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Italy crash out of Nations League vs Germany - Reaction - Ep. 259 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: Another Italy elimination in Germany feels like it's the story
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  Speaker 1: of the past twelve months. Here on the couch, guys, Agiano, Jenny,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nicholas. It's got to be the three of us
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  Speaker 1: when it's the only team that we actually all support
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  Speaker 1: together besides like Canada soccer, Canada hockey.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever, Uh, guys, how's it going?
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  Speaker 3: But it's it's going. I mean, thank you we're recording
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  Speaker 3: here Wednesday night instead of Monday, because I think Monday
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  Speaker 3: would have been a more of a rage fest. But
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  Speaker 3: happy to be back, not on these terms, but always
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  Speaker 3: a pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay.
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing okay, surviving, that's what matters.
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  Speaker 2: Busy, busy, busy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, Jenny, you were was it?
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  Speaker 2: Was it this weekend? You're traveling so you didn't get to.
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  Speaker 4: Or you've been traveling every weekend and this weekend. No,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm traveling next weekend, this upcoming weekend and the
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  Speaker 4: weekend after. So unfortunately, I've just been been been running
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  Speaker 4: around a lot.
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  Speaker 3: But what's up.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was gonna say, did you have the misfortune
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  Speaker 1: of watching Italy's games?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I was lucky to avoid them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I following along through through Twitter because I was like
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  Speaker 4: that because I was on probably on the road or
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  Speaker 4: doing something or tutoring or whatever. It was. So and
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  Speaker 4: I have a chance to watch the games, but I
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  Speaker 4: see there was a lot of frustration, a lot of negative,
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  Speaker 4: negative comments and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So oh yeah, yeah, I don't know where do you
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  Speaker 1: want to start because it started off well Thursday. Look, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we recorded on Wednesday night, so since we last spoke.
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  Speaker 2: Italy played twice.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if I don't think we
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  Speaker 1: need to talk about it each game individually, but more
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  Speaker 1: games as well. And I think I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: more about Sunday's game because that's.
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  Speaker 2: Where there's so many problems.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, it started off.
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  Speaker 1: Well to now in the ninth minute, scores and he
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  Speaker 1: scores in his former home stadium. You know, everyone's saying,
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  Speaker 1: this is the guy that Italy missed during the Euros.
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  Speaker 2: It looks good, you know, blah blah. Play It was okay.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't have too many chances.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was one chance I ken missed after that,
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  Speaker 1: but then Germany just kind of took over the second
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  Speaker 1: half goals by h Sorry if I can't pronounce the
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  Speaker 1: name cleansedat I clean steam. I don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: pronounce the name forty ninth minute started second half, and
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  Speaker 1: then Gretska in the seventy.
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  Speaker 2: Sixth So two to one.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, if you would have told us two
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  Speaker 1: to one before that game, I think we would have
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  Speaker 1: been okay, because look, we're talking about it on Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: and I forget who said, like you there'd be.
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  Speaker 2: One draw and one loss or one draw and one
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  Speaker 2: win for Italy.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was Ja, you know, I said, I
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  Speaker 4: said it's like a two to one, and then hoping
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  Speaker 4: for a miracle in the second game, and I called
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  Speaker 4: the first game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we almost got a miracle in the second game.
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  Speaker 1: But so you no, no, Johnny's.
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  Speaker 3: Over here again at it again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys had any specific thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on the first game alone.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, I mean listen for the first game. I think,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, Nick started off, Uh, well, I guess
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  Speaker 3: you can if you want to say, well, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with the starting lineup, we're really sure what to get,
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  Speaker 3: especially with at the right wing back position. But he's
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  Speaker 3: the one who kind of got the uh the indirect
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  Speaker 3: assist I guess on that play, he's the one that
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  Speaker 3: kind of poked it through and uh, you know I
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  Speaker 3: found you know, terrible queens, but I think Jonathan Toff,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a mistaken for Germany and it finds now his
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  Speaker 3: foot and he's able to to put it past. Uh
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  Speaker 3: about mean to go the keeper? Uh what a moment,
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  Speaker 3: what a what a what a start? You know, we
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  Speaker 3: we even call it called it for that as well
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  Speaker 3: on Wednesdays. Uh, you know what last week's show on
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday kind we were saying, like, okay, who has to
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  Speaker 3: be maybe the people or the players to kind of
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  Speaker 3: step up and and really take charge. And I know
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  Speaker 3: we mentioned bus TONI, we mentioned Keen and you know
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  Speaker 3: I threw in the Tonali as well, and he managed
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  Speaker 3: to get you know, the crucial goal at the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know what, guys, I don't know. Uh
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  Speaker 3: it's Italy switched off, you know for two halves in
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  Speaker 3: these two legs, and it costed them. It costed them
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  Speaker 3: big time. Obviously this is not you know, the be
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  Speaker 3: all and all in terms of tournaments, but it's still
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  Speaker 3: a disappointing way to go. It's a frustrating way to go.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's you know, unacceptable way to go as well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, kind of shutting off in that second half,
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  Speaker 3: which I don't understand why, you know, nothing was kind
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  Speaker 3: of really going right.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, credit to uh to nagels Men making the
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  Speaker 3: sub and the striker their client, client dying show, whatever
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  Speaker 3: his name is there, scored pretty much right after the halftime,
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  Speaker 3: after the sub, so obviously it was impact sub for them,
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  Speaker 3: and then finishing off the game once again off of
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  Speaker 3: a corner and another header uh in in the back
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  Speaker 3: of the net. And you know, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like we could we keep on getting burned by
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  Speaker 3: these these headers, these these set pieces, these you know,
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  Speaker 3: actions in the box. We always seem to get burned somehow,
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  Speaker 3: even though I put faith in the in the people
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  Speaker 3: that we have in our defense.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a shame because you know, don Ruma, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Dona Ruma keeps us, keeps us in these games, and
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  Speaker 3: we just let them, you know, let them out to dry. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, into into back to back games and many
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  Speaker 3: times even in the past, really so uh disappointing. In
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  Speaker 3: the first Johnny, I don't know if you had anything
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  Speaker 3: else to add to the first, but you know, I
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  Speaker 3: know it's going to bleed into our second the second match,
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  Speaker 3: but just I don't think the right the right mentality
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  Speaker 3: in the second half and us switching off. You know
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  Speaker 3: already we're curse at the sense at all we managed
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  Speaker 3: to escape there with a two one result. Okay, you
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  Speaker 3: know what, there's a second leg. We have a chance
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  Speaker 3: to maybe you know, make it up. You know in
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  Speaker 3: dortmun Uh, you know, have some success there in the past.
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  Speaker 3: You know, kind of want to maybe watch onto that,
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  Speaker 3: even though it's not always the best mentality to have,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, we can go back to Germany and
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  Speaker 3: try to get a get a result. And if you
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  Speaker 3: listen to what he has to say after the first match,
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  Speaker 3: you know he's he's saying the distance between the you know,
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  Speaker 3: Italy Germany is is not too far. We're right there.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously the first half of the second game proved otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, guys, I don't know, just switched off, lack
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  Speaker 3: of focus, nothing going offensively, making late subs. It was
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  Speaker 3: just I don't know if you guys took anything away
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  Speaker 3: from us from the games from the first game always, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, as you like to say, it's a Tale of
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  Speaker 4: two Halves. It's the famous it is the famous Adri line.
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  Speaker 4: This game was a perfect definition. But I think both
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  Speaker 4: games essentially were just a perfect definition of a tale
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  Speaker 4: two halves. It just it didn't seem like there was
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  Speaker 4: a full one hundred percent effort, Like it just seemed like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I won't like things just didn't go right
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  Speaker 4: the first time, or it took him took Spalletti a
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  Speaker 4: while to figure out the second time. You know, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like as if you wanted to experiment something with
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  Speaker 4: using players like Maldini in the second game, even in
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  Speaker 4: the even in the first game, you know, just wanted
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  Speaker 4: to give him a shot, Like you can't discredit the
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  Speaker 4: guy for trying out, trying out different different things. People
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  Speaker 4: got mad at Mancini were constantly using the same people
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  Speaker 4: all the time, and you know, not looking towards others.
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  Speaker 4: And now they're kind of roasting Spilletti for like actually
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  Speaker 4: trying out different talents. But yes, obviously it remains to
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  Speaker 4: be said that you know, guys players like Osolini not
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  Speaker 4: getting a call up obviously is a very big, very
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  Speaker 4: big mistake, very big error on his part. And there's
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  Speaker 4: some talents that do deserve to not be there and
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  Speaker 4: have them replaced, Like I'm not one of the sense
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  Speaker 4: of like a whole like polytaal thing like I'm on
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  Speaker 4: But like that Aspadoti getting criticized pissed me off because
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  Speaker 4: Espadoti isn't a problem for the team. He's a He's
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  Speaker 4: a solid like secondary striker, like substriker, whatever you.
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  Speaker 3: Want to use him for.
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  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think he's I don't think he's one
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  Speaker 4: of the issues, you know, like with the Spiletti nepotism.
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  Speaker 4: But I think for for him, it was just trying
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  Speaker 4: to get He's still trying to get things to work out.
