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Episode 66 Crown Jewel 2024 Post show! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is w W E and E c W alumni.
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  Speaker 2: Look blue meanie, and you're listening to pc W.
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  Speaker 3: The question is, oh, you let.
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  Speaker 4: Me talk to I would give you a show like
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  Speaker 4: you have never ever seen before? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because I can't.
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  Speaker 4: What do you guys want to talk about? And the
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  Speaker 4: color rip in the world for the black and white
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  Speaker 4: of world?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't. What's dad? Who?
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  Speaker 4: Why you.
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  Speaker 3: Pat ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
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  Speaker 3: and welcome, Welcome, Welcome. We are back from Saudi done
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  Speaker 3: with Crown Jewel. It is in the rearview mirror, but
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  Speaker 3: well almost in the review. We gotta explain. We gotta
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  Speaker 3: do the post show. We gotta tell you how wrong
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  Speaker 3: we were at some predictions, not all of us, mostly me.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of things I predicted did not happen. I
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  Speaker 3: am shamed. I still showed my face though, and here
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  Speaker 3: I am but uh yeah, the episode. I want to apologize.
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  Speaker 3: The episode did drop late, like literally an hour before
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  Speaker 3: the pay per view, and I know people were like,
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  Speaker 3: what the fuck. But I had an issue, but I
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  Speaker 3: got it out there. It's in the ether of all
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  Speaker 3: the other episodes, episode sixty five. This is episode sixty
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  Speaker 3: six now. But yeah, let's get into it. And with
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  Speaker 3: that said, let me bring in my co host.
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  Speaker 1: Drey.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing man, Welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, Yo? What did do PCW crew? Were you?
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  Speaker 3: Were you happy overall with this pay per view? I
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  Speaker 3: know you were excited going in when we did the predictions?
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  Speaker 3: Did were you happy at the end?
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  Speaker 5: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Are you letdown?
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  Speaker 5: I overall it was a good show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything was particularly terrible or anything was
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  Speaker 1: particularly letdown.
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  Speaker 5: It was just a good show. Not great, but just good.
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  Speaker 3: Right there right in the center. Mediocre all right, well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess not bad for a saudy media, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a crown jewel. So all right, returning with a vengeance,
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  Speaker 3: let's bring them on out. Doyle, welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 6: It's me, It's me, It's the d Oi l E.
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  Speaker 2: And uh it's election night here in uh the good
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  Speaker 2: old U s of A and uh so you're.
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  Speaker 6: Probably listening to this afterwards, so I hope you went
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  Speaker 6: out and voted.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you were saying to.
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  Speaker 2: Dre, uh yeah, not not not the earth shattering paper.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what for, once it moved, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have, you know, thirty five minutes between matches. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't have some bullshit, ridiculous segment with some comedian, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for twenty minutes in the middle of you know, this
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  Speaker 2: show moved right along, great pacing. So if for no
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  Speaker 2: other reason, I think it deserves our praise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, true, that was nice though, Like yet, we were
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  Speaker 3: kind of thinking there was gonna be some sort of
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  Speaker 3: halftime show, you know.
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  Speaker 6: The Saudi shows.
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  Speaker 2: They always bring out that comedian and you know, like
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  Speaker 2: and I guess the people over there know who he is,
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  Speaker 2: and that's great, but.
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  Speaker 6: We don't know who the hell he is.
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  Speaker 2: Even if we did, I don't need a twenty minute
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  Speaker 2: skit with stump bullshit in the middle of it. Yeah, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's just it just dragged. It kills all the momentum
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  Speaker 2: the show has. It's just such a waste of fucking time.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm glad we didn't get that.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, absolutely. Did anybody get the attendance for this?
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't find it anywhere. I was just curious.
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  Speaker 2: I looked at the last two events at that States Stadium,
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  Speaker 2: and they were both exactly twenty two thousand, which I
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  Speaker 2: found curious. And then I saw for this one, it's
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  Speaker 2: not on the Wikipedia page, but someone I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: where I saw twenty thousand exactly. Yeah, I can't remember where.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what the accuracy.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: That may be misinformation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Don't go out and swear to God that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean that's about what the other shows have
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  Speaker 2: been allegedly, So yeah, the fact that that's about what
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  Speaker 2: it was A decent sized crowd.
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  Speaker 1: Any the way, however, many people were there. Credit to them.
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  Speaker 1: They were at least turned up and very into the
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  Speaker 1: show and loud as fuck and once again put American
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  Speaker 1: crowds to shame.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it says here twenty thousand. Okay, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: impressive for twenty thousand. I mean, I want to guess that,
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  Speaker 3: and I would have. Didn't they have what's the other
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  Speaker 3: venue that they do that it's open? Didn't they do
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  Speaker 3: another one?
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  Speaker 6: It's not crowd, it's a big venue.
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  Speaker 3: They work a lot, it's an open one.
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  Speaker 7: I feel like that one's much smaller though you think
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  Speaker 7: so yeah, I'm always I feel like I'm always surprised
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  Speaker 7: that I expected to be bigger and it's small, right,
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  Speaker 7: that one's only like ten thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's just the crowd that makes it
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  Speaker 3: seem large. Just you know, that fucking sound just it
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  Speaker 3: sounded so damn loud. But uh I yeah, Dre, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to take the reins here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We might as well hop right into these matches. So
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  Speaker 1: kicking off the show, I guess, given that they were
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of the world, they were gonna
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  Speaker 1: flip the script on us and kick off the show
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  Speaker 1: with the Bloodline match featuring Solo So Code, Jacob Fasu
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  Speaker 1: and Toma Tonga taking on Roman Reigns and Jimmy and
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  Speaker 1: Jay Uso. You know, the match we all thought was
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  Speaker 1: going to be the main event, but this match wound
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  Speaker 1: up going to the blood Line two point zero team
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  Speaker 1: of Solo So Cold Jocob got to win Toma Tonga
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  Speaker 1: with to me was probably the biggest surprise in this match,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Solo pinned Roman clean no No. Obviously,
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: shenanigans ensued and such, but ultimately, when it came down
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  Speaker 1: to it, Solo two spikes to the doat one two
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  Speaker 1: three m ninety night Roman. But uh, just like every
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  Speaker 1: other Bloodline match, it's not about the spots of the
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  Speaker 1: technicalities or the nd ring performance or anything about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the storyline and how that plays out
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  Speaker 1: in the match, which in this one one I liked
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Jay still got his own entrance. They
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  Speaker 1: did not let not a single yeek go to waste.
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  Speaker 1: They said, y'all gonna get these heats on this show regardless.
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  Speaker 1: And you could see while he was hyping up the crowd,
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  Speaker 1: you could see a little bit of a I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you want to call it jealousy or basically
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  Speaker 1: Roman didn't appear to be feeling the vibes as Jay
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  Speaker 1: was out there.
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  Speaker 5: He was just off to the side, like okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then that tension carried threw into the match with
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  Speaker 1: Jay's choosing to start off and having a moment to
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  Speaker 1: having an opportunity to tag Jay, I mean Jimmy or Roman,
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  Speaker 1: and he chose Jimmy, even though Roman put his hand
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  Speaker 1: out ready for the tag and the crowd was ready
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, give us Roman gets from
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  Speaker 1: He said, yeah, nah, Jimmy, and that probably led to
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  Speaker 1: their downfall, the fact that they weren't a really one
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  Speaker 1: accord and such. And then, like I said, Roman was
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  Speaker 1: the one pin clean and afterwards blood Line two Pino
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  Speaker 1: goes to put the beat down on him.
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  Speaker 5: They get the fighting back. It's a four on one.
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  Speaker 1: No real uh, no surprise entrances or surprise new additions
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  Speaker 1: that we expected. Nope, just regular basic ass Sammy to
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  Speaker 1: the rescue, which got a good crowd pop from the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: He comes out there seemingly who side he gonna be on,
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  Speaker 1: Solo sitting there ready to raise him, like, come on through,
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  Speaker 1: come on and hug you boy. He goes in for
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  Speaker 1: the hug and nope, suplex and then the odds of
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  Speaker 1: even they seem to have the upper hand down the
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  Speaker 1: solo in the ring with all four corners of og
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  Speaker 1: blood Line in it. Roman goes in for the Superman punch,
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  Speaker 1: Sammy goes in for the holluva kid, Solo hits it
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  Speaker 1: with the pych bitch you thought, and Roman gets laid
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  Speaker 1: the fuck out by Sammy's ain And that's pretty much
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  Speaker 1: how this match ended. Oh Wayne, what were your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on this one?
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  Speaker 3: Man? I agree with the uh, the entrance. I like
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they all they kept Jay apart from that,
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  Speaker 3: because it still doesn't feel like the full reunion. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, we have to work together, you know, but
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  Speaker 3: we don't have to get along because we saw a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of that with Jay and Roman. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not making those tags, so even as a team,
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  Speaker 3: there's still a lot of tension going on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like they can't forget the damage that has been done.
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  Speaker 3: Out of all people, Sammy's ain not forgetting the damage
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  Speaker 3: that has been done. But I liked I liked the
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  Speaker 3: match itself. It was nice scene Jay and Jimmy back together,
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  Speaker 3: seeing that little bit of you know, that that tag
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  Speaker 3: team love that those guys always had. You know, they
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  Speaker 3: were just great together in the ring, and it's been
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  Speaker 3: a while, you know, like something that we've had for
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  Speaker 3: so many years, and they were like, oh man, they
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  Speaker 3: haven't been team for a while. They've been on their
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  Speaker 3: own doing their own stick, and it's good to see
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  Speaker 3: them together again in the ring. Actually, it's good to
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  Speaker 3: see all three of them together in the ring because
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: they've been apart for so long and I know some people.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've had the Bloodline basically shove down our
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  Speaker 3: throats for three years, but now instead of the heels
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: that somehow they've turned it around and now they're the faces.
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  Speaker 3: And I was watching this with two other people who
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: don't really watch wrestling, and I was trying to fill
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  Speaker 3: them in on this kind of match, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was like, would you believe it? I
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  Speaker 3: said that everybody in that ring is related in some way,
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  Speaker 3: even Sammy's saying you know, uh, and really like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's like a civil war within the family. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: expect them to the og, you know, Bloodline to go
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  Speaker 3: over here. I mean, it's the numbers game. It's they're
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  Speaker 3: ound numbered, right, you got to put Solo over Strong
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  Speaker 3: And he's now pinned Roman and Cody within the same year.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a guy that not too long ago,
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: you know, he was on a losing streak. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this man was losing every match for a year, and
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  Speaker 3: now he you know, pinned the two biggest names. And
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  Speaker 3: you know he's not kicking off the show. That's just
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: as you know, in some ways shape or form, just
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  Speaker 3: as good as you know, closing the show. So and
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: this man's got his own stable and stuff, and they're
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  Speaker 3: pushed him strong. And now the dynamic of having you know,
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: Sammy into the picture again. We're gonna get this foign
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  Speaker 3: four at war Games, and I just think I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I thought when they had you know, Solo surrounded, I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is this is why he's gonna get his licking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is where they're gonna get Solo, you know,
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  Speaker 3: give him a little beat down. But I was kind
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: of shocked to see that, you know, when he got
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: out of the way, and yet halluvah, you know, Rowan
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  Speaker 3: Rains got Halluva kicked in the face. I didn't see
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  Speaker 3: that coming, I'm gonna be honest. But overall, I did
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  Speaker 3: enjoy it. You know, it's in it's furthering the storyline
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  Speaker 3: with it for the family. We're getting to war games.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's where we want to get to.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: The just the question is where the hell do you
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  Speaker 3: go after war Games? Yeah, you know, you got to
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: separate these two bloodlines because you can't have these guys
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  Speaker 3: on the same roster at this is all said done. Uh,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: it's just too saturated with Samoans at this point. But yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: it's like you got us. It's it's like the LWO.
