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Gman, Drunken Peasants Ben,Scotty Taylor Kirk,Amina du Jean, Lady Hopium, Cindi Lincoln, Geek Room · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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I mean if you don't if a person doesn't think that they're there
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is a God to be accountable to, then then what's the point of
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trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable
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ranges? That's how I thought.
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Anyway, because I always I always believe the lie that
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evolution is truth. The theory of evolution is true
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that we all just came from The Slime.
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And when we when we died, you know, that was it it was
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nothing. So it's the whole Theory
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cheapens life and started reading books about how the
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chill how evolution is just a complete lie.
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There's there's no there's no basis in science to a pole it
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and I've come to since come to believe that the Lord Jesus
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Christ. Is the true creator of the
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heavens and the Earth. Was it purely physical or did
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you feel an emotional bond with this bitch?
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Did you feel an emotional bond with this?
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14 year old bitch or was it just purely?
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You know you wanted to get yourself a piece of young ass?
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I mean, tell me that tell me that I felt an emotional bond
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with a pussy. All right, man.
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See man, this is why I can't talk to you man, cuz you You see
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your trifling ass motherfucker, TJ.
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You just skin beat motherfucker. You you don't feel the fucking
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depth of emotion, IV, motherfucker, see, that's what
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I'm talking. Can't have a conversation with
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the last goddamn I am the Alpha and the Omega the
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Hey, Tony, how you doing? I'm gonna have to get a little
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bit closer to your mic. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
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name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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I hope you're all having a blessed day out there.
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What you're looking at right now is my website if people go to
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Brett Keen dot U s-- you're going to see that.
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I've done an entire article and the drunken peasants been pie at
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what we're going to be talking about tonight as well as Mokey
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st. Crimes and let's see what we got
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here. If you go here at the very top,
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it says, lady hope IAM. This is the original host of the
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interviews done by the victims. The females who came forward who
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said that they were sexually assaulted by been pie the host
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of the drunken peasants and there's entirely a whole lot of
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information here. It directs people to the Persons
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YouTube channel. So folks can actually see the
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original interviews. I did however, end up making
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copies because I didn't want them as well as his crew to try
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to destroy the evidence. You understand what I'm saying,
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mr. Tony, yes, sir.
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So we got it out there. One of these females appears to
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be underage, both females, have a YouTube channel.
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One of them spends more time on Twitter.
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One of them is called Taylor Kirk.
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Apparently, she's in a relationship with Scotty Kirk at
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the moment, it was actually drunken peasants fans who people
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who claim to be of the drunken peasants fans and Community, Who
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provided me, the video footage and the interview and all that
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kind of stuff, which I've been trying to direct a lot of views
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over to so people can see what's happening.
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Tony one of the sad things about the claims.
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I noticed in the recordings of these young ladies Ladies is
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that they both believe that no one will listen to them.
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They don't believe that. They should even bother with the
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police because they have so little, how do I say trust our
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faith and our system are the authorities.
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They don't think that the cops will do anything about it.
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So they chose to allow this popular YouTuber by the name of
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lady, hope IAM to broadcast them.
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How do you feel about that Tony? You think that that's a problem
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for women these days where if they're raped or sexually abused
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or drugged up that they're somehow going to not be heard,
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it seems like whenever women came out against Bill Cosby
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didn't he go to prison? Yeah, it's very tragic and sad.
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Yeah. As you know Tony I've been
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trying to help out people for years and all that I've been
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recently doing shows with a person by the name of Cindy
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Lincoln who makes accusation and says they have issues with a
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YouTuber on here and I've also been trying to help the
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community Bill to see what Smokey Saint is all about.
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Who is a self-proclaimed Christian.
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Have you been following up on the Smoky st.
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Issues before we get into this book?
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To jump around a little bit. I do want to point out the folks
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I have reached out to some of these people who are making the
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accusation that they have been sexually assaulted by this guy
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that you see in the picture. And some of them say that they
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may come on the show and may talk others say that, they're
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afraid that if they do, that then has a lot of money and his
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community is so big, according to them, they're afraid that
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he'll hurt them in real life. So there, Afraid to come forth
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and speak and that really really makes me sad.
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I can understand what it feels like to be pressured and people
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trying to intimidate you on the internet.
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You know what I mean? Tony so but the thing is is a
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lot of these women. I know.
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It's easier. Said than done, you have to
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realize that if someone hurts you and you let it pass and you
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let it continue to go other women are And end up being hurt.
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Other people are going to be hurt.
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The more confident the person gets in themselves that
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nothing's going to be done about it.
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No accountability, no responsibility, no justice.
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Then more people are going to get hurt so even if you're
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afraid of what some idiots might say on the internet, don't if
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you go to the police, you tell them what's up, you tell them
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what happened and all that, and bring your friends, or anybody
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that you think is a witness something.
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Thing can get down about it, don't don't lose hope.
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Don't lose faith. And don't allow yourself to be
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used like a like a fucking toilet.
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Go ahead, Tony. What do you got to say, brother?
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I agree. Let's see what we got here.
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Let's click on the link, make sure it works.
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This is the YouTuber who actually hosted.
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Let's see if this will go over. Like it's supposed to.
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It looks like it's taking what there's a little bit of lag
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here. Here is the person that
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originally hosted the interviews, let me make sure
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that the broadcast is actually showing it.
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Oh, I guess I'm going to have to click on a different window in
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order to show this Let me click out of that crap and we will do
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this. Yeah, I don't have my own Tech
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guy over here, I'm doing it all myself talking and going at the
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same time. Alright, so here is the original
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host. Okay, are you able to see this
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on the screen now? Tony Yes.
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Lately opium. I hope them were hot them or
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something like that. Well, you guys can all see the
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lady, hop them's name, or whatever.
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Apparently they've done interviews with the Amazing
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Atheist as well as I guess palsy go or something like that.
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And also a character by the name of Vash it was originally been
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who is a part of the now? Drunken peasants who did this?
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And apparently Tyler Kirk is in Wild with Scottie, that's why
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Tyler has the last name moscati Kirk.
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I am curious about something, one thing that is confusing me
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because I listen to the interviews and the stories are
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extremely rough. They're extremely harsh.
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I'm curious. Why Scotty Kirk brother of TJ
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hasn't continued to encourage these emails to have the
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strength to go to the police and say something about this mess.
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You know, not just let it pass or fly.
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I was reading a Reddit where someone said that the reason why
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they don't mention it is because they're under some kind of
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contract with DP. And I'm thinking to myself what
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fucking court of law is going to give a shit about a podcast
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contract. Whenever it's dealing with women
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who have been sexually violated I mean, does that sound normal
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to you? Tony does that even sound like
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that works on our planet? Now, that sounds messed up to be
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honest. Yeah, it sounds to me.
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Like, some people just simply don't give a damn about what
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happened. And they're not making any kind
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of effort to encourage these young ladies to come forward and
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do what they need to do on that. Instead, these girls find
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themselves being hosted by YouTubers and Didn't tell their
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story that way where they should be going directly to the
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authorities. I think some I was hoping that
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some of these ladies would come in, so I could give them some
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instruction and advice and encourage some are and how to
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get a hold of the proper people to get something about this so
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who knows? Maybe they'll still show up.
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Maybe something will happen. Maybe one who knows?
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So Tony before we get into any more nonsense here, how has your
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day been? So far so good.
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Just trying to keep myself busy, keep my mind occupied, they
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watching a lot of videos, some of yours.
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Of course, I have a huge library of things that I'm interested
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in, whether it's like biblical studies biblical archaeology,
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for paranormal, you know, like mythical creatures.
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Ancient Egypt, you know, etc, etc.
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I have a plethora of of Interest.
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Goodness, gracious. Sounds like you've been busy.
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Hey, Tony. Are you able to see this text on
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the screen? Or is it too blurry?
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Yeah, I can see it. I can pronounce the name.
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Do one. Yes, this person.
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This is her right here. And this is her, she left a huge
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comment on this person's Channel that I was just showing off.
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Basically, to the people asking for proof.
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I came out into 2017, 2018 with chat logs audio, screenshots of
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the proof, this was posted on the subreddit which been bought
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for a few thousand dollars and scrubbed.
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You hear that the guy actually bought the pages that She told
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her story aren't and provided audio and video and all that
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kind of stuff and then apparently bought it up and
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scrubbed it. How Corporate is that, right?
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Geez, he also doxxed me and had me banned from Reddit most of
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the mods. He paid off are no longer in the
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community to my knowledge but I will reach out.
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This was an incredibly painful experience for me and coming out
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on read, it was so hard. It was even harder.
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When Ben had people like ribeye and Jeff holiday attacked me for
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years. After this I had people posting
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my legal name alongside my sex work to four Chan various forums
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messaging people I knew on Twitter, I'm not implying it's
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all been. But I know for a fact, one of
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the main persons was one of the women Ben was with who has now
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turned against him. Apparently, she also weirdly
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kept bringing Race up. I can find the screenshots But
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please understand how mentally taxing.
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The sister people involved. What purpose would any of us
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have are coming out against us, if it's not true.
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If it's pure scorn. Then why have multiple people
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come with the same exact Story? Please have compassion and
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understand. This is hard for many of us.
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Our poor dear. I'm going to read the rest of
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it. How do you feel about the so far
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for me? So sorry.
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As for the claims about minors, when I came out on Reddit, a
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girl who was 16? Told me Ben was message in her
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when she was 14. 15 between 14, 15 nothing illegal, but was
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flirty. He also told me in person.
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Okay, hold on a second. Looks like we gotta pay Cindy,
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how you doing? Hi brother.
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ER, I'm talking about some different animals on the
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internet who've been very, very bad, you've been terrible.
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I don't see if you, I don't know if you see what's on the screen
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right now, I don't. Okay.
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So what we're talking about right now, Cindy has apparently
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been, who's the host of the drunken peasants?
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A bunch of women have come out and claim that will, these were
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underage girls. A couple of them are of age but
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there's a bunch of them according to this girl, who are
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Now stating that he drugged them and then sexually assaulted them
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while they were drugged and high drunk and all this.
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And I've been talking about this and I'm also going to talk about
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the Smoky st. Issue.
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I was just earlier talking a little bit about your issues.
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You're having with us certain social media people, I'm almost
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finished reading. This are you ready to go for it?
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As for the claims about minors. When I came out on right at a
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girl who was 16? Told me Ben was messaging her
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when she was 14. 15 between 14, 15, nothing illegal.
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But was flirty, well, messing around with 14, 15 s underage,
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right? That's considered a minor.
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Well, it's Sunday is that considered a minor in your
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state? It is in mine.
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Yes. I don't know why the girl says
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she is a very young girl, who's claiming that this happened.
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So maybe she doesn't know that the laws state that under 16
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years old is considered a minor. Yeah, he also told me in person
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at a 16 year old girl was obsessed with him and she would
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chat with them every day. I told him to contact her
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parents and he said no, they beat her as if he had to talk
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with this girl. Granted, he didn't say he did
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anything illegal with her, but in what world does any 35 Plus
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year old man, want anything to do with jailbait?
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I've never claimed, he was a pedophile.
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That's actually a straw man, tactic that he, and a few who
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follow him do discredit. Everything else that's been
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said, I don't believe he's a pedophile.
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I think he wants to lie to attractive, kind women, he would
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never in a million years. It's a lot.
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That's just she seems like she's trying to like defending, but
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also point out what he's done all at the same time, it's odd.
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And also, she mentions me. At the end of it, I was one of
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the few people back in the day, who pointed out that he was
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dangerous and going to cause problems.
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And according to Tyler, Kirk she says right here, there were so
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many parts in your story that happened to me as well that I
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didn't mention. So as a Firming to hear that you
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were so articulate even with so many horrible memories to have
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to go through. Thank you for your bravery.
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And for coming forward, this is Taylor Kirk and she also has had
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a similar experience with Ben but strangely and unusual her
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story is kind of odd because she would end up marrying.
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The friend Scotty Kirk who used to host the show with the guy
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who did this to her? That's odd right?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I'm thinking about some of the things I've heard about like
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Stockholm syndrome and and confusion and where they love
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bomb you to make you. Like the abuser.
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I don't know if that's accurate, I just stepped in so I don't
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know that much but you know what I'm talking about.
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You know what? You know what, I think.
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Brett. What's up, Tony?
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What do you think? You're have to speak up a little
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bit? It's hard to hear you remember,
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I'm deaf dude, 80s metal. Yeah, well, what I think is It's
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kind of ironic because a lot of these girls.
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I mean, I'm not against, I'm not on the side of obviously,
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atheist at the same time, it's interesting how some girls think
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that they can get into a relationship with an a seat
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atheist and think that they're going to be like sweet as pie.
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What did they expect? They're going to get this action
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from them. You know why I can understand
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why you would come to that conclusion and I hope nobody
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gets mad at either. Of us for saying this.
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It's someone thinks I'm wrong for saying what I'm about to say
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than feel free to correct me. This is a group whose does drugs
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right on their live stream, okay?
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And they call themself the drunken peasants.
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So the idea that if you go out with people who are in the
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drunken peasants, who drink and do drugs all day, most likely
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when you engage them, there will be alcohol and drugs.
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That's the rationality, right? Right.
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Or am I stupid Common Sense? Should we expect that?
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They just simply get taken out the McDonald's and have a Big
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Mac? I'm awfully nice ended just tell
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me what you're talking about a 15 year old girl.
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Well, it's a 15 year old and the other girl I think that she's at
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this point she's of legal age, but when it happened to her, she
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was a minor. So yeah, I had a, I had some DP
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people who ended up sending me the same bright.
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You need to check out these interviews.
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You need to see what's being said for some reason the
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internet whether it's atheist or people of faith and stuff people
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come to me about these issues and all that and I guess they
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figure because I'm such a neutral Fair person.
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I'll end up saying something about it and encouraging people
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to do what they need to do. What do you think?
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Cindy and Tony Oh yeah, I mean, obviously I believe in exposing
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evil in order to protect the innocent and yeah, I guess what
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Tony was saying about, well, what does she expect?
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I guess, I just remember when I was 15, I was stupid enough to
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go out with guys who drank and I didn't have the discernment and
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ability to say, no, I don't want to hang out with people.
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That. So it just all depends on where
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she's at, you know, certainly in Tony.
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I don't know how to get to see the very beginning of the show
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but I think that there's a good reason.
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Why Scotty Kirk and TJ Kirk doesn't come out or encourage
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her to step up to the plate against been about the messing
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around girls underage. I have a theory on it.
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Why they wouldn't do that. Would you like to see Tony and
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Cindy? All right, watch your screen.
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Real close and Up your Valium. Here you go.
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Was it purely physical or did you feel an emotional bond with
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this bitch? Did you feel an emotional bond
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with this? 14 year old bitch or was it just
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purely? You know you wanted to get
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yourself a piece of young ass? I mean, tell me that.
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Tell me that I felt an emotional bond with a pussy.
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All right, man. See man, this is why I can't
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talk to you man, because you You can see you were trifling ass
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motherfucker, TJ. You just skin beat motherfucker.
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You, you don't feel the fucking depth of emotion.
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I do mother fucka. See, that's what I'm talking
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about. I can't have a conversation with
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the last goddamn Thank you for cutting that off.
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I think you guys got the point. So, what did you see in the
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comments section between him and did you guys recognize the other
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fella? Yeah, DJ DJ Kurt.
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One of the most popular atheist in the world called The Amazing
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Atheist. Our new YouTube could get
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featured on the front of YouTube's channel is talking
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about having sex with a 14 year old.
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That's recorded. And you can see that there are
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part of the same podcast and those two guys know each other
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See, we got somebody here called, Brian.
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Let me put something up on the screen in case this person
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decides they want to porn bomb me, and we'll see what happens.
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Let's go ahead and put that up since.
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That's kind of on topic, right? Hello Brian, how are you good
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evening at the brass plate, to you, the other night.
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I did intend to try and sabotage will stream.
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And anyway, all very good, very good.
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Brian, how you doing? Yeah, very good.
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Thank you for having me. Brian.
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Were you one of the ones who provided some of these
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interviews and some of these videos are pointed me in the
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right direction. I don't know about that.
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But I mean you and I spoke a little bit about some of the
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allegations that have been levied towards both been drunk
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and peasants and some of the other adversaries of yours in
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the YouTube space. Now remember if you have to
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certain people some people say I'm kind of slow, why don't you
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give your summary What's going on on those?
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What's your position? What have you heard?
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And how do you? How would you describe it?
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I've been and I'm sorry to disappoint in this respect.
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But my opinion, when it comes to these kind of sexual allegations
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is that it's of the utmost importance to allow the victim,
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the complainant themselves to go about describing their
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experiences and that for me to try and comment on it as
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somebody who hasn't been privy to what happened would be
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disrespectful. And so all I can say is that I'd
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encourage everybody to look at the interviews, consider any
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other relevant evidence and route.
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In conclusion on the matter. That's a good point and I have
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definitely put the link out there.
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I've showed people that if they go to the website at the very
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front that can watch the original host who did the
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interview called lady, hope IAM, I think is how the name is
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pronounced, as well as be able to hear the different copies out
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there as well. One to make sure that Ben and
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the DP do not try to destroy the evidence.
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Pretty pretty safe. Bet, what do you say, Stephanie
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and Tony? Safe bet to, well, you gotta
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protect things. You got to make sure you keep
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copies of stuff, especially whenever it comes to digital.
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I mean, you just heard that the girl said that, she put all this
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information out there and then Ben and web buying the website
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that the information was Arn and then had it scrubbed.
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Wow. Yeah.
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Wow, I've had the same That's true.
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Go ahead Sunday. What was that man?
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Trying to say that you shouldn't be doing this.
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She should be doing it herself. No, not at all.
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I wasn't saying that brat has no right to comment on it.
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I was just asked myself to try and describe her experiences and
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I don't think that that would be appropriate the video of her
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being interviewed over two hours is Available on YouTube for
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anyone who would like to care and detail.
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What happened to her, okay? Yeah, because there's a fellow
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victim, I always appreciate it when someone else would say
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something for me, because sometimes victims aren't
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relieved. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.
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But I mean, I don't when you say someone, say something for you,
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do you mean somebody who's witnessed it or had some kind of
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connection to it? Because I don't know, any of the
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people involved in this? What?
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Brian? I guess?
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What? I suspected was going to happen
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is you have listened to the interview.
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You did hear the information and I was asking what is your
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summary of it and all that? But if you feel like it's
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somehow dishonors these women by explaining what, Get from their
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stories and stuff. So you would be the first one in
32:56
the world. I've ever heard about the
32:57
pleasant, feel the need to explain what?