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  Speaker 4: And I think having players like Di Matco not there,
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  Speaker 4: who's the best I think right now he is the
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  Speaker 4: best Italian player that's available, you know, not be on
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  Speaker 4: that roster makes a big difference. I think his presence
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  Speaker 4: was was deeply missed in like the middle of the field,
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  Speaker 4: like defense, like offensive half, so to speak, like like
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  Speaker 4: a player like Demonco could have probably like changed things,
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  Speaker 4: you know. So I think it's that I think a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people really crapped on the Lorenzo so much.
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  Speaker 4: But the Lorenzo what like, like I've said many times,
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  Speaker 4: is not used to a three man back line. He's
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  Speaker 4: not a defender for a three man backline, so Spalletti
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  Speaker 4: needs to either use him wider or just you know,
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  Speaker 4: she's a four man back line if you needs a
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  Speaker 4: player like the Lorenzo. But then once again, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: that's the napoly nepotism that's coming into play for that.
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  Speaker 4: So I I think the one thing that we really
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  Speaker 4: need to focus on is some big names not being
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  Speaker 4: there at Deggy not being there also up front. I
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  Speaker 4: just remembered about him, you know, having one of the
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  Speaker 4: hottest city strikers right now on the roster. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's just more of players missing and some players not
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  Speaker 4: being selected are reflective this result. But I mean, we'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about it more after the second game, but it
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  Speaker 4: kind of played into our favor not beating Germany to
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  Speaker 4: give them the group that we got for the World
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  Speaker 4: Cup qualifying. But that's that's that's a bridge that will
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  Speaker 4: cross when we get there.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But that those are my those are my two sets
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  Speaker 4: about the game.
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  Speaker 1: What I think, you know, you talk about you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tael two halves. We didn't see the best, but like
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  Speaker 1: right now, like what's the best for Italy. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen a good Italy team, a good ninety minute game
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  Speaker 1: since when the Albanian game in the Euros and that
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  Speaker 1: that game was good for eighty nine minutes and thirty seconds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know they played. I know they beat Belgium, won
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  Speaker 1: nothing in the Nations League last time out there was
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  Speaker 1: there was a game versus France in September. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's these these sporadic games, but we haven't seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of consistency. It's three games in a row now
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  Speaker 1: that Italy hasn't won. Look, they lost to France three
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  Speaker 1: to one in November, which is reason why they even
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  Speaker 1: had to play Germany in this instead of winning the
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  Speaker 1: group and then obviously Germany TI Germany. And it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's not a good period right now for the jury,
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  Speaker 1: right and and it's hard because it you know, Johnny say,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of names are there. Obviously rare Tegi's the
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  Speaker 1: main one. How much would he have changed the outcome?
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  Speaker 3: It can't be an excuse. It can't be an excuse
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  Speaker 3: because Germany did didn't Germany didn't have all their top
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  Speaker 3: players as well, so it can't be an excuse. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to hear that that, yeah, we're missing players,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine. I agree, I agree, but currently and said, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we have two of the hardest strikers at Taggi and Keen.
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  Speaker 3: Keene obviously did well in the second game. We saw
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  Speaker 3: what he was able to do in that second half
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  Speaker 3: that you know, the only guy that were one of
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  Speaker 3: the only players that seem to have you know, some
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  Speaker 3: hustle and you know he's you know, he's a true
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  Speaker 3: pro and in finding the back of the head on
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  Speaker 3: his on his chances in that second half of the
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  Speaker 3: second game there. But you know, yes, the Marco hurts, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: the teg he hurts. I think even Cambiaso, even though
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  Speaker 3: I'm not I was never the biggest uh you know
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  Speaker 3: fan of his, but you know, for the Azuri and
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  Speaker 3: I got to see him why like I said, you
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  Speaker 3: know back in October, uh you know him and DeMarco
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  Speaker 3: on the Franks do damage. Is he having the best
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  Speaker 3: season on You've No, is You've having the best season
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  Speaker 3: as a whole. No, But just to say, I think
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  Speaker 3: some of these players that are missing, Okay, we can
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  Speaker 3: account for that. I understand it hurts, it hurts the lineup,
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  Speaker 3: but I still think we have quality, you know, elsewhere
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  Speaker 3: in the roster. Does this show on the pitch for
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  Speaker 3: ninety minutes?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: You know, every every game it seems to be. No.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a mentality thing, if that's
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  Speaker 3: a tactics thing. We can debate that for hours, because guys,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like for me, you want to say,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't seen this, we haven't seen that. But for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, I do see quality on this team.
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  Speaker 3: It's putting it all the pieces together to really make
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  Speaker 3: something happen, isn't Everything doesn't help them when we go
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  Speaker 3: lose a guy like Cala Fiori on a on just
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  Speaker 3: a spadaca and a half and and you know, obviously
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  Speaker 3: you know Fox up his knee. But it's I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if it's unlucky or what do you want to
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  Speaker 3: call it, but it's it can't be that. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Italy is struggling against not a top Germany team. They're
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  Speaker 3: great players, they have a great squad, don't get me wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but they're not at their best either. And we have
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  Speaker 3: to suffer and we have to do it the hard way,
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  Speaker 3: and we always have to come back and we have
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  Speaker 3: to go down. You know, three nothing to wake up?
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  Speaker 3: Why do we have to Why do we have to
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  Speaker 3: wake up after three goals scored? On the second goal
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  Speaker 3: in the second game, that is a fucking joke. Guys
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  Speaker 3: like that is that should never happen, not even not
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  Speaker 3: even on Sunday League Total Campo, whatever you want to
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  Speaker 3: call it, you ten, that doesn't happen. The coaches are
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  Speaker 3: smarter than that, right, the players are smarter than that.
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  Speaker 3: You couldnot let that second goal happen.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think the second game brings more rage,
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  Speaker 3: I always say out of me, just because of you know,
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  Speaker 3: the you know, the stupidities that happened throughout that game.
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  Speaker 3: But if we're sticking on the first game before we
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  Speaker 3: breed into the second match, I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 3: I think we could have we got burned on two
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  Speaker 3: step pieces, right or you know, the cross into the
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  Speaker 3: box by Kei mich I think was a free kick
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  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, or if it was in open player,
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. But he swings it into the box,
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  Speaker 3: a good cross. He gets between our two defenders, the
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  Speaker 3: the the corner again, Greska in the midst of everybody
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  Speaker 3: finds finds a header, fights fights the head on it,
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  Speaker 3: and and and you know, angles it into the net.
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  Speaker 1: Even that at first it looked like the Olympic Olympic goal.
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  Speaker 1: An Olympic goal goal too to that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I didn't realize he actually got his
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  Speaker 2: head on it.
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  Speaker 3: Me neither. I still, you know what I never saw.
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  Speaker 3: I never ended up seeing like another replay, clearly, but
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I never even saw that he got a
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  Speaker 3: head onto it. And it's like, you know, there we go,
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  Speaker 3: we're down to two to one and we don't have
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  Speaker 3: a fight back. You know, Keen was getting Keen. I
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  Speaker 3: found it was a bit on an island. He didn't
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  Speaker 3: really have much support. Uh, you know, maybe it's a
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  Speaker 3: formation thing again, like Johnny said, like we haven't been
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  Speaker 3: able to to maybe field our best eleven, maybe find
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  Speaker 3: our best eleven, maybe find our perfect formation. Like he's been,
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  Speaker 3: he's spelet he's been experimenting, and I do agree. Has
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  Speaker 3: he been kind of rigid on the formation? Yes, he
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  Speaker 3: seems to think that what we have at our disposal
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  Speaker 3: works with that formation. That could be true as well.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to say no because it has. But
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  Speaker 3: when we're struggling and then we have our striker kind
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  Speaker 3: of on an island, not getting serviced. We're losing fifty
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  Speaker 3: to fifty balls. We're playing behind the eight ball. We're
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  Speaker 3: never going to come back in matches like that. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is if they need to
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  Speaker 3: put two strikers up there, and you know, he takes
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  Speaker 3: out Keen and brings in Luca at the end of
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: the game, where you know, what are you going to
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: expect a miracle out of Lorenzo Luca just in the
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: eightieth minute? What every time he got subbed in. It's
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: they need to have that fire early. I thought they
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  Speaker 3: I thought they were going through after the to now
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  Speaker 3: we go. I thought it was going to be more
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  Speaker 3: of a you know, okay, wow, we actually got on
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  Speaker 3: to the front foot. We kind of said it last week.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: You know, if they kind of start early with a goal,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: it could it could be in their favor. Unfortunately, you know,
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: it wasn't to be. And uh, you know, they screwed
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: themselves in the second game as well.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You know, you talk about formation and players like all that,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: and it's hard because this is a national team. At
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you can't make uh transfers,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to deal with what you have,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and that's what Conte was so good at.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I know we're going back like ten years now, right already.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that I'm just saying, that's the mentality you
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: need to have as a coach. Take what you have
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: and get the most of it. You're given eleven pieces
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: of wood, make a nice coffee table or something.
