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Health Care In War Zones - What A Doctor Witnessed In Gaza (Intro) · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the UK column Today. I'm joined
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  Speaker 1: once again by Jose Vega. Welcome to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Jose, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure as always. Now today although the election
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  Speaker 1: has just happened and so on, we want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about doctor Mark Poul Mutter.
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  Speaker 3: Is that how you.
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  Speaker 1: Pronounce his name?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, that's right, yep, yep, super.
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  Speaker 1: And so he was supposed to be giving a presentation
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  Speaker 1: to Mound sign I we're at Mound Sinai Hospital, I
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  Speaker 1: think on Friday, was it. But what happened around.
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  Speaker 4: That Doctor Mark Perlmutter, this doctor who was in Gaza
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  Speaker 4: for three weeks, who himself is of Jewish faith, He
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  Speaker 4: was supposed to speak at Mount Sinai Hospital, which is
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  Speaker 4: a hospital here in New York that was opened I
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  Speaker 4: think in the eighteen fifties or so, and it was
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  Speaker 4: one of the hospitals that was seen as like a
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  Speaker 4: safe haven for Jews in New York City. It was
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  Speaker 4: actually called the jew Hospital or the Jewish Hospital. And
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  Speaker 4: so Mark Pearlmutter was supposed to speak at this hospital
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  Speaker 4: and give a lecture on what he saw and give
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  Speaker 4: a presentation. But the doctors there, the administration, the staff,
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  Speaker 4: the faculty that were working in there. Not everyone there,
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  Speaker 4: but a large voice was heard there where they were
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  Speaker 4: saying that they thought doctor Mark Pearlmutter was going to
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  Speaker 4: come and spread anti Semitism and hatred, and that he
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  Speaker 4: should not be heard and he was allowed to be there,
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  Speaker 4: that there might be violence at Mount Sinai, And so
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  Speaker 4: as a result, Mount Sinai decided to cancel his talk
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  Speaker 4: the day before scheduled to speak. Even though this was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be this was known about for a few
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  Speaker 4: weeks before.
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  Speaker 1: What did this Was this pressure coming from people at
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  Speaker 1: the hospital or was somebody actually suggesting to people at
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  Speaker 1: the hospital that this might be the case.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this was coming from people within the hospital and
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  Speaker 4: people outside the hospital who were getting winn that this
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  Speaker 4: was happening. There were, of course Mount Sinai students who
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  Speaker 4: wanted to come to the talk. There were doctors and
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  Speaker 4: nurses in the Mount Sinai that wanted to come to
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  Speaker 4: the presentation as well. But there was just a large
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  Speaker 4: portion of people in the hospital and outside the hospital
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  Speaker 4: who wading to the dean were writing to the faculty
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  Speaker 4: saying that whoever is organizing this event should be disciplined
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  Speaker 4: to the fullest.
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  Speaker 1: You stepped in at this point to find a new venue.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, So, Diane, Sarah and I have a joint fund
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  Speaker 4: where both of our campaigns can pull our resources together.
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  Speaker 4: And so we found an alternate venue just to few
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  Speaker 4: blocks away from where it was originally supposed to be held.
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  Speaker 4: And about seventy five people ended upcoming to doctor Mark
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  Speaker 4: pearl Mutter's presentation anyway. So we found an alternate venue,
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  Speaker 4: We got the word out as to where the new
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  Speaker 4: venue was. We made sure we had some security there
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  Speaker 4: and people were still able to come and listen to
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  Speaker 4: his presentation, and we had a zoom option as well,
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  Speaker 4: and the zoom room was at capacity. There were about
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  Speaker 4: one hundred people who got into the zoom we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: fit any more. There were people who were trolling the chat,
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  Speaker 4: there were people who were trying to disrupt the event
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  Speaker 4: via zoom.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully we had our moderation.
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  Speaker 4: Tools on and the word was spreading and getting out
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  Speaker 4: that Mark pearl Mutter ended up being heard anyway by
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  Speaker 4: Mount Sinai students and Mount Sinai nurses and doctors.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to say Mark Pulmter's presentation in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, what has the response being.
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  Speaker 4: To Mark has been? You know, thankfully he's he's been
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  Speaker 4: heard in places. You know, his colleague doctor Farro Sidwa
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  Speaker 4: published an article in your detailing uh the the photos
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  Speaker 4: of the children with bullets and their heads and their
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  Speaker 4: hearts that were done by IDF soldiers. So Mark, and
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, doctor Pearlmutter has been able to, as a
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  Speaker 4: result of the censorship, only allow his voice to grow,
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  Speaker 4: you know, louder and louder. And the response has just been,
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  Speaker 4: you know, overwhelming. You when we when we saw the
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  Speaker 4: people in the room watching and listening to his presentation,
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  Speaker 4: you could see the sort of disgust in their face.
