft, You know, All I know is we're recording
- 12:04this. It's Monday evening, ish.
- 12:07Kingsbury, not Kingsbury. Peters and DQ are set to speak.
- 12:11We're not going to get a chance to talk about that this week,
- 12:13but we'll cut some clips and make sure we react to it for the
- 12:15next show. And now Peters doesn't go to
- 12:18work, right? He knows where he is going to be
- 12:21in the draft. He knows where we're picking
- 12:23what's going on. We have 30, 30 free agents,
- 12:28right? 30 plus heading into this
- 12:31offseason, and I'd have people just sending me.
- 12:33Oh, well, the Commanders have 90 million in projected cap.
- 12:37Yeah, we got 90 million in cap space.
- 12:39But a roster is 53 people. Half of your roster are
- 12:44unrestricted free agents, right? So just keep that part in mind.
- 12:48So I don't know if we're keeping a bunch of these guys like, OK,
- 12:52Josh Johnson, free agent Mariota, free agent Austin
- 12:55Ecklers, Jeremy Mcnichols, Chris Rodriguez, all free agents,
- 13:00right? Debo, free agent Noah Brown, we
- 13:04know he's not coming back. Free agent Traylon Burks, free
- 13:06agent Robbie chosen, right? Odds are Robbie ain't going to
- 13:09be here. Zach Ertz question, is he going
- 13:12to come back? Who knows?
- 13:13Chris Paul played a heck of a season.
- 13:15Free agent Andrew Wiley, then a good backup, right?
- 13:19Trent Scott, good backup. Bobby Wagner, right?
- 13:22Eddie Goldman, Von Miller, right.
- 13:24These are just a couple of the names.
- 13:26So yeah, there's 90 million in cap space.
- 13:29But the part that is starting to, I don't want to say
- 13:32frustrate me, but the part I'm starting to get concerned about
- 13:34is you're trying to build a team and half of your team is
- 13:40potentially turning over year to year, right?
- 13:43So the core that you're trying to build around hasn't been able
- 13:47to been solidified at all. And we're going into year 3 and
- 13:52the clip we put up talking about how the sins of Rivera and the
- 13:57past and this and that, like it kind of went crazy again.
- 14:01And people saying, oh, how can you blame Ron?
- 14:03He was hired by Snyder. Ron had full control, right?
- 14:07Snyder brought him in here, but Ron bought the ingredients and
- 14:11cooked a meal. All right?
- 14:12So Dan had nothing to do with any of that.
- 14:15And because we don't have that cupboard full of good
- 14:18ingredients, we're just constantly turning people over,
- 14:22and that's what has me really worried heading into this
- 14:24offseason. Well, let's not forget Ron
- 14:27Rivera said. The only way I'm coming to you
- 14:31guys is it have full control. I want to be the general manager
- 14:37as well as the head coach. You, you, everybody represents.
- 14:42So when you only have in the kitchen and the food doesn't
- 14:47taste good on that shift. And so like you said, we got to
- 14:53deal with it, which also brings us up to where we are right now.
- 14:59It's going to be very difficult to try to keep up with the
- 15:03Eagles, if you will, for the 49ers because those guys have
- 15:09had years upon years upon years of creating death and also
- 15:17picking great players and all and paying their players.
- 15:24So we've got like Smokey and the Bandit, a lot of work to do in a
- 15:31short time. And I don't know if it's going
- 15:36to all get done in in seven months.
- 15:40I just don't I don't, I don't think it's going to get done in
- 15:42seven months or actually 6 actually take five months.
- 15:46I don't think it's going to get done five months.
- 15:49But and you're a fan. We have a huge Burgundy and gold
- 15:54fan base. So we've got to really as as I
- 15:59say, we get simmer down a little bit.
- 16:01I don't want to I want I'll go balls to the wall 100%.
- 16:05But I realized, hey, you know what, that's not going to happen
- 16:10unless I can just go into his back tricks and just pull all
- 16:15kinds of rabbits out of the hat. Do it.
- 16:20We're going to see. And and let's also not forget
- 16:24that we've got coaches who are not going to be here.
- 16:29So what do you do with that? We've got a lot to work on.
- 16:34Speaking of which, did you hear about the Diana Rossini report
- 16:38that came out on Saturday? No, I didn't hear about what
- 16:42what what happened with Diane. So for those that don't know,
- 16:46Diana Rossini was a reporter here on NBC4 and then she got
- 16:51caught up to the big leagues at ESPN.
- 16:53She actually is a senior insider with The Athletic now.
- 16:57She actually came out with this and this is a quote.
- 17:00Washington has also had conversations about potentially
- 17:03moving on from Kingsbury even if he doesn't get a head coaching
- 17:07job. Some of the buildings say
- 17:09there's been a disconnect between Kingsbury and general
- 17:12manager Adam Peters. When was the last time we were
- 17:15watching to see if an offensive coordinator was going to get
- 17:18fired while he was also preparing for head coaching
- 17:21interviews? We'll see how this shakes out.