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Ah, So are you saying that spoetis not capable of
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: doing that or he hasn't been able to show that yet.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to show that yet. I think
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: he honestly, I think he could be capable of doing it.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I think he is a smart coach. Look, he took
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: a Napoli team that you know, on paper wasn't the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: best that season. Yes, you could say Cavara nobody expected to.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Nobody expected Tavara to be as good as he was
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that season. But he took a Napoli team to the Scudetto.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: He had the players. I know, it's different. He was
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: able to get transfers, but he had the players and
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: and the some of the parts, what was it? Some
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of the parts is greater than the whole. What's the expression? Johnny,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: you're the You're the you're the professor here, you know
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you mean. Hold on that the
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: some of the parts.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: No, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: something like that, whatever, you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Guys, the parts is greater than the whole.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, the philosophy, guys, there you go.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, the hole is greater than some of its parts.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exact would considered as a hole is more
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: effective complex exactly exactly. So I think that's the mentality
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: that you need right now. There's no superstar, you know.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Even it's always been that way though it's never really
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: been a team. It's but it's never been a team
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: of like like like, uh we have like we had
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: great players super.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Five years ago. That was the case. Then it stopped.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would think within the last yeah, like
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you said, twenty years.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: But even even when we wanted six, it's like those
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: guys were are like like sure, we consider them legends
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: and stuff and you know, phenomenal players, but they still
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: played as if they were like a unit. Like it
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: wasn't like as if it was a superstar. You know
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying like, look behind you. Yeah, yes, I'm
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: following them legends, listen, But but I'm trying to say,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you guys are not listening. What I'm trying to say
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: is that even though these guys are individually superstars, they
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: weren't like the way they played wasn't in a sense
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: of like individualistic identity or like reliance on like one
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: player to carry the team. It was a whole like
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: unit that did it. You know what I'm trying to say, say,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: we didn't have superstars, no, but like I mean, like say,
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: it was always like that where he always played as like.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: We didn't have a Ronaldo or a Messy if that's
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: what you're is.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: What I'm trying Essentially, if we had a bad Joe,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: we had a badger who never really got used as much.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Whenever he did get used, he carried a team, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: there was always a controversy behind that. The guy couldn't
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: stay healthy and people shot on him for no fucking reason.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: That's about it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Or you know Paul Rossi and you know in eighty two,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: like we had you.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Know, but but even Polarossi in eighty two was just
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: a miracle in a sense of like the guy wasn't
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: selected for the eighty team, and you know, he was
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: suspended and stuff, and you know, like it was just like, okay,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: well we're gonna FIGC was like okay, might as well, right,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, like he just came back and see what happens,
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: you know, and and next thing you know, he ends
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: up being the hero for eighty two. But like, but
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: even at that, like that entire run, like Paulodossi had
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: a phenomenal year. But if you look at the final,
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: there was three different scores that scored those three goals
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: against Germany. You know what I'm saying, Like it's that yeah,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: because he had the hat trick versus Brazil. If I
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: recall correctly I could. I'm going based off like pure
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: memory right now. So if the listeners are listening, apologies
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: if I'm making some history.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Before our time.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what you think.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: It was ten?
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I was born ten years later.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we we have pretty good knowledge of that game,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: even though we weren't around to see it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like like that final, I believe was three
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: different scorers. I'm saying the old six run like every yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: like oh six run, it was everybody contributed even though
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: there are superstars and legends, yes, everybody contributed. Our Euro
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty one was just like like we had no
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: legit superstar. It was a group thing, you know what
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it's that's what I'm saying, Like we
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: didn't have a superstar, mean in that we didn't have
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: like message, like a like like a one player really
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: like like like the only time you will ever see
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: that is ninety four. Bad Joe was in ninety Like
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Ali should have not gone past Nigeria, they should have
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: been eliminated by Nigeria. Yet somehow bad Joe took the
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: team on his back, carried them all the way to
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: the final and they lost in penalties to Brazil. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: it's one of the greatest Brazil teams that like it
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: was the start of like the brand new golden generation
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: of Brazil Brazil. So that's what I'm saying, like like
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I like, that's probably the last time Al've ever's I've
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: ever seen in my life where there's literally one player
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: that had carried a team to a finals, because even
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: twenty twelve with Balotelly, with Balotelli, bal Telly had a
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: phenomenal run that year, but the team was still great overall.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: The mid was phenomenal that year. You know, like a
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: lot of people really like like it was just it
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: was just beautiful pure. Pierlo was carried. Pierlo was putting
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: everybody in his pocket. For example, you know, uh my god,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Montolievo looked like look like generational talent in that in
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that run, you know, like it then what happened to
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: him after that?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You know, like down the down the gutter.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he still had he still had the juve back
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: line with Buffon and Nets. It was still like it
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: was still a good team, you know what I'm saying,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: Like it was just that's why you can't really that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: why I'm not gonna count Balow Telly's run as like
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the last time we had a superstar carry as to
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: a final, Like literally it was only Bad Joe in
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: ninety four and after that, it's like it was always been.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: So that's what I'm That's what I mean when I said,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: like we never really had an individualistic superstar? Are that really?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Makes Italy the national Theazuri like great, It's always been
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: a unity. They succeed as a team, and when they succeed,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: they succeed and they fail horribly as a team. It's
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: always been like that. It's it's it's it's it's rare.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Like we're lucky though. We're lucky because like look at
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: like it looks like a nation like Romania, right, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: like they had a hagi and then that's it. They
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: never had any more generational talent like that. You know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: you look at it like like like like Croatia, Like
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I was talking about it with one of my friends today,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: shout out to Brendan. He's hat Cerasian app Italian, like
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: like Croatia finally had a golden generation, but now it's
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: starting to fade out, and it's like who do you
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: have that's really like like out of this new golden generation,
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: now that's the remaining you know, like it's like nobody's
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: gonna be able to carry that team. They had a
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: great team, but like you know what I mean, like
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: they have it's like all of these times, it's just
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: like one and Done's it's rare that you'll have a country.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: We're very lucky to be Italian, to have Italy still
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: constantly produced players that are good enough to make the
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: team competitive. And then every once in a while, we
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: just get a wave of like these players that are
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: just like locked in or they just get this miracle
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: run and they win because they have the capabilities of
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: doing so. But it's always a team it's always a
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: team effort.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe no, maybe at that point, it even comes
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: down to players' mentality because you know, I don't want
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to overuse this word, but Greenta, right, guys like so
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: much we see how much these days, you know, I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's it's the fact that these guys
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: are all coming from different clubs and leagues and different
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: parts of the world and modern football, they're all worried
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: more about their toe injury than their club And you know, look,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to come in on rit Tiggy. I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: don't know what his injury is, but I wouldn't be
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: surprised if he's playing this weekend for for Atalanta.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: You know, I understand that side too, because these clubs
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: want to protect their assets and they don't want to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: send these players off to these national games.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So it's you know, it's.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Also tough because it is the Nations League and it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the season, right. This is different
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: than the Euros is different than the World Cup, regardless, but.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: They didn't show up in the Euros anyway, the.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: One game for Selmedia and in the last ten minutes
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: versus Croatia exactly.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But where they didn't show up was that corner
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: kick against your Minian.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: And when I saw that, I said, you know what,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this this is over, I thought when I first saw it,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: saw it, I thought it. You know, the referee didn't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: blow his whistler, you get called back or something, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: no legitimate play and it's embarrassing. I mean major you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: talked about it, total Campbele play. And after that, like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I couldn't watch the whole game. I had
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to go out hockey at six, So I watched, Uh,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I watched the first half.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: By the time I left, the first half.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Of starting and so sorry, second half was starting. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: once that goal happened at you know, when you're just
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you know, watching something on this, I'm not paying attention.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That was me, you know, I was surprised that, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I was going to hockey. I got you know, before
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: hockey in the dress room. I kept seeing the updates
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: of the goals. I was a bit surprised.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: You know ding ding ding.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were coming back. What the heck's happening? So
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that's good in that regard. But to think they lost
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: pretty much good?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You don't you don't allow that goal?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You don't, you know it's it would be tied, right
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: at least it would go to extra time. Yeah, So
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that's frustrating.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: But I rather that happened in a nation league, a
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: nation's league game, than like at a major competition. Yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: because it's a lesson learned for the team. That's that's
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: the way I see it. You know, like you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: it's it's something that, like you know what, you're gonna
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: get burnt on it once. It's never gonna happen again,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: but you need to get you need to touch the
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: hot stove to feel the pain of it, and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: you learn your lesson.
