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- 0:00Ejaaz: OpenAI announced they're building their very own AI chip, custom designed for
- 0:04Ejaaz: OpenAI models, Codex, ChatGPT.
- 0:07Ejaaz: But the craziest part was it was designed by their AI models themselves.
- 0:11Ejaaz: Everything from the software stack to potentially even the hardware design itself
- 0:15Ejaaz: was made by OpenAI's internal model, as well as Codex, their coding model.
- 0:20Ejaaz: It's going live in nine months, which is absolutely crazy. Typically,
- 0:23Ejaaz: these things take one to two years to at least design and build the first couple of prototypes.
- 0:27Ejaaz: So the fact that OpenAI is entering this market is the first real example of
- 0:30Ejaaz: an AI lab owning the entire stack, going from hardware all the way to frontier
- 0:35Ejaaz: AI models. Now, in other news, we've seen a few rumors.
- 0:38Ejaaz: Fable 5, the most powerful model from Anthropic, might be coming back a lot more on that.
- 0:42Ejaaz: And Micron absolutely killed their earnings report, blowing every bare expectation
- 0:48Ejaaz: out of the water and expecting to make more revenue than nvidia did in q3 of
- 0:52Ejaaz: last year a lot of stuff to go through today
- 0:54Josh: Is spicy little jalapeno look at that this is exciting it's it's fun to see
- 0:59Josh: the open ai team move into i guess enterprise hardware is what we would call
- 1:02Josh: this they're making their own chips
- 1:04Josh: and who's the last company that made their own chips we have google who has
- 1:07Josh: their tpus incredible amazon has tranium and now
- 1:11Josh: open ai has their own jalapeno chips and it's important to note that they're
- 1:15Josh: going the same route as amazon and as Google.
- 1:18Josh: This isn't a GPU, it's an ASIC. It is a chip specifically designed for a very
- 1:23Josh: narrow task instead of something general purpose.
- 1:25Josh: Traditionally, when OpenAI was to use NVIDIA's GPUs, the bottleneck isn't actually
- 1:31Josh: the compute, but instead it's the memory that sits on the chip.
- 1:34Josh: So at any given time, they're paying for 100% of the GPU, but they're maybe
- 1:38Josh: using 70 to 80% of the capacity because they're limited by that memory bandwidth.
- 1:43Josh: What these accelerators are going to do with this asic chip whatever this jalapeno
- 1:46Josh: chip is the idea is that it's going to be used for inference it is going to
- 1:50Josh: be purpose built to supply ai tokens very very fast and to be fully utilized and that utilization
- 1:56Josh: when vertically integrated creates magical things we always talk about this
- 1:59Josh: on the show about apple and their m series chips
- 2:01Josh: and how it was such a step function improvement in.
- 2:05Josh: Every single aspect of the devices. It was like a day and night difference overnight
- 2:09Josh: when they released this chip.
- 2:10Josh: There's an opportunity for OpenAI to do that now because owning the stack allows
- 2:14Josh: you to squeeze out so much more efficiency than you have anywhere else.
- 2:17Josh: And it's very exciting to see them build a chip that looks something like this.
- 2:21Josh: I liked the idea that they used ChatGPT to actually accelerate the creation
- 2:25Josh: of this chip. I think it was nine months, which is pretty damn fast.
- 2:29Josh: And you have to assume that these two things are going to exist in parallel,
- 2:32Josh: right? It's like as Chachi Petit gets better, it is able to help with the tape
- 2:36Josh: out and the design of this chip.
- 2:37Josh: As the chip gets better, it's able to process tokens more efficiently and better.
- 2:41Josh: And it's this like kind of cycle that this flywheel that they're starting.
- 2:44Josh: And I think this is step one. I mean, it's very exciting to see them getting in the game.
