Latest / Mythmakers / Andy Serkis Audio book of The Lord of the Rings - Our Verdict
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to the MythMakers podcast brought to you by the Oxford Centre for Fantasy.
- 0:13This is the podcast for everybody who loves fantasy, old and new.
- 0:18My name is Julia Golding, I'm a writer but I'm also the director of the Oxford Centre
- 0:23for Fantasy which in particular has a focus on J.R.R. Tolkien and the Inklings as well
- 0:30as other fantasy writers who have come out of Oxford.
- 0:34In today's episode I thought I would tackle the big thing that's recently happened for
- 0:40all of you who love Tolkien which is the new recording unabridged by Andy Circus,
- 0:46the entire reading of the Lord of the Rings.
- 0:49It just come out and is the first time that an unabridged recording has been added to
- 0:55your choices since the Robert English version back in 1990.
- 1:02I also wanted to add into the review of the comparison of the various options you have
- 1:08the much earlier 1981 BBC dramatised version because for many people that is where they
- 1:15begin their listening journey.
- 1:18So taking those various options in order in which they were produced, I'd like to give
- 1:24you a little guide as to what you might find if you choose to go with one of those.
- 1:31Now let's go back to 1981.
- 1:34I actually remember this being made, it was a huge part of my childhood that the BBC had
- 1:40done this fantastic version.
- 1:43It was dramatised in 26 episodes and in those days of course it wasn't on demand, you
- 1:50had to wait with your cassette tape recorder to record them if you wanted to listen again
- 1:55and I have to admit to doing that.
- 1:58The cast was Stella, some of the names many of you will recognise so Ian Holm played Frodo
- 2:08in the BBC version and he returned as Bilbo in the Peter Jackson films.
- 2:15But Gandalf was played by a man who was like a very well-known actor at the time, Michael
- 2:21Horden.
- 2:22I actually knew him as a child because he was the voice of the Paddington cartoons but
- 2:27he also was a very notable film actor.
- 2:30Robert Stevens, he is perhaps also known for being once married to Maggie Smith.
- 2:37He played Aragon and Bill Nye played Sam and there are lots of other very notable people.
- 2:46John L'Emisserie played Bilbo and those of you who have watched the British comedy
- 2:53programme Dad's Army, he was in that cast.
- 2:57So you can see they were really able to attract into the recording studio a really superior
- 3:03team of voice actors.
- 3:06Now, a really nice thing about the BBC version is that it was directed by two women, Jane
- 3:14Morgan and Penny Leicester and they did a really excellent job in choosing their material
- 3:20dividing it up.
- 3:21They brought along Stephen Oliver, whose music I think is definitely amongst the best versions
- 3:28of the songs, extremely singable.
- 3:33They also had little extras at the end of the, some of the episodes where you could have
- 3:38even more songs if you wanted, like I remembered there was an extra set from Treebeard at one
- 3:44point in the two-tows.
- 3:47So they did a really, really excellent job in bringing the poetry of Tolkien into the
- 3:55dramatisation.
- 3:57I think that one thing to point out is they took some cuts like Peter Jackson did, they
- 4:03didn't include Tom Bomberdale and there was sort of, you know, there is a argument that
- 4:10Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring takes a long time to get going and the Tom
- 4:14Bomberdale material isn't really important later on in the plot.
- 4:19So it's an obvious cut if you want to slim down your offering.
- 4:25They also had really good, simple special effects.
- 4:31So when you listen to it, you do feel very, if you lay in bed or in the car or wherever
- 4:37you are, you really feel in the world with sort of wind sounds and the idea of particularly
- 4:46the black riders they have a very ghostly tone.
- 4:50There's a very good smegle as well.
- 4:55I mean, we've all got so used to Andy Circus, but actually the person who takes on smegle
- 5:04in this version, that's Peter Woodthorpe, he, for me until I saw the piece of Jackson
- 5:14films, he was the smegle, the voice of, and he had previously voiced the same character
- 5:22in the Ralph Bakshi animated version.
- 5:26And I believe that the gentleman who played Boramir, Michael Graham Cox also had appeared
- 5:32in that version too as a voice actor.
- 5:35So there's some lovely crossings over between the various versions.
- 5:41So I would say that it was just such an excellent production, really very high class.
- 5:51For me, the voice that I didn't quite warm to, and this perhaps is just a personal taste,
- 5:58is I found Robert Stevens as arrogant as a, he felt older and I happened to sort of
- 6:05already know what Robert Stevens looked like because he'd appeared in some children's
- 6:10dramas at the time and he had played a bad guy in a version of, I think it was the box
- 6:15of delights, the John Maysfield story.