33:01
What you got from this terrible event that has happened.
33:07
Yeah. And I appreciate that.
33:08
I mean, it sounds, I'd be interested to see what Ben's
33:13
response to these allegations are.
33:16
Has he made any kind of public response?
33:19
Not that I've heard of Brian it like I was telling you earlier
33:23
and stuff before we went on the show, there was some one thing
33:26
that I've discovered is that A lot of the stuff that comes from
33:31
people like yourself or other fans or people part of the
33:35
community who come to me and they say, hey Brett, take a look
33:39
at this. What do you think of this?
33:40
What's going on and all that and one of the things that really
33:44
bothered me about this Cindy and Tony, when I listened to the
33:47
interview, I heard a reoccurring theme the Tyler Kirk girl.
33:52
She says I'm just some kind of redneck from whatever state.
33:57
I'm I'm a nobody I got No money. I've got nothing going on for
34:01
me. And I didn't want to go against
34:03
him at that time because I thought there'd be some issue.
34:06
But then on the other hand, I'm thinking, okay?
34:08
So you're involved with someone who is Rich, you are involved
34:12
with Scotty Kirk. Why isn't she being encouraged
34:15
to go out and do something about it?
34:17
And then the other girl, if you go look at her videos, she's
34:20
clearly a young person and she's claiming that she was seriously
34:25
hurt and violated. And she was told during the
34:28
interview, This is what I heard, Brian.
34:31
She said I'm a black girl. I live in this area.
34:35
I don't think the police will listen to me.
34:37
I don't think anybody'll care. And the host didn't say anything
34:41
to the effect of you need to go to the police.
34:45
You need to try to get some help.
34:47
You need to, you know, do something besides just simply
34:50
doing YouTube stuff, and get some help for yourself.
34:54
No one said that. Instead they the host kind of
34:58
agreed and said, yeah. You can't trust the cops or the
35:01
authority figures. How the fuck does that help?
35:05
Yeah, I mean, you're quite right.
35:06
That was absent from the discussion and I'm not really
35:09
quite sure why. And the other point that you
35:12
just alluded to that both both of these women seem to have
35:16
quite low self-esteem emanating from their perceived low
35:20
socioeconomic status. Like you say Taylor Kirk was
35:23
describing herself as a redneck and then the race of the second
35:27
complainant seem to be raised to And I'm not quite sure why I
35:31
think something that doesn't seem to be tested.
35:34
Is that been in? Both instances was scouring,
35:37
through his fan base, to try and find and communicate with young
35:42
woman that were interested in the show and that in itself is
35:46
going to give rise to a power imbalance.
35:50
There was one of the reasons why I don't know if you knew that
35:53
Brian, but a lot of people are saying that I'm one of the big
35:57
reasons why the group even And broke up in the first place, why
36:01
certain host went this direction and they their own podcast as
36:05
you remember, Ben was repeatedly plane, segments of my videos and
36:11
all that constantly taking my content playing it, and then he
36:15
would make fun of the way I looked.
36:17
When I talked my accent everything.
36:19
Well, what ends up happening is I knew that he had gotten to a
36:22
point where he wasn't even reviewing my videos anymore, he
36:25
just play him on the screen. Shit, talk to me and then go on
36:28
his merry way. Well, during that time, some DP
36:31
fans had sent me pictures and imagery showing that he was
36:35
cheating on. His wife with underage girls and
36:39
I put the imagery up there to prove it and he did that live
36:44
and it was shown to his wife, what he was doing.
36:46
He instantly turned off the video and deleted it and that
36:51
was one of the reasons why he got fired from the DP.
36:53
I don't know if you were aware of that Brian.
36:55
Hey, without I think that was, I mean, certainly the trigger, I
36:58
think I'm better. Funny Affair.
37:00
You had a final laugh in that regard.
37:04
Yeah, yeah. A lot of people they say,
37:06
brackeen end of that group and all that kind of stuff.
37:09
The idea wasn't really so much. As the end of it was to prove to
37:13
this woman out here, who was obviously she was having a
37:16
adultery committed against her. She was being done wrong.
37:19
Obviously, I don't like the guy. I think he's a piece of trash
37:23
but I also think it's just absolutely terrible to be
37:26
cheating on your spouse doing these kind of things and also
37:29
messing around with underage girls, how do you guys feel
37:31
about that? What's your opinion?
37:33
I've been Babbling incoherently over here.
37:37
Why in the world? Would he do that on YouTube?
37:42
And why in the world does YouTube, not shut that down?
37:49
I'm not sure if they're aware of what's going on.
37:51
Because what we're referring to here is communication on other
37:54
social media platforms and direct message.
37:58
That's how we had to go about soliciting, these people.
38:02
Yeah, there's no way for you to know sir.
38:04
I thought he was committing adultery on YouTube is what you
38:08
will, send me, what he was doing was he was pretending to be
38:11
there for his wife on his show. It was a shows about him making
38:16
fun of people insulting people trying to tear people.
38:19
Down. That was his thing.
38:21
It was behind the scenes where he was doing this and
38:24
apparently, he was doing this with his buddies.
38:26
He pissed off a couple of his buddies.
38:28
I I've heard from a lot of drunken peasants.
38:31
People are former fans that they call him.
38:35
Ben, Ben sir, Shep or something like that.
38:38
It's basically a long word, a nickname for, he's bigger and
38:41
censoring people and going off on people and giving people hell
38:45
all the time. And they basically got pissed
38:48
off and they Decided to show his wife.
38:51
What had happened? You know, then formation.
38:54
That's rough. well, I would say if I were the wife, I would
39:00
appreciate knowing Oh, I think that relationship well over at
39:07
this point roof. That's rough.
39:09
Let's see what we got here. Okay, Tony says he'll be back in
39:12
a few. All right, Tony.
39:13
See you later. What's up Sunday?
39:15
When I first, Googled you, when people were harassing me for
39:19
going on your channel, I Googled you and I couldn't find your
39:24
stuff. All I could find.
39:26
Was this drunken peasants? Tough, like the first five hits
39:31
on the Google results were drunken peasants.
39:35
And at first I thought well, maybe that's your your tag name
39:38
or something. No.
39:41
Yeah, they deliberately tried to do everything.
39:44
They can to basically bury my name and everything into the
39:48
dirt drag me through the mud. I've been on the show before,
39:52
and originally it was to go on there to explain why it is.
39:57
I become a Christian why I believe in God and all that kind
40:00
of stuff. And the first show that ended up
40:03
happening was I brought a couple Christians are into the thing
40:07
and we tried to have the discussion in a sucked in every
40:10
way imaginable. And then everything else have
40:13
two words was just simply drama and aggravation.
40:19
So yeah. Yep.
40:19
Yep. So that's that's unfortunately,
40:22
what can happen Cindy? If you come out speaking against
40:25
the group, that's what these girls are worried about their
40:28
worried that these idiots will make tons and tons of videos,
40:32
calling them. Every name in the book, accusing
40:35
them of things, getting into their job, their personal lives,
40:39
all this kind of stuff and that's why they're afraid a
40:43
person that they're on the bad end of things and someone's more
40:47
popular. In them, they can be.
40:50
Well, he'll Cindy, we've talked about this if a person super
40:53
popular and they've got the upper hand.
40:56
They can literally just turn the internet into whatever fantasy
41:00
or present any visual they want whether it's true or not.
41:05
And I think that's a really that's a really good point,
41:07
right? And respect it bends romantic
41:11
success. If you want to call it that, I
41:13
mean I don't think he's the kind of guy that would have been
41:16
attracting a particularly large number of A woman outside of the
41:20
fame that he had been experiencing while on the
41:23
drunken peasants and it's zeniff and well, you're absolutely
41:28
right. The guy looks like Splinter off
41:30
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, you know, the mutated rat so I
41:33
don't suspect anybody. Some no fallen over for that or
41:36
tripping over sticks to get there.
41:39
What is not his? Yes.
41:41
Sorry to interrupt you. I mean it's not just his looks
41:43
though. I just I mean it's I don't
41:44
consider myself a highly attractive person, but he also
41:47
just lacks the The kind of Charisma that was present in
41:50
some of the other guests. Oh, I can agree with that.
41:54
Brian. I used to say all the time that
41:56
once someone leaves that show, it's over.
41:59
That thing's going to go into the toilet.
42:01
I used to predict that all the time.
42:03
Yep. Yep.
42:04
Yep. I'm Brian and Cindy and Tony.
42:06
Can you do me a favor? I will be right back.
42:09
Remember French vanilla circulation.
42:11
That's our code word for I need a timeout.
42:14
Can you guys take over for me? For a moment only if you bring
42:17
me one, Do me a favor of quick Sunday.
42:21
I don't you don't know nothing about this meme, but you'll you
42:24
might get a kick out of it. Repeat after me, go.
42:27
Oh, bright Keen. Mac and cheese that you way
42:30
she's a long time ago. She says honey dinners made and
42:50
I go. What's for dinner, baby?
42:52
And she goes mac and cheese and Paul goes all mac and cheese.
42:56
Shut you wear shin here. Oh yeah, there's a big
43:00
inventory. You took ownership of the joke?
43:03
Which really nullified any potential and so the last one in
43:06
there. Yeah.
43:09
Well I don't really see what insulting somebody that likes
43:12
mac and cheese has a deal. I think mac and cheese is a
43:15
pretty popular thing, it's not like it's and bows were from One
43:18
or something that nobody's ever heard though right here.
43:21
Right now. And it's not, I mean, I suppose
43:36
somebody's over there, the scratch, and the piss out there.
43:38
Mike are you okay over there? Goodness gracious.
43:43
Yeah, there was always weird to, it's always strange.
43:45
When you have someone that weighs roughly in the They £850
43:50
telling me who you are, hold on a sec.
43:52
Let me go ahead and meet Tony since he wants to scratch the
43:54
piss out of his microphone over there. 850 pounds of pure meat
44:00
sitting there calling a guy is 250 fat, that's so odd.
44:05
Goodness gracious and my titties don't even sag.
44:08
Brian doesn't make any sense. It's a kind of takes the bite
44:11
out of it, doesn't it? Yeah, makes me just want to jump
44:14
up on cam and go blueberry muffin.
44:16
Shut you away shahir. Hey guys, I'll be right back.
44:20
I gotta do the French vanilla. Yeah, this bottled.
44:26
If you guys mind, please don't just sit there all quietly.
44:29
Yeah, I'll try and conduct a little bit of hospitality.
44:34
So, Cindy you to be yourself. But it sounds like she might not
44:44
be here. Cindy, are you here?
44:47
Cindy got to unmute your mic. Oh, she might have froze up.
44:53
Tony it. Can you talk to Brian?
44:55
So he just chilling all by himself.
44:58
Sure. So Tony, how are you today?
45:03
Okay, how are you? Yeah quite all right are you a
45:07
YouTuber like Brett? Yeah.
45:17
Well, not, not there. Come on.
46:00
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of comparing dick sizes when
46:05
it comes to this kind of thing. As long as you derive, some kind
46:09
of some kind of pleasure, some positivity from posting videos
46:13
and making friends online. Then there's no need for it to
46:16
go on or any serious attention. Yeah.
46:24
Where are you from? Are you not able to tell I'm
46:30
assuming you're from the UK? Yeah, yeah, that's right.
46:38
Yeah, I have a friend that lives in California.
46:42
She's she's British. I've known her for quite some
46:47
time. I never been to the UK but my
46:50
sister she was there when she was younger, is horrible
47:00
weather. Yeah.
47:02
But I just thought it'd be very interesting from an American
47:04
just because the thirteen colonies were the The embryology
47:10
of American the American perhaps not American culture today
47:15
because so much time has passed. But certainly the early American
47:18
state former British colony. And so coming to visit his, it
47:23
can be quite strange the other way around America, sometimes to
47:25
me during my experiences visiting, there's felt like a
47:28
weird cousin Right. Yeah, yeah.
47:35
My understanding of History I'm not an expert but I believe
47:42
George Washington himself was a British.
47:45
I'm not mistaken. He was a British origin in terms
47:50
of his ancestry but he was born in the US but at that time I
47:57
mean we're talking quite early here, this is, you know, mid to
48:00
late, 18th century USD. Graphics with primarily British.
48:06
I am back. Did you guys miss me?
48:08
No need for Applause. Yeah.
48:09
Yeah we were just beside ourselves.
48:12
The Brian. I don't know if you heard about
48:14
the Smoky same thing if Cindy Lincoln is up so you can talk
48:17
about some of her issues that she's having as well.
48:20
If you're interested Sunday, if that's something you want to
48:23
share right now though, we're do you guys know anything about a
48:27
user called Smokey st. Out there because I promised the
48:30
audience we would discuss I then but I'm old is okay.
48:35
So Smoky Saint is a soft. Smokey Saint is a
48:39
self-proclaimed somebody's over there, eating bubble gum or
48:42
something and is there everybody's muted except for.
48:47
Okay, there we go. So Smoky Saint is a
48:49
self-proclaimed Christian, he's used an avatar to disguise
48:54
himself when you know basically had that what is that word where
48:59
basically people are trying to hide themselves and He's
49:03
pretended to be a Christian for the longest time doing videos,
49:08
and he calls women whores. He calls people, the n-word, he
49:12
loves calling people. The why don't want this to be
49:17
put on some kind of like voice things.
49:19
So I'll just spell it out for people.
49:21
He likes to call people. Fagg0t is I believe how it's
49:25
pronounced. If you one of you want to say it
49:27
and end up on a soundboard, you can I don't but he's done that
49:32
and all Also it turned out that some females came forth and said
49:36
that he molested them whenever they were younger.
49:39
And so far his mug shot has been shown.
49:42
Apparently, some people found some older videos of him where
49:45
he did not have a picture on his videos and he's taken a lot of
49:49
heat. And there's also a guy called
49:50
Pastor Kenny Rhodes, who has repeatedly said that he's best
49:55
friends with this guy and that it's not the same person but
49:58
then someone took pictures of him and that guy at court.
50:02
With one of the victims. So, yeah, yeah, that that went
50:07
bad. The guys Hunter sex registry
50:09
list at this point, he was definitely dealt with and that's
50:13
one of the reasons why I think he's the original topic.
50:16
These two girls should come forward and say what happened
50:20
with them because things do get down about these issues.
50:24
What do you think about that? You guys didn't hear anything
50:27
about Old Smokey, saying, Tom hadn't done?
50:30
It sounds like a pretty dark and unfortunate tale, right?
50:34
I'm guessing that his All too frequent, man.
50:39
Mmm. Yeah, I suspect his YouTube
50:43
prospects are pretty dim at this point.
50:46
Well, unfortunately, it seems like there are some and I've
50:51
been really, really pissed off about this.
50:53
He's got kind of the same thing going as our as our guy Ben, who
50:58
we've been talking about where he's popular.
51:01
So there are some Christians out there who are defending him up
51:05
and down and some of They know who he is, but they're saying
51:09
they're using the Bible and a way to manipulate it saying, oh,
51:14
well, you know, God forgives God, does all this kind of
51:19
thing, and I believe God forgives.
51:21
But I also believe that Jesus is pretty hostile towards people
51:25
who hurt little kids and children, and all that kind of
51:27
stuff. I'll give you an example.
51:30
Cindy, you remembered verse 4 says, if you cause one little
51:33
one to stumble, be better. If you tie a milestone around
51:35
your neck and jump in the sea. It doesn't sound like Jesus was
51:39
a big endorser of that kind of felt.
51:41
Well, no, not only that but there is a cost for forgiveness
51:46
and it's repentance if I'm not mistaken and he has not come up
51:51
on video. In fact, he lied the whole time
51:53
about who he was and it took a lot of aggravation from a couple
51:57
handfuls of Christians who are doing the right thing, as well
52:00
as a couple handful of atheist. Just recently, raging atheist
52:05
did a video in a Christian. Actually had one of the victims
52:09
come on to his show and talk about the issues that happen.
52:13
It's horrible. The story is very graphic, very
52:16
dark just it's extremely rough. Let me share something on the
52:21
screen here real quick for folks.
52:25
Let's see. Okay.
52:29
Let me goodness, I need one of these tech people.
52:33
I got to do all the talking and also I got to do all this kind
52:37
of stuff. All right, let's see.
52:40
This should take me just a second at this point and voila.
52:48
This is my website. People can check out the oh I
52:52
got actually put it up on the screen.
52:54
Sorry, I'm going to have to make it to where it automatically
52:57
does this for me. Bam.
52:59
Yeah, they will see that. So there's the article or mr.
53:02
Smokey st. And there's the article or in
53:04
mr. Been pie from the drunken
53:06
peasants. So we got both of them.
53:09
I put links out to every single thing that has to do with
53:13
talking about these issues and exposing the evil there.
53:17
And can you see it on the screen?
53:20
Yeah, I can see it. I mean, I'm I think that now
53:23
that this is out that and Ben's doing everything he can to try
53:27
and suppress these allegations, But I'll be very surprised if
53:31
the channel ever mentions you again, because to do.
53:35
So, would risk attracting attention towards these
53:38
allegations Well, good news is I've already contacted some non
53:44
believers as well as some more religious, folks, and everything
53:47
like this. This isn't going away.
53:49
Not going to let people. Just simply bury.
53:52
Women that they've hurt or if there's males who've been hurt
53:55
or abused out there. Anybody for that matter.
53:59
It's just simply not going to go away, people are going to have
54:01
to be held responsible and accountable for this.
54:04
You can't just go traveling across the world, find some
54:08
minor and do things like that. Them that's bullshit.
54:12
Any thoughts on that folks? Yeah, I mean, if that's if
54:16
that's what happened and I agree entirely It's Cindy, would you
54:22
like to talk about some of the things that we've discussed as
54:25
well as our interview or you just kind of chilling today?
54:34
Well, the reason I agree so heartily is because that's what
54:40
can't hold in is trying to do to me.
54:42
He abused the crap out of me, emotionally, spiritually and
54:48
financially physically and he's trying to bury it.
54:55
He's trying to slander my name. He's trying to discredit my
54:59
witness. He has damage My properties.
55:05
It's horrific and he's hiding behind this.
55:10
Christianese Just like what you're describing. so, I
55:16
appreciate it when somebody cares about the victim and helps
55:23
her not get buried I don't know if you guys saw the docu-series
55:30
that came out yesterday by McKinnon Mitchell called the
55:36
weakness of Kent hovind. And at the very end of the
55:42
movie, he dedicated it to creationists.