- 2:47Ejaaz: I think the entire story for this has got nothing to do with the chip and more
- 2:51Ejaaz: so that the models were used to design the chip. So like the way I see it is,
- 2:56Ejaaz: The most scarce resource that every single AI lab that's fighting out for the
- 3:00Ejaaz: number one position has right now is compute.
- 3:02Ejaaz: And where you apply that compute defines whether you're going to win the race or not.
- 3:06Ejaaz: Now, for the last nine months, or for the last year, at least,
- 3:09Ejaaz: Anthropic has made it very clear that it's coding.
- 3:12Ejaaz: So use the compute to train a better model that's better at coding.
- 3:16Ejaaz: If you own the best coding model, it can build pretty much the entire software stack.
- 3:21Ejaaz: Now, emphasis on the software stack.
- 3:23Ejaaz: What good is AGI or an AGI-like model if it runs on sub-optimal hardware?
- 3:28Ejaaz: So seeing OpenAI make this move, realizing that they've used all their compute
- 3:32Ejaaz: to train a model that can then build or design better hardware,
- 3:36Ejaaz: that then potentially makes sure that they spend less money
- 3:40Ejaaz: to run the same level of intelligence, means that they have more compute in
- 3:44Ejaaz: the future to build whatever model that they want, and it runs on optimal uh
- 3:48Ejaaz: inference or whatever hardware stack that they build so this to me is like uh
- 3:53Ejaaz: that kind of like mind-blowing moment that i had
- 3:55Ejaaz: Uh whatever a year ago when called code went live i was like oh my god
- 3:58Ejaaz: coding is the future opening is kind of like strategically made a very cool
- 4:02Ejaaz: decision here where they're like
- 4:03Ejaaz: no we want to own the hardware as well and we don't want to rely on nvidia and
- 4:07Ejaaz: we're going to partner up with broadcom we're going to partner up with mediatek
- 4:10Ejaaz: which by the way like these are companies broadcom is publicly traded so this
- 4:13Ejaaz: is these are companies that like
- 4:15Ejaaz: could potentially rival NVIDIA in the future to build their own chip.
- 4:19Ejaaz: And the fact that they're releasing it,
- 4:20Ejaaz: by the end of this year, is just a sign of the times that OpenAI,
- 4:24Ejaaz: that doesn't have any scaling hardware experience, has been able to accelerate
- 4:27Ejaaz: this using their own model. So it's the first real proof that you can do this,
- 4:31Ejaaz: not just on the software scale, but on the hardware scale.
- 4:33Josh: It's just very cool. Yeah. You know what other chip Broadcom makes?
- 4:36Josh: Google's TPUs. It's the same company that makes the TPUs that are actively working today.
- 4:40Josh: And Broadcom's CEO actually said these are on par with the NVIDIA Blackwell chips.
- 4:44Josh: This is really exciting. I mean, it's cool to see open ai move into more hardware
- 4:49Josh: feels like they're becoming this well-rounded entity they have the consumer
- 4:52Josh: hardware angle that they're working on with the love from team and johnny ive
- 4:55Josh: they have this enterprise hardware that they're using for their vertically integrated
- 4:58Josh: stack of like actually generating tokens and then they have this large software
- 5:01Josh: pillar that exists both in enterprise and consumer and it's like all right open
- 5:05Josh: ai you could like start to see them planting the seeds for these pillars you remember.
- 5:09Ejaaz: What our number one critic was for the consumer device right josh we were like,
- 5:13Ejaaz: we're excited about this, but like, will they be able to scale this at all?
- 5:17Ejaaz: And they've been able to do this for like the hardest technical chip architecture
- 5:20Ejaaz: ever. It's just, it's impressive,
- 5:21Josh: Man. I'm very excited about it. We also have other news that I must ask you
- 5:25Josh: about, EJ, as our resident investing consultant in the world of AI and memory.
- 5:30Josh: Because I remember talking about Micron, like, I don't know,
- 5:33Josh: maybe a couple months ago, six months ago, maybe 12 months ago.