- 17:23The Commanders likely won't make any final decisions until they
- 17:26see how the broader coaching market develops.
- 17:30So I was kind of surprised because they have done a damn
- 17:33good job of not letting anything leak outside the building.
- 17:38But some people in the building told this to Rossini.
- 17:42And I also thought it was kind of weird because since when does
- 17:45the GM and the OC talk to each other, right?
- 17:50And you and I have talked about it during the season.
- 17:53I felt the DQ was too lackadaisical with his generals.
- 17:58I felt that he gave Joe Witt too much leeway.
- 18:02And then he did the same thing with Cliff.
- 18:05But now you're hearing that there's potentially, you know,
- 18:09some unhappy people inside the building at the Big Bear AI, you
- 18:13know, center out there. And I was actually kind of
- 18:16shocked that this came out the night before the last game of
- 18:19the season. What do you think when you hear
- 18:21this? There's smoke in the city and
- 18:26when there's smoke there is fire or someone will get fired.
- 18:32I don't want to see anybody get fired, but let's face it, when
- 18:38when you you have a lot of Brent situations, if you will, where
- 18:46with fans said it's third and one on the goal line.
- 18:54You're in shotgun or you want to do this loop the duty fancy play
- 19:01instead of instead of, you know, Moyimano and and we did we it
- 19:06was a very low percentage play online.
- 19:11And I'm saying everybody was saying this isn't anything new.
- 19:15Why it's not in that play. Come on, man.
- 19:19And I think that that resonated upstairs.
- 19:25Let me see. You're right there and you're
- 19:29selling for a goal or you or you didn't make it.
- 19:33No man. And part of those games, well, I
- 19:37should say a lot of them, but some of those games, as I said,
- 19:42you know, you're on the golden line.
- 19:44Here you are and shotgun and European inches or third inches
- 19:49or whatever have you. So I can tell you this, if
- 19:56they're looking doing this, you better do it soon then later
- 20:02because you know as well as I, I, I, I'm going to harm this in
- 20:05the offseason. We got five months.
- 20:09You want, as you said, the generals to be in place.
- 20:13You want to get them in place because they're going to want
- 20:16their personnel, they're going to want their schemes.
- 20:19There's so much to do in such a short period of time and you get
- 20:23tired of saying that. But that is where we are right
- 20:27now. We don't have our time to to to
- 20:30plow. So the NFL new league year
- 20:33starts in mid March, right? That's when everything's going
- 20:36to open up. I mean, you're going to want to
- 20:38have have your coaches in place before then so you can figure
- 20:41out who you want to go after and free agency, what you want to do
- 20:45on the draft if there's a lot of things that have to happen.
- 20:48And I actually, I thought it was kind of funny because today was
- 20:52locker clean out day and the report came out Saturday.
- 20:57Jaden's mom actually put a tweet out there and I'll show that up
- 21:02here in a minute. Jaden and all the other
- 21:05quarterbacks got asked about Cliff.
- 21:07So this was actually Jaden sharing his thoughts on
- 21:10Kingsbury. I think there's been a lot of
- 21:12talk about Cliff, his future here with the head coaching job
- 21:15or whatever would have been your thoughts on him as a coordinator
- 21:18and just, you know, in the offense.
- 21:20I mean, I love working with Cliff, you know, me and he'll
- 21:23have a special relationship. You know, we kind of built that
- 21:26over these past two years. And, you know, I kind of just
- 21:30wish I was out there more to to play for him this past year.
- 21:34So I mean, that's kind of the focus for me in this offseason.
- 21:37I was just rebuilding myself from the ground up and hopefully
- 21:41go out there and that's the most important thing to be available
- 21:43for my team. I don't expect Jaden to say
- 21:48anything other than that about Cliff, right?
- 21:50Who are you going to? What are you going to expect him
- 21:52to actually come out with and say?
- 21:54And I understand that, you know, Kime's asking the question, but
- 21:57realistically, he's not going to go out there and bash the guy.
- 21:59Even if he had a problem with him, he's not going to go out
- 22:01there and bash the guy. I mean, kudos to the reporters.
- 22:07It's your job to ask questions. It's your job to elicit
- 22:11responses like you, Ted, what are you expecting to say?
- 22:16Or there are plenty of times when I thought that I should
- 22:18have been underneath the center versus playing shotgun or he's
- 22:22not going to say it. He Jaden's a smart individual to
- 22:25know you. You say the right answer and but
- 22:29you understand the chips are going to fall where they fall as
- 22:32far as the OC is concerned. And I don't doubt that that
- 22:35they, he didn't have a good relationship.
