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Mystery Deaths of 3 Chiefs Fans 'Frozen in Backyard' as Party Host Moves, Enters Rehab and Lawyers Up · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
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Speaker 2: Query, how do you sleep for two plus days and
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Speaker 2: not notice the dead bodies in the backyard? Hey, forget
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Speaker 2: the backyard, your back porch, which is open, it's not
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Speaker 2: like it's enclosed, it's right there. How do you miss
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Speaker 2: three dead bodies? And then if you look out the
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Speaker 2: front you see the victim's cars still park in front
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Speaker 2: of your house. I think two plus two still equals four.
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Speaker 2: If all the cars are there, then they haven't left.
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Speaker 2: If they haven't left, where are they now? We are learning?
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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm talking about the three Kansas Chiefs fans,
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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs fans who go for a watch party
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Speaker 2: at their friend's house, their friend house, and they're all
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Speaker 2: found dead on the back porch and in the backyard.
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Speaker 2: Now we keep hearing this is not a homicide investigation, given,
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Speaker 2: But who would have the story? Make up the story
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Speaker 2: that they slept for two plus days, didn't answer phone calls,
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Speaker 2: set text messages, social messages. How can you go for
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Speaker 2: two days and not look out the window, not walk downstairs?
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Speaker 1: Nothing? I find that impossible. So if that is not.
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Speaker 2: True, then is the friend lying? And if the friend
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Speaker 2: is lying, why is he lying. What is a reason
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Speaker 2: to lie when your three best friends are dead in
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Speaker 2: the backyard. Joining me today is a very special guest
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Speaker 2: with me, Jonathan Price. This is Ricky Johnson's brother, and
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Speaker 2: right off the top, let me tell you these families
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Speaker 2: are in so much pain. Instead of planning the next
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Speaker 2: big thing in their lives, like a wedding or some
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Speaker 2: big event a promotion, they're trying to figure out how
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Speaker 2: to pay funeral expenses. There is a GoFundMe. You can
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Speaker 2: find it online for Ricky Johnson gofund me dot com,
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Speaker 2: slash f slash bags Ricky Johnson. But I got to
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Speaker 2: get into the facts. We now know the friend has
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Speaker 2: checked himself into rehab. Why we know that the police
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Speaker 2: are trying desperately to unlock the cell phones of the
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Speaker 2: three victims. They better go unlock the cell phone of
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Speaker 2: the friend. But all that said, I want to hear
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Price's story from the beginning to the end right now.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Tocy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
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Speaker 2: for being with us here at Crime Stories and on
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Speaker 2: Serious XM one eleven. First of all, for those of
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Speaker 2: you that are not familiar with the story, who is that?
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Speaker 1: Are you living?
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Speaker 2: Under a rock in a cave on the other side
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Speaker 2: of the world for those people.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Harrington's girlfriend of seventeen years flat out says David was murdered.
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Speaker 3: Those three guys were murdered. The Kansas City Police said
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Speaker 3: from the very beginning the deaths are not being investigated
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Speaker 3: as a homicide, but Lorie Cruz says her boyfriend of
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Speaker 3: seventeen years did not use drugs and that he was murdered.
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Speaker 4: Since early in the investigation, police have said the case
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Speaker 4: is not being investigative's foul play, but some of the
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Speaker 4: loved ones of the deceased believe Willis played a role
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Speaker 4: in their deaths. John Harrington, father of David Harrington, whose
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Speaker 4: body was found on the open porch, said that he
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Speaker 4: and David's mother both are convinced that Jordan Willis played
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Speaker 4: a part in the deaths.
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Speaker 2: You know, the families are not buying what the police
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Speaker 2: are selling.
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Speaker 1: Why is that?
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Speaker 2: You know what I found in all of my homicide
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Speaker 2: investigations and prosecutions. Typically the victims' families of all people
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Speaker 2: want the truth, So why are they refusing to believe
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Speaker 2: what cops are saying? You know, when you know somebody
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Speaker 2: so well, like Jackie's sitting right there. I can tell
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Speaker 2: you right now now Jackie is not running outside to
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Speaker 2: do a line of coke. No drugs. I know that
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Speaker 2: I would stake my life on it. This family says
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Speaker 2: he did not use drugs. So why is he dead
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Speaker 2: in the backyard? And why don't we have the toxicology reports?
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Speaker 2: And why don't we have a CEOD.
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Speaker 1: Cause of death on these guys.
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Speaker 2: Okay, again, for those of you that don't know what happened,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you up to speed really quickly.
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Speaker 1: Listen to Nicole parton Crime Online.
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Speaker 5: On January eighth, friends and family are concerned. They were
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Speaker 5: headed to Jordan Willis's house to watch the game, but
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Speaker 5: now none of the guys, including Jordan Willis, are replying
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Speaker 5: to messages on social media or by phone.
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Speaker 6: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McKinney's
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Speaker 6: fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
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Speaker 6: in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
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Speaker 6: or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and
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Speaker 6: screams Willis's name. She walks through the house and she
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Speaker 6: looks on the back porch and sees a body screaming.
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Speaker 5: Mcguinea's fiance calls police. Officers arrived to find Willis in
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Speaker 5: his underwear with an empty glass of wine in hand.
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Speaker 5: The other two bodies were then found in the backyard.
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Speaker 5: Jordan Willis tells police he has no idea what happened.
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Speaker 2: No idea what happened, wineglass in hand. First, to Jonathan Price,
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Speaker 2: this is Ricky Johnson's brother, Jonathan, Thank.
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Speaker 7: You for being with us, Thank you for having me Nancy.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan. First of all, we have been praying for you,
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Speaker 2: your brother, your family, and the other victims since we
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Speaker 2: first heard about this. It's hard for me to believe
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Speaker 2: they froze to death, given what I know about the
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Speaker 2: temperatures during those two days.
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Speaker 1: But I'll get to that later.
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Speaker 2: I want to hear from the beginning, how this debacle,
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Speaker 2: this odyssey started for you.
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Speaker 7: Oh well, I was working the wind day after and
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Speaker 7: uh my brother called me and uh and gave me
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Speaker 7: the news, you know, and and the information he shared
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Speaker 7: with me is not very far off from what I
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Speaker 7: have now three and a half weeks later, which is
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Speaker 7: very sad. So I mean, just like you said there,
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Speaker 7: you know, ever since then we've been trying to find
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Speaker 7: answers as much as we can.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm curious, what what did your brother say to you?