- 5:36Josh: And it was like a small fraction of what it is today. It seems like these memory
- 5:40Josh: stocks continue to just go up.
- 5:42Josh: Every day, I'm looking at them plus 15%, plus 15% with no end in sight.
- 5:46Josh: And Micron just reported earnings and they continue that trend.
- 5:49Josh: I think they're up 20% this morning as we're recording this.
- 5:52Josh: Yeah, that's unbelievable. 17.5%.
- 5:55Ejaaz: What's 2.5%?
- 5:56Josh: Like, tell me, Micron, can you just actually zoom out for a little bit on six
- 6:00Josh: months maybe? Just so we could see a little bit of the trajectory.
- 6:04Josh: Yeah. Like that's crazy. A 10X in six months.
- 6:07Ejaaz: Yes, exactly. Yeah, exactly. 10X in six months.
- 6:09Josh: Oh, wait, no, sorry. That's a 3X in six months. $1,000 of gain.
- 6:12Josh: That's probably the correct.
- 6:14Ejaaz: Either way, they're up a lot. So the question then becomes, what's going on
- 6:19Ejaaz: with Micron? What's changed? Has something novel broken through in the AI memory
- 6:23Ejaaz: trade? We've spoken about this a lot on the show before.
- 6:25Ejaaz: It goes something like this. If you have an AI chip, if you're using AI models,
- 6:30Ejaaz: if you want it to understand you, if you want it to remember stuff about you.
- 6:34Ejaaz: Guess what? You need memory for it to store all the information about you.
- 6:37Ejaaz: Now, there's two ways to store it.
- 6:38Ejaaz: You can have memory on the chip itself, or you can have memory that's live in
- 6:41Ejaaz: the session that you basically need a lot of memory.
- 6:44Ejaaz: Micron is one of the key suppliers. They're actually number three,
- 6:48Ejaaz: believe it or not, but they're the number one American supplier of memory chips.
- 6:51Ejaaz: And they had their earnings report go live after market trading hours yesterday.
- 6:55Ejaaz: And I'm not kidding. They blew it out of the water.
- 6:59Ejaaz: $41 billion in quarterly revenue. For context, that is around 15% more revenue
- 7:05Ejaaz: than NVIDIA, the largest, most valuable company in the world,
- 7:08Ejaaz: made this time last year.
- 7:09Ejaaz: Their projected revenue for the next quarter is going to be around $55 billion,
- 7:14Ejaaz: making $38 billion profit off of that, which is, again, record-beating,
- 7:21Ejaaz: way more than NVIDIA made this time last year.
- 7:24Ejaaz: To provide context, they make one component for the entire GPU or chip architecture.
- 7:29Ejaaz: So the reason why the stock is rallying is not just because it beat its earnings, believe it or not.
- 7:35Ejaaz: It's because it disproved a very important theory that a lot of bears have on
- 7:39Ejaaz: the AI memory trade, which is the memory trade has topped. There's too many people in it.
- 7:44Ejaaz: This week, literally two days ago, the Korean Stock Exchange had to shut down
- 7:48Ejaaz: because too many people were over-levered. they were borrowing money and buying
- 7:51Ejaaz: into this stock and buying into like Korean memory stocks, SK Hynix and Samsung.
- 7:57Ejaaz: And basically, they said like, this is too much. The trade is overcrowded.
- 8:00Ejaaz: What the earnings report from Micron revealed yesterday is that the demand hasn't even started yet.
- 8:06Ejaaz: This week, they signed a very important partnership with, you might have heard
- 8:09Ejaaz: of this company, Anthropic.
- 8:11Ejaaz: They signed a pretty huge deal with Anthropic, basically saying that they're
- 8:15Ejaaz: going to be the prime memory provider for all Anthropics GPU co-partnerships going forward.
- 8:20Ejaaz: And maybe if they build their own ASIC in the same way that OpenAI just released
- 8:24Ejaaz: or announced Jalapeno, they will also use Micron.
