Latest / The Breakfast Club / Breakfast Club Classic: Jill Scott Talks Writing Mature Lyrics, Making ‘Big Areola Music’ And More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Morning.
- 0:00Speaker 2: Everybody's j n V, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We
- 0:04Speaker 2: are the breakfast club Lawnla Roses here and we got
- 0:06Speaker 2: a special guest.
- 0:07Speaker 1: In the building, legend that icon has returned. The blessings
- 0:10Speaker 1: with her presents once again, Ladies and.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Gentlemen, Jill Scott's back.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Welcome. How you feeling? How do you feel? Miss Jill?
- 0:18Speaker 4: Excited? Excited?
- 0:20Speaker 3: First, I'm in a decade, ten years, That's what I hear.
- 0:24Speaker 4: Yes, sir By the way.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I love the way you release music because it feels
- 0:28Speaker 1: like you release music when you feel like you want to,
- 0:30Speaker 1: when the spirit moves you.
- 0:32Speaker 3: How do you know when it's the right time to
- 0:34Speaker 3: release music?
- 0:35Speaker 5: Because I have too much and then I it lets
- 0:40Speaker 5: me relax when it's not finished. I keep tweaking, touching, touching, tweaking,
- 0:45Speaker 5: finding new flavors, seasonings, musicians, producers, and when it's done,
- 0:51Speaker 5: it leaves me alone and then I can just listen.
- 0:53Speaker 5: And I have so much that I could just listen to.
- 0:56Speaker 5: I knew I was done. I was like, Okay, now
- 0:59Speaker 5: I can create.
- 1:00Speaker 2: So people would assume that you stopped recording for a
- 1:02Speaker 2: little bit and then you just started recording recently, But
- 1:04Speaker 2: you've been recording this whole time.
- 1:06Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't stop.
- 1:08Speaker 5: It's gonna show up. I mean, what are you gonna do?
- 1:11Speaker 5: So I do record, but I don't. I just go
- 1:14Speaker 5: when I feel like it or for no intention, just
- 1:19Speaker 5: because I have to get it out. Other than that,
- 1:21Speaker 5: you know, it's not like I'm thinking about an album
- 1:23Speaker 5: until it's done.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Are you like a comedian, Like you know, comedians always
- 1:26Speaker 1: say they gotta stop and live a little life before
- 1:29Speaker 1: they get back on the stage.
- 1:30Speaker 3: Are you like that?
- 1:31Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah.
- 1:32Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta make dinner. I gotta go grocery shopping.
- 1:35Speaker 5: I gotta see my mom. I gotta have her put
- 1:38Speaker 5: me in my place a little bit, you know, raise my.
- 1:40Speaker 4: Kid, do stuff. Other than that, what are we talking about?
- 1:44Speaker 6: I saw you talking about when you took the time
- 1:46Speaker 6: off and how intentional you are with just being a
- 1:49Speaker 6: mom in that time that you took off, and then
- 1:51Speaker 6: explain it to your son about like why you got
- 1:53Speaker 6: to get back to work and teaching him that how
- 1:54Speaker 6: has it been down that you're back out on the
- 1:56Speaker 6: road and you're doing all these things.
- 1:57Speaker 7: And getting back into the swing of things.
- 1:59Speaker 5: Well, he's sixteen now, and I didn't have to explain
- 2:02Speaker 5: anything to him. He knew he was in the studio
- 2:04Speaker 5: with me. You know, he's the one that suggested j I. D.
- 2:09Speaker 5: He's the one that suggested Tiara Wack. You know, he's
- 2:12Speaker 5: been a part of the whole process.
- 2:14Speaker 7: So you got to work an R.
- 2:16Speaker 4: He is. He is an A and R. Absolutely, We'll
- 2:18Speaker 4: see what else he can do.
- 2:20Speaker 5: Right now, he's a scuba diving, cross country uh, singing, writing.
- 2:27Speaker 4: Persons, all of that.
- 2:30Speaker 5: Yeah, thus far, I'm just watching to see, you know
- 2:33Speaker 5: what I could do.
- 2:34Speaker 4: You know how I can help out with the thing.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Does he know how special his mom is and how
- 2:37Speaker 2: powerful his mom is?
- 2:38Speaker 5: Well, he loves me, you know, like whether I do
- 2:42Speaker 5: well or if I you know, what I have or
- 2:45Speaker 5: don't have.
- 2:45Speaker 4: He he loves me. You know, we love each other.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Yeah, you're special and powerful to him in ways that
- 2:51Speaker 1: we would never understand, you was mom.
- 2:53Speaker 5: I love him, I appreciate him, I respect him, try
- 2:56Speaker 5: to help him in any dream that he has. And
- 3:00Speaker 5: I don't even know what that don't even mean, I
- 3:02Speaker 5: don't know.
- 3:03Speaker 4: I don't care. As long as he's happy and.
- 3:07Speaker 5: He can take care of himself financially, that matters to us.
- 3:12Speaker 5: I'm straight, like he's a good person, so funny, he's cool.
- 3:18Speaker 4: So I'm glad he suggested j I D I was.
- 3:22Speaker 5: We listened to him, you know, like this is our
- 3:24Speaker 5: music in the kitchen, this is what Jet and I
- 3:26Speaker 5: do when we have time together. And he said, Mom,
- 3:30Speaker 5: why don't you call j Id? And I was like,
- 3:31Speaker 5: I don't know him yet.
- 3:34Speaker 4: And He's like, just d.
- 3:36Speaker 3: And that's what you did.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Yeah, And it like minutes later he texted back, like,
- 3:41Speaker 4: what's up, queen? What you want now? What you want
- 3:43Speaker 4: to do?
- 3:43Speaker 5: And I was like, well, he said send it, and
- 3:48Speaker 5: within twenty four hours he sent his verse back.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Wow.
- 3:50Speaker 5: And when I tell you, I asked him specifically, I said,
- 3:54Speaker 5: I need you to paint a picture with words. This
- 3:58Speaker 5: is what I require of them. He's that I love
- 4:02Speaker 5: and the MC's that I put on my projects. I
- 4:04Speaker 5: need you to paint pictures less than twenty four hours
- 4:07Speaker 5: bars you could see it, you could taste it. He
- 4:11Speaker 5: painted brilliant. So proud of him and so happy that
- 4:15Speaker 5: he's on my project.
- 4:16Speaker 1: So what made you put ab soul on Old to Niki?
- 4:19Speaker 1: Because I feel like old to NICKI would have been
- 4:20Speaker 1: such a personal record to you that you want to
- 4:22Speaker 1: keep that to yourself.
- 4:23Speaker 3: What made you reach out to a sol?
- 4:25Speaker 4: Because Nikki Giovanni inspired writers, She inspired her inspired poets,
- 4:31Speaker 4: and a soul is an ill emc.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Absolutely, he's he's.
- 4:36Speaker 4: So thought provoking.
- 4:38Speaker 5: I have to go back and listen again and again,
- 4:41Speaker 5: and then I pull out books and you know, I
- 4:43Speaker 5: pick up Wikipedia or whatever, you know, to find out
- 4:46Speaker 5: exactly what he's talking about, because he's he's that thoughtful,
- 4:50Speaker 5: he's that prolific.
- 4:51Speaker 4: He's he's had quite a.
- 4:52Speaker 5: Life experience and it represents in his writing deeply. So
- 4:57Speaker 5: I when I did old to NICKI, she's the first
- 5:01Speaker 5: poet that I ever found out about at school, black poet,
- 5:05Speaker 5: black woman, And uh, it was just awesome to see
- 5:10Speaker 5: myself on paper like that, my people, my neighborhood, you know,
- 5:15Speaker 5: my love on paper. So when I did old to Nikki,
- 5:20Speaker 5: she had just passed absolute seemed like the right guy
- 5:25Speaker 5: to me.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I mean, he sounds great on him, he does sound great.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Well, I just wanted to know the meaning because I'm like,
- 5:29Speaker 1: that's a big complish, Absol.
- 5:31Speaker 5: Because we spent a lot of time talking, we clicked
- 5:34Speaker 5: really easily. So we talked about the Celestine prophecy, like
- 5:37Speaker 5: within minutes of just talking to each other and moved
- 5:42Speaker 5: on from from there. So yeah, he was the right
- 5:45Speaker 5: person for me to choose.