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  Speaker 3: You have to like put them on separate brands or
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be the same ship every week. So but yeah,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: oh and also like Sammy's ain't getting a huge fucking
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  Speaker 3: pop when he came out of course, right.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, he's like almost over there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I maybe we didn't need a
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  Speaker 3: new character. I knew, you know Oos or somebody in
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  Speaker 3: the picture here. Maybe we didn't need the Rock you know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe we didn't need those and it was proven that
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  Speaker 3: we didn't need those big star names for this to
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  Speaker 3: story to go forward.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. I mean, at this point,
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  Speaker 1: obviously there's still more storyline to be told, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at this point, just the initial I guess you could
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  Speaker 1: say the opening shots and this latest chapter in terms
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: of them having actual matches with each other. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we don't need to break out the new Blood line
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: member or the Rock Canning yet. Yeah, pretty sure those
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: you know, still cars they have left to play, if
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I say, or at some later point in this ongoing saga, Right, Doyle,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: what were your thoughts.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: I want to have about the three Stooges for a second,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: if I may, I swear that's gonna about the match.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: probably Curly is their favorite stooge, right, And I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: there's Mo people and Shemp people. We don't like to
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: talk about the Shemp people. But my favorite is Larry
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why, because even when Larry isn't
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  Speaker 2: doing anything, he's doing something like when Moe is hitting
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  Speaker 2: Curly over the head with.
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  Speaker 6: The lead pipe, Larry's reacting to it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: When Curly says something stupid, Larry's reacting, And for me,
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  Speaker 2: that's the funniest part of the show.
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  Speaker 6: And it's kind of like that with Roman Reigne.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you just watched Roman for the first
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  Speaker 2: couple of minutes of this match, just a masterclass between
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you know, I think somebody mentioned is I think Drey
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: said that during Jay's entrance, you know, kind of almost disapproval,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, he's putting on a masterclass. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's rare that a performer can be the most compelling
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  Speaker 2: part of a pro wrestling match just by standing on
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  Speaker 2: the apron. You know, maybe it tells me something about
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the rest of the match, because the match was fine.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: You know, but you know, like we said, all Bloodline matches,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what matters is what happens after the match.
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  Speaker 6: That's really the most important.
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, I think the only thing I would
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: add is that I'm surprised how that Roman took the
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: pin and how easy it was to pin Roman Range.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought for sure Jimmy was going to
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: take the fall. It's only the third time during the
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Tribal Chief era that Roman has been pinned. It seems
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: like that should have maybe been a bigger deal, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: especially because there's I think there's so much heavy lifting
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they're going to have to do to make Bloodline two
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  Speaker 2: point zero seem like equals because just on paper, the
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: team of the Uzer, Sammy's A and Roman Range should wipe,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: you know, mop the floor with the Bloodline two point
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  Speaker 2: oh uh you know, uh, so they're really gonna need
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to boost Solo somehow. At the very least. I think
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Jacob Fatu is there maybe, But the Tonguans look like
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: they look like uh Pat Patterson and uh and.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Fucking dip ship useless h But I think yeah, I
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: think we were.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Say more so to I think Tom Tonga is not
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: bad at all. He I think he's being dragged down
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: by Tongo Low.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Maybe I think we'll see the Rock aligned with them.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Whether or not he's actually involved in the War Games match,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I think probably not, uh not physically anyway, or he may,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you know, say fuck it, I'm on the board. I'm
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: gonna make myself the fifth member of their team, you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: fuck you guys or whatever.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's it.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I don't because it just it just seems like the Oruzo,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Sammy and Roman should just destroyed pretty much anybody, right, Like,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: there shouldn't really be any other four four man comedy
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  Speaker 2: that can really.
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  Speaker 6: Compete with them.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, on paper, you're absolutely right about that,
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  Speaker 1: and they Yet they definitely should have made it such
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a bigger deal given that, like you said, Solo is
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the only the third person to pen Roman and his
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: tribal chief persona. Now, I guess maybe it doesn't feel
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like such a big deal because those two of those
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: pins have come this year with Cody at WrestleMania and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: now Solo Harry Crown Jewel, and then you know Jay's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: happened last year before Summer Slam, right right, And then
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: if you go back further than that. It's only the
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: fourth pin and god knows how many wins because let's
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: not forget old you know, Baron Corbyn, you know yeah,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: also with yeah, yeah, you know, mister future endeavored himself.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Dar too soon, too soon, guys. He probably even fell
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: out his unemployment ship. Yeah too soon.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: H well, I mean he gets he can take them
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: bragging rights into contract negotiations with other companies. Agin going
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: into some other companies saying I'm the only person here
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: who's pinned the biggest star in wrestling. I retired Angle, Yeah,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Jesus right, retired Kurd Angle pinned Roman Reigns. Shoot yeah,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: pay that man, top dollar, Pay that man top dollar.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: it's crazy that he got let go in Indy Hartwell,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Teagan Knocks and that's who I can think of on
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the top of my head. But Indy Hartwell was like
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: on TV like the other week.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: She was literally on TV the day she got fired
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: because they had prerecorded that smack Down.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Yo, man, I don't want to know.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Did it like three?
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: And then that night she was on smack Down?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to But now Paula Cruz is
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: by himself, you know guys tag team partner Baron Korman.
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: When Alistair Black got fired, he had been like in
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the SmackDown main event that week.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I think he had like a title match or something.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ww needs to work on their time.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I think see him Punk got like let
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: go on his wedding day. Was it like he got
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: his fax or something like that? Yeah? I was like
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Dann that maybe like there's this like the persons is
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: such an asshole, you know, And.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to disparage this person because I like
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: them and they seem like in real life, they seem
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like an awesome person.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: And but how does it almost still have a job there?
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: They're firing these three? But when the funk was he
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: last on television?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I saw something somewhere posted today that like, oh, Undertaker
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: thinks almost could be the next like him, and I
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: just like rolled my eyes, like I might even got
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: to read the rest of this article, like under Take,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: what are you saying? Man, Like this man's gotta like
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: this almost on TV?
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, probably on.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Like freaking main event or whatever the other show is that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Don't nobody watched that?
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Remember remember when he was the bodyguard for Sham mcman's
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Underground Fight Club.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm that existed, right, But getting back to this,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to the Bloodline match, you're you do bring up a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: valid point, Doyle about the fact that they should on
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: paper just be Curve stomping the ship out of blood
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Line two point oh, because regardless of how much they've
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: been having a beat down for some of that stuff,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem to be sticking as far as
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the credibility consequence. Real. Yeah, I mean they've won tag
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: titles on Tomatonga and Togo Lowa, obviously the two weakest
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: ones in the group.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: Couple of months.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Solo just is not getting over as a as
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a top guy. Jacob Patu is the one that gets
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the most reaction out of it. But he's still new.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what has improved, and a lot.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: He has definitely improved a lot.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: He's been working on his physique a lot because he's lost.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He's slimmed down significantly since when he first debuted with
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the blood Line.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Him and Jacob Fattu.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: If you look at some images of Jacob Patu before
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he came to the E, you know he had a
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: bit of a that's that Samoan gut on him. He
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: slimmed down a lot for both of them, the credits
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to both of them. But it's just for some reason,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's just not thinking.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, doesn't seem I'm not scared of Solo. It doesn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: seem like a threat. It doesn't seem threatening at.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: All, exactly, not at all. Disease come across as just that,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: you know, real threat, like you don't look, you don't
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: look at him and see champion no matter what, you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: just don't. So yeah, they should be just getting dog
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: walk But obviously there's more to this storyline. Obviously there's this.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: We're not in the final chapters at all. So the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: question does become, how do you continue to drag this out?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: How do you get more miles out of it? Especially
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: past war Games? If this is going to be you know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the next chapter. And I'm still holding out hope that
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the theory that I proposed in our preview episode comes
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to play in the War Games match, and that is
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Sammy's Ain turning on the blood line and siding with Solo.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: And though I'd be very interesting to me.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's the most to me, it's the most interesting thing
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: he can do because right now, you know, obviously as
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a you know, say see kick Roman in the face
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: and then on Raw he came to the ring to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: try to explain what happened. Jimmy Jay both show up
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: talk to him about it. Jimmy don't trust him. Jay
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: tries to have his back. Jamie went so far as
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: calling him Sammy USO invite him to smack down Friday
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to speak to Roman and try to squash all this out.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So they're kind of gonna, I guess from now the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: war game is gonna play this. Yeah, Cider, you one
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: thing that you know is he is he Bloodline or
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: is he New blood Line? YadA yeada blah blah blah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's probably gonna be with Roman and Up going
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: into the match, and I just want him to in
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the match turn on them, cost them the match, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: side with the with New blood Line. Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's too late to add a new add
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: new players at this point. Yeah blood Line two point.
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: Oh, I'm not going to care any more about them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: When if they have some other guy I've never heard of.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, even if they bring in one of
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the some other rumored guys that you know whatever, this
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: tall ass motherfucker Tom and that's yeah. If they bring
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: them in, it's like, okay, another monster, we got Jacob Fazu.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: So where is it? Where do you get more life
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: out of this?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Because if if if og Bloodline wins the war Games match,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: then what's left. The old guys have conquered the new guys.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: We're done here.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: So presumably blood Line two point oh needs to pick
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: up another win and war Games, But the question is.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: How it's a big win too, And to me, the only.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Way it comes is it has to be some form
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of betrayal to Bloodline and the only people two people
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that can come from would be either Paul Hayman, which
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: seems highly unlikely given how he went out saying that
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Solo's not his tribal chief and taking a day now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that he went out saying you're not my
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: trible chief and taking a whole ass whooping for it
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: seems highly unlikely that he would come back suddenly on
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Solo side. So then that leaves Sammy or some insertion
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of the Rock and to me or compelling option of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the two.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: It's like Rocks always like the wild card in this
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: because he could play either side.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: And we still can't ignore the fact that Rocks apparently
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: has still has eyes on Cody's title, so he may
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: not factor into the bloodline thing at all. He may
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: be and also there's rocks ego to be considered, so
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Rock may only be interested just in that he may
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: not want anything to do with the bloodline at this
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: point in time.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So he whatever he popped back up, it may have
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with blood line at all. Any other
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this match.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Now, I'm just excited to see it go forward, you know.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: All right, So moving on to the next match, we
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: have the fatal four way tag team match for the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: WWE Women's Tag Team Championship. Got our champions Bianca Belair
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and Jade Cargill defending against Damage Control, the team of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Kyrie Saying and EO Sky Meta four which is Lash
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Legend and Jakara Jackson and Chelsea Green and Piper Niven
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: who are just Chelsea Green and Piper Kniven who have
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: no name. And this match went to Bianca and Jade
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: successfully defending their titles and retaining as Women's Tag Team Champions.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: This match pretty much if you saw the the I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: guess preview if you saw the four way match on
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: SmackDown the night before that featured but Bianca, Eou Lash
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and was it Piper? I think yeah, Lash and Piper
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: were in that match, and that forward that they had.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: This match kind of was similar to that in fact
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that one the women showed out. It was a bit
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of a spot fest, but it was an entertaining spot fest,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and they really just let them do whatever they wanted
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that ring and let them cook. I think one of
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: my favorite parts of the match. I think it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: smart to have Bianca and Eo kick off the match
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: because they're the probably two of the most experienced ones
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in this ring, and they have, between all these possible
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: combinations or permutations, they've got the most in ring chemistry
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: with each other. And they started off and had a
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: nice little sect sequence back and forth to really kick
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: off the match on a high note. And from there
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it never it never went down, It never let up.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Pretty much. Spot after spott the spot after moment after
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a moment, we just saw a little entertaining segments from
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Chelsea Green where she seemed like she was going to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: come off the top rope to the women in the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: outside and her fear of heights kicked in, so she
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: went down to the middle rope and no, not the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: best a little too much, went down to the bottom
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and then jumped off, just to be caught by Piper,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: which then led to somebody else coming off, and then
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: somebody else coming off Spotfest but entertaining Mash, very entertaining Spotfest.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that Biak and Jad are still champions. Well, Doyle,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this one?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm glad to see the women's tag titles
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: on the actual show for a change instead of the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: go home or.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: You know, not at all.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: But I liked it, but I don't think I liked
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it as much as you did. I think it kind
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of felt kind of thrown together at the last minute,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: and come to find out it was we were supposed
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to get Ria and Raquel, but I guess due to
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Ria's real life injury, which what a fucking bummer, we
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: got this instead.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: At the last second.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I actually thought there was a halfway decent title that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the the chance that the titles might go back to
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: NXT with a metaphor or go to Chelsea and Piper,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: because I expect Chelsea to play have a big role
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in Survivor series in some fashion because she's from Vancouver,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and I think she's gonna be over like Rover as
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: they say. But I mean, at the end of the day,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I think leaving the belts on BB and Jade was
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: the right call.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: One way, you know, like Gunther's title reign is, you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: one way to make a title feel more special is
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to have a nice, long, dominant title run, you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: by a dominant champion, you.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Know, And I think.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: And I think it's necessary for them to have a
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: dominant championship raid so that the eventual Beyonca Jade feud,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: which I don't think is dre You sounded like you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: were kind of panicking about that on the discord.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: At the end of the day, I don't think we're
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: there yet.