- 8:27Ejaaz: So the idea here is memory demand is going up way, way, way more exponentially
- 8:33Ejaaz: than memory optimization can happen in models. So let's say you create a new
- 8:37Ejaaz: model that demands less memory.
- 8:38Ejaaz: It doesn't matter because the demand for more people using more agents etc that
- 8:42Ejaaz: require even more memory is there and micron is going to be the primary provider
- 8:46Ejaaz: of that that's why the stock is up almost 20 this morning it would disprove in the best
- 8:50Josh: In the case that like the even the ai train stops there are other use cases
- 8:54Josh: for memory it's like everything is requiring memory and that next thing is that
- 8:58Josh: physical ai the robotic demand it's like all the the physical infrastructure
- 9:02Josh: that's going to be built with ai
- 9:04Josh: all of these things need memory all of the autonomous robo taxis that are on
- 9:07Josh: the road need memory all of the future optimists and humanoid robots that are going to be deployed.
- 9:12Josh: They all need memory. Everything needs a tremendous amount of memory to process.
- 9:15Ejaaz: Josh, you have a Tesla, right?
- 9:17Josh: Yes, I do.
- 9:18Ejaaz: Guess how much more memory your Tesla requires than the average car that has a smart system.
- 9:23Josh: Oh, that's a great question. I have no idea. Do you know the number?
- 9:26Ejaaz: Five to eight X, depending on the model. And guess what? The later models need
- 9:29Ejaaz: more memory. So the trend basically is as these autonomous vehicles go live
- 9:34Ejaaz: and improve version over version, you need way, way more memory.
- 9:38Ejaaz: There's only three suppliers. Micron is number three. You do the math.
- 9:42Josh: That's unbelievable. What a great opportunity for Micron. And they're also doing
- 9:45Josh: stuff outside of just publishing great earnings. They're signing deals with
- 9:49Josh: pretty large companies. The most recent one being Anthropic,
- 9:52Josh: you might have heard of them.
- 9:53Josh: It sounds like they are now officially working together. What is the capacity
- 9:57Josh: of this deal? What does the deal actually consist of? Do you know? Yeah.
- 10:00Ejaaz: So basically, Anthropic has a ton of investments in data centers in general,
- 10:05Ejaaz: and a lot of it is to do with GPUs.
- 10:08Ejaaz: But in order to kind of make sure these GPUs work well together and
- 10:12Ejaaz: in the future where Anthropic wants to create their own inference chip in the
- 10:15Ejaaz: same way that OpenAIR's created Jalapeno, they need to design the perfect memory
- 10:20Ejaaz: architecture and the custom racks to be able to suit the memory implementation
- 10:25Ejaaz: into all these different chips.
- 10:26Ejaaz: What better way to do that than not hiring a staff team on your own,
- 10:30Ejaaz: but partnering up with the number one memory or the number three memory company,
- 10:34Ejaaz: but the number one memory company in the US that is like completely beating earnings.
- 10:39Ejaaz: So now what Micron is going to do is they're going to form a team,
- 10:42Ejaaz: they're going to place it in Anthropic, and they're going to work very closely
- 10:44Ejaaz: with the Anthropic team on any chip architectures that they build in the future.
- 10:48Ejaaz: And you might be wondering, well, isn't this a conflict of interest?
- 10:50Ejaaz: Well, actually, Micron put in a pretty large check into Anthropic's recent Series H round, I believe.
- 10:57Ejaaz: So they're also part owners of Anthropic. So it's all kind of like this symbiotic
- 11:02Ejaaz: kind of like thing that they're in right now.
- 11:04Josh: Well, there's also another fun news update that we have to share because there
- 11:08Josh: is a Mythos class model that is coming. And it's not from where you would expect.
- 11:12Josh: It's from Meta, who claims they are on the way to their Mythos class model.