- 5:47Speaker 2: So you look so happy, like you look so glowing.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I've been watching your rollout right. I've seen you with
- 5:52Speaker 2: a demo and I've seen you do a lot of pressing.
- 5:53Speaker 2: You just look and feel like a positive vibe.
- 5:57Speaker 4: I feel good.
- 5:59Speaker 5: I did it something that I really wanted to do
- 6:02Speaker 5: and it means a lot to me, and I have
- 6:05Speaker 5: an opportunity to share it and perform it in front
- 6:07Speaker 5: of people that will be looking at me like I
- 6:10Speaker 5: look at them, and I get a chance to travel
- 6:13Speaker 5: some more and make some money.
- 6:15Speaker 4: You know.
- 6:15Speaker 2: But you even, like even when I see you do
- 6:17Speaker 2: these interviews, you're blushing. It's like it's like your overly loved.
- 6:20Speaker 3: I love it.
- 6:21Speaker 4: I love it.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Even when you got here this morning, you were you said,
- 6:23Speaker 2: what time do you guys get here in the morning,
- 6:25Speaker 2: But you were smiling and happy about it, like I
- 6:27Speaker 2: love it. And I love to see artists like that
- 6:29Speaker 2: that loved the craft. You could tell when the artist
- 6:31Speaker 2: has to do something for money, or when the artist
- 6:32Speaker 2: has to do something because the label is requiring or
- 6:35Speaker 2: management required, and then you can tell when somebody just
- 6:37Speaker 2: loves putting.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Which every ten years, she doesn't do anything because the
- 6:40Speaker 1: label wants her to difference.
- 6:43Speaker 6: Even your rollout felt like a hug, Like I saw
- 6:46Speaker 6: you you were from Gillian Wallow, then I saw you
- 6:48Speaker 6: on Angie Martinez. Then eventually you started doing like you
- 6:51Speaker 6: were posting like the letters on your Instagram and kind
- 6:53Speaker 6: of explaining the project. And I'm like, this just feels
- 6:56Speaker 6: like I'm being ushered into like a whole new world
- 6:58Speaker 6: of things.
- 6:59Speaker 5: That was the plan. I have a new publicist. I
- 7:03Speaker 5: think she's absolutely wonderful. Her name is Erica Trucker Tucker.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Forgive me. I think she's fantastic.
- 7:12Speaker 5: But we had a whole other idea, Like two days
- 7:14Speaker 5: before we started doing a rollout. Two days before I
- 7:18Speaker 5: just was like, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
- 7:20Speaker 5: hold on, we're.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Talking about beautiful people.
- 7:23Speaker 5: If we're gonna put beautiful people out as an introduction
- 7:26Speaker 5: to the album, because really that's who I'm calling. I'm
- 7:31Speaker 5: calling the people that that light up from the inside,
- 7:34Speaker 5: you know, that that love love, yeah, love love, that
- 7:41Speaker 5: are again financially respectful to their lives, makes sense. Okay,
- 7:52Speaker 5: and so if that's the if that's the intention is
- 7:55Speaker 5: this is the call out, well, let me represent the
- 7:58Speaker 5: people that have been so beautiful in helping you with
- 8:01Speaker 5: this project. You know, it's all been organic. I met
- 8:04Speaker 5: a guy at a party. It was like, I'm too short, engineer,
- 8:09Speaker 5: and I was like, I believe.
- 8:11Speaker 3: You that record that the church going to be that's
- 8:17Speaker 3: like part to a drew.
- 8:19Speaker 6: Possibly it's a church in the education system too though,
- 8:23Speaker 6: right cause you mentioned education in.
- 8:24Speaker 7: There as well.
- 8:26Speaker 4: Yes, I'm in the pharmaceutical and pharma. Yeah you ain't lit.
- 8:30Speaker 4: I know you didn't lie.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And even just the choice to go get too short
- 8:35Speaker 1: to come on there and describe pimping.
- 8:38Speaker 5: The mentality of a pimp work, is it? So so
- 8:41Speaker 5: we're clear, I'm not saying anything. I'm not trying to
- 8:44Speaker 5: be mean to you. What I don't want to be
- 8:46Speaker 5: mean to somebody for it.
- 8:48Speaker 4: That's not it.
- 8:49Speaker 5: This is what it is. This is what it is,
- 8:52Speaker 5: and I have a thorough bred pimp to tell you.
- 8:56Speaker 5: So give you all the information that you need. And
- 8:58Speaker 5: this has been brought to you by education because I
- 9:02Speaker 5: want you to know.
- 9:04Speaker 3: All those records easy are hard to create.
- 9:07Speaker 5: Easy really easy. The musician's name is Kari Martin. I
- 9:12Speaker 5: met him when he was like a kid at the studio.
- 9:15Speaker 5: Now he's he played every instrument on that every instrument.
- 9:20Speaker 4: Right right, Okay, he gives me this music.
- 9:24Speaker 5: It feels like it feels like like the player's ball.
- 9:31Speaker 5: It feels like it's pamphy. It's a failure. It's like
- 9:36Speaker 5: revolutionary at the same time. And I was like, yeah, okay,
- 9:38Speaker 5: what am I gonna talk about? This is what I
- 9:41Speaker 5: want to say. I say, preacher man, what you're trying
- 9:44Speaker 5: to do? Trying to yeah this my name? Is that
- 9:48Speaker 5: all you do when my main got squat? But you
- 9:52Speaker 5: take that tell and he ain't good for the people.
- 9:57Speaker 4: I ain't moved. Where's a universe? The tease? Where's all
- 10:01Speaker 4: the food for free? People can fee the veils.
- 10:05Speaker 5: But you're still riding around in the coop Deville, biggest
- 10:08Speaker 5: pimp of the year.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Uh huh.
- 10:14Speaker 3: So when you look when somebody, when you meet too
- 10:16Speaker 3: Short what you said you met his engineer and I.
- 10:18Speaker 5: Met too Short at uh something. He's just a part
- 10:23Speaker 5: of me.
- 10:23Speaker 4: I don't even know when I didn't know too short
- 10:26Speaker 4: DNA yo? Is that what that is?
- 10:30Speaker 3: Like?
- 10:30Speaker 4: Immediate breathree.
- 10:33Speaker 5: Okay, that's what it is. Okay, okay, I don't feel
- 10:35Speaker 5: too crazy. But I met his engineer at a party.
- 10:39Speaker 5: He said, I'm a producer and I also I engineered
- 10:42Speaker 5: for too Short.
- 10:42Speaker 4: I just believed him.
- 10:43Speaker 3: I just believed him.
- 10:44Speaker 4: I just believed them. So I gave him my number.
- 10:48Speaker 4: We exchanged numbers. I called him.
- 10:49Speaker 5: He sent me music, He sent me off of the
- 10:51Speaker 5: bag and he sent me pressure.
- 10:56Speaker 3: Wow.
- 10:57Speaker 5: When I say organic, like, just allow the things to
- 11:00Speaker 5: be what they are. I'm talking to David Banner, you know,
- 11:04Speaker 5: that's my dude. And now we're talking. He's been giving
- 11:07Speaker 5: me music forever. He just keeps keeps the inspiration churning, right,
- 11:12Speaker 5: So he's we're talking, and I said, I got this track.
- 11:15Speaker 5: I wanted to feel like. I wanted to feel like
- 11:19Speaker 5: a marching band. I wanted to feel like HBCU marching band.
- 11:24Speaker 5: That's what I want, That's what I want. He said,
- 11:25Speaker 5: why don't you call Trombone Shorty. You got his number, Yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 5: send it to me. I called easy. He went in
- 11:35Speaker 5: and cut four hundred and eighty tracks. Why would you
- 11:38Speaker 5: do such a thing, sir? Why would you do such
- 11:40Speaker 5: a thing? And he's just.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Like I love you.
- 11:49Speaker 5: The way that is working, I couldn't have planned it,
- 11:52Speaker 5: like even the day that you know come out. It's
- 11:57Speaker 5: it's uh February uh thirty thirteen.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Thirteenth yeven two three two one three.
- 12:06Speaker 4: No, February thirteenth, got it.
- 12:12Speaker 3: I don't get it, but.