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: This may have been like a little teaser, but I
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: think that's more of a royal rumble into WrestleMania kind
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: of thing.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: This might just be the first little seed of that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I hope anyway, because I'd like to see them go
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: on a bit of a run here. But they are
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: gonna run out of opponents real quick if they're beating
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: them free at a time.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: So but yeah, I still tell you what, what's her name?
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: The girlfriend girl? She's as star mm hmm. She's a
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: fucking star.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: So I look forward to whatever she's gonna do in
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the next couple of years, and that women's division is
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: gonna be fucking incredible, uh sooner rather than like, I mean,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: it's already good, but uh so.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think to that point, what the women's division
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: is doing, which they seem to be doing arguably better
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: than the men right now, is they're bringing along the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: next generation mm hm and not just relying on the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: stars that they already have, because like I said, yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you see, on's like lash legend, she's on to come up.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Jakar Jackson, I think she. I think she has some
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: some potential, some d ring ability. I've kind of paid
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit of attention to her specifically in.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: This match, and she could work pretty well.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: So far as character work to be is tbd, but
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: she seems to have it in the ring. And you know,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: obviously all the stars that they have in NXT just
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: waiting to be called up.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: You know, your.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Roxanne Perez is your uh, Julia's the Nikita Lyons if
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: she can ever stay off the injury shell, off the
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: off the injury list, you know, Jada Parker and them, like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the future is really right for the women's division because,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: like I said, they have that next generation ready to go,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and they can just pluck them up as they're ready
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: and integrate them and put them in there, as opposed
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to the men, where like you said, they seem to
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: be writing what they already have at least at this
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: point in time, and not really building up too much
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: of that next generation, at least not as of yet now.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Obviously that can always be turned around.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But to the point of the teasing of Bianca and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Jade breaking up, yeah, I hope that they save it
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to at least the rumble. That's the timeline I've kind
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of always been on. But it does seem like they're
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: starting to rush that a bit, because, Yeah, they teased
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it a little bit going into this match. They also
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: teased it again on Raw when he at the Battle
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah the Batter, not just the Battle Weill but Live
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: coming coming out there to do her celebration to be
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: interrupted by Beyonca and Jade for.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Seemingly no reason.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and Jade like hey, we want to, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: then Live goes into a thing of be careful, Jade,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Beyonca's gonna stab you in the back, Like the fuck
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know about that? Live, You ain't never worked with Bianca,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you don't know her like that, Like she ain't never
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: betrayed you, So how you gonna speak to this? But
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it didn't. That whole segment didn't make sense, at least
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: not for Live to be the one trying to plant
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: the seeds of deception or betrayal. Now, maybe she could
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: have said, like, I've been betrayed before. I know the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: signs when I when they're you know when they're coming,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: take my pict because obviously then she could have played
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: up the fact that she's been betrayed by Riha and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: such and such.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: But that's not the route they went with the narrative.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: In terms of what liv was saying in the ring,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: she was just saying that like, Beyonca's gonna be the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: one to turn on Jade, and she Live ain't got
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: no credibility to make that claim. And then Adam Pierce,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Old Punk has come out there and says, all right,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna have a number one contenders match for
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: your title or number one contender's Battle Royal, and now
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you got your tag team people in the Battle Royal,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and they even teased it then almost came they were
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: two of the last four at a moment where they
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: were staring down the ring.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: It might have to go at it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's too much teasing for them to not be going
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: somewhere with this. I can't see them teasing this. That's
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: they're really gonna slow drag this, but tease this. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: it's just the beginning of November. We still got Survivor
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Series and Saturday Night main event to go this year.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: You're just gonna keep teasing this for the next two
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: pls and then also into the Rumble, like we all
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: know it's gonna happen eventually, but it seems like they're
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: starting that path a little too soon. And like you said,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I would have preferred them remain strong, remain solid through
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: the rest of this year to further establish those women
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: tag titles for one, and then I think it's just so.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: That in a couple of months they go we've seen
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we've seen problems before. You know, I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I hope anyway, I mean, because I would like to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: see I think it'll mean them so much more if
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: this if they go on a you know, six eight
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: month title run or whatever.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I agree, they that's the route they should go,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: which they would be on if they hadn't you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: plucked the titles off of them for no fucking reason
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that you know, clashing the castle.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: So they could be a two time champion. That's why. Yeah, numbers, yeah, yeah, but.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: They just seem to be more overt with teasing their breakup,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: whereas if you look at, say, the other turn that
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: we all know is coming at some point of Randy
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Orton eventually turning on Cody, that one is much more subtle.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's just a tease. They don't say anything
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You just see all pretty much all we've seen so
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: far as just Brandy making long glances long stairs at
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: the at Cody's title. They don't they don't talk on it,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: they don't acknowledge it, they don't put out there. It's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: just a subtle thing that you see. It happens, move on,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. And that's to me, that's the route they
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: should be taken with Bianca and Jade. If they're gonna
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: slow burn this, let it be subtle, but don't be
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: so obvert like she's gonna turn on you. Wait, you're
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: good to competing, Like, okay, we're doing this thing now
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna be that loud about it, and obviously
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it's gotta go somewhere right hopefully they hopefully they find
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: some option to extend this before the actual turn happens.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But moving on to our next match.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: You don't want to hear my opinion on this match.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Oh ships, I'm like, I'm waiting for it now.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: It's cool.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, I gotta echo a lot of things you guys
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: were saying to you know, I enjoyed this match. All
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: these women got time to shine. Put in these spots.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I'm enjoying tag team moves, you know, these they're you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I think uh, Bianca and Jade had a tag team
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: move that they did they're finishing. We thought it was
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: kind of weird, but the more and more that they
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: do it, it's like this is their thing now, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: this is it's very unique to them now and I
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: see other women doing that. Uh, there's a lot of
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: good tag team combination moves. I thought in this match.
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Doomsday device, Yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was my favorite part.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and device clearly Damage Control had the skill in
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: in this match, you know, to outshine everybody. And you
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: know we had the strength brought in this match. Uh,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: we had the the comedy angle brought in this match,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: which I thought was hilarious as well. But we got
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of like we got a little bit of them,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: you know, face to Facebook, we've been getting a tease
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: of this new tag team that's that's come up, this
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: NXT tag team there. I feel like that's the team
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that's coming for him. If I had to put money
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: on the next tag team that might be coming for
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: that goal, that's who I have. Yeah, they're in NXT,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: but I feel like we're not done with those two.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be seeing a lot more of Lash Legend
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Jaikar Jackson. So that's who I predicts gonna take those
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: titles off. And once those titles are off of them,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: then they can you know, focus on that rivalry that
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: we might have that you.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Brought up, Dre.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: And I don't ask for Damna Control. I guess this
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: week on Roll we saw that you know, Sky got
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: a title shot. So that was kind of out of
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: nowhere for me because I didn't I wouldn't have expected that.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I thought they would have given it to Valkyrie. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: didn't think that's who was down to It was down
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: to her and EO. Yeah, I just thought, like somebody
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: who could be easily beaten, I guess, or but put
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: on a good show. I just thought, like, you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I guess if we're gone for quality, then yeah, I
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: understand why we wont with EO then for you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: we're probably gonna get a very good quality match then.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: But no, I I.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: I'm happy who left with the titles. You know, Uh,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: like you said, there's uh, maybe a little bit of
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: tension going there. I mean, they may have walked out champions,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: but how much longer will these women be champions. They're
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: definitely holding up the tag team division, and I, you know, know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: I was happy to see that we got this match,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and we talked about it last episode that how the
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: number of contenders are from each brand, and that's how
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: it should always be for the women's tag titles. You
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: take the best tag team from each brand, and you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: once in a while and we do some sort of
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: tournament or I don't know, it's stop throwing us random
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: tag teams. So make them work for it. I like
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: the fact that they had to work for these titles.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that is probably aside from their eventual breakup.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: That is probably the one other interesting thing right now
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is who is going to be the team to finally
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: take the titles off of Biaka and Jade. At this point,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they've beaten essentially every tag team combination
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: that exists right now.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah I think so too.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Hey, any other thoughts on this tag team match? O?