- 11:16Josh: This sounds amazing. This is very exciting on paper.
- 11:19Josh: The problem is the timeline of the Mythos class model.
- 11:23Josh: It seems like there is no timeline at all to what it's going to be.
- 11:27Josh: Is it nine months? It's nine months.
- 11:29Josh: Okay, so in the time it takes to birth a human child, Meta will somehow figure
- 11:33Josh: out how to create a Mythos class model.
- 11:35Josh: And it begs the question, it's like, well, if you're getting to Mythos in nine
- 11:38Josh: months from now, then what is the future Mythos class model going to look like in nine months?
- 11:43Josh: And that seems like a bit of a problem for them. I mean, that essentially puts
- 11:46Josh: them behind the open source labs, right? Because the open source labs are six months behind.
- 11:51Ejaaz: It's going to look worse than an open source model. So the irony is you have meta that went from
- 11:56Ejaaz: building and releasing models in an open source fashion to then becoming closed
- 11:59Ejaaz: source because they had this super special model that they were training only
- 12:02Ejaaz: to get outcompeted by all the Chinese AI labs that have a better open source model.
- 12:07Ejaaz: Definitely in nine months time this is crazy it's
- 12:10Josh: Crazy time yeah so i mean is meta cooked i don't know we do have some good news
- 12:14Josh: at least on the meta front in the sense that they they revealed some glasses
- 12:17Josh: they have some glasses now um which i thought were actually great it's.
- 12:21Ejaaz: Already low josh come on
- 12:24Josh: So here on the right we have evan spiegel's glasses from snapchat that were released earlier,
- 12:29Josh: this week last week i think and uh they were horrendous they were nothing short of just an abomination,
- 12:34Josh: zuck tried his own version of this which we know meta has been working on these
- 12:38Josh: smart glasses and you know what
- 12:39Josh: i think it's a home run for what this is i think they did a great job they partnered
- 12:43Josh: up with kylie jenner who we're seeing on screen to do the i guess promotion
- 12:48Josh: to be the face of it she has a voice when you talk to the ai and what i like about these,
- 12:52Josh: is the lack of ambition within them and i think they have kind of grounded themselves
- 12:56Josh: in reality here where a lot of people are trying to do the heads-up display
- 13:00Josh: like the virtual display that requires a lot more technology baked into it
- 13:03Josh: these glasses they look reasonable they don't look any different than normal
- 13:06Josh: glasses which is great they have a microphone built in they have the speakers
- 13:10Josh: built in and they have two cameras on the sides and it's enough to be that,
- 13:14Josh: like intermediary interface with ai that isn't quite your phone,
- 13:18Josh: but it still exists on your face and you could still engage with it so i think
- 13:21Josh: like from a product standpoint this is the most exciting offering to date as
- 13:25Josh: it relates to smart glasses how useful are they not super useful maybe they're
- 13:30Josh: just a fun gimmick now but I thought they did a really nice job.
- 13:32Ejaaz: You know what? I would buy this product if Apple released it because,
- 13:36Ejaaz: okay, if you're not going to give me a visual display on my lens,
- 13:38Ejaaz: if it's just going to be basically speakers and a microphone,
- 13:41Ejaaz: it should feed into some sort of device.
- 13:44Ejaaz: I'm not pulling up the Meta app on my iPhone. Like that, ew.
- 13:48Ejaaz: Like I will just use whatever Apple creates in the future.
- 13:52Ejaaz: Now, is it sleeker and is it cheaper than their Ray-Ban display,
- 13:55Ejaaz: which was ironically their flagship announcement from their hardware conference?
- 14:01Ejaaz: Less than probably nine months ago last year um like yeah cool that's better
- 14:06Ejaaz: um but is it actually going to be practical and useful to me
- 14:10Ejaaz: uh i'm not entirely convinced by it but is it better than snaps glasses and
- 14:13Ejaaz: will i more likely wear it yes um i heard a hilarious rumor that
- 14:18Ejaaz: uh can leon's is happening right now it's like a big kind of advertising influencer
- 14:21Ejaaz: type thing in france and apparently evan spiegel is over there trying to convince
- 14:26Ejaaz: robert downey jr to become one of his ambassadors for Snap Specs.
