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CTK:31 - URC Shockwaves, Rugby Revolution & The Future of the Game · Cut The Kak

• Chad: well, it's got that cut the rugby show where we don't pretend that ⁓ is coming back. We don't pretend that, ULC is better than super rugby. ⁓ Don't like it's a coincidence that the box keep winning. Yeah, that was not planned. but I'm Chad. that's barred across from me. Byron: I had no idea what that was. distracted the fuck out of me. ⁓ Chad: Today we're going to talk about the Baby Box, lifted their first ever under 20 championship. Rusty has quietly nabbed off quite a few of the legends in the linemen camp. Rugby New Zealand has, I don't know what to call it, but they all tangled up in their own eligibility rules and now Mwanga can't play until October, which is going to be weird. So yeah, let's the cuck bone. Byron: Okay, guys. Let's cut the cuck, Chad. missed last week because Chad was dying of man flu. So ⁓ you made it through. ⁓ It's rough out there. ⁓ get one of those ribbons for it, survived man flu. ⁓ Chad: Same. Missing a barber. It's about the flu of 2026. Byron: Yeah, there's a lot of rugby to talk about fixtures, results and then news. Lots and lots of rugby news. So do you just want to run through some of the fixtures and results quickly over the last two weeks and then we'll jump into all of the fun stuff that's going on? ⁓ Chad: Yep, hit us with the results. I didn't watch any rugby last weekend because there was no South African teams. Byron: Correct, but we've got to go back an extra week. We'll quickly go through the URC. Cardiff, narrowly beating Ospreys, which is quite the surprise. Edinburgh, beating the Sharks. Not expected. would think we both, when we did the predictions, Sharks to was not what I was Well, I can still sense the sadness. Dragons narrowly beating Zebre in 1918. And Stormers absolutely thrashing Glasgow Warriors, 48-12, moving to top of the log. That was impressive. And then I even more impressive after that was Lions beating Connaught, which arguably one of the best teams in the competition on form at the moment was Connaught. Chad: That was a fun game. Byron: But good game, exciting game. Munster beating Ulster, didn't expect that. Narrow win for the Bulls against Scarlet's, which was a bit of a surprise. And then the shock of the weekend, I think, was Benetton beating Leinster 29-26. Like, what? Chad: Heating. That was such a good game. actually, I saw that one. I watched that one. Also was not expecting it. I turned on about halftime. was like, this is ⁓ lot closer than it should have been. Byron: Yeah, no, that was expected. I also think the Bulls got away with a forward pass at the end of the game. But we'll let the others decide that. What I did think was cool ⁓ for Marcus Muller making his ⁓ debut, Chad: Yeah, the youngest. Yeah, it's injured. from that game. Byron: I don't blame, yeah. I mean, it's pretty young. The Stormers had a fun little five meter tap play. I don't know if you saw it, the handing off to the guy in the back who was supposed to be doing the driving. I thought that was pretty smart. But even this weekend, ⁓ did you some of the five meter tap in place? There was, ⁓ who was There was one from ⁓ Moana Pacifica they did the five meter tap. Chad: Yep. What one of Pacifica? ⁓ those ones, okay. with the line out in the middle field. And it worked. Yeah. Byron: formed a line-up and it scored from it. And it also worked in the Japanese league. I didn't catch which team did it they did the same thing five meters tap and play and through and scored. Chad: Did you see on Moira and Pacifica's Instagram page they tagged S.A. Rugby and said straight out of Russie's book? Byron: Well, the commentators even said something along the lines of, look, they're trying a springbok move or some nonsense like that. Yeah. No, was super exciting. Japan, successful. They also did a five meters out and scored the tryout. One of the teams in Japan. then Moana doing it was pretty cool. ⁓ in the Begle game, Begle Bath, they scored off a five meter tap, which I'm excited because I've always wondered... Chad: Yeah. Byron: why teams weren't being more creative with it. And now we're starting to become like ⁓ a proper, proper attacking platform, the five meter tap. And I think what's gonna start happening is we're gonna start seeing five meter tap penalty plays that our second, third, fourth play ⁓ and goes. I think it's just gonna. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. 100 % agree. Byron: keep getting more and more, because the move always was if you're that far out, kick for the line out, take the line out, time all it over. But if you're not dominating the line outs, which I don't know if you've noticed lately, isn't that common for a team to go like 100 % on their own line out throws in a game anymore. Chad: Yeah, true. Haven't noticed it, but... Byron: Yeah, there's a lot of in the air competition and then just hookers being shit at throwing, which I find I just I find that crazy to be at that level you still fuck it up. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: Especially a two ball, how do you throw a two ball skew when you've thrown 50,000 of them? Chad: in one season. Byron: Exactly. Like I don't get it. Like I get you're trying to be like careful so that it's not straight down and you want it on the inside shoulder. But you can't be getting it wrong, wrong. Like I just I don't get it. But anyway, where was I? ⁓ yeah, the five meter tap in place. I think they're going to keep getting more and more creative. ⁓ They are fun to watch. And then every now and then it's just you get like ⁓ his name from? Chad: I hope so, they're fun to watch. Byron: Lansdor the number the hooker the number two Sheehan? I think Dan Sheehan? I could be mistaken if I am. Apologies. Anyway, him. For whatever reason, he always makes ground after first contact. So from five meters out, if he gets a run up, it's hard to stop someone like him. That's just the power play. Then you get all these new creative ones where you're passing off the back. Exciting. A new fun thing to look out for when watching rugby. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. I'm keen to see those tapping and tapping goes with when the spring box come. come back, which is soon, because Asanati's hands for a prop are unreal. He passes like an outside center. It's so good. Byron: And you have to commit to tackling him as well because of his size. Yeah, so you can't be like, ⁓ I might need to hop off or I'm going to tackle him high so that he doesn't offload. No. He'll eat you. Chad: Yeah, you could not. More than one. Yeah, because he doesn't, you're going ⁓ but backwards. Byron: lucky if you only go backwards. Chad: So yeah, it'll be fun to see. Cause we'll have who like, you get Marks or Ox or anyone, tap the ball. Yeah. Byron: So many names. Peter Smith coming at pace. Chad: Yeah, imagine Asunati gets it, pops it off too. Byron: Slemon, cause Slemon runs in and as he makes contact the ball magically goes over someone else's head and it's a one handed offload. Chad: It's not long now, Byron. We've only got a couple more days left until the box join come back to us and we get to Washington. What's it now? Forty six days. Byron: Yeah, anyway, full full distraction. Yeah, the Bob Arians opening game. My brother got tickets for the, I think it's Springboks England in Durban. Chad: That'll