Latest / Investor Exchange / Singtel's Stellar FY25: Growth and Capital Returns
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Okay, get ready for a really interesting deep dive today, because we're looking
- 0:12at a set of financial results that show, well, one of the most dramatic swings you'll probably see.
- 0:17We've been digging into the latest reports and statements for Singapore Telecommunications
- 0:22Limited, you know, Singtel.
- 0:23And the documents cover the second half of their financial year and the full
- 0:27year that just wrapped up on March 31st, 2025.
- 0:30That's right. So these reports give us a really comprehensive view.
- 0:34You get the recent performance over six months, but also the complete annual picture for FY 2025.
- 0:39And we can compare it directly against the previous year, FY 2024.
- 0:43And honestly, the headline numbers are just staggering. The company's reported
- 0:47net profit after tax for the full year absolutely soared. It really did.
- 0:52Jumping from $803.5 million in FY 2024 all the way up to $4,028.4 million on FY 2025.
- 1:01That's what, a five-fold increase? Pretty much, yeah, a huge leap.
- 1:05And this massive jump flow directly down to shareholders, you see profit attributable
- 1:09rising from $795.0 million to $4,017.4 million.
- 1:14And just look at the basic earnings per share it rocketed from just $0.482 to
- 1:20a really significant $0.2434.
- 1:23So the big question we need to unpack is.
- 1:26What really happened here? What drove this, well, this colossal shift in reported profit?
- 1:32And what does it tell us about Singtel's year? Well, what's fascinating here
- 1:37is that while that reporting net profit figure is incredibly eye-catching to
- 1:41truly understand the year, you really have to look beyond it.
- 1:44These financial statements clearly highlight the impact of what they call exceptional items.
- 1:48Exceptional items. And these are significant, often one-off events.
- 1:52And they had a really profound influence on that headline number.
- 1:55Ah, okay. Okay. So the reported profit isn't just about the day-to-day running
- 1:59of the business. It includes these exceptional items. Exactly.
- 2:03So how do we see the performance of the core business then away from these one-offs?
- 2:07Right. So the documents provide a clearer picture of the core operations through
- 2:11the underlying net profit figure.
- 2:13This number is basically calculated by stripping out those exceptional items.
- 2:16And the underlying net profit also showed growth, increasing from S2,261 million
- 2:21dollars in FY 2024, test $2,470 million in FY 2025.
- 2:26Now, that's a healthy 9.2 percent increase year on year. Okay. 9.2 percent.
- 2:30Much more normal, I guess. Yeah, exactly. This 9.2 percent is a much better
- 2:35indicator of the operational trend, which was positive, but is clearly not the
- 2:39enormous jump you see in the reported figure.
- 2:41Okay, right. So the core business grew steadily, a solid 9.2 percent,
- 2:45but that five-fold reported profit increase came from somewhere else entirely.
- 2:49Where did that big jump in the reported profit originate if the underlying profit
- 2:53only grew 9.2%. What made the difference?
- 2:56The difference lies squarely in that exceptional items section of the accounts.
- 2:59The reports show that in FY 2025, the group recorded a net gain of F-984.9 million
- 3:05dollars from these items. A gain. Okay.
- 3:07Nearly a billion dollars. Yes. And this is a huge swing compared to FY 2024,
- 3:10which included a substantial net loss of S-150.3 million dollars from exceptional
- 3:15items. A loss of over a billion last year. Wow.
- 3:18So the absence of those large losses and the presence of these large gains in
- 3:21the current year are the primary drivers of that reported profit surge you saw.
- 3:25All right. This is where it gets really interesting.
- 3:27What were these significant gains in FY 2025?
- 3:31What assets did they sell or what happened that added almost a billion dollars
- 3:35in these exceptional gains? Okay. So the documents detail several key items.
- 3:39The largest single gain was S1,291 million dollars from the partial disposal
- 3:45of the comm center property right here in Singapore.
- 3:47Ah, comm center. Very big. Then they also recorded a gain of $178 million from
- 3:53selling a partial stake in InTouch. That's one of the regional associates. Right.
- 3:57And $22 million from selling a partial stake in Indara, which is a towers business.
- 4:01Plus, there's also a $65 million dilution gain related to Airtel,
- 4:05another major associate investment.
- 4:07Okay. So several asset sales piling up. Precisely.
- 4:10Now, contrast that with what happened in FY 2024, which the sources also highlight.
- 4:14The prior year included some very significant exceptional losses.