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: Poet said it too, right, He's like, I guess it's
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: better that we did and see that goal that way
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: because now we now we'll be able to learn from it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But in my head, I'm like, if it takes you
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: to do a bonehead mistake like that to learn, wake
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: up man. But you're right, Johnny, I do agree with
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: what you're saying like you do, there's a point to
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: be made.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: There, Like mistakes, Yeah, like bonehead mistakes can happen to
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: anybody at any time, you know, like it's it's I
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: do agree that it is embarrassing. I will one hundred
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and ten percent agree that it is embarrassing because it
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: makes it look like as if like your team's going
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: to dis ray in the back. But then it's like now,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: now like Donald Duma for example, now he's gonna keep
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: a second eye out just in case, you know, in
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: case something's happening, if he needs to reorganize the team.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: No one's gonna like you know what I mean, like
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: not pay attention. They're gonna keep keep an eye out
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: like it's it's it's the way that you just need
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: to what you needed to happen once and then you
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: know you're not gonna make that same mistake twice. If
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: you make that same mistake twice, then questions need to
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: be asked.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Shame on you after Yeah, it was it for me
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: for me once. Shame on me for me twice. Shreame
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: on you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: And I thought it was like the office fully on
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: you pull me three times?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: A yeah, yeah, threek, I can't get any quotes in uh, correct.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Right, but it's for me once. Shame on you pull
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: me twice, shame on me.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Shame on me.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's it's the truth, and you know what
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: it what it is.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I think I think if I remember correctly, there was
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: something that happened like just before that, like uh, I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: don't know if there was a collision with donan Uma
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: before and when it went out for for the corner.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: And the problem is dun Room was a captain, so
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: like he's like the one that tries to go speak
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: to the raft. He tries to like make it make
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a bit of a scene. But again I think you
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: have to have a bit more of a level head. Again,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: it is a mistake. It does happen. They are human
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, uh, which which is fine,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: but just totally embarrassing.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: That might be a mistake in itself making you're making
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: your keeper to captain, you know.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, right, because he's he's if you want to
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: say the one player that is it's hard the keeper
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: can't really, I mean, they can only carry you so far.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: But I think like he's obviously at an upper level
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of of of quality. But he's between the pipes. So
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: his job is is is to keep us into games,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: keep us in games, make those crucial saves, those timely saves,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: and and you know he has right even on the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: even on the p K, which again I'm sorry, I
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: like bon Jordano, but uh Jordano, but you know, bonehead
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: mistake there too, right, Like he commits that foul in
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: the box, I think he has to be a bit
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: more self aware with that. Obviously. Maybe he was getting
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: bullied by that Clientige guy. I don't know, but it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: just a foul you cannot take in the box like
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that too. Already we're already in a in a negative
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: period after that first game, and start off the second
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: game with an early well a kind of early PK.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: It it doesn't help. No No almost gets there too, right,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: like he's just he's the king of p ks. Uh
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: he almost gets there, goes the right way and everything.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: So it's it. It was just a tough way to
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: go down. Uh when it became two nothing, it was
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: embarrassing in itself. The three nothing, you know before halftime, Uh,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it was was was almost upset. I don't even forgot
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: what the third goal was now what was the The
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: third goal was wind.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Again, right, client? Yeah, and I forget it was off
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: a corner or just across his back post.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Uh dumped on he dunked on the Orenzo. Yes, that's
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: it's correct. But again like and and then and then
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I see today you know, uh, you know, obviously with
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: with us getting uh the the what you call it
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the worke up qualifying groups set. Now after that that
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: watched the Germany, we're in the group of you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the Norway's, the Estonias, the Israel's, Moldova's of the world. Right,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I think it is so and already I see today, Oh,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: should we bring back at chadaby to to be able
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: to mark uh Holland because he did it for Inter
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: in the Champions League. But guys, how many times do
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: we have to go backwards to to be able to like?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Is it possible that we have to go backwards every
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: time to be able to go forward? It may there's
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: no sense to me that all we have to depend
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: on a Chadby who again good player, did his time.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: He's getting up there in age. I thought we were
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: past the time that the point of bringing back we
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: might as well bring back Killini at this point he
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: brings the same he can still suit up. It's it's
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: it's crazy, right, So you know I do like our defense.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys agree disagree. You know
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: it's BUTTONI is capable enough. I'm sorry, Like he shouldn't
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: be getting beat the way he was getting beat, and
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: both all our defenders were getting beat way too easily.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: That's on them to come out to come together as
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a as a core. If it be three, if it
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: be four, in the back, whoever's suiting up should be capable.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Especially our are our three true center backs in BOSTONI
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Calafioti when he's healthy, and and I know, I know
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: the Orengeo gets sorted into that center back position him too.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: He should be capable enough, because I think he is.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: I don't mind him as a player. I know he
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: gets a lot of a lot of shit, uh, not
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: only for the Azuri, but especially for Napu as well,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: which again he has he declined the bit. Yes, is
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: he still capable? I do think so, But you know it's, uh,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: why do we have to go back to a chat Toby,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: just for for a game that you know he's probably
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: not gonna be that we're gonna we're gonna. People are
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: making it seems like, Okay, we're gonna call up a
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: guy like a Chadby to cover a guy like Holland
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: in the Norway matches for him not even to probably
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: be called up in twenty twenty six for the World Cup.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: We're gonna get there with players that we don't even
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: are probably not going to bring up come the actual tournament.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I think personally guys, for me, that's yes, okay, if
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: he's on form and everybody's gonna say, oh, he deserves
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to be there. But I don't know, we have to
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: move forward. It's it's enough of going back into the past.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I think I'm in agreement with you. I don't think
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: players should just be called up just just by by
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: what they've done before. They have to earn their spots.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: That's why I made the comment about Politano before, Like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I don't think Politano deserves you either. I think Raspadoti does,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: though I think.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Defense and but and for me, I agree with you.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: But and you know what, he kind of shocked me
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: and surprised me always in the first match, and when
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: he came on in the second match, he kind of
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: did try to prove something. But I do agree. I
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: don't know if he should have been there all in all,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: like outright, but yeah, but.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I mean more in a sense of like like Raspadoti
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: as like a supporting striker like this the super stuff.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I don't think he should be a starter, but Paletti
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: does have faith in him, has a lot of faith
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: in him. So yeah, you know what type of thing.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: But but what's the point I wanted to make about
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: roster selection. Yeah, what they were going I remember the
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: back line. You brought up a good point about the defense.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I think I think our defense is good. There needs
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: to be tweaking or do they need these guys need
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: to practice more or just don't play these players that
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: are like I don't think the Lorenzo should start in
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: a three man back line. I don't think he should.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: He's not used to playing on the three man back line.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: There's so much more responsibility that I don't think he's
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: capable of doing it. And I love the Lorenzo. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: love the Lorenzo. It's not me talking about the Lorenzo.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying he's in capable.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Do you love de Lorenzo?
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: I I really love the Lorenzo copy Donald, No, but
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: it's a it's a reference to uh to anchor, man,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: do you love the lamp? Or you're just saying which
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: you love? But uh, but that's that's my personal take
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: of it. Like maybe find somebody else to play in
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: that slot, you know, maybe the Lorenzo's time, Like probably
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: use the Lorenzo's a sub. Don't use him as a
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: starter for for that, you know, But then the guy that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Question becomes is like who who's who You're gonna swat there? Like,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, if all are healthy, it should be Buston,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Bud and journal I think are our best. I think
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I agree with that. I agree with that, but you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: it seems like I don't know spellut he's got a
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: bit stubborn and keeping door and so where he's at,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I know he switched it up, I don't think because
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: he had a choice, because calor for is uh, you know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: just freak, you know, fool injury in the in the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: first Germany match, but which again we hope you know
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: that he comes back stronger. But uh, it's uh, it's
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: like another thing like what's the drop off after those
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: three are? You know? Is what a guy like Gatti, who.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like what kind of ascolds are right?
