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EYL #260 Ray Lewis on Lack of Black Sports Owners, Athlete Money Problems, & Learning from Billionaires · Earn Your Leisure

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Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security.
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Speaker 3: Stop with endorsements. That's a check and if somebody's able
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Speaker 3: to write you that check, well then I don't want
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Speaker 3: the check. I'll give you example. I signed my third contract.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the room and the owner walks in
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Speaker 3: and he says, listen, we're gonna make him the.
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Speaker 2: Highest paid player in the game.
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Speaker 3: So they give me fifty million dollars, right, they give
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Speaker 3: me twenty up front, and my agent looked at me
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Speaker 3: and I got up and walked out of the room,
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Speaker 3: and he was like, what's wrong. Why are you walking
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Speaker 3: out of the room. I said, because it finally cleared.
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Speaker 3: Player money no longer impresses me. I want to know
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Speaker 3: what he does because if he can pay me this much,
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Speaker 3: then I need to learn that show.
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Speaker 2: Someone makes some noise, super Baul, we got head, the
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Speaker 2: sun is out.
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Speaker 4: My mic work big though, Make some noise for the
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Speaker 4: legend Ray Lewis, Ladies and gentlemen, the best ever in
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Speaker 4: this position, one of the best.
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Speaker 5: Ever played the game for more importantly, a great man,
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Speaker 5: a great humanitarian.
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Speaker 2: Uh so, thank you for doing his brother pres I.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate what you guys are doing, absolutely life changing messages
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Speaker 3: and it's just beautiful to knowing.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely so.
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Speaker 6: I think you know obviously people know the football career
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Speaker 6: enough from the athletic side, obviously Hall of Fame, one
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Speaker 6: of the best ever to do it. But you're doing
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Speaker 6: a lot of stuff on the business side, So I
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Speaker 6: kind of want to start there.
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Speaker 2: Let's go back to nineteen ninety six and we're getting drafted.
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Speaker 6: And the gentleman by the name of Ozlemus who played
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Speaker 6: they played an introviraal obviously.
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Speaker 2: Bringing it to the team, but also mentally do when
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Speaker 2: gods do off the field.
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Speaker 3: So talking about the role of the impact that Oz
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Speaker 3: had on your life, Yeah, it.
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Speaker 7: Was interesting because Ozzy first drafted me to Baltimore. I'm
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Speaker 7: sitting in there in the locker and waiting on his
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Speaker 7: phone call and he calls and says, we're going to
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Speaker 7: draft you to Baltimore.
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Speaker 3: And I says, I said, Baltimore doesn't have a team,
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Speaker 3: Like how are you drafting.
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Speaker 2: Me to Baltimore?
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Speaker 3: You know? And he's like, nah, you know, we coming
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Speaker 3: from Cleveland. And I'm like, what all of the teams
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Speaker 3: I could have been drafted to? I go to freaking Baltimore.
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Speaker 3: And from the first day, man when he told me
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Speaker 3: I was coming in, what he invested into me on
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Speaker 3: the field was one thing, but the investment that he
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Speaker 3: gave me off the field was everything. And there was
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Speaker 3: everything about the front office and understanding how the entire
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Speaker 3: machine actually runs, and at a very young age, I
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Speaker 3: wanted to know that because I just didn't want to
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Speaker 3: be a player on the field. I wanted to be
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Speaker 3: a player off the field as well. And so Ozzi
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Speaker 3: still to this day, he just called me a week ago.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about some stuff. So we had that relationship
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Speaker 3: since I was nineteen years old and now I'm forty
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Speaker 3: seven years old, that same relationship with ozn' So I.
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Speaker 2: Want to talk about some financial stuff.
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Speaker 5: If we were talking over there and you were saying,
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Speaker 5: how a lot of guys, you know, obviously make a
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Speaker 5: lot of you know, poor decisions when it comes to finances.
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Speaker 5: What you know, talking about taxes and what looks like
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Speaker 5: a forty million dollar contract really isn't a forty million
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Speaker 5: dollar contract.
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Speaker 2: You can you kind of break that down a little bit. Yeah, Look,
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Speaker 2: it's really simple.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of us look at athletes contracts
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Speaker 3: and the first thing you look at is the number, right,
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Speaker 3: But the one thing you don't look at is how
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Speaker 3: much of that number is gone before you even signed
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Speaker 3: the check. Right, that number does not really exist. Right,
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Speaker 3: So you said, oh my gosh, this guy made one
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Speaker 3: hundredllion dollars, absolutely not right, forty percent is coming to
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Speaker 3: Uncle Sam or whoever that is that you're paying your
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Speaker 3: money to immediately. And so what I started to do,
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Speaker 3: probably in year eight or nine is really started to
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Speaker 3: understand why I was not counting my own money.
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Speaker 2: Right. We hire people to count our money for us.
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Speaker 3: We hire people to get to give us monthly updates
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Speaker 3: right on, oh well you spent this this mnch.
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't need you to tell me that.