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Their outfits, I mean, like their outfits look nice because
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: you know, all these women have to wear these big
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: one piece outfits. It's it's come a long way from
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: the three excel T shirt that they would have to
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: wear Lacy Evans and Italia. They were wearing like they
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: were smiling the whole fucking match, and they were wearing
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: these like super big like T shirts. I was like,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: oh my god, they are like a pajama sleepover party.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Definitely right about that. And they all find ways to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: coordinate them and make themselves look like genuine tag teams,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: like obviously and j being completely jeweled out on yeah shit,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: yeah they look leaving pieces of their damn not just
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and J but all the women leaving pieces of their
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: ring attire all in the ring because you just at
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: one point you can see the wing. You just see
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: little bits and pieces everywhere.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, damn, yeah, it's like when you watch the
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: women's roy Rumble, it's always like hair extensions all over
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: the place, eyelashes, it's like parts of women all of
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the place. It's like your accessories.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: The bar factory exploded.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Right ay.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Moving on to the next match, we had Seth freaking
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Rollins taking on Bronson Reid in a one on one match,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and disappointingly, Seth Rollins in my well, disappointingly in my opinion,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Seth Rollins emerged victorious after his good old trustee super
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: stomp off the top rope, which came after a stomp
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: on the still steps, which came after another stop in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the ring. And I bring all that up to say,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: the stomp ain't stomping like it used to Seth Rollins.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Stomp is starting to enter a crossroads territory where he
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: can't beat nobody with just one dude.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that because that that was so
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: deadly for him, you know, and now they're they're weakening
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: it to the point where Yeah, you're right, it's gonna
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: take like two to three to take down the average beast.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: I guess right. I cringe every time I see Cody
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: do it, like it's if you need to use your
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: finisher three times and maybe you should pick a new finisher,
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I I mean, like
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: in any video game, if it's like, oh man, after
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I superkick you three times, I'm gonna pin you, Like, well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: maybe you shouldn't choose that move then if it's not
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: gonna put me out in the first superkick or whatever.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they are.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: They need to save the multiple finishers and use them
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: much more sparingly. Like it would be justified for this
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: one if you were building a Bronson Reed as a
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you know, legitimate monster, it would seem to make sense
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: on paper, but the fact that it's been done so
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: many times before makes it feel less effective and less special.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: In this match. Now, I will say, to their credit,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: they did do the thing that I kind of I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: think I think one of us have brought up in
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the last episode was seth Rollins wins, and then afterwards
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Broston Reed gets back up like bitch, I ain't done.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: He has that that Jason moment like I ain't dead,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: I'm coming back, which was further enhanced by the fact
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: that he was legitimately bleeding from above his eye. So
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I give him that was a cool moment. That was
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: a cool moment, and that Other than that, the match
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: yourself again, good match, not great. Bronson looked strong, Bronson
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: looked dominant. Seth did a great job putting him over,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you know, as far as you know, throwing everything he
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: could at Bronson but not being able to take him down.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: It was in every sense of the word, the match went
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: as it should, with the exception of the finish. In
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: my opinion, to me, I still say Bronson Reid should
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: have won. This is the type of feud that deserves
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to be to carry out over multiple pls, to carry out,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: you know, two or three months, and if that's the case,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Bronson should have gotten the first win in my opinion.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: But it appears they're going to continue this feud given
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that Bronson Reid showed up in the number one Contenders
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: match on Raw this past Monday and laid out every
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: goddamn body, including Seth. So it appears this is going
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to continue. Hopefully, Hopefully he wasn't just an angry guys
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: like throwing a tempertentrum taking everybody out, and hopefully this
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: is a sign that you know, this feud with him
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and Seth is going to continue. Right, you do get
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a second match, then God damn it, please let Bronson
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: win the second one.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: At ben me though, I'd have had.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Him lay out everybody and then match with in no
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: contest and then they able to cut the Jackie Redmen
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: interview on Adam Pierce backstage, like, Adam, where do we
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: go from here? Now? You don't have a number one
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: contender for Gunster's world title, and so Bronson Reid look
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: at me, I'm number one contender now and that's how
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: the show ends. That would have been fucking dope. But
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: you know, don't nobody listen to me? Wayne, What were
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this one?
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Did I got some things? He said? I think
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: they put the wrong guy over here. Even though Seth
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Rawllins has needed to pick up a w for quite
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: some time, his last PL's had been you know, putting
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: over other guys. Yeah, man, I think we saw it WrestleMania.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: He got the short end of the stick at WrestleMania.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I mean the man got knocked out a couple of times,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: so I mean he's he's on the card at least,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: right saything with Bronson read at least these two guys
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: are on the card. I mean, it's a great person
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: to put you over in a great match, But I
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: still think that the wrong guy went over here. This
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: is far from over. This match started before it even began.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: And what does that mean. It means it started before
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: the bell even rang, like it started on the ramp.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: These guys don't like each other clearly, and I and
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: when Seth Rollins doesn't like a guy like this, it's
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: a few that goes. There was one spot where Seth
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: tried to Sunset flip him over and he just straight
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: up just sat on his chest like just dropped all
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: his weight and just dude, there's no way he didn't
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: like take all their out of Seth. That I just
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: saw I haven't playing in the background I saw not
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: too long ago and made me laugh. What whose idea
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: was it to use Bronson red as a billboard for
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Gladie or two advertis Uh that man? Is that what
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: that was? Because that looked like they have it looked
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: like Gladiator too. I was like, I was like, okay, yeah.
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: I couldn't you not know who MF Doom is?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: No, tell me, I would say, I don't listen to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: MF Doom, but I'm aware of the guy. Yeah, he's
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a rapper with a very die hard, dedicated cult life
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: following There you go. You never have any realize you'll
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: never have any number one singles or anything like that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: But he has definitely made a career for himself, and
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: he has die hard fans who will ride for him
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to the end. He's got like that, like a grateful
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: dead type of fan base.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Are you one of those people?
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: No?
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: No, I mean I don't really listen to MF Doom
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: like that, but I can say for certain the people
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that funck with m F Doom, they fuck with m
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: F Doom.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: You heard it here first, folks. I actually Thron's outfact.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: It was kind of goofy when he came out. All
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: he was like this pointy two like I don't even know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: like thorns it looked like and his pants I thought
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: it was. I thought it was his legs. You could
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: see It's just the outfit, the color of the material.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: But he always has unique outfits.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: Ah, I thought he had holes in his pants too.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I thought it was. I thought he
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: had holes in his pants. I don't know. Do you
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: guys think the next match in his feud? Do you
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: think we need a stipulation of some kind a gimmick match?
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Do we need like a steel cage match, a no disqualification?
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: What do we need?
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: It didn't surprise me.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it depends on how far they plan
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: all going with the feud, Like, yeah, if it's going
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to be a three match FEWD then obviously the next
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: one should probably be like a no DQ or false
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: kind anywhere or something like that, then culminating in the cage.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: If that's a third one. Yeah, I don't know that this.
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I'm still defense on whether this even needs three matches,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, obviously the next match can't just be a
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: regular one on one, right, So I would probably And
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: they've done the last man's standing thing already. SE's done
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: that himself already. He did that with shins k Knakomoro
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: when he was world champion. So if they got to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: put it, if they have to slap a gimmick on
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the next match, I would say false count anywhere.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, hopefully they just continue to book these guys
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: together and book it.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: A lot of people just I guess forgot that seth
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Rawlins is the Beast Slayer after all. So yeah, but
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed the match.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Oh sidebar I forgot and Doune passed away in twenty
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: twenty rest in peace.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I did not realize that and also don't mean to laugh.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: I'll have to take that out and post show production.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: But like the man did have he was he was
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: legitimately a dope rapper and he had die hard, dedicated
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: ass fans too. But anyway, back to the match, Doyle,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: what were your thoughts?
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, not a whole lot to add.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's surprised the hell out of me. I thought
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: for shore bron To would go over. You know, I
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: think they, I.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Think they guess they tried to mitigate the loss with
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the stomp and the super stomp and the steps and
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: getting up after.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: But uh, you know, if you're in a.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Book a monster, they gotta win matches, you know, because
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: if they lose too much, they stop being.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: A monster, and then that's usually all all she wrote.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: You know, you can only it's hard. It's hard.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It's hard to get get the momentum up for that,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: and then it's hard to keep it up. You know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: look at Stroman, He's gigantic and they were booking him
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: like a monster, but he's just lost out damnity match
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: is it's not you know who's afraid of Bronze Droman anymore?
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: That we were just talking about.
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well especially O Mas Jesus. Yeah, but packed to
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: Bronston reads gear can we not get?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what would be flattering on
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: on that kind of body, but something that is like
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: something like what Otis wears, Like he could still do
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the singlet, but like have some some leg, yeah, coverage,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: a little more bam bam, bigelow, a little less my
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: grandmother's bathing suit, you know, uh.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he definitely he needs some leg
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: on that singlet for for real.
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like give him, give him pants something.
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: He looks like fucking tug boat earthquake, earthquake, He and Otis.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: He and Otis should be a fucking tag team. That'll
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: be awesome.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a good enough match, but nothing super memorable.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Otis and Bronson reed a tag team called all you
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Can Eat.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: See, then they become a comedy team.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Speaking of random of random guys, we should be thrown
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: together at tag teams.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: We were talking.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: About Apollo Cruise earlier without his without his buddy, uh
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: you know, Barry Corbin. He should be paired up now
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: with Giovanni Vinci and they should be called a tag
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: team called Nobody.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Nobody. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's how we got the
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: B Squad, right, I mean, essentially we took two guys
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Bo Dallas Michael McGill cutty, who like just two guys
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: who just couldn't really go anywhere on the main roster
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: any just nowhere, and then they became the B Squad
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: and then they end up becoming with the Miz And then.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: That's kind of like that's one of those gimmicks that
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: kind of returns every couple of years, and we haven't
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: had it for a while. Like remember that there was
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: like the Job Squad, which was like, uh, a lot
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: of old ec W guys and yeah thin it was
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: Al snow oh.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Blue Meanie, the guy who's in the very beginning of
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: our podcast.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahs I think but every couple every every every.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: Once a decade, you get you get the story the.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Group of guys that can't win a match to save
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: their lives banded together three man.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: And it might be time.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like once a decade and maybe it's
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: time for one of them.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. It's kind of like it's kind of like
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: when you're scraping the bottom of the barrel to get
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: like one last you know what I mean, Like when
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: you're when you're like in ice cream and you're scooping
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: the bottom of it trying to get a little bit
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: left to get just enough. This will do, I guess, And.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I think I think there's space for another undervalued, underappreciated
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: gimmick tag team. Lord knows they they are shipping on
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: freaking Geovanni Vincy hard ever since he kicked him out
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: of Materium for no damn reason.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: For weeks, haven't we.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: Since he lost to Apollo Cruise.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: For that, they ran vignettes for weeks.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: He came back and lost, and came back and lost again,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: and we haven't seen him since again.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Wait, and you know what's funny is if he would
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: have never have left and he would just stayed by
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Gountro's side, it would have made no difference. But like
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: he he would have still had his dignity at this point.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Like he would have he'd be in the main event
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: scenes at least, because he'd be right there.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Would be relevant, he'd be on be doing exactly now
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: he's just yeah, the guy who got lost to Apollo Cruise.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I want to know who, like who really? Who's the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: person in creative with that idea we're gonna repackage him?
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Is this all right? Cool? All right? Such first first
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: match Apollo Cruise. What's he gonna do? Lose?
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: Squashed? Not just lose like losing ten seconds?
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Wait, what why? I got damn? Did he do something wrong?
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Did he pissed somebody off? Yeah?
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: Did he write a mean tweet?
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: Is he in his each ship and learn to love it?
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Face?