55:46
Even though he's an atheist, he dedicated it to creationists
55:50
because you said, you're the ones who are going to be Kent,
55:52
opens next victim. You're the ones that he prays on
55:57
your the ones that sell everything and go serve at,
56:00
dinosaur Adventure Land, you're the ones who send him money and
56:05
support the asshole. I see her.
56:13
I'm sorry to hear about that. Having happened to you, Cindy.
56:15
Brett told me that he'd been in contact with the ex-wife, and
56:20
so, I take it. That's yourself.
56:22
Yeah. I mean, I used to the creation
56:29
message, I'm a science major, I'm a teacher.
56:32
I served at dinosaur Adventure Land for five years, with all
56:36
kinds, of love and devotion. I loved the man that I thought
56:40
he was But he's not that man. So I know it feels bad because
56:48
he does a great job, you know, defending the faith sometimes,
56:55
although he's a bad example and other times, but like I was
56:59
telling Brett rabi, Zacharias was the same way.
57:05
Robbie was a great apologist and evangelist and traveled the
57:10
world for Christ. But he raped 17, women and I'm
57:16
sorry, but they shouldn't be buried, either.
57:24
I just, I can't believe some of the excuses.
57:27
I've heard I heard from people in all different sides where
57:31
they're like, oh there's a person brought so many people to
57:34
God, this person will be forgiven by God.
57:38
And I'm like, what about the victims?
57:40
What about the people are hurt. What about the children or the
57:43
miners were getting raped and abused.
57:46
Do you think that they're going to believe that there's a good
57:48
loving God, if people sit by and reward the fucking perp?
57:53
While the the Soon as basically dying in a ditch damn Sunday.
57:59
It's kind of, I don't know what that noise is like, it's all
58:05
good. You guys must be typing on the
58:07
keyboard while that's going on. But yeah, I think it might be
58:12
my, my iPhone because I'm not doing anything.
58:16
Does it go away when I get my mic?
58:20
Mind you, I guess the best thing to do is just to Simply mute it
58:23
whenever it's not doing that cuz it's making like some it's
58:26
going. Yeah if you're I think the best
58:29
the best practice is to click mute while not speaking.
58:32
Let's go. I try to do so these problems
58:34
don't arise but it is tricky. That's a, it's another thing to
58:39
and I brought this up in a video couple days ago.
58:42
I said, you know, the Catholic church.
58:44
It's got in repeated trouble because the child molesters
58:47
within the church and then they either get there, they try to do
58:50
a cover-up because they think it's somehow going to taint.
58:53
God are cause some kind of problem for their church.
58:57
And the only thing I can think of as the only reason they would
58:59
try to cover up such filthy as sends and terrible.
59:02
Deeds, is because they don't want to lose money or finances.
59:06
But their route, they're willing to sell out the victims.
59:09
They're willing to sell people souls in order to not be held
59:13
responsible for it. And this is ridiculous.
59:16
I have to believe that God would want the truth to set everyone
59:20
free at any given time, I have to agree and the fact that they
59:26
are willing to sell out the victims, throw them under the
59:28
bus, slander them lie about them, Robbie did that.
59:32
Also to his very first woman who came out, Against him Lori
59:37
Thompson, he filed a federal lawsuit against her first
59:41
Lander. Basically shut her up.
59:46
She signed a do not discuss agreement with him because she
59:51
couldn't defend herself. So the lengths that they will go
59:56
to shows the depth of their evil.
59:58
They have no conscience even though they're preaching the
1:00:01
word, And you're right. They're defending their image
1:00:06
because they're image equals their income stream.
1:00:11
They have no conscience. I went ahead and remove the
1:00:17
animated background to see if that helps you guys so you don't
1:00:21
lag. Any is that better?
1:00:25
Sounds better. I'm not hearing anything.
1:00:30
Let me make sure that this is a real G-Man G-Man.
1:00:33
Do me a favor. Give me a Fonzie.
1:00:35
Thumbs up, if that's really you. I give me two thumbs up just
1:00:39
like Fonzie so I know it's not a video Loop.
1:00:45
Okay, you gave me the thumbs up. Hey, G-Man.
1:00:48
How you doing? I'm all right.
1:00:50
Give me one second here. I got to turn you off when you
1:00:52
to hold on. All right, okay, here we go.
1:00:57
Okay, I want to talk to some of your guests on here if you don't
1:01:00
mind cuz I've been listening to this for a little bit.
1:01:01
If you don't want to break. Sure.
1:01:03
I'll tell you what I'm going to do G-Man.
1:01:05
I'm gonna go have a smoke, you take over.
1:01:07
All right. All right.
1:01:08
Cool, no problem and I'll tell ya.
1:01:09
Okay, so the young lady or is you still in this room?
1:01:14
Yes, sir. Okay, you said that you said
1:01:16
they can hold in violated you. Violated me.
1:01:22
Yeah. Abuse that fuck out of me.
1:01:25
Okay. And then, you talked about Ravi
1:01:26
Zacharias, right? Yes, sir.
1:01:30
Okay. Where's your proof of this that
1:01:33
get Kent hovind violated you. I have a guilty conviction from
1:01:38
Connecticut County courts that he assaulted me.
1:01:42
Can I see, at least? I think so.
1:01:47
Let me see if it's on my iPhone. I mean, Jay man is will just be
1:01:52
available and as Wikipedia pages of public figure.
1:01:55
All right. I just want to see it.
1:01:59
Did I hear you guys talking about?
1:02:00
I'm talking about my faith and I watched this show, you know,
1:02:04
when I get the chance and That's a No-No.
1:02:07
If you can't prove what you're saying, plus, Captain's not here
1:02:09
to defend himself. I'm not lying sir nor would I
1:02:17
have any motive to do so I loved that.
1:02:19
I heard you talking about the destruction of property.
1:02:22
I heard you say several things in here that a certain group of
1:02:25
atheists on YouTube use on this channel.
1:02:28
I just want to make sure that you're being real and you're not
1:02:30
being fake or anything like that because I'm questioning what I'm
1:02:34
hearing. No.
1:02:37
Yes, I know that and I would really want.
1:02:41
What so so how did he violate it?
1:02:48
How did he violate that? And I answered that and I'm
1:02:55
looking for the guilty verdict in my phone right now and I
1:02:59
think it is on my I think you're going to have to go to my
1:03:02
YouTube channel. Here's a Jules.
1:03:06
I don't have it. Is it what is it?
1:03:10
Jules knows. Best knows all or whatever.
1:03:14
No sir, it's Cindy Lincoln YouTube you sending links Cindy
1:03:19
Lincoln. Okay.
1:03:20
I'll I'll, I'll look it up but but if it's possible and Brett
1:03:24
comes, maybe he can screen share and show what it is that you're
1:03:27
talking about. But what he's guilty of, I know
1:03:29
that Kent hovind went to jail over a money laundering because
1:03:33
he had too much money on him at one time, but Doesn't know
1:03:39
nothing about assaulting. No, no, no lady or no, iPad.
1:03:41
That's why I was there. You should be able to see here,
1:03:45
a screenshot of the Monterey Jack,
1:04:09
Head coaches. So to dino you CDC can do on the
1:04:12
right. Nope.
1:04:15
Doctor down at Dino files appear.
1:04:18
Nope. Okay.
1:04:21
So what is this? I actually do have it in my
1:04:24
iPhone. It's on my screen right now.
1:04:26
I don't know how to share, so, so what exactly did Brett do to
1:04:29
you? I'm sorry.
1:04:29
Not bright that can't do to you. essentially, because one thing
1:04:35
because one of the things I'm learning about you, You must
1:04:40
have froze up or something. He'll be back folks.
1:04:43
I just got back as what's conversation.
1:04:46
Sorry folks, I think he would approve of what I was saying
1:04:52
about Kent and I have the guilty verdict on my screen but I don't
1:04:57
know how to share it. You click share screen at the
1:05:02
bottom and then you can put whatever you want on the screen
1:05:05
there. Yeah.
1:05:06
So again, I don't love the here. Whatwhat can hold an actually
1:05:10
did because that I know what I heard before I came here and not
1:05:14
what you breath it with your guests.
1:05:15
Well, one of them would they said that, you know, we preach
1:05:18
the whole paper. You know, it's all about the
1:05:19
money and everything and what not, and that's a bunch of
1:05:21
malarkey. So what exactly did he do to
1:05:24
you? No, sir.
1:05:25
It's not malarkey. I do.
1:05:27
Yes, it is. I know about the prosperity
1:05:30
pimps, but I'm not, but they can't some other people.
1:05:32
Here are very different. What did he do to you?
1:05:35
Have you ever met him? Have you ever lived with him?
1:05:38
We can't have no reason to live. I have no reason to live with
1:05:41
camp at all. Wasn't volunteering for work for
1:05:44
him, which I've never done Jim and I'm not sure you're
1:05:47
handling. This is appropriately.
1:05:49
As you ought to be given that this is a legitimate.
1:05:52
In fact, convicted domestic violence incident.
1:05:55
Well, there's a lot of people that's convicted of domestic
1:05:57
violence, especially Illinois on social media.
1:06:00
But I also know when things are being exaggerated, and when
1:06:02
things are being taken out of context, that's why I want proof
1:06:05
the same way. You got these people on YouTube
1:06:07
saying, what proof God exists. I can demand proof when a claim
1:06:10
is made against another person. Yeah.
1:06:13
And I appreciate that and I sent you a link, which displays a
1:06:16
link. I saw a newspaper article.
1:06:17
That's it that is a prove me, right?
1:06:19
Yeah. A newspaper article commenting.
1:06:21
On the the time recent conviction.
1:06:25
Okay, conviction. For what?
1:06:26
What did he do? Are you familiar with who Cindy
1:06:30
Lincoln is? Nope, Cindy Lincoln as the
1:06:34
ex-wife of Gmail, I'm not demon but I can tell them sorry about
1:06:37
that ex-wife and she has a YouTube channel where she's got
1:06:41
a lot of videos and stuff with her pointing out her accusations
1:06:46
and perspective on this and showing.
1:06:48
Wait a minute, I'm talking to can opens ex-wife.
1:06:51
Yeah. And why aren't you a question?
1:06:53
She's no mileage impression. He is a Christian G-Man.
1:06:57
Why women? You're a Christian and a
1:06:58
Christian? Why would I marry an evangelist?
1:07:01
If I'm not a Christian. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1:07:03
First of all wait wait, hold on a minute.
1:07:06
So, you're a Christian. And I've been listening for like
1:07:12
the last 20 25 minutes on here. You don't really say anything
1:07:15
positive about Christianity. I don't think she wasn't coming
1:07:18
to on crystianna to Allah, she was commenting on two
1:07:21
individuals, that's where they confuse Ravi, Zacharias and Kent
1:07:24
hovind, right? There's a to two of the best in
1:07:27
the faith and doing what they do.
1:07:29
Can omit very good if she was really married to him regarding
1:07:35
But regarding Evolution and why it's stupid.
1:07:38
And then number two, Ravi Zacharias just in Christian
1:07:40
apologetics in general. May that be that as it may she
1:07:44
wasn't talking about Christianity as a whole.
1:07:46
She was talking about those two individuals.
1:07:48
Instead of I've I've been on here for a while and I'm not
1:07:53
stupid, you know what I mean? So I hear people talking about
1:07:57
other Christians on here in an attempt to attack the faith, I
1:08:01
don't and if she is a Christian, there are there's a certain
1:08:04
ways. You go about doing certain
1:08:06
things, right? Over there because she's moving
1:08:36
her hand around and it's probably rubbing the speaker and
1:08:39
caused them. The less you give me a minute.
1:08:44
Okay, I'll bring I'll bring G-Man up on some of these
1:08:49
things, so he gets a better comprehension.
1:08:52
What's happening? Brian can also assist to the
1:08:56
okay. I know about the drunken
1:08:58
peasants, I heard about that, and I heard about Smoky, saying,
1:09:00
smoking Saints, a jerk. I know about him.
1:09:02
I'm one of the people that speaks out against him and then
1:09:04
there is There's nothing to learning about the peasants,
1:09:07
which I will be using against later.
1:09:09
Yeah, well, Cindy link is a former wife, the one before the
1:09:14
one, he's about the Mary now, and she has a lot of issues and
1:09:18
things she's been talking about, but she also on her same channel
1:09:21
where she talks about what has happened.
1:09:24
Her feelings are in her relationship with can told them.
1:09:27
She also talks about God, and she's got videos where she shows
1:09:31
that she believes that we were intelligently designed by God.
1:09:34
She's On Christian, he's not an atheist.
1:09:37
So why did she say anything that she was saying earlier that
1:09:40
particularly the trolls get on here and say talking about
1:09:42
destroying other people's property and things like that?
1:09:44
Because at first I thought she was a girl called Jules when
1:09:48
YouTube where she just trolls people to death.
1:09:51
That's what I thought she was a because she is convinced she was
1:09:54
living and I know land and she lives her in a property.
1:09:57
Not far from the area. She's made this publicly known
1:10:01
and some of the people that work for Kent are supposed to be Be
1:10:05
fixing up on the property. And instead, they destroyed it.
1:10:09
Her house has rat shed on it and animals and holes in.
1:10:14
It, it's not been they basically from what she has shown on
1:10:18
video. It appears as though people came
1:10:20
in and tore the damn house apart.
1:10:22
She's got it all recorded female, so she's just saying it
1:10:27
from her perspective. She's not trying to like troll
1:10:30
can't or anything like that. Come on to make sure because,
1:10:33
you know how I am, when are people in here?
1:10:35
Talking about Christians on here.
1:10:36
Oh, I know, G, man. And I understand that you
1:10:39
yourself. You deal with people accusing
1:10:41
you of everything, under the sun to.
1:10:43
So, you're going to be very skeptical about any claims that
1:10:47
are made. So, I fully understand where
1:10:49
you're coming from, but I think Brian was trying to help you
1:10:53
because he didn't want you to get yourself into a and and
1:10:56
that's another thing. Brian thing, right?
1:10:58
Brian. Are you still here?
1:11:01
Yes, I am. Okay, so you don't have a hard
1:11:04
stance based on what's going on with the peasants.
1:11:08
A in regards to regarding what breaking was talking about with
1:11:14
these underage girls? I mean, do you condone that kind
1:11:16
of action? Of course not.
1:11:19
Okay, so how do you feel about the peasants doing those kind of
1:11:23
things? Regarding what breaking was
1:11:25
talking about like the I don't want to use the p-word on your
1:11:28
because he can, he can lose monetization, or he can get his
1:11:31
shit. It's the video taken down.
1:11:34
But I'm not getting paid for any of my videos, man, you to think
1:11:44
I was listening, I supposed to use that word on here.
1:11:48
You know, that my apologies I didn't know that either there.
1:11:51
No, no, no, no, you use the word because, you know that the video
1:11:54
can Take it down if you do that. All right, so the bottom line
1:11:58
is, is I heard you and Brett talking about this and I was
1:12:01
like, squeezing my phone and wanting to break it because you
1:12:03
didn't take a hard stance for or against what those drunken
1:12:09
idiots were doing over there on the structure cousins.
1:12:12
What I did is that I made it clear that the allegations that
1:12:16
have been made by the woman involved, there's to make and
1:12:21
for me to go about summarizing it on their behalf, especially
1:12:24
given how Nuance their account of their experiences were, would
1:12:28
be to go about appropriating? What happened to them?
1:12:32
Yeah, something that President Joe Biden would say or some
1:12:34
political person was saying what is your horse stance on it
1:12:36
though, my heart's Dunn's, if it's true, if what happened is
1:12:40
that been raped one or both? Is women then I condemn an
1:12:43
utterly and I think it's die. Disgusting and revolting and he
1:12:46
ought to be condemned prison. I think is important to say,
1:12:49
it's the to say it like that because if you don't, you're
1:12:52
going to leave audience members thinking, like, okay, this guy's
1:12:54
being politically trying to, please find a be friendly with
1:12:57
Brent. And with the peasants, he
1:12:58
doesn't want to be on, you know, on the bad side of either.
1:13:01
One of them me. Personally, I can say whatever I
1:13:03
want about the peasants. I'm still going to get an invite
1:13:05
to go in there right there. One of the reasons why I didn't
1:13:10
rail arm Brian or get onto me. Even though I did feel like it
1:13:13
was a little bit of a soft position is because I understand
1:13:17
that people are afraid. I mean I'm one of the guys that
1:13:20
they have made every attempt possible to dragged through the
1:13:23
mud people have jobs, people have lives have families and
1:13:27
they know that if they step up to the plate they might get a
1:13:31
annihilated at least through social media.
1:13:34
That's I spoke to some of the females and comments who were
1:13:38
violated and they said Brad I don't know, I mean look what
1:13:41
they did. You.
1:13:42
If I come up there and I tell my story, then, what do you think
1:13:45
they'll do to us? Well, the women, I understand
1:13:48
Breyer. I agree with you when it comes
1:13:49
to the women that they got a reason to be afraid or scared,
1:13:52
or whatever, but you know, how it is, like, Mimi and you've
1:13:54
been doing this for a while, so they not in the drug that they
1:13:59
about me, that I can't get them a receipt for, especially with
1:14:01
the new cast. I got with that Billy to fridge
1:14:03
in them. And, and, and the one that used
1:14:05
to wear the masks, they met they know better by now, you know.
1:14:10
All right, here we go here Sunday, Lincoln Nice forehead.
1:14:13
You got there? Sending he got to bring it down.
1:14:17
I'm trying to have the camera off actually.
1:14:21
Oh, stop what I mean. Now that it's on you.
1:14:26
There you go. Okay, I'm looking for my guilty
1:14:30
verdicts. No, you don't gotta show it to
1:14:33
me. I'll take your word for it.
1:14:36
That's Cindy. Why?
1:14:37
You don't know what you did here?
1:14:39
I'll look into it further in my free time Sunday while you were
1:14:42
away. We were me and Brian we're
1:14:44
discussing with him and brief anymore.
1:14:46
Now what what the deal is on that Cindy you're more than
1:14:50
welcome to continue to talk and express your views about some of
1:14:53
the things that you wanted to. I as people know out there.
1:14:57
Whenever I do my shows I allow everyone to tell their side then
1:15:02
is more than welcome to come in here and try to explain to us.
1:15:05
I bet he'll jump Right on that right there.
1:15:08
We find all these people he's hurt and of course any of the
1:15:11
people they've been brought up. He'll Smoky st.
1:15:13
Wants to come in here and call us all a bunch of inwards and
1:15:17
faggots and all that kind of stuff.
1:15:19
Come on and bring it. Smoky world will hear it.
1:15:21
Let's see. My coming here cuz I'm here now.