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Speaker 3: If I see my statements myself, if I know what
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Speaker 3: every plenty of my money is going, then yeah, I
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Speaker 3: can do that myself. And so interesting enough, when I
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Speaker 3: got done planning a partner with a guy recently by
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Speaker 3: the mema Julio Gonzales, probably one of the number one
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Speaker 3: tax guys in the world, and for him to take
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Speaker 3: me through the entire tax bracket and how they don't
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Speaker 3: pay taxes. You know, you think about rich, Being rich
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Speaker 3: is great because you can buy a lot of things.
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Speaker 2: Being wealthy.
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Speaker 3: You can pass that to the generation at the generation
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Speaker 3: at the generation. But you have to know it's not
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Speaker 3: about making money. It's how do you keep money. That's
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Speaker 3: the number one rule of life, right, I can people
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Speaker 3: can pay you see it all the time.
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Speaker 2: People pay athletes all the time, pay actors all the time.
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Speaker 3: You never get an opportunity to sit in the rooms
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Speaker 3: where they're talking about ownership or partnership. Why because the
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Speaker 3: most important thing is a relationship. And they don't have
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Speaker 3: a relationships with athletes. They have a relationships with a number.
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Speaker 3: A number is fifty two, and number is eighty, a
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Speaker 3: number is thirty two, A numbers, whatever your number is,
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Speaker 3: that's what they relate to.
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Speaker 2: Why because that's what makes their money. Right.
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Speaker 3: But one of the biggest disconnects that all players must understand.
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Speaker 3: I stopped taking endorsements two thousand and ten, twenty ten.
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Speaker 3: Why I bought my name back. Why because I don't
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Speaker 3: need endorsements right like I want ownership right. I want
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Speaker 3: partnership right. Because partnership then dictates and shows me what
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Speaker 3: a relationship is.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: Every hand that I've shook in my professional career, that
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Speaker 3: hand remembered why I shook their hand, And it was
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Speaker 3: not because they wrote me a check. It's because I
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Speaker 3: told them I'll be seeing them again on the other
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Speaker 3: side of football.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's the exciting part for me.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So when did that light bulb click for somebody
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Speaker 5: educating you on.
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Speaker 3: That Yeah, and you have to search for that education.
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Speaker 3: So one of the greatest educators ever. And regardless of
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Speaker 3: what anybody thinks, if you don't have a relationship with God,
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Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to control.
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Speaker 2: Your life, right.
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Speaker 3: Like, you have to have someone who's in the forefront
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Speaker 3: of your life that you actually go to.
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Speaker 2: So God has been in my life my entire life.
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Speaker 3: My mom's a pastor and my dad was a pastor
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Speaker 3: before he passed last year. So I've always been raised
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Speaker 3: from that core. But that's the foundation of who you are.
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Speaker 3: So when you start to look for information and you
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Speaker 3: start to pray for God to surround you around the
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Speaker 3: right people. I had the wrong people around me when
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Speaker 3: I was in my twenties, but by the time I
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Speaker 3: got in my mid thirties, God was surrounding me around
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Speaker 3: people that can educate me right.
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Speaker 2: And once I started to grab that education, that's food. Right.
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Speaker 3: He says that you would know my people the fruit
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Speaker 3: that they bear. So I wanted to know the fruit
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Speaker 3: that the people was around me. What fruit are you, Barren?
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Speaker 3: Don't tell me. You can show me how to make money.
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Speaker 3: I can make money myself, but show me how I
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Speaker 3: can affect people. Right, show me how I can dictate
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Speaker 3: my next part of my legacy.
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Speaker 2: Making tackles is great. Right.
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Speaker 3: Playing in the National Football League was one of the
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Speaker 3: most amazing things ever. Is why because they brought my
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Speaker 3: mother out of the good right. And so that's where
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Speaker 3: I think guys have to take a deeper dive if
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Speaker 3: you really want to change your life, because if you
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Speaker 3: really believe money is gonna do it, it won't right.
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Speaker 3: It'll give you ups and downs. The devil has the
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Speaker 3: same power. God has the only power he doesn't have.
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Speaker 3: He can't save your life, but he can give you
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Speaker 3: everything that this world offers. And most of it is fast,
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Speaker 3: most of it is shining, and most of it spins.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: God gives you things that does the opposite, and all
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Speaker 3: lords people.
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Speaker 6: Say, hey, man, so you told about in your twenties
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Speaker 6: and you know being here this week's super Bowl week.
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Speaker 6: It's been kind of a common theme amongst some of
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Speaker 6: the players is that yet early on in their career,
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Speaker 6: they didn't have the people around them. They didn't have
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Speaker 6: the education, and a lot of it is because they
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Speaker 6: didn't care to know, because they were taking recommendations from people.
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Speaker 2: It's the setup. It's what happens.
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Speaker 3: And when you're seventeen years old, When you're seventeen years old,
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Speaker 3: this agent walks up to you. He says, don't mention
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Speaker 3: my name again, but I want to be your agent.
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Speaker 3: And you, because you're broke and you have absolutely nothing,
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Speaker 3: you say, wow, okay, I'll stay in touch with you.
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Speaker 2: And while you stand in touch.
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Speaker 3: With him, he then follows your career and wait till
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Speaker 3: you get into your junior senior year, my junior year,
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 2: And then there was there was times.