- 4:18Critically, there was a massive S-2,604.2 million dollars for impairment of goodwill. 2.6 billion.
- 4:25Ouch. Yes. And another S-512.8 million dollars for impairment of property, plant, and equipment.
- 4:32Essentially, these were huge write-downs on the value of assets or maybe past
- 4:37acquisitions. So recognizing things weren't worth as much as they thought. Pretty much.
- 4:41And FY 2024 also included some operational costs they classified as exceptional,
- 4:46like $53.5 million related to that network outage they had in Australia. I remember that.
- 4:52So when you compare the two years, FY 2025 benefits not only from the gains
- 4:56from selling assets, but also, crucially,
- 4:59from the absence of those multi-billion dollar impairment losses that really
- 5:04hammered FY 2024's reported profit. Wow.
- 5:08OK, that really does put the reported number in perspective.
- 5:10So just to make sure we're crystal clear for everyone listening,
- 5:13the huge reported profit surge wasn't driven by some dramatic improvement in
- 5:17their core business operations this year.
- 5:19No, it was primarily driven by significant gains from selling assets and maybe
- 5:24even more importantly, the fact that they didn't have those massive write downs
- 5:27they took the year before.
- 5:28That's the key takeaway on the reported number. But the core operational business
- 5:32did grow at a solid pace. That 9.2% underlying profit increase we mentioned,
- 5:37it just wasn't the engine for that five-fold reported jump.
- 5:40Exactly right. Okay, so let's peel back another layer then. We know the underlying
- 5:43profit was up 9.2%. What were the operational drivers within the core business
- 5:48that achieved that growth?
- 5:50You know, looking at things like revenue and profitability measures like EBITDA and EBIT.
- 5:55So if we connect this to the bigger picture of their day-to-day performance,
- 5:59well, the group's operating revenue for the full year was actually quite stable.
- 6:02It only increased by 0.1% to $14,146.1 million.
- 6:09Flat revenue, basically. Pretty much. However, they saw improved profitability
- 6:13below that revenue line.
- 6:15Group EBITDA increased by 5.4% to $3,792 million. Now, for listeners who might
- 6:21not, you know, live and breathe financial reports, EBITDA stands for Earnings
- 6:25Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization.
- 6:28It's a key measure of a company's operating profitability before you factor
- 6:32in financing costs, taxes, and non-cash stuff like depreciation. Good clarification.
- 6:37And Group EBIT, which is Earnings Before Interest and Taxes,
- 6:40rose even more strongly, up 11.1% to S3,880.2 million dollars.
- 6:47OK, so better margins even on flat revenue. Yes.
- 6:50And the reports also note that in constant currency terms, meaning stripping
- 6:54out the effect of foreign exchange rate movements, which is important for a
- 6:57company like Singtel with big international operations, the operational growth
- 7:01for EBITDA and EBIT was actually slightly higher.
- 7:04Right. Good point. Now, looking at the performance of the individual business
- 7:06segments gives us more detail on where that improvement came from.
- 7:09The documents attribute this operational improvement mainly to strong performance
- 7:13from Optus in Australia and their technology services arm, NCS.
- 7:17Okay, Optus and NCS driving it. Yeah.
- 7:19For Optus, measured in Australian dollars, operating revenue grew 1.4%,
- 7:23EBITDA grew 6.1%, and EBIT saw a very substantial jump of 52.3%.
- 7:2952% jump in EBIT for Optus. That's strong. Very strong.
- 7:33And this was driven primarily by improvements in their mobile business.
- 7:36Specifically, they saw price increases in postpaid plans, which boosted average
- 7:40revenue per user, or ARPU.
- 7:42Ah, higher prices helping the bottom line. And it's also higher home revenues
- 7:46from NBN and fixed wireless access.
- 7:48They did see declines in wholesale and enterprise fixed revenue within Optus,
- 7:52but the core mobile and home areas were strong. Okay.
- 7:55And NCS. Then there's NCS, their digital transformation and tech services business.
- 8:00Operating revenue for NCS grew 1.9%, so similar top-line growth to Optus,
- 8:05but their profitability just soared.
- 8:07EBITDA increased sharply by 38.5 percent, and EBIT grew strongly by 38.2 percent.
- 8:13The documents explicitly state this reflects improved profitability at NCS.
- 8:18So they're getting much better returns there.
- 8:20Interesting. A big turnaround in profitability for NCS. It seems so.