- 12:13Speaker 5: Okay on the twenty wait, twenty six year right, twenty six.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Nobody else in the room got it? Yes, sir, two
- 12:26Speaker 3: thirteen thirteen times. No, nope.
- 12:30Speaker 5: It's as simple as simple could be. I love I
- 12:33Speaker 5: call myself the Queen of grand simple things. Two four
- 12:40Speaker 5: one and three two and six.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Wait two at six.
- 12:50Speaker 5: Eight right two four eight, Just as simple as can be.
- 12:56Speaker 5: These are the things that I look for.
- 12:58Speaker 3: This are things just all that of basics.
- 13:01Speaker 5: I am after reading the Celestine prophecies, I am driven.
- 13:08Speaker 4: I am driven.
- 13:09Speaker 5: It's a path. I just I just follow it. Signs
- 13:13Speaker 5: are obvious and evident. And I said, yes, whether whether
- 13:18Speaker 5: I you know my number is four two is obviously
- 13:24Speaker 5: So I'm always looking for a four. I'm looking for
- 13:30Speaker 5: the right energy. And Friday the thirteenth kind of felt
- 13:35Speaker 5: good to me.
- 13:36Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 13:37Speaker 5: And it's the day before Valentine's Day. I could have
- 13:39Speaker 5: released it on Valentine's Day, but.
- 13:41Speaker 7: I like this.
- 13:43Speaker 5: I'm hoping people will listen and and like have something
- 13:48Speaker 5: to talk about.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Most people would have stayed away from Friday to thirteenth.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Why she's playing Jason, She's killing these host listen.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But No, when you talk about the Celestian obviously, it's
- 14:00Speaker 1: like to me, I've always seen your aura, like when
- 14:03Speaker 1: you talk about following the divine, like you've always had
- 14:06Speaker 1: that divine energy, that divine presence, Like that's why we've
- 14:09Speaker 1: always gravitated towards you.
- 14:11Speaker 5: It's a confirmation of what I already knew. Gotcha, it
- 14:14Speaker 5: was a stamp. So when I'm not reading it, I'm
- 14:17Speaker 5: listening to it. It's just a good story, like like
- 14:24Speaker 5: like any folklore, I would say, or Bible or Torah
- 14:28Speaker 5: or Holy Koran.
- 14:29Speaker 4: They're filled with stories that teach us how to live
- 14:32Speaker 4: a life.
- 14:35Speaker 5: And obviously you get to choose how you do the thing.
- 14:37Speaker 5: With the Celestine Prophecy, it taught me that I'm already
- 14:46Speaker 5: doing the things that I need to do. Like I
- 14:49Speaker 5: always look for beauty, you know, no matter what situation
- 14:51Speaker 5: I'm in, where.
- 14:52Speaker 4: Is the beauty?
- 14:53Speaker 5: It's some there's gotta be some and then you find it.
- 14:57Speaker 5: The mud around your boot is rich and it's kind
- 15:04Speaker 5: of like mushy, and something about it is a little satisfying,
- 15:10Speaker 5: so you step in the mud a little bit more.
- 15:13Speaker 5: My boots are muddy, but my spirit feels good, So
- 15:17Speaker 5: I follow these things.
- 15:19Speaker 4: They're nine Insights.
- 15:21Speaker 5: The studio that I was working out of has I've
- 15:24Speaker 5: worked there many times, but it's been changed over and
- 15:27Speaker 5: over again that it's always closing down and starting again.
- 15:30Speaker 5: So I'm in the middle of Celestine Prophecy and I'm
- 15:33Speaker 5: going to the studio because I've decided to take the
- 15:36Speaker 5: month and just go every day like finish. And I'm
- 15:40Speaker 5: walking up and I look and they put that new
- 15:43Speaker 5: sign on the studio and it's I in ci E Studios.
- 15:49Speaker 5: I was like, Insights Studios. Okay, okay, I'm headed in
- 15:56Speaker 5: the right direction.
- 15:57Speaker 4: Don't give up.
- 15:59Speaker 5: These are the things that I look for, like little
- 16:02Speaker 5: little signs that are actually really big ones.
- 16:07Speaker 4: And here I am with you. That's been a while.
- 16:10Speaker 2: So if everything is a signed, do you ever feel
- 16:13Speaker 2: see a sign that says I'm not going in that direction,
- 16:15Speaker 2: I'm not going there, or management, let's not do that
- 16:18Speaker 2: because that does not feel right.
- 16:20Speaker 4: It's not as easy.
- 16:23Speaker 5: It's abrupt, it's harsh, it's a it's a jerk back,
- 16:28Speaker 5: and I haven't really No, I don't know how to
- 16:30Speaker 5: like navigate that part yet, but I will. I will
- 16:32Speaker 5: get I will get away. I will get away. I've
- 16:37Speaker 5: learned that too. But when the spirit says no, when
- 16:40Speaker 5: your whole energy says no, what are you doing? Don't
- 16:44Speaker 5: talk to this person. I remember talking to somebody at
- 16:47Speaker 5: a party and I was like, why are you got covid.
- 16:55Speaker 4: All in my face? And I got COVID.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I was like, see, girl, everything makes so much sense
- 17:02Speaker 1: now because you know, one of my favorite records on
- 17:04Speaker 1: the album is pay You on Tuesday, right, And it's
- 17:06Speaker 1: so funny because my niece had put out a tweet
- 17:08Speaker 1: yesterday and she put af you Young Black and gifted
- 17:11Speaker 1: get away from niggas and niggas shit asap, right, and
- 17:13Speaker 1: I just thought that was hilarious, and then I heard
- 17:15Speaker 1: pay You on Tuesday. But now I'm like, oh, she's
- 17:17Speaker 1: staying away from the poor.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Me energy type.
- 17:21Speaker 1: I mean, now that I hear you talk about the
- 17:23Speaker 1: book so much, I'm like, oh, that's why she wrote
- 17:25Speaker 1: that record.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Part of it, part of it, part of it.
- 17:28Speaker 5: And I know I keep saying financial, but I am
- 17:31Speaker 5: really over us spending and buying things that we can't
- 17:35Speaker 5: afford for who, for what? It's so many things to do,
- 17:39Speaker 5: to taste, to see, places, to be like. I just
- 17:45Speaker 5: I just don't see how it profits us to you know.
- 17:49Speaker 5: I like nice stuff too, I really do. But I
- 17:52Speaker 5: buy the stuff that I can afford. And somebody else
- 17:55Speaker 5: was like, you could afford. You don't know what I
- 17:56Speaker 5: could afford, and.
- 18:00Speaker 3: You don't know what I want, But you accurate?
- 18:03Speaker 4: Wag I do? I do? I do? I think it's
- 18:08Speaker 4: a wise decision. I saved properly. I invest. I really
- 18:14Speaker 4: want to switch out of this.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Poverty mindset or the lacking mindset of some you know,
- 18:22Speaker 5: my family, break away from these things. I'm not interested
- 18:26Speaker 5: in doing that anymore. I want to grow and I
- 18:29Speaker 5: want to make a whole lot of money, like a
- 18:31Speaker 5: whole lot, and I'm going to do great things with it.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Enjoy it.
- 18:36Speaker 5: I already do enjoy the money I have. I do
- 18:38Speaker 5: dope ship on the regular, I really do. It's been
- 18:42Speaker 5: it's been so nice.
- 18:44Speaker 4: Oh my god. You know, my son went to Tanzania
- 18:48Speaker 4: to get his schoola certification. I've never been.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Beautiful.
- 18:59Speaker 4: I've never been but he like, yes.
- 19:02Speaker 2: But that's the most important thing, right when we get
- 19:04Speaker 2: to a place where it's like none of this matters.
- 19:06Speaker 2: You just want your kids to be happy, whatever it
- 19:09Speaker 2: takes to be happy. Like I tell my daughter my son,
- 19:12Speaker 2: I don't care what you do. If you want to
- 19:14Speaker 2: do nails, if you want to do heir, if you
- 19:15Speaker 2: want to do sanitation. As long as you're happy, life
- 19:17Speaker 2: is too short.
- 19:18Speaker 5: Joyful, happy is fleeting, joyful, joyful.
- 19:24Speaker 4: Look for it.