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Speaker 3: Right, there's an nil deal now out there, So who
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Speaker 3: cares about what I tell now?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 6: But statue a limitation they have inspired expressed me.
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Speaker 3: But when you take my you take what I was
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Speaker 3: doing in nineteen ninety four, Bro, nineteen ninety four was
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Speaker 3: what they're letting kids do now.
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Speaker 2: I was saying, why can't you be paid? Right?
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Speaker 3: That's you cannot tell me if somebody wants to help
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Speaker 3: me out because of what I do, why can't you
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Speaker 3: allow that? So when that started to being allowed in
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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four, man, listen, bro bags bags being dropped off,
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Speaker 3: Bro like double bag boy, ruffle bags, Like, you're not
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Speaker 3: talking to me unless I have a bag drop off.
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Speaker 3: So then, but it's a system, right because a friend
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Speaker 3: forget the friend. The friend says, hey, ray, I got
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Speaker 3: this person. I got this person, I got a lawyer,
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Speaker 3: I got an agent, I got bro And you're like,
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Speaker 3: before you know it, you don't trust it. Somebody that
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Speaker 3: you have not built a relationship with and you just
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Speaker 3: give them your whole check, I mean you right over
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Speaker 3: then higher check and you've never sat with them or
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Speaker 3: have dinner with them, and then in your life. And
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Speaker 3: that's the system of how our kids are taught on
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Speaker 3: how to go into the National Football League, the NBA,
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Speaker 3: all these different things and trust people that have not
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Speaker 3: put no swimpt equity into who we are. Right, it's
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Speaker 3: criminal right to a certain person to a certain point.
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Speaker 3: And so I wanted to change that, which I did.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 5: So you mentioned in a NIL. How do you feel
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Speaker 5: about NIL?
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Speaker 2: I think it's the nil deal was supposed to be different? Right?
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Speaker 3: What does that mean? These major colleges have endowment funds? Right?
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Speaker 3: The universe of Miament has an endowment fund almost forty
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Speaker 3: billion dollars or more. Those kids are supposed to eat
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Speaker 3: from that fund. They're not supposed to eat from outside. Now,
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Speaker 3: once you let people from outside come in, then that's
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Speaker 3: where the division of the locker room starts. Why because
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Speaker 3: you pay a quarterback a million dollars, but you paid
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Speaker 3: the lineman nothing, but the quarterback came through the ball
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Speaker 3: u less than linement blocking. Right, So all of the
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Speaker 3: the way it was supposed to be, the distribitted. When
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Speaker 3: I was arguing the issue, I was saying, listen, if
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Speaker 3: my number fifty two makes a certain dollar amount, then
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Speaker 3: I should eat from that.
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Speaker 2: Why should I eat from my money from my name
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Speaker 2: that I make?
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Speaker 3: You?
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Speaker 2: You cannot make money off my name. Right.
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Speaker 3: There's no Fortune five hundred company in America that you
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Speaker 3: can use their brand. You cannot use the NFL logo
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Speaker 3: by yourself. You wear a shirt and you advertise that
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Speaker 3: they gonna want a percentage of that, Well, then my
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Speaker 3: name should represent the same thing, and every athlete should
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Speaker 3: represent that exact same thing, which it doesn't, right because
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Speaker 3: the NFLPA we're up under this this brand, right, I
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Speaker 3: made over Jesus my jersey from two thousand and five
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Speaker 3: to two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 2: Bro, listen, hundreds of millions of dollars. I have it,
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Speaker 2: you have.
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Speaker 3: It, and you and think about a two hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty dollars Jersey and I got a five.
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Speaker 2: Thousand dollars check.
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Speaker 3: Sum's off with that math. Sum's off of that math.
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Speaker 3: But it's the same thing with the nil dealing.
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Speaker 2: Colleges. Pay the kids from where they make the money.
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Speaker 3: Don't let outside endorsers come in once again, the endorsement model,
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Speaker 3: because that takes the that's that takes the attention off
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Speaker 3: of them. The endorsement model is not the way to go, man,
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Speaker 3: And I'm telling you it's gonna it's gonna continue to
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Speaker 3: divide our children, just like the portal. The portal is cool,
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Speaker 3: but the portal takes the leash off what greatness really is.
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Speaker 2: Man's greatness hurts.
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Speaker 3: That's a lot of down days that you got to
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Speaker 3: go through to find out what greatness is.
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Speaker 2: And now kids are in the.
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Speaker 3: Portal and they can run away from that so quickly
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Speaker 3: they disagree with the coach. I'm transferring this year. You know,
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Speaker 3: I got four sons, I got four kings, I got
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Speaker 3: two queens, and I went through that whole battle. And
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there saying, son earn a job. I was
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Speaker 3: never given a job. I had to take a job,
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Speaker 3: you know, and so a lot of these things that
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Speaker 3: they're creating, I think it's taking the issue off what
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Speaker 3: the real issue is, Like, our kids should be paid,
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Speaker 3: but they should be compensated from where the money sits,
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Speaker 3: and that's in this endowment funds.
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Speaker 2: That's an absolute fact. Man. I've not even thought about that,
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Speaker 2: the endowments of the schools.