- 8:24However, it wasn't growth across the board. The reports do show declines in
- 8:28Singapore's operating revenue, NANGUS 2.1 percent, EBITDA made it 0.6 percent,
- 8:33and EBIT made it 0.6 percent.
- 8:34So the home market was a bit softer. A little bit, yeah.
- 8:37And their digital Infroto segment, which includes things like data centers and
- 8:40other infrastructure, also saw a decrease with both EBITDA and EBIT down 9.4%.
- 8:45Okay, so it sounds like that underlying operational growth,
- 8:48that 9.2% in underlying profit, was really propped up by strong performance
- 8:53in Optus' core mobile and home services, driven by those price increases and
- 8:58customer uptake and significant improvements in profitability at NCS.
- 9:01And these gains managed to offset some weaker performance in their domestic
- 9:05Singapore business and that newer digital infracost segment.
- 9:08That's a good summary of the operational drivers.
- 9:10What does this tell us about where the momentum is or perhaps maybe isn't right
- 9:14now in the core business?
- 9:15Well, it definitely highlights Optus and NCS as key performers this year.
- 9:20But it also raises an important point about another major component of their
- 9:23overall financial performance, the contributions from their investments in associates
- 9:27and joint ventures. Ah, yes, their regional holdings.
- 9:30Exactly. The share of results they get from these companies significantly increased in FY2025.
- 9:35Came in at $2,569.6 million compared to S1,361.5 million in FY 2024.
- 9:44It's a big jump too, almost double. It's a substantial part of their overall income, yeah.
- 9:48And do the sources tell us which associates were the main contributors to that
- 9:53increase? Was it across the board or specific ones?
- 9:56Yes. The documents specify that the increase in pre-tax contributions,
- 9:59which were up 6.9% overall, or 9.8% if you look at it in constant currency terms,
- 10:04was largely due to strong performances from the Airtel Group.
- 10:07Their big investment in India and Africa. Right, and AIS in Thailand.
- 10:12However, the strong growth was partially offset by lower contributions from
- 10:16Telcumsul in Indonesia and Globe in the Philippines. Okay.
- 10:20So their regional investments, particularly Airtel and AIS, were significant
- 10:24positive drivers for the underlying profit this year.
- 10:26It really does look like their strategy of holding substantial stakes in these
- 10:30regional telecom players like Airtel and AIS paid off handsomely this year.
- 10:35They contributed significantly to that overall positive underlying profit trend.
- 10:39Definitely. It's a key part of their earnings mix.
- 10:42And just briefly touching on other aspects of their financial health mentioned
- 10:46in the reports, group-free cash flows saw a slight decrease year-on-year.
- 10:50Down 3.6%. However, the documents add an important note.
- 10:54If you exclude a significant one-off tax payment made to the Australian Taxation
- 10:59Office, the ATO, Free cash flow actually increased by a healthy 3.2%. Oh, okay.
- 11:04So underlying cash flow was still positive if you adjust for that tax payment. Seems so.
- 11:09Also, the net asset value per ordinary share, which is kind of a measure of
- 11:14the company's underlying book value per share, increased slightly from $51 to
- 11:18$1.57, Biss and Furn. Okay.
- 11:20Their debt levels also saw a slight increase relative to their size.
- 11:23The net debt gearing ratio increased from 23.8% to 26.7%. Bit more leverage. A little bit, yeah.
- 11:30And the net debt to EBITDA ratio went from 1.31 times to 1.50 times.
- 11:36These ratios basically indicate how much debt the company is using compared
- 11:39to its assets and operating earnings.
- 11:41A slight increase suggests they've taken on a little more leverage,
- 11:44which the documents seem to relate to a decrease in their cash balance reported
- 11:47in the cash flow statement. Right.
- 11:49So, wrapping up the performance side then, FY 2025 for Singtel was really a
- 11:55year defined by that huge reported profit recovery, driven overwhelmingly by
- 11:59those one-off gains from selling assets and, crucially,
- 12:02avoiding the massive write-downs of the previous year.
- 12:06Below that headline number, the core operational business showed solid improvement
- 12:10thanks to stronger performance in Optus and NCS and a healthy boost from their
- 12:14regional associates like Airtel and AIS. A good summary.
- 12:18Now, the big question looking forward is, what do the sources hint at about
- 12:22what's next for Singtel? Where do they go from here? Does it give us an outlook?
- 12:26Well, while the financial reports don't contain a dedicated sort of forward-looking
- 12:30outlook section in the traditional sense, the notes to the statements and various
- 12:34strategic mentions do provide some clear signals about their priorities.