- 22:37I don't doubt that. So I don't think he's lying, you
- 22:40know? I mean, he's there so early in
- 22:42the morning. They're, you know, in the bubble
- 22:45at 5:00 in the morning, running through plays and doing all this
- 22:47stuff, right. I did think it was funny,
- 22:49though, when Jaden's mom put this tweet out starting 2026 on
- 22:55the right foot. And it's from the Commanders.
- 22:57And it's basically, you know, them putting the picture of Josh
- 23:00Johnson beating the Eagles for, you know, 24 to 17.
- 23:03And she quote tweeted it heading in the right direction.
- 23:07Let's go officially loading JD 5/KK Season 3.
- 23:15So the fact that she added Kingsbury to that tweet kind of
- 23:20cracks me up a little bit because what offensive
- 23:24coordinator would you really think to stick inside there,
- 23:28right? You don't want to put Jayden and
- 23:29DQ right? You, I mean, it's just, I
- 23:33thought it was kind of weird to add the KK part to her tweet
- 23:37that you put out there. What do you think?
- 23:40It it just brings it all home at the end of the day.
- 23:45I don't think that she has much say, but like JD, she has to be
- 23:53politically correct as well. You don't want to tip your hat
- 23:57if she knows something. You don't ever want to tip your
- 23:59hat to the public because they'll run with it.
- 24:03Similar to what we're doing right now.
- 24:05We're, we're trying to figure out what she's saying.
- 24:08But hey, I would say the exact same thing as far as Mr. Klaus,
- 24:15we'll see you next year or, or you know anybody.
- 24:19You know, I'm thinking cuz he's our, he's our president and we
- 24:21just had a president change. But Mr. Klaus, we'll see you
- 24:24next year or, you know, so and so we'll see you next year.
- 24:27When do I really know that I'm going to see him next year?
- 24:30I I don't know, but that's what I would do to just solidify my
- 24:34post. I would have put JD 5 and 17,
- 24:37right. You know, Terry's going to be
- 24:38here next year, OK. I mean, you know, to me that
- 24:41that makes more sense, right? To, you know, have that 5 and 17
- 24:45connection. I think Travis Kelsey and
- 24:48Patrick Mahomes have that restaurant, like whatever the
- 24:51hell it is. It's their numbers combined like
- 24:531587 or something like that in Kansas City that's supposed to
- 24:56be phenomenal. Like, you know, to put like 5
- 24:58and 17 Season 3, you know, let's go officially.
- 25:01Loading. I just thought it was kind of
- 25:02odd because people have been concerned about Kingsbury
- 25:05leaving since last year, getting potential head coaching jobs and
- 25:09opportunities because the office did so well.
- 25:12Now this year, you've got some that want him gone.
- 25:15And I am, I'm going to say I'm one of those fans that will be
- 25:19OK if Kingsbury leaves, if he sticks around, great.
- 25:23If he's gone, great. I'm not going to cry one way or
- 25:26the other. I do think that his offense at
- 25:29times, like you had mentioned, tries to get a little cute.
- 25:32I mean, I was pissed with a tackle eligible throw he did to
- 25:36Coleman when we were on our eight game losing streak, right?
- 25:39I get so angry and frustrated when he calls random Wildcat
- 25:42plays out of nowhere trying to have Traylon Burks throw the
- 25:45ball right. And, you know, the flea flicker
- 25:49yesterday I think was actually a good call and a good play design
- 25:52other than Bill, you know, didn't get the ball back to
- 25:54Johnson during it. But it turns out that Kingsbury
- 26:00does have some suitors. This is X from Jordan Schultz
- 26:03today. The expectation is that the
- 26:06Titans, Giants and other teams with openings will request to
- 26:09interview Commanders OC Cliff Kingsbury for their head
- 26:12coaching jobs, per sources. One of the league's top QB
- 26:16developers, Kingsbury has worked with Jaden Daniels and Carla
- 26:18Murray in their Offensive Rookie of the Year seasons and with
- 26:21Patrick Mahomes at Texas Tech. So I don't know if he's going to
- 26:26be here for me, I I feel that Jayden needs to be in an offense
- 26:32more where he's used as a pocket passer because we have all said
- 26:37the young man has an arm and he can throw his legs.
- 26:41Just give him that special ability.
- 26:43I just feel that this offense relies on the legs too much and
- 26:47that if he were in a, a Shanahan style offense, a different type
- 26:51of offense in Kingsbury, not a, you know, air raid offense, that
- 26:56it's better for him long term. And let's start that long term
- 27:01process now, not years from now. Well, the thing.
- 27:08So let's let's rewind last year. Why shouldn't say last year this
- 27:12time, but last year, if you will?
- 27:15No, how about this earlier this year?
- 27:19No, it's 2026. So last year, my apologies.
- 27:22Last year this around this time we were in the playoffs.
- 27:26But one thing that we heard was Cliff, are you thinking about
- 27:31going anywhere else? And what did you hear?