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  Speaker 4: You know, people it's uncomfortable to sit through, because the
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  Speaker 4: truth is uncomfortable to sit through. And but overall people
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  Speaker 4: have been sharing the video, sharing the presentation, and platforms
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  Speaker 4: like yours are about to also platform the present We.
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  Speaker 1: Should say it is a tough watch, Jose, There's no
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  Speaker 1: question about that. But as you say, this is the
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  Speaker 1: reality of day to day life at the moment, and
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  Speaker 1: you know that I don't know what the rules are
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  Speaker 1: in the United States and the United Kingdom for that
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  Speaker 1: presentation to be broadcast on television, that would be against
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  Speaker 1: the broadcast code in this country. And so as a result,
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  Speaker 1: the majority of people in this country don't understand what
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  Speaker 1: warfare actually is, what it means. And so I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: and the main reason that I want to show this
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  Speaker 1: is to try to reach the people that are taking
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  Speaker 1: a particularly people that are taking a pro Israel position
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  Speaker 1: at the moment, and ask them whether they are prepared
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  Speaker 1: to maintain that pro Israel position once they've seen this presentation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, I will. I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 4: I was in I was in Riverdale, which is a
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  Speaker 4: big part of the district that I was running in
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  Speaker 4: that is largely pro Israel, and uh we were there
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  Speaker 4: with a sound car, so we were going around with
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  Speaker 4: a truck and I was saying on the on the
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  Speaker 4: on the bullhorn that hey, you know, the IDF soldiers
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  Speaker 4: are shooting children and they have there's proof of this,
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  Speaker 4: there's evidence of this. There are bullet wounds in the
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  Speaker 4: heads and hearts of children. And what I got from
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people who call themselves pro ISRAELI was
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  Speaker 4: that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: That's not true.
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  Speaker 4: See, because they have to tell themselves it's not true,
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  Speaker 4: because if they actually thought it was true, then they
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  Speaker 4: would have to do something about it.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So I think a lot of people, hopefully if
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  Speaker 2: they watch.
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  Speaker 4: Through this presentation, sit through it, and if they call
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  Speaker 4: themselves pro Israel, consider if this is true, what does
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  Speaker 4: this mean?
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  Speaker 2: And what is it that I should be doingage this?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think a lot of people and doctor Mark
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  Speaker 4: Pearlmutter would say this too. He thinks that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's difference between patriotism and Zionism, and the way he's
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  Speaker 4: spoken to people who are pro Israeli is he says, well,
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  Speaker 4: if you want Israel to continue to exist, it has
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  Speaker 4: to come to terms and its people have to come
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  Speaker 4: to terms with what it's doing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Hose, Well, I'm going to say thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for joining me today to record this short introduction.
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  Speaker 1: Without further ado, let's just listen to doctor Mark Polbitter.
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  Speaker 3: The following is a presented talk by doctor Mark pearl Mutter,
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  Speaker 3: an orthopedic hand and foot surgeon from North Carolina, who
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  Speaker 3: spoke at an event on November one, twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: in East Harlem, New York. Doctor Mark Pearlmutter spent three
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  Speaker 3: weeks in the Gaza Strip, tending mainly to wounded children
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  Speaker 3: who were targeted by Israeli forces. He is the president
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  Speaker 3: of the World Surgical Foundation and past president of the
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  Speaker 3: International College of Surgeons. The event was organized by Jose Vega,
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  Speaker 3: an independent candidate for US Congress in the Bronx run
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  Speaker 3: in the fifteenth District and who is also a part
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  Speaker 3: of the Vegas Their Peace Fund. This event was organized
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  Speaker 3: to make sure doctor Mark pearl Mother's voice was heard
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  Speaker 3: after a previous event scheduled the day before, was canceled
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  Speaker 3: at the Icon School of Medicine at Mount Sinai. The
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  Speaker 3: talk was co moderated by Jose Vega and doctor Salmon Khan,
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  Speaker 3: a professor of Medicine and Specialists and Infectious Diseases at
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  Speaker 3: Columbia University.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so this one, I congratulate everybody who decided
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  Speaker 5: to come out here. I know there was an environment
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  Speaker 5: of each so called.
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  Speaker 6: Beat speech and so called antis that shut down the
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  Speaker 6: original venue. I think that that's horrible, and I want
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  Speaker 6: to congratulate all of you from deciding to come out here. Anyway,
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  Speaker 6: you were able to sally get another venue so that.
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  Speaker 5: Doctor Mark Pearl Mutter could be heard here.
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  Speaker 6: And you'll see there's another gentleman suicide who will be
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  Speaker 6: full moderated with him. He is doctor sum comm