1:15:25
He might come here because I know your get along.
1:15:27
Do you guys know I had a debate with them about the cussing and
1:15:30
Christians and cussing and when I told him he was treated wrong
1:15:33
for doing it and he got like maybe one or two people to
1:15:36
support them. But who reject the Bible doesn't
1:15:38
condone that kind of that kind of language at all whatsoever
1:15:42
but as far as him and his past and all that I've heard about
1:15:44
it, there's some of the Christians that believe he did
1:15:47
it into. Some of them are not saying
1:15:51
anything about it and it didn't and it's To be because people
1:15:55
are bringing it up to attack him.
1:15:57
The only time I'll get on him about it.
1:15:59
If I hear him trying to come on here and Champion, a cause of
1:16:01
minors. If you try to do that, I'll have
1:16:03
a word or two of them with it, you know what I mean?
1:16:05
I'm like, no, you need to cut that nonsense out, you're a
1:16:06
hypocrite. And this is what you did, just
1:16:08
what you're about. And if you and if you haven't
1:16:10
stopped and if you don't preach against it, then I don't want to
1:16:13
hear it. You know, you man.
1:16:15
You want to see something interesting.
1:16:17
You may not have known about. I know that you've had issues
1:16:20
with mr. Aaron.
1:16:21
Ron the past, right? Hmm.
1:16:24
Look at this. I don't know if you heard about
1:16:26
this but somebody recorded something interesting.
1:16:28
Look at us, watch the screen. So, I'm stoked to be speaking at
1:16:36
the first-ever convention of the satanic temple.
1:16:38
And since this is our first convention and since this is my
1:16:42
coming-out as Satanist, I must open not by speaking to the Fine
1:16:47
people assembled in this room, but to the larger audience of
1:16:51
the tens and tens of thousands, it is surprising that your
1:16:55
worldview depends on such deception and that your mission
1:16:58
literally is to spread those lies.
1:17:06
You have to unmute your mic in order to be able to talk.
1:17:09
How do you feel about that? Do you hear me?
1:17:12
I can. Okay, cool.
1:17:14
So that honestly, that don't surprise me Bret.
1:17:16
There's a YouTube channel that I think you should check out.
1:17:19
It's called Christmas Is A Lie. There's a playlist called the
1:17:23
truth about 80 of them. Did you really need to see that
1:17:26
playlist? I got a totally different way of
1:17:31
defining. What an atheist is that these
1:17:33
days I call them anti Protestant Reformation People designed to
1:17:36
destroy the church. Well, I got to say to Christians
1:17:41
and atheists about hating on Christmas.
1:17:43
I'm not going to stop doing Christmas, I don't care.
1:17:46
I love me some Christmas, the YouTube channel.
1:17:49
Christmas is a lie. I'm not asking you to look at
1:17:53
this stuff with this thing about Christmas.
1:17:55
They have a playlist on the truth about atheism.
1:17:58
Like I learned a lot and I learned about the Cure is in
1:18:01
this poem because I didn't even know where they got the problem
1:18:04
of evil for my life. Oh, all that stuff is on his
1:18:06
YouTube channel. What happened in World War Two
1:18:10
Brett? Let me ask you this, you know,
1:18:11
how they always bragging about, how atheist countries got the
1:18:15
least amount of crime. You know what, they don't tell
1:18:17
you about those so-called atheist countries.
1:18:18
Why is the Catholic Church to State Church of those?
1:18:20
Um, countries? Well, hey G-Man.
1:18:23
When they say things like this, this is what I put up.
1:18:26
What does that say? NAMBLA is founded and run by
1:18:30
atheists. They want to normalize that you
1:18:34
go to a theist countries. Have the highest child porn
1:18:36
Distribution on Earth yet they claim God is evil.
1:18:39
Exactly. Exactly.
1:18:42
Yep. You're the biggest Hypocrites on
1:18:44
the internet as far as I'm concerned.
1:18:47
So, little by little they're they're they're trolling,
1:18:50
they're showing their true self are raw, coming out of the Satan
1:18:52
is doesn't surprise me because anybody that goes around talking
1:18:55
about God old day and ignoring the double, it's eventually
1:18:57
going to make that move anyway. So All right, absolutely hates.
1:19:02
The god of the Bible. I've been saying that about him
1:19:04
for the longest, you could provide gotten come down from
1:19:07
heaven and hold and hold a dead star in his hand.
1:19:10
He will not believe that God exists.
1:19:13
You know? That's rough.
1:19:15
Dawkins app on the tournament to a frog he will still not
1:19:17
believe. He'll blame them.
1:19:18
I'm living in The Matrix and the simulation somewhere or
1:19:21
something. Oh, that's kind of stupid
1:19:23
nonsense. What?
1:19:31
What you got for a Sunday? I hear you order cackling.
1:19:34
She might have enjoyed the amount that he would say that
1:19:42
some of the arguments that they make.
1:19:43
They have a lot of terrible horrible.
1:19:46
Oh, God. They got some horrible arguments
1:19:48
on here on YouTube and then Matt Dillahunty his claim to fame, is
1:19:52
this. I'm not convinced I'm not
1:19:55
convinced and he doesn't understand that they're not
1:19:58
asking us to convince them. They are they're requesting us
1:20:02
to show them evidence. And when we show them evidence,
1:20:05
instead of them saying, okay, evidence for God to God exists,
1:20:09
they just immediately run from saying give me evidence the
1:20:11
saying that, you know, that that that that I'm not convinced
1:20:15
nobody at, nobody tried to convince you, show me?
1:20:17
Do you want to know if I got something in my hand?
1:20:19
Here we goes right here. And a lot of people miss that
1:20:22
when they're talking to these atheists a very slick.
1:20:25
What how they thought to you and how they try to change their
1:20:27
arguments or whatever, you know, Brett was smart when he got out
1:20:31
of it. Right?
1:20:31
Right. Yeah.
1:20:34
I didn't see any rationality to believe in.
1:20:36
I came from nothing or evolved from squirrels and nuts and all
1:20:39
that kind of weird stuff well from Ransom.
1:20:42
Yeah, so that's that's where I studied in people.
1:20:44
Apparently don't like it. Yeah, I had a guy.
1:20:47
I had a guy on one of my shows non-believer.
1:20:50
He was perfectly respectful but he was like Brett.
1:20:54
It makes More sense to believe what I believe.
1:20:56
And I go, what do you believe? How do you believe we got here
1:20:59
and he goes well, there was some some stuff sitting on a granite
1:21:03
rock and it came off the rock into the water and it got hit by
1:21:07
lightning while the Earth was going to some melt them.
1:21:09
I said, so you think that a lightning bolt hit some snot and
1:21:13
the damn water and out came, you probably will move the baboon.
1:21:19
I don't know if I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
1:21:24
You want to know something, Brett, you know, that Bill Gates
1:21:27
is a name is an agnostic atheist, right?
1:21:29
This is why you need to take a look at that.
1:21:30
Plato is because I know what you'll do with it.
1:21:33
Bill Gates said he's doing God's work, but he's supposed to be an
1:21:36
agnostic atheist. 111. Incidentally, do God's work
1:21:43
despite being an agnostic atheist.
1:21:45
Container know if you're an agnostic atheist, you ain't
1:21:48
doing God's work is, you know, believe that God exists.
1:21:50
Well, God's work, for example, maybe to provide charity, those
1:21:54
who were in need. If you were an agnostic atheist
1:21:56
and you were to do that would you know, be doing God's work.
1:21:59
Well, you have to acknowledge his existence to do that because
1:22:03
because if you're saying that you're doing God's work while
1:22:06
claiming to be an agnostic, Is your living a contradictory
1:22:10
lifestyle, you have cognitive, dissonance at that particular
1:22:12
Point. You're you're you're living in
1:22:14
direct contradiction to your quaint.
1:22:17
As one thing that annoys me about atheists they want to go
1:22:19
out and see God is evil and breaking.
1:22:21
Just put a put that little cold up there earlier say o God that
1:22:24
God, you know, wants to kill kids.
1:22:26
He tried to commit genocide in those other stuff.
1:22:28
But let's ignore all of the babies that are being aborted
1:22:30
all the time. You know what I mean?
1:22:31
Come on. It's like it's like you can't do
1:22:34
that. You can't do the same things
1:22:36
that you're saying that God is doing those evil.
1:22:38
Ooh. And then claim that he's even
1:22:39
when you're not see you again. No more arguments.
1:22:44
Brian and G-Man. You guys want to hear an
1:22:46
interesting story real quick? I'll keep it short.
1:22:48
Uh-huh. Yeah of course but then after
1:22:50
that it's very late here and I must go to bed.
1:22:52
And so what L say enclosure is that I've enjoyed this
1:22:55
conversation Brett thank you very much for having me G-Man.
1:22:58
Tony Cindy, lovely to meet you and I hope that all of you have
1:23:02
a wonderful week. Let's have the story nice to
1:23:04
meet you. Nice to meet you, too.
1:23:09
I hope you continue to come to the show.
1:23:10
Brian. You seem like a real good guy.
1:23:12
So, here it goes. There's this little old
1:23:14
Christian woman who she doesn't have a vehicle, she can't drive.
1:23:18
So she goes to her neighbor and says, neighbor, would you be
1:23:20
able to take me to the store? So I can get some groceries?
1:23:24
Well, the neighbor does and they come back to the house.
1:23:27
The neighbor helps the old Christian woman to bring the
1:23:30
groceries in and she says sir would you like to go to church
1:23:33
with me? And he says, ma'am, I'm an
1:23:35
atheist and she goes oh praise God, even God can use atheists
1:23:39
as his instrument. I think there's an important
1:23:42
lesson there. Yep.
1:23:45
Yep. God, can use, anybody?
1:23:47
You can use anybody but Brett. You need to take a look at that
1:23:51
playlist, man. The information on here, I'm
1:23:53
telling you, bro, you'll get be I mean you you giving them a KO
1:23:56
in the past, but I can tell you never seen that playlist.
1:23:59
You gotta see it. I'm like, I got my check it out
1:24:02
to you, man. I appreciate you pointing it out
1:24:04
to me. I'm gonna get on.
1:24:05
Now it even tells you where the Atheist Experience gets their
1:24:08
money. Everything's there, man.
1:24:13
How about this one? For example the pope.
1:24:16
What if I told you that the pope is an atheist?
1:24:20
Well that would be a bit surprising but I'm listening.
1:24:23
Okay. He's the first-ever Jesuit Pope
1:24:28
that's ever been in history of the Catholic church or whatever,
1:24:30
right? But the Jesuits don't believe
1:24:32
that God exists. Go look at the Jesuit post on
1:24:35
Google you can look it up right now.
1:24:37
The Jesuits are teaching atheist how to be atheists.
1:24:42
You got to check it out, man. You got to look at it.
1:24:45
They're educating them on how to do the nothingness, huh?
1:24:49
Yep. Pretty much.
1:24:50
And, and they teach them about the nihilism, they teach them
1:24:53
about how to answer, you scientifically how to, as a
1:24:56
matter of fact, they they use the principles of a player by
1:25:00
basically, never or green with anything that you say in order
1:25:04
for them to eventually believe that God exists.
1:25:07
You know what I mean? You got to take a look at that
1:25:09
channel. Anybody who's an atheist.
1:25:12
I was at playlist. Won't be an atheist.
1:25:14
No more. What's the channel again?
1:25:16
Christmas is a lie. Christmas is a lie.
1:25:20
All right. Okay, Brett, go to the playlist.
1:25:22
Go, don't go to the videos, go to the playlist and then look
1:25:26
for the truth about atheism. All right, I'm getting that
1:25:33
right now. I mean, the damage that you'll
1:25:35
do on his YouTube channel. When you do, what's your take a
1:25:38
look at that playlist is I'm telling you.
1:25:40
It is mind-boggling. So it's got a video about the
1:25:43
pope teaching people atheism, huh?
1:25:46
So is it even better than that? The pope doesn't believe in and
1:25:50
the god of the Bible? None of them did.
1:25:53
Oh man, you gotta check it out. And by definition according to
1:25:58
these online atheist, that would make them in a succes, although
1:26:01
that's kind of stupid but that's what they would be by
1:26:03
definition, according to them. Mmm, Yeah.
1:26:08
Christmas is a line.com. Yeah.
1:26:11
And then you go to playlist and then look for the truth about
1:26:14
atheism. Watch out fat.
1:26:16
That Epicure is nonsense, the Epicurean philosophy gets
1:26:20
destroyed Alright, I see it right there, 2 in the second
1:26:24
row, the truth hidden behind Christmas.
1:26:27
All righty. No, no, no.
1:26:29
Go to the playlist. Well, it's got a big old
1:26:32
category and one of them is the truth about atheism, the mark.
1:26:35
Yeah, the truth about atheism. Yeah, it is like 18 or 19
1:26:37
videos, download that entire playlist if you can, before you
1:26:41
to takes it now is too much good stuff here man.
1:26:45
Alright, I'll be better than a militant atheism Channel that I
1:26:48
know you watch. I'll be right back.
1:26:50
I'm gonna pour me some more coffee, guys.
1:26:51
When talk Cindy is your mic working now.
1:26:54
Hey, before you go. Can you hear me?
1:26:57
Okay. Yes, I just wanted.
1:27:00
I just wanted to say, I think that we probably shouldn't lump
1:27:07
all atheists into one category, that would be like lumping all
1:27:12
Christians into one for something like that.
1:27:19
I agree with you that they should not be lumped into one
1:27:22
category because you got different flavors of it.
1:27:24
You got the militant atheist or strong atheist week atheist or
1:27:27
agnostic, atheist me, I get it. I understand that the point the
1:27:32
point of that playlist is to show its Origins and to show
1:27:38
their real agenda and not what they tell us when we're in the
1:27:41
room with them. I think our problem is
1:27:43
Christians is that we're so focused on preaching the gospel
1:27:47
that we believe. That the people that were
1:27:50
talking to are Towing us the truth and it's a mistake that
1:27:53
I've made is a mistake the other you with me we got to use the
1:27:57
Holy Spirit to be able to discern.
1:28:02
What is being said to us whether or not, there's any truth to it
1:28:05
or not, like I'm like you say, you believe in intelligent
1:28:08
design so you don't believe in evolution Theory or whatever and
1:28:10
that's good. But what if one of them came to
1:28:12
you and asked you you know or said to you that it's God's
1:28:16
fault force in existing Mike? Would you know how to go about
1:28:20
dealing with that? And that's what's great about
1:28:22
that that that playlist because it answers all of that.
1:28:28
Yeah yeah it doesn't matter who's not healthy is you're
1:28:32
talking to it into all that nonsense that they bring up?
1:28:37
I guess there's I don't want to be in an I don't want to
1:28:46
alienate and be an animosity with them, I think you can my
1:28:56
grandma used to say you can catch more flies with honey than
1:29:01
vinegar. You can do that.
1:29:04
But you can, you know, the irony here and and I completely
1:29:09
understand and support where you're coming from Sunday, but
1:29:12
me and G-Man actually used to have this issue.
1:29:14
Where I would say, gee man, you gotta watch out for these
1:29:17
atheist. You got to watch out how meny
1:29:19
orangey men say no. Some of them are really good.
1:29:22
You got to give them a chance, but don't be so rough on a man,
1:29:26
he'd always say that to me, just like you do Sunday and then
1:29:29
G-Man. Unfortunately, he's being
1:29:32
dragged through the mud. Thousands of them now and I
1:29:35
said, I told you so yeah. Well Bret - Bret was warning me
1:29:40
about that. Last time we were on.
1:29:44
Yep. Yeah, soon as they find out that
1:29:47
you're a Christian, they're coming for your faith.
1:29:56
And what I'm saying is totally biblical because, you know,
1:29:59
light and darkness cannot have fellowship with each other as
1:30:01
like, they don't believe, well, they claim that they don't
1:30:04
believe that God exists. That's, I believe something
1:30:06
totally different, but they claim that they don't believe
1:30:09
that God exists. They have a complete opposite
1:30:12
world view, you know, then we then what we do.
1:30:15
And, and, and, and their goal is to deceive people into believing
1:30:21
a lie like on that playlist that I want brackets to look at you
1:30:25
will literally Here Richard Dawkins, I am not exaggerating
1:30:28
when I say this. Richard Dawkins says that the
1:30:31
best way to spread atheism is to lie and to use propaganda.
1:30:37
There's a best tools to spread atheism.
1:30:41
If you watch the playlist, you'll see what I'm talking
1:30:43
about. Could you hear it?
1:30:44
Come out of directly out of their own mouth.
1:30:51
Hello. okay, so I guess it's just me then, all right so for
1:30:57
those of you who are Who are watching right now?
1:31:02
I don't know if you guys can hear me or not.
1:31:10
If you can't see me or hear me, but anyway, yeah, if you go take
1:31:14
a look at that Channel, Christmas Is A Lie.
1:31:15
Go look at the playlist, the truth about atheism, and you'll
1:31:19
be able to see what I'm talking about.
1:31:20
You will hear some really popular atheist saying some
1:31:24
really weird things and one of them is like they're doing God's
1:31:28
work. They don't have anything really
1:31:31
negative or derogatory to say about the Holy Ghost, the Holy
1:31:34
Roman Catholic Church, which I've always thought it was
1:31:36
weird. As a matter of fact, they get
1:31:38
triggered if you'd say anything negative about them.
1:31:44
And obviously Richard Dawkins says that, the best way to
1:31:47
spread atheism is by using propaganda and by lying, which
1:31:51
was very telling to Me because in order for them to tear down a
1:31:55
Christian, will try to destroy a Christian, they got to make
1:31:57
stuff, they got to make stuff up about them in order to get that
1:32:01
done. They can't tell the truth about
1:32:03
them was that they did that band, you know. so, I don't know
1:32:12
how many people can hear me or see me because I don't think
1:32:14
Cindy or break-ins here. Alright, bright, I'll do the
1:32:19
work here. Okay, so yeah, take a look at
1:32:21
Christmases is a live, look at the playlist of truth about
1:32:24
atheism, and you'll find out what they're all about.
1:32:26
And I would appreciate these which is upfront about it, more
1:32:28
respect for him but they they attempt to trick you into
1:32:34
believing. They believe in something
1:32:36
totally different or whatever that that they're not really
1:32:38
that people when you look at them from the lighter.
1:32:41
Rapture. You saw a finding out.
1:32:45
We hear things like on Raw becoming a Satan is honestly
1:32:48
that don't surprise nobody. It doesn't surprise me.
1:32:51
That's for sure because he was a Satanist when he was an atheist
1:32:54
as far as I was concerned. So you want to put that out
1:32:58
there? um, right, you're there.