- 19:25Speaker 5: That's an insight as well, to constantly look for the joy.
- 19:29Speaker 4: Taste of food, taste it feel with water. It's nice
- 19:38Speaker 4: and it sparks creativity.
- 19:41Speaker 1: But I can't afford to eat that gel and I
- 19:42Speaker 1: can't afford to go there the swimming that water.
- 19:44Speaker 3: So can you lower me something quick?
- 19:47Speaker 5: I've learned this. If someone wants to borrow something from you,
- 19:50Speaker 5: you give them a job. If they do the job
- 19:54Speaker 5: and do the job well, then that you're showing me something.
- 20:00Speaker 5: To give you a small reimbursement contract. I'm going to
- 20:06Speaker 5: say twenty five dollars a month fair. Yes, you don't
- 20:11Speaker 5: pay the twenty five dollars I don't know how when
- 20:13Speaker 5: it's gonna stop. It's gonna stop if you're consistent. If
- 20:17Speaker 5: you're consistent. If you're not consistent, you never have to
- 20:21Speaker 5: worry about me again. You never have to ask me
- 20:23Speaker 5: anything again, because this was a contract. It didn't have
- 20:27Speaker 5: any interest.
- 20:29Speaker 4: This was respect.
- 20:31Speaker 5: So I enjoy helping people, but I have to see
- 20:36Speaker 5: what they want. I have to see what they're doing.
- 20:39Speaker 5: I gotta see something. You gotta show me something. Can't
- 20:41Speaker 5: just tell me a dream. Okay, when did you.
- 20:45Speaker 7: Get to that point in your life?
- 20:46Speaker 6: Because I saw you talking to Angie Martinez about that
- 20:48Speaker 6: right and set in these boundaries. But then I also
- 20:50Speaker 6: hear you talk a lot about like you carry so
- 20:52Speaker 6: much for your family for a long time because you
- 20:54Speaker 6: were trying to, like y'all were trying to get out
- 20:56Speaker 6: of the situations that you guys were in. And I
- 20:57Speaker 6: think that there's like a sometimes there's like this tug
- 21:01Speaker 6: of war of like I'm able to help, so I
- 21:03Speaker 6: want to help. But at the same time, I got
- 21:04Speaker 6: us set these boundaries. When did Jill Scott say I
- 21:07Speaker 6: didn't did enough. I gotta stop this now.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Now something had to happen.
- 21:13Speaker 5: I turned fifty and the light popped on again. Yeah,
- 21:22Speaker 5: that's what happened. Time creates wisdom, you know, if you're
- 21:27Speaker 5: paying attention. If you're not paying attention, it just creates age.
- 21:31Speaker 5: But yeah, I've been paying attention and I know that
- 21:34Speaker 5: that doesn't make me feel good to watch people do
- 21:39Speaker 5: things that are outside of their particular space financial space,
- 21:46Speaker 5: like going on a cruise. Okay, you're going on a cruise,
- 21:50Speaker 5: but you didn't pay the mortgage. I can't help you
- 21:56Speaker 5: with that. I can't in the fact that you would
- 21:58Speaker 5: ask me.
- 21:59Speaker 7: To is ridiculous.
- 22:02Speaker 4: You made a choice, that is your choice.
- 22:06Speaker 5: It wasn't like something happened like you know, the car
- 22:09Speaker 5: broke down or you know the tuition is behind or
- 22:13Speaker 5: it's nothing like that. And even if tuition is behind
- 22:16Speaker 5: them grades m hm, how they doing? What activities are
- 22:21Speaker 5: they in? Because it's mine and I can share with
- 22:26Speaker 5: you as I've seen fit and deemed fit. It might
- 22:29Speaker 5: seem harsh, but I don't know, it feels right to me.
- 22:32Speaker 5: I feel better. I don't feel way down by people's stuff.
- 22:37Speaker 3: I don't think that's harsh.
- 22:38Speaker 1: And also, what about when you give somebody money for mortgage,
- 22:40Speaker 1: but then you go see them on a cruise after
- 22:43Speaker 1: they just asked.
- 22:43Speaker 4: You, I didn't get invited to the crew.
- 22:47Speaker 3: What is nigga Blues to you?
- 22:50Speaker 2: That's his favorite song by the way, Oh.
- 22:56Speaker 3: No, I got a lot of favorite records, but that record.
- 22:59Speaker 1: Was hit me yesterday in a real way. I got
- 23:01Speaker 1: a lot of favorite record on that but that one
- 23:03Speaker 1: really was.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Okay.
- 23:05Speaker 5: Music is medicinal. It'll hit you when you need it.
- 23:08Speaker 5: So what do you mean by like, what what does
- 23:10Speaker 5: it do for you?
- 23:12Speaker 3: Man?
- 23:13Speaker 1: For me, it just put things in perspective based off
- 23:16Speaker 1: what you're saying, because you're saying a lot of that
- 23:18Speaker 1: throughout the song as you're singing. But it's also it's like,
- 23:20Speaker 1: I don't want no more nigga blues. Stop putting your
- 23:22Speaker 1: problems on me. I can wake up in the morning
- 23:25Speaker 1: and be good, and then by the end of the
- 23:27Speaker 1: week I'm feeling way down. And then when you realize
- 23:29Speaker 1: why you're way down, it's because you're trying to help
- 23:32Speaker 1: everybody else with they shit.
- 23:34Speaker 3: I don't want no more niggas.
- 23:35Speaker 4: It's exhausting, Yes, it's exhausting. I love to inspire.
- 23:39Speaker 5: I want people to do better, but if they don't
- 23:42Speaker 5: want it, what am I supposed to do.
- 23:45Speaker 4: Just keep pouring into an empty well. I can't do it.
- 23:49Speaker 5: The things that you do don't benefit you, so why
- 23:54Speaker 5: do I have to?
- 23:57Speaker 3: Damn, that's a bar.
- 24:02Speaker 4: It is.
- 24:02Speaker 6: That's it's really mentally heavy too, especially depending on where
- 24:05Speaker 6: you come from. Like I've I've your song with a
- 24:07Speaker 6: tier whack. It's so Philly. It's so like arts Philly.
- 24:11Speaker 6: I love tiar wack. But just hearing you say that
- 24:13Speaker 6: makes me think about like a lot of people who
- 24:16Speaker 6: come from like particular neighborhoods, families, whatever, that mental weight
- 24:19Speaker 6: we never some of us never let that go. Like
- 24:21Speaker 6: I used to turn fifty, right, I got family umber
- 24:24Speaker 6: sixty five and plus that are like literally aging themselves
- 24:26Speaker 6: because they're still holding onto that.
- 24:28Speaker 7: I gotta do everything for everybody.
- 24:29Speaker 5: Yes, it's not benefiting us. It's like, what are we
- 24:36Speaker 5: being loyal to?
- 24:40Speaker 4: That line?
- 24:40Speaker 5: You know all s all skin folk and kin folk,
- 24:45Speaker 5: not all people are your people. That does a search
- 24:49Speaker 5: out for your people and weed them out respectfully, you
- 24:54Speaker 5: know s or disrespectfully.
- 24:59Speaker 4: They just have to go.
- 25:00Speaker 5: They can't stay to take up space. A girlfriend of
- 25:04Speaker 5: mine had asked me about what to do. She said
- 25:09Speaker 5: she wanted a man, and I was like, h maybe
- 25:14Speaker 5: make some space for one a physical manifestation of a
- 25:21Speaker 5: dream or an idea that you want it becomes real.
- 25:25Speaker 5: Make room in your closet, take the lamp down on
- 25:29Speaker 5: the other side of your bed and take the stuff
- 25:32Speaker 5: out of it. It might sound crazy to some, try it.
- 25:43Speaker 5: Make space in your life for what it is that
- 25:45Speaker 5: you want and you'll see it every day, the fact
- 25:48Speaker 5: that there's a space.
- 25:50Speaker 4: And watch it. Just watch, just try some Auntie, I
- 25:55Speaker 4: love you, Okay.
- 26:00Speaker 2: It's a lot of Make space in my bank account
- 26:02Speaker 2: and manifested. If that money come in, it's.
- 26:06Speaker 4: Another account, Get another account.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Did your friend ever get the mand.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Hmm, they're very happy.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Oh good.