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Oh well? Moving one, Match number four, the first of
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: our Crown Jewel Championship matches, this one on the women's side.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Live Morgan, the Women's World Champion taking on Nia Jacks,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: the WWE Women's Champion, and Live one and what was
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: again is a running theme of this match of this night.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: A good match, not a great match, but just a
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: good match. Obviously. You know, nia Jax dominated most of
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: the match, being the power more powerful one until Raquel
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and Dom showed up to help turn things in lives
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: favor and Live had a when I lived. But Raquel
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: had a moment where she seemingly missed her moment, her
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: timing in terms of knocking Naiajacks from the top rope
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: because Naya had Lived laid out for the Annihilator ready
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: to drop her, and then arms up distracting the referee,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and it seemed like four or five seconds went by
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: before Raquel went up and kicked an eye in the face.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: So now I was just sitting up there on the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: top rope for no fucking reason and just waiting for
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: Raquel to come get her hum and then which again ultimately,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: like I said, led to Live hitting the oblivion getting
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: to win. I don't know really much to say about
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: this match.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: It every there were so many hands involved in this,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: you know, there's so much shine.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: It's it's over.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think it made it not so interesting.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: Is you scientifically?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Her fake cash in moment as well?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: Again that two heel. You know, women who both have
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: lackeys of some kind. I mean it's it's like who's
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: the bigger heel out of this and who's gonna go
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: over there right now? And it's live, and they made
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: the right call. Uh you know, I was pretty and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: maybe Tiffany Stratton would have walked away with at least
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: the Crown Jewel Championship. But then I was I guess
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna waste that. So that's that's good. I'm
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: happy with the outcome. So now we just gotta wait
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: and see.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also waiting. Yeah, we also we gotta wait
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: see what's gonna be the next quote unquote chapter in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Tiffany Stratton's request to cash in or whatever the fuck
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: they're doing with her.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's gonna be on Naya. She's she's
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: gonna be the one.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, because the one opportunity to cash in on
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: live is pretty much seemingly passed unless she makes the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: surprise parents on raw or p l E. But yeah,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: that was another thing that was just kind of a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: wasted moment, like, Oh, I'm showing up, I'm gonna cash
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna cash in. Nya looks at her, Is you
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: doing a bitch?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Oh? Nothing?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing like okay, like you've gone to that well
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: one times.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like Nia's in ring ability has gotten
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: better since she's been back. Like I think I brought
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: this up before without question, Yeah she did. She did
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Samoa drop to like Live and I thought she was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: killed the damn woman, but it was nice. So yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: normally like cringe when you see Naiad moves like that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: because you're like, oh my god, she's gonna kill her.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: But no, she's gotten far better since her return.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: Live used to be a fucking joke.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Also, yeah, absolutely she is.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: She's proved leaps and bounds as well.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely credits to both of these women, the fact
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: that it speaks to how much they both improved and
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: the fact that they were trusted to carry a match
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: with this quote unquote caliber.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, match of this caliber and they put it
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: on them too.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just a handful of like a few
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: years ago, if you would have asked us, you know,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: kind of our first like an episode, we've been like, yeah, no,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: these two aren't, you know what I mean? Like it
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: just shows like they were treading water for a while,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: and you know, Naya did get like go but then
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: brought back. But you know, Live was able to continue
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: trading water and not you know, get fired.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: But honestly, you know, I remember when she was feuding
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: with Ronda Ramsey or whatever, and she would like she
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: would only win by fluke something, you know, like.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when she had her when she was the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: SmackDown Women's Champion. Yeah, when she cashed in the money
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: in the bank briefcase.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: But like now she's like, uh, legit, you know, like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: taking seriously. You know, it's nice to see you know,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: two of the two of them clearly have worked their
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: asses off. Yeah, you know, it's they decided to see
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: them get a chance to show it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean a lot of a lot of bad stories.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Somebody a good one.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I think Riha getting injured, not not recently. I met
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: before when Ria got injured and had to give up
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: her title, that's when it really they had that window
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: to catapult Live because that definitely wasn't in the plans.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: You know, look what happened. But I think I think,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: you know, Live, there's something up. I think Live is
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: probably going to destroy Judgment Day from the inside, you know,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: take everything from you, you know, take you know, she's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: already gotten Damian priest out. She's already gotten Rhea out,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: she's already gotten the world title. Like now she has
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Dirty down. But then, you know, we even seen Tiffany
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Stratton asked saying, you know something about getting a little
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: dirty down this week on RAW. I really think maybe
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Live is going to try to destroy Judgment Day from
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: inside out and then that could be like a big
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: face turn for her. But maybe he's a little further
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: down the that's a long for you know what I mean,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Like that's a long work.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe so, But I don't know that she
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: has much reason to because, as she said on Monday
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: on RAW this past Monday before they were interrupted, the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: revenge stor is over. She's now moving on to the
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Live Morgan World Tour, as she called it. So there's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: definitely probably again props to them for seizing this opportunity
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: because you know, whether we were kind of aware of
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: it or not, there has really been a window for
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: a good chunk of this year for another woman to
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: step up and make herself the main eventer on the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: level of the top women in the division.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: Because well, I mean, look at.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: Are out right, That's exactly where I'm going with it. Yeah,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Becky Lynch's Simi is out indefinitely. Ria has been on
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: the shelf injured, off and on throughout the year. Charlotte
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Flair has been out injured, Bianca is down in the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: tag team division, and those are yeah, Oscar is out injured. Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: So I mean those are like main your top five
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: names right there, probably in the women's division, all in
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: and out or in various states of being out of
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the main event picture right now. So it's prime opportunity
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: for another woman to step up. And I think the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: one that's probably done that the best has been Naya
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Jacks with her title run. I think she's done it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the best. But Live is yeah, right behind her, with
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: her character development and the work she's been putting in.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Any other thoughts on this one.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: No, I mean I pretty much. I don't know. I
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: think I said everything I need to say about this match.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: I think, well, I'll talk about it nauseum.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: I felt Live looked like the gimp from pulp fiction
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: a little bit.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And I the only one, the only the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: only female who.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: Doesn't have to change her gear to go work in
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: Tawdy Arabia.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: She had to much.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: She had some cool fabric or something though. The way
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: the light was hitting that thing, yeah, that was cool
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: as ship. Yeah, but they need to get this tiffany
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: thing fucking just cash in and get it fucking over
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: with him.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: So I'm so.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Like, I find her very entertaining, I really do, but
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just sick to death of every fucking match Denia
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Jackson in you get a fake Tiffy cash and it's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: just like, enough already, just do it, get it over with.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Uh, you get off the pot man.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: You don't like the teas, you don't like the just
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: the tip teas man. See it's bothering you.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: You can use a man for so long.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I know this guy, he's like, just do it already,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: just cash it in.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the only thing that was changed on
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Nia's outfit is usually the parts that are normally rather
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: sheer or see through were covered. At this point, cover
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: all your skin.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Throw rocks at you there. You know. We go to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: the stands and we get the nachos and we get
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: the box of rocks. It comes hand in hand. If
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: they show a skin, a little bit of ankle, we
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: tossed the rocks in.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Saudi's don't know what to do with that much woman.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, next match was Kevin Owens versus Randy Yorton, and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: the match that was not a match, that never became
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: a match because the bell was never wrung. It just
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: came out and immediately on site action hands scrapping, toe
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to toe, everybody trying to break them up. Nobody successful.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Referee ate a nice stunner for his efforts, so fuck
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: We ain't even worried about a match.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Adam Pearson called has come out there try to break
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: them up, and once again Adam Pierce punk ass eight
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: r KO for it. Do notice that he laid out
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: one finger on nick All. This because they don't want
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: them problems. Nick All, this like, I ain't the motherfucking
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: one bitch. I was active a year and a half ago.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Run upon me if you want to, you can get
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: this work. And then yeah, nothing ever happened. It concluded
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: with outside the ring with Kevin Owhens delivering an elbow
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: drop to Randy Orton through a table and that was it.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: So thoughts on this soul kerk fluffle, Doyle.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: You know, honestly I thought this was a fine way
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 6: to do it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it heats up the few without anyone having
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: to take a loss, and it kind of gives the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: show some kind of shock factor, if you will, because
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: there certainly hadn't been any up until this point, and there.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: Wouldn't be any after this point. Really, I just.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Had, you know, an interesting way to change things up
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit, and I don't I didn't mind it.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: I do find it.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Interesting that the citizens of a theocracy chanting. You've got
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: your rules and your religions all designed to keep you safe,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Trevannio and theve soon find out what you're saying. But yeah,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't have a problem with this. I certainly wouldn't
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: want to see this every week, you know, but uh,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: once in a while.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: I don't mind. Uh a fight breaking up before the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: mass can even.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Start and no contest, and it, you know, heats everything
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: up and without anyone having to lose, it just keeps on.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, it made sense here for to go
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: down this way. Wayne, What were your thoughts on this one?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Now? A few weeks ago, what did Triple H tell
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: or In? You know, he was doing this to protect him.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: He was he was doing to protect or In from
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Ko and clearly we saw it. He took out Orton.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: He's I feel like Orton's gonna be written off for
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: a few weeks. I mean there was a great spot,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: you know, the you know, the diving elbow off the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: stairs and then the big spot at the end. You know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: KO taken Orton out. But this is gonna leave Ko
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: open to like focus on Cody Rhads for a while.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: And you know, another thing that sat with me, as
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Triple H said to him, is you know you should
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: get some protection, like, you know, not a not a condom,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: not a rubber, you know. I think the protection that
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: he was talking about was maybe you need some muscle.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if down the line we ever
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: see Orton in another stable again, I don't even know
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: who I could even think of that could be in
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: a stable with him. But you know, I'm trying to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: be open minded about Orton and his last few years,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: maybe on the roster and how he wants to end it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Maybe not being in the ring so much, uh and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: having a stable could be easier for him a work schedule.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: But uh, I mean this feud isn't over. Yeah, that's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: his later chair, Like, yeah, he's gonna need some muscle,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: and having muscle caused, you know, being in a stable.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: He doesn't have to He could be there every night,
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: but he doesn't have to be in the ring every night,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: and that's the longevity. Extending the longevity of Orton's career
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: for a couple more years, then I'm go. I'm all
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: for it, and him helped put over maybe some new guys.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: But I have no idea right now off the top
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: of my head who I can even remotely think of
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: being in a stable with him. But uh, yeah, this
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: feud is not over or it's gonna get his looking
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: back at some point, I don't know when, but don't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: expect it on SmackDown or you know coming they're on
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: SmackDown right or in any yeah, smack don't expect them
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: on SmackDown this week. I would just, you know, expect
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: him out indefinitely. Maybe Ko gets a fine or a suspension,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but he's gonna be gone for Cody
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: that's next, because we're keeping Cody away from the Bloodline
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: as far away as possible. And a side note, this morning,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: I saw another This is another one of those wrestling
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: news that I saw that I kind of like threw
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: up my mouth a little bit. You know, if if
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: the Rock doesn't plan to wrestle next year in Vegas WrestleMania,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: they are thinking of doing a Roman Reigns and Cody
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Roads three and and I threw up my mouth a
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: little bit because I don't want to see that, especially
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: now the Revolt. Well, the roles would be reversed. You know,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Rhodes would be going into wrestling as the champion and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: the underdog Roman Reigns. What no, thank you?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That would be another case of not everything needs
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to be a trilogy.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not paying six grand for tickets, by the way,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: expensive fucking tickets to go see that act.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: Not everything needs to be a trilogy.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I don't even know where you find the story to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: make that one happen again. Sometimes when the moment happens
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: and the moment is great, just let the moment stay
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: the moment. Don't always try to go back to the well.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: I should have learned that lesson from rock Hogan. It
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: was a moment, know what nobody talks about rock Hogan too.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Backlash fucking sucked.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Oh it ended with the lights going off, and you.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Know less nobody cared about it. It was bad. The
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: moment was the first one. Now you got lucky in
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: that you were able to get two moments out of
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Cody and Roman. Don't go back to the well the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: third time.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: Didn't they do that with Daniel Brian? Maybe go to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: the wall twice with him for something like that, Maybe
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: like not succeeding with the title and then coming back
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: and finally succeeding.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: Hmmmm, I don't know, Daniel Brian. Everybody talks about Yesselmania.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yesselmania.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I remember, it's the one everybody talks about. Anything after
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: that is secondary m.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's all I got for this match.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, obviously, Yeah, the storyline is definitely going to continue,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: and we'll see where it goes from here. I wonder
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: I think there may be a just think possibility that
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Randy doesn't get his proper look back on Kevin Owens.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: Like, do you think there's a world where Kevin Owens
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: turns Randy bad?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Also you read my mind again, Yep, that's what I
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: was thinking, like Randy could Obviously they're going to have
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: an actual match, Yeah, I don't know if it's one
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: of these things like a classic feud where the face
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: goes over the heel in the end. There's probably more
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: likely because, like you said, Cody's gonna factor into this
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: at some point, and maybe Kevin does turn excuse me,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: does turn Randy. Not that they become both allies against him,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: like and Cody's into two on one fight, But maybe
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Kevin just manipulates Randy Orton enough to make Randy Orton
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: give into his more sinister thoughts or his more healish tendencies,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: and he turns from seeing Kevin Owens as the enemy
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: to now seeing Randy Yward I mean, now seeing Cody
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: as the enemy. The ship that Kevin O was saying
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: starts to make sense to Randy, and now he has