- 6:20And I remember feeling he wasn't quite right.
- 6:24So for me, that was one of the weaker sides of that production.
- 6:29But definitely highly recommended, particularly as I mentioned earlier, for the quality
- 6:36of the songs, which they do really, really well.
- 6:40So moving on, we're heading a bit more into the digital age, but not quite yet.
- 6:47In 1990, an actor called Robert Inglis sat down and recorded an unabridged version of
- 6:59the Lord of the Rings.
- 7:02It was directed by Claudia Howard and the music is a variety of either music sort of noted
- 7:11by Tolkien, something that Robert Inglis had done.
- 7:15Doshoff, his name is Inglis or Ingles, I think I'll go Ingles.
- 7:20He made up himself and also Claudia Howard also added some music too.
- 7:27In the production, I think they re-released it at the same time as the films.
- 7:34It has some very nice musical interludes that signal the end of a book and the beginning
- 7:41of another.
- 7:42They use this same production note in the Martin Shaw version of Silmarillion and then
- 7:52really well chosen, a sense of almost like the tie is leaving.
- 7:59And I think it really adds to that version.
- 8:03What do you get when you listen to Robert Inglis?
- 8:06Well you get a very professorial tone, almost, I kind of tell myself, it's a bit like
- 8:13sitting listening to Tolkien, read it to you and that is a big plus point.
- 8:20He's very good, he doesn't push too far away from a reading voice, it's not to dramatized
- 8:28reading, but he does find a lot of different notes and you're never confused by who's
- 8:34speaking.
- 8:35He does an extremely good job and I think it's very listenable, it definitely has a
- 8:46quality about it which is very relaxing and the perfect audio book in a sense that you
- 8:53can just let it wash through you and wash over you and you go with the story.
- 8:58I think that perhaps he's less good on how to put this because it feels a bit like a
- 9:08period piece, I'm almost surprised to find it was recorded in 1990 because he feels like
- 9:15he could have recorded it in 1950.
- 9:18There is an element of it feeling slightly old fashioned, I think it might be the tone
- 9:23and the feeling of a gentleman of a certain age.
- 9:29What you're getting, as I'm saying, does feel quite appropriate to imagining it being
- 9:33a bit like Tolkien reading to you.
- 9:36Let us move on now to the big new player in the field and that is Andy Circus' version.
- 9:44I think it's really interesting finding Andy Circus, having dedicated what must have
- 9:50been a very large part of his life recently.
- 9:55Maybe it was a lockdown project to recording this and I think that what you get of course
- 10:03is it feels much more familiar to people who have come at Tolkien from the film.
- 10:10The very first thing to say is when he chooses a character voice he very often is channeling
- 10:17what you see from the screen thanks to Peter Jackson.
- 10:21So for example, the choice to make Pippin Scottish, the shower is a very small place and it's
- 10:29quite funny to think that within such a small area there are such wildly different accents
- 10:38which is perfectly fine and I can see that it distinguishes the hobbits from each other
- 10:43but I'm also thinking of, of course, Billy Boyd as he does the voice is fine but just warn
- 10:49you that there is that element of hearing film actors underneath what Andy Circus is doing.
- 10:55The other thing that the other actor who is very clearly an inspiration for a voice is
- 11:01Boramir, totally Sean Bean, very good interpretation of Sean Bean, again the choice of an
- 11:10Northern accent there. So that I think will please lots of people because they will so be
- 11:19clued in they can imagine almost seeing a version of the film in their imagination happening.