- 27:33You heard a resounding no, I'm staying here.
- 27:36I'm this is where I want to be. You don't hear that now.
- 27:41You don't hear it. So, so that that could be
- 27:44writing on the wall if if we want to look at the tea leaves,
- 27:46you know, last year it was a resounding no, I'm not going
- 27:50anywhere. This is Washington where I want
- 27:52to be, you know? Yeah, other people have said
- 27:54they want to reach out to me. But no, I don't want this year.
- 27:57Hey, people reaching out to you, you haven't heard a word.
- 28:01So maybe he's trying to get his mind in order or maybe he's
- 28:03trying to maybe he has a meeting with the the top brass to to put
- 28:10him on the carpet to say, if we bring you back, why are you
- 28:14going to run this offense? We need to understand more.
- 28:19We don't know, but it's it's quite interesting.
- 28:22Like you said though, it's something to think about.
- 28:25Yeah, I know that there are some that just want him here because
- 28:28he wants to, you know, keep the offensive continuity.
- 28:33And odds are, if Kingsbury's gone, then Mariota's gone.
- 28:36This is actually Marcus talking about Cliff.
- 28:39I think so much if Cliff. He's a very good coach,
- 28:42unbelievable with the quarterbacks, but like an even
- 28:45better person. And when you're able to play for
- 28:47somebody that you truly like, believe in and trust, I think
- 28:50that's why I end up playing my best, so I'm biased.
- 28:53I think so highly of Cliff and we'll see what lays out for him.
- 28:56I would love to see him get another shot at it.
- 28:59But the end of the day, what I was able to accomplish here was
- 29:02a lot of hard work from a lot of different guys, and we had a
- 29:04bunch of guys that were kind of in and out of the lineup.
- 29:07It's a cred to the staff of getting these guys prepared.
- 29:11Mariota is a Kingsbury disciple, right?
- 29:14He goes where Cliff goes, right? That's his offense that he likes
- 29:17to run. And I'm on record saying last
- 29:20week that if Marcus is going to get paid $15 million as a
- 29:24backup, I'm good with him leaving, right?
- 29:27I don't know if I want to pay him 15,000,000.
- 29:30Not saying that Josh Johnson is the answer, but the young man's
- 29:3339 years old right and just beat the Eagles and actually has the
- 29:39same amount of wins as a starter this season as Marcus Mariota.
- 29:45Let that settle in all. Right.
- 29:48Mario was one and five as a starter.
- 29:52Johnson's one and one, right? And you can only play who's in
- 29:55front of you at that point. All I'm saying is Marcus did not
- 29:59light the world on fire for me and neither did Johnson and I
- 30:03just We have 90 million in cap space but over 30 free agents.
- 30:08Spending 15 of that on Mariota just bothers me.
- 30:12And if it's close system that he's really I guess why he is
- 30:16the best that he is. And if Cliff ain't here, then I
- 30:19don't see 8 coming back either, which I'm fine with too.
- 30:23Very interesting point. I didn't know that they were
- 30:26that married to each other, but OK.
- 30:30And also, what is he going to? He's not going to badmouth.
- 30:34I don't he's not going to badmouth the coach either.
- 30:36I don't see anyone that's going to badmouth any person on the
- 30:42staff simply because A, you don't know if you're going to be
- 30:48back. B, the new coach that you may go
- 30:51work for May may say, well Dang, that's what he said against his
- 30:55ladder coach. I don't know if I want to bring
- 30:58him on board because he can't keep his mouth closed or
- 31:01whatever. Have you, you know, so it's it's
- 31:04a lose lose if you if you speak out.
- 31:07The best thing is just keep it medium.
- 31:11Like I like my steak. I'm a medium rare guy.
- 31:15Did you get your victory steak yet?
- 31:16Cheese steak. I have not OK, well, I had two
- 31:19cheese steaks, but no, I I didn't have my steak yet.
- 31:23And and I do like my steak. I do like my steak medium rare
- 31:26but a lot of times it's it's medium though Ted for me.
- 31:29I hear you, I hear you. And it's just a lot of these,
- 31:33some of these guys, I won't say a lot of these guys, they get
- 31:35media training right there, whether it's their agent getting
- 31:39them training or the team is getting them training.
- 31:42Everyone knew it was locker clean out day. 9:00 AM today was
- 31:46locker clean out day. So I am sure that at some point
- 31:49in time someone had to tell the players, whether it was the PR
- 31:52staff or the coaches, there's going to be reporters.
- 31:55Like the reporters were in the locker room.
- 31:57It was kind of weird because some people were just like
- 32:00videotaping guys, like just recording guys.
- 32:02I almost felt like they had their meta glasses on and they
- 32:05just left them on and we're just watching people just, you know,
- 32:09take their helmets out, their lockers or pictures of the
- 32:11family out their lockers. Didn't actually talk to the
- 32:13guys. They were just stalking them
- 32:14from afar. And I feel like the guys had to
- 32:17know that this was going to happen today.
