Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Dr. JohnRich R. Levine, Chief Nursing Officer (CNO), Reeves Regional Health
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- 0:32This is Laura Deirdre with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:34podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:36John Rich Levine, chief nursing officer of Reeves
- 0:39Regional Health. John Rich, it's a pleasure to
- 0:41have you on the podcast today. Thank you,
- 0:43Laura.
- 0:44Now I'm looking forward to our discussion because
- 0:46I know we'll dig a little bit deeper
- 0:47into some of the great things you're doing
- 0:49at Reeves Regional and how you're thinking about
- 0:52the future. But before we dive in, can
- 0:54you tell me a little bit more about
- 0:55yourself and Reeves Regional Health?
- 0:58Yes. Thank you. So, again, my name is,
- 1:01doctor John Rich Levine. I am the current
- 1:03chief nursing officer at Reeves Regional Health
- 1:06in Pecos, Texas, that is West Of Texas.
- 1:10Our hospital serves as a large serves a
- 1:12large
- 1:13area in West Of Texas and the families
- 1:17who live and work throughout the entire region.
- 1:21And, this hospital, which is our teams, they
- 1:24care for ranchers,
- 1:26oilfield workers,
- 1:27teachers,
- 1:28travelers on long highways, and even many others
- 1:32who rely on us for safe care and
- 1:34a steady presence
- 1:35during crucial
- 1:36moments, like there was, recent last year, we
- 1:40have this huge train wreck, and they we
- 1:42cater to those,
- 1:44casualties because we're the only ones available.
- 1:47Reeves embodies the spirit of a frontier
- 1:50hospital,
- 1:51and that is combined with the discipline of
- 1:54modern health system as well. We have a
- 1:56brand new hospital
- 1:58building that,
- 2:00the county
- 2:01bought for us, and our teams take pride
- 2:04in a strong clinical judgment
- 2:06with clear communication because we're a small
- 2:10organization.
- 2:11We also have, we pride ourselves with firm
- 2:13commitment to reliability
- 2:16because to us every improvement is viewed from
- 2:19a rural perspective
- 2:20where access and trust are highly valued
- 2:24and this approach
- 2:26shapes our work and fosters a close partnership
- 2:30with the community we serve.
- 2:32That's amazing to hear. And, you know, really,
- 2:34such a great service you're providing that community
- 2:37and certainly serving an important population.
- 2:40Now when you think about the last year
- 2:42or so, what was the most important initiative
- 2:44you led? What did you do, and what
- 2:45were the results?
- 2:47Yeah. The last this year, that's 2025.
- 2:51Actually, we're still not there. Right? But we're
- 2:53we're getting there. So as we close the
- 2:55year, it really is important for us to
- 2:58remember what what happened to us. And the
- 3:00most critical
- 3:02initiative that led us for this year was
- 3:04the the focus on clarity and consistency.
- 3:09We established a unified nursing governance
- 3:12pathway across the entire hospital.
- 3:15Also, each of our departments set up a
- 3:17clear structure for
- 3:22policy management,
- 3:24competency
- 3:25requirements,
- 3:26and daily routines that are responsible for our
- 3:29results.
- 3:30So aside from that, we also establish shared
- 3:33processes for
- 3:34safety huddles, which is, if you would think
- 3:37in critical access, what is that huddle all
- 3:40about? And we want to implement that and
- 3:42it's safety huddles for us. We also have
- 3:44the bedside communication,
- 3:47rapid review of real time risks that could
- 3:50happen.
- 3:51All these things enabled every nurse to assume
- 3:54a leadership role and enhance
- 3:56their reliability
- 3:57at the point of care. It's not just
- 4:00focused on the nursing leaders, but leaders at
- 4:03the bedside as well.
- 4:05And, doing this, the results are evident in
- 4:07our performance. Our antibiotic timing, we improved that
- 4:11very significantly.
- 4:13Our surgical services have become more prepared.
- 4:16Our care teams have enhanced communication and collaboration
- 4:20across the medical surgical units,
- 4:22ICU,
- 4:24our obstetrics,
- 4:25our emergency departments, including even our swing beds
- 4:29and perioperative
- 4:30services. In fact, even our hospital operated
- 4:34outpatient clinic and our wound care, dialysis, and
- 4:38home health services,
- 4:39all of this, our community sees more coordinated
- 4:43hospital with clear guidance
- 4:45that our nurses feel that that this direction
- 4:48every day.
- 4:49Before this before this year,
- 4:53we were kinda like I,
- 4:56isolated and,
- 4:58with with each other. Now we converged it,
- 5:00and I think that is the most critical
- 5:01initiative that we had this year.
- 5:05That makes a lot of sense and is
- 5:06really helpful to understand. I think as you
- 5:08mentioned, just so important to have that type
- 5:10of communication and and real understanding in in
- 5:13care coordination.