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Speaker 7: Well, he told me that I have some bad news
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Speaker 7: to share and I don't want it to be like
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Speaker 7: this because we don't live very close, so it's not like, uh,
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Speaker 7: you know, he could just come down and tell me,
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Speaker 7: which made it even more difficult. And uh, he told
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Speaker 7: me that Ricky passed away and they're not sure why
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Speaker 7: there they just found his body. So to both of us,
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Speaker 7: not they made sense right off the a and three
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Speaker 7: and a half weeks later, we're still on the same boat, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: So I.
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Speaker 9: Can't answer, Jonathan.
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Speaker 2: At the very beginning, what were you told about what happened?
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Speaker 7: Well, from the very beginning, they all the reports and everything,
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Speaker 7: which is the only people we've actually heard from his media,
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Speaker 7: especially in the first week two weeks, we'd never heard
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Speaker 7: anything about from the police but that they froze to death.
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Speaker 7: And that's why we've been so outspoken from the very beginning,
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Speaker 7: is because that is not a cause of death I
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Speaker 7: would ever ever accept. You know, my brother was a
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Speaker 7: smart man. He ran a large portion of his father's
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Speaker 7: construction company. He was at work all the time. You
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Speaker 7: know that. It doesn't make any sense. An he had
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Speaker 7: three daughters that he looks forward to seeing as much
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Speaker 7: as he could, So how would he put himself in
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Speaker 7: a situation to freeze to death? That's not didn't make
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Speaker 7: any sense.
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Speaker 2: He has three daughters. Yes, what are their ages.
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Speaker 7: Of fourteen, nine and four?
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Speaker 2: Okay, right there, I've just got to tell you, I've
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Speaker 2: got to go.
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Speaker 1: To the shrink on this.
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Speaker 2: We've got an all star panel to make sense of
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Speaker 2: what we're hearing right now. But to doctor John Delatory,
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Speaker 2: psychologist mediator who specializes in forensic psychology at resolution fcs
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Speaker 2: dot com.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: I was and always will be a daddy's girl.
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Speaker 1: Is that right or wrong? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But that was my soulmate. Yes, don't tell my husband.
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Speaker 2: That was my soulmate. My dad Mac.
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Speaker 1: We laughed at.
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Speaker 2: The same things, we danced together. He went on our
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Speaker 2: vacations with us, along with my mom. Everything. He put
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Speaker 2: me through law school. I cannot imagine growing up without
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Speaker 2: my dad.
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Speaker 1: And now you've got these three little girls, one four
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Speaker 1: years old.
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Speaker 2: Who's never going to know her dad. I don't know
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Speaker 2: is that better or worse? We once thirteen, she knows
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Speaker 2: her dad and the pain of his loss must be overwhelming,
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Speaker 2: and it's going to affect them in ways we can't
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Speaker 2: even figure out yet.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, absolutely, because here's the example that they have
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Speaker 10: for the loss of their father comes from this sort
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Speaker 10: of confused and sort of you know, this nebulous way
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Speaker 10: in which he died. They have no answers. It's one
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Speaker 10: thing to have an answer and to suffer a loss,
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Speaker 10: because you can start working through because you have the answer,
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Speaker 10: you know what exactly it was that happened. But if
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Speaker 10: you don't know the truth, and if you think other
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Speaker 10: people are keeping the truth from me, that can impact
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Speaker 10: you just as much as the loss did. They're already
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Speaker 10: going to be going through grieving, right, They're already going
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Speaker 10: to be suffering in their own ways. And the whope
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Speaker 10: business that they have family connections that can help them
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Speaker 10: work through those problems by remembering the father that they have.
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Speaker 10: But the problem is is that they don't have an answer,
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Speaker 10: don't have an ending, and that's going to be really
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Speaker 10: problematic as they continue to move forward through their grieving process.
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Speaker 2: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, it's not just Jonathan Price,
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Speaker 2: who is Ricky Johnson's brother that has questions. David Harrington's father,
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Speaker 2: John Harrington, has been very outspoken.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 3: David Harrington's father, John Harrington, is convinced something happened at
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Speaker 3: Jordan Willi's house when the guys were watching football. He
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Speaker 3: believes that Jordan Willis played a part in it. Harrington
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Speaker 3: says he thinks the three men learned something or saw
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Speaker 3: something they shouldn't have seen, and Willis decided friends are
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Speaker 3: not got to get rid of you.
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Speaker 6: There has been a lot of online speculation about how
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Speaker 6: the scientists survived in his bed of sleep well, his
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Speaker 6: friends died in the backyard. John Harrington, the father of
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Speaker 6: David Harrington, doesn't believe Jordan Willis's claims of not hearing
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Speaker 6: relatives banging on his door. Willis has said he was
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Speaker 6: sleeping with noise canceling headphones on and heard nothing.
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Speaker 2: Let's just go over the facts and then we'll return
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Speaker 2: to Jonathan Price.
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Speaker 1: That's Ricky Johnson's brother.
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Speaker 2: Joining me out of Kansas City is Grace Smith KSETV
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Speaker 2: five investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: Grace, thank you for being with us. Tell me the
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Speaker 1: facts as you know them.
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Speaker 11: Now, yes, Nanthy, well, thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 11: I spoke with Jordan Willis's attorney right after this happened,
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Speaker 11: and he kind of just said, you know, bottom line,
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Speaker 11: Jordan had nothing to do with this. Like your reporter
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Speaker 11: just said, he was sleeping with headphones in. He didn't
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Speaker 11: hear any knocks and the only thing he heard was
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Speaker 11: when the police came to his door. So that's all
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Speaker 11: that he has told me, and that's all that he believes.
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Speaker 11: And I asked, I said, well, why didn't he go
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Speaker 11: outside at all or check anything or look out the door.
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Speaker 11: And he said he had no reason to do any of.
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Speaker 1: That, no reason to go outside.
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Speaker 12: No.
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Speaker 2: I'm really curious to Bernarda via Lona joining US high
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Speaker 2: profile lawyer who worked in the homicide Bureau in New York.
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Speaker 2: You can find her at Vialona law dot com. BERNARDA,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Didn't he have to eat?