be lecker. We've got it off topic here. Completely off topic, you'll love it. Byron: Completely off topic, we were talking UIC. did ⁓ something interesting, that Benetton win over that's their first win in nine games. So they lost eight in a row to Leinster before that win. Chad: Mm-hmm. That makes sense. not really surprised by that. ⁓ Byron: Yeah, you are What means though ⁓ is the table Stormers are on top by one point. Glasgow is in second with 55. Crazy stat here. ⁓ The Lions in third with 53. Level on points with fourth place Lensster. And they play other this weekend. Chad: It's going to be a cracker, but I hope they can do it. ⁓ Byron: After watching Leinster in the Investec Champions Cup though, this weekend, I hope that they rest a ton of players or whatever it is because they looked terrifying, like better than I've seen them the whole season. Chad: I don't think that they will because if they lose a game and Monster win their game, they lose a home. Byron: and Cardiff win their game and the Bulls win their game, they can fall down to seventh. Yeah. Chad: Yeah. And then they lose that home semi. So I doubt they'll be resting place. Byron: I've got a feeling it's going to be the game of the weekend. Chad: I hope so. Byron: because there's a lot on the line. It's not secure yet for the Lions, like they're not guaranteed a spot yet if they lose the next two games. But if they can win this, then a home semi seems extremely realistic for them. Chad: God, I hope so. How lack of that be? Byron: is crazy as well is depending on how results go, the Lions could win the URC. Chad: be so stoked. Byron: Dude, it would be so epic for them, especially given you would argue ⁓ weaker team just on the number of spring bucks. ⁓ But definitely don't look like the weaker team. The way the sharks have been playing with all their stars. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Can you stop fucking bring them up mate? Byron: right, Munster in fifth, Cardiff sixth, Bulls seventh, Ulster in eighth. But again, from ninth place to third place is only nine points. Chad: That's two games. Byron: It's crazy. So then quick one, we'll get your predictions for this weekend and we'll be done with the URC. ⁓ Chad: Do it my predictions, am I doing OK? Hit me. Glasgow. Byron: Glasgow play Cardiff. Agreed. This can be a good one. Ulster versus Stormers. Chad: is away. I'll still go. I'll still go storms. Byron: Storm is away. Chad: Just I reckon. Byron: Yes, I think so too. I'd love for Verna Cog to get a try. Chad: I love it when he scores. Don't matter who he scores against. It's just such a, such a vibe. Byron: That's so good to watch. He's such a ⁓ happy rugby player. Chad: Yeah. Byron: then we got Bulls vs Zebra at Loftus. You going Bulls? Okay, thank you. Sharks Benetton in Durban. Chad: Bulls. Yeah. Bulls. Okay. I'm going to go sharks. the Benetton win, I'll, why don't even know if I want to say that out loud. Byron: Because you're gonna need to do it ⁓ should beat Benetton, you should. Chad: should. I was gonna say if Ben is in the window I'll bleach my blonde. Byron: ⁓ no, so you your support for that blues player. Chad: all did it because their player had cancer, Byron. ⁓ I thought you were giving Barrett shit for looking like... ⁓ I you were just being an asshole. Byron: blues player with cancer. Yeah that's what I said to show you support for the player. ⁓ no no no, I know why they did it! mean, both things can also be true. ⁓ Chad: This is, yeah. I just, my brain with you automatically goes bar and arsehole. Byron: Yeah, that's it. He no good intention. Just the worst of the worst. agree. Okay, so Sharks to beat Benetton. I do agree, though. Interesting game. Osprey-Scarlet. That's Osprey-Scarlet. Chad: Yeah. That'll be a good one. I reckon Osprey should win that one. Byron: I'm in agreement with you there. Game of the Weekend. Actually, the last Game the Weekend was pretty good. But anyway, Lens the Lions at the Aviva. Chad: That's a tough one. As much as my heart says lions, my brain says lindsda. Byron: We're on the same wavelength. I've got to obviously support the Lions wholeheartedly and that would be the ideal result. yeah, Lensstädt and Aviva is no joke, especially coming off that semi-final win. Yeah, ⁓ gonna be riding high, I think as well. And then we're at home for that too. So it's not like they're traveling. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, fuck this man. Edinburgh should win that one. Byron: ⁓ Then you have Dragon's Edinburgh. I'm gonna go dragons just because they made it into the semi-final of the EPCR. for funsies. And this is an important game for the top eight. Cause if Konnacht lose this, I think their ⁓ hope for a eight is kind of over. So Konnacht Monster. Chad: you I want Connacht to... Only to win. Byron: to keep that top eight thing interesting into the last round. The race for the eight, as they call it. Chad: I the only reason I want it is because I'm looking at the log here. Bulls are seventh. If they win, the Bulls would only be one. Yeah, they'll be they'll go up. Yeah, I want I want Manzana to lose. So I can't wait to win that one. That's going to be a that's going to be a cracker. I don't know who's going to win that one to be honest. Byron: Okay, see you guys then. Yeah, that's a really good game to watch. I think it's gonna be a really, really good game. right, that's the URC, ⁓ through SuperAchbi, and we'll done. Chad: Yep. Byron: Quick read through the results. Do you want to do them? Am I doing them? Chad: I can get them up. Byron: I've got a map so I'll start with last week. Crusader is beating the Waratahs. I think we predicted that one. Chad: Sick. Crusaders beating Ortoz Byron: Yeah. That was the week before. Chad: Oh, we that week. Okay. I was like... Okay, cool. Byron: Yeah this was that rugby, what's it called? Rugby, the rugby festival, Christchurch, whatever the proper name was it for? Yeah. Chad: Round 11. That was last week. The first game last week was the Hurricanes vs Crusaders. I don't know. Byron: What am I looking at then? Hold on. No, wait, no we've got to go, we missed a week because you were dying. So we've got to go back an extra week. Chad: Okay, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. Round 11. That's what I asked you. Okay, cool. Byron: Okay, yeah, round 11, the big rugby festival that was at Question for you on that. Looking at ⁓ entertaining and successful it was, do you think there's a possibility for the South African teams in the URC to do something similar for four weekends of the year? What mean by that is you have both ⁓ South African Derby games at one stadium, four times that it happens. Okay, so looking at the success of the Crusaders rugby festival. Chad: Super app. Should say it is, yeah. Byron: what was called the Super Amp? Do you think there was, you there's possibility for South African teams in the URC to do something similar for local derbies? Chad: So to have all the derbies on one weekend in one location. Yeah. Byron: So it's not as many games, but it's going to be two games. But yeah, you'd have it at Loft as the one week, then in Durban the next week, in Cape Town the next week, and in Joberg the fourth week, whenever they happen on the rugby calendar. Chad: So when I was watching the thing ⁓ out and I was following so many content creators were there doing their thing ⁓ most of them said that the only reason why it worked so well