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Speaker 6: But you said endorsements aren't the way, and so it
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Speaker 6: makes me wonder at that point, you're getting a salary
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Speaker 6: from the NFL, but you're not doing endorsements. We all,
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Speaker 6: you know, we preach having one income. It's too close
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Speaker 6: to none. What other type of alternatives that you seek
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Speaker 6: to find a way to make money off the field?
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Speaker 2: Partnerships? Okay, partnerships?
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Speaker 3: Right, everybody wants to shake your hand and they want
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Speaker 3: they want to make you the greatest thing ever. Right,
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, come do this, come speak here, come
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Speaker 3: do that.
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Speaker 2: I will if I own part of that.
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Speaker 3: Because of my own part of that, then I got
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Speaker 3: ownership in that. And if I got ownership and that,
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Speaker 3: then I speak about it a little more boldly, right,
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Speaker 3: little more fast. I have a little more energy of
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Speaker 3: getting up every morning to come do what you want
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Speaker 3: me to do. No matter how much you own, right,
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Speaker 3: think I own it one hundred percent of nothing, that's nothing.
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Speaker 3: But if you got your hands and enough things that
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Speaker 3: I got my hands in, man, I got percentage of this.
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Speaker 2: I got.
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Speaker 3: Twenty eight thirty thirty plus companies man that my hands
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Speaker 3: is in that I own or partner, which means I
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Speaker 3: have a relationship with them. If I can teach my
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Speaker 3: kids stop with endorsements. That's a check. And if somebody's
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Speaker 3: able to write you that check, well then I don't
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Speaker 3: want to check.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I signed my third contract.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the room and the owner walks in
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Speaker 3: and he says, listen, we're gonna make him the highest
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Speaker 3: paid player in the game. So they give me fifty
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Speaker 3: million dollars, right, they give me twenty up front, and
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Speaker 3: my agent looked at me, and I got up and
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Speaker 3: walked out of the room, and he was like, what's wrong.
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Speaker 2: Why are you walking out of the room.
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Speaker 3: I said, because it finally cleared. Player money no longer
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Speaker 3: impresses me. I want to know what he does because
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Speaker 3: if he can pay me this much, then I.
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Speaker 2: Need to learn that business. Right.
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Speaker 3: So athletes think about this. Athletes are never introduced to
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Speaker 3: the owner concept until you make enough money because they
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Speaker 3: tell you I'll put you in the next slot.
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Speaker 2: Right, every athlete is slotted.
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Speaker 3: So whether you think an agent is relevant or not,
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Speaker 3: every athlete the number is already marked. So when you
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Speaker 3: come to that number, you're like, I want a few
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Speaker 3: more million, I want a few hundred thousand more maybe,
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Speaker 3: but you're slotted. So they always make us think about
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Speaker 3: the player. And then I wanted to know what an
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Speaker 3: owner things like. So then I started to sitting myself
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Speaker 3: around owners and I started to say, why that's a
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Speaker 3: different conversation than I have in the locker room full
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Speaker 3: of players. They don't even think about ownership. They don't
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Speaker 3: even think about owning their IP at all. The only
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Speaker 3: thing they think about is the next check. When you
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Speaker 3: become a boss, you don't think about your next check.
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Speaker 5: You right, the checks. That's the difference. Absolutely, that's the ball.
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Speaker 5: So ownership. Staying on the ownership theme the NFL, I
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Speaker 5: think it's like mayde sixty five percent of black players
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Speaker 5: make up the NFL, so seventy three seventy three, Okay,
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Speaker 5: no black ownership. So there's the Rooney rule to try to,
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Speaker 5: you know, have more black head coaches, which a lot
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Speaker 5: of people think that that's flawed, but at least they
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Speaker 5: have something in place. What are your thoughts on having
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Speaker 5: the majority of the league be black players, have no
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Speaker 5: black ownership, and how can we get it to the
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Speaker 5: point where there is representation in the owner's box.
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Speaker 3: We own and we control sports, right, Blacks dominate that
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Speaker 3: from an NFL level, But you're not changing that unless
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Speaker 3: you're sitting in the ownership rooms. So we can argue
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Speaker 3: all we want to about not having black coaches, but
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Speaker 3: until we get a black owner in that office or two,
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Speaker 3: then that ain't changing.
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Speaker 2: No matter what rule you want to talk about.
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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying, like, we only look for
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Speaker 3: the check, We only look for the position that's given.
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Speaker 3: In today's time, it's time for us to take that.
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Speaker 3: That's what partnerships and ownership is, right. My goal is simple.
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Speaker 3: My goal has never changed. I'm forty seven years old.