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Speaker 2: Did he go without eating for two and a half days,
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Speaker 2: without drinking water?
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Speaker 1: Nothing?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to find out what's on that
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Speaker 2: cell phone of his, not just the three victims. Did
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Speaker 2: he answer one text? Did he open one email? Did
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Speaker 2: he answer one phone call? How can you stay knocked
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Speaker 2: out for two and a half days.
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Speaker 12: I don't get it, absolutely, Nancy. A lot of this
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Speaker 12: doesn't make any sense at all, And just from a
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Speaker 12: prosecution vantage point, I'm looking at law enforcement to definitely
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Speaker 12: do this investigation, saying that they don't want to classify
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Speaker 12: it as a homicide investigation. But I think you need
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Speaker 12: to take the approach.
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Speaker 2: Why why do you understand that in terms of because
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Speaker 2: if I've got three dead bodies and I've got anybody
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Speaker 2: lying about anything absol that makes it suspicious.
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Speaker 7: We're on the same page.
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Speaker 13: My policy will be investigated as a homicide until it
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Speaker 13: is ruled out. Because you know, when something is classified
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Speaker 13: as a homicide investigation, it affects the approach of law enforcement.
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Speaker 13: It affects the resources that are poured into an investigation.
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Speaker 13: It affects who you contact and how you loop the
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Speaker 13: prosecutor in.
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Speaker 12: There are so many unanswered questions, and one thing you're
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Speaker 12: going to need from the.
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Speaker 8: Prosecutor's office get a warrant for Jordan Willis's phone and
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Speaker 8: let's see what communications he was having doing those two days,
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Speaker 8: because as of now we don't have any answers, and
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Speaker 8: our best bet is getting answers.
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Speaker 12: From the cell phones of the decease and the cell
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Speaker 12: phone of Jordan Willis, because it would tell us whether
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Speaker 12: there was any movement. It would tell us where emails,
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Speaker 12: tech communications, browsing, history, photos, video, anything that would give
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Speaker 12: us some clues because obviously there's no physical We can't
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Speaker 12: see anything physical on the bodies of these three individuals
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Speaker 12: so far that will lead them to think automatically it
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Speaker 12: was a homicide. So you have to do some more digging.
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Speaker 2: While I have bernarda villa loona, let me throw a
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Speaker 2: couple of legal ideas at you, and I want to
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Speaker 2: hear what Jonathan Price thinks of them.
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Speaker 1: Number One.
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Speaker 2: One reason that a person is not named a suspect
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Speaker 2: or a person of interest to POI is because once
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Speaker 2: you do, they are suddenly cloaked, shrouded, blanketed with protections
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Speaker 2: under our constitution. Was their name to target a suspect
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Speaker 2: of POI. You can't just walk up and start asking
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Speaker 2: them questions anymore. Oh no, no, no, that's not absolutely.
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Speaker 8: Nancy, do a lawyer, lawyer.
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Speaker 2: Even if it is in LA law enforcement's mind that
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Speaker 2: they're looking at this as a homicide, they're not going
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Speaker 2: to come out and say it because they're going to
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Speaker 2: get no cooperation at all from anybody wants they're named
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Speaker 2: a target.
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Speaker 1: And again, no one has been.
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Speaker 2: Named a target or a POI person of interest yet,
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Speaker 2: Grace Smith. Yes, No, did Jordan Willis's lawyer say anything
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Speaker 2: about handing over his phone to police voluntarily? No?
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Speaker 11: Not what I asked about his phone and he did
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Speaker 11: not tell me one thing about his phone, or he said.
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Speaker 1: When you asked him the question, what did he do?
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Speaker 11: He said, I cannot go into that.
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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 11: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, maybe it's just me, but Jonathan Price, Ricky
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Speaker 2: Johnson who's found out in the cold dead his brother.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't concern you that the lawyer suddenly says, I.
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Speaker 1: Can't talk to you about my client's phone. Why not?
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Speaker 2: If he's really asleep too and a half days, then
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Speaker 2: why can't I look at his phone?
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Speaker 1: And why can't the lawyer comment?
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Speaker 2: He should say, yeah, we handed over to the cops
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Speaker 2: and it shows he didn't answer a single text or
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Speaker 2: phone call during that whole time period.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, that doesn't make sense at all to me.
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Speaker 7: And I'm definitely four constitutional rights and all that, but
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Speaker 7: you know, when it comes down to, you know, people
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Speaker 7: losing their lives. There should should be a fine line.
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Speaker 7: And you know, the lawyer, he was very consistent with,
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Speaker 7: you know, changing the story and everything. But he was
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Speaker 7: very consistent. I'm not answering the drug question. And now
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Speaker 7: that he did not answer the phone question, that leads
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Speaker 7: me to believe, since he just checked into rehab, he
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Speaker 7: does have a drug problem and that's why he didn't
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Speaker 7: want to answer it. You know, maybe there is something
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Speaker 7: on the phone because the lawyer specifically did not answer
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Speaker 7: that question, but he's open to answering all the other questions.
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Speaker 2: Very curious, and johnthan Price, you said the lawyer has
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Speaker 2: two paraphrase what you said gone along with changing the story.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean about changing the story?
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that Jordan Willis, let me just call
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Speaker 2: him the homeowner where this viewing party was being you know,
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Speaker 2: everybody gets together watch the Super Bowl, That's what they
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Speaker 2: were doing. They were watching the Kansas City Chiefs game
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Speaker 2: altogether at Jordan Willis's home. What do you mean by
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Speaker 2: changing the story. I'm very curious.
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Speaker 7: Well, from the very beginning, he said that before the
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Speaker 7: fifth person came out, he said that Jordan was there
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Speaker 7: sporadically throughout the day and then whenever. And then he
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Speaker 7: also did not mention a fifth person, but once the
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Speaker 7: fifth person came out, then he changed it to saying
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Speaker 7: that there was a fifth person and that he was
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Speaker 7: asleep the entire time. So those were two very specific details.