- 5:14I'm curious as you're working on, you know,
- 5:17converging,
- 5:18these leaders in in in, different folks who
- 5:21are typically
- 5:22operating a little bit more isolated. What did
- 5:24you do to make that go smoothly? I
- 5:26know sometimes these these types of changes,
- 5:29can be a bit of a struggle to
- 5:31make sure they're,
- 5:32complied by all. But, you know,
- 5:35I guess, how did that transition go, and
- 5:36what did you do to make sure that,
- 5:38you know, people were buying into,
- 5:41new processes that you had?
- 5:43Yeah.
- 5:44It it took a lot of effort, I
- 5:46would say. Effort in the sense that we
- 5:49have to spend time listening. So we have
- 5:51this listening and learning tours that we did
- 5:54throughout every department, every team, every
- 5:58and then we sit down with them and
- 6:00it takes a while to build those trust,
- 6:02and then they come out and really
- 6:06go around
- 6:07and acknowledge that the entire team is us.
- 6:10It is not one isolated from the other,
- 6:12but it is just us. It is one
- 6:14hospital,
- 6:15it is one purpose,
- 6:16and it is one,
- 6:19outcome that we want and that is
- 6:21service to our community. So we looked into
- 6:24that and
- 6:25we thought that,
- 6:26when we gathered all of them and focused
- 6:29on one simple direction,
- 6:31We made everybody
- 6:32cooperate, and now we we got the entire
- 6:35result that we enjoy now.
- 6:39That's great to hear. Now looking ahead into
- 6:41the next year, what are some of your
- 6:43big priorities as well as headwinds for 2026?
- 6:47Well, that's really interesting because
- 6:49our priority is
- 6:51so we established that in 2025,
- 6:53and so that becomes our priority for 2026
- 6:56to stabilize it with purpose. So you can
- 7:00see, rural hospitals succeed with teams that it
- 7:03that builds confidence in their rhythm, so it
- 7:06has to be sustained.
- 7:08And for me, as the chief nursing officer,
- 7:10I focus on strengthening that rhythm through
- 7:14talent
- 7:15development, simple governance,
- 7:17clear visibility
- 7:18into performance,
- 7:20being seen, being present in the units and
- 7:23in departments,
- 7:24and being there for them.
- 7:26For us workforce evolution,
- 7:29as we can see, it progresses nationwide.
- 7:32We also want to translate that into our
- 7:34level by prioritizing
- 7:36early investment in communication.
- 7:39So we have this leadership,
- 7:41development program that's ongoing. No matter how small
- 7:44we are, we're still leaders, so we wanna
- 7:46still train them continuously.
- 7:48And we have this mentorship program and we
- 7:51have this,
- 7:52intensive first year experiences
- 7:54for new nurses. We have
- 7:56CNO, a breakfast with CNO. So then they
- 7:59can just see that we are there for
- 8:01them. Our challenges stem from familiar sources, and
- 8:05you can you can probably,
- 8:07are familiar with this too. Limited resources,
- 8:11see that? And also broad geographic needs. We
- 8:14are the only hospital in the 100
- 8:17mile
- 8:18radius.
- 8:19So there is a broad geographic need as
- 8:21you can tell. The complex demands of our
- 8:24patients, they never go down, they go up.
- 8:26Our strength lies in discipline and in our
- 8:29teamwork,
- 8:30and, we grow our capacity
- 8:32through simple, repeatable routines and partnerships that enable
- 8:36our community to access care close to home.
- 8:39So these are our big priorities, and and
- 8:41these are the headwinds that we wanna address
- 8:44as we move forward being able to
- 8:46maintain sustainability
- 8:48with what we just built.
- 8:51Absolutely. I know that is so critical to
- 8:53have that type of, consistency and figure out
- 8:56how to continue to pivot,
- 8:59as needed, especially as you mentioned, you know,
- 9:02just a lot of, different things happening, very
- 9:05familiar challenges and you continue to be, you
- 9:07know, resource,
- 9:09needing to to make sure you've got the
- 9:10right resources. So I I think, you know,
- 9:13when you look at that type of landscape,
- 9:15obviously, you've made a lot of changes in
- 9:16the last year. And looking ahead,
- 9:19what is the hardest thing you'll have to
- 9:21do in the coming year?
- 9:23Laura.
- 9:25I think that the hardest thing
- 9:27that I will have to do in the
- 9:29coming year with all this in place and
- 9:31what we have started in 2025
- 9:34is maintaining
- 9:35the progress
- 9:37with grace, and I think that is very
- 9:39important because it could be
- 9:41turmoil, it could be chaos. Every improvement that
- 9:44we bring,
- 9:46also brings in new habits, and,
- 9:48those habits need daily
- 9:51reinforcement. So that could be the hardest thing
- 9:53for me. My role is to establish a
- 9:55pace
- 9:57that our teams can sustain,
- 9:59and it involves clear expectations. It also involves
- 10:02consistent coaching,
- 10:05thoughtful accountability,
- 10:08and the calm presence that I've mentioned before,
- 10:11even in high pressure moments, because you never
- 10:13know these high pressure moments will come, and
- 10:16they will come. It's not a matter of
- 10:18whether they will or not, it's only a
- 10:19matter of when are they coming. Are we
- 10:22prepared for that?