was because of where the stadium is in Christchurch. It's literally in the middle of the city. You can get to it from anywhere. There's tons of bars all that kind of stuff. All around. so my missus went there last weekend too. And was in the area literally with the Airbnb's and like stuff. And you could see the stadium like from her balcony. And she was saying that there's so much to do around there. And it's basically the heart of the city. Now that doesn't translate to Joburg. Byron: Mm-hmm. Chad: wouldn't be able to do it. Byron: Yeah, but we don't need 18 teams, was it 16 teams from the URC? It's four South African teams. So the big difference is, for yeah, so like at Ellis Park, for example, I never said it was the same. I said, because of the success, do you think there's a possibility for South African teams to do something similar? Because then you'll have, then you'd able to imagine a sold out, Chad: So one day. And then it's not the same. Byron: Ellis Park because you've got the Lions, the Bulls, the Sharks and the Stormers all playing on the same weekend and everyone gets to go watch both games. Chad: I it sounds good. just don't think it will. I don't know. I just can't see Ellis Park selling out because of it being Ellis Park. But the other stadium, yes, I can see it in the other. Byron: Yeah, but if Okay, definitely, definitely ⁓ in Durban and actually everywhere except Johannesburg really. They'd probably still have to give away tickets just to get one side full. But I think, I don't know, I think that's a, I thought it was a good idea. I think it's a nice way to get fuller stadiums and such a smart. Chad: Yeah, it's literally just Joburg. Yeah. But they actually, had it before, they had it in Melbourne. They had soup around it just wasn't that. ⁓ It incredible. had serious FOMO of not going. Byron: Yeah, I they went all out. Even the Crusaders got to do the Hakka, which I thought was pretty cool. And I almost wanted to be more common. Chad: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, how likely would it be when you've got the adobe going and these two hackers going? Byron: Well yeah, when Crusaders did it to the Warratars, two of the Kiwi players from the Warratars did it back. And I was like, who wouldn't want this every weekend? don't like, I wanted to run through a brick wall. Chad: Yep. Yeah. I don't know how good is it. Hahaha Byron: Anyway, that was just my stupid idea. Where were we? Results. ⁓ Chad: We're on the first result of two weeks ago. Byron: Hurricanes thrashed the Brumbies, did not expect that. I knew they would win, but not like that. Chad: Yeah. Byron: you look like you have something to say. Blues narrowly beating the Reds. Highlanders win over Moana. Moana did play well in the first half but it didn't translate into the second. Chiefs beating the Druer, ⁓ expected. And now we move into round 12. Hurricanes beating the Crusaders. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. with two very forward passes well two forward passes arguably three Byron: Yeah. But we were talking about it on more than one occasion, the decisions in Super Reg B this season. Chad: Yep. Byron: It's exactly what they are asking for by the rule changes though. Because if it's not serious foul play, it doesn't directly lead into the try and the referee is not asking for it. The TMO is not gonna get involved. Chad: Yeah. But forward passes. But they looked at them. The thing that annoyed me is they actually looked at them and they got two of them blindly wrong. That last one. Byron: We again, you and I spoke about this, game was it? It was earlier this season. Chad: I dunno, fuckin' every week. Byron: It's because of those massive 30 meter passes. It's hard to judge whether they're forward or not. And they're talking about just whether or not the hands are moving forward. Chad: But none of those were 30 meter zingers. of them was a pop forward like a meter and the other one was oak was on the line past it ⁓ five meters in front of the line. Byron: I just love how magical that the crusaders are not as good this season. Chad: Yeah, we're still gonna win. Byron: Are you gonna be the hurricanes? Chad: Yeah, this we reading the blues this weekend. That's for sure. Byron: of the blues, ⁓ at 15 runs some ⁓ incredible lines. Chad: Yeah, it's not bad, ⁓ He's not exactly slow either. Byron: No, no, he's a handful. Also speaking of the blues, did you see the ball hitting the Spidercam? Chad: Yeah, how fucking unlucky is that? I think the commentator had a zinger. was like, ⁓ someone's getting fired. ⁓ Byron: Yes. Also, I don't know, they restarted it where the kick was taken. I think that makes perfect sense. But what I couldn't imagine is like, ⁓ in the rule book does it tell you what to do when the ball hits the spider can? ⁓ Chad: It must be in there somewhere. Byron: I thought that was brilliant. We are distracted again thanks to you. It was the Blues though, who Superpoint two weeks in a row, wasn't it? Chad: Yeah, no, not them. Byron: It is the blues. Chad: Wasn't it the Force? Was it the Blues? No man, the Blues absolutely smashed Moana last week. Byron: No, week 11 was... No, so sorry, going back to the blues reds, that was a super point. And then you go back another week, was it blues highlanders was a super point as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Anyway, I'm going too far back. ⁓ Force narrowly beating the Tars. Did not expect that one. Chad: ⁓ yeah yeah yeah. of the chiefs in hurricanes. Which one? Byron: Warrantars losing to force 1720 Chad: ⁓ yeah, no one saw that coming. Byron: but super exciting that it happened. then we have ⁓ a Beat in the Heartlanders, which was super exciting. Almost getting a bonus points as well. Chad: felt so bad for yeah that was a I don't know what's happening with the Harlanders they're not having a fun time no Byron: Not a good season for them, you know? And they've got such incredible players in the squad, especially at 12, Jesus. Yeah, Blues Thrashing Pacifica. And then a shock for me, ⁓ Reds Brumbies. Chad: Yeah, that was such a good game, like a fun game to watch. Byron: And you know what, I noticed that earlier this season, and they've just gotten better and better and better. If you look at the Reds performance, obviously they've got stars all over the pitch, but Salaka Eloto ⁓ ⁓ and then Frazier McWright and Harry Wilson at seven and eight. Chad: Yeah, Bauhaus. Byron: absolute game changes when it comes like in terms of World Rugby like some of the best in those positions at the moment. stuff they're pulling off, game in and game out is so impressive. I want to hope for their sake I hope it translates into international as well. Chad: Mm-hmm. into that first game I mean that not that first game the game that should have been uh Australia New Zealand in the yeah can you imagine can you imagine Byron: of the Australia-New Zealand game. There's... That game has the potential to it one of the most interesting World Cups. Chad: Well, maybe next week we could talk about the Rugby World Cup because it's coming up thick and fast. Next week we... Byron: And we both have our rugby World Cup jerseys on. Look at that. French ones. Chad: Yep. Byron: I got mine there at least. Hey! But you're gonna get one in Oz and I won't be there so fuck me. Do you wanna do the predictions or am I doing them? Chad: Come on here. Yeah, Saks to be you. I did it. I just did the URC so you can