- 26:16Speaker 1: At this stage in your life, what does honesty and
- 26:18Speaker 1: music require that it didn't demand from you when you
- 26:20Speaker 1: was in like your twenties and thirties.
- 26:23Speaker 5: What does it require now? I don't know what it requires.
- 26:27Speaker 5: I know what I require.
- 26:28Speaker 3: What do you require?
- 26:29Speaker 5: Uh? I require a certain amount of rest. I want
- 26:37Speaker 5: to be in the best venues that has the best sound.
- 26:44Speaker 5: I like a two bedroom or a definitely a two
- 26:48Speaker 5: bathroom hotel suite. Time with my people, like my people,
- 26:57Speaker 5: they I've known them forever. They're like friends that they're
- 26:59Speaker 5: not like friends, they're the best of friends. Time with them.
- 27:06Speaker 5: And then I love to do my job, so it's
- 27:08Speaker 5: not even like I feel like I'm required to do
- 27:11Speaker 5: anything by anyone. I set my space. You know, I
- 27:14Speaker 5: said it before, I'll say it again. You work hard
- 27:17Speaker 5: in your twenties, you work smart in your thirties, you
- 27:19Speaker 5: work how you want to in your forties, you work
- 27:23Speaker 5: when you want to in your fifties, and you work
- 27:26Speaker 5: if you want to in your sixties.
- 27:28Speaker 4: And I'm in my how I.
- 27:29Speaker 5: Want to phase of my life, so how I want
- 27:33Speaker 5: to is more than likely I will be having residencies
- 27:39Speaker 5: instead of running all over the country.
- 27:41Speaker 4: Come to me, Come to me. Let me give you a.
- 27:43Speaker 5: Stage that I've created that I don't have to pick
- 27:46Speaker 5: up and move from space to space, you know, and
- 27:49Speaker 5: in you know, if I just come see me, I'll
- 27:52Speaker 5: let you know in plenty of time, you know, so
- 27:55Speaker 5: that you can come and I'll create based off of
- 27:58Speaker 5: the space that I'm in.
- 27:59Speaker 4: This is where I am now, this is what I require.
- 28:04Speaker 4: And then.
- 28:07Speaker 5: I would love listening ears people that actually listen to
- 28:11Speaker 5: what's being said, and the musicianship of the album. You
- 28:16Speaker 5: know that part like I hope to inspire bass players
- 28:21Speaker 5: like crazy. I hope to inspire MC's like crazy to start.
- 28:28Speaker 5: I don't know telling stories, painting pictures in big, grand scopes,
- 28:36Speaker 5: you know. So to whom this may concern requires these things.
- 28:42Speaker 5: And that's where I am at this point.
- 28:46Speaker 1: The title feels like a like like like a boundary
- 28:49Speaker 1: and a release in a way.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Why did you come up with that title concern?
- 28:54Speaker 5: Because it's to whom this may concern. It is to
- 28:58Speaker 5: whom this may concern, you'll know. If it's for you,
- 29:02Speaker 5: you'll know. And then I thought about this because I
- 29:05Speaker 5: thought maybe that was limiting. I thought about this the
- 29:07Speaker 5: other day that I didn't understand Billy Holliday when I
- 29:11Speaker 5: was young. I didn't understand the tone of her voice.
- 29:14Speaker 5: I didn't understand the things that she was talking about.
- 29:15Speaker 5: I didn't get it. It's like, why didn't make such
- 29:18Speaker 5: a big deal about this lady? Until I got my
- 29:20Speaker 5: feelings hurt? And then I played Billie Holliday and I
- 29:24Speaker 5: was like, Oh, that's what this is, and you're relating
- 29:32Speaker 5: to me in this space. Oh, so it could be
- 29:37Speaker 5: the same thing for a lot of people.
- 29:39Speaker 4: I don't know. But to whom this may concern is
- 29:42Speaker 4: For to whom this may concern, well, know, I can't
- 29:45Speaker 4: wait to see your faces.
- 29:46Speaker 3: That makes so much sense, because, like you know, you
- 29:48Speaker 3: can't wait.
- 29:49Speaker 1: I think about, like, you know, older records of yours,
- 29:51Speaker 1: like Blessed Right, and when you first heard.
- 29:53Speaker 3: It, it's a good record.
- 29:55Speaker 1: But when you're actually in that space, oh later in life,
- 29:59Speaker 1: oh oh my god, it just hits different.
- 30:02Speaker 3: It just hits different.
- 30:04Speaker 4: You get to that point you're like, and I know, lot,
- 30:06Speaker 4: I know.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Do you think about that when you're creating, like what?
- 30:11Speaker 2: I want to make sure that people understand it when
- 30:13Speaker 2: they're at their lowest moment, at their highest moment, at
- 30:16Speaker 2: that moment.
- 30:19Speaker 4: I don't know if I could do that to myself.
- 30:22Speaker 5: I try my best to be as clear as possible,
- 30:24Speaker 5: and I know that I speak in poet, but I
- 30:27Speaker 5: try my best. And then I just, you know, have
- 30:30Speaker 5: to release the baby, go ahead out in the world
- 30:34Speaker 5: and see what happens.
- 30:36Speaker 4: You know.
- 30:36Speaker 5: I put a lot of good intentions, a lot of prayer,
- 30:38Speaker 5: a lot of love, a lot of hours, lots I'm
- 30:43Speaker 5: into the project. So this baby's been loved. I think
- 30:49Speaker 5: you can hear that. I know I can hear it
- 30:53Speaker 5: and people will see who gravitates towards it. I'm excited
- 30:57Speaker 5: to see them.
- 30:57Speaker 4: I really am.
- 30:59Speaker 6: On the I was gonna say that's on the start
- 31:02Speaker 6: of the album. You talk about you can't wait to
- 31:03Speaker 6: see the people just now. When you said it before
- 31:05Speaker 6: this last time, you kind of got emotional when you
- 31:07Speaker 6: said you can't wait to see people's faces. What is
- 31:10Speaker 6: that feeling that I'm like, since as you say, you
- 31:12Speaker 6: can't wait to see the people show out for this.
- 31:15Speaker 4: It's a dream. It's a dream. I've seen it. I've
- 31:19Speaker 4: seen it.
- 31:20Speaker 5: Every time I sing beautiful People, I just see I
- 31:24Speaker 5: see thousands and thousands of people like it's and they're
- 31:30Speaker 5: up and they're up there too as far as I
- 31:32Speaker 5: can see, and I and I get to see these
- 31:36Speaker 5: faces looking back at me. I don't know how I'm
- 31:40Speaker 5: going to make it through that. I'll do my best,
- 31:44Speaker 5: and I don't know how I'm going to make it
- 31:45Speaker 5: through I shay either.
- 31:47Speaker 3: I had it.
- 31:48Speaker 1: It's so different. Me and one of our producers was
- 31:50Speaker 1: talking about the record earlier. She was asking me what
- 31:52Speaker 1: I was one of my favorite records on the album.
- 31:54Speaker 1: She said, I say, I share it.
- 31:57Speaker 5: I was crying during the recording. Andre Harris sent me
- 32:02Speaker 5: the music and I was like, this is a prayer.
- 32:06Speaker 4: This is a prayer. Now what shall I say to
- 32:09Speaker 4: my beautiful people?
- 32:12Speaker 5: Man, I don't know how I'm gonna ever get through
- 32:15Speaker 5: that song. They'll probably have to sing it for me.
- 32:18Speaker 5: I just don't know.
- 32:20Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 32:20Speaker 1: I've seen you do some amazing singing when you was crying.
- 32:22Speaker 1: I remember, years and years. Yeah, this is twenty plus
- 32:24Speaker 1: years ago. I seen you in Charlotte, North Carolina at
- 32:26Speaker 1: the Sugar Water Festival. You hit a high note so crazy,
- 32:29Speaker 1: like literally a tear came down your face like Denzel
- 32:32Speaker 1: and Glory. It just sat there for a second. You
- 32:35Speaker 1: didn't miss a beat, so I don't think you'll miss
- 32:37Speaker 1: a beat.
- 32:38Speaker 4: We'll see how this goes.
- 32:40Speaker 3: On the Hookah, be great, you say, I'm gonna go
- 32:42Speaker 3: ahead and be great?