- 10:24So,
- 10:25leaders like me in rural healthcare,
- 10:27we bear
- 10:29the unique
- 10:30responsibility and our teams know every family we
- 10:33serve, we shop with them, we meet their
- 10:36parents or their kids or their neighbors, friends,
- 10:40wherever we are,
- 10:41every success and setback here with that personal
- 10:45significance. And the hardest part for me is
- 10:47respecting that reality
- 10:49while, guiding our teams through growth that benefits
- 10:53the entire region.
- 10:56That makes a lot of sense, you know,
- 10:57and it's a huge huge responsibility.
- 11:00But, you know, in knowing your leadership style
- 11:03and the study,
- 11:05you know, I guess, grace as you put
- 11:07it, that you bring to this role, you
- 11:09know, having a a leader like that and
- 11:11a leader like you at the home,
- 11:13with with the nursing teams, I I can
- 11:15imagine,
- 11:17means a a great deal to the health
- 11:18system overall.
- 11:20Now
- 11:21what do you see as some of the
- 11:22best opportunities for organizational growth?
- 11:26Well, people.
- 11:28Growth for us starts with people.
- 11:32So every hospital probably
- 11:34I I I would say that every hospital
- 11:37has challenges with people, maintaining people, and retaining
- 11:41people, and that will be
- 11:43one of the best opportunities for us to
- 11:45grow
- 11:47with. Skilled nurses like allied health teams, they
- 11:50form the foundation of our
- 11:52service line that we provide, and we just
- 11:54open at least three
- 11:56this year, and that's a lot. You open
- 11:59one service line
- 12:01a year,
- 12:02that's a lot. We open three.
- 12:04So, but when talent thrives, the quality will
- 12:08also improve and the community gains confidence in
- 12:11the care that we deliver to them. So
- 12:13we're being being very careful with that. We're
- 12:16being very careful with opening new service lines,
- 12:19but we are also able to deliver it
- 12:21or measure up to it. We also see
- 12:25tremendous opportunities in partnerships.
- 12:27As you can see, if we don't partner,
- 12:30we're just dead on ourselves,
- 12:31it's hard to survive.
- 12:33Rural hospitals like us can advance through our
- 12:37collaboration
- 12:37with regional systems
- 12:40across
- 12:41our area.
- 12:42We have academic centers that we want to
- 12:44partner with, public health partners that monitors us
- 12:48and, you know, help us, and our community
- 12:51organizations as well, so
- 12:53schools,
- 12:55civic organizations.
- 12:56This leads us to improve specialty access
- 12:59and the knowledge and awareness that we do
- 13:02exist in the neighborhood.
- 13:04Will also, it will also enable us to
- 13:06have more coordinated care pathways and smoother transitions
- 13:10for patients from us to other facilities that,
- 13:13are able to deliver higher care.
- 13:16Some of the best,
- 13:17opportunities for organizational
- 13:19growth is this. We start with people.
- 13:22In January, we will start with our leadership
- 13:25and,
- 13:26mentorship
- 13:27program.
- 13:29Our region is very vibrant,
- 13:31Lower West Texas.
- 13:33There is a lot of resilient
- 13:36spirit
- 13:37in our neighborhood.
- 13:38So growth comes from consistent
- 13:41excellence in daily practices. I always emphasize that
- 13:45only excellence is rewarded.
- 13:47So there is thoughtful data utilization,
- 13:50and we also have that service mindset that
- 13:54respects
- 13:54the West Texas culture,
- 13:57because we know that Reeves Regional Health has
- 14:00great potential for the entire region and our
- 14:03teams are our only tool who are working
- 14:06toward that future with a clear sense of
- 14:08purpose, and that's what we want to see,
- 14:11we want to harness
- 14:13and, take advantage of those opportunities for organizational
- 14:17growth.
- 14:19I love that. John Rich, thank you so
- 14:20much for joining us on the podcast today.
- 14:22This has been such a fantastic conversation. I
- 14:25I think, you know, I learned a lot
- 14:26from you, especially looking at some of the
- 14:28challenges in rural health care and everything that
- 14:31you're doing, organization wide. It's just been critical.
- 14:34I am excited to see you as well.
- 14:36And, April, at our annual meeting, I know
- 14:37you'll be speaking at a panel, and, it's
- 14:40just always truly a blessing to have you
- 14:42there and and share some of the real
- 14:43practical,
- 14:44tips that you have and the things that
- 14:46have worked well for you at Reeves Regional.
- 14:48So I'm looking forward to doing that and,
- 14:50continuing the conversation there. Yes. We'll see you
- 14:53there.