do these ones. Let me quickly just get this back open. Byron: you'll see. Yeah. Chad: Okay, super rugby. You ready? Crusaders vs Blues. Byron: Yes. I'm hoping it's the blues. Chad: Okay, but you think it's Crusaders? Byron: I still think it's the blues. Chad: Okay, so you reckon the blues are going on? right. ⁓ Reds and Chiefs. Byron: Yeah. this is going to be exciting. I just talked up the Reds a lot, but it's still going to be the Chiefs. Chad: And then ⁓ ⁓ we've got the hardness first of our tires Byron: I'm thinking the TARS for that one. That would be super cool for their season. Chad: I reckon two. ⁓ Once. Yeah, I really want the Havlis to win, but I see it happening. Possible upset? Moana Pacifica versus the Hurricanes. Byron: Look, the Harlanders put 40 points on pretty much, I mean the Hurricanes put 40 points on pretty much everyone and then puts 50 plus on teams that are doing okay. I hope for Moana's sake it's under 50. Chad: you heard it here first and then last game, Brumbies versus Force. Byron: Force, not kill. Chad: Possible? Byron: Actually, the way things are going, a false win over the Brambies is not the wildest thing to think about. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, they just beat the tires. So who knows they can be coming for hard, Brumby's Byron: Yeah, but I think the Brumbies will take it. It's also, it's a home game. quickly last ones we have Lensster beating Tulong the 29-25 in the semi-final and then Bordeaux Begley beating Bath so we got Lensster Begley in the final in Bilbao Then for the EPCR, we had Montpellier beating the Dragons 18-12, which is unfortunate, the Dragons had a fairytale run. And Ulster crushing Exeter Chiefs 29-12. So you got Montpellier, Ulster, and the Fano in Bilbao. Chad: KD. Byron: It is, it has worked out pretty nicely. That's all the fixtures and results. I might have missed Women's Six Nations. Let me just check. So we're not leaving anybody out. Chad: Dead. Byron: Yeah, was the previous week, England beating Wales, Italy beating Scotland and France beating Ireland. This weekend, ⁓ play England. ⁓ we've got an England win, I think as far as things have gone. Scotland play France, probably a French win and Ireland play Wales, probably an Irish win. Quick and easy. Chad: Okay, of half an hour talking about the last two weeks of rugby because I missed a week. ⁓ Byron: All good. slow, but we ran through it. ⁓ you've got some interesting questions for me. Let's hear it. Chad: ⁓ well yeah, so where do you want to go? Do you want to go for the questions? Do we want to do there's some topics you want to quickly talk about the under 20 rugby championship that has happened? Cause that was, Byron: You know what? I've got three topics and then you can ask me anything after that. ⁓ SA rugby confirmed the 2026 Toyota challenge with Georgia, Portugal and Romania clubs being represented. Chad: Done, let's do it. Yep. That's pretty cool. No. Byron: Have you heard about this? The Toyota challenge? So it's got Georgia's Black Lions, which is pretty much the national team for those that don't play internationally. Portugal's Lusitanos, Romania A, the Toyota Cheetahs, Suzuki Chriquas, and the Air Link Pumas. Chad: ⁓ I did read about this, yeah. Byron: I think it's fun. ⁓ Chad: It is fun. I think the cheetahs are absolutely dominating that. Byron: They're doing the thing we actually kind of spoke about. They're all of the first... Chad: decisions. Byron: So there's one, two, first and second rounds of games. It as if they want to do all of the games at one stadium. Chad: Yeah, that'll be fun. the way. Byron: Long fencing. Chad: Jesus. They're trying to bore the other teams to death. Byron: Imagine you're Romanian and you're you're Googling all the cool shit to do in South Africa. then, already when you get there, you find out you're in fucking Lumpenstein. Chad: And you get to bloom. Yes, suss. Well, imagine you're like from Spain, beautiful out there rolling hills and you end up in fucking bloom. Byron: Speaking of Spain, the Spanish rugby secured a collaboration with the Spanish government, La Liga and Spanish football to put host in, ⁓ I mean put a bid in to host the Rugby World Cup. Chad: I'd go. Byron: Dude, how sick would it be to go watch rugby at like Bennebouw or like that where all of these massive football stadiums are? Chad: Yeah. That'd be so good. So fun. Byron: And also to have that Spanish flair when it comes to rugby and then just the the way the European supporters are when it comes to live sport. I think Spain would be an ⁓ destination for the rugby world. Chad: Yep. 100 % I'll be there. Byron: But off to South Africa, get it. We kind of need to run that back. We need to run that back. Chad: I learned these that I could never get it again. Yeah. Byron: But I think ⁓ a World Cup in Spain would be absolutely incredible. And then this one I thought was interesting. And then I'm done with stupid shit I found online. The British and Irish Lions looking to ⁓ their tour schedule to include France, Japan, and the US. Chad: You to play against? Why the fuck would you go play the USA? Byron: That's what all the comments on this thing were saying. Also, no offense, Japan can pull out good performances, but against the British and Irish Lions, it's not going to be competitive. I think adding France... Chad: Yeah. No. And it does, that seems like a money grab to be honest. That's all that that is. Byron: Yeah, unfortunately these days anything that includes US rugby sounds like a money grab. Chad: Or even Japan, because that's where there's so much going in there at the moment. That's yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I think even as a as a player, you want as a British Irish Lions player, want to obviously like the best of the best of the best. You want to play the best of the best. So you they come here and to South Africa and play. Where's on the World Cup, ⁓ World on the World Rankings? Byron: I think. I'll bring it up now. And men's, I have to show the full table. They don't show up. Chad: Yeah, nice. Byron: would do better to go to Italy or than any the other ones they mentioned. ⁓ You're not Look, what I could be a possibility here is as one of warm-up games, ⁓ let them play the let them play Japan. I think that works. I think France Chad: You'd be better off playing the fucking cheaters bloom. Yeah. Byron: have at least a better case to be one of the teams. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, I'm finding that makes way more sense. But then the French will do what the French do and they'll name a half-assed side. Because it's not a review of the cup. Byron: Man, the fucking Scrum half from Begley is gonna give DuPont some trouble. Gee, I get so distracted so easily. Yeah, no, Japan and the US, it wouldn't be a fun tour to watch and I would actually feel kind of bad for the British and Irish Lions players that get selected if they had to go tour the US. It would be heartbreaking. Chad: Yeah, I'd be... No, I'd be like, you just give that one a skip. like, starting me up in four more years. Byron: I think what it should be is why not play highest ranking team from the previous World Cup. That's not ⁓ or Irish. Chad: That's not, yeah. Byron: And if, for example, play... ⁓ Chad: You also forgot Wales in that book. Byron: Well, they are British, so would say British or Irish. Even though not many Welsh players are going to make this. Anyway. Like for example, if two teams from the southern hemisphere or excluded from those make it into the semis and they both get knocked out in the semis, then it just should be whoever's ranked higher on World Rugby between those two. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Byron: then you could be a dick and say, well, then they're only going to tour South Africa. Chad: Well, Yep. Byron: Get good and get good, scrub. right, that's me, I'm done. I'm done talking, so go ahead. Chad: well how long will be 38 minutes okay cool i won't go through all of them ⁓ let's talk the baby box under 20s because ⁓ weekend a couple days ago ⁓ have the rugby championship they absolutely ⁓ yeah it's we play against new zealand ⁓ Byron: Yeah, we got time to talk whatever you want to talk about. OOOO We are the champions What's the game in hand, baby? Chad: next week and it's a dead rubber game we've locked it up. Byron: Yeah, but there's never a non-important game against New Zealand. ⁓ Chad: Yeah, but my question more is, you watch the game? Byron: I did not, unfortunately. I watched the highlights, I better not watch the game. Chad: Okay. So you watch some of those players are unreal. know five of them were in the lineman camp. ⁓ but now there's been, have been lots of really good players in the past in the under 20 side that have kind of just twizzled out and gone nowhere. I feel like it's a bit different with this group. I think, especially since they're being pulled into like the lineman camp and Russie's exposing the boys to what it's like to be a, I don't want to say a real spring block, but. Byron: Yeah. Chad: Springbok. Byron: Just a higher level of the same game. Chad: Yeah. but it feels like they, it just feels different with this team with, ⁓ with the players that they have. do reckon we are watching like the next generation come through and that they will actually feed into it, or do we just need to chill out because every other year we've had like one or two guys and we're like, this guy's amazing. He's going to be the next spring block captain. then a year goes by and he's gone. Byron: Yeah, but I think a lot of those guys who make the under 20 side and they do come up and they make it into bigger club sides, they're playing for the Stormers or the Lions or the Sharks or the Bulls. Or hopefully next season we can say the Cheetahs, depending on what happens with them. But I think the thing as well is those guys end up joining those teams and then they've got to work hard to get starting positions. And then from there, they've got to work hard to become impressive at those teams. But you start to see it, you'll like, for example, he was ⁓ of the under 20 standouts when he, when they, I think they won it or they came, weird. One of the World Cups. And I would say right now, he's, probably been, ⁓ gonna. Chad: World Cup. Byron: I have no idea, but I'm gonna assume like four to six years since then. So he's in his mid to middle to late twenties now, or maybe mid twenties exactly. But now he's becoming like a really, really, really good outside center. At under twenties level, he was like untouchable and he was incredible. And then there's that little bit of a lull. And I think all that is, is because the game has gotten so much more than just being strong and fast. Chad: Yeah. Byron: I think that there's a little bit of an adaption period from the under ⁓ level into the senior level where you're constantly playing against top-notch international opposition. Because when you play a URC game, you're playing international players from those countries. exactly. So I think there is a, obviously, 20 international level is played at such a high competitive level. Chad: Yeah, week in, week out. Byron: but I just think that extra step into, even though it's international club rugby, it's the highest level of international club rugby. And I think it takes them a few years just to be like, one, physically ready for it. Because I think that for ⁓ exactly, like he's a strong boy and he can do all of the things. But when you've got someone who's like, Chad: Yeah. Yeah, I mean we saw that with Milda last week. For under 20s, yeah. Byron: He's been hardened by rugby for 30 years. hits you a little different than a really strong 19 year old. ⁓ got a wife and kids. ⁓ got ⁓ things that he's playing rugby for than I'm really good at the sport. So think ⁓ it's think ⁓ the as every big under 20 competition, there'll be... ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Hahaha Yeah. Byron: five to ten of them that move into the big clubs. The other ones will also make it into clubs, but maybe not at UIC level. lot of them go on to play varsity cup for a few more years as well. Or they'll play for like the Chrikwas or something like that too. So there's all of these different channels for them just to experience it and get better. I think that's standard. Sorry, that was long-winded, but I think that answers your question. Chad: Yeah. It does. Yeah, I reckon just so many good players at the moment out of that squad. Like. You are C level could absolutely go into the squad, not be like this, like you said, not a standout, but could absolutely be in that squad for sure in any one of those words. Byron: and also like the strength. Yeah. I think the Lions are doing it well with Batu, for example. You him to get as much game time as possible, but he's still so young ⁓ that don't want him starting every game. You want him coming out when it's when you're winning, coming out when you're losing, and then also just to get beat up every week to adapt the change. Chad: Yeah. It's exciting for South African rugby, reckon. It's so good. that pulls us through to 2020, 2031 in America. Byron: It's so exciting. some of those oaks are gonna be 2035. Chad: 100 % something yeah 100 they'll be here for 15 years some of them which is wild I'll be almost 50 Byron: So cool. what's the name? was the... He played for us in the last World Cup. He took captain when Bongi went off. Chad: ⁓ yeah. ⁓ my god, I forgot his name. Varee. Byron: Fareed, he made his debut at like 30 something, so there's still hope for you, Jack. Chad: two chances for me at zero and fuck all. ⁓ Byron: You No, it is exciting. And I think the level of rugby as well. Every 20 competition seems to be getting better and better. Chad: Yeah, 100%. Byron: There was a podcast that was talking about that and they were talking about like the channels for players, how do they become professionals? And if you look at the way to do it in South African rugby, of course, is you play for one of the top school teams, if you can, and then they'll pick you up at Craven Week and you'll go join one of the big clubs or one of the varsity club sites and then you eventually make it and over and over. But I think that the skill level, for these players that are in their teens every just getting better and better and better. Like an under 18 or an under 17 team now would absolutely wreck the same under 17 team from five years ago. Chad: No, great. Byron: It's insane to watch how good the... Chad: And they see, I don't know if it's me just getting old, but they just seem to be getting bigger and stronger too. Like when I first watched the opening game, I was like, are you sure? Have we checked all these Oaks birth certificates here? Byron: Some of them look like they have four kids at home. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, and I was looking at it, especially like our boys seem... It's just a bit suspicious, that's all I'm saying. They're quite large and a little bit bigger, like almost all of them. Yeah. Byron: A little bit bigger than everybody else. Maybe someone wants to test those Mexican supplements or tainted meat is what they like to call it. Chad: Yeah, because. but so about that. another thing that out of this week ⁓ Russie leaving at Bongi, Vully, and out of the alignment camp. it's a bit of a rough one. Some legends of the game being there for a while. is that ⁓ You reckon that's a bit ruthless? Do you think it's on point? Byron: There's two ways to answer this question. And I think the ruthless answer is the correct answer. ⁓ They are legends of the game and what they've done for Springbok Rugby is incredible. Some of those guys are two time Rugby World Cup champions, back to back, which is crazy, right? it is the things on the wall that not ⁓ who's won World Cups Chad: You pick. Give us both. Yeah. Byron: is going to win three World Cups. Like you have had your career before that and if you just count that, that's 12 years the highest level of rugby. Chad: Yeah. Byron: and Chad: you surprised by any of them ⁓ ⁓ Byron: mean, if you look at those names and you'd look at their ages, it's pretty on the nose, is it not? Chad: I think Bongi, Bongi was still drawing some real good rugby. was like, I'm not, but he's probably the oldest I reckon out of those four. I know Nkanya's had some injuries and he's been, the Sharks obviously haven't had a great season, right? So Koch and Nkanya both, there. So there's nothing to write home about. They weren't exactly winning all the scrums and nailing all the line outs. ⁓ But Bongi I was a bit surprised by. I love Bongi. Byron: I mean, I love all of those guys, but like I said, what they've done for Green Park rugby, it never be forgotten and not to speak badly about either of them, any of them. think they're all fantastic, but I just brought them all up now. Bongi's the youngest, he's 35, which is crazy because he's a year older than me. And I'm like, that old man needs to retire. He's my age. But also think about the shit he put his body through. Chad: Yeah. 100 % yeah. Yeah. Hahaha Byron: his age? I'm not interested in that. Then you have Willy who's 36, Vincent's 36 and Trevor's 37. Chad: Yeah. Yeah. Byron: So it's 2026 now. So you've got to add another year to that before the World Cup starts. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So it's not, I think that they were kept for the first few alignment camps because what they bring in terms of knowledge and experience was important to hand and on. But I think that it's, and I don't think, I think leaving them out isn't an insult to them because you can't win two ⁓ Cups in a row and be considered a shitty prop. Chad: And down in the jersey, Byron: or a shitty hookah or a shitty fullback. Chad: I agree with you. ⁓ Byron: So it's just the evolution of what it takes to win consecutive World Cups is the way I look at it. Chad: Do you think it's a bit risky losing all these players just before the donations cup? Byron: nations, but not really, because it's not as if we only have 21 year old props and hookers. Chad: Ice and Championship. Yeah, it's true. I mean, yeah, our squad's like fucking 51 deep. Byron: It really is like Yeah, and all of them, except maybe some of the new kids could pretty much start tomorrow. And before. Chad: Yeah, I wonder if you'll have like a, ⁓ I'm a guy like really, you have to kind of bring into the coaching squad. Byron: Kinda like what they did with Dwayne. Chad: kind of like that yeah exactly what they did with Dwayne but because i mean the way that Villy has read the game for years so good having imagine having Villy's hey Byron: So good. So good. The same for all of these props that I have and Bongi at Hookah. Like that's why I said. Chad: Yeah, Bungie, I still reckon Bungie will be tapped in the shoulder and say, what was the lapper? I think he's got a chance of coming back. Byron: I mean, I think any one of these guys have the chance to come back, except I would say the lowest odds go to Vili. Because we're spoiled at fullback at the moment. If you look at the, the, the sharks, you would say your best fullback is Fassi. The Stormers have Damien Willemse. Lions have Kjørnhorn, who, Chad: Yeah. Yeah, it is tough. Byron: I don't know if he fits into the spring box system at full back, but fuck me is he an exciting rugby player. And then, really he's playing for the Bulls. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So you want his experience, but ⁓ no offense, I'm not starting really in front of Fassi. Chad: How old's Williamson? How old film sir? Byron: What you ask? Damien Willemsen. Chad: You won't be that much younger than Woody. OK, so yeah. Byron: 27. Nine years longer than Billy. That's a lot of years Chad. I don't know, ⁓ 27. 27. Chad: I thought you said 37. 27. Just as I feel like he's been around for a thousand years. Byron: But he has. That's because he joined one of the big clubs immediately after the under-20 World Cup. Chad: Yeah. Wasn't he the younger? mean, the milder. Milder took the record off of Willem Zeller as the youngest. True. KDMX checks out. Byron: Join us. So know their role, they're passing on the knowledge and I think it's ruthless, I think it's to be expected. Very rarely do players win one World Cup. It's even more rare for the same player to win two. ⁓ Chad: I don't know. Can you imagine it? then we've got a couple of players now still, although we, we are, yeah, or 18 months, less than 18 months now out of the rugby world cup. You've got to think like the likes of. Byron: See ya. Chad: Seah, yeah, Seah's definitely going to be in the squad. Polard, Faf, is that the one too? Byron: Yeah? Chad: Yes, marks. Imagine winning three and we're going on topic here. Winning three in a row will take, it's how long you reckon it'll take for another country to do that. Byron: A lot of those boys, a lot of those boys have won too. I'm obviously for another country is an insane. I'm thinking of one, like just an individual player. You have to play the best rugby in the world for 12 years in a row. You don't have to be the best player in the world in your position, but you have to be the best player in your country in that position for 12 years. Chad: Yeah, 12 years. Yeah, it's a tough one. Let's hang on. Let me just quickly do the math here too. I can do this here, Byron: That's fucking incredible. That's fucking incredible. Chad: Give me a calculator. Byron: What are you trying to math? Chad: So the next, so say we won 2027, right? that's it. So 2031 will be the next one. Byron: It'll take until 2039 so someone else could copy that feed. Chad: Jesus. to equal the record. ⁓ Byron: Yeah, yeah. If we win 2027, it'll take until then 2039 until someone could match our record. 