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: to deal with Cody, has to deal with the both
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: of them.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: But they're not exactly allied together against them.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: They just both want that title, or they both want
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: to take him out individually, like two guys with the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: same you know, with the same endgame, with the same goal.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: I think that could be a very real possibility.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Were you gonna expand on that, Doyle, do you have anything?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Moving on to match number six, we had our triple
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Threat match for the WWE United States Championship, La Knight
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: defending against Andrade and Carmelo Hayes, which side note United
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: States Championship match being the second to last match on
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: the p L. Yeah yeah, w w okay, we see
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: you mm hmm. And then of course y'all do this,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: and then y'all ruin it by keeping the dad damn
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: title on LA Night. Well, I won't say ruined it.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: It made sense. I guess that he was going to
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: retain the title. It just feels bad that you did
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: all this investment in Andre Da and Carmelo Hayes, this
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: whole Best of seventh series, which y'all flubbed the seventh
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: match in order to make this triple threat happen. God,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: just to keep the title on l A Night. You
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: basically just built these guys up just to bury the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: both of them to l A Knight.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: Damn that Now that you brought that up and I'm
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: looking at it on broad paper like somebody pitched that
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: weeks ago. It was like, Yeah, we're just gonna do
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: this and then this, and then guess what, and then
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: we're gonna.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: Do this, and then they're gonna lose it.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: Then we're gonna bury a bow that crowd it. No,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: it'll be fucking hilarious.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Do it? He'll approve of it.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Right, like like I get, And I wonder at some
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: point are they saying it? Are people saying it like
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: on the micro stuff to try to convince themselves or
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: is it really a thing?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: Because people keep saying l A.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Knights as hot as he's ever been, He's just as
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: hot as he's always been, hasn't lost a step.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: And then to me, I'm exactly exactly.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: I'm like, is he though It's like I'm not giving
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: you a definitive answer right away. It's just like, let
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: me because.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I because is he still over with fans? Yes, obviously
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: he still gets a good pop. Yeah, but he ain't
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: as hot as he was, say this time last year, No,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: like Jay Uso is what y'all thought l A.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: Knight was gonna be.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jada won with all the white hot momentum with
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: no sign of it slowing down. Now granted we thought
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: that about l A. Night last year. Yeah, there was
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: no sign of it slowing down, but m M yeah.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: It felt la and I always felt like he was
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: living on a borrow time as you know, Like to
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: me anyway, it just felt like this guy's there's no
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: way this guy's going to keep it up. Not necessarily
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: because of anything he did or didn't do, it, just
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: he didn't seem like a character that was gonna prosper
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: for a long extended period of time.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't feel built for the long term. Yes,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: that's it. He seemed like it was a it was
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: a moment everybody jumped on and now everybody's like, Okay,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: it's still it's still fun, but uh think I'm ready
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: to look at something else.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Well that's how I'm kind of feeling with Cody Rhodes.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, yeah, a lot of people are.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, I know, it's when everybody wants to
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: fucking make RIB, but now we've all had the McRib
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks and we're kind of want
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: something else now.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I view Cody Roads is a little bit different, just
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: because I think he's because of what came before Cody,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: like such an epic title reign as what Roman Reigns had,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Like nothing's going to measure up to that. I think
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: everybody was people. I think people went into Cody's title
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: reign with too high of expectations that Cody was going
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to be just as big as Roaming, just as hot
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: as Roman and at that level was going to be
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: maintained and it was impossible, like nothing was going to
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: do that, nothing was going to keep was gonna match that.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: No matter, there's no literally nobody on the roster that's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: gonna match that. Nobody in the pass. You could put
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: the title on the rock, you could bring back Stone,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: a Prime, Stone Cold, Steve Auston, none of them is
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: going to match what Roman's title reign was. So there
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: was always going to be a bit of a step down,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: a bit of a letdown from what that was, and
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: people just are just reluctant to accept that. Overall, I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: think Cody's title reign has been pretty solid so far.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Granted they've treaded water a little bit, but he's had
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: good matches. He still had a phenomenal match with aj Styles,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: He had a good story told telling match with Kevin Owens.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: He just will get to it, you know, his match
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: with Gun so that he's had and now we're probably
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: just now starting to get into what's going to be
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: his first major feud of his title reign. And maybe
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that's been missing is that so far
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: he's just been a defending champion, but he hasn't had
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: that major storyline feud yet and we're getting into that,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: so you know, there's still I'm not pulling the plug
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: on Cody Run yet, La, and I don't know, the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: other hand, seems like it was a build up. He
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: had this the United States Championship, which has been pretty
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: squandered for a long period of time, especially when you
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: compare it to the end Continental Championship and what Gunter
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: did for that title. We were looking for La Knight
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: to be the guy to finally elevate and build up
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: the United States Championship, like put it on a big
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: name and let him be the guy that builds it up.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: And so far that has yet to happen, because one,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: we've had very few title defenses and he hasn't done much.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Not to mention his own white hot momentum that seemed
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to cool off a bit, and then you finally get
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: to a moment like this where the build up has
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: been in his two competitors, and then y'all just serve
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: him up to him.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: You don't think he's been a better workhorse with that
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: title than Logan Paul was.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: I'm a better workhorse with logan.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: That's what I mean, Like, that's what he's like. You
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: you mentioned with the what Cody Rhodes was coming off of, Right,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: he was coming off of Roman Reigns title run. That's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: that's what he was. That's what that title was coming
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: off of. Well, this one was coming off of a
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: guy who didn't really be much of a work horse.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: I held it for like six months and defended it twice.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Exactly, and Ela Knight, you know, regardless, but he's he
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: has been defending it, and that's what we fucking need.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: We need somebody defending their titles. We need a workhorse title.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: And it's just not it's just being outshined on the roster.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: That's all.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: How many title defenses says La Knight had since he
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: won it though.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: All right, here we go, now you're gonna make me
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: look l A Knight Unite Sies Champions.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: I think this one, I think this match is maybe
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: like his third or fourth h and this is maybe
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the most noteworthy one he's had. Like he's had title defense.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not s he's not defending it, but none of
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: them have been anything to really write home about or
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: anything of note, Like even his appearances on SmackDown has
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: just been like him showing up. It hasn't been anything
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: really focused around. You can almost forget the fact that
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: he's the US Championship for much of his title run,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: unless there's like an actual match where he's defending it.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: But there have been definitely episodes of SmackDown where he's
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: just shown up and had nothing, and whatever he's done
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: on the show has had nothing to do with the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: fact that he's the United States Champion. It has been
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: l A Knight for the sake of La Knight.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Listen to this article, Ellien, Yeah, it kind of mentions
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: what we were talking about is La Knight's third successful
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: title defense. He's had defeated Santos Escobar and Dowig Kaiser.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: He had defended the title twice to one of those
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: championship retentions from Logan was a disqualification victory.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Oh weird. Yeah, yeah, I meant lackluster as well. Far
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: more lackluster than Cody's if you want to compare the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: two by far.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: But the fact that I have to look it up
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: it tells you anything. I mean, it's just if I
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: can't remember it off the top of my head. Of
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: a few days had recently that has been memorable. Yeah,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: but at least in this match, he gave his opponents, like,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: you know, opportunity to shine. I mean, I like trible
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: threat matches. I think trible threat matches are always fun. Uh,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, just like every time you were play it
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: in a video game, it was always fun breaking up
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: the pins and stuff. You know. It's the fact that
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: you could lose it any second and not even get pinned.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: And sometimes it's an easy way for them to like
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know, we've seen it before where it's kind
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: of protecting up a wrestler who is losing that title
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: but is going for a higher title, like a world title.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: I've seen that before where they've been protected in triple
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: threats like that, like, oh, well they lost their title,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: they weren't pinned, but now they're focused on the world title. Yeah.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: But do you think Andrade or Carmela Hayes is ready
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: to be the US Champion?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I think I said Carmelo Hayes could have been.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: That's why I predicted. I bet I was happy with
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: who we got. Andrade is just unfortunately it's just not there.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, his promos are awful. It's just I can
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: he needs a mouthpiece, he needs Selena Vega back, just
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: joined the fucking l dude, Like you need a mouthpiece?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: No, dear God, no, don't join. Well then just like
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: at least he's doing something right now. True, he can
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: plex Alena Vega from them, Yeah, like, can we.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: Like rent her for like just like this for the promos,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: because you know, when he gives promos, they take forever.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: I can't do it, like.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate the representation, Yeah, I appreciate that. I
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: appreciate their efforts to let everybody represent themselves as they are,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: you know, culturally.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: But at some point, if you're if.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Somebody is going to be more than just a featured guy,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: if they're going to have any hope of elevating to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: the next level, yeah, they got to be able to
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: do some work on the mic.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean there was a reason, I feel like
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: for a while why they kept Dakota Kai.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: You know, she was their mouthpiece.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, y, she was the only one who could speak
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: like the most fluent of English. You know, that was
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: understandable at some point, So it worked out fine, you.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Know, absolutely, And yeah, I mean and that's The other
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: unfortunate aspect of this match is that, Yeah, the two
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: competitors l A. Knight had in it, neither one of
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: them are US title ready. As much as we want
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Carmelo Hayes to get there, and he clearly has a
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: brighter future than the other two in the match, Yeah,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: it's just not his time as of yet.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 5: A lot.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I know, I just I don't think he's
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: he's not over enough to be a US champion, or
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: he's not over enough that that putting a title on
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: him would elevate him that much more.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: You know, He's just not there. I don't think either
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: of them.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: He needs him. He either needs a mouthpiece or a
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: story to get him over both.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm ready for him and Carmelo to be done
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: with each other, and I'm ready for l A.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 7: Night to be done with all three of them. And yeah,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 7: he definitely needs to move on to a new story and.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: He also needs to if he can't do it successfully
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: in that run up the rope.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Dude, because he racked himself. Oh man, yes he did.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 6: Dude, He's gonna stop doing that. I'm sorry. Yeah, if
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 6: you if you you know, I get it. If you
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: mess it happens, you know, but it's happened like five times. Now.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: He's up, you know, while Chad Gable over here doing
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: that ship effortlessly. All wrong, right, because he's not trying
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: to clear the whole ropes in one jump. He's like
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: step step grab suplex.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm fine with that. I'm absolutely fine with that.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: You know, card Angle didn't do that ship either. Gred
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Angle did it the same way. Step step grabs suit place,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: all right, Ellie and Knight trying to run up one
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: up everybody. I'm just gonna do it in one jump
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: and freaking ripping his balls in half everything.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And and dude, you're not getting younger. I mean,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Ellie Knight is, he's not no young fresh meat. I
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: mean that man's his knees gotta hurt. I mean, that's
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: a high jump to be doing, and at some point
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: you got to modify it or you're gonna end up
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: hurting yourself. Like just years of trying to do certain moves,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: they damage your body. I mean, look at Covid. I
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: mean this man did leg drops and leg drops after
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: leg drops, and it made him shorter, Like he's literally
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: a shorter man than he ever was like, as time
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: has gone through wrestling, like the whole cocin got so
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: much shorter, and you know, I mean that just does
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: damage to your body. Maybe he's at some point maybe
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: you should like maybe I should choose another uh finisher brother,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: like maybe a shimp. You don't leg drops for you know,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: forty something years or whatever.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Granted, the one saving grace for for l A.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Knight and this one is the fact that he doesn't
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: he's not doing impact damage to himself every time he
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: does it, other than you know, your normal top rope stop.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the real risk I think he has on
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: it is he risks doing them having a major injury
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: if he watches that spot the wrong way one time,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: if he overshoots it and that leg gets caught up
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: into something wall, then he yeah, he could really tear
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: or yeah, yeah ankle or yeah if he somehow lands
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: it but he's not quite right, he goes to flip
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: somebody else and then it all goes downhill. Yeah, it's
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: it's super risky because that is the other aspect of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: that move is he's not just jumping up there himself.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: He's jumping up there while other people are in that space.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: So they need to have they that you know, not
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: claiming to be you know, some technical wrestling genius or whatever,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: but they need to be in a position to ride
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: him with enough space to land up there safely get
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: a hold of them, and then be able to and
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: then have enough stability to execute the move. So yeah,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: it's a whole lot of factors that go into pulling
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: that move off successfully.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: That to me, the reward is not worth the risk.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I absolutely agree, Like, find something else, modify it,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: or you know, just I don't know, because you got
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: to look out for your own safety and longevity of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: your career and then your opponent's safety, because that's the
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: main thing.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: You know, if you can do the.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Super cool, even dangerous move over and over and over
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: and over and over and always hit it, hit it great.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: But I don't think he can. Yeah, you're right, he
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: has not shown the ability to do that.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: I think people remember his failures at it more than
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: they remember his successful executions.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a lot of people trust the undertayer,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: giving him a fucking tonbestone that he's not gonna, like,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: you know, shatter your neck. People trust him because he's
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: he's done it. Well, he's practiced, he's you know what
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like, there were some sketchy ones when you
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: pick up guys a lot heavier than him, But you know,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: he didn't break any next exactly.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't be doing the movie anymore, right, And that's
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: why they banned moves like that for a long time.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 6: But they still allowed him to do it because he
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: could do it. He was like grandfathered in.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he and he had that cachet that he
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: can execute this safely and properly. Yeah, Like your head's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: never even going to touch the mat. It will be
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: cuffed safely between betwixt my thighs. So any other thoughts
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: on this US title match?