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Back? Right? Yeah? Right?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Or left?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I think I think you can play both personally.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I know obviously when was there, it's there, so Sarmy
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: NiFe when he's healthy but apparently hasn't been healthy at
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: all in twenty twenty five, who's valued at sixty million
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and then dipped.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: They should have taken the money.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, you really should have sold them when they
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: could Jesus like.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Man said he was willing to spend fifty you million.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Maybe they should. But that's true if that's true again,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: and also hindsight is twenty twenty, so you know it
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: will never know. But no, it's I don't know. I
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: think just maybe the drop off after those three center backs,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: because I don't mind seeing Bono come off the bench
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: if you want to still keep the O ends you
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: know where he is at at that center back position
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: because spot he loves him. But I think the drop
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: off afterwards is like a guy like Gotti, which I know, Nick,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I think you have kind of mixed up mixed opinions
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: about that. I know I do, at least, you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: and I saw other people saying maybe Macini coming in
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a center back. He hasn't been in the mix now
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: obviously today I was seeing all kinds of a chedby
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: chaby talk. So I don't know. I think the drop
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: off is a little bit, uh, you know, too too much,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: like too great right now, So it's it's it's uh,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: it's kind of we're in a wimbo like do we
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: put all our best players on the pitch, which I
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: think we should, but at the same time that can
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: burn us. So it's uh to catch twenty two.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I think, guys, what do you.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Think about the World Cup qualifying group, because.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Before we move on to that, I think we do
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: have to address I don't know if we have to,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: but how is that not a penalty? On on Theorenzo.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I didn't see you didn't see it, No,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't see it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, well then I'm talking about myself then. But if
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: for me it's it's a guys, if anybody's listening to this,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: tell me, please tell me how is that called back?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: How is that not a penalty? Again, if people have
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: been following us and listening to us for a while,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: you know my opinions with the var it's it was
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: never a positive relationship with this var. It seems to
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: be that it's almost still on that same path. Call
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: penalty on the pitch. For me, it looked clear as day.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I was watching with my brother. Both of us were, Okay,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: that's a clear penalty. Shroterback or Shorter Shorterhouse, whatever his
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: name is, there got to uh, you know, took out
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: the Orenzo. They say, you got a toe onto the
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: ball before getting to the ornzo, before taking out the Orenzo.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: You know that he you know, he must have like
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: the Fred Flintstone big toe to get to that, because
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that was like really like, uh you know, I wouldn't
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: even say fifty to fifty, Like it was really questionable
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. They go, Var calls it back no penalty,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: and then they gift us a penalty at the end
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: RESPIRADORI finishes it for the hand ball again on Shroterback
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: or whoever it was as a makeup. But again, I
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: know we played like ship, but I think that game
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: could have went to extra time. Seen the comeback in
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: the second half, which was was good to see and
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I liked and I liked Keenes hunger and really pumping
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: up the crowd. But to wait, guys, it's it was
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: really two or two eight. I mean, listen, thankfully this
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: is not a bigger tournament. But again it still had implications,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Like I know, Nick was a Nick was every week
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: was like saying, there's implications with this, you know, the
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: work up qualifying groups, and we're gonna get into that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna breed into that, you know, in
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: a bit now. But I don't understand what we always
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: had to do it the hard way. It makes no sense.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Like for me, it's it's it's head scratching. Again. It's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: if we would have maybe all our players. Maybe people
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: are gonna say, oh yeah, maybe we had a different result.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: That's probably true, but I think it starts. You know,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: you know mentally they looked off from from minute one
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: to minute forty five. They will completely off. It's in
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: that second half is when they kind of said, okay,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: maybe now we have to wake up. After being down
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: three nothing and being down what was it was it
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: five five one on aggregate, Okay, maybe now we maybe
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: now we should wake up and score some goals. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it looked it looked like they were making
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: that comeback after you know, the first one in the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: forty ninth minute ba keene. Then he does it again
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: in the sixteenes something minute, and you know, things can
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: change in a flash. So you know, ultimately, I don't
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: know how much further we would have gotten. So maybe this,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: this anger and this rage is not really needed as much,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: maybe because I think we would have got match up
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: against Portugal if I'm not mistaken right, if we would
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: have advanced. Who's to say we would have passed them
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: in the semis. You know, they obviously have a pretty
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: pretty top roster as well, so you know, maybe it
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: is the blessing in the guise. Maybe this is a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: wake up call. They have until June to kind of
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: wake up and smell that that good coffee in Italy.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that they kick off the June window
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: with these World Up qualifying games, you know, on a
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: on a positive foot and a good note. But I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: just hope we can find our best eleven. We can
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: we can be able to call the players that we
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: need to call now go backwards instead of going forwards,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: and I think, you know this is what he will
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: be on good path.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: So we talked about, Yeah, the World Cup qualifying, so
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: they they're in a group Norway, Moldova, Estonia and Israel.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: They would have been in a group well at least
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Germany is a group now I think it's Northern Ireland,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Luxembourg and Slovakia. So that that's pretty much what was
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in play. Yeah, in stake with this nation's league. So
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Italy does have the tough group. They have
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: to they have to go through Norway. See the schedule there.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: First game is against Norway, and this could pretty much
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: decide who's who's gonna finish first, because if Norway wins
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: out their games versus es Sonia, Maldonia and Israel, if
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Italy wins out their games versus Estonia, Moldova in Israel
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: comes out to the Norway Italy games. And it feels
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: like the same thing happened with in World Cup qualifying
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: with Switzerland in twenty twenty two. Well, the qualifying for
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the qualifying for twenty eighteen, they were
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: in a group of Spain.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: So they have to take this. There's Norway game.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Seriously, this could pretty much decide their fate unless you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Norway drop points and now there in other ways, but
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because they start versus Norway and versus Norway,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: so everything could be on the line right until that
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: last game November sixteenth. I guess Norway already. I'm nervous
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: because I just know this a JUDI I know. Please please,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: if anybody from the FIGC is listening, do not play
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the Sansiito at this game. Please do not play at
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the San Siero, a big of.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: You where they play.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, play the Maradona, but they have they have a
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: very bad luck. Play play play all the games in
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you toay nice Stadia. There's always good luck there, you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: chill crowd whatever, But yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: One thing, you know, I saw a tweet.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I forget if it was Carlow or.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's it is Adrian del Monte, the Australian guys.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I forget which who tweeted it today talking about how
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you know it needs to get their actigator together versus Norway,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: because Norway already came out and won five nothing, versus
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Maldona Moldova, they beat Israel. Like I wouldn't worry too
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: much about that, to be honest, Like these are the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: games at these three games, Italy has to go eighteen
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: points right the six games, sorry, versus these three opponents
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: eighteen points. They need to get the maximum points and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Norway they're gonna want to get the maximum points as well.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying it really comes down to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: the two games head to head. But you look at
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Norway like they weren't in the Euros.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't play a lot of top teams
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: when they did. Look they they lost three winth to
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Czech Republic last June. Even they lost five one to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Austa in the Nations League.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: They did beat Usta at home though, and you know
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they're really mixed back obviously. You know, Jenny talked about
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: wrote a Romania and Haji. You know, Norway has their
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: golden star right now and in Holland. Do they have
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: much outside of that that could change the game.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: So it's really it's about Holland shutting him down. Uh
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So if they do that, I think they'll be able
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: to beat Norway.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: How to do that, I don't know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not an expert. I don't think it's by getting
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: a chairy Maybe you do watch that Champions League final
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: between inter And and man City to see what in
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Zaggi's tactics were. Maybe you hire in Zagi's a coach,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you know, make him a dual coach, make them a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: club and national coach, just to shut down.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, basically Italy's qualification for the World Cup is
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: contingent on them shutting down Holland herdling Holland. I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: it's as simple as that. Obviously they can't drop points
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: against the three other teams, but I'd like that it's
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: only in four windows. It's well, you start in junior,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: finish in November. That's what five months. It's not long,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it's quick. It's quick, and we'll know the answer by
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the end of the year.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but there is a problem with this if you
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: if you have a player who's injured and it's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: crucial player, it's such a short span that you might
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: have a chance of not seeing that player on the
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: roster that can sometimes make or break a difference, you
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: That's okay, Okay, it's not okay, because there's forty eight
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: fucking teams in this in this new format of the
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: World Cup. If Italy does not make the World Cup again.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Now there's a there's a major, major, major, major problem.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: So it does matter because there should be already in
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: the normal format it we should always be there. We've
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: had to suffer how many times, guys twice now in
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the World Cup. What are we gonna go three for three?
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: This isn't It would be a disaster. They again, already
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: it's been a disaster. I don't want to see that again.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: It needs to make this World Cup. There's no if
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: buts and oors whatever, and there's none of that. We
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: need to make it. It's partially in our backyard here in Canada.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Uh you know, so this it cannot be if if
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: it's going to take one player, one player to decipher
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: if it'll we mix the World Cup or not. We
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: have major fucking problems. That's all I can say. Like
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: it's it can for me, it cannot be. But I
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: try to remain optimistic. But yes, I do with what
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Nick says. It it's it's make or break. I think
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: from game one like, I do agree with that it
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: has to be already. The last game is probably nerve
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: wracking too. That's depending on how other things go. I know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Italy will do it the hard way. There's no there's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: never there's there's there's never an easy way. What's the
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: song in in Rocky Uh was it Rocky four? No
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: easy way out, no short right? Like there there is
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: never an easy way with Italy right, So it's a
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: it's always been the m O right. We have to
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: do it the hard way. I don't know if I
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: think it's because we have you know, hardheads, tough skulls.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. It's it's just it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: frustrated on that end because I we do see something
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: in this in this squad. It's just for them to
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: put it all together and then on the pitch and
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: then get the results is what we ultimately want. But
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I honestly, you guys, I just want another run, man,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Like I just want another run. You know how how
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: great was it? You know? Again? I hate to go
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: always back. We always we always find ourselves going back
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: in time. But you know, if it be O six,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: if it be twenty twenty one, if it be you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: ninety four, if you were around you know.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: Not you know, just you know in the nineties Italian
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: ninety if you are around eighty two, like we were
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: speaking about before, like these big years for Italy, it's.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: It's and when we're going these runs, it's it's it's
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: always such a great atmosphere and positive and you know,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: positive vibes. So that's what I'm hoping for. I know
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: it's not going to be easy, like I said, so,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's make or break I think from match
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: day one. Like Nick said, I just totally agree with
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: that too, Jenny, any thoughts.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: We definitely will get runs again, we definitely will have
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: good teams. It's just awkward periods in between. And it's
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: not the first time Italy has had awkward periods in
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: their history, and it won't be the last.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: I probably have these conversations again twenty years from now.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: It just you need to get a group that's hungry.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: You need to get a group that's willing to, you know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: prove their worth. And you won't get that when you
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: get when you get these players going through like bad
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: experiences or embarrassing experiences and stuff, and you know, like
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you need like you need to make them care now
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: in terms of like in terms of like getting up
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: to caret sometimes you need a good motivator, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: you need maybe you might need a voice in the
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: room or something, you might need leadership around you know,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: like there's a lot of things that you're gonna need
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: for that. Uh. What I'm looking at from this roster
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: right now, if I were to guess what they might
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: be missing is, like I said before, that that voice,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: that leadership that like like that, like you get a
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: guy like that, I'll see gun.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: On the we're missing we're missing leadership shows. Yeah, we're
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: missing we're missing it veteran presence. But again, I hate
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: to go backwards.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: But I'm not saying get a veteran. But what I'm
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: saying is is like get get a like a talker
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: in the room or get or get somebody who's seeing
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: what it takes and just has like a like a
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: consultant type of role, you know, like a player, like
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: like the player assistant. Like the doc's role in twenty
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: twenty one was perfect, like you know, like he was
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: he was one of the Like what was not that there?