- 32:18So just make sure you don't say anything stupid.
- 32:21I'm sure that they probably were coaching them on the way on the
- 32:24plane back, the plane ride back from Philadelphia.
- 32:28You know, I it, it's no different than when people asked
- 32:33to go on your on a show and you say, all right, what's the Q&A?
- 32:37Give me, give me, let me know what my topics are.
- 32:39Don't blind side me. You know, so that's it's, it's
- 32:42similar. Yeah, I I wish when I go on Fox,
- 32:45they don't give me the topics. So I'm just literally sitting
- 32:48there at the seat of my pants the entire time.
- 32:50I'm like, all right, what's what's Chad going to ask me now?
- 32:53Like what's guy going to come up with at this point and just got
- 32:55to go from there? But no, I hear you.
- 32:57I mean, for the most part, you usually get those topics ahead
- 33:00of time. So in these scrums on locker
- 33:02clean up day, you don't. So it's kind of interesting.
- 33:05You know, it's the first time we've really heard Jaden speak
- 33:07in a while. So to have him actually do what
- 33:10you know that that I think it was like maybe a 5 minute press
- 33:13conference out there. It was great.
- 33:15Now one thing that he was asked was what gives him the
- 33:18confidence that this season that we had this year won't happen
- 33:22again next season? This is what 5 had to say about
- 33:25it. What gives you the confidence,
- 33:28Jaden, that a season like this won't happen again next season,
- 33:32collectively as a team? I mean, every season different.
- 33:35It's a new year. Every year you got to go out and
- 33:38put insane work and you know when it started offseason,
- 33:41everybody BE00I. Mean, I was getting crap from
- 33:48people saying that, you know, next season there's there's
- 33:52promise there, there's still hope, right?
- 33:55And some, you know, they just, there's just always negative
- 33:58people online. They said, how can you be
- 34:00excited about next season with this roster and blah, blah,
- 34:03blah, blah, blah. I'm like, you know, just, I
- 34:05don't bother replying to all the negative nancies out there.
- 34:08Life's just too short to live in that.
- 34:11And I, I am excited. I didn't, I've been asked this
- 34:15multiple times. What's the worst season you can
- 34:18remember as a fan? And to me, it was 2013, right?
- 34:24Even though this season we've only won five games, some people
- 34:27are saying that this was their worst season they can remember
- 34:31as being a fan of this team. And their answer, and this was
- 34:34actually Lurch from the Sports junk.
- 34:36He's asking me this when I saw him during their holiday show
- 34:39saying, man, I this season to me, and he's not a fan of our
- 34:42team. You know, he's a Niners fan.
- 34:44He's saying because the expectations were so high that
- 34:48this is the worst season for him that he can think of personally,
- 34:52because we were supposed to be in the playoffs and back there.
- 34:56But from my perspective, it's not because we have a
- 35:00quarterback. And I have those out there that
- 35:03are mocking me, saying, well, how do you know that Jaden's a
- 35:05right quarterback? Because the young man played 20
- 35:08games last year and did what he did right.
- 35:11And I know that he's going to be able to do that again, even if
- 35:15his coordinator changes, because if Cliff is gone, all I know is
- 35:18Jada will put the work in with his goggles and dive into that
- 35:22playbook, whatever it may be, from whoever comes in as OC, and
- 35:27memorize the hell out of it. Also, this is just going into
- 35:31his third year, so he's maturing and he understands that.
- 35:39You know what? I necessarily can't put my body
- 35:44on the line the way that I did in some of these situations.
- 35:49Not saying that he didn't want to win, but you're the
- 35:52quarterback. You got to think a little bit
- 35:54smarter. You know, I may practice sliding
- 35:58in the offseason. I may practice doing some other
- 36:01things in the offseason, realizing where his where his
- 36:05game may have been weak to make it stronger than offseason.
- 36:09And, and, and truthfully, that's what the offseason is all about,
- 36:12realizing where your deficiencies lie and making them
- 36:16stronger so that you can be a part of the team for the long
- 36:21haul. You know, it was it was great
- 36:24seeing the young man his rookie year do what he did.
- 36:27And no one can change that his sophomore year.
- 36:30You're saying maybe we don't want you to do that as much His
- 36:35his his third year. We're going to see that.
- 36:40I believe we're going to see a smarter, smarter JD 5I.
- 36:46I believe that. Yeah, I don't think he's going
- 36:48to put himself in harm's way like he did this year.
- 36:51I just, I think, and he said it himself, you know, the best
- 36:54ability is availability, right? And he wasn't available.
- 36:58He let his team down to a degree, right, because of some
- 37:02of the choices he made on that field.
- 37:04And there were repercussions where he wasn't able to go back
- 37:06out there and be there for his brothers, right?