1:33:06
I'm back here brightly. Who's this?
1:33:13
It's Tony. Tony who Tony stairs?
1:33:18
Are you doing? Are you an atheist?
1:33:20
No. No.
1:33:21
I born again Christians. Okay.
1:33:27
Yeah, I'm back. All right, will tone it down
1:33:33
until the middle of about self. Well, I was raised kind of like
1:33:39
Brett and a Pentecostal home and I didn't really give my life to
1:33:45
Christ until I Was Eighteen and nineteen ninety two, and I was
1:33:50
one of those types of people just to make a long story short,
1:33:55
as my testimony, how I came to Faith.
1:34:00
Like I said, I was raised up in a Christian home.
1:34:04
And my grandmother was ordained licensed Minister.
1:34:09
She was she was like glue, that held the family together.
1:34:13
You know what? All those types of grandparents
1:34:16
and she was really a holy type of person.
1:34:18
Like, you know, like she never wants.
1:34:21
She was a types of really she's always in the the word, every
1:34:25
day you would see her. Like, in the morning, I was
1:34:28
staying over her house 5:00 in the morning.
1:34:31
They're going her room and she's on her and meet her.
1:34:33
Her bed frame to really one of those types of people.
1:34:37
And I remember as a kid, she used to read the Bible with me
1:34:42
and she felt she told me, you know, let me tell you something.
1:34:44
This Bible teaches Holiness without Holiness, no one can see
1:34:48
the Lord, and she instilled upon me all these things, but I
1:34:52
didn't really have a relationship with Christ or say
1:34:58
it was like, if I go to church, I went it was too boring because
1:35:02
I don't see all Older people, right?
1:35:05
And it's like I tell myself, I don't belong here.
1:35:07
I should be hanging out with my friends or something like this
1:35:10
is so boring. I didn't get in till when I was
1:35:14
16 my grandmother had a heart attack, thankfully orzo small,
1:35:20
minor heart attack. and she she she made it through, but when I
1:35:28
came home, we were leaving in the sixth or a condominium where
1:35:31
my mom and my stepfather and I had my own bedroom and I had a
1:35:35
TV and on the side of my bed, there was a Bible and I was
1:35:39
watchin this TV show about Jesus when he was a little child one
1:35:43
of those you know and some I felt led to pick up the Bible
1:35:50
and anyway and I picked it up. You know how what is the old
1:35:55
saying is that when you open the Bible you you kind of the first
1:36:01
Passion Fruit acid, you continue looking into, you know what I'm
1:36:07
saying? Anyway.
1:36:13
What happened after that? I came across the passage of the
1:36:16
blasphemy of the holy spirit. So as I was thinking about this,
1:36:22
is it possible that any human being can actually do this and
1:36:26
never be forgiven, never have any hope at all.
1:36:29
And all of a sudden without even concentrating, without even
1:36:33
thinking I had all these negative and I felt like And I
1:36:43
felt tormented in my mind and this is what I was 16.
1:36:48
And I felt like a Trying to explain.
1:36:53
It's almost like if someone was to open your chest and put a
1:36:57
huge block of ice and snow was cold, empty, lost through it.
1:37:04
And this went on for two years where my mind was constantly
1:37:08
24/7 bombarded with these negative thoughts and we had
1:37:14
finally moved out of their rental different place.
1:37:19
And anyway, I used to open up the closet and they used to take
1:37:24
out all their stuff and I literally took the scripture
1:37:27
literally where he said go into your closet and pray so I did
1:37:30
that and I was so desperate, you know, I was desperate to get the
1:37:34
peace of mind because this is making me like to tears and
1:37:38
their words I'm hearing in my head.
1:37:42
So anyway, long story short, one day I was in my bed and peers
1:37:48
and I said Jesus saved. And as soon as I said that what
1:37:52
I experienced that day, I never experienced before immersing in
1:37:58
my life. I know what it's like to feel
1:38:00
Goosebumps. I know what it's like to have.
1:38:02
Like the breeze win going over your body.
1:38:07
I've been shocked by electricity a couple times.
1:38:09
I love kids. So what I felt was I was laying
1:38:13
in bed. And it was like an invisible
1:38:18
human body was being lowered from the ceiling of my bedroom,
1:38:22
right, above you right into. It wasn't like a breeze, it will
1:38:25
stolid well, it went into me. I felt the head, the shoulders,
1:38:33
the whole body of knowledge. And it's a space women and I was
1:38:37
like my mouth was off. Open always been totally
1:38:40
shocked. This is for real, this is not
1:38:43
the old folks. And so all of a sudden I felt
1:38:51
apartment with thoughts of leave you and I was just overcome with
1:38:55
joy. And ever since then I felt led
1:38:58
to witness the people. I thought I passed out tracks.
1:39:02
I was I was really into a gospel music and I could understand the
1:39:07
scripture better, whereas prior to that and couldn't Right.
1:39:13
Right, right. That's a born-again experience.
1:39:15
Go to church and you're not save this just going through the
1:39:18
motions. But once you come to Christ, you
1:39:22
surrender your born again, it all comes to the holy spirit,
1:39:25
opens up your ears and your eyes and everything.
1:39:27
See the world for what it really is.
1:39:29
And you see Christ who he is too.
1:39:32
Yeah, I will say like again, I was right.
1:39:42
Tony, is there any way you can speak into the microphone?
1:39:45
It's kind of hard to hear you a little bit.
1:39:48
Oh yeah. Sorry.
1:39:51
Yeah. Anyway Being being raised in a
1:39:55
Pentecostal home. I was raised up in the believing
1:40:00
in the Trinity speaking in other tongues Etc.
1:40:04
But after my grandmother died in 1997, I was being led of the
1:40:12
Lord warned for the Old Testament.
1:40:15
And I kind of saw like the one page, I think we should take out
1:40:19
of the Bible, is the Middle where it separates the opening
1:40:24
of the game and its really one book is really think about it.
1:40:30
Yeah, that's separation. Shouldn't be there.
1:40:35
And I started lying that contrary to popular belief.
1:40:40
Yes. We're saved by grace but he's
1:40:43
also said it's love. In other words, we don't we're
1:40:50
not saved by works but would you do those things that pleases God
1:40:59
because you are saying that because you have to know that
1:41:03
not as a workspace. But because you love is like he
1:41:06
said if you love you too. Why do you call me Lord but
1:41:10
don't do what I say. See, I don't know about, I don't
1:41:14
know about the Bible, being one book is a library of books, and
1:41:17
that's important to look at it that way, because you have old
1:41:19
and the New Testament, or old Covenant, and the New Covenant,
1:41:22
because the way, if you see is one book and everything is the
1:41:26
same time, then we have to be doing the same things that are
1:41:29
mentioned in the old Covenant. You know what I mean?
1:41:32
Clearly that's not for today, so situation, that's a good point.
1:41:40
Huh. Yeah, the problem with the
1:41:44
situation, we're not called to keep the old dog.
1:41:48
Yeah. Yes or no.
1:41:51
And this is why what I'm about to say in Deuteronomy, God told
1:41:57
the Israelites, which among them was also people of different
1:42:00
ethnic groups work that drawing themselves to Israel when they
1:42:04
came out of Egypt, God told all of them, both who brew and
1:42:08
non-hebrews that in order to obey these manage these
1:42:12
instructions, really, it's instruction that I'm giving you
1:42:16
today. Do not add and do not subtract.
1:42:20
The problem with the Jewish world is the problem.
1:42:22
We see Yeshua, Jesus is having with the rabbi's and that is
1:42:29
like to add laws. And the problem we Christianity
1:42:34
is elected take away. They've been Nick Nick and pick
1:42:38
what they want to believe, you know, but I don't know about
1:42:44
that. I don't know if I want to get
1:42:47
into a theological discussion with you and I think this is
1:42:51
this your first time hearing about me, sir or see me today?
1:42:55
Four years ago, I haven't really been a long time.
1:43:11
So what I want to say to you, sir, is this first of all, you
1:43:15
know, God bless for your money and everything I want, but There
1:43:24
are different and I put this nicely up, there are different
1:43:33
people out there who teach regarding Grace in the law.
1:43:39
There are some people out there that believe that we're still on
1:43:41
the law today and they believe that the law today is the
1:43:45
Commandments for was I first John chapter 5 verse 3.
1:43:47
It says, for this is the love of God, that we keep his
1:43:50
Commandments and his Commandments are not Grievous.
1:43:52
I don't have an issue. That what I gotta issue is what
1:43:54
the Commandments are. If you're telling people that
1:43:57
you have to keep the Old Testament law, let's say, for
1:43:59
example, the Sabbath day, well, there are laws and they are
1:44:03
bylaws that you have to keep the Hebrew Israelites.
1:44:06
The people that I usually deal with our quick, the total person
1:44:09
and they got to keep the Sabbath day while they work on Saturday.
1:44:13
You know what I mean and then they don't Stone other people
1:44:16
who work on those days, you know?
1:44:18
I mean those are part of the laws to.
1:44:20
So you got to be really specific about what you mean.
1:44:22
When you say obeying his Commandments, I'm specific in a
1:44:25
sense that Christ under the New Covenant commands us to do
1:44:29
certain things and these Commandments are vastly
1:44:32
different than what was said on Sinai.
1:44:36
Yeah, well, if you guys don't mind real quick, I want to throw
1:44:40
something up. It's only like a minute long.
1:44:43
Get you guys a penny and then we'll get back into the
1:44:45
discussion. I've been meaning to do this and
1:44:47
we're getting kind of late into the hour.
1:44:50
Here we go. Are you guys ready?
1:44:51
Yeah. All right check this out there
1:44:53
g-man's probably going to lose it.
1:44:55
When he sees us, here we go. But again we didn't come from
1:44:58
nothing and no scientist believes that we ever came from
1:45:01
absolutely nothing. The Big Bang is not something
1:45:04
from nothing. Even Cosmologists talk about
1:45:07
Universe from essentially nothing, they don't mean, an
1:45:09
absolute philosophical. Nothing.
1:45:11
In fact, they don't think that an absolute nothing is even
1:45:13
possible because every time they try to create a perfect vacuum,
1:45:15
they noticed the quantum fluctuations of subatomic
1:45:18
particles popping in and out of existence where there shouldn't
1:45:20
be anything. Yeah.
1:45:21
As the idea that that could be literally nothing which then
1:45:24
from which something suddenly Springs and when it is very hard
1:45:29
to grasp it and I certainly can't grasp it.
1:45:32
The something from nothing from literally nothing.
1:45:36
That's what really gets people. That's the one that's really
1:45:38
counter to Common Sense and they clearly misunderstand what you
1:45:43
mean by nothing. So it will exactly it start with
1:45:47
absolutely nothing. That means unlike the Cardinal
1:45:50
said and I'm like, some people argue no particles but not even
1:45:56
empty space, no space whatsoever, no space whatsoever
1:46:02
and maybe even no laws governing that space and maybe even no
1:46:05
laws governing. That space.
1:46:06
And Then who did create the heavens and the Earth.
1:46:14
Why do you use the word? Who you see?
1:46:15
You, you immediately beg the question by using the word who
1:46:18
know they had to get created well by a very slow process.
1:46:25
Well how did it start? Megan is how I got started.
1:46:28
We know the kind of event that it must have been, we know, the
1:46:31
sort of event that must have happened for the origin of Life.
1:46:34
What was that? It was the origin of the first
1:46:37
self-replicating molecule. Where I know how did that
1:46:40
happen? I told Don't know.
1:46:43
So you have no idea how it started.
1:46:45
No no, no, no. Is anybody knows?
1:46:47
Anything else? But, isn't that interesting
1:46:51
G-Man, you get out all these want to be scientists atheist
1:46:55
and YouTube who claim to know how we got here, but even
1:46:58
Dawson's themselves as we don't know, nobody knows it's a
1:47:01
faith-based claiming bright. I wasn't surprised when I saw
1:47:03
this before, I came in here. You know, I took a peek at your
1:47:06
channel and I saw that video. It was a YouTube short.
1:47:09
You got several funny ones on here on your YouTube shorts.
1:47:13
But yeah, I think before these guys are getting on YouTube,
1:47:17
bragging off, a bragging about being so smart.
1:47:19
They I don't know what the heck. Nothing is.
1:47:21
I think you know, if you don't know what nothing is you said we
1:47:26
misunderstand what. Nothing means.
1:47:29
He's come on, I'm sorry. Well, we're problem.
1:47:34
The problem. The problem is I think some of
1:47:36
these atheists one. Some of them are uneducated.
1:47:39
They don't know what the hell is being claimed, and the other
1:47:42
ones are deliberately outlying because they know that if they
1:47:45
get into a conversation with me, G-Man yourself for folks like us
1:47:50
and try to tell us that the entire space and time and matter
1:47:54
came into existence from nothing.
1:47:56
We're going to be all over that. There's no way they're going to.
1:47:59
Able to win a debate on that. So what they'll do is they'll
1:48:02
say, Well when Lords cross says nothing well, there might have
1:48:06
been a little pink elephant there, but it definitely wasn't
1:48:08
God. You know, just anything you
1:48:10
could super sad over the idea of God and and talking about that
1:48:15
YouTube channel. Christmas Is Alive.
1:48:17
The playlist. I want you to look at Brett
1:48:18
about the truth about atheism. You got to see how they get the
1:48:22
bunked on that channel because they show you the definition of
1:48:25
what it means to lie. What it means to deceive, what
1:48:28
it what it means to Khan, all of those things are being used at
1:48:31
that point when they're talking to you about the origin of the
1:48:33
universe, you know? I mean they have no idea how the
1:48:36
universe got started, but they want your children understand
1:48:39
that this little tiny little thing, you know, and outer space
1:48:42
is singularity, you know, about the size of a period on the page
1:48:46
got really hot and expand it. You know what I mean, and then
1:48:48
cool down and that's how we got everything.
1:48:51
That's just stupid. That's your dumb.
1:48:54
And then somehow all this material ended up making us in
1:48:57
the squirrels and slow. Was in butterflies, everything
1:49:00
else. It just goes aren't one of the
1:49:03
things that I have heard Cindy. I don't know if you've heard me
1:49:06
talk about this, but they say that.
1:49:09
It's so ridiculous. The idea of some guy 2000 years
1:49:12
ago, resurrecting from the tomb and walking around, yet they'll
1:49:16
tell us that lightning hit water and brought billions of things
1:49:20
and to life almost like that of a resurrection, creating the
1:49:24
very existence of every animal man on Earth.
1:49:27
Seems to me that Jesus. Is not as extraordinary as a
1:49:31
crazy thing they came up with. Yeah, anybody that's got the
1:49:36
guts. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
1:49:39
Now, again, I see a direct tie between the resurrection and the
1:49:44
creation God has the power of life and death in his word.
1:49:50
That's right. I mean that's why he could
1:49:52
resurrect and because he created all things with the word.
1:49:56
Mmm, I got a question for you. Right?
1:50:00
Because I've been posing this question to some atheists on the
1:50:02
internet, and they can't answer this.
1:50:05
Why is it that the Earth has? I mean, this is assuming that
1:50:07
there are other planets out there, but why does the Earth
1:50:12
has one Moon? And why does Jupiter have 16 or
1:50:15
13? Or whatever it is.
1:50:16
He's, you changing it. I have absolutely no clue.
1:50:21
That's actually one of the things that wondered myself why
1:50:24
the universe would be so expansive and large.
1:50:28
Why it is Claim that there's billions of planets to go on
1:50:31
forever. But I can say this, according to
1:50:34
the book of Hebrew, it is mentioned that God created other
1:50:38
worlds. What's he going to do with them?
1:50:40
I don't know. Maybe he's going to put some of
1:50:42
these atheists darn it, I don't know, I don't know.
1:50:45
Glad nobody can I share some cool stuff from the science
1:50:51
center about that? Well they hear it, okay?
1:50:55
If if everything was from an explosion of Same Singularity,
1:51:02
then everything. That that came off of that
1:51:06
explosion shrapnel, right? An explosion makes shrapnel,
1:51:11
everything would be made of the same stuff but all those planets
1:51:16
are so different. There's cold planets, hot
1:51:21
planets, gas planets. Solid planets.
1:51:26
And the other thing is, if everything came from an
1:51:30
explosion, everything would be going the same direction.
1:51:33
But some of those moons you were talking about, some are going
1:51:37
the direction of perhaps, you know, an initial explosion, but
1:51:41
some of them are going backwards.
1:51:43
Mmm. That's true.
1:51:45
That's true. Is that, you know?
1:51:48
Yeah, yeah. Just like even dot Dawson just
1:51:54
admit. On that tip, you played that the
1:51:57
first self-replicating cell. Well, if it's self replicating,
1:52:03
that means it was designed exactly.
1:52:08
It's called me pretty. That's right.
1:52:11
There is two things here to Sunday.
1:52:13
Why is it with all of these alleged billions of planets, the
1:52:17
scientists claim exists. Have we not found one single,
1:52:20
one of these self replicating cells anywhere.
1:52:24
The only place we have life on this Earth, I mean, sure, people
1:52:27
can watch The X-Files that they want to, but fiction, that's
1:52:30
nonsense. The second thing is Cindy you're
1:52:33
going to like, this is goes right along with what you dis
1:52:35
argued about all this uniqueness and space and time.
1:52:39
And all this, if everything came from a source or a singularity
1:52:44
like this, then we'd have to say that the properties that created
1:52:48
everything also created the minds and brains and
1:52:51
Consciousness that exists. If that's Through.
1:52:55
That means that if everything was at one point in time, in one
1:52:58
single place that to should have had a mind to Consciousness as
1:53:02
well. Make it, another argument is
1:53:05
gone, wait a minute. It had its mind blown up and
1:53:15
make Seven billion individual Minds.
1:53:21
Well, it depends on who you listen to harness.
1:53:23
Some people say that there was a violent explosion, other say,
1:53:28
that was simply an expansion of space time and matter.
1:53:30
But remember what I told you about the very definition of
1:53:34
Supernatural, yeah, that's G-Man.
1:53:38
I don't know. Look.
1:53:40
Yeah. Well, anything that Supernatural
1:53:42
cannot be explained scientifically.
1:53:45
You know what I mean? It's for that particular sudsy,
1:53:48
man. And you can use this argument on
1:53:50
them, is that Supernatural, is also anything that transcends
1:53:54
the laws of nature with nature was created.
1:53:57
That means there was a time when the laws of nature didn't exist.
1:54:00
So whatever the singularity is is a very definition of
1:54:03
Supernatural therefore proving that there's some conscious
1:54:07
behind it. There you go.