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Speaker 3: to make a check. The attraction is to get out
23:28
Speaker 3: the hood. The attraction has never been how do you
23:33
Speaker 3: become owner? Nobody teaches that, and let's just sit in
23:39
Speaker 3: that room to listen what owners are discussing. So luckily
23:44
Speaker 3: in my career I was able to start sitting in
23:47
Speaker 3: those rooms. Definitely, Yeah, to sit there and listen what
23:52
Speaker 3: they're talking about. And I said, and I started to
23:55
Speaker 3: say it. I said, man. They was like, oh my gosh,
23:57
Speaker 3: this much player signed for this much money. I said,
23:59
Speaker 3: that does not impress me. Do you know the person
24:02
Speaker 3: who's writing a check, That's what I'm chasing. And so
24:07
Speaker 3: until that dynamic starts to really change and we have
24:12
Speaker 3: enough of us who understands our true power is what
24:15
Speaker 3: we can do together. But the individual, individual check is written,
24:19
Speaker 3: and then so this person gonna I gotta take my money.
24:21
Speaker 2: I gotta take my money. I gotta take my money.
24:23
Speaker 2: I gotta take my money.
24:24
Speaker 3: And it's great, you can take your money, but the
24:26
Speaker 3: generations after that there's still the same model. I just
24:31
Speaker 3: think the model can only change if we're sitting in
24:35
Speaker 3: those owners' meetings.
24:36
Speaker 2: Hees what I'm saying. There's a lot of investment.
24:40
Speaker 3: You asked me about coaching, right, There's a lot of
24:42
Speaker 3: investment that goes into coaching.
24:44
Speaker 2: Right.
24:44
Speaker 3: There's a lot of investing to go from coaches to
24:46
Speaker 3: the gms, right, gms to the owner. Those are steps
24:51
Speaker 3: and you have to be invested to do that. But
24:53
Speaker 3: you also have to have the education to understand all
24:58
Speaker 3: of the aspects of the game and not just playing
25:01
Speaker 3: the game.
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Speaker 2: Right.
25:02
Speaker 3: When you get in the front office, You're not only
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Speaker 3: just counting people checks, right, You're talking about everything that
25:09
Speaker 3: walks in that building.
25:11
Speaker 2: Right, tomorrow's game. The only thing we see is a game.
25:16
Speaker 3: Man, that's a zillion dollar business, right, with intricate parts
25:23
Speaker 3: that everybody has to be in control of. And so
25:26
Speaker 3: that's why I'm telling you, like, until you start to
25:29
Speaker 3: sit down and study that world, it's and that's one vertical.
25:34
Speaker 3: Go to the MLB, go to the NBA, NHL, same model.
25:40
Speaker 3: A bunch of owners got together, put a pool together,
25:43
Speaker 3: Let's make this money, let's build this and that's what
25:46
Speaker 3: they do, right. So we have the ability, but because
25:51
Speaker 3: of the checks being so current, it never crosses.
25:56
Speaker 2: Our mind to become owner. We're okay with being a player. Right.
26:01
Speaker 2: So I started to make a transition halfway through my career.
26:05
Speaker 5: So when you were fortunate enough to be in those owners' meetings,
26:08
Speaker 5: what's some of the things that you learn from just
26:10
Speaker 5: sitting and listening to the conversations.
26:13
Speaker 3: Man, nothing matters to them but what each one of
26:15
Speaker 3: them think seriously like and that's what I respect about
26:20
Speaker 3: that needing. It's like, that's why I go back to
26:23
Speaker 3: talking about partnership. Partnerships in life it's only based off
26:27
Speaker 3: one thing.
26:28
Speaker 2: Relationships. That's it.
26:31
Speaker 3: Bro who you do, partner, who you partner with, That's
26:33
Speaker 3: a relationship. And that's what I respect so much about
26:38
Speaker 3: the relationships that they have in that circle of power
26:44
Speaker 3: that they have.
26:45
Speaker 2: That's why they signed deals together. That's why they broke
26:50
Speaker 2: the TV deals together.
26:51
Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's a genius concept, right, but
26:56
Speaker 3: how many of us will really come together and break
26:59
Speaker 3: that concept.
26:59
Speaker 5: You said something that was very insightful. You said that
27:02
Speaker 5: they only care about what each other think.
27:04
Speaker 2: That's it that you don't.
27:08
Speaker 3: You don't care about what somebody else show does, you
27:11
Speaker 3: work your show, you call your guy.
27:13
Speaker 2: Or you don't care about just what yourself thinks. You
27:16
Speaker 2: gotta give mice you what The overall theme is, we
27:22
Speaker 2: have a machine.
27:23
Speaker 3: The machine must run, right, players careers three years, three
27:30
Speaker 3: and a half years, and the next one come in,
27:32
Speaker 3: and the next one come in, and the next one
27:34
Speaker 3: come in. It's a revolving it. In all the sports,
27:37
Speaker 3: all the sports has ran exactly like this. That's why
27:41
Speaker 3: the next thing, the next only the most important person
27:45
Speaker 3: in an athlete's life in the owner's perspective, is the
27:49
Speaker 3: next one.
27:51
Speaker 5: That's crazy that's that's on the way they work.
27:54
Speaker 2: That nobody's bigger than the progress. It's only it's the
27:57
Speaker 2: only way that works. Bro, There's nobody bigger than the
28:00
Speaker 2: bigger than the machine.