- 11:27The other thing about Andy Circus's approach is unlike Robert Engels who as I said had more of a
- 11:33reading voice and doesn't push too far into the drama there is more energy and more performance
- 11:40behind Andy Circus's version. So in terms of listening experience there is peaks and troughs it's
- 11:47actually more, it's more dramatic and it is a performance as opposed to a reading if I can draw
- 11:59that distinction. I have to have some caveats there are a couple of things in it which for me
- 12:10are a problem and they come particularly at the beginning of the fellowship of the ring
- 12:14which is he's not that great at singing the hobbit songs. He does get better I felt as the
- 12:23fellowship of the rings went on but there are some pretty ropey songs either he's not been given
- 12:28a great tune or he's decided they don't sing very well and that was a bit off-putting and the
- 12:36section which I find really difficult and disappointing was Tom Bombardill. He's gone for a very
- 12:43bombastic tone and it has just really jared for me I disliked it intensely if I'm going to
- 12:55listen alongside I would go and listen to that chapter done by Robert Ingalls in future who
- 13:01doesn't send it up as much. It may be that because this character didn't appear in the films there
- 13:07wasn't a sense of who he could be and he comes across it being he doesn't seem to have the gravity or
- 13:15the depth and the earth you know he's the oldest creature ever alive and the Andy Circus version
- 13:26makes him feel really annoying so I don't recommend those chapters but everything else I've
- 13:33thoroughly enjoyed and massive, massive plus point which is why you might go for this version
- 13:41over the others if you're a talking nerd is that when it's said to be an unabridged version it
- 13:47is an unabridged version he does the prefectory material the talking introduction is absolutely
- 13:54fascinating as a scene setter for what you went go on to here and the appendices now that is a
- 14:01really bold choice by the people who produced this audiobook but hooray so now you can actually hear
- 14:07the appendices read as well which is great that's new material and I think is worth definitely
- 14:14buying return of the king if you've already got say the Robert Ingalls version you might want to say
- 14:20pick that one because you've got a whole load of new material at the end and of course he gets to be
- 14:26golem again so that's pretty good isn't it I find the strongest voices for me in what he's done
- 14:33the sweeter voices he's done I really like Frodo and Sam I think they're really good
- 14:41and also his arrogant is great it's a sort of slightly deeper Andy circus voice very attractive
- 14:47it doesn't have the problem I found with the Robert Stevens of being too plummy it's got a very
- 14:54it's not a takeoff of Vigo Mortison at all it if you're looking for a voice actor for whom it's
- 15:00a bit like it sounds a bit like Clive Lewis it's got a very nice tone and you can think yeah
- 15:06this is one of the heroes so thank you very much audible for giving us yet more hours of talking to
- 15:13enjoy if I was going to finish with sort of like my star review I think for performance as in drama
- 15:23you would have to struggle to beat the BBC version that's definitely five stars
- 15:28Robert Ingalls on performance in drama is more of a you know a three and Andy circus is another
- 15:38five star for a single voice actor in terms of listenability they all score really highly they're all
- 15:46five stars but if I was going to give you a sort of which one do I buy I'd say if you've got a
- 15:53family listening go for the BBC version if you are personally listening on your own the choice
- 16:00between the Andy circus and the Robert Ingalls version is do you want to be read to or do you want
- 16:05to be performed at and that's where I would you know decide which one I'm going for and of course
- 16:12if you if you're like it get get all of them which is what I've done and depending how I feel I choose
- 16:18the one I want to so thank you very much for listening and that's my view on the audio versions
- 16:26but before we leave I always in every podcast try and choose where in the world is the best place to go
- 16:35and for this episode I thought we'd choose where in the fancy world is the best place to be ill
- 16:40because listening to the Lord of the Rings again reminded me just how often particularly Frodo
- 16:48gets ill or gets wounded and how important healing and medicine is now obviously you might say the
- 16:55best place to go in Tolkien's world for healing would be the houses of healing in Ministerus
- 17:03that's or or of course Rivendell where you've got Elrond as the sort of master healer
- 17:10but I was also thinking outside of Tolkien's world I'm very fond of a fantasy series that starts
- 17:19with a book called War Prize by Elizabeth Fawn and what I like about that series is that the
- 17:28character arc of the main character is that she brings it's not that magic or anything like that
- 17:34she brings conventional medicine to the invaders who come to her country she's handed over as a
- 17:43war prize and her role is to teach these people the importance of healing and I really enjoy
- 17:50that's the dilemma it's an unusual dilemma to have in a fancy book that her job is to persuade them
- 17:55that you know you don't just kill somebody when they get injured they give them the mercy stroke
- 18:00because you know broken leg meant they'd never be able to be a warrior again she is turning around
- 18:05their traditions and their understandings about strength weakness and what what is really strong
- 18:13isn't necessary muscles it's intelligence and caring and all those kind of things so in a sense I would
- 18:21say the best place for healing might be in Elizabeth Fawn's world prize just to ring the changes
- 18:28not always choosing Tolkien you see there of course going to see as Lewis it's very useful to have
- 18:33Lucy's cordial on hand because that seems a very quick pick me up pretty much almost bringing
- 18:39back from the dead so not quite but almost so that's also a little you know if you're going to
- 18:46travel have Lucy's cordial with you that would help so that's the answer to wherein the world
- 18:53I hope that you've also had a chance to listen to our podcast that we did with the live stream about
- 18:59the forthcoming Amazon Prime series set in Tolkien's second age where I was joined by Paula Calamaris
- 19:07writer and Ty Trusdale filmmaker if you haven't caught up with that yet it's available on YouTube
- 19:15for Facebook and also as a podcast so please do check that out and let us know what you think
- 19:22so until next time thank you very much for joining us here at MythMakers goodbye