1:54:08
Exactly. Exactly.
1:54:09
God had that God had to be the one that caused the expansion of
1:54:13
the expansion happened. You know, it always goes back to
1:54:16
that. That's why a lot of them got to
1:54:18
just come back and just say I'm not convinced, I'm not
1:54:21
convinced, I'm not convinced you people still be, you don't know
1:54:24
nothing about science, you know what I mean?
1:54:26
Just ridiculous. You know, big bug isn't part of
1:54:30
evolution. Yeah.
1:54:33
Yeah. Well, rather you oh yeah, I love
1:54:37
it when he come here and see that nonsense because these,
1:54:41
yeah, there's a baby. Yes, they'll say that logical
1:54:45
Evolution but it is evolution. You know what I mean?
1:54:50
And before you can have the primordial soup, you got to have
1:54:54
the what is it? The cosmic Evolution the
1:54:57
chemical and I'm sorry the what is it?
1:54:59
The cosmic Evolution the planet. Already in Stellar Evolution.
1:55:04
And by the time you get you get to earth, you know, when you get
1:55:06
the soup and you get your so-called self-replicating cell,
1:55:09
it has to survive the environment, which they can't
1:55:12
prove it did. But let's say it did, you know,
1:55:15
I mean it's a by over their environment.
1:55:16
How do they know it became a cell for some propagating?
1:55:19
So, you know, it all of it is from nothing to
1:55:24
self-replicating. I mean, that's But you don't
1:55:28
understand what nothing is. That's the problem.
1:55:30
We don't understand what nothing is.
1:55:32
We went wasted our time and go to school.
1:55:33
He didn't know that. Nothing is zero, you know.
1:55:37
Yeah, G-Man and Sunday. The next time you're in a
1:55:40
discussion with unbelievers, the Bible already answers this
1:55:44
question to the T but ask them one simple question.
1:55:49
Can they described and explained in great detail how it is that?
1:55:53
There's even a man and a woman in the first place.
1:55:56
Have them do that. And which one was first, right?
1:56:02
That'll be a good one. Yeah.
1:56:04
Can't brought that to me. I never thought of it that way.
1:56:09
But it's, you know, if I know the, The Atheist Community, if I
1:56:15
leave this show, they'll start clicking the link and come in
1:56:18
here and say, well, did you guys know that genius at this?
1:56:20
And they came and said that. And then, I'll say things about
1:56:23
you Cindy. They'll say things about bright,
1:56:25
and try to cause confusion, So just be ready for if I do.
1:56:27
Leave the show. All right.
1:56:30
Oh, it's all good. Yeah, you know, I have that
1:56:35
verse you were looking for in Acts 15.
1:56:39
I was looking it up. Oh, you're talking about when we
1:56:43
talk about the law? Yes, Acts 15, 1 10 and 20.
1:56:51
It says yeah, it's access point is you're still in here.
1:56:57
I can't remember your name, but it was for you.
1:56:59
Yeah, Tony. Yeah, I just want to say, I
1:57:05
respect everyone's beliefs, you know, where I stand, how do I
1:57:13
put this? I guess you can say I stand, if
1:57:17
any of you are familiar with 119 Ministry.
1:57:21
Or maybe 119. Oh really we getting our
1:57:25
partisan before or after Awakening before?
1:57:28
Yeah, that's what I believe. I basically made them believe
1:57:33
they start going to ask you a question.
1:57:37
You don't I totally get it and I respect that.
1:57:40
No, no, that's alright, and everything.
1:57:42
But let me ask you a question. All right, do you know what a
1:57:45
judaizers Yeah, you know it was a duty are there?
1:57:51
Well, kind of like well what is your father is some it was a
1:57:57
person there's mentioned in the book of Galatians and the book
1:58:00
of Acts as a person is said that unless you obey the law of Moses
1:58:04
you cannot be saved. Okay.
1:58:08
And they taught that you have to be circumcised and the man as a
1:58:10
matter of fact in Acts 15, the one that Cindy was talking
1:58:14
about. It says that unless you are
1:58:16
circumcised in the manner of Moses, then you cannot be saved.
1:58:20
The reason why I mentioned verse 10 is because they had it
1:58:23
because they was saying that. Why are you putting a burden on
1:58:29
us? Putting a burden on the people
1:58:32
that we or our fathers could not keep.
1:58:35
And by the time they went to Jerusalem Council the Jerusalem
1:58:38
Council said, look, the only thing that they can do was
1:58:42
worship idols or, or eat food. That was that they had the blood
1:58:47
in it. You can actually go look at it
1:58:49
for yourself in the Apostle. Paul is rebuking the Believers
1:58:52
in the book of Galatians over this topic because they was
1:58:56
taught that they have to keep the law in order to be saved,
1:59:00
you know what I mean? So, you should really look into
1:59:02
that. I'm not saying that you're a
1:59:04
Judy either. Don't get me wrong.
1:59:05
I'm not Not saying that about you.
1:59:08
I'm just saying that. As soon as I brought up X-15 you
1:59:13
immediately spoke up. So I know some sometimes.
1:59:18
Yeah, they're sorry. Sorry.
1:59:23
Sorry, I don't make you see the recent YouTube link.
1:59:29
Basically, what that is is video from 119 Ministries where they
1:59:34
actually go into this in detail. Explain what this mean?
1:59:39
What they mean by that there as you all know, there was a
1:59:43
gathering in the book of Acts about what the Gentiles coming
1:59:48
to Faith. What they should do, what they
1:59:49
should not do. And they go into detail of what
1:59:52
groups were there. There was no group at all, that
1:59:57
suggests, even suggested in that chapter.
2:00:01
That we should do away with instructions entirely.
2:00:05
Not at all, because even in back then they you'll notice it
2:00:10
references. The Sabbath a lot in the New
2:00:13
Testament, not just in the gospel, in the book of Acts
2:00:16
where almonds, you'll notice that when did the fellowship,
2:00:20
they always say, the Sabbath. They said the first day of the
2:00:26
week. Yeah, but if, when you get the
2:00:31
chance I just suggest check out that video from them.
2:00:36
And the reason is, the reason I share, this is because they
2:00:40
already did the work as far as going to detail about from the
2:00:44
scriptures for me to do it right now.
2:00:46
It would it would take too long. So that's why I can read the
2:00:50
word. I can read the word and you
2:00:54
shouldn't have some human telling you that the word.
2:00:56
Doesn't say what the word says. Here's another problem.
2:01:02
This is something that I share with a lot of people there's
2:01:06
actually three groups of people as we know that believes in the
2:01:09
god of Abraham, right? According to the world view, we
2:01:14
have the Christians, right? We have the Jews and we have the
2:01:19
Muslim, quote unquote, The problem here there is a passage
2:01:25
in I think is Matthew 24. I believe it.
2:01:29
Yeah, it can't remember but Yeshua Jesus talked about what's
2:01:34
going to happen when his return He says on that day I'm sure
2:01:38
you're going to remember this. When I say it, many people will
2:01:43
say to me. Lord Lord, did we not prophesy
2:01:46
in your name, cast out Devils heal the sick.
2:01:48
Raise the dead would always mericle's in your name now.
2:01:53
I say this, we know the Muslims don't use his name to do any of
2:01:57
those things. We know the Jews don't use his
2:02:01
name to do, any of those things who is the only group that uses
2:02:05
his name to perform Miracles and the things that you Jesus just
2:02:10
mention the Christian And Yeshua said, right there, many will say
2:02:15
my name, they do this and that in my name, I will profess to
2:02:19
them, I never knew you depart from me you that practice
2:02:25
lawlessness, bam, right there, plain and simple lawlessness.
2:02:31
You didn't say I condemn you for trying to keep the law.
2:02:34
No, he actually said the opposite.
2:02:37
You do not have S A what are you saying that depart from me.
2:02:41
You that practice law. Snack.
2:02:44
We know what that word means. That's what I do.
2:02:47
We agree on no sir. Okay well I will again I respect
2:02:55
your folks knew you guys you know that but that's where I
2:02:59
stand. I stand with 119 Ministry and
2:03:02
you know Michael Rood and Well, I've heard her, I've heard a
2:03:08
rude awakening Ministries there. This is what I would recommend
2:03:12
you. Do and Cindy.
2:03:13
I don't know if you know this about me and I but I do a
2:03:15
podcast and it's going to start again on.
2:03:19
May the 9th, it's called the G podcast.
2:03:21
And I I deal with this group called the Hebrew Israelites.
2:03:24
I don't know if you ever heard them before, his, the black
2:03:26
people don't walk around believing that they're the real
2:03:27
Jews. Believe.
2:03:29
White people are the devil and all that dumb stuff, they but
2:03:35
yeah, yeah. But on my channel, I go into a
2:03:38
lot of detail over what we're talking about right now.
2:03:41
And I strongly recommend that you catch me on May 9th because
2:03:45
then I can explain then and I'll have the time in the battery
2:03:47
power to be able to explain why we are saved by grace and not by
2:03:50
the Deeds of the law, the book of Galatians chapter 3,
2:03:54
absolutely. Destroys this idea that one
2:03:57
under the law. And so I got some homework for
2:04:00
you. Sir.
2:04:00
If you want to Deuteronomy 28 it tell you that.
2:04:03
If you obey that if you obey all the the law that it was given
2:04:07
that particular data out there would be a blessings out of
2:04:09
follow you, right? And then if you go to verse 18
2:04:12
and to tell you about all these curses that will follow you, if
2:04:14
you don't keep the laws said, you believed that you supposed
2:04:17
to keep the laws. Do you keep all 617 at the laws
2:04:21
mentioned in the Old Testament? Let me just say this, not even
2:04:24
your sure all the long What we call the Torah, there's the
2:04:41
written Torah and then you have the orator the problem with the
2:04:48
oral Torah. According to Deuteronomy, this
2:04:51
is in order to evade his instructions.
2:04:53
You should not ads and that's the problem they had laws.
2:04:57
Okay. What I'm trying to say is that
2:05:02
according to the Commandments that was given on Mountain
2:05:06
Cobell a log. We all know where that is?
2:05:09
I'm sorry. And Saudi Arabia.
2:05:12
It was found. Basically, there are 613 laws,
2:05:19
some laws are for men, only some laws, also women some laws, or
2:05:23
for how you take care of the land.
2:05:26
Because you can't remember, Talking about a people that
2:05:28
lived in a certain geographical location.
2:05:32
They, how do you time sir, Tony. You can't do some but that
2:05:36
microphone. It is a satanic.
2:05:38
Yeah, you know, type, I'm pretty sure you don't tithe.
2:05:41
According to the law, you don't practice the death penalty laws.
2:05:45
You know what? I mean?
2:05:45
There are laws, there are bylaws.
2:05:47
You know what I mean? That must be followed.
2:05:49
That's was mentioned to Deuteronomy chapter 28. if I
2:06:06
don't get to see what you look like,
2:06:27
And I think he can handle some of the wild zoo slugs that we
2:06:31
have to talk to you for a moment.
2:06:53
While you still got a little bit of energy, you guys want to talk
2:06:56
for a second? I think.
2:06:57
He's like a fan. He was out there to screaming
2:06:59
and dancing and clapping his hands.
2:07:01
Everything Hayden. I got to fix your mic.
2:07:03
Do you sound like you're muffled for some reason?
2:07:11
All right. All right.
2:07:14
Oh, that might be it. Yeah, here, just one moment,
2:07:17
please. All right.
2:07:21
Five dollar toll charge there but it's not a little bit better
2:07:25
now, you sound great, you say. Are you ready for the radio?
2:07:28
Like a monkey? Ready to be shot in the space?
2:07:32
Well, I was gonna say G-Man. I've listened to you for a while
2:07:37
now, I've checked into your videos here and there, I
2:07:40
wouldn't call myself like a huge fan or anything like that, but
2:07:42
I've definitely followed on and off.
2:07:45
First things first, I had a question in the, in the comments
2:07:48
there. Do you have a, like best video
2:07:51
in your opinion? What would you say is the best
2:07:54
work you've ever made? If you are, would you consider
2:07:56
all of your Work equally important.
2:07:59
My you have like a video. Yeah.
2:08:00
Like you have a magnum opus in your opinion.
2:08:04
Yeah. A couple of my videos at the
2:08:05
Hebrew Israelites are probably my best ones.
2:08:08
My best to wrap all these, these non-believer
2:08:24
people, like these atheists agnostics that are dragging you.
2:08:27
Through the And whatnot. I'm really sorry if that's
2:08:29
colored your perception of those people over the years but I do
2:08:32
just want to make it clear that. Yes of course there are jerks
2:08:35
out there. There are assholes, there's
2:08:37
going to be people that are going to be really rude, but
2:08:39
that's not all of us, you know, I'm, I'm an agnostic myself, but
2:08:43
I feel like I have a bit more of a nuanced opinion on things.
2:08:46
I'm somebody that would actually want there to be a God that
2:08:49
exists in this world. I really don't want to convert
2:08:52
anybody as far as the faith is concerned.
2:08:55
I honestly view it as a neutral thing.
2:08:57
If You're a Christian, it's really no harm on me at any
2:09:00
point in the day. So I just, I hope that, you
2:09:03
know, you haven't necessarily gotten to the point where your
2:09:05
view and all those people is bad people because we're not.
2:09:09
Well, my view is this. I need to be careful when I'm
2:09:12
dealing with anyone who identifies as being an atheist
2:09:14
of any sort whatsoever. That's what I've learned.
2:09:18
All of them are not obviously militant and all trying to go
2:09:21
out there and kill everybody or try to, you know, take away our
2:09:24
rights in this country. Some people one here so some
2:09:26
people would are atheists Are okay with other religions being
2:09:29
in in the United States. It's just got to be careful when
2:09:32
you're dealing with somebody. That has a differing opinion of
2:09:34
you. That's all.
2:09:36
No fair enough. I've heard you talk a fair bit
2:09:38
about Catholics this episode actually and I've, you know,
2:09:44
it's funny that you mention all of these.
2:09:46
These militant people that wanted to convert you because I
2:09:48
actually had an experience on the other end of the spectrum.
2:09:51
I went to a Catholic school earlier in my life and I was
2:09:55
never, I was never a militant, a Atheist up until for a couple of
2:09:59
years of my life. After when I went there because
2:10:02
I would do nothing but ask questions in class, I would do
2:10:04
nothing but just simply you know just simple theological
2:10:07
questions that the teachers would be was challenging.
2:10:10
And I basically got sat down with the principal and God told
2:10:13
look you got to you got to accept Christ in your heart or
2:10:15
you gotta get out of here basically and I really
2:10:18
negatively colored my my feelings about Christianity in
2:10:21
general. But I would say that over the
2:10:24
years. After that point, I've
2:10:25
definitely gotten a more nuanced with thing.
2:10:27
I've got a question for you, though.
2:10:29
What is your opinions on Eastern Orthodoxy?
2:10:32
Because I've never heard you talk about Point Eastern
2:10:35
Orthodoxy. Yeah, it's just as bad as a
2:10:37
Catholic church. If you ask me, they don't
2:10:41
necessarily let go of the idols. And and if I'm not mistaken, I
2:10:45
think Eastern Orthodox. He's a little older than you
2:10:48
know, Roman Catholic Church. Yeah, they are they worship
2:10:53
idols, just like just won't worship idols, they have Vitals
2:10:57
just like the Roman Catholic Church.
2:10:59
Does you believe that icons are Idols?
2:11:03
Yep. Mmm.
2:11:05
You know what that actually leads into a question that I was
2:11:08
actually really fascinated to ask you about.
2:11:10
Do you believe that asking Saints to pray for?
2:11:14
You has any validity do you don't leave that the Saints?
2:11:16
No. No they can't hear you good,
2:11:18
they're dead. Well, I don't know about that.
2:11:27
Because at the same time, you've got things like here I actually,
2:11:31
I had it ready for Hebrews 12:1, the fact that you are surrounded
2:11:35
at all times by a great cloud of such a great crowd, cloud of
2:11:38
witnesses Angels. It's it's well, that's not
2:11:41
necessarily it. It could be interpreted as
2:11:44
either, or honestly, I don't know Angels really well even if
2:11:50
even if they are not Angels, let's say they are Saints.
2:11:53
Why would you pray to a Human Instead of a god Well, in the
2:11:58
same way that you would ask for somebody to pray for you and any
2:12:01
time of trouble or Strife, it's not a matter of praying to them
2:12:04
and asking them to do things. Like they are God themselves.
2:12:07
Hold on G-Man. Hold on, hold on.
2:12:09
Steamer on down there G-Man. You just similar?
2:12:14
No only one mediator between God and man.
2:12:18
That is the man Christ. Jesus one mediator?
2:12:21
Not, well, not variable and I, did you ever think that have you
2:12:25
ever asked anybody in your life, too?
2:12:27
For you. Yes, I have.
2:12:29
But that doesn't make them a mediator.
2:12:31
That makes them a person who doing intercessory prayer.
2:12:34
That's just it. So, you just hit the nail on the
2:12:36
head, there not mediating for God on your behalf their
2:12:39
interceding for you. For that prayer.
2:12:41
They can't hear you. It appears alive and you asking
2:12:45
to pray for you. That's one thing, but if he's
2:12:47
buried in the ground, he can't hear you.
2:12:50
Only Jesus can because he sits at the right hand of the father,
2:12:54
it's just to clarify. I don't necessarily be sorry.
2:12:57
Go ahead and Sunday, even if they could hear you, they still
2:13:03
are not intercessory. Hmm, it's not the same as asking
2:13:09
a human. I mean a living human to pray
2:13:13
with you. Well and I just want to make it
2:13:17
clear that I don't necessarily, I don't necessarily ascribe to
2:13:22
any of this. I just sorry, Cindy, I'm not
2:13:24
trying to steamroll you. I was just going to put out a
2:13:26
no, no, I think it's way more productive rather than trying to
2:13:30
convert Believers. I think it's way more productive
2:13:34
to try to actually understand the nuances of their belief.
2:13:37
Because if you don't understand the nuances of Christians
2:13:40
beliefs, then you can understand the faith and my personal
2:13:43
opinion, and you can't really necessarily Really reject.
2:13:45
Any religion without first properly understanding, what
2:13:48
they actually believe in. And I think that's one of the
2:13:50
biggest problems in the atheist Community is the fact that
2:13:53
there's so many people out there.
2:13:55
They never read the Bible, they never actually.
2:13:57
Look at any of the teachings of Christ or anything like that.