28:01
Speaker 6: You reference the fact that I asked you about coaching,
28:04
Speaker 6: but the answer I got, I think we should elaborate
28:06
Speaker 6: on there. With the power of impact, and it's something
28:08
Speaker 6: that I had to experience working in education and realize
28:11
Speaker 6: I can affect the school, but I could affect the
28:15
Speaker 6: world doing something different. Talk about why you haven't chosen
28:18
Speaker 6: the coach because of.
28:19
Speaker 2: The power of impact.
28:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the coaching side, it's attractive, right, because
28:24
Speaker 3: I've been into my entire life. I've been playing, I've
28:27
Speaker 3: been coaching, I've been mentored, I've been.
28:29
Speaker 2: Doing a lot of those things.
28:31
Speaker 3: But with the impact that I'm trying to make, I
28:36
Speaker 3: just want to hear the Lord when I finally go home,
28:38
Speaker 3: say well done, my good and faithful certain I don't
28:42
Speaker 3: think that's just going to come from me being a
28:44
Speaker 3: great football player. I think that's going to come from
28:48
Speaker 3: me making an impact on people and being alike amongst.
28:53
Speaker 2: People to show them the way. God says.
28:56
Speaker 3: Many a call, but few are chosen sending the question
28:59
Speaker 3: I got this is how do you become a part
29:01
Speaker 3: of the few?
29:03
Speaker 2: Right? That's that's a real question, right.
29:06
Speaker 3: And So coaching is great, and I'm forty seven, so
29:08
Speaker 3: maybe I'll coach at fifty five. But with what I'm
29:11
Speaker 3: doing with each one of my companies, one of my
29:13
Speaker 3: ventures being fifty two Ventures Prosperity Reimagined, is how do
29:17
Speaker 3: we go into these communities and how do we change
29:19
Speaker 3: the look of those communities. All this money that they
29:22
Speaker 3: keep saying, we're giving this much money to black communities,
29:25
Speaker 3: I have not seen one black.
29:27
Speaker 2: Community change so fact, and I mean real change, right.
29:32
Speaker 3: So that for me, I've sat down studied them twenty
29:36
Speaker 3: plus years. I've been in the hoods, I've been in
29:38
Speaker 3: the prisons. I'm walking around, I'm trying to figure it out.
29:42
Speaker 3: And every time I see Martin Luther King Street, I'm saying,
29:44
Speaker 3: why is Martin Luther King Street in the most dysfunctional
29:47
Speaker 3: place in the city.
29:50
Speaker 2: That has to change.
29:51
Speaker 3: So that's why I think my focus and what I'm
29:54
Speaker 3: focusing on now is much bigger. So if I want
29:57
Speaker 3: to come back to coach, and I will, I just
29:59
Speaker 3: don't think right now is the time.
30:01
Speaker 5: Yeah, so we always hear hard stories of athletes getting
30:04
Speaker 5: taken advantage of from financial advisors, from accountants, from lawyers.
30:08
Speaker 5: Every how, What is the process to actually be able
30:12
Speaker 5: to trust somebody and what should you never do to
30:17
Speaker 5: kind of safeguard yourself from being taken advantage of?
30:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you should always have three layers, right,
30:24
Speaker 3: you share your spiritual foundation, your family foundation, and then
30:28
Speaker 3: your business foundation. And all three of those layers, we
30:31
Speaker 3: must have somebody at every level right to spiritually guide you. Family,
30:35
Speaker 3: somebody you trust, and then business is somebody who has
30:38
Speaker 3: to answer to your family and your spiritual guidance, right,
30:42
Speaker 3: because once they have to answer to them. The problem
30:44
Speaker 3: is we do an opposite, right. Our talent opens the door.
30:48
Speaker 3: We go in and we sign a check. As soon
30:50
Speaker 3: as we sign the check, the first thing we do
30:51
Speaker 3: is sign it over to an agent that we just
30:53
Speaker 3: met two weeks ago, who then passes to his financial team,
30:58
Speaker 3: and then they start deshriving your money and you never
31:00
Speaker 3: see your money ever again.
31:03
Speaker 2: So we have to check. But it's the model.
31:08
Speaker 3: It's the model, right, and every almost every person goes
31:12
Speaker 3: down that same model. If you don't change that model,
31:16
Speaker 3: about one of the things I started doing with my
31:19
Speaker 3: financial visor.
31:20
Speaker 2: Right, I said, every penny, every penny.
31:25
Speaker 3: That leaves or comes into my account, I should be
31:28
Speaker 3: alerted every penny.
31:31
Speaker 2: Right, And what does that mean? I should have the
31:32
Speaker 2: same access you have.
31:34
Speaker 3: You should not have to call me in two weeks
31:36
Speaker 3: to report on my money. No, I should be reporting
31:39
Speaker 3: to you what I want to do with my money.
31:41
Speaker 3: But that's taking ownership, right. It's back the ownership, and
31:44
Speaker 3: it's back the partnership. I have a great partnership with
31:47
Speaker 3: my financial teams, and I have ownership of all of
31:50
Speaker 3: my entire world. And that's why I like to see it.
31:53
Speaker 3: I got spiritual guidance, I got family guidance with my
31:55
Speaker 3: mom and what she does. And then I have business
31:58
Speaker 3: teams that actually over see each other and making sure
32:02
Speaker 3: that I am not being hustled, which I have.