- 37:10They talk about the brotherhood. Did you see the post game with
- 37:13the game ball and who they gave it to?
- 37:16No, I didn't. I was.
- 37:17I was driving so I didn't see it.
- 37:20So hear it from DQ, This is who got the game ball yesterday.
- 37:24Hey, before the game, Jake said. The Brotherhood game and the
- 37:26start in 2026, man, that was cool battling for one another.
- 37:31Like there's only one game ball to go out tonight and I brought
- 37:34one of the old heads in. So Fletch.
- 37:37All right, man. Hey, listen.
- 37:39And the history of the National Football League has been played
- 37:42over 100 years. There have been three players to
- 37:46clip the 2000 tackle mark only only three players.
- 37:51So Ray Lewis, myself, and today, Bobby Wagner.
- 38:12Thank you guys. I appreciate you man.
- 38:13Ever since I got out here, man, the love of the game, you guys
- 38:16helped bring that back to me. And you know, I know we've had
- 38:20some up and down, but I would never want to go ups and downs
- 38:23with this group. This group is special.
- 38:25It means something to me. It's something I'll always
- 38:27remember. I'm so grateful for you guys and
- 38:29let's keep pushing. It tell you about it.
- 38:41I mean, they played for each other yesterday, right?
- 38:45We talked about finishing with Pride in a prior episode, right?
- 38:49They played to, you know, Von Miller got that one sack.
- 38:53Guess how much money he made off that one sack?
- 38:56How much? $500,000 off that one sack.
- 39:00He needed to hit his incentive right.
- 39:02Debo was out there, had a couple incentives on the table, didn't
- 39:06get him I think because he got passed, interfered with a bunch.
- 39:10But guys wanted to have Bobby break that record and people
- 39:15were trying to talk to him about you going to be back next year,
- 39:17this and that. He's just trying to live in the
- 39:19moment. I mean, one thing is DQ has not
- 39:22lost his locker room, all right? To me, that is very apparent
- 39:26from the outside looking in and I I look at all the content
- 39:30that's out there, whether it's put out by the team or the
- 39:33different beat reporters and everybody else.
- 39:35He has not lost that locker room and we were we were bad before
- 39:40he got here and they were able to turn it around.
- 39:43He got asked what gives him the confidence that that could
- 39:47happen again, and this is what DQ had to say.
- 39:50You stood at this lectern at the end of the season in two very
- 39:54different seasons, Yes, does that.
- 39:57Give you hope that. Flipped around one year, is it
- 40:00doable to flip around in in a single off season again?
- 40:04Yeah, I'm not there yet, like reflectively, but I've got high
- 40:08hopes because of the locker room to see so many different pieces
- 40:13in. But over the last four weeks,
- 40:15the battle, the fight remain the same.
- 40:18By no means was it clean or turnovers or tackling or any
- 40:21things that I like. But if you have your attitude
- 40:23right and they want to fight for one another, I think that that
- 40:26alone is a standard that you have to have to build a
- 40:29championship program. And no one likes the roller
- 40:33coaster of year up to year down. But seeing that kind of fight
- 40:37for the guys that were able to do that tonight, that's a big
- 40:39deal to me. That's another reason why I am
- 40:44excited about next season because we have we have watched
- 40:48teams that have had four win seasons, three win seasons, 5
- 40:52win seasons, give up on their coach.
- 40:54But I remember watching, you know, Jay Gruden's tenure here,
- 40:59right? Watching N Turner's tenure here,
- 41:01watching Rivera's tenure here and those teams just gave up on
- 41:06them. There's a reason why those
- 41:07coaches were fired. In today's Black Monday, Rivera,
- 41:12not Rivera D QS name, is not on the hot seat.
- 41:15He is not going to be let go. He is going to be here and for
- 41:19those fans out there that don't want that to happen, I'm sorry
- 41:23for you. He's our coach now.
- 41:25Next season, if they've got the same record and it goes horribly
- 41:30wrong again, then OK, right, the seats going to be super hot or
- 41:34might be completely melted at that point.
- 41:36But I'm excited because the players don't want to play for
- 41:39him. And the ones that are not free
- 41:41agents are that base that they're trying to build, still
- 41:45want to fight and players want to come here.
- 41:48In the past, they just want to come here to get paid now.
- 41:51They want to come here because of who our coach is, who our
- 41:53quarterback is and because of the potential that we have.
- 41:57And the new resounding culture that's out there that they, the,
- 42:01the players on the outside didn't want to come here because
- 42:04of facilities, food, everything that's off the field, if you
- 42:09will, or that deals with the, the football aspect of things.
- 42:13Now they're hearing, no, those guys spent money on the locker
- 42:18room. They spent money on on food,
- 42:21they spent money on training. They spent money on all the
- 42:23things that players need to be able to succeed.