2:14:00
They just have reactions in their personal lives, myself
2:14:03
included earlier in my life. But they just, they have these
2:14:05
negative experiences and they let that color their entire view
2:14:08
of Christianity. And I think that's really
2:14:10
counterproductive and I think it really loses out on a lot of
2:14:14
interesting discussions that people could have, but I guess
2:14:17
not all atheists are necessarily interested in having those
2:14:20
discussions. No, they're not eating their
2:14:24
minds are made up. A lot of their minds are just
2:14:26
made up its really sad, you know, like I've talked before
2:14:31
with Brett and Cindy and it's a matter of like I really hope
2:14:35
that there's a God up there. I really hope that there is a
2:14:38
savior of all of humanity and that he would have been fact
2:14:41
died for our sins. I just haven't necessarily seen
2:14:43
that evidence yet in my own life and I know that of course, faith
2:14:47
is a huge component of that and I'm not necessarily just going
2:14:50
to immediately. They get a direct Revelation to
2:14:53
me, but I really, I don't think it's necessarily A logical for
2:14:57
me to go. I hope that that's the case.
2:14:59
I hope I could get a revelation in my life where you know
2:15:02
Christ. I'm gonna pray that you do.
2:15:05
Yeah, well, I appreciate that Cindy, I appreciate that.
2:15:08
But I never necessarily heard you're.
2:15:13
You're coming to Jesus story. G-Men, I don't think I ever
2:15:16
recall you in the times that I've listened to you.
2:15:19
What is your York? Inversion story.
2:15:22
If you always grown up in the faith or did you come around to
2:15:24
it later in life? No, I got shaved.
2:15:28
I'm sorry, that is my fiance. Oh, okay.
2:15:30
All right, I've got the headphones.
2:15:34
I can hear you, sorry. Yeah, she's like the Saints.
2:15:38
She can't hear you. I'll give you a short condensed
2:15:40
version in the year. 1999, December 1999.
2:15:46
I was a network marketing. My I wanted my brother that you
2:15:51
A network marketing company that I was then and just give you a
2:15:55
little back story. I read the book of Revelation
2:15:57
before I didn't understand it. I just all I read was about this
2:16:00
monster coming out of the water and people getting marked and
2:16:03
all these devastations are going to happen.
2:16:05
So, I have some idea about, you know, what was in the Book of
2:16:08
Revelation, but in 1999 around December, people was predicting
2:16:12
that Christ is going to return. So I had a lot of people,
2:16:14
preaching, the gospel to me and my I made a deal with my brother
2:16:19
because I was trying to get him into the network marketing.
2:16:21
And I told him that I will watch one of his like religious videos
2:16:24
or whatever one of his Christian videos or whatever.
2:16:26
If he would watch a network marketing video.
2:16:28
Today he watched network marketing video said he didn't
2:16:31
want to be involved and then I watched his video and I got
2:16:35
convicted because I because of what I read in the Book of
2:16:38
Revelation and that's when I accepted Christ as my savior,
2:16:42
that's the short condensed version.
2:16:43
There's a much longer version to that one.
2:16:46
I'm sure. But you know what, like you said
2:16:48
you don't have a heck of a lot of battery on your phone.
2:16:50
So yeah. It's Sent now you gotta put on
2:16:53
power saving mode G-Man. Gotta try to last make it last,
2:16:56
you know but you know what, with you being an agnostic atheist,
2:16:59
do that means that you, you know, that you don't believe
2:17:04
that we can know whether or not God exists, right?
2:17:07
It's not necessarily that. I don't believe that we can't
2:17:10
know whether or not God exists. I just don't have any
2:17:13
particularly strong evidence laid out to me at this point in
2:17:16
time that God is. In fact a being that does exist.
2:17:20
That doesn't mean that I can't accept that evidence.
2:17:23
If it were sufficiently there, it's just I haven't had that
2:17:25
presented to me as of yet. Okay.
2:17:27
So then this is what I would recommend for you.
2:17:30
I would look at something besides the pissed of ism.
2:17:33
If you don't know what that is, that's people that don't take
2:17:35
things on faith, they want evidence for everything.
2:17:39
What I would recommend you do is to take a look at Christian
2:17:42
faith. Not blind, faith is a big
2:17:44
difference. Look at Christian faith.
2:17:46
And look at how we go about believing in the god of Abraham,
2:17:50
Isaac, and Jacob. Our Lord and our Savior Jesus
2:17:52
Christ. And the number two, you need to
2:17:55
take a look at intelligent design.
2:17:59
See it way better than Evolution playing and necessarily agree
2:18:03
with that G-Man. I'm sorry, I can't.
2:18:05
If I had the battery here, I would have little rate
2:18:08
Evolution. I know, Cindy can do it because
2:18:10
who she was married to and I would show you super quick.
2:18:13
Let me ask you a question just to prove my point now, sure, how
2:18:15
many of you got faith? I'll prove you got there.
2:18:18
Can you give me? Can you explain to me?
2:18:20
Scientifically speaking how you getting new, Anatomy Miranda,
2:18:24
mutations, How are you would get new Anatomy for mutations?
2:18:28
Random mutations. How are you going to Anatomy
2:18:30
from random mutations? I know I think mutations work.
2:18:32
So how do you get new Anatomy from that?
2:18:34
That wasn't that wasn't? That wasn't there before in the
2:18:37
same, observable way that we can see people born with deformities
2:18:41
and the same way that we can observe lessee people born with
2:18:44
a lot of negative things. There is talk about deformities.
2:18:47
You're talking about somebody born with a, with an extra
2:18:50
finger or somebody born with extra sexual organ.
2:18:55
Right. Knowing that information that
2:18:57
information was already there. Well, I'm talking about brand
2:19:00
new information that wasn't there.
2:19:02
Yes, I know, I know, just let me like, that's all yes.
2:19:15
There would have to be some kind of series of mutations over time
2:19:19
that would slowly allow something like that to be
2:19:21
propagated. But that would only come about
2:19:23
if there was pressures within the environment that would
2:19:26
produce something like that because the only way that
2:19:28
Evolution can propagate long-term in terms of mutations
2:19:32
is whether or not those mutations are beneficial to the
2:19:34
species because if they're not beneficial to the species, most
2:19:38
of the time, those - mutations will not allow those species to
2:19:41
propagate. Yes, our ego.
2:19:42
Hold on, hold on, hold on. I must interrupt you because no
2:19:47
questions only up in from the gene code.
2:19:50
And yes, I have the gene for wings.
2:19:53
No amount of mutations is going to give you the Improving
2:19:55
things. Well we've already observed that
2:19:59
genes can fundamentally alter you with things like cancer that
2:20:02
did not exist within you whatsoever.
2:20:03
There is no prior records of any kind of cancer cells existing in
2:20:07
your body. Before your body develops, the
2:20:09
mutations that allow things like cancer to occur and that is one
2:20:12
of the examples of - different. Yeah.
2:20:16
Of course, they are. But I'm saying what I'm saying
2:20:18
is that it's an example of a gravitation that creates
2:20:22
something that was not there before.
2:20:25
And isn't Irish and a battery left.
2:20:27
I got friends in a battery life. I got a question for you.
2:20:29
Yeah. Okay.
2:20:30
Polar bears apparently adapted to their environment, right?
2:20:34
Yes. Okay, Kitt.
2:20:36
Can you do me a favor and explain when or polar bear
2:20:40
existed with a didn't have to adapt to their environment.
2:20:44
A polar bear existed where they didn't have to adapt to their
2:20:47
environment? Yeah it was went in the time.
2:20:50
They were flying cats you know what you're right.
2:20:54
I actually Dominique that he made my argument.
2:20:57
Is that a lie? No, my argument is this
2:20:59
intelligent design, says that these animals were what were
2:21:02
created to be able to were created for that specific
2:21:05
environment. Yeah, right.
2:21:07
We can see but but I'm sorry, one second that these animals
2:21:11
were created for that specific environment, right in that, it
2:21:14
any time you see an animal that animals already made to adapt to
2:21:17
that specific environment, right.
2:21:20
The burden on the evolutionist is to be able to show how how
2:21:24
the animal Was never able to adapt to that environment if you
2:21:28
can do that, then it's a favor not science.
2:21:32
That's my batteries on 2%, we have the ability to heal
2:21:49
themselves. We have the ability to heal
2:21:53
ourselves. Thanks to the fact that Cells.
2:21:55
When damaged in this, is something that can be observed
2:21:58
in a laboratory setting when they're damaged.
2:22:01
It is something that will the 1%, but I gotta pee, man.
2:22:06
It was really nice talking to you.
2:22:07
All right, next time being ma'am, I do shows on Wednesday
2:22:10
and a penny. Come on.
2:22:12
Thank you guys. Nice to meet you too.
2:22:15
I'll talk to you guys later. Yeah, cool.
2:22:17
Thank you again later, if when cells are damaged, when the
2:22:23
materials that make up sells They are damaged, they will
2:22:26
slowly begin to repair themselves because they are able
2:22:29
to detect whether or not damage has occurred to them to things
2:22:32
like their cell walls, to their cell.
2:22:34
Membranes the a nuclear sub, the cell is something that is
2:22:38
capable. It's a capable of detecting
2:22:40
whether or not, this is occurred.
2:22:41
And this goes back to the mutations.
2:22:43
That we talked about the last time I was on here, which is
2:22:46
related to pain. Now, it's not necessarily the
2:22:49
case. I'm firmly of the belief that
2:22:51
before things like paying eventually evolved to be things
2:22:54
that System that cells were not capable of healing themselves
2:22:58
because they didn't know that they were damaged, their didn't
2:23:01
know, in any way, shape, or form that something had happened to
2:23:03
them, because they didn't have the ability to do that, but when
2:23:06
pain was mutated into the cell, when it's something occurred to
2:23:10
it, where a random mutation occurred, and that evolution of
2:23:13
pain happened, it was an advantage to it because it was
2:23:16
able to see that it was damaged and it was able to begin to take
2:23:19
action in order to help itself be repaired.
2:23:22
We can see that in the sorry. Go ahead.
2:23:24
I'm sorry. What is if you don't mind?
2:23:27
Because I noticed when I I'm not saying that you're you're trying
2:23:31
to be dishonest or any kind of way.
2:23:33
I'm just pointing out that. Yeah again this is the horse and
2:23:36
the carriage and number two, you're saying, mutation mutation
2:23:40
mutation would you be able to explain what this mutation was?
2:23:45
The original one that started the healing process?
2:23:48
What is it called? I can't necessarily and I will
2:23:51
totally admit to you right now. I do not know the Evolutionary
2:23:57
term that involves the ability for a cell to heal itself.
2:24:01
I would be able to look into that.
2:24:02
After we're done the show, I don't want to get all distracted
2:24:04
doing research in the middle of or I understand what about the
2:24:08
very process so that causes the mutation to select this ability
2:24:13
to do healing in the first place.
2:24:15
What is the mechanism called the mechanism?
2:24:18
The mechanisms whereby mutations happen are the fact that over
2:24:22
time genetic code is It loses its total amount of information
2:24:28
as far as its consistency is concerned as cells.
2:24:31
Copy themselves to processes like mitosis the more copying
2:24:35
occurs. The more errors will slowly
2:24:37
begin to present themselves every time because the more that
2:24:40
a cell has copied, the less original information, it can
2:24:43
retain. This is the main process what
2:24:45
via things, like aging occur. So even though healing can
2:24:49
happen on a small scale unless you're talking about very
2:24:52
specific beings. Like there are certain species
2:24:54
of Lon stirs that we've been able to find that more or less
2:24:57
have been able to counteract the aging process.
2:25:00
They have a cell within themselves and I'd once again,
2:25:03
I'm going to be completely honest.
2:25:04
I don't know the specific name of it off, the top of my head, I
2:25:06
need to do some research on this, but they have a mechanism
2:25:10
within their cells. That doesn't necessarily
2:25:13
eliminate the errors that are present within mutations, but
2:25:17
minimizes them to such an effect where they can live for
2:25:20
basically centuries. Well, I was very I was reading a
2:25:24
science article When looking off and on about this, for the last
2:25:27
couple of years, apparently, they're doing a study on rats
2:25:30
and mice. I don't know if you heard of
2:25:31
this Sunday but they apparently believed that they had
2:25:35
discovered the Aging Jean, I think is what they refer to it
2:25:38
as and if they can manipulate it or do something with it, it's
2:25:42
very possible. We can have the people living
2:25:44
for a longer time. You'll still be affected by
2:25:47
genetic entropy, but they could live longer because it'll take
2:25:52
longer for the structures and processes to go through.
2:25:55
That'd be pretty neat. Oh absolutely, I guess and to a
2:25:59
certain extent you don't you don't want to have, you don't
2:26:04
want to have aging reverse know. I don't necessarily reverse, but
2:26:07
halting that attracts you see. But that's just the thing.
2:26:10
In my personal opinion, I think that the ultimate Freedom that
2:26:16
any person can attain is for death to be a choice, not a
2:26:19
necessity, I think that death is something that is so incredibly
2:26:23
tragic for the human race. It is The only illness that
2:26:26
affects one hundred percent of the population, no matter who
2:26:29
you are, no matter how healthy you are.
2:26:31
I think that the ultimate Liberty that any human being
2:26:35
would be capable of creating for themselves is liberating
2:26:39
themselves from a death that they don't want.
2:26:41
And really, I really do hope that aging can be something that
2:26:44
is eventually cured, because that's really what aging is, is
2:26:47
it's an illness. It's something that slowly wears
2:26:50
you down at something, that's slowly makes you more feeble.
2:26:53
Makes me more week makes you less.
2:26:55
Capable of doing things. Makes you prone to things like
2:26:58
Alzheimer's, which can destroy your mind which can make you
2:27:01
completely unable to comprehend what's going on around you.
2:27:05
I think if we can cure things like this, I think that would be
2:27:09
arguably. The biggest advance of humanity
2:27:11
would ever be pick capable of doing now.
2:27:14
Do you guys think that is something that we could ever do?
2:27:16
Do you think aging could ever be something that could be halted
2:27:18
or even possibly reversed? I'm gonna say something.
2:27:21
That'll probably shocked the hell out of the Aiden, but I
2:27:24
believe that it may Already be possible that this may already
2:27:28
be a thing. But I am also convinced that our
2:27:31
this is going to be really dark for me to say this.
2:27:34
But I believe that our government would probably
2:27:36
handout beneficial things to the elite and the wreck, and they
2:27:40
know they'd probably let the because they're always
2:27:44
constantly babbling about population issues and all this.
2:27:48
So I don't see them, having a problem with getting rid of the
2:27:50
little guy, see your bright cane, you're a useless, son of a
2:27:53
gun. To believe that if we had a
2:27:56
Shepherd or something and a meteorite were coming, it was
2:27:59
going to end the world and the elites had a place to go.
2:28:02
They leave us in a heartbeat. They wouldn't even give us a
2:28:05
wave goodbye. Oh you know you're absolutely
2:28:07
right. I've history has shown us over
2:28:10
and over again that if there's a Calamity that's going to happen
2:28:14
and if any kind of power knows that these things are going to
2:28:16
happen that a they keep it from the population to prevent mass
2:28:20
panic to prevent mass destruction.
2:28:22
Be they hoard as many resources that they possibly Billy can for
2:28:26
themselves and then make a quick getaway with everything that
2:28:28
they possibly can. So you're right if we knew that
2:28:31
a meteorite was going to hit us in a year, you're damn right.
2:28:35
That all of the top Minds in the world would be pouring all their
2:28:38
money into any kind of interplanetary travel that they
2:28:41
could. Any kind of like ARCA like ship
2:28:44
which could somewhat sustain itself over time but I don't
2:28:48
know. I guess it's go ahead Sunday.
2:28:53
Go ahead. Death was instituted by God.
2:29:00
It was a curse from sin and it accomplishes two things.
2:29:09
It makes you realize that ultimately you will meet your
2:29:13
maker so that you can get ready for that and not just live on
2:29:16
your Merry way as though there are no consequences and it also
2:29:22
puts an end to sin. We were allowed to live forever
2:29:30
in our current sinful status. Then send would never, we would
2:29:37
never be relieved of it. Well, we die then we are going
2:29:43
to Have no more sin if we're Christian and we're going to be
2:29:51
going to a new Heaven and a new Earth where it will be just like
2:29:55
the Garden of Eden again. Well Cindy, I completely
2:30:00
understand what you're saying and I could see how some
2:30:02
Christians would think that something like this a Sion a
2:30:05
revolutionary scientific Gene agent deal might fly in the face
2:30:10
of death and sending the world with God but it's not making you
2:30:14
invincible, it's not likely. Going to be Superman if we get
2:30:18
hit by a car and you know we explode.
2:30:21
Yeah somebody runs us over and breaks her neck.
2:30:25
It's not like it's going to go did it in like go.
2:30:29
Okay so I misunderstood I so you're just talking to a sickly
2:30:34
about a great healing thing. God does whatever broken an
2:30:38
expansion of our age. We where we might get 100 to a
2:30:42
couple hundred more years on this.
2:30:44
But we're still going to die because Yeah, genetic entropy.
2:30:47
There's no way to make us Invincible, unless we figure out
2:30:51
a way to digitize herself, but ourselves and some kind of
2:30:54
simulation something like that. Some people would argue we might
2:30:58
be in a simulation. Wow.
2:31:01
Have you ever heard the argument for simulation Theory, brat in
2:31:04
the sense that I have from atheist?
2:31:07
As well as religious people, and I have to admit, it's some fine
2:31:10
arguments. Yeah, it's the one that I've
2:31:14
heard that's most compelling to me.
2:31:16
Les is the fact that if we were ever able to and obviously, we
2:31:19
can't right now, but if we were ever able to amass the
2:31:22
computational power, maybe through things, like Quantum
2:31:25
Computing, to be able to create our universe on a one-to-one
2:31:30
scale, and to be able to create the physics within it.
2:31:32
If we were able to prove that, that was something that we were
2:31:34
capable of doing then, that means that statistically it is
2:31:38
far more likely that we are already in one of those
2:31:40
simulations, then we are not. And there are plenty of things
2:31:43
within our universe, that can possibly indicate.
2:31:46
That we are in a simulation such as the fact that the Universe
2:31:49
has a hard speed limit to it, that cannot be exceeded such as
2:31:52
the fact that things like the Planck length exist.
2:31:54
Which means that there is in fact, a barrier to how small
2:31:57
things can get and a barrier to how small that things can be
2:32:01
before. They can't touch the fact that
2:32:03
nothing in the universe by a things like the atomic
2:32:06
structures that make us up. Cannot touch like yeah, you can
2:32:09
touch, you can touch your table right now, you can touch your
2:32:12
couch, you can touch anything right now and you feel the
2:32:14
sensation of touch. But the atoms that make up your
2:32:17
body in the atoms that make up that chair or that desk, they
2:32:20
never actually truly interact with one another.