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Speaker 7: It's worse specific in the opening statement but then changed
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Speaker 7: over time. And then there's very conflicting statements about the
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Speaker 7: dogs as well, because the fifth person did say that
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Speaker 7: there was a dog presence when he was there, and
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Speaker 7: this was at midnight when he left. Therefore, is it
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Speaker 7: between midnight and two am you take your dog to
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Speaker 7: your dad's house. That makes it zero sense. So the
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Speaker 7: lawyer was very specific, but the dogs were not there
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Speaker 7: as well, So there's definitely thanks not adding up with
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Speaker 7: this statement.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Bryce, I'm glad you mentioned that about the dogs,
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Speaker 2: because I found it too convenient that they just happened
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Speaker 2: to be gone during this two and a half day
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Speaker 2: period that the fifth person, who at first wasn't mentioned,
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Speaker 2: says the dog was there at midnight when the.
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Speaker 1: Person five left.
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Speaker 2: Now, you know, Jonathan, I can't even tell you how
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Speaker 2: many thousands, literally thousands of homicide investigations I've either investigated, helped, investigate, tried, helped, tried,
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Speaker 2: or covered. You know, Jonathan, if I ask you right now,
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Speaker 2: who was in your house this morning when you had breakfast,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can tell you my husband was there,
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Speaker 2: My two children, John David Lucy were there, the cat,
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Speaker 2: the dog, the two guineas, and my mother.
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Speaker 1: We were all there.
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Speaker 2: I didn't leave anybody out right. Why did he leave
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Speaker 2: out person number five?
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Speaker 1: Why? Why?
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Speaker 2: I've seen it so many times when one integral, critical
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Speaker 2: detail is left out, there's a reason. There's a reason
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Speaker 2: that detail is left out. Why and why is the
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Speaker 2: issue about the dog? Why did that change? Why does
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Speaker 2: he want us to know the dogs were there because
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Speaker 2: he would have had to let them out?
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Speaker 1: Another thing? You mentioned those.
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Speaker 2: Two discrepancies, But let me go back to Grace Smith
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Speaker 2: joining us KCTV five. Wasn't there a discrepancy in the
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Speaker 2: original story from Jordan Willis about what time the three
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Speaker 2: friends left? And when I'm saying the three friends, I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about the three deceased victims, Ricky Johnson, Clayton mcgheey,
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Speaker 2: and David Harrington. Yes, didn't he say they left and
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Speaker 2: they came back? What were his conflicting stories about when
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Speaker 2: they left.
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Speaker 11: That yeah, so he said, the lawyer told me in
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Speaker 11: the early mornings, like around two am. He believes that
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Speaker 11: Jordan got sleepy and said, okay, guys, I'm going to
21:38
Speaker 11: go crash on the couch, and that's what he did.
21:41
Speaker 11: And so he said goodbye to his buddies, and then
21:43
Speaker 11: they thought he thought that they left through the front door.
21:47
Speaker 11: Then he says, wait, actually he didn't think they left,
21:51
Speaker 11: but he just went to sleep anyways, and that other
21:56
Speaker 11: friend left about an hour before this all happened before
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Speaker 11: he went to the couch. So that's what he told me.
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Speaker 2: Now, I see how they could explain that away, that
22:07
Speaker 2: he thought they had left, but maybe they didn't leave
22:10
Speaker 2: because he was passed out on the sofa.
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Speaker 1: I mean, could it be as innocuous as that?
22:14
Speaker 2: I thought there was a little more to the story
22:18
Speaker 2: of when they left that maybe they Yeah, at one
22:22
Speaker 2: point he said they left and they came back, that
22:26
Speaker 2: he had left the door unlocked so his friends could
22:31
Speaker 2: come and go in and out. His story regarding when
22:35
Speaker 2: the three victims left did change, and not in an
22:39
Speaker 2: innocuous way. Now we're learning about video that has emerged
22:46
Speaker 2: from a neighbor listen.
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Speaker 3: Tuesday, January ninth, Ashton Brady is getting ready for better
22:52
Speaker 3: around ten pm when he notices a woman walking around
22:55
Speaker 3: Jordan Willis's house very distressed. Minutes later, police are on
22:58
Speaker 3: the scene, as well as an ambulance. Brady starts recording
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Speaker 3: video when he sees Jordan Willis standing on his front
23:04
Speaker 3: stoop and handcuffs in his underwear. The neighbors said the
23:07
Speaker 3: police took the handcuffs off and put him in a
23:09
Speaker 3: police car and drove away. Police were then seen going
23:13
Speaker 3: through the house room by room with flashlights searching for
23:16
Speaker 3: more evidence. Police have stressed that they are not treating
23:19
Speaker 3: it as a homicide and are continuing to investigate.
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Speaker 2: Curious, I'm trying to figure out what all of this means.
23:26
Speaker 2: I understand that at first they handcuffed Jordan Willis and
23:31
Speaker 2: then later unhandcuffed him.
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Speaker 1: What do you know about that, Grace Smith?
23:36
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I actually went to the home of where
23:39
Speaker 11: this where the video was taken yesterday. Didn't get any answers,
23:45
Speaker 11: but so I don't know exactly and we didn't report
23:49
Speaker 11: on that video, so I can't go into that specifically.
23:54
Speaker 11: But the house was just directly across, so could see
23:57
Speaker 11: very clearly what was going on.
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Speaker 2: Also, if he is out, if the neighbors out, for instance,
24:03
Speaker 2: walking his dog, I mean, he can walk down closer
24:06
Speaker 2: to the house and get the video. Parts of the
24:09
Speaker 2: video have emerged already. It's kind of hard to make out,
24:14
Speaker 2: but you can see certain portions of what's going on.
24:19
Speaker 2: To your understanding, let me go back to Ricky's brother,
24:23
Speaker 2: Jonathan Price, what is your understanding of that video?
24:27
Speaker 7: I mean, it does look like he was detained in
24:30
Speaker 7: the very grainy parts that you can see there, But
24:34
Speaker 7: it just doesn't make sense to me if you left
24:36
Speaker 7: in a police car uncuffed, which I didn't think that
24:39
Speaker 7: was a common thing to transfer somebody in a police
24:43
Speaker 7: vehicle unless you rule out everything. But that's the part
24:47
Speaker 7: that doesn't make sense. How you can rule it out
24:49
Speaker 7: without investigated any further. Maybe that's just to remove him
24:54
Speaker 7: from the scene or whatever. But my biggest question was,
24:58
Speaker 7: if they did take him to the the stations, did
25:00
Speaker 7: they drug test him as well, and if so, what
25:03
Speaker 7: were the results of that, because they definitely already have that,
25:06
Speaker 7: and you know, is there any commonality between what he
25:09
Speaker 7: has in his system and what's in my brother's system
25:13
Speaker 7: because that seems very important.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
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Speaker 2: Joining us as a renowned medical examiner, doctor Jane Gorniac
25:20
Speaker 2: to answer those questions. First, I want you to analyze
25:24
Speaker 2: for me, Todd G. Shipley, what we're learning about attempts
25:29
Speaker 2: to unlock the victims' cell phones. Listen to Sydney Sumner
25:33
Speaker 2: Crime online.