- 14:30Ejaaz: He's offered him $100 million.
- 14:31Ejaaz: And the fact that there hasn't been a confirmed headline out there just tells
- 14:35Ejaaz: you how bad some of the Snap Gosses is. So the bar is low.
- 14:37Ejaaz: But one of my major critiques of Zuck in the past for his hardware specifically
- 14:42Ejaaz: is he has not got the supply chain infrastructure to build it himself.
- 14:45Ejaaz: And he's proven me wrong. So, you know, I raise my hands.
- 14:48Josh: I hope they can pull it off. I really do. There's another unlikely combination
- 14:52Josh: of Ergus collaboration, we could call it, that is a little bit even more out
- 14:56Josh: of left field and Kyla Jenner and Meta.
- 14:58Josh: And that is A24 and Google.
- 15:01Josh: And yes, A24, the film production agency and Google, the technology company,
- 15:05Josh: they have announced a partnership to now work together.
- 15:08Josh: And it seems like they're going to work together on using these AI tools to
- 15:12Josh: further develop the storytelling ability of A24.
- 15:16Josh: And when I first heard the news, I was like, that doesn't really make sense.
- 15:19Josh: What does Google AI and Google DeepMind have to do with A24?
- 15:23Josh: And then I started thinking through like okay well they have the world models
- 15:26Josh: we know that they are excellent at world models we know that they have
- 15:29Josh: their vo class models the video generation models they have the music generation
- 15:34Josh: models that generate pretty good songs and generate lyrics they have nano banana
- 15:37Josh: which generates the visual images
- 15:39Josh: and then i'm like oh okay well actually yeah like all of the core pillars of storytelling
- 15:44Josh: can be made by these google deep mind models and they're actually like all pretty
- 15:48Josh: much sitting along the frontier in their respective capabilities so i think
- 15:52Josh: this is That's a pretty exciting news update that 824,
- 15:56Josh: people that make a lot of the movies that I think we all enjoy,
- 15:58Josh: they are now getting DeepMind models at their disposal. And I think that's, that seems pretty cool.
- 16:03Ejaaz: It's important to point out that this investment deal doesn't mean that Google
- 16:07Ejaaz: gets access to all the video content or copyright IP that A24 has.
- 16:12Ejaaz: In fact, there's a strict line that's been drawn that you can't train any future
- 16:16Ejaaz: Google VO or video models on A24 content.
- 16:20Ejaaz: That's not the goal of this deal. The goal of this deal is we want to be thoughtful
- 16:25Ejaaz: in Hollywood about not replacing human producers and directors, etc.
- 16:31Ejaaz: How do we build tools that amplify the work and taste that they have,
- 16:35Ejaaz: the vision, the ideas that they have?
- 16:37Ejaaz: That's the whole vision behind the tweet that you're seeing from Scott Belsky,
- 16:41Ejaaz: who is a partner and I think founder of A24 Labs, which is their kind of like research division.
- 16:48Ejaaz: And they decided that Google was the best partner to work with.
- 16:51Ejaaz: Google has the capital, they have all the data to kind of like feed into like
- 16:55Ejaaz: what the best tool might look like.
- 16:57Ejaaz: And they have the time, they have the patience, right?
- 17:00Ejaaz: You know, they have YouTube, they have a wealth of resources that they can pull
- 17:02Ejaaz: from that might help and aid A24.
- 17:05Ejaaz: Now, A24 has a pretty impressive roster of investors at this point,
- 17:10Ejaaz: Josh, they have Thrive Capital on their cap table.