32:04
Speaker 2: I've been down that road, bro millions of dollars.
32:06
Speaker 3: Come on, man, why do you want to talk about it? Bruh,
32:08
Speaker 3: talk about it. I'm still looking for the people. Know, easy,
32:13
Speaker 3: easy statute of limitations may not have this fire. No,
32:18
Speaker 3: it's crazy because you trust people, maam, and you trust
32:21
Speaker 3: people and you trust them to do what's best for you.
32:26
Speaker 3: And then you realize that that person equally yoked, that
32:32
Speaker 3: person has no guide in their life, and all the
32:35
Speaker 3: thing you trust is well, I've been in financial for
32:38
Speaker 3: fifteen years, twenty years, okay, and now that I'm on
32:42
Speaker 3: this side of life, I'm able to say and right, Nah,
32:45
Speaker 3: you got to ask those questions. The easiest thing to
32:49
Speaker 3: do is give somebody a check. The hardest thing to
32:51
Speaker 3: do is ask questions that you don't know that they
32:54
Speaker 3: don't know.
32:54
Speaker 2: How to tell you. It's the hardest thing to do.
32:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's talk about the work, because I can hear
32:59
Speaker 6: the passion in you. I could imagine you coming into
33:01
Speaker 6: a community. There's going to be a presence that you feel.
33:04
Speaker 6: So let's talk about fifty two Foundations and the work
33:07
Speaker 6: that y'all are doing, because it's incredible, right, giving economic
33:10
Speaker 6: consistence to the youth. Talk about the obviously the goal
33:14
Speaker 6: of it, the start of it, and how everything is
33:16
Speaker 6: being functioned inside of it. Yeah, one of them.
33:19
Speaker 3: One of my other companies started in twenty fifteen in
33:23
Speaker 3: Baltimore after the unrest of Freddie Gray, right, and at
33:28
Speaker 3: that time, I started a solar company at the time,
33:31
Speaker 3: and why because I started walking the streets, and the
33:33
Speaker 3: streets of Baltimore was burning and everybody was just frustrated.
33:37
Speaker 3: And you know, Baltimore, it is beautiful, but it has
33:41
Speaker 3: a bad black eye content to it. And so my
33:44
Speaker 3: company started in twenty fifteen, and now, man Jesus, I
33:48
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33:50
Speaker 3: graduation right to where now we took hundreds of game
33:54
Speaker 3: members off the streets and we've given them options.
33:57
Speaker 2: Right, We've given them an alternative. They're not going to work.
34:00
Speaker 3: For a four or five dollars job, but if you
34:03
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34:05
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34:09
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34:12
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34:16
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34:19
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34:22
Speaker 3: he gave up drug life, and you save my son's life.
34:26
Speaker 2: It's the greatest reward you'll ever get in business.
34:29
Speaker 3: And so that's why with powerful the two foundation is
34:33
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34:38
Speaker 3: that maybe I've made a mistake but I can pick
34:41
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34:43
Speaker 2: And that's what we do. Right.
34:44
Speaker 3: So whether it's second and third chance offenders, whoever that
34:46
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34:48
Speaker 3: third chances, we give you fourth chances, we give you
34:51
Speaker 3: fifth chances. Right, we have an eighty five percent placement rate.
34:54
Speaker 3: The moment you leave our school, you get hired immediately.
34:58
Speaker 2: Right. If we don't start there, right.
35:00
Speaker 3: Another one of my partners we own, We own these
35:03
Speaker 3: waste managements in Baltimore. Another huge project from an academy
35:09
Speaker 3: standpoint is in Genevo, Ohio called Spire Institute. Same concept
35:15
Speaker 3: as IMG, but what we're doing inside of that academy
35:18
Speaker 3: is we're teaching children how to actually function in a
35:22
Speaker 3: very dysfunctioned culture.
35:24
Speaker 2: How do you do that? Right?
35:26
Speaker 3: That's why man the kem Bae Mtumbo finally partners. So
35:29
Speaker 3: now we have a relationship with Africa, with NBA Africa
35:32
Speaker 3: coming through Spire right with Towagas.
35:35
Speaker 2: We can take kids who's.
35:36
Speaker 3: Living in poverty and then put them in an eight
35:38
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand square floor building and feed them
35:41
Speaker 3: every day and change their culture and change.
35:44
Speaker 2: What they see.
35:45
Speaker 3: A lot of people focus on ROI return of investment,
35:48
Speaker 3: return of investment, return of investment. But if you think
35:51
Speaker 3: about the communities that I live in, return of investment
35:54
Speaker 3: is not the hot topic. The hot topic should be
35:56
Speaker 3: what we created, which is ioa imagination, tunity access, right,
36:03
Speaker 3: clap it up for that.
36:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be bothering. So yeah, let me ask you this.
36:10
Speaker 5: You're in media, and that's something that a lot of athletes. Uh,
36:15
Speaker 5: it's very hot right now, right everybody when they retire,
36:17
Speaker 5: they want to become a broadcaster, but very few people
36:19
Speaker 5: are actually able to be successful in that in that space.