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Speaker 6: Cops are asking for codes to unlock the phones of
25:36
Speaker 6: thirty seven year old David Harrington, thirty six year old
25:39
Speaker 6: Clayton mckeiney, and thirty eight year old Ricky Johnson. Investigators
25:43
Speaker 6: say combing through the cell phones of the three Kansas
25:45
Speaker 6: City chief fans will show who they talked to, where
25:48
Speaker 6: they went, and when they ended up outside the house,
25:51
Speaker 6: on the porch and in the backyard.
25:53
Speaker 2: Again, according to what we are learning right now from
25:57
Speaker 2: KCTV five's Grace Smith, Jordan Willis's lawyer won't comment on
26:04
Speaker 2: his phone, but to Todji Shipley, joining us digital cybercrime expert,
26:11
Speaker 2: former detective and author of Investigating Internet Crimes and Introduction
26:17
Speaker 2: to Solving Crimes in Cyberspace, and you can find him
26:21
Speaker 2: at Dark intaeil dot info. Todd Shipley, thank you for
26:24
Speaker 2: being with us. Do you remember in the recent trial
26:29
Speaker 2: of Alex murdog on trial for double murder, they actually
26:32
Speaker 2: had to bring in a former Secret Service person to
26:36
Speaker 2: unlock to testify about unlocking the phone.
26:41
Speaker 1: How do you unlock a phone?
26:43
Speaker 2: It's not that easy if you don't have the code,
26:45
Speaker 2: even for police.
26:47
Speaker 9: Thanks fancy for having me on this morning. Yes and no,
26:50
Speaker 9: I mean it depends on the resources to be able
26:53
Speaker 9: to them. The thing is they're part of the reading
26:57
Speaker 9: Futer Frenzy Laboratory that's there in Kansas City, so they
27:02
Speaker 9: have the resources available to do that, and law enforcement
27:05
Speaker 9: has available to them certain tools that help that. Now,
27:09
Speaker 9: if we look back, you know, previously in other cases,
27:11
Speaker 9: even the FBI has had problems with specific kinds of phones,
27:14
Speaker 9: particularly the iPhones. And I haven't heard yet what kind
27:17
Speaker 9: of phones these are, but unlocking them sometimes can be
27:21
Speaker 9: trivial depending on the kind of phone and the operating
27:25
Speaker 9: system is on it, the older operating systems if it
27:27
Speaker 9: hasn't been updated, or easier to get to. So they
27:30
Speaker 9: should be able to get into those phones regardless. The
27:33
Speaker 9: simplest method is to ask the family for the codes.
27:36
Speaker 9: That's what they tried to do. Then they've got to
27:39
Speaker 9: go and use these specific kinds of tools to try
27:42
Speaker 9: to break into the phones, which can take some while
27:44
Speaker 9: because in these cases they're actually trying to come up
27:47
Speaker 9: with a password that by brute forcing or getting using
27:51
Speaker 9: multiple different kinds of passwords to get into the phone
27:54
Speaker 9: to figure out which is the password. So it could
27:56
Speaker 9: take a while, But there's so much information on those
27:58
Speaker 9: phones that can be overlooked. There's a ton of information,
28:03
Speaker 9: particularly on the iPhones, about where the person was and
28:06
Speaker 9: what they were doing. There is the health app that's
28:07
Speaker 9: on these phones. There records where you walk to so
28:10
Speaker 9: they're going to know exactly what the one person that lived,
28:14
Speaker 9: what happened to him, and where he was in the house,
28:16
Speaker 9: as well as the people that passed away, they're going
28:19
Speaker 9: to know exactly what happened if they get on those phones.
28:22
Speaker 2: Also encouraged by the fact, as you pointed out, phones
28:28
Speaker 2: track your movements and the time of your movements, so
28:32
Speaker 2: not only will their texts, their computer searches their photos.
28:37
Speaker 2: We know they were taking photos that night. What else
28:40
Speaker 2: was there? And I really want to find out about
28:45
Speaker 2: the home owner as we are calling him Jordan Willis's phone.
28:50
Speaker 2: Did they hand it over, did they demand a search warrant.
28:54
Speaker 2: If it's not a homicide investigation, can cops even get
28:58
Speaker 2: a search warrant? We know they haven't gotten into some
29:02
Speaker 2: of the phones because they're asking the family if they
29:06
Speaker 2: know the codes. You'd be surprised everybody to find out.
29:10
Speaker 2: And I have research this for my last book, Don't
29:12
Speaker 2: Be a Victim. How many people use one two one
29:16
Speaker 2: two or one two three one two three or one
29:21
Speaker 2: one one one or of course double o seven or
29:24
Speaker 2: believe it or not?
29:24
Speaker 1: Sixty nine sixty nine, sixty nine, Yes, very common.
29:28
Speaker 2: Still, long story short, A huge percentage of people use
29:33
Speaker 2: predictable codes like one two three one two three. Many
29:39
Speaker 2: people use their lucky number seven seven seven seven seven seven.
29:44
Speaker 2: It's very easy and every x number of seconds or
29:49
Speaker 2: minutes you can retry different codes.
29:51
Speaker 1: That's how you break a code.
29:53
Speaker 2: But they haven't broken them yet because they're asking family, Hey,
29:57
Speaker 2: we can't crack it.
29:58
Speaker 1: Do you know the code?
30:00
Speaker 2: That's where that stands. I'm also curious, Bernardo Viville Loona.
30:06
Speaker 2: They can't look at Jordan Willis's phone if he's a target,
30:11
Speaker 2: And I'm curious why the lawyer won't comment on it
30:15
Speaker 2: unless he hands over his phone exactly right.