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it was a pretty decent match.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: I was happy with the outcome. A lot of the
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: guys got perfect opportunities to shine in some awesome moves.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: We had to see Ellie Nike at his balls destroyed
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: right on the on the top row. So yeah, pretty
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: decent match.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Any ideas on where La Night goes from here?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Dude, I have no idea. I have no idea who
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: the next opponent is for him. There's gonna be some
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: sort of tournament, and it's gonna be somebody left field,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: somebody that hasn't feuded with him yet, because.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I I really don't know.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: I just can't pinpoint a character I want to see
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: him with.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and sidebar WW is starting to go to the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: whole number one contenders thing. Well a little too much now.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: Don't you mean the number one container match?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: They going to be doing a little too much and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: now they're constantly having tournaments.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, all right, we need a challenger. We
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: don't have a storyline number one contender.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: It's like yeah, I mean, it's like me, every time
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: I'm playing two K, I'm just like, oh, I'm like
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: do a tournament mode because I don't know what I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: want to do. That's what it is. I'm just a
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: bored and it's lazy. And you know, we don't keep
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: winning lost records here like we do in AW So
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, so we gotta tournaments.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we just did two of them all
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 5: raw this Monday.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah you could. You could lose all year long and
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: then just do a tournament in December and then get
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: a title shot.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: It's just right, like like what almost happened with Larra Valcaria.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: She popped up on the main roster with some you know,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: a certain level of fanfare. Since then, she hasn't done much,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: but she's one of the last two wins number one
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: contenders match, Like, yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. That's why I thought she was gonna get it,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: because I was like, she hasn't done anything, she would
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: just get buried, but like it would make sense, just
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: an easy opponent for for Live.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, Okay, that's probably I guess that's
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: probably the route they're going to go with La Night
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: number one contender for the United States Championship.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: Hen this brings us to our main events, the.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Crown Jewel Men's Championship match between WWE Champion Cody Rose
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: and World Heavyweight Champion Gunter.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: The match that I fell asleep on twice trying to watch.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Legitimately, I don't I'm not gonna necessarily blame the match.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: I think it was more partially bad timing on MI
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: nd because I initially tried to watch it Saturday night
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: after it had aired. Yeah, I just crashed out by
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: that night because by the end of it, because I
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: was tired of shit. I had worked, then at worked
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: from eight to five, then went to the gym afterwards,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: then came home ate watched it and crashed the fuck out,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: And then I tried to watch it again today under
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: very similar circumstances, going into work for a little while,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: going to the gym, eating. All right, we put the
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: match on, and then I'm waking up and it's back
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: on the freaking Peacock home page, and like, oh shit,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: let's try this again.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: Put it back on and freaking I don't know. I'm
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: just tired as hell. But from what I did see
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: when I was finally able to watch the.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: Match itself, it was a good enough match. I don't
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: think it was as good as the unofficial match, but
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: the confrontation we got between Cody and Gunter and the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Royal Rumble when those two were the
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: last two in the rumble and then they got to
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: they went at it for like a good solid fifteen
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: minutes before Cody finally eliminated Gunter. I think that.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: Confrontation about that, Yeah, yeah, that's much better.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I think that confrontation between them was better than this
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: full fledged match that we got from them.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 5: But again it was still a good match. Again, a
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: great but just good.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I give props to them for coming up with a
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: creative finish to the match in terms of Cody going
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: for the cutter off the top rope and guns Are
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: just catching him in a sleeper and then Cody immediately
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: flipping it to get Penn Gunter's shoulders to the match.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 5: I think that was a wise finish.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: It gives Cody the win, it gives him a clean win,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't exactly make Gunster look weak by any means.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: He just got outsmarted just long enough for three count
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: and I think that was that was a proper way
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: to book this match. We didn't see any outside interference
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: from anybody, no luvercausea didn't get involved in this match
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: at all, did he?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, there's it was.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: It was a clean wall how fair fight.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah a whistle mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: I thought I thought was gonna win with interference. I surprised.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead, continue with your thoughts.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, I mean with these two, you know,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 2: there wasn't really anyway this was going to be anything
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: less than very good.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 6: You know, I think the match of the show by far.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like I said, I thought was gonna win
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: by Shenan against by either Ko or excuse me, Ludwig Kaiser.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: But you know it was carefully built, it was well paced.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 6: I didn't love to finish.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: Uh it was the Brett Hart rowdy Piper finished from
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: WrestleMania eight. Basically, it was kind of like, uh, Corey
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: kind of said it like seven times.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 6: It's like, okay, if you know, you know. If you
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 6: don't know, you don't need to know, So why do
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 6: we have to why?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: Like, okay, you can calm down. It was just kind
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: of sudden. I guess maybe I don't know. Did anybody
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: see the ring ceremony afterwards after.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: It where the ring didn't fit on Cody's finger?
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, Also they have super emotional during all that.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: But uh yeah, yeah they give it like I don't
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: know if liv took the wrong ring or something or what,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: But how did they fuck it up that bad? He
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: goes he can barely get it past his first knuckle.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: Then you hear triple EDGs go you might want to
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: have that resized any jams on. I don't know how
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: the hell they got it off, if they've gotten it off,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: maybe like, oh my god, I was just watching that.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Hopefully somebody has some Saudi oil long stand body get
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: that bitch off.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, small oh man.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think you might want to have that size. Yeah.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the fact that maybe Live
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: took the wrong rink because they Lives went on easy peasy.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 3: It's just like, look, I could put two fingers through
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: this one. I could fit my thumb through it.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: It was. It was a fine match, and I didn't
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: think there was much chance it wouldn't be. You know,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: you got you know, two of the best wrestlers in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: the world. Uh, but yeah, I agree.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: I did write that down specifically, drag what you said
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: about the Royal Rumble interaction being being the better.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: Interaction or whatever if you want to whatever you want
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: to call it. I thought I wish it kind of
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 6: had been a little more like that, but it was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: still very good.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: We were at that time too, We were very excited
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: to see either one of them, you know, going for
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: the gold. But at the end of the day, we
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: now look at this, we have we have them already,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: they're both champions.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on this one way.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: I I liked it.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I mean, come on, a champion versus
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: champion match. I mean I've been a Gunther Mark since
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: n X t U K man. I mean, this guy
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: has been unstoppable. I mean there's very little that has
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: been in his way that could that that has you know,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: given him the un The unstoppable was that forced me
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 3: to movable object. That's how it was thought with Gunther.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: What's who's the next point that might get that win
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: over him? He will have a very short list, I believe,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: of people who have beaten him in his career. Uh,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: you know, And it sucks that this one. It leaves
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: a sour taste in my mouth because it's by roll up,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: Like fuck, fine, fine, if that's how it is. It's
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: not by ko or whatever. I'll take it. You know,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: it's not by knockout. But whatever. It didn't it didn't
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: take three crossroads.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm glad we didn't get the knockout finished. I
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: feel like we've gotten that a lot lately.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: I was waiting for like how many crossrooads we're gonna get,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: you know, And the whole time I'm watching this, I'm like,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: they're probably gonna let Cody win. They're probably gonna, like,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: it makes sense, they're probably gonna have Cody win. But
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: what if if could you imagine if good? They're like,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: he's already like this unstoppable force, but like give him
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: that bigger ego boost. You know, man, it's one King
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: of the rings. He's won the world title. Now he's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: gonna win this one.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: I just thought they would, you know. But I think
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: they have bigger wins. Yeah, I honestly, I think they
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: have bigger plans for him, and I think it might
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: be My opinion is talk to him retiring Goldberg. I
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: feel like that's what he wants. He wants to retire.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: Somebody, does that qualify as bigger plans?