- 32:43Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 32:44Speaker 3: Do you have times and you feel like you're not
- 32:46Speaker 3: great already?
- 32:48Speaker 5: It's internal and it's not for anybody else's. It's not
- 32:53Speaker 5: for anybody else. You're great, my great, It's all great.
- 32:57Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. But I'm gonna do my greade.
- 32:58Speaker 4: I'm gonna you know, yeah, do I have do I have?
- 33:02Speaker 1: What was the question, like, do you ever feel like
- 33:04Speaker 1: you have moments where you feel like you're not great?
- 33:07Speaker 3: Already? Like because I can't, I can't imagine you have
- 33:10Speaker 3: any pothet syndrome ever.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
- 33:13Speaker 5: I'm sure I feel insecure and scared and all the
- 33:17Speaker 5: things that human beings feel. I mean, I know I do.
- 33:23Speaker 5: Was there a time I didn't think I was being great?
- 33:25Speaker 4: I don't remember when you say.
- 33:28Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and be great. You're just talking.
- 33:29Speaker 5: About everything and all the things. You know what I said?
- 33:36Speaker 5: All my life, I wanted to do good. I wanted
- 33:39Speaker 5: to be good. I wanted to feel free of a
- 33:42Speaker 5: history that made me cry and stump my stride. So
- 33:46Speaker 5: I changed my mind. I doubled down on believing that
- 33:50Speaker 5: the opinions of other people couldn't like my life or
- 33:53Speaker 5: deter my sight, nor wrong my rights, or delay my flight.
- 34:00Speaker 5: Like high now up above on the clarity of love.
- 34:03Speaker 5: I only get what I put into it. I spent
- 34:07Speaker 5: my sweet time where I deemed fit. I got one life.
- 34:13Speaker 5: I'm gonna let my glow show. Baby, look at this,
- 34:17Speaker 5: the embodiment of soul glow, I admit, paint my own pictures,
- 34:23Speaker 5: gifts on gifts, on gifts, Let the load lift, let
- 34:27Speaker 5: the words shift.
- 34:31Speaker 4: I ain't here to live in fear or just plain
- 34:36Speaker 4: old exists. I'm gonna go ahead and be great.
- 34:43Speaker 3: Mm hm.
- 34:46Speaker 5: So I want people to play before they go in
- 34:47Speaker 5: their audition. I want them to play before they go
- 34:50Speaker 5: in their job interview. I want them to play it
- 34:52Speaker 5: when before they propose.
- 34:53Speaker 6: I want to before they take as like the whole
- 34:59Speaker 6: like it felt like like I feel like living my
- 35:01Speaker 6: life like it's golden. It's like a song that you
- 35:03Speaker 6: play when you want to feel good too, Like that's
- 35:05Speaker 6: like my go to, like easy affirmation song. But when
- 35:07Speaker 6: I was listening to this, I'm like, you got like
- 35:09Speaker 6: the first three songs, first two songs are just straight
- 35:12Speaker 6: out the back and then you're just going off with
- 35:13Speaker 6: the affirmations.
- 35:15Speaker 4: And other things. Is that what it is?
- 35:18Speaker 6: It felt I don't know if it like it's kind
- 35:20Speaker 6: of like the so the opening song with is a
- 35:23Speaker 6: dope shit that kind of felt like a like how
- 35:27Speaker 6: you was like just listening to Auntie right, I felt
- 35:29Speaker 6: like I was sitting down and somebody was like, I'm
- 35:32Speaker 6: tired of you. Come here, come have a convers let's
- 35:33Speaker 6: let's really talk because what's going on. It felt like that.
- 35:35Speaker 6: And then when we go into the second song, be Great,
- 35:37Speaker 6: it's like it's already there and not and told you
- 35:39Speaker 6: and I'm not gonna tell you again.
- 35:41Speaker 7: And then beautiful People.
- 35:42Speaker 6: It's like the people have finally got it and now
- 35:44Speaker 6: they like all come together and it's just this big
- 35:47Speaker 6: march and push back against like this. I just like
- 35:49Speaker 6: it's like a world phenomena, like everything's switching.
- 35:51Speaker 4: You can see it.
- 35:52Speaker 6: Yes, Like it just continues and continues and continues. Yes,
- 35:58Speaker 6: So maybe.
- 35:59Speaker 7: It's more of a movement affirmation.
- 36:00Speaker 4: Whooo, I'll take it. I'll take it.
- 36:04Speaker 5: It's it's I was made an auntie for a reason,
- 36:11Speaker 5: and I'm going to do my job.
- 36:15Speaker 4: M period.
- 36:17Speaker 3: You know.
- 36:18Speaker 1: I wonder when you do records like pressure, when you
- 36:19Speaker 1: do records like me for is that when you do
- 36:24Speaker 1: the actual record? Is that when the closure comes or
- 36:26Speaker 1: do you have closure before in order to do the record.
- 36:32Speaker 4: I never thought about it.
- 36:36Speaker 5: I don't know if that I'm looking for closure necessarily.
- 36:40Speaker 5: I need to say it. I need I need it.
- 36:44Speaker 5: I need to say it it is true. I need
- 36:46Speaker 5: to Yeah, I get it out. I think that's how
- 36:49Speaker 5: I feel about that. Yeah, And then when I listen
- 36:53Speaker 5: to it, it becomes an affirmation for me because I've
- 36:56Speaker 5: said it and I was like, yeah, you said that,
- 36:58Speaker 5: because that's that's what it is. That's exactly what it is.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Yeah, you went too far. It was like, let me
- 37:04Speaker 3: take this out.
- 37:05Speaker 5: Man, many many times, many times, many times. I typically
- 37:11Speaker 5: write the thing before I get into the studio so
- 37:13Speaker 5: I can find how it feels when I get in there,
- 37:18Speaker 5: or I'll already know how it feels. It wasn't something
- 37:25Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if I necessarily went too far.
- 37:28Speaker 5: And be clear, I just said some ship. I probably
- 37:31Speaker 5: shouldn't have said. I don't know, it was the right thing,
- 37:35Speaker 5: And when I listened to it, I'm like, yeah, that's right,
- 37:38Speaker 5: you know that was that was real there.
- 37:41Speaker 4: But I probably shouldn't have shared it.
- 37:46Speaker 3: This album.
- 37:47Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did.
- 37:50Speaker 3: You said you married a bitch?
- 37:51Speaker 4: Yes?
- 37:56Speaker 3: I got pretty self exflanatory. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 38:00Speaker 5: Think I just needed to get to get stuff out too.
- 38:02Speaker 5: You know, music is healing for the artists as well,
- 38:05Speaker 5: supposed to be.
- 38:06Speaker 3: What's the moral compass with that?
- 38:07Speaker 2: Is it yourself said?
- 38:09Speaker 5: Now?
- 38:09Speaker 3: Is it?
- 38:09Speaker 2: Your son is it your homies house.
- 38:14Speaker 4: I haven't had that. It didn't come up.
- 38:16Speaker 5: Nobody said anything, you know, and my son listens to
- 38:19Speaker 5: everything and we talk about everything.
- 38:25Speaker 4: Yeah, so it.
- 38:26Speaker 5: Didn't come Nobody said he you probably shouldn't. Nobody did not.
- 38:31Speaker 5: I don't know if I would agree or disagree about it.
- 38:35Speaker 5: Did you see how everybody's going crazy about squeezing my meat?
- 38:41Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 38:42Speaker 4: It's a song called Don't Play Right.
- 38:45Speaker 3: I don't see people going crazy.
- 38:47Speaker 4: Oh boy, I did. They were like, squeeze my meat,
- 38:54Speaker 4: she said, squeeze my feet And I was like, I
- 38:59Speaker 4: did it?
- 39:01Speaker 3: Not used to that for you yet?
- 39:02Speaker 7: At this point, it's a new generation of people who
- 39:04Speaker 7: just be on Twitter.
- 39:06Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just confused. Maybe you all can help
- 39:09Speaker 5: me out here, because I would love to know. I've
- 39:12Speaker 5: heard lyrics.
- 39:14Speaker 1: That way worseb on my knob, like on the cop
- 39:19Speaker 1: they singing about eating ass Now, Jill.
- 39:21Speaker 4: I heard. I heard.