- 17:13Ejaaz: And now they have Google, they're valued after this recent investment from google
- 17:17Ejaaz: at around 3.4 billion dollars making them probably one of the most valuable
- 17:22Ejaaz: producing uh hollywood studios there is out there
- 17:25Josh: Pretty crazy speaking of hollywood studios did you know that there is a film
- 17:27Josh: that was made already and completed about sam altman he has a biopic named
- 17:33Josh: artificial and i had no idea like today i learned that there has not only been
- 17:37Josh: a movie about him but it's already been made filmed produced edited and it is ready to be,
- 17:43Josh: is that the company that made it is not quite ready to reveal it to the world
- 17:47Josh: because I assume it does not show Sam under the greatest light, perhaps.
- 17:52Josh: We saw this happen once before with Zuck and the Social Network movie.
- 17:55Josh: I assume this is kind of generally along those lines. And it appears as if they've hit a roadblock.
- 18:00Josh: Why is there a roadblock, Ejaz? Why is this deal getting stopped?
- 18:03Josh: Why can I not watch this movie?
- 18:04Ejaaz: Well, that little company that produced this film goes by the name of Amazon.
- 18:08Ejaaz: They spent hundreds of millions. Ah, yeah, that one.
- 18:10Ejaaz: They spent hundreds of millions of dollars. You know, you might have heard of
- 18:12Ejaaz: Amazon Prime. They distribute to, you know, millions and millions of people all over the world.
- 18:16Ejaaz: So this was a big investment for them. They hired Andrew Garfield.
- 18:19Ejaaz: They put in a ton of money to make this film.
- 18:22Ejaaz: And then they signed a $50 billion enterprise relationship, cloud computing
- 18:26Ejaaz: specifically with OpenAI, to serve their models through Petrock.
- 18:30Ejaaz: And so they were thinking, hmm, if we release this movie that shows Sam Altman
- 18:34Ejaaz: in a bad light, that might damage our enterprise relationship.
- 18:37Ejaaz: So what we're going to do is we're going to cancel the release of the show,
- 18:40Ejaaz: and we are going to start shopping it out to other name labels,
- 18:44Ejaaz: other producers, one of which was A24. And they said, you know what?
- 18:48Ejaaz: We can't do this because Thrive's on our cap table and Thrive is one of the
- 18:51Ejaaz: biggest investors in open air.
- 18:52Ejaaz: So it's interesting to see the politics over here. Like these AI labs are getting
- 18:56Ejaaz: involved in a very meaningful way with these Hollywood producers and it restricts
- 19:01Ejaaz: what they can actually make.
- 19:02Josh: Okay, and to round out this week, there is a new feature from the Anthropic team named Claude Tag.
- 19:08Josh: Now, Claw Tag is a brand new way of working with the AI in a way that I think
- 19:13Josh: surprises a lot of people. We have this traditional LLM infrastructure,
- 19:17Josh: an interface that you can work with it.
- 19:19Josh: We have this claw, similar to like an open claw operating system.
- 19:22Josh: And this is now a new third way of engaging with AI, where it's built right
- 19:26Josh: into the place that you do your work, into Slack channels.
- 19:30Josh: And what's funny about this is it creates this multiplayer way of engaging with
- 19:33Josh: the AI and actually writing code and accomplishing tasks as a coherent workforce.
- 19:39Josh: A cool thing that I picked up from the launch video was that 65% of all of the
- 19:43Josh: code that Claude teams are producing is actually made through this new tool
- 19:48Josh: that was previously internal and is now made public named Claude Tag.
- 19:51Josh: So this is something that I think a lot of people who are in the workforce are
- 19:54Josh: going to be excited to try.
- 19:56Josh: It's a very novel way of kind of multiplayer tag teaming tasks and goals that
- 20:01Josh: are required through just general day-to-day work in Claude.
- 20:04Josh: And I think it's really fun.
- 20:05Josh: It's like you tag in Claude as if I were to tag in you, Ejaz.