2:32:23
So there's certain things that maybe indicate that the universe
2:32:27
is a simulation, but I can't ever actually definitively say,
2:32:30
whether or not it is because there'd be no way to know.
2:32:33
Yeah, that's play. If we go along with the idea
2:32:35
that there's a developer and a designer, there's some form of
2:32:38
wiring and programming. And even those who believe in
2:32:41
evolution believe that we've been hardwired with instincts
2:32:45
and all kinds of Different things.
2:32:47
Both sides seem to agree that there's some kind of system
2:32:50
layers aren't systems. We got a guy out here.
2:32:53
He says I used to think the way you you do, Brett about the
2:32:58
elite but I found out the Bible says the rich rule over the poor
2:33:02
awesome part is we can be an elite with hard work and
2:33:05
dedication. I don't know if I believe that
2:33:07
that sounds very optimistic, that sounds beautiful, but I
2:33:11
know plenty of young people who are in damn near a debt for the
2:33:14
rest of their life. Trying, Get in the universities
2:33:17
and colleges older people who busted their ass broke their
2:33:20
back, all their life, and they don't seem to have any more.
2:33:25
So I don't know if I believe that II.
2:33:27
Don't know if I believe that someone got does their best, did
2:33:31
you know, statistically Aiden, the sociopaths and Psychopaths
2:33:35
seem to have a higher chance and probability of success in
2:33:40
corporations and politics than a person like ourselves who has a
2:33:44
fucking consciousness. You know what, I'm actually a
2:33:47
liar's. It's funny that you brought that
2:33:50
up because honestly one of the biggest things that's beginning
2:33:54
to dissuade me from doing this business degree that I'm
2:33:57
currently pursuing business. Administration is the fact that
2:34:01
there's just so many people in the industry not only within the
2:34:04
industry but in the text books that I'm reading right now and
2:34:07
in all of these texts, just endlessly talking about how to
2:34:11
exploit people for the least amount of money possible.
2:34:13
How to get the most money out of people while In the least amount
2:34:16
of money possible and it just it doesn't jive with my morals on
2:34:21
any level whatsoever, you know, one one hand.
2:34:24
Yeah, it would be a really secure job.
2:34:26
It would be a really secure position if I were to get a
2:34:29
business degree. However a it's not something
2:34:32
that I'm passionate about and be, it's really, it's not
2:34:37
something I could morally abide by necessarily either, but the
2:34:40
problem is that the thing that I am passionate about, which is
2:34:43
history and anthropology there's such Such a narrow field of work
2:34:48
for that these days which is really such a tragedy to me
2:34:52
because I had a really good discussion with my fiance
2:34:55
earlier than the day and it basically went that if we lived
2:34:58
in essentially any other age besides right now then history
2:35:03
would be something that wouldn't be viewed as a hobby.
2:35:05
It would be viewed as a legitimate field of study that
2:35:08
you would be able to reliably get into and reliably get a good
2:35:11
job on but it seems more and more.
2:35:13
Nowadays history is just viewed as like I Thing just a hobby
2:35:17
that you might study in your spare time and that's such a
2:35:20
tragedy to me. Because history is such an
2:35:23
important aspect of human existence.
2:35:25
It's such an important. It's are so varied and send the.
2:35:32
I don't know if you see this person's comment here.
2:35:34
They say, if you've ever killed an animal, you know, it's not a
2:35:37
simulation. I don't see how that would be
2:35:39
able to go against the simulation, probably.
2:35:42
Because you think there's going to be grieving, the animal will
2:35:45
moan. Own.
2:35:46
It will give the responses of stimuli and pain, right?
2:35:49
Well, if you got a good developer good to gain
2:35:52
developer, they can make it appear as though an animal or
2:35:55
thing or NPC is in pain, when you hit it shoot it and it will
2:35:59
respond as such. Yeah, you're the script.
2:36:02
There's there's some really visceral games out there, that
2:36:05
can really display that there's this, he'll let loose game
2:36:08
actually. Have you heard about that at
2:36:10
all? Brett, how let loose?
2:36:11
No, but I played me some Fallout.
2:36:13
I'm still trying to figure out how it is in a Your game.
2:36:16
When I shoot somebody's head off, they're still screaming
2:36:20
appears to be a physics thing. I don't know if they could have
2:36:25
a little bit of a hard time when they don't have a mouth to
2:36:27
scream with anymore but hey, whatever, I'm not a scientist it
2:36:31
rough game, it's rough game object sure say hey, go ahead
2:36:36
Sunday. I'm still thinking about two
2:36:40
things that you said that I want to tie together.
2:36:44
You said, how important Written history is and you said that
2:36:48
nobody had been able to present you with evidence of God yet.
2:36:53
And when you said that, I wanted to ask you, if you had ever
2:36:57
watched William Lane Craig, I have mean Craig.
2:37:05
Oh God. What is he known for?
2:37:07
I know that name. He likes to use the Kalam
2:37:10
argument, if I'm not mistaken, he is a historian.
2:37:17
But I ya know, what an amazing lecture that he gave on the
2:37:24
historical proof of the Resurrection.
2:37:28
Hmm, see and that's one of those things is that like as far as
2:37:34
the historicity of Jesus is concerned as far as his life.
2:37:38
I don't deny that. There's a lot of atheists out
2:37:40
there that say that there is insufficient evidence of
2:37:42
Christ's existence, but they're absolutely is.
2:37:45
If you look in the right places, there is absolutely
2:37:47
documentation, not only of his life, but of his crucifixion of
2:37:52
his trial, with pilot, there is a wide variety of evidence that
2:37:56
backs up that Jesus was in fact, The real figure that did exist
2:38:00
and did, in fact, do the things that he did throughout history,
2:38:03
otherwise, you wouldn't have had such a huge impact across the
2:38:06
world over a over, such a long period of time.
2:38:09
I've got a question for you Brett.
2:38:12
I don't know if you're different with than G-Man on this deep.
2:38:15
What is your opinion on things like icons images of Christ or
2:38:19
images of the Saints or anything like that?
2:38:21
Do you think that if people venerate those that that's the
2:38:24
same as worship? Well, I as far as I think that
2:38:29
what he was trying to say, is when people get to a point where
2:38:32
they worship for, they go to the dead and then idol worship
2:38:36
obviously idol worship some problem.
2:38:39
I don't see how we could actually I find it strange.
2:38:42
How Mormons believe some groups of them believe that you can
2:38:46
baptize a corpse and somehow Eva redeem a person.
2:38:51
I also do not understand the baptism of a baby because as far
2:38:56
as I am a noob will need Cindy because she's a professional
2:38:59
here, but it seems to me that you have to say certain things
2:39:03
and you also have to consciously accept Christ and what he did
2:39:06
for you and the baby can't do that, nor can a corpse now,
2:39:10
you're absolutely right eye. As far as that's concerned, it's
2:39:15
always been a bit of a sticking point to me.
2:39:17
Because on one end it seems like the unbaptized at the very
2:39:23
least, go to somewhere like limbo or Purgatory, whether or
2:39:26
not you would personally ascribe to that.
2:39:28
There's some things that the ology that say it's real.
2:39:30
There's some things with geology that's say that it isn't, but it
2:39:33
seems as though that baptism is a requirement in order to get
2:39:39
into the kingdom of heaven and I can understand on one end that
2:39:43
If people really do want their children to get in no matter
2:39:46
what than they would want to immerse them in the water as
2:39:49
soon as possible. However, on the other end,
2:39:52
you're absolutely right. They don't have a conscious
2:39:54
decision in it. They can accept Christ into
2:39:56
their hearts necessarily because they don't have the, the mental
2:39:59
capacity to really understand that point in their lives.
2:40:02
What any of this is? So, I don't know.
2:40:05
It's always been a really big sticking point for me.
2:40:11
I agree with you. We got somebody out here saying
2:40:14
are you saying someone on, right?
2:40:16
It also drop this information out of nowhere and then days,
2:40:19
later you have shorts and full broadcast, reminding people the
2:40:23
event. Well, as I said, in the show to
2:40:26
this TQ QWERTY, this apparently has been going on for a year or
2:40:32
more Aiden, those because he actually left the comments or in
2:40:35
some of these videos. I noticed you were very
2:40:37
supportive and trying to help out these young ladies again.
2:40:41
Proving that you're very consciously good person and all
2:40:43
that. So now I didn't just come up
2:40:45
with this is crap all over, read it.
2:40:48
There's crap all over videos and I gave links to every single
2:40:52
YouTube channel as well as Reddit post.
2:40:55
I even posted the images in case somebody tries to scrub that
2:40:59
crap. Yeah, all the evidences are my
2:41:01
website Brett Keen. Dot U s-- and anything you want.
2:41:05
It's there. Oh yeah.
2:41:07
Comes with the comes. It's candy and come soon.
2:41:12
So you did, you notice my comments on the lady opium video
2:41:15
then? Yeah, I thought it was really
2:41:17
kind of, you know that I did notice that you said that you
2:41:20
respect and some people and then to hear that I know what it's
2:41:23
like to look up the people and go.
2:41:25
That's one of the reasons why I think that God doesn't want us
2:41:28
to idolize. Because if you put your faith in
2:41:30
men no matter how powerful and great or women and then they
2:41:34
disappoint you, it can really damage you on a psychological
2:41:38
level. Yeah, I got to be You know, like
2:41:42
I wouldn't say that it was necessarily in an idol or
2:41:46
anything like that to me. But like and the drunken
2:41:49
peasants, in general. We're definitely one of my
2:41:52
influences growing up in the fact that I always really liked
2:41:55
listening. I used to be a dishwasher for a
2:41:57
number of years and I don't know if anyone either one of you have
2:42:00
any experience in the dish pit but oh my God, it is a long
2:42:04
strenuous experience that just can go on and on and on forever
2:42:09
and listening to their Antics. While I Was doing things like
2:42:12
that. It really helped me get through
2:42:13
the day and it really gave me a positive impression of them.
2:42:17
So to hear that, one of the hosts of that show that really
2:42:20
gave me a lot of Joy, a lot of Happiness, a lot of good
2:42:23
experiences was capable of doing something like that.
2:42:27
And then there's, of course, there's the Defenders that come
2:42:29
to their rescue in the comments. Oh well, they deny that, of
2:42:32
course, they deny it. Of course, they're going to deny
2:42:34
it. Why would they just accepted at
2:42:36
face value? That they did something like
2:42:38
that. Like, I'm sorry, it's really
2:42:40
not. In that somebody, unless they're
2:42:42
really 100% truthful about things.
2:42:44
It's just going to come out and go.
2:42:45
Yeah, I did that. I did this horrible duplicitous
2:42:48
thing, right? This person.
2:42:51
Then says this I want everybody to take notice of this it's yes
2:42:55
or no. But I'm more just curious.
2:42:57
I don't care. Either way about them.
2:43:00
Of course, you don't care about then you're obviously not
2:43:02
interested in what actually happened to these girls.
2:43:05
So I am he says, there's a pattern.
2:43:08
Yeah, there's a pattern with me if Are committing crimes and
2:43:12
hurting miners. Damn it you might find yourself
2:43:14
on the news and in video. How about that?
2:43:17
See the whole minor thing? I didn't know about any of that,
2:43:20
the ones that I knew about, were what happened with Taylor?
2:43:23
I didn't know anything about anybody under age or anything
2:43:26
like that. Did you check this second
2:43:28
interview? I didn't.
2:43:31
I should be honest with you. I didn't know.
2:43:32
There was a second interview. Yeah, there's a second victim
2:43:35
interviewed on the same channel that you're looking at.
2:43:39
This is the young lady. Out of here.
2:43:41
Okay, there she is and this is the one you're talking about.
2:43:45
Yeah. Yeah.
2:43:46
That's take made. Sure to grab the.
2:43:48
She's actually responding to that second interview done by
2:43:52
the second victim. Hmm.
2:43:55
Okay, her name their names are in there and all that I've
2:43:58
already tried to ask them if they'll come on and talk.
2:44:01
But I feel Aiden after looking at the interviews, both of them
2:44:05
have a kind of a similar thing going.
2:44:08
Obviously the same things happen, but one thing is, They
2:44:11
both seem to have really poor self esteems, they believe that,
2:44:14
if they come out and they try to say something or do something or
2:44:17
go to the cops, no one will listen, our give a damn.
2:44:21
And I feel horrible for people who feel this way, you know, if
2:44:26
it makes anybody feel me, better, Smokey st.
2:44:29
Hurt. Some people.
2:44:30
And those people took him to court.
2:44:32
He is now on a registry list and people know what he's about.
2:44:36
So don't don't let people hurt you and take advantage and if
2:44:40
you Silent. What about the next girls later
2:44:44
on? There is a much wider thing to
2:44:47
think about with this, but unfortunately, one of the
2:44:49
biggest modus operandi is somebody that's capable of doing
2:44:53
things like that. Is the fact that if they're
2:44:55
capable of doing that to somebody, they're also capable
2:44:58
of intimidating that person than they're capable of trying to
2:45:01
make sure that that person by all means, never goes forward
2:45:04
with any of this information and it's such a.
2:45:08
It goes back, it goes back to the idea.
2:45:10
Dia that if you if you hurt somebody like that most of the
2:45:14
times and I don't know, this may sound a bit rough at first but
2:45:18
let me finish what I'm saying. It's not usually necessarily
2:45:21
about like any of the chemical like feelings or Pleasures that
2:45:27
come from that moment. It's the power that comes from
2:45:29
that. It's the domination that they
2:45:31
can feel over that person and the idea that they can do a
2:45:34
horrible thing to them and then get away with it.
2:45:37
It's just this evil aspect of some people that I've I abhor
2:45:43
more than almost any other quality in a person is their
2:45:46
capability. They're so hungry for that
2:45:48
control over somebody that they're just completely willing
2:45:51
to take away their autonomy. That's such a horrible
2:45:54
disgusting thing. Not can if they hurt them.
2:46:01
Oh, absolutely. Good jgc says T QWERTY.
2:46:06
This was an interview released a while ago if you suggest and
2:46:10
Brett made it up or something he didn't, this is real claim.
2:46:14
Yeah, just go over to what's person I'm lady Hopi.
2:46:18
Mm. Yeah.
2:46:18
I think is their name, that's their YouTube channel.
2:46:21
I showed it off at the very beginning of the video before.
2:46:24
Aiden was able to come in, Aiden was off busy saving.
2:46:27
In the world at the time, we didn't see that part of the
2:46:30
segment. But yeah, I promoted that
2:46:33
channel and promoted the interviews.
2:46:35
People could hear the stories and all that.
2:46:38
The host seems a little irritated with me though, they
2:46:41
asked me why I made copies and I said because according to the
2:46:44
girls, a lot of their information.
2:46:45
They've already put out there has been scrubbed on the
2:46:48
internet so I wanted the evidence not to be destroyed.
2:46:51
It wasn't meant to rip somebody off or do any of that kind of
2:46:55
crap. I just wanted to copies to An
2:46:57
out there. Yeah, you know, I don't
2:47:01
necessarily personally agree with that person up.
2:47:04
Hello, how's it going? Can you feed know?
2:47:13
It's always nice when she pays me a visit.
2:47:17
No, but what I was going to say was I don't necessarily agree
2:47:19
with not on that but on some of their other opinions on things
2:47:24
but that doesn't take away from the fact that they were willing
2:47:27
to reach out to this person and give them a voice and I can
2:47:30
always appreciate respect that even if I don't necessarily
2:47:33
agree with them on everything. And I think that's a problem
2:47:35
with a lot of people Honestly though, Brett is the fact that
2:47:38
if somebody has one sticking point with somebody, then they
2:47:41
just can't respect them on any level.
2:47:43
They can't listen to anything that they have to say.
2:47:46
You and your consequently miss out on so much because of that.
2:47:50
Right. I am I completely understand
2:47:53
that. Let's see, because into Knitter
2:47:58
and two nurses. Why should anyone take
2:48:03
accusation? You make seriously?
2:48:05
Well, I'm not the one that made the ACT is active.
2:48:07
I just posted the comments as well as the interviews where you
2:48:11
can go listen to these young ladies.
2:48:14
It's I look smart folks, you can be Skeptics.
2:48:17
You can question people's motives and you can question But
2:48:20
until you actually look into it actually take the time to make
2:48:25
the effort to look into what's going on, don't just fire away.
2:48:29
You're not hurting me by doing this.
2:48:31
This didn't happen to me. This happened to two young women
2:48:34
who are apparently really good people who were taken advantage
2:48:37
of them hurt. You're not doing these girls a
2:48:41
service Folks by behaving this way.
2:48:43
I didn't make this shit up. See that's just the thing.
2:48:46
Like if people are going to come at you like this, at the very
2:48:48
least I should take the time a day.
2:48:50
A to look into what you've actually said about this to look
2:48:53
into the especially for the fact, you put a short out there,
2:48:55
you put a short out there that was like, fucking 20 seconds
2:48:58
long. It's not like they don't have
2:49:00
the time of day to look into that.
2:49:01
I'm working 10 to 12 hours a day and I had time to watch that.
2:49:04
So, how what's their excuse? I hear you there.
2:49:09
I'll be right back. Aiden, can you take over for a
2:49:12
little bit? Yes.
2:49:13
And he's still here. Hopefully, I am.
2:49:16
Yeah. All right.
2:49:17
You know, I can, I can rock and roll all by myself, but you know
2:49:21
what? It's always better to have
2:49:22
somebody to actually bounce some stuff off of.
2:49:24
So, what's what's been doing with you Sandy?
2:49:27
You know, it's been a while since I talked with you.
2:49:29
Yeah well I wanted to you said that you agreed with the
2:49:35
historicity historicity of Jesus but you didn't address the
2:49:39
resurrection which is the whole thing that yeah.
2:49:45
Makes the difference. I mean he's either just a plain
2:49:48
old human or he's the evidence of God that you're looking for.
2:49:55
Well she raised from the dead that would be God's stamp on
2:49:59
him. Yeah.
2:50:00
Now if he conquered death then absolutely there's basically no
2:50:03
denying at that point that he's a supernatural being and that he
2:50:07
you know he is he is everything that he claims to be and if I
2:50:12
can you know I'll look into what you were talking about earlier.
2:50:15
What was the name of the person you were talking about?
2:50:17
Sorry, I forgot. I'm awful.
2:50:19
Well, he's laying William Lane. Craig.
2