- 39:25Speaker 5: I listened to a lot of music, And because I
- 39:28Speaker 5: listened to a lot of music, I was just like,
- 39:30Speaker 5: what exactly is so radical about squeeze my meat? But
- 39:38Speaker 5: what but besides being a fan or not, like, what's
- 39:41Speaker 5: radical about that?
- 39:42Speaker 4: I just thought I'm missing something.
- 39:43Speaker 1: Probably, yes, you know, because it sounds amazing, so you
- 39:47Speaker 1: might be just randomly finding yourself singing it even as
- 39:49Speaker 1: a guy.
- 39:50Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
- 39:51Speaker 6: I also think it's I think it's too like with
- 39:53Speaker 6: the new generation, they get it different ways, Like.
- 40:01Speaker 1: At some point at the end of the spiritable meat
- 40:03Speaker 1: and I'll just be coming around the corner, squeeze my meat.
- 40:06Speaker 2: You better never sing that if you're in the bathroom
- 40:08Speaker 2: with me.
- 40:08Speaker 3: Bro, that's all.
- 40:11Speaker 4: I think. It's the fact that you got to say squeeze.
- 40:15Speaker 6: They said it was they was deeming the big areola music.
- 40:19Speaker 6: I heard that too, Yeah, I would, yeah, because basically,
- 40:24Speaker 6: if you don't know what to do with it, don't
- 40:25Speaker 6: come over here. That's the conversation. And I think it's just.
- 40:30Speaker 7: Right now.
- 40:31Speaker 6: In music, you either get stuff like that very straightfor
- 40:34Speaker 6: forward to the point where it's not sensual, and that
- 40:36Speaker 6: has always been you to be able to communicate those
- 40:38Speaker 6: type of things in a very unique way, right. But
- 40:41Speaker 6: there is a new generation of like creators and artists
- 40:44Speaker 6: who are listening to this and discovering your ability for
- 40:47Speaker 6: the first time, and they just think it's so powerful
- 40:50Speaker 6: and forward. And I'm like, welcome.
- 40:52Speaker 3: That's like people like that.
- 40:55Speaker 1: It's like I hate people that I don't want to
- 40:57Speaker 1: have to I don't want to catch up with you. Okay,
- 40:59Speaker 1: Like we all here celebrating Jill Scott because of who
- 41:02Speaker 1: Jill Scott always has been. I don't have time to
- 41:05Speaker 1: explain it. They'll get there, the greatness of Jill Scott.
- 41:07Speaker 1: You ketch up in your own.
- 41:08Speaker 3: Time, fair enough, they'll get there, right, I gotta explain it.
- 41:12Speaker 5: They'll get there, life will happen, and then there all
- 41:15Speaker 5: be your love and ninety with so many stories to tell,
- 41:20Speaker 5: so many life experiences to share, so many lessons learned,
- 41:25Speaker 5: so much music.
- 41:27Speaker 6: There was a skit on here too, I forget where
- 41:29Speaker 6: where it like comes in at and you're like talking
- 41:31Speaker 6: to someone and then it goes into a song. And
- 41:33Speaker 6: I was hoping that we would get more of that
- 41:35Speaker 6: type of thing, kind of like what Jasmine Sullivan did
- 41:37Speaker 6: on Hotels, just because of what you said, Like, I
- 41:41Speaker 6: know we know so much about you, but I know
- 41:43Speaker 6: that there's a lot more to hear, and now that
- 41:45Speaker 6: I'm older, I just was like, I wonder if she'll
- 41:47Speaker 6: ever do that where we just get to hear her
- 41:49Speaker 6: talk through her like experiences of things and then we
- 41:52Speaker 6: go back to the music after that.
- 41:54Speaker 4: Well, I don't know.
- 41:56Speaker 5: I did listen to Viola Davis's book, and my god,
- 42:02Speaker 5: I could listen to that woman. That story was so powerful,
- 42:06Speaker 5: so impactful. I think if I were going to do that,
- 42:09Speaker 5: it'd probably be a book. You know, I have a
- 42:14Speaker 5: lot of dreams.
- 42:18Speaker 7: Does that mean a book is getting the works or something.
- 42:23Speaker 2: I'm not a publisher.
- 42:24Speaker 3: If you need one, thank you.
- 42:25Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting you mentioned David Banner a
- 42:28Speaker 1: lot to me, y'all. I don't know, y'all have similar spirits.
- 42:32Speaker 1: I don't know, Like sometimes I hear you talking, I
- 42:33Speaker 1: hear David Banner, and then now I'm me and David
- 42:35Speaker 1: Banner sometimes that he just got But I never thought
- 42:37Speaker 1: about that until I've heard you mentioned him in the
- 42:39Speaker 1: last couple of I heard you mentioned and Martina mentioned
- 42:42Speaker 1: them here now, and I'm like, they're the same person
- 42:45Speaker 1: energy wise.
- 42:46Speaker 4: Thank you. We click.
- 42:53Speaker 3: You want to expound, well what.
- 42:58Speaker 4: I say about David Banner. Hmm, he is really.
- 43:09Speaker 5: Like I said this earlier, but he's really really kept
- 43:12Speaker 5: me inspired, sending me music, sending me music from other
- 43:16Speaker 5: people as well, not just himself, like not just trying
- 43:20Speaker 5: to get on an album, like sending me other musicians.
- 43:23Speaker 4: Stuff like that. That's a lot.
- 43:25Speaker 5: That's a lack of ID okay, like love that. And
- 43:32Speaker 5: he's he's amazing for resources as well. We buckheads often
- 43:40Speaker 5: and I tell him I'm not scared of you, David Banner,
- 43:43Speaker 5: you know, And he likes that. So where that's my
- 43:48Speaker 5: brother from another mother?
- 43:51Speaker 4: Yep. And I think he's beautiful.
- 43:56Speaker 7: Too.
- 43:57Speaker 3: Do you think healing is louder or quieter at fifty?
- 44:05Speaker 4: Quieter internally but very vocal outside.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Gotcha? It shows up in the music?
- 44:11Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 44:11Speaker 3: Gotcha?
- 44:12Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 44:13Speaker 3: How are you forty seven? That's it? Yeah? Forty eighth
- 44:16Speaker 3: this year? Worn in nineteen hundred and seventy eight.
- 44:19Speaker 4: Baby, right there.
- 44:22Speaker 3: But I feel the same way you feel.
- 44:23Speaker 1: I like being, I like just growing, like, you know,
- 44:26Speaker 1: feeling you feel more unapologetic about who you are every day,
- 44:29Speaker 1: and you realize how much more it is for you
- 44:31Speaker 1: to learn and how much that you have to unlearn.
- 44:35Speaker 4: The unlearning part practice practice, practice, practice practice.
- 44:42Speaker 3: But did you have to unlearn? That was so difficult?
- 44:47Speaker 5: I had to unlearn doubting myself. I had to I
- 44:53Speaker 5: had to learn to trust the process. I think for
- 44:57Speaker 5: the last few albums, I have been like trying, I
- 45:00Speaker 5: am my best, like try and try, and like you
- 45:02Speaker 5: don't have to try. You don't have to try. All
- 45:05Speaker 5: you gotta do is realize shout out to blau. But
- 45:08Speaker 5: that's all you gotta do. And that is like has
- 45:11Speaker 5: freed me, and I have so much. I have so
- 45:16Speaker 5: much music, y'all, it's not even funny within so many
- 45:20Speaker 5: different categories, which is exciting to me. And I don't know,
- 45:26Speaker 5: I you know this one.
- 45:28Speaker 4: I'm here.
- 45:29Speaker 5: See, I gotta stay right here because there's so many
- 45:33Speaker 5: things and I'm excited about them all, but I have
- 45:38Speaker 5: to stay right here with to whom this's main concern.
- 45:41Speaker 5: I put a lot of love in this thing. I
- 45:43Speaker 5: cannot wait for people to listen with their listening ears,
- 45:47Speaker 5: like actually think about the words and have conversations, and
- 45:50Speaker 5: I don't know by the time they get to to
- 45:52Speaker 5: be honest, I really hope that they're in full swing.
- 45:55Speaker 4: That was my intention.
- 45:57Speaker 1: Is there a song on this album that represents a
- 45:59Speaker 1: boundary that you used to ignore but now you protect
- 46:02Speaker 1: it no matter what.