- 42:26So, So yes. And and it doesn't, it doesn't
- 42:29help that you've got a great quarterback and a coach who
- 42:32believes in who's a players type of coach.
- 42:35So yeah, man, they, they want to come here.
- 42:38They, they see that it's not the old Redskins, if you will.
- 42:43This, this, this is a new regime who believes in treating their
- 42:48players the way that they're supposed to be treated.
- 42:51Yeah, and I mean, the NFLPA comes out with that report card
- 42:55each year, right? And the Commanders made huge
- 42:58strides. But I think Josh Harris was
- 43:01quoted saying I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not an F minus guy,
- 43:05right? And the very next year they
- 43:07improved on a ton of that stuff. And I'm curious to see what the
- 43:10grades are going to come back this year.
- 43:12But all I do know is who are going to play next season right
- 43:17now that the season's over with the schedule's not out, but who
- 43:22we play is out. So coming to DC, we got
- 43:27obviously the NFC East. Not going to waste my time
- 43:29saying their name. The Rams are coming to town, the
- 43:32Seahawks are coming to town, the Falcons, the Texans, the Colts,
- 43:38and the Bengals. So Seattle's no joke, the Rams
- 43:43are no joke, Houston's no joke, and Daniel Jones had the Colts
- 43:47moving till he got hurt. And Joe Burrow healthy is still
- 43:53a bad ass. So that that is five teams on
- 43:57there that are going to be some tough opponents next year.
- 44:00Now, from a road perspective, I'm curious and you've been to
- 44:06all these stadiums, which of these are you most looking
- 44:11forward to going to for the stadium aspect and for the city
- 44:16aspect? Because you know, you often like
- 44:18to say it. It's, you know, it's about the
- 44:20entire experience and being in that town, not just the game.
- 44:25So for those that don't know, on the road, I'm not going to go
- 44:27over the east teams that we play.
- 44:29We got the Cardinals in Arizona, obviously the Niners, the
- 44:33Vikings, which you went to this year.
- 44:35And there are frozen pigeons everywhere, the Jaguars and the
- 44:40Titans. So if our listeners could only
- 44:44afford to do 1 SB events trip with you next year, not counting
- 44:48the international game, which would you recommend?
- 44:52You're going to want to come to San Francisco with SB Events.
- 44:57Why San Fran? Well, San Fran, First off, I'm
- 45:01going to have a some tours that are involved or or not involved,
- 45:06but some tours that will be company with the trip.
- 45:11Their food is good. You got an Alcatraz?
- 45:14The sightseeing is good. I can't tell you all my secrets,
- 45:17Ted. All right, I'm not going to tell
- 45:20you my secrets. But the food is good, the
- 45:22atmosphere is good, the weather normally is good, and the
- 45:28stadium has a great vibe as well as their stadium.
- 45:32Food also has whatever is on your plate, your palate, if you
- 45:38will. They have a great variety and
- 45:43itinerary of food. So I'd say San Francisco because
- 45:49I just believe that that it's going to be more bang for your
- 45:52buck to go there with SB events. Yeah, Levi Stadium's 11 years
- 45:57old. I've never actually been out
- 45:58there for a game. I've been out there for, you
- 46:01know, work and just kind of visiting the area.
- 46:04You're going to get a chance to be there in the Super Bowl,
- 46:07which I'm, you know, I can't wait to live vicariously through
- 46:10you and your pictures and everything else and seeing how
- 46:12that goes. So you get to do a little lay of
- 46:14the land. Chef Michael Mina, who's a
- 46:17friend, has a restaurant out there at the.
- 46:20Stadium. So the food experience is
- 46:22freaking top notch. But for me if I had to choose
- 46:27one Rd. game that is not the international game because I'm
- 46:30going with that regardless. Unless somehow my passport gets
- 46:33taken away, but I'll still find a way to sneak in.
- 46:35That country is Nashville, man. I I want to go to Nashville.
- 46:40I want to go to Tennessee for the Titans game.
- 46:43I was so jealous when the draft was there that year.
- 46:47Just being down there, it looked like so much fun.
- 46:50And I'm not a country music guy, but I do like Old Dominion and a
- 46:53couple bands that misses Tailgate brainwashed me to like.
- 46:58True story. When we were dating she had a
- 47:01small little apartment. It was like 500 square feet, and
- 47:05she would have her iTunes playlist just playing in the
- 47:08background. And there are times when I would
- 47:11sleep and it was still on the background, right?
- 47:14We go to a concert. It's a country band.
- 47:17And I'm only going because I'm trying to court this woman,
- 47:20right? I do not want to be at this
- 47:21country show by any means. And I'm sitting there during the
- 47:25show, and I'm tapping my feet like I'm getting into the music.
- 47:30Then I started like, I know these words was freaking
- 47:35osmosis. It was seeping into my head when
- 47:37I was sleeping and she was brainwashing me.