- 20:08Josh: Like, hey, we need to get this agenda done for the show today.
- 20:11Josh: You just tag in Claude instead. And it has all the context. It knows everything
- 20:14Josh: from within the internal company database and is able to actually go off and
- 20:18Josh: complete tasks. It's pretty cool.
- 20:20Ejaaz: Yeah, just to be clear, this isn't a Slack update. This is a new way to work
- 20:24Ejaaz: with Claude code and Claude itself.
- 20:27Ejaaz: What I like most about it is it treats Claude like an actual person.
- 20:30Ejaaz: We go from this LLM chatbot to now a person that you can trust to independently do work.
- 20:37Ejaaz: That stat that you just quoted, the 65%, this is real product people with ideas
- 20:42Ejaaz: of things that they want to build, tagging an LLM, and the LLM gets what they want to build.
- 20:47Ejaaz: And they're like, okay, I'm going to go away and build this POV.
- 20:49Ejaaz: And I'll bring you back the mock up, I'll bring you back the kind of functioning model.
- 20:52Ejaaz: And you let me know if you like this, and then I'll go away and do it again.
- 20:55Ejaaz: So completely hands off, like most of the software engineers that are getting
- 20:58Ejaaz: paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, now don't actually handwrite code anymore.
- 21:02Ejaaz: It's Just very impressive. And I look forward to seeing the best ways to kind
- 21:06Ejaaz: of like use a specific tool. But that brings us to the end of the docket today.
- 21:10Ejaaz: We have one final announcement, which is equally as important as every other
- 21:14Ejaaz: thing that we're talking about on today's episode, which is we have a newsletter.
- 21:17Ejaaz: It goes out to 100,000 of you. And Josh just wrote a banger of an essay that's
- 21:23Ejaaz: going to go out. And we also include the five weekly highlights,
- 21:26Ejaaz: the top news items that you need to hear about every single week that goes out on Friday.
- 21:31Ejaaz: There's also one other final thing, which is
- 21:34Ejaaz: Josh, myself, and producer Luke are in the market for a sponsor.
- 21:39Ejaaz: So far, we've been keeping the lights on ourselves, funding it ourselves.
- 21:42Ejaaz: And we've been trying to figure out another way to kind of like work with brands
- 21:45Ejaaz: and partners that can, you know, kind of have a symbiotic relationship with
- 21:48Ejaaz: us and keep the lights on and produce the content that we have every single week, four times a week.
- 21:54Ejaaz: So if you are out there and you listen to this and you think you can help us,
- 21:56Ejaaz: or if you know of anyone that might be able to help us, please reach out on
- 22:00Ejaaz: our emails or via X. We'd love to hear from you.
- 22:03Josh: Yeah feel free to reach out to us on x we'll leave an email linked in the description
- 22:07Josh: that you can find leave a comment we can reach out to you whatever it may be
- 22:10Josh: um but we are very much in the market and very much appreciate your support
- 22:12Josh: if you have made it all the way through to the end of this video congratulations
- 22:16Josh: you are now fully caught up thank you uh one last update i just want to shout
- 22:19Josh: out the valor atomics guys real quick isaiah taylor he was on the show he was
- 22:22Josh: an early guest the show very bullish on them just earlier today or yesterday
- 22:26Josh: they actually got their nuclear reactor up and running for 24 hours straight and it works
- 22:30Josh: the damn thing works so Congratulations to them. That's crazy.
- 22:33Josh: We were early on this guy. If you were an early day one Limitless supporter,
- 22:36Josh: you knew all about this company over a year ago, probably. And now they're at
- 22:40Josh: the frontier of energy creation. So it's very exciting. It's cool to hear.
- 22:43Josh: Thank you all so much for watching. As always, if you enjoyed,
- 22:46Josh: share it with your friends, give us a five-star rating, all the good things.
- 22:49Josh: And we'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much. See you guys.
- 22:51Ejaaz: Bye.