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Speaker 12: So, Nancy, the only way for law enforcement to get
30:22
Speaker 12: to the phone of Jordan Willis is whether he consents
30:25
Speaker 12: to turn over his phone and for his phone to
30:28
Speaker 12: be searched. A's number one or two. There's a search
30:31
Speaker 12: one that's signed by a judge. But then you'll need
30:33
Speaker 12: probable cause in order to get the search warrant approved.
30:36
Speaker 12: So in terms of Jordan Willis's attorney not commenting on
30:39
Speaker 12: the phone, I think he's trying to see where this
30:42
Speaker 12: investigation goes. He doesn't want to make any comments that
30:45
Speaker 12: if there is.
30:46
Speaker 2: Do you want to find out why your friends died?
30:49
Speaker 2: Why don't you just hand over the phone? You know
30:51
Speaker 2: what the cops say to me, Hey can I look
30:54
Speaker 2: at your phone and go? Sure? Enjoy my twenty two
30:57
Speaker 2: thousand pictures of the twins, get after it?
31:01
Speaker 1: So why not hand over the phone? Now?
31:05
Speaker 2: As to cause of death? That is Jonathan Price's big question.
31:10
Speaker 2: Joining US renowned BOORT certified forensic pathologists former medical examiner
31:18
Speaker 2: doctor jan Gorniac And she didn't practice at for instance,
31:24
Speaker 2: where I grew up Rutland County, in Rutland area of
31:27
Speaker 2: bib County, where all you could see is pine trees
31:30
Speaker 2: and soybean fields. She practiced in Vegas, never a lack
31:35
Speaker 2: of business at the Morgue, Doctor Gorniac. Before you give
31:40
Speaker 2: me your opinion, I want you to hear about the
31:43
Speaker 2: weather that evening. Take a listen to Nicole Parton from
31:47
Speaker 2: crime online dot Com.
31:49
Speaker 5: David Harrington's father is also challenging the idea that the
31:53
Speaker 5: men froze to death. Daily Mail reports John Harrington saying,
31:57
Speaker 5: I don't think it's very likely they froze to death.
32:00
Speaker 5: Some people are saying it just wasn't cold enough. The
32:03
Speaker 5: temperature for Kansas City late in the night of Sunday,
32:06
Speaker 5: January seven was around thirty six degrees, and the temp
32:10
Speaker 5: remained above freezing all day Monday, January eighth. Tuesday January
32:16
Speaker 5: nine was the coldest day, when it was twenty six
32:19
Speaker 5: degrees by two pm and twenty at ten pm. The
32:23
Speaker 5: first thirty six hours of the mystery, the temp is
32:26
Speaker 5: at or above freezing, and it is only the last
32:29
Speaker 5: twelve hours where it gets really cold.
32:32
Speaker 2: And we also know that the three victims were found
32:35
Speaker 2: on January nine, and that is when around two pm
32:41
Speaker 2: it started getting colder, so it wasn't freezing.
32:44
Speaker 1: Doctor j.
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Speaker 14: Gorniac I heard that, but when you talk about freezing,
32:50
Speaker 14: people thinking abou above freezing of water. Thirty degrees is
32:54
Speaker 14: cold for a person to be outside. You wouldn't go
32:57
Speaker 14: outside without a hat or glove of you maybe eat,
33:01
Speaker 14: you know, or scarf on and stay outside. That is cold.
33:06
Speaker 14: I'm a runner. Once it gets below fifty, I start
33:09
Speaker 14: putting ear muscle on because my ears get cold. So
33:12
Speaker 14: thirty degrees and less below for a human is cold.
33:17
Speaker 14: So we don't want to say, like the body froze.
33:19
Speaker 14: People think frozen. Very rarely do we have frozen bodies
33:23
Speaker 14: unless they're really out there once in snow and ice
33:27
Speaker 14: and out there for a prolonged period of time, or
33:30
Speaker 14: literally in a freezer where the body freezer. So the
33:35
Speaker 14: term froze to death is not accurate. So the term
33:39
Speaker 14: that we would use would be hypothermia, so low body temperature.
33:43
Speaker 14: So when you're out in the elements and not protecting
33:46
Speaker 14: yourself from that, then your body can't and that's why
33:49
Speaker 14: we start shivering.
33:50
Speaker 12: Right.
33:51
Speaker 14: Your body shivers when you get too cold because you
33:53
Speaker 14: want to try to warm yourself up. So that's what
33:57
Speaker 14: we're talking about, not really freezing, but a low body temperature.
34:01
Speaker 14: It's going to be difficult to say what their temperature
34:03
Speaker 14: was unless the death investigator, when they got to the
34:06
Speaker 14: scene or even at the morgue, took a body temperature,
34:10
Speaker 14: and I'm not sure the policies and procedures of that
34:13
Speaker 14: particular office. So when your body temperature gets below ninety
34:18
Speaker 14: that's when you start being hypothermic. So I don't want
34:23
Speaker 14: people to think freezing as an ice or even not
34:26
Speaker 14: to be you know, crude, like when you freeze meat
34:29
Speaker 14: in a freezer. That's not what we're talking about. We're
34:31
Speaker 14: talking about low body temperatures hypothermia, and those temperatures are
34:36
Speaker 14: low enough to cause hypothermia.
34:51
Speaker 1: Time stories with Nancy Grace.
34:56
Speaker 2: What I don't understand, Jonathan Price. This is Ricky Johnson's brother.
35:00
Speaker 2: If Ricky was outside and getting cold, why didn't he
35:05
Speaker 2: just go inside? There have also been reports that the
35:09
Speaker 2: bodies were dragged out.
35:13
Speaker 1: We know that the doors.
35:14
Speaker 2: Were locked when the fiance came over looking for one
35:18
Speaker 2: of the victims. So wouldn't your brother have just gone
35:22
Speaker 2: to his car or gone back inside.
35:25
Speaker 7: Yes, I mean that's that's common sense. And he never
35:28
Speaker 7: went outside without a coat on. I mean, getting my terms, right,
35:31
Speaker 7: hypothermia is understandable, but that's not the root. Cause. You know,
35:37
Speaker 7: my brother is a smart man, and I mean the
35:40
Speaker 7: other two men always looked out for each other, so
35:42
Speaker 7: they the odds of three men going through hypothermia, which
35:46
Speaker 7: is a process that takes time all of the exact
35:49
Speaker 7: same time, is the part that doesn't make sense. I mean,
35:52
Speaker 7: we can go back and forth about terms, but that's
35:55
Speaker 7: that's not not a cause I would accept. Is I'll
35:59
Speaker 7: start saying happens.