- 47:40So now I actually like Sugar Land, a couple of these other
- 47:42country bands. So I was hoping to head out
- 47:45there and head to the Titans game and catch one spot out
- 47:49there. On top of the fact that they're
- 47:50going to have a new head coach, their team probably is going to
- 47:52be that good and maybe we get AW.
- 47:55But that for me is the road game I want to get out to next year.
- 47:59Well, I'm here to tell you that they have a lot of boot shops
- 48:04down there and I I got I got Miss Riley, her first pair of
- 48:09boots down in Tennessee and they were a buy what they were a BOGO
- 48:13baby. So I always get a go with
- 48:15another pair of boots as long as one of pairs for you.
- 48:20I'm not going to say I'll never wear them.
- 48:23I mean if there's some burgundy and gold cause I've actually
- 48:25been trying. If you look at my search history
- 48:28I'm trying to find some commanders Air Force ones and I
- 48:31was trying to design some that came out horrible because I'm
- 48:34color blind and I Ron McDonald if I ever want to be him as a
- 48:38side gig I can wear those shoes but if they have some burgundy
- 48:42and gold cowboy boots out there then I will consider leaving
- 48:46that state with them on after I get my Nashville hot chicken.
- 48:50Well, we'll get them shipped to you, but we can work on that
- 48:53because I'm due for another pair.
- 48:56So I think I, I think I'm going to get some ostrich.
- 48:59I like ostrich and, and they, they have different brands who,
- 49:03who make them. But you know, I've seen a couple
- 49:05of that that really have caught my eye.
- 49:08So yeah, the captain will get another pair of boots shipped
- 49:11back to the DMV. There you go.
- 49:14Well, I mean, between San Fran and Tennessee and going
- 49:19overseas, man, I just, this season wasn't what we all had
- 49:24hoped, but there's some stuff to look forward to next year.
- 49:28And I just, I can't wait for things to start to get
- 49:33solidified where I, I think we'll find our international
- 49:37game where we're playing before the schedule comes out.
- 49:40Historically that has happened. They announced where they just
- 49:44don't announce when that's going to go through.
- 49:47So some of the key dates in the offseason for me as a fan,
- 49:50right, is when that drops. Obviously when the schedule
- 49:54drops, you and I are still going to be around.
- 49:56We're still going to be here. We're going to definitely catch
- 49:59up with whatever Peters has to say tonight and we'll have that
- 50:03for you all next week. But closing time for this
- 50:06season. Still got help, man.
- 50:08Just cuz we got 5 and we got a good coach, we still got hope.
- 50:12So where do you want to what? What international country do
- 50:16you want to play in next year, early or later this year?
- 50:21If I had my choice, I'd say London, just because you can use
- 50:26London as your base if you want to go to the rest of Europe.
- 50:29And I mean, I'd love to go to Germany.
- 50:31I just don't think we're going to get Germany.
- 50:34So I, I really, to me, going to Mexico City isn't going
- 50:38international. I know it is.
- 50:39I know you need a passport, but I you know I want to.
- 50:43I want the plane to fly over water for me to get there,
- 50:46right? How about your?
- 50:46OK, you know what man, I agree with you.
- 50:51I, I, I wouldn't mind London because the, the experience that
- 50:54I had in London in 2016 was just a wonderful experience.
- 50:59People still talk about it to this day.
- 51:03They they put it up there with the Madrid trip without the
- 51:06ticket fiasco, if you will. Speak English so that that
- 51:10helps. And that's another reason why I
- 51:12want London, because they're more modern, if you will, with
- 51:15their ticket process. And they've been in the game
- 51:19since when, like 2012, two, 1010.
- 51:22Yeah, it's been a while. They've been, Yeah.
- 51:24So they know how to get the tickets to be able to transfer.
- 51:28And that's something else that I brought up with Mr. Klaus before
- 51:30we get ready to go because I hear the music playing in the
- 51:32background. He's, I told him the ticket
- 51:34fiasco in Madrid and he says keep me updated with that
- 51:37because we don't need that to happen anywhere we play.
- 51:41And he goes, you weren't the only one who had that ticket
- 51:44problem. And we've talked about it and,
- 51:45and I'm not going to be a dead horse, but basically if he has
- 51:48anything to say about it, he's going to run up a chain to
- 51:51wherever we play, get that situation resolved.
- 51:55So I'm happy to hear about that. But I heard the music playing in
- 51:59the background, which lets me know that the 202526 season is
- 52:07closed and all we can do is look forward to the 26th, 27th
- 52:13season. And I can't wait to ride with
- 52:16you, Ted, as well as our fans and see where this thing goes.
- 52:22I cannot wait. That's going to do it for the
- 52:26DMV mess hall no matter what. I always tell you guys, you Rep
- 52:32it hard. You don't Rep it at all.
- 52:36Rally Captain Tailgate Ted signing off for the 2526 season
- 52:43route.