- 46:04Speaker 4: I'd have to look at the song list? Can you
- 46:07Speaker 4: think of one?
- 46:09Speaker 1: Let me see you got dope, shit, be great, beautiful
- 46:11Speaker 1: people off the back and north side. Disclaim I pay
- 46:13Speaker 1: you on Tuesday. Pressure me for the math for universe
- 46:17Speaker 1: lifting me up, don't play to be honest right here,
- 46:20Speaker 1: right now, I say, sincerely, do probably me for it.
- 46:26Speaker 1: No pressure, no, no.
- 46:29Speaker 5: I love all my life. Everything gets you where you're going.
- 46:35Speaker 5: If I change something in what would happen? Who would
- 46:38Speaker 5: I be?
- 46:39Speaker 4: You know? I am? I am literally baby mama. Number
- 46:42Speaker 4: four four is my favorite fucking number. I'm always gonna
- 46:53Speaker 4: find it. The silver line and the joy, the beauty
- 46:56Speaker 4: and the thing. You know.
- 46:58Speaker 5: But you go through stuff and that's life, and you
- 47:00Speaker 5: just you know. I'm on the other side of everything,
- 47:04Speaker 5: which is good.
- 47:05Speaker 4: Now.
- 47:06Speaker 5: The job is to get myself inside of everything to
- 47:11Speaker 5: tell the story properly on stage.
- 47:15Speaker 3: That's what you're looking forward to the moment.
- 47:16Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. It's therapeutic, it's terrifying, so scary.
- 47:23Speaker 3: Oh, I'm coming to see you on Valentie. I will
- 47:25Speaker 3: be right there, me and the wife.
- 47:27Speaker 4: Nice.
- 47:28Speaker 5: Absolutely No, I'm feeling stuff out, so you're coming to
- 47:32Speaker 5: a feel out.
- 47:34Speaker 1: My last question, when it's all said and done, what
- 47:36Speaker 1: does piece look like for Jill Scott and did this
- 47:39Speaker 1: album bring you closer to whatever that is?
- 47:44Speaker 4: Life is bringing me closer to my peace?
- 47:48Speaker 5: And my kid doing well for himself, and my mother
- 47:55Speaker 5: living so comfortably and she's happy. My my private, my
- 48:07Speaker 5: personal life, it's solid. I love my home, I love
- 48:15Speaker 5: my friends. I have beautiful friends, y'all. You would fuck
- 48:20Speaker 5: with them, anybody would like. They're so so, so many
- 48:24Speaker 5: levels of it. It's not a lot of them, but
- 48:27Speaker 5: they're powerful. I'm I'm, I'm you know. I say, you
- 48:33Speaker 5: say you're happy, you say it joyful, and people get
- 48:37Speaker 5: upset about it. I feel sorry for that for you.
- 48:43Speaker 5: People have been upset about you saying it. People are
- 48:45Speaker 5: upset about other people feeling joy and being happy. Yes,
- 48:49Speaker 5: they do it all the time.
- 48:51Speaker 4: I see it.
- 48:53Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't
- 48:58Speaker 5: care what it is. It's not my bag to carry.
- 49:04Speaker 5: I'm gonna let this little light of mind shine.
- 49:06Speaker 3: And that might gonna irritate some demons and others.
- 49:09Speaker 4: You see what I'm That's what I'm saying. That's what
- 49:12Speaker 4: I'm saying. I have a force field. I put it on.
- 49:18Speaker 5: It goes under my feet, above my head. Anytime I
- 49:20Speaker 5: think about it, or I just put my force field
- 49:23Speaker 5: on and I walk through my life. We're superheroes. We
- 49:27Speaker 5: can do really anything. We want, anything, we can imagine.
- 49:31Speaker 5: You just need the power to do it. The power
- 49:33Speaker 5: is love, The power is sincere friendships. The power is guidance.
- 49:39Speaker 5: My mentors outside somewhere like having that is and anybody
- 49:46Speaker 5: can attain it. Anybody, at any time, in any state
- 49:51Speaker 5: of their life, can get all of the things my
- 49:55Speaker 5: mentor sometimes life will be a little stressy, stressful will
- 50:00Speaker 5: come in swinging, swinging like like boys in the hood swinging.
- 50:04Speaker 4: She'll kick.
- 50:05Speaker 5: It's a physical manifestation of a spiritual thing. She's fighting
- 50:12Speaker 5: off whatever can't happen. And then she says, whoa, And
- 50:18Speaker 5: I love that. I'm I want to you know. I'm like, damn,
- 50:26Speaker 5: I really like to got everything I ask for. I
- 50:31Speaker 5: got everything. God, Oh my god, Oh my god, oh
- 50:38Speaker 5: my god.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Everything. Wow, It's okay.
- 50:46Speaker 7: I feel that.
- 50:47Speaker 6: That's what I've been feeling all interview. I'm like something,
- 50:50Speaker 6: she there's a feeling here. I just don't know what
- 50:52Speaker 6: it is, but I'm so glad that you're in this space.
- 50:55Speaker 6: You deserve it. You worked hard, ma'am for a long time.
- 51:00Speaker 6: You've been literally like the deal Scott, my whole life.
- 51:02Speaker 7: I'm thirty four.
- 51:03Speaker 3: I just want you to know what you mean to
- 51:05Speaker 3: so many people.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Like I hope you know that we really love you
- 51:08Speaker 1: and we value, appreciate, appreciate you, and even you putting
- 51:11Speaker 1: out new music means so much like this is an event,
- 51:14Speaker 1: like oh my god, Jill Scott putting up putting out
- 51:16Speaker 1: new music like that matters. Like a lot of people
- 51:19Speaker 1: that put out music, I can take it to leave it.
- 51:22Speaker 1: Some people put out music the world stops for me,
- 51:24Speaker 1: and that that is what you're doing with to whom
- 51:26Speaker 1: they make concern.
- 51:34Speaker 4: I hate to be redundant, but I'm gonna say it again.
- 51:39Speaker 5: That in the time when Marvin Gaye was the highest,
- 51:45Speaker 5: there were albums that hit number one and stay number
- 51:50Speaker 5: one for weeks.
- 51:53Speaker 4: And the time was Shaka Khan I Love You Wherever
- 51:58Speaker 4: you are. Shaka Khan so much.
- 52:02Speaker 5: Had number five on some chart. There was some one, two, three,
- 52:07Speaker 5: and four that were doing way better than that. But
- 52:10Speaker 5: who do we remember, Who do we talk about? Who
- 52:14Speaker 5: do we still go see? It's you know, this thing
- 52:17Speaker 5: is all secular. You're gonna get You're gonna get a
- 52:21Speaker 5: bunch of other things in the water as well. But
- 52:24Speaker 5: sometimes sometimes you get a Prince. Sometimes you get a
- 52:29Speaker 5: Michael Jackson. Sometimes you get a Teddy Pendergrass and a
- 52:32Speaker 5: Stephanie Mills and a Phyllis Hymen.
- 52:35Speaker 4: Oh Lord, the list, and.
- 52:38Speaker 5: We remember them when we carry them, and we play
- 52:40Speaker 5: their music in our house, and we live by it
- 52:43Speaker 5: and we reference it.
- 52:45Speaker 4: And that's what my goal was.
- 52:48Speaker 5: I wanted to have a career like Frankie Beverly and Mays,
- 52:52Speaker 5: and somebody else would be like, well, what.
- 52:53Speaker 4: Do you mean Frankie Beverly and Mays? Not everybody knows them.
- 52:56Speaker 4: What Frankie Beverly and Mays could do twenty five years
- 53:00Speaker 4: without having an album is sell out an arena and
- 53:04Speaker 4: everybody's gonna show up in white and everybody's gonna sing
- 53:07Speaker 4: with all of their hearts arms in the air. That's
- 53:12Speaker 4: what I wanted for myself and I and I have it.
- 53:20Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to take a nap.
- 53:24Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen appreciate you.
- 53:34Speaker 1: I hope you get that nap. That's divine. Go get
- 53:38Speaker 1: that nap. You deserve it, Your soul deserves it.
- 53:40Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, it's Jill Scott it's the Breakfast Club.
- 53:47Speaker 5: Good morning, shine, hey,