2043, until someone beats it. Chad: That is wild. That is such a dumb thing to say. Byron: stupid. No, I think it's normal. I think it's part of the way it works. Chad: And then piggybacking off of that one about the rugby, nation champions and ⁓ The more that I've been like ⁓ reading ⁓ reading it and seeing the fixtures and the harp starting to build up because it's coming up pretty soon. Does it feel like a real tournament or do you reckon it's just like a ⁓ way sponsors to get money given that so close to the actual Rugby World Cup and ⁓ Byron: championship. Chad: It's going to be a lot of teams testing out how things are going. So I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. I'm excited for it. I'm grateful that we get to watch all these amazing teams go up against each other. I'm a skeptic that we get a bunch of half, not half baked, but half put together teams and they're trying out all these new fancy things and rotating players and stuff. Byron: Can I ask you a return question that I think might answer my question for you is these games are going to happen regardless, right? We're always going to have a Northern Hemisphere tour and a Southern Hemisphere tour. Chad: Mm. Byron: All that happens from this is it adds a little bit of spice, but I don't think that the approach for countries will change. I still think that, especially with the World Cup being next year, this competition will still be about putting your best squad together instead of winning the competition. And you can argue that for years prior, whenever you had a Northern or Southern Hemisphere tour. I think the cool bonus to this is the best teams that extra reward ⁓ the fans get the additional reward ⁓ we get to watch the knockout games at the end. Chad: I so. To me it feels like it's a money grab. Like another one of those things. No I did, I did. I was listing. I can get it but we're still ending up with the same result. We would have had these games... You said it, we can have these games regardless. It just seems weird. Yeah. Byron: Jesus, you really think I give a fuck about what I said? No, think both are true. Yeah. So like, Europe did it a while back with football. They started the European Cup or the European Championship or whatever it is. And they always have international friendlies ⁓ football and they'll always play one another. All they did was they put the teams in groups and then had knockout games at the end, but the games still take place during the friendlies window. The only difference is now that there's points to it, so it's... I think it's just more enjoyable and more interactive for the fans. But I don't necessarily think it's going to change the bigger picture of what those games are for and that's preparation for the big competitions. So I agree with you, it is a money grab. But I think that there is like some positives to it. It's definitely not been like... Chad: Yeah, I'm just becoming old and grumpy. Yeah, just feels like there's so many competitions that just keep popping up at the moment. Byron: Well no one's gonna be like, ⁓ my god we're the nation's championship! Like it's gonna be, ⁓ cool we won it! Yeah and it's like, ⁓ we lost in the semis Chad: Yeah, no one's gonna Yeah. Look, I'm happy to take another another trophy home and to watch. ⁓ there's no semis and stuff in this one, ⁓ Byron: Another trophy, ⁓ No, I think it's like first place, second, third place, fourth, fifth place, sixth, seventh place, eighth. Chad: So Ireland will play fifth. Byron: whatever the quarterfinal spot is. Chad: 5th 6th. Play there. it in. ⁓ Byron: and lock it in. Chad: in. be the last match, is when they play. And when is it? 28th November. Heard it here first. Byron: So far away. Chad: It's not. It feels like it's already May this year. Byron: I know the June fixtures can't come soon enough. Chad: We've only got a couple 48 days 47 40 6 days Byron: pump for that. You wanted to talk about New Zealand and their eligibility. Chad: I did. Good one. I was not going to talk about it because I forgot. But I was reading this morning. Mawanga cannot, is eligible until when was it? October. Byron: October 2026 I think it is. Yeah. Chad: Yeah, so he's coming back. He's playing for Canterbury and for the Crusaders forward. But because of the eligibility rules here in the Long White Cloud, he cannot join the squad and play in the... that's what they call it, apparently. Byron: Long white cloud. Is that that's making for New Zealand? Learn something new. Chad: There we go. The worst bit of that is you learned it from me. Byron: Which is why I don't trust it, I'm gonna Google it off the show ends. Chad: I would. yeah, he won't be joining the squad that over to South Africa. For the greatest rivalry. And I know it's tough to say, but obviously he will be in the picture for the Rugby World Cup in 2027. He'll be, he'll be picked and play a couple of games before that. And it'll be tough to say that he won't be in the picture. Byron: the greatest robbery. Chad: because he's incredible. But... Byron: Yeah, but I do to see him play against other top lads because Ruben at the moment, I didn't think anyone would get better than Damien McKenzie, but Ruben Love. Chad: Yeah. Unreal. That play, yeah. It's such a tacking rugby. great to see. But yeah, it's just wild. There's a couple of their players that aren't going to be eligible. Byron: I think you sent over Richie Mawanga, Shannon Frizzell and Lester Feigenhucke. Chad: Mm-hmm. important place. Byron: Yeah. I think that understand the reasoning behind eligibility restrictions. I think they're stupid because at the end of the day, a professional sports player has X of years ⁓ to rugby ⁓ and even shorter number of years where they're at their best. And they also retire at such a young age from professional sport. Chad: It is dumb. Byron: let them make as much fucking money as they possibly can and then they can live a good life after the fact. They're not making the same money as like professional footballers. So if you have the opportunity where your contract in Japan is paying substantially more than any contract you could get in New Zealand, people can argue the loyalty thing or like the national pride or whatever you want to do. Chad: No, not even close. Byron: none of those people are going to pay his rent or his mortgage or whatever it is when he retires. So I say go get your money and New Zealand or the long white cloud needs to be little more open to players enjoying and making as much out of their career as they can ⁓ then still getting to play for their national country because they are good enough. Chad: 100 bit Byron: to exposed to all these different types of games exactly. Especially for a World Cup. Chad: Yeah, like, yeah, I mean, there's been a couple of the the Kiwi guys got over play one season and then come back and they still eligible because of the weird rules and stuff, but. Byron: or Barrett and... Chad: playing for LensDir. Byron: Lens Star at that center. What is his name? Chad: Yeah, just need to... such a stupid rule. Like, there's such opportunity out there. And even the guys that going over to Japan, they are such high quality ⁓ players from all over the world playing in Japan at the moment. ⁓ Byron: Yes. I mean, you see a lot of balk on balk action when you get to watch some of the spring balk, the Japanese league. Chad: Yeah. Yeah, the Japanese A-League's... Yeah, it's so fun to watch. ⁓ Byron: And you have to defend against Cheslin Colby. So, you know, learning lessons every week. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. And you want, you want to get as much of that as you can. him sidestep you in ⁓ league one game than in a rugby world cup final. Yeah. Byron: Then the World Cup final. ⁓ Man, ⁓ Every now and then that run pops up on like someone's Instagram, like rugby pass will post it. And I watch it from start to finish and the rerun of the highlights. I can watch it from every angle and it's still fucking exciting. Chad: It's so good. Yeah, no it's... I love it. Yeah, I know a whole bunch of other shit yeah but I don't want to go too long. We'll keep it at an hour and we can... Next week will be... we'll have more time to talk. A little bit more cuck. Byron: Okay. about the news. news. The rugby news. Rugby is exciting at the moment. It's so good to watch. Chad: Yeah, I'm so excited for the internationals. I'm honestly counting down 46 days. I'm going to go bar fresh, fresh, fresh Boller Brandy and send it. Byron: Hold on, I got one more thing to talk about controversially, if you don't mind. Chad: Good. Byron: Because of all of the talk we've been doing about scrums and speeding up the game, I've been watching the game with the same sort of scrutiny one of those assholes who are trying to get rid of scrums are doing when they watch a game of rugby. Chad: Oh, you reminded me. No, no, can I tell you a story? Byron: Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So more I watch it, the more I think the the place to save time is place kicks. Not scrumptious. Chad: Yeah, I agree. Byron: I think that should be... If you, ⁓ think this, actually let me start with that. I don't think this should be the case. But if you're fighting for scrums to go away, maybe make it more... obvious what is a penalty and what is a free kick when it comes to scrums and stop the repeated scrum resets. But I don't think you should move the get away from the scrum at all. think what constitutes a scrum, can always, I think you should still be able to take a scrum from a free kick. I think that knock on should still be scrums. When you knock the ball into touch, you should have the option of a scrum or a line out. But I think that Chad: Yeah. Byron: the guidelines should be more clear on what is a free kick, what is a penalty from a scrum, and you can have less reset scrums. That's where I'm willing to compromise. But I think if you're really trying to save time, you make it little, you make it easier to get a kicking tee onto the pitch, and you cut that by 30 seconds. ⁓ I think you'll have more than enough fucking time to get it done. Chad: It makes sense. It's so dumb. Byron: And I also don't think you should give the kicker less time, I also don't think you should get rid of scrums. I'm only saying it from the perspective of them doing everything they can to speed up the game. Just shorten the kicks. Sometimes he stands there for 60 seconds for a penalty before he kicks, but he's ready, but still stands there. Yes, yeah. So if you to find something to save time, maybe look at place kicks. Chad: And it's right in front of the poles. Yeah. Byron: That's my two cents. You had a story. Thank you very much. Chad: Uh, the last pod I had homework to do, watch an MRL game with the fucked up rules. Dude, it's fucking terrible. It's so bad. It's, it makes no sense. I watched it was, uh, Chicago verse DC. Score was 49 31 to Chicago. Byron: Okay. Nothing. Chad: It's... Doesn't matter. It makes zero difference. Byron: Is it would you, I need to go watch a game. When's the next one? Maybe. So that would be Sunday night for me. I think maybe I need to watch a game now because I did watch one years ago when I was living in the US. I went to go watch whatever the New England, Chad: On Monday mornings for me. Three jacks. Byron: Three Jacks. I went to go watch one of them and I think they played DC ⁓ the name I was playing for DC at the time? Beast. And Tawerira. Chad: ⁓ yeah, I forgot that he went over there. Byron: even him he didn't get out of second gear Chad: I don't want to shit on the quality of rugby that was played. Just the laws. scrum. ⁓ Byron: There were also. the right. Okay, what do want to ⁓ yes, yes, okay, now I'm on the same wavelength as you. Chad: makes the difference is hardly any it doesn't make it any faster any slower it does nothing but annoy someone that's watched real rugby because it doesn't feel like real rugby ⁓ Byron: you argue that actually having less stoppages play ⁓ led the players being too tired to do anything fancy as the game wore on? Chad: 100%. look, don't know if it's... The quality of is different ⁓ start off with, even when they were fresh. ⁓ yes, there was a lot more just ⁓ little errors and... Byron: This level is probably different. Just because Oaks don't get the breaks and they're too tired. Chad: Yeah, I mean, it's a, it's a tough, tough game as it is. But I was. Byron: Also, if you weigh 110 kilos, every now and then to get a 30 second to 45 second break allows for a more exciting game as the game wears on. Chad: Yeah. But yeah, was, to me, it seems like a complete waste of time. It didn't. Byron: And it's interesting that you said it didn't speed up the game that much. Chad: I'll try and find the actual stats and how long the ball was in play versus how long the ball was in play for a Super Agbe game. And I can guarantee you it'll be the same if not longer. Byron: That would be so exciting. I don't know how you would find that, but if you do find that, that's a great argument point. Chad: Yeah, let's if I can find something here. I'll do it for next week's. ⁓ watch another game. I'll put myself through that. Byron: Yeah, because I think you're... Yeah, I've got one here, Saturday, 9th of May, 10 p.m. Chad: That's the New England free Jacks vs. California Okay Cool. Let's both watch that game. ⁓ that's Mother's Day. I know to pass that get get faster misses happy Mother's Day we get to watch the MRL MLR mean Byron: Yes, yeah. I'll try once. ⁓ only are we watching rugby, we're watching shit rugby. ⁓ Chad: Yeah. Happy Mother's Day. Can you make me a coffee? Byron: That's hilarious. it's not, ⁓ game you'll end up watching, I think the stats will be interesting. Ummm, I think we cut the cock. We cut a lot of cock. Chad: I think we did. did. It was good. it ⁓ ⁓ do more, more of the news ⁓ next again. That was fun. Byron: It's good to be back. We'll also have a segment coming up with a buddy of mine who don't know all the details around it, but he won some competition with First National Bank in South Africa and went to go have a bribe with Siya Khaleesi. Chad: It's so sick. Byron: The other thing I thought of that would be crazy is you can only take a certain number of people, right? You can never take enough people. I would hate to win that competition to have to pick people to come. Chad: Yeah, I'd be pissed off. Like if I wanted it and it didn't take you, or if you wanted it and didn't take me, I'd be like, fuck you, Byron, you absolute shit cat. Byron: Yeah, but then you're not the only one saying that to me. Chad: I know, I know, know, that's what I'm saying. Byron: When I told him I was like, they didn't win, so fuck them if you didn't take them. Chad: I would honestly, I would start a raffle ⁓ with my mates. ⁓ 100 of tickets. Byron: Like listen boys, I don't know who's all coming, we're gonna put your names in a hat, we're drawing, I don't know how many people went. But anyway, we'll talk to him probably this week or this weekend just to find out how it all was and I think it would be cool to find out what is Sia like from someone we know. That would be pretty interesting. Alright, like, subscribe, tell your auntie about us. Chad: Yeah. Byron: Maybe your uncle wants to watch, ask him as well. ⁓ to subscribe. We need a thousand subscribers and we're close but not close enough. Chad: Don't ask, him. Aren't it? Byron: Cut the cock. See ya!