36:25
Speaker 5: So talk about how your transition and media happened and
36:30
Speaker 5: how you were able to, you know, become successful in
36:34
Speaker 5: another leg of your career. And like I said, that's
36:36
Speaker 5: actually probably harder to be successful in TV than it
36:40
Speaker 5: is on the field.
36:41
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
36:43
Speaker 3: People ask me all these questions every day, just every day,
36:47
Speaker 3: like how can I do this?
36:49
Speaker 2: How can I get better? How this?
36:50
Speaker 3: And I was like, and I was talking to my
36:51
Speaker 3: team and I was like, man, you know, the podcast
36:55
Speaker 3: is great and I'm doing this and I got this going,
36:58
Speaker 3: but I got I got to go a little bit deeper, right,
37:01
Speaker 3: So I was like, you know what, every Friday, we're
37:05
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37:08
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, there is actually fifty two Fridays and
37:12
Speaker 3: this year, and inside of these fifty two Fridays, there
37:15
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37:18
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37:22
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37:25
Speaker 3: But by the time you get to fifty two Fridays,
37:27
Speaker 3: you will have fifty two principles and the only thing
37:30
Speaker 3: that fails is your application of them. That's it, right,
37:35
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37:39
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37:41
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37:45
Speaker 3: watching the podcast grow it with the way it grew,
37:48
Speaker 3: and then realizing like people are hearing it, but how
37:52
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37:52
Speaker 2: Are applying it. So fifty two Friday.
37:55
Speaker 3: Says, now apply apply that, and now when you apply it,
37:59
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38:02
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38:06
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Speaker 3: I'm in the I'm in I'm in my dungeon at
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Speaker 3: one and two o'clock in the morning. Right, I said,
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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna eat this, so now I'm working out right.
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Speaker 3: So it's it's really crazy, man, when you see how
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Speaker 3: much traffic comes in of just people just collaborating.
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Speaker 2: You know. Awesome question.
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Speaker 5: So football, we were talking offline ESPN thirty for thirty.
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Speaker 2: Oh they said that.
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Speaker 5: Well, we talked about if you guys were the greatest
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Speaker 5: defense ever. So you know, some people say the Bears.
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Speaker 2: Said, oh that's a Chicago guy. You see, you saw
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Speaker 2: the Bears era. So I'm gonna respect that. I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: respect that. Go ahead, But.
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Speaker 5: You you gave a very convincing argument why you guys
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Speaker 5: had the best defense.
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Speaker 2: Can you talk about why you think you have the
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Speaker 2: best defense of it? I'm gonna take think out of it.
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Speaker 2: You take think out of while you know you're the
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Speaker 2: best defense.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, look, look I'm gonna leave it Tea like this. Right,
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Speaker 3: the game is based off numbers. It'll never changed. Right,
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Speaker 3: what that defense done in that year will never be
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Speaker 3: repeated ever again. Right, we gave her, We gave up.
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Speaker 3: This is in one game running back to running for
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Speaker 3: two hundred yards three hundred yards. Teams are running for
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Speaker 3: four hundred yards. Right that entire year, we gave up
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Speaker 3: nine hundred and sixty yards total. We gave up less
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Speaker 3: than ten points a game, nine point six, nine point six.
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Speaker 3: We had five shutouts. We went five weeks without scoring
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Speaker 3: an offensive touchdown and one and one three out of
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Speaker 3: those five. And we get into the playoffs. And this
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Speaker 3: is the stat that I I'm telling you, like, if
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Speaker 3: you want to crown the greatest, we went into the
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Speaker 3: playoffs and we gave up one touchdown the entire playoffs.
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Speaker 3: We went in the Super Bowl and they had sixteen possessions.
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Speaker 2: Run down, punt, run down, punt yeah, punt yeah, put yeah,
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Speaker 2: put yeah.
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Speaker 3: Interception punt yep, punt yeah, punt yeah, punt yeah, intercepts
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Speaker 3: there go, punt yeup, punt, punt punt innoceps.
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Speaker 2: Game over. Oh man, now, Ray, it's been a pleasure. Man.
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Speaker 5: Before we leave all, when you look back on your career,
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Speaker 5: you've done so much, you've been tremendously blessed. What do
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Speaker 5: you want your legacy to be when it's all said
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Speaker 5: and done.
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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's the best question I've always gotten, because
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Speaker 3: that is the kind of the A one of the
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Speaker 3: most easiest.
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Speaker 2: Questions, and that is.
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Speaker 3: I never cared about how great I became. I only
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Speaker 3: cared about the people that was beside me. My brother's
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Speaker 3: the brotherhood is was my greatest investment and still to
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Speaker 3: this day.
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Speaker 2: Last week in Vegas for the Pro Bowl. This week
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Speaker 2: here the.
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Speaker 3: Young men that was lost lions then come up to
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Speaker 3: me now and say, Papa, thank you for investing in
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Speaker 3: in me. So you can do a lot of things
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Speaker 3: in sports, and they can argue who's the best, But
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Speaker 3: when you have the ability to change the direction of
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Speaker 3: somebody's life, it's the greatest achievement you ever have in life.
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Speaker 2: That's like the legend of Seals.
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