36:00
Speaker 2: I want to follow up on something you just said, Jonathan,
36:03
Speaker 2: the likelihood and no one has discussed this, the likelihood
36:09
Speaker 2: that all three would drop dead with hypothermia in the
36:13
Speaker 2: backyard at the same time, with two of them out
36:18
Speaker 2: in the backyard and one of them and oh yeah,
36:22
Speaker 2: I want to follow up with you, Grace Smith. How
36:24
Speaker 2: far were the backyard bodies from the porch.
36:28
Speaker 1: And the window? Okay, I want to follow up on that.
36:30
Speaker 2: But to Jonathan Price, the likelihood that they're all three
36:34
Speaker 2: going to die of hypothermia, two out in the yard,
36:38
Speaker 2: one lying on a lounge chair, I think, on the
36:41
Speaker 2: back porch. I mean, how could you miss that?
36:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean they're all different, extremely.
36:47
Speaker 14: Low, right, may I jump back in. This is doctor
36:50
Speaker 14: corneyack again if I can jump back in, and yes, Jonathan,
36:53
Speaker 14: you're absolutely You're absolutely correct. So there's something else that's
36:57
Speaker 14: going on. So before they get to that point, we
37:02
Speaker 14: don't know, once again waiting for the toxicology. So I
37:06
Speaker 14: believe to the hypothermia could be the end point because
37:10
Speaker 14: they were left outside in the elements and they might
37:14
Speaker 14: have been unresponsive for whatever reason, whether it be alcohol
37:18
Speaker 14: or other drugs, I don't know, but you're absolutely correct.
37:21
Speaker 14: It's not like they were out, you know, skiing or
37:24
Speaker 14: here walking outside and got lost, their cars broken down
37:28
Speaker 14: all together. But there is something else, so you are correct.
37:32
Speaker 14: I believe hypothermia is part of it, but there's something
37:38
Speaker 14: is missing, and without that the missing piece, which is
37:42
Speaker 14: the toxicology or other things they saw at autopsy, there
37:46
Speaker 14: is no cause of death right now. The cause of
37:47
Speaker 14: death is undetermined, and the manner death is undetermined. We
37:51
Speaker 14: don't know if it's an accident or.
37:52
Speaker 2: A homicide for all three.
37:56
Speaker 14: I agree. I totally agree. That's why there is another
38:01
Speaker 14: contributing factor that is missing, and we don't know that
38:04
Speaker 14: missing piece yet. You're absolutely correct, I.
38:07
Speaker 2: Agree, And now we have the issue of the home owner,
38:11
Speaker 2: as we're calling him checking himself in to rehab. And
38:17
Speaker 2: he again noticed every time a Hollywood celebrity gets in
38:20
Speaker 2: trouble right there in deep let me think I gave
38:24
Speaker 2: up cursing when I had the twins Deep Doo doo,
38:27
Speaker 2: they run and check into rehab. Okay, take a listen
38:32
Speaker 2: to nicolepartincrime ononline dot com.
38:35
Speaker 5: Jordan Willis packed his things and left just days after
38:38
Speaker 5: the discovery of his three friends dead outside while he
38:42
Speaker 5: slept for two days straight. He moved everything into storage
38:46
Speaker 5: and checked into a rehab. The investigator said Willis was
38:50
Speaker 5: not a suspect in the deaths, but family and friends
38:53
Speaker 5: of the men who died have questioned a lot of
38:56
Speaker 5: the story they have heard from Willis. A source close
38:59
Speaker 5: to Jordan will tells Fox Digital quote, after the shocking
39:03
Speaker 5: loss of three of his close friends under extremely tragic circumstances,
39:08
Speaker 5: Jordan recognized that he had a problem with addiction. The
39:11
Speaker 5: source did not elaborate on the exact nature of the addiction.
39:15
Speaker 5: The deceased men's toxicology reports are still pending, but a
39:19
Speaker 5: neighbor said two of them were supposedly seen arriving at
39:22
Speaker 5: Willis's with two thirty packs of beer.
39:27
Speaker 2: Okay, even if they had been drinking, the likelihood of
39:31
Speaker 2: all three drinking heavily, the likelihood of all three of
39:35
Speaker 2: them passing out at the same time outside and all
39:39
Speaker 2: three dying of hypothermia at the same time is statistically impossible.
39:45
Speaker 2: That does not make sense. To Jonathan Price, Ricky Johnson's
39:50
Speaker 2: brother way in, I've got to hear your analysis. And
39:54
Speaker 2: have you also heard reports that the bodies were dragged?
39:59
Speaker 7: I mean I've heard reports of that. I mean there,
40:02
Speaker 7: I haven't seen anything official about that, so I can't
40:04
Speaker 7: really comment on the dragging part, But as far as
40:08
Speaker 7: the likelihoods and everything, yeah, I mean, like I've said,
40:11
Speaker 7: from the very beginning, these three men were inseparable. You
40:13
Speaker 7: look at any of their facebooks, any picture that's posted that,
40:16
Speaker 7: it's not of their family, it's of these men. And
40:19
Speaker 7: if just one of them, even two of them passed
40:22
Speaker 7: out at the same time, which is already like impossible,
40:26
Speaker 7: you know, the other man would have absolutely brought them
40:29
Speaker 7: inside and called for help something. So that's just insane.
40:34
Speaker 2: We also know that the version of events has changed.
40:40
Speaker 2: Listen to Rachel.
40:42
Speaker 4: The current version of events has Jordan Willis waving the
40:44
Speaker 4: three other men off at two am after the game,
40:47
Speaker 4: and he went to sleep on the couch. By two am,
40:50
Speaker 4: the game had been finished for at least seven hours,
40:52
Speaker 4: as it was a three twenty five kickoff and the
40:54
Speaker 4: game lasted three hours. Willis still says he had no
40:58
Speaker 4: clue that three men were laying out side for two days.