- 12:38Okay. What clues are there?
- 12:39For instance, note 24 is quite significant.
- 12:42It mentions a planned S2.0 billion dollar share buyback program extending over
- 12:47the next three years, running until FY2028.
- 12:50Two billion in buybacks. That's substantial. It is.
- 12:53And crucially, the documents state, this program is planned to be funded by
- 12:58excess capital from asset recycling proceeds.
- 13:01Asset recycling proceeds. So, money from selling more assets.
- 13:06That seems to be the direct implication, yes.
- 13:08This S2 billion dollar buyback, funded by asset sales, really reveals Singtel's
- 13:14core strategy right now.
- 13:16They're looking to return capital to shareholders from monetizing non-core or
- 13:20mature assets. It implies that further portfolio management or asset sales are
- 13:25likely anticipated as a way to fund this.
- 13:27It's a clear move to optimize their capital structure and reward shareholders.
- 13:31So potentially more sales like CommCenter or the InTouch stake down the line?
- 13:36That's what it suggests.
- 13:37The documents also highlight strategic activities within specific business lines
- 13:41that point to future focus areas.
- 13:43For example, at Optus, they mentioned extending their wholesale mobile partnership
- 13:47with Aussie Broadband and also fast-tracking their 5G rollout through a network-sharing arrangement.
- 13:52Okay. Investing in the core network and partnerships in Australia.
- 13:55Exactly. These are specific investments and partnerships aimed at strengthening
- 13:58their core mobile network and market position there.
- 14:00Makes sense. What else? Furthermore, the very way they define and report on
- 14:04their segments now signals where they see future growth.
- 14:08The reports clearly define digital InfraCo. Right, the infrastructure arm.
- 14:12Yeah, and they highlight Nixera data centers, the Paragon platform,
- 14:16and REAI for AI cloud services.
- 14:19And NCS is defined by its focus areas in digital, data, cloud,
- 14:24and cyber capabilities.
- 14:26So they're carving out these specific growth areas. Exactly.
- 14:29These defined segments aren't just reporting categories. they feel like strategic
- 14:33pillars, indicating where the company intends to invest and build capabilities
- 14:36for future revenue and profit growth. Okay.
- 14:40So piecing together these hints from the documents, the path forward for Cintel
- 14:44seems to involve strategically selling assets to return capital to shareholders.
- 14:49Funded by asset sales. Continuing to invest in and strengthen a core network
- 14:53capabilities like 5G, maybe through partnerships.
- 14:55Yes. And placing significant bets on building up capabilities in these newer,
- 15:00potentially higher growth areas like data centers, AI services,
- 15:03and cybersecurity through segments like Digital InfraCo and NCS.
- 15:07Yeah, it's a picture of refining the existing portfolio while simultaneously
- 15:12investing for the future in these specific digital areas.
- 15:15That wraps up our deep dive into Singtel's financials for the year ended March 2025 then.
- 15:21It was certainly a year defined by that huge reported profit surge. Definitely a headline.
- 15:27Heavily influenced by those one-off gains from asset sales in the absence of
- 15:31the large write-downs they took the year before, but also alongside that.
- 15:35Solid underlying operational improvements driven by Optus and NCS and that strong
- 15:40boost from their regional associates. Absolutely.
- 15:42We saw how those strategic asset sales contributed substantially to this year's
- 15:46bottom line and are now explicitly planned to fund significant capital returns
- 15:51to shareholders over the next few years.
- 15:52We also got a clear glimpse into the specific areas where they are focusing
- 15:56their investments for future growth,
- 15:58from improving core mobile services and network infrastructure through partnerships
- 16:02to expanding into potentially higher growth digital infrastructure and technology
- 16:06services through their specialized segments.
- 16:08Which leads us to a final provocative thought for you, the listener.
- 16:13Given how much this year's massive reported profit relied on those asset sales
- 16:17and the absence of prior year impairments, what does that tell us about where
- 16:21the company's true, sustainable operational growth is expected to come from in the coming years?
- 16:26Will the underlying operational improvements we saw in Optus and NCS,
- 16:31combined with the strategic investments in new digital areas,
- 16:34be enough to drive significant future profits without relying on selling off more parts of business?
- 16:40That's the key question, isn't it? Sustainability. It really is.
- 16:43That raises an important question for you to consider as you evaluate the future
- 16:47prospects based on these kinds of financial reports. You need to look beyond the headline.
- 16:51And that's our deep dive for today. Thanks for joining us.
- 16:56Thank you.