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: What was the term that they use, Like it's not
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: an assistant coach, it's uh, it's it's it's essentially an
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: assistant coach, But they don't say assistant coach or assistant
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: or assistant manager. I can't remember the term right now,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: but a guy like that, that kind of role is perfect.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously that OSSI has his job and whatnot,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: but like get another player like that to do that they.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Need, Gotuso in the building fast.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Put Gatuzo in that kind of position to yell at
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: the guys and tell them and tell them what they
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: need to do. You just have more voices and then eventually,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: you know, you might inspire somebody in that room to
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: be to be a talker, to be a voice, you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: because looking at it overall, like yeah, cool, like we
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: have the we have Euro winners on the team. But
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: these guys were like young, you know what I'm saying,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Like they weren't guys that like that were like like
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: they're reaching near at the end of the towards the
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: end of their career. They're still in the middle of
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: their career, you know what I'm.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Saying, And at that tournament, they weren't even uh like well,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: they were like obviously top players, but they weren't even
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: like they weren't like the leaders.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Like if you want to say it, like yeah, like
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: Say like Abunucci, you know, those types of players to
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: kind of lead the way.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: But I agree, like I would say, like a guy
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: like you know, like Barella and even uh donal Uma
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: were like key players, but they weren't like the guys
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: that were talking. They were just there exactly. They had
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: the talent, which they fully do and they still do.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: It's more like they were there because they they they
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: earned their roster spot, but they didn't. They weren't went,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: but they were the guys that listened whenever people like
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: killing Me or Bonucci talked, you know. And it's now
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: you don't have those type of voices around anymore, and
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: you need you need that. I think that's that's something
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: that you need. You need some people to yell and
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: be like hey, wake the fuck up type of thing.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Now they need a fire up their underneath their asset.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: It's clear, you know, because like I said earlier, it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: always we have to struggle, we have to go down
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: in matches, we have to come back, we have to
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: play behind the eight ball until that oh my god, okay,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: now oh man, like okay, let me start to do
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: my job now and start to go like that needs
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: to be from minute one till minute ninety plus. It
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: can't always be minute you know, fifty two seventy seven.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: It can't be like that. So, you know, I totally
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: agree that they need they need a voice, they need
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: they need a leadership. Because as much as I obviously
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: loved on the rouma, you know, I don't know if
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: it's only coming from him or some of the other
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: veterans in the room, if it be that Butlla, you know,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: or or whatnot, But uh, there needs to be more
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: because you clearly we don't see that leadership. We don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: see that voice. And I totally agree to just bounce
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: off of what Johnny said. And and you know another thing,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I know Nick kind of touched upon it before, but
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: is is SPOETI the guy to to to do this,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: to to be able to inspire the guys and and
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: make them hungry and and get them on the right
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: path Johenny. I know, I know Nick kind of answered
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: it before, but do you do you see that or
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: is it? Is he not the guy to be able
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: to do that?
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: I think he can. I don't think he's like like
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: uh like he managed to unify monopoly to winning the title.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying like he he does have
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: the capability of getting of of of of like burying
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: water from rock type of thing. You know, Like he
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's a terrible manager. A lot of
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: people shop on him. It's like no, it just like
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: he makes mistakes, which is fine because this is a
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: new team for him, and how often is he going
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: to see these players. It's not like as if he's
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: practicing with them every day, you know, Like like a
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: lot of people don't understand that with with with with
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: with national team managers, you don't see these plays like
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: they yeah, they're scouting these players, but they're not working
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: with these guys every day. So it kind of makes
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: sense that Spletty has a bit of nepotism with his
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Napoli players because he works with them, he worked with
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: them before, he knows what they're capable of doing.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for example, he learned from his mistakes
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: of like playing players out of their positions like Banilla
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: was in the in the in the last year O
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Cup where he was playing them in playing them as
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: well as a CDM.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I think it was or something like that.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: What was what was the role that he had him
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: in everyone's like, what the fuck is he doing?
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: You might be more advanced and no, I think he
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: was like more like forward.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Oh yes it was.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: It was something way out of his way, out of
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: his uh comfort level, you know. And like but Spilett,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: he has no idea, you know, like he's never he
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: never had a player like Badela to manage like that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: You know, He's had different types of mids and that
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: that fit his that fittest positioning and what he wanted.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: But anyways, I think Spiletti has the capability of being
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: a decent voice, but the issue with him is that
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: you need to have like players buy into that. The
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Napoli players will listen to him because they had him before,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: you know. And I'm saying these guys are professionals in
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: a sense where it's like, Okay, Spiletti did win to
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: school that though he's been around the block, you know, teams,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: like he managed teams like inter before. Like it's not
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: as if this guy is a brand new manager and
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: they're giving it a shot for the first time. You know,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: like he's somebody who's who has had like who has
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: a track record, not in a bad way, but like
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: you know, like like he's trusted right by other people
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: in the link, So I think they're mature enough to
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: be like, Okay, let's hear what he has to say,
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: but he has to like be able to calm them
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: down when they're frustrated. That's what he needs to do
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: because these players are going to be experiencing a lot
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: of frustration. They're going to be experiencing a lot of
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: frustration with especially after this weekend. I'm pretty sure, like
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I as much as it like it is a Nations
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: League thing, these players are competitive.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: They want to win.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: They don't like losing. You know, if they didn't care,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't have made that, they wouldn't have made that
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: attempt to come back into the game. And because like
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: the three zero was embarrassing, and there is a bit
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: of solace to have in that, in the sense where
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, these guys are like Okay, if they're down,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: they're not gonna like roll over and take the loss.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Like they're gonna still try to fight.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: If anything, if they would have, yeah.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: They didn't. That's the thing that people need to consider,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Like they didn't just roll over and die, you know,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: they're just like Okay, well this is embarrassing. Let's see
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: what we can salvage out of it. And you know what,
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: they almost made a miraculous comeback. You know, we would
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: we could have been we could have been talking a
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: different tune if that game ended up four to three,
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: and then something else would have happened, you know what
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like it's it's a matter of perspective. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: think Spalaletti, just to go back to the main question,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: does have the capability of kind of unifying the boys,
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: I guess, or kind of getting them to, you know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: to buy into him, because you know he's he's done
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: it before with lesser, with a different squad.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: But it does.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I think it will take a bit of convincing for
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: the for the room to do for that to happen.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: It might take some time. Yeah, but I think I
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: think he's trusted.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I hope. So. I didn't mind the SPOILTI hiring from,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: you know, taking over from Mancini. I can't say I'm
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: not going to turn back and say, oh, yeah, I
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: hated it from the beginning. I did not. I did
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: didn't mind it, but you know, he you know, it
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: took him, It took him some time. Obviously, and that's
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: that's that's warranted. That's fine.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: He you know, in the turn in in the Euros,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: it was not good enough. I thought the reaction would
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: have been greater than what it's been in my personal
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: opinion from after what happened in this past summer in
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the in the Euros, I thought the reaction and the
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: spark would have been greater. I think it's it's been
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: kind of on an up and down, uh currently or
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: after sorry that that tournament, this this window, like I
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: don't know, like he grew out his beard, he walked
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: off like he looked like Alto Lot. I don't know
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: like I think, and I know Nick, I remember if
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: if I think it was Nick that you must have
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: said it. The philosophical quotes, uh pre match, post match
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: that doesn't really inspire anybody. I don't know, Like it
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem to inspire much. It's great, it's great. I
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: love to listen to it because it's great TV, if
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you will, But I don't know like it. I think
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: the guys are behind them, but I think there can
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: be more. And that's what we're waiting for. I think
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: for as a Zuli fans, we're waiting for for more
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: a kick, more of a spark, more of you know,
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: more fire, because I'll say it again, like I do
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: think there is quality there almost throughout each position group.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: I would say, obviously it's not a finished product, obviously,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: you know it. Things need to be tweaked and things
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: need to be you know, unified. But since we don't
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: have a quote unquote superstar one overall player dragging us
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: from the from the from the from the death to
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: to to the glory, this group really needs to come
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: together to again bounce off of Johnny's point earlier in
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: the show, I hope it's underspot that we can do that.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: You know, I just think as the duty finds were
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: I always for Maybe I'm speaking for myself, I don't know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: but maybe a bit impatient. We want so much, but
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: we're still far away from that, from that end goal. Maybe.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: But again, we've been blessed to have seen uh, you know,
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: World Cups in our lives, to have seen Euros in
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: our lives. Now we've been blessed to see our our
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: our national team of choice win and you know, obviously
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: nobody can ever take that away from us. But I
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: think we need to kind of get back to what
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: we were, uh, in a sense of you know, now,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I who's scared to Poetaly? Nobody scared to pay Italy.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: There's nobody that we don't strike. I don't think we
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: strike fear in anybody in my opinion.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: And maybe c F Montreal that's it.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe CF Montreal, maybe legend the legend Donadell, maybe has
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: something up his sleeve to to to scarce poet the
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: and but I don't think we strike fear into anybody.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: And I think you know, you.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Know what, though I like that, let me tell you