41:01
Speaker 4: John Harrington points out that his son David was a
41:04
Speaker 4: big man, three hundred pounds, and he was on the
41:07
Speaker 4: open porch while the other two were.
41:08
Speaker 1: In the art.
41:09
Speaker 2: So to you, Gray Smith joining us Casey TV five,
41:13
Speaker 2: is that possible? Can you walk around downstairs and never look,
41:18
Speaker 2: never see inadvertently even out the front door or the
41:22
Speaker 2: back door, I mean the front windows or the back windows.
41:24
Speaker 11: I mean, I've looked at that backyard with my own
41:27
Speaker 11: two eyes. I think for me it would be hard.
41:31
Speaker 11: But I'm just nosy, so I feel like I would
41:34
Speaker 11: definitely see something. But if you're not looking, I guess
41:39
Speaker 11: possibly not. But for me, I feel like hearing that
41:43
Speaker 11: seeing the backyard with my own two eyes, that would
41:45
Speaker 11: be very, very difficult.
41:47
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't it a natural reaction? Doctor John Delatoria
41:51
Speaker 2: I guess I gotta ask a shrink. Isn't it natural
41:54
Speaker 2: to look out the window while you're walking through or
41:57
Speaker 2: sitting down.
41:58
Speaker 1: Having a cup of tea?
41:58
Speaker 10: Yeah?
42:00
Speaker 2: Who would just not even look out the window.
42:02
Speaker 10: Well, here's the thing is that you're assuming that he
42:04
Speaker 10: was sober any of that time. I mean, I'm not
42:08
Speaker 10: saying that he was asleep two days. That's absolutely ridiculous.
42:11
Speaker 10: And if he's in the throes of addiction the way
42:13
Speaker 10: that he's claiming to be, then he's for sure not
42:15
Speaker 10: saying asleep. He's got to get up and he's got
42:17
Speaker 10: to drink or use whatever he needs to use. That
42:20
Speaker 10: that's his drug of choice. But there's nothing to assume
42:23
Speaker 10: that he was sober and actually paying attention to his surrounding.
42:27
Speaker 10: You can't trust anything that he's saying. If he's accurate
42:31
Speaker 10: in saying that he needed that he's got a problem
42:33
Speaker 10: with drugs and alcohol, you can't trust anything that he
42:36
Speaker 10: says because more than likely it was tanged with some
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Speaker 10: kind of illicious substance. So of course he's not looking
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Speaker 10: outside or going outside. Of course he's not getting dressed
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Speaker 10: right because he's not sober.
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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, when you're on a plane,
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Speaker 2: your natural instinct is to look out. People that are
42:52
Speaker 2: afraid of flying, they have to shut the window because
42:55
Speaker 2: a natural instinct is to look out the window. I'm
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Speaker 2: just not believing that he goes two days and doesn't
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Speaker 2: even look out a window.
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Speaker 10: It's something he's not looking out the window. Is that
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Speaker 10: he's so hungover or he's so intoxicated he doesn't even
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Speaker 10: know what he speek.
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Speaker 2: Guys, it's not just Jonathan Price, who is Ricky Johnson's brother.
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Speaker 2: John Harrington, father of David Harrington, is in so much
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Speaker 2: pain and not getting answers.
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Speaker 1: Listen.
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Speaker 6: John Harrington, father of one of the deceased, David Harrington,
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Speaker 6: says he isn't getting info from the police. The Daily
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Speaker 6: Mail reports that Harrington says he has been in the
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Speaker 6: dark regarding the investigation and says he just wants to
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Speaker 6: know what happened to his son. Harrington says everything he
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Speaker 6: has put together about what he thinks happened is just him.
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Speaker 6: The police haven't shared anything with him. Harrington said, my
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Speaker 6: son is dead.
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Speaker 2: Why to Jonathan Price tell me what your family is
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Speaker 2: going through right now?
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Speaker 7: I mean, this has been the most difficult saying that
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Speaker 7: I've ever heard faced in my life, and I've I've
43:59
Speaker 7: been through his things, not that I would ever share
44:02
Speaker 7: or anything, but I'm it's it's immeasurable to lose somebody
44:08
Speaker 7: that growing up, he was somebody I always admired. I
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Speaker 7: looked up to him, and he's one of the very
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Speaker 7: very few people in my life that I can say
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Speaker 7: we never fought. Even when I was a kid and
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Speaker 7: he was eight years older than me, we never fought once.
44:28
Speaker 7: And I always jokingly said except for whenever I wanted
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Speaker 7: to watch Kywer Rangers and he wanted to watch Sports Center. Now,
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Speaker 7: that's the only time we ever fought. But I'm perfectly
44:39
Speaker 7: fine with that. And I'm going to be living with
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Speaker 7: regrets of not talking to my brother as much as
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Speaker 7: I should have throughout these years. But this is so difficult,
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Speaker 7: and I mean, I can't speak for my entire family,
44:53
Speaker 7: but you know, it's I would understand everybody because of
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Speaker 7: what Ricky was in their lives.
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Speaker 6: Him.
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Speaker 7: It was a good time. Looking back. Obviously, as a child,
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Speaker 7: I always thought he was picking on me and stuff
45:13
Speaker 7: like that, but looking back, I mean, it's so cherished
45:16
Speaker 7: memories and you know, even before he passed We would
45:20
Speaker 7: always joke about it and laugh about it, you know,
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Speaker 7: taking me to sports, going to see him play football
45:28
Speaker 7: in high school and college. I mean, he he was
45:32
Speaker 7: just an all around amazing person. And once he had
45:36
Speaker 7: his first daughter, you know, things changed for him. He
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Speaker 7: every everything was about her and and and trying to
45:46
Speaker 7: make things right. And I mean, it hurts me to
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Speaker 7: to think of him suffering, and I hope that he
45:53
Speaker 7: was not suffering at this time. But I mean, my
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Speaker 7: brother was a good, amazing man and anybody that knew
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Speaker 7: him would tell you that and what he would do
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Speaker 7: for them without any questions asked. He had such a
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Speaker 7: huge heart.
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Speaker 1: You were hearing, Jonathan Price.
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Speaker 2: This is Ricky Johnson's brother, found dead in the back
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Speaker 2: of Jordan Willis's home along with two other friends. Still
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Speaker 2: no answers. We wait as justice unfolds. God willing, goodbye friend,