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: Bigger than winning a Saudi Belt that's only worth what
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: it is in that country, and then once you leave
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: that country then that's it.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, this might be a bit of a
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: hot take, but between the two, I would argue that
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: being the first ever crowd jewel champion is a greater
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: accomplishment than retiring fifty eight year old Goldberg.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know, dude, I don't know, because Right now
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: as we speak, Baron Koryman is updating his resume, and
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: he's the first thing on that resume is I retired
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: kurd angle. Not that you know, he was king of
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: the ring. He was money in the bank winner, and
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: I think he won like oh he andre the Giant
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: battle Royal. Right, you don't think that he's starting off
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 3: with that in his resume. No, it's a retired kurd angle.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the two kurd Angle Goldberg. There's levels
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. Aimed at Warren's, you know,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: bragging about I retired, Yeah, kurd Ankle, even if it
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: was well past his prime kurd Ankle. Well, I would
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: still think that over Goldberg.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, Google, how old is Goldberg? Fifty seven? I retired
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: fifty seven year old Goldberg?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Right, and his one in a match that's already been
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: called his final match, his farewell match. So you don't
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: even really get to brag about retiring him because he
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: was retiring, whether he win or lost.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Damn, my gotta take all the fucking steam out of this,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: out of Goldberg's retirement match, just tune them the pieces.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: I can't do not wait for our review of that
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: fucking match now, like whoever it is, whether it be
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Goldberg or brown Breaker or whoever.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: Well, honestly, if we're going to go there and talk
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: about that and it's it's gonna be, you know, Goldberg's
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: final match, Let the man go out with a dub.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: Just let him, let him have his win, let him
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: go out the way fans remember him. Let him go
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: in there, have a little quick five minute match, Let
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: him get his squash, spear, jackhammer.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 5: And let him celebrate.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: I know the old adages, you know in wrestlers, you
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: go out on your back, you know, to pass it
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: on to the next generation. We're two generations removed from
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: fucking two or three generations removed from Goldberg. So he
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: ain't passing, he ain't got ship left to pass on.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: So just let the fans celebrate him, let him have
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: his moment, and then go away. I don't I don't
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: mean to say it as harshly as that, but.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: With it, take your hall of famering and get out
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: of it.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: Just be done with it.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: Never come back.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: I don't need to see them try to make me
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: think that Goldberg has a legitimate chance of beating especially
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: some the caliber of Gunter right now, Like, don't gass
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: me up, don't don't don't bullshit me, don't play in
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: my face like that, you know what.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Like, I feel like your hate for Goldberg is as
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: much as Doyle's hate for brown Breaker. I really hope
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: those two wrestlers interact with each other, just so I
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: can hear you two just tear see.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: The thing though, I don't. I don't hate Goldberg. I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: don't have any hatred for Goldberg. I was the WCW
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: guy during the Monday Night Wars. I watched his streak
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: and was therefore it and saw all of it like
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: I was. I was, you know, on the Goldberg train
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: in his prime. It's just that we are so far
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: removed from his prime. Yeah that was twenty five years ago.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel the same way about right.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: I'm also pushing thirty almost like we don't need to
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: try to gass this guy up like he's still that dude.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: I feel the same way about it.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 5: He's just not.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: He's nostalgia cool. And again, he never had like this long,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: amazing career built on all these classic matches, And that's fine,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: that's totally fine. He had a thing. It worked for him.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: It worked extremely well for him. He rode that thing
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: to massive success. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: other wrestlers who would kill to be able to do
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: what Goldberg did me And all I gotta do is
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: come out here each week, squash the dude in five minutes,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: and I'll ride this ship to the top and be
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: on the cover of video games magazines and all types
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: of other shit.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy's name is right back. That's that's who
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: wanted that treatment. That's who wanted that treatment.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, like, I have no hate it
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: all for Goldberg, but just let it, let it rest,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: Let it rest, Like just at this point again, don't
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: try to don't try to gasp me up into thinking
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: he's more than what he is. It's like trying to
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: bring back Bob Backland and hit a submission match and
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: make me think he stands a chance like no.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: Cross Face Chicken Wing. You know what I did enjoy though,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: on rall this Monday, how humble Gunther was to to
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: losing to Cody Rhodes. I mean, why not, You're losing
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: to another world champion, Like, okay, you know it's not
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: like you're losing a but you still got your title.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah anything, Yeah, exactly, he just and it's on a
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: roll up too. And yeah, Kaiser didn't look too happy
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: when when Gunther was trying to humble him. You know,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: he didn't. He didn't seem too happy about that.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: But what the fuck he gonna du damn it? He
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: lost the Shamus I know.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he did bring that up.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I did like the moment that Gunter
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: did have after the match where he did but grudually
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: he finally shake Cody's hand and they had a few
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: words with him where you obviously you can't not reading
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: your list, but it seemed like he basically said you
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: were the better man. You got me this time, basically
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: almost like saying like this, We're gonna have a match again,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: and I promise you it won't go like this, like
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: you won't get this be so lucky next time.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: So next time I'm not gonna wrestle with tit on,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: then you won't have.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: To roll me up, Doyle john Man, was your thoughts
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: on this match? Where were you at on it? Oh?
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: I mean, I thought it was good. It was kind
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: of I don't really I think I said all my
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: peace about it.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: I think I can remember if you were trying, if
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: you share your thoughts, he had already or not, Okay,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: he may have. We kind of got sidebarre and sorry, fine,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: that's okay, It's fine. Yeah, I mean I guess that
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: pretty much concludes it for the pay per viewers or
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: the p L itself. You know again, good matches. I
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: don't think any of them were great or really standouts.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Nothing that we're going to be talking about, you know,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: past this show itself and the Crown Jewel belts are
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: in behind glass in Saudi Arabia where they shall remain.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Didn't even didn't couldn't even be bothered to bring it out,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: bring her out for raw on Monday, which was still
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia. Yeah right, I was like, no, I'm good.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: I got the ring, so she lived at least tested
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: used at his weapon now right, Like oh yeah, she's
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: got to clock somebody.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: Shoes.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: But that belt on live was like huge, Oh my god,
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: how the heck cause she hold up both those titles. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: oh my god. I mean, I'm not gonna play a
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: bumper for it or anything. I was looking at like
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: just a couple of things, like in the news for wrestling. Uh,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: we did talk about who got let go right recently?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: That was Teagan Knocks, Indie Heartwell and uh.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: Who else?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: O God the Ready?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: Also, Netflix has requested three names to be on Raw
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. They want Sampunk, they want Cody Rhodes,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: and they want Roman Reigns. Who wouldn't Yeah, at least
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: give me three big names that for some who's your
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: big three? Then for SmackDown Cody Rhoads and Roman Reigns
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: are on Raw? Who your three big SmackDown names?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Well before we jump to that part, yeah, Given in
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: their requests, I don't know, are they requesting it that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: those guys be moved over to the raw roster or
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: yah wanting appearances by them?
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it says that they want to move to the roster.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: They requested top talent from the men's roster. No women though,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: Kind of asocialistic.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Like you would think it's like I want
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: these three guys in like these three women. But no,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: not even not even one woman, not two guys in
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: one moment. That nothing.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: Wow, Well I think I can well if if well,
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: for one, I don't think that they're they're gonna get
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: all three.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 5: I just don't think that's gonna happen. I think they
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: may get two.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I could see Punk staying on Raw, and I could
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: see Cody possibly moving to Raw. Well, I could see
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: I could definitely see Cody moving to Raw with the
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: w WE Championship. Which if that's the case, then Gutter
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: is clearly going to go to smack Down with the
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: World Heavyweight Championship. Right, that's a swap I can see happening.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: That would kind of bring a little bit more for.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Cody to stay on SmackDown, Roman to go to Raw
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: with and get away from the blood Line.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would make.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, I guess if Roman is going to be
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: just you know, like I don't think that would it
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't affect the few with the Rock, But again with
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: the Rock being a part time or then what does
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Roman do when Rock's not on m HM, Like who's
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: he feud with them? Like is he just going to
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: be back to just being trivel chief Roman just having
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: random fuse with people, Like I don't know if that's
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: there's much interest in that. I don't know if we
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: can ever see Roman outside of the Bloodline again, Like
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: once this bloodline thing is over with. He's pretty much
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: just gonna he's gonna be in like featured act territory.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's gonna go to part He's gonna be status.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So you guys remember back in twenty eighteen when
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 3: we had that terrible Crown Jewel match with Shawn Michaels
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: and Triple A's versus the Brothers of Destruction Canaan Undertaker.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was gone, it.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: Was released recently. But how much do you think they
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 3: got Shawn Michaels to come out of retirement from twenty ten?
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: How much money, saudy money do you think it took.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: For him to.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking. I was thinking five million.
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: Now it's lower, but it is in the millions three
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: three three thirty three million dollars for him to, like,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: after being retired for eight years, to give us that
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: god awful I'll never forget bald Shawn Michaelsh.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 6: Someone would pay me three million dollars.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: So somebody pay you three million to shave your head
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 3: and then yeah, yeah, you gotta shave your head though that's.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 6: Also part of maybe not so much.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: That's part of the deal. Oh man, Yeah, I remember,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: like I wasn't excited because I was. I thought then
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: already it was too late. I was like, no, it's
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: too it's too like he left on a perfect note
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: like don't don't And I didn't think cainan Undertaker brought
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: anything really to the table for that match, and.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: Didn't somebody get can cost like almost immediately?
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it was triple h she got well,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: he pulled something, he got injured, and Cane's mask came
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: off and Undertaker cut It was a go back and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: watch it if you've never seen it. People who are listening, like,
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: go back and watch it, peeps. It is a god
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: awful match, and it's right up there with like Goldberg
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: versus Undertaker and Saudi, like this is Saudi matches just
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 3: sometimes just oh you know.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: What, that might be the match where Undertaker gets his
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: bell wrong almost immediately.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah yeah.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: Or is that the one where Goldberg I get my
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: bad Undertaker Saudi matches confused?
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: Or is that the one where Goldberg like head butted
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: the door and can cuss himself before he went out
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: to the ring was bleeding.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 6: Didn't he punch through a limo window once?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: They didn't swap out the.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: Glass for sugar glass. Again, he legitmately like lacerated himself and.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: Ah mm hmm w c W saving my wherever they can, right.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: Well, he was never supposed to punch out the I
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: don't think he was never supposed to punch out the
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: glass in the first place.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 5: And he just got caught up in the moment.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it might be.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 5: The moment.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 6: Uh, it's all I got, man. I mean, do you
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: guys want to trade?
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: Will plug anything?
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: Nothing to plug this time around. Just as always, you
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: can find us, find me in the Discord and we
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: do have our Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash PCW podcast.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Doyle, what do you gotta plug?
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just you know, the Discord giving dread the
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: finger by accident and like the Facebook page.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: And for me, I run the Twitter page.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: So and I'm also in the discord formerly known as Twitter,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 6: yes x.
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: But now I also I have a personal Facebook page,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: so now people can like find me on Facebook. I'm
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm gonna open up my social circle just
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: a little bit and I'm gonna find some wrestling fans.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: And I actually started like I was like, oh shit,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 3: like I gotta be friends of our own page. So
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: I started going on our page. Uh no, it's cool.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 3: It's nice to be back into social media and like
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: the wrestling community. I get excited around you know, pl
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: E time, So find us there. I know we do
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 3: got some reviews that two came in recently to five
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: Star ones that came in. I didn't grab the user names,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: but they're friends of mine from high school and and
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: her son, so there. They watched the p l E
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: with me recently and they were like, you got a podcast.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, about wrestling, Like about wrestling. I'm like, yeah,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 3: it's no big deal, Like you subscribe, okay, five Stars,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 3: give it or get the hell out of my house.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: So uh no, just more and more people get to
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: know about our show, and uh I, you know, even
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: after taking a break, I'm just glad to be like
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: back into the rhythm of things. Like all I want
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: to do now is just like talk about wrestling and podcasts.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: So there might actually be either I want to either
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: squeeze and maybe an interview with somebody, or maybe we'll
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: just do an open mic and just shoot the ship
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: and talk about how awesome Goldberg is.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 6: That.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: Sign me up?
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: All right, yeah, dude, we can just like tear apart
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: Goldberg and then we'll just tear apart some bron breaker
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: and I'll tear a part of Rye back and it'll
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: be great. We'll get blocked by all three of them,
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: the block PCW forever. So all right, that said, uh.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 6: De l.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 5: Bye, you are the world's dumbest.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: Sign up a bit.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: The fact that day in and day out for almost
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: six years, I improved everybody in the world that I
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: am the best on this microphone.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: In that break even in commentary, nobody can touch me.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: You are not cubly war.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: Because the street Puppets and we watched the stuff your.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: Talk about, your songs, talk about John three.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 6: Sixteen Homstead three sixteen says, I.
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Just whipped your ass.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you something, Brother.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Far Rock, who.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 3: New day.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: The Queen Praise to the top o year, my true
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: man this year, welcome to the copan Owen Show.
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: Lately he just hasn't been Harry Usy.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: Because I'm the this.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: Oh so.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 6: Those rotten bastards.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 3: Bye bye. B's