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: why it can be severely underrated because of that.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but at the end of the and then that's fine.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't mind that either, like doubt us and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: and lets prove okay, but we have to be able
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: to prove it. If yeah, but if we don't, then
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: again it's it's it's we're bout to squares there.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: But like I've said it many times before, historically, that's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: when we are at our best. Whenever we have a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: point to prove, whenever we are doubted, and every time
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: we getting under we get underestimated, we always tend to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: prove it. Now, yes, there are times that we shoot
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: ourselves in the own in our own foot. But then
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: there's other times where it's like, Okay, I know this
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: seam doesn't have anything. The next thing, you know, we
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: go out and win a championship. So I do like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: being a dominant force. I do love being a dominant force,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: especially prior to that, like that six run of like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: being undefeated right before the World Cup, the twenty twenty
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: one run where we're undefeated until.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: The euro Cup, or the thirty five, thirty seven whatever.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they do happen, right, So it's so I'm
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: not saying it's not it's not impossible to have those,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: but when the world thinks that we're at our weeks,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: that's when we succeed the most. That's that's always That's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: always been what Italy is. That's always been theirmo. That's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: always been uh like you know, like just doubt us.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: And we'll show you.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: We'll show you why it's.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Stupid to do that.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you think you think, after like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: after four World Cups, two Euros and multiple finals appearances,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: like you think people would be like you know what,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: maybe let's not they just shot on Italy too long.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: You know they eventually they do think they learned their lesson.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, listen, Ultimately, I just hope it is
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: underspoect that this is able to happen to be achieved
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: because Johnny nailed it on the head. It has been
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: emo from as long as I've been supporting them, obviously,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: and I think all of us have been supporting them.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, again, just hopeful, you know, again, if we
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: would have recorded this, you.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Know, maybe Monday or or or what have you, or
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: maybe earlier in the week. Yeah, definitely been a bit
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: more rage, but it's, uh, it's just frustrating. I think
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: we'll roll as fans because we want to succeed, but
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: we need to get into World Cup and into the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: World Cup in twenty twenty six. It starts June sixth,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: the day before my birthday. So I'm just fingers crossed that,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: you know, we started off on the right foot.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm agree with you. Do you have the right
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: to be frustrated. I think I think it's a very
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: valid point to be frustrated.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's I don't know, like it's uh no, Nick,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like you you're happy that are you
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: happy that we're in this position. I don't think so. No.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see Italy you know, play Nations League
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: semifinals at home again, because you know last did that,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: it was twenty twenty one they and they lost.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: It was versus Spain. And I wanted to see them
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: in the four team group for the World Club qualifying
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: of eight.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: You know, Slovakia, Luxembourg and Northern Ireland come on, Germany.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Germany could feel their F team and qualify exactly. You know,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Italy would still have to feel their A team against
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that group. But yeah, you know, it's frustrating, it's frustrating.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that just the ups and downs we've seen
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: them go in in the past what ten years. You know,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: you see an inspiring team at the Euros that goes out,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: lose quarterfinals, and then they don't make the World Cup,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and then they have to wait a year to win
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the Euros, and then they don't make the World Cup
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and then shit again, well continuously been shipped since.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Winning the Euros. But and now where we're at, we'll see.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I'm honestly, I'm I'm nervous for the World Cup qualifying.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Look when you don't qualify two times in a row,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: it doesn't become automatic like it used to be. Right
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: before twenty eighteen, talk to any you new you found
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: world qualifying was it was a breeze, right, it was Okay,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: it's automatic. Italy's gonna in the World Cup, of course.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Uh now it's not even with forty eight team forty
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: eight team World Cup, and there's what talk of it
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: going to sixty four Italy's not going to qualify for
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: sixty fourteen World Cup either.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: We might as well wrap it up, called it, call it,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: they call it a day. We'll wrap it up at
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: that point. If we don't make it at that point, oh,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: that would be crazy.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Cape Cape Vergie I saw is is in the top
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: of the group of the African qualifying Like we could
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: have Cape Virgie in the World Cup before Italy, you
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: know please?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, yeah, we haven't been white what is this guy?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: We haven't been in a knockout match in the World
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: Cup since what twenty fourteen?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: No, twenty six a thousand and six?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Six? Sorry, what my thing?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: It's crazy?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Good, that's almost point it was that guys.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: It almost It will have been twenty years by the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: time the next World Cup.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: Kicks off, I'm sorry, yeah, of course.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't lost the knockout game me the World
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Cup in twenty years.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair boy, that's one of these. But yeah, no,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's been way, way, way too long. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: was thinking of something else. I don't know why. It's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But the last time they played that was last time
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the game, last time they The last goal they scored
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in the World Cup was a Valtelli's header on Adreva
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: cross against England in the first game. Yes, and I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: think it was in my house. I think the game
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: I remember correctly, in the Amazon rainforest exactly.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: So like that, that's these are things that again and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I totally agree. And I remember when we because when
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: we started the show back at Joe, Oh, you know
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: that was that year, right of the not making the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: World Cup in twenty eighteen, And yeah, right, I think right,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: if it was, then, I'm not mistaken.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we started in twenty eighteen, so it was
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: after it was when when they lost to Sweden.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: We weren't doing it yet.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: You're right, but you know that was a time where
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: it's like, like you said, nick like before it's like,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: what Italy World Cup they're not there? What Like that's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: like unheard of, Like we we never witnessed that, and
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: you know now we've unfortunately have to witness it, you know,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: two times in a row. We cannot make it three
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: in an expanded format, Guys, like this is that? That
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: would be crazy? So but yeah, listen, it's i'm let's
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: just put I guess positive vibes out there. We need
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: them to qualify and uh, yeah, it starts. It starts
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: June sixth, I guess.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Away and uh before we wrap it up, Guys, I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if you had a chance to watch the.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Canada games, I mean.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Concor calf they got concor caft no penalty versus Mexico,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: which I don't know if you saw the highlights at
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: all of the Nations League Final Mexico versus Panama, there
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was the exact same play and it was given as
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: a penalty. It's not given as a penalty versus Canada.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously that wasn't the reason they lost versus Mexico. It
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: would have been nice to get that. You know, they
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: got scored on the in the first minute.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And then and then him and his uh in uh.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I forget if it was off free kick come over
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: to the US. Obviously fantastic result.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: US.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: They're they're in a weird spot right now.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: You've got world class coast coming in. But you know
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: we got you've got some good players on the US side.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: We know them well in Italy between Polistache and McKenny
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and Waya. But obviously great for Canada to win. Hey,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: we'll take wins over the US any date, like like
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: in hockey, right.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Unfortunate news is Alfonso Davies torn a Cluh.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: It sucks.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: You know, at least it didn't happen a year from
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: now and hopefully he'll I mean he'll be ready for
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the World Cup.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: Ah.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: But it's hard because I don't know if you guys
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: saw his agent basically blame Soccer Canada for playing him,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: which look, I'm not a doctor.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I don't fully know the situation.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: But my understanding is a torn a cl it's something
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: that it either.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Happens or you're cls intact or it isn't.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: You could have a spray knee, but when it comes
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: to tear it it's something that happens on the spot.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: So yes, hindsight twenty twenty.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Any player that ever tears at ACL, if they didn't
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: play in the game, they would not have torn their ACL.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: But to come out for the agent to come out
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: and blame Soccer Canada for playing him in a game. Yeah,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: third place game, Nations League. It doesn't mean much, but
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: it's still against your rivals. You don't have much competition
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: ahead of this World Cup. It's basically friendly from here
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: on out. There is the World Cup in June, but
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: obviously Davies won't be playing. He likely wouldn't have been
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: playing regardless. I forget if he's gonna be playing the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: World in the Club World Cup. It's just is It
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: feels like with Soccer Canada there's always these useless stories
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: that follow them. There's always something. You know, a year ago.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I know it wasn't the men's team, but there was
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: the spying scandal with the women's team. There was the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: whole corruption within Soccer Canada not having money. And if
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: you're gonna host World Up, you gotta be a serious
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: team man. You can't have these agents coming out and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: saying stupid shit like that.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: You want to player players, player players.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: If you don't if a player doesn't want to play,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: or or if a club doesn't feel like they want
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: them to play, strings are.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Gonna be pulled.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Look at Rittag with Italy, he didn't play. So if
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Davies is available, the.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Level of Davis and the level of the tag are
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: two different animals.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: No for sure, But Davis has missed games for Canada
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: in the past, so if he's available to play, you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: play him, especially against US.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: So obviously wisham recovery.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know, big bulow for Byron, especially as they
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: you know, prepare for the champions against inter But it's
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: just yeah, it's greaty, I mean, Jesse Marshcott got a
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: red card in the game against the US. Yeah, Canada,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: it's tough. It's it's tough. Like I said, they don't
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: have much time to prepare it. I know, the World
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Cups in a year from now, but they're basically just
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be playing friendlies from here on out, you know.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: I know they have a couple of games it was
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: a Ukraine New Zealand obviously, like I said, the Gold Cup.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they schedule yeah, hopefully they schedule some good friendlies
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: in September, October.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: November, March and June.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm happy obviously Canada beat you guys, but
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: it would have been better if they won the Nations League.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just to bounce off. So about the agent thing
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: and whatever, I don't know for me. These agents are
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: are are for the player, right, They're they're representing their player.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: They're gonna protect their player. They're gonna, you know, do
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: whatever they can for their player. Was Davies not one
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: hundred That is possible, Like two things can be true, right,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: Like he probably wasn't one hundred percent him being Alphonso Davies,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: like mister Canada, they suit him up no matter what.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: Should that have been done? Should that not have been done? Again,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: we can discuss that and debate that for hours. But
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: if he felt something and he wasn't one hundred percent
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: ready to go, maybe he shouldn't have played, to be honest.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: But again, like you said, Nick, hindsight is twenty twenty.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: We will never know those those intricacies behind closed doors.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Will never know. Sometimes you wish you're a fly on
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: these walls, but to kind of grasp a bit more
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: information and a bit more knowledge of the real scenario.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: But you know, like Italy has to do things the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: hard way. There always will be something with Snocker Canada,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: some sort of story, like you said, so I agree,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: But you know what, this team, I know, we were
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: pretty pretty hyped about them last episode. I know we
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: were kind of I don't want to say praising them,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: but kind of, you know, really talking up the good
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: points about this kind of team, which I think still
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: is something that we should do because I think again
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: there is quality there that penalty. Guys, that's if you're
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: listening to uh, if you're watching it on TSN here
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: in Canada. Uh, you know, even Stephen Callwell on the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: call was like that's a one hundred percent of penalty.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: He was like almost screaming for a penalty. And it
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: doesn't get caught, not even a var check, Like don't
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: even get me sorted about that, Like who and if
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: anybody even saw the barroom, Like whose basement was that in?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: Like like that rug and that hardwood, Like it's like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: somebody's none as basement, Like this is like ridiculous in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: my opinion.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know, guys, like we like we can
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: go on and on about that. That is a shame.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: It's a big shame. Clear contact in the box. Uh
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Cornelius one hundred percent gets to the ball first, Alvarez's
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: swinging leg eclips him in the ankle. They both go down.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's something that it could. You know, maybe
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: we're not maybe we don't win the game. Maybe we
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: still don't win the game, and that's fine, but that moment,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: you know, changes the game. It definitely changes the game
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: because already we got scored on off of a crazy
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: bounce bounce off this guy bum beat told him boom
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: bim and it goes in the back of the him.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: And as we get that penalty, and again we're not
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: saying we're gonna convert it one hundred percent because we
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: see all the time that's not it's not a one
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: hundred percent thing. It's no guarantee. But let's say we
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: do convert that and that is a one to one game.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: It totally changes everything. Again, Ultimately, do we end up
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: happy enough to win the game at the end, and
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: and do we see other moments in the game that
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: we'll never know, But I do think that gives that
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: would have given the team, I think something to build on.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: You convert that penalty, it's a one to one game,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: you start off the game in the worst way possible,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: unlucky as hell, you know, wrong choice, wrong time, bounce off,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: whatever we said, and it goes in the back of
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: the net. You have ninety minutes to to to do something.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: You get that penalty and and and convert. It's a
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: different ballgame. So one one, it's a clean slate. You
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: kind of go on from there and anything can happen afterwards.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: But it was a it was a shame I think. Uh,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: you know, credit to Panama for for for their late
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: winner against the US in their semi final. I think
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: that was a huge moment for them. Uh the celebration
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: to match with the mob being of Terry there on
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: on the CBS. What a celebration on the CBS stand there.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: It was just you know, you know Chapo for for that.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: It was just a crazy moment. But you know, Canada,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: you guys should have been that final, you know. I
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: like we were saying the bit last week and ultimately,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: if if the soccer guys wanted it, they should have
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: put out as the final. But it wasn't to be.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: But ultimately I did like the response I think in
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: the in the USA game Again, ultimately third place doesn't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: really mean much. I think it's just pride. I guess
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: on at the end of the day, there uh, you
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: anytime you can beat the States, especially in this time
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: that we're in Uh, I don't We're not getting into politics,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: but just in the time that we're in Canada the US,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: it's always a good time. It's always good to get
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: up on your rival. So I did like that. You know,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Jonathan David, you know, wakes up and scores a goal
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: for Canada, which is which is obviously great, uh to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: get the winner. I would have to have seen him
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: maybe do that in the Mexico game, but it wasn't
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: to be. But ultimately, like listen, this these are this
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: is another stepping stone into the journey of of get
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: you know, uh in preparation of the World Cup. And
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to work on still. I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: think Jesse Marsh has still a lot of you know,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: work to do. The red card that he picks up
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: in the game again total bs. What was that for?
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: Because he was complaining I didn't even understand was that
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: what it was for.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: He was complaining about a penalty. It wasn't penalty like
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: David slipped. I don't know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: ONN they were saying, how you just kind of let
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: his emotions out, tried to, you know, stand up for
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: his players.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: That se message players got to know.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: The Mark cam behind the scenes was like the highlight
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: of that that moment, like he was running here, Oh, no,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: he has to go upstairs. Okay, let me run this way.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Oh the big guy's coming with okay. Oh and then
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: you see him in the box upstairs. It's like in
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: the tree bow and it's like, oh my god. Just
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: a comedy of of of camera work on on the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: the TSN feed. I don't know if it was like
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: that on all feeds, but it was just hilarious to me. Yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: I was. I think he has a lot of work
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: to do still, but so sorry. I think this team,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: you know, this group looks looks hungry as a group.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: They look solid, uh in I would say almost all aspects.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I think there are still positions to be uh determined.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: I think there are a few locks in this in
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: this lineup. I think there are still some positions, at
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: least starting positions too to uh to to be finalized.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: But I think Marsh has that time to to prepare
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: for that and to make those decisions and to make
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: those calls. That's why he's paid the bucks. He's getting
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: paid to to to make those calls. So optimistic, and
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: I again hope for Canada to to do something that,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: you know, come come twenty twenty six, Johnny, you any
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: any other.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just you said, you said everything. I'm really happy
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: about the US when I think it was needed, it
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: still is needed. Uh. It needs to be something that
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: you know, like you kind of like pin up type
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: of thing on the wall. It's it's a moral victory
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: that means so much right now and it needs to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: be constantly applied and constantly reinforced. And this group, like
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: I said it before, they need to have like that
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: victory to kind of push them into the next level
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: of things.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: The COPA America run was was nice, could have been better,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: but like it was for what it was, I'm.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: Okay with that.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: This upcoming Gold Cup could be something really cool, could
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: be that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: When does that start? It starts?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: I think it's always in the summer. I think always
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: starts in June.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: June.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: I believe it always starts. Hold on, let me see here,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: because I know it goes well into July.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it starts I think a bit after the World
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: the Club World Cup. It's interesting there's a Club World
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Cup and the Gold Cup at the same time in
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: the same country. I think it's mid June this year, Yeah,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: June fourteenth until.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: July six six. Yeah.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: The draw is it's a joint hosting by Canada USA,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: but the only Canadian stadium is Vancouver.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I think Canada will probably play
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: at least the group station in Vancouver.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Draws able tenth.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Soon approaching. Yeah, trying to cut you off to Edgsn't
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: sure when, but like the Gold Cups started, but like
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: the Gold Cup is a perfect example of like, okay,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: we need to have like a kind of like a
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: little trophy right now to kind of prove this group.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: But like it's capable of being winners. Gold Cup is
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: perfect for that.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like they've been chasing in the past three
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  Speaker 2: years and they always just.
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  Speaker 4: Fall since two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and but it just feels like every time
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  Speaker 1: they always get a conquered CAFT, there's always a game
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  Speaker 1: against Mexico or even the US, and there's just bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, but whatever, you know.
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  Speaker 3: They've been they've been saying today. It's like it's no
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  Speaker 3: secret even in the I I was listening to some
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: some of the some of the press conferences, some of
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  Speaker 3: the cootes from the players and marsh and you know,
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  Speaker 3: they want to get their hands on the trophy. They
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  Speaker 3: want to they want to know that feeling, which you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's the right mentality to have. I think, like you
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: you have to you know, uh, it's you know already
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  Speaker 3: the their their soccer history is is what it is.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, to try to maybe continue to change
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  Speaker 5: the narrative to to to to become to become champions,
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  Speaker 5: like is something that you know, every athlete you know
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 5: strives for in their respective sports.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, it's no secret in the room that these
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  Speaker 3: guys and these players and these coaching staff and what
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: have you you know, wants to get a trophy in
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  Speaker 3: their hand. And you know what they were really pushing
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: it for for it to be this one the nation's league.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it could have been, uh you know, if
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: them in a final. You know, again, anything could have happened.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't to be. And if it's going to be
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: this gold Cup, you know, starting again, this summer. Again.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where gold Cup is on the on
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: the ranking of of trophies for for for these teams,
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  Speaker 3: but still I still think you can get your hand
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: on a trophy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It means something. We say it all the time and said, yeah,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: you know, if it if it be super Copa, obviously
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: be the Scudetto, it's it's something that you want to
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: get your hands on. So if these players and this
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Canadian team can get it, I uh, you know, I'm
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: hopeful and optimistic that you know, they can pull through
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I think that'll do it for us. Guys, great conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we all had things let out from.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: This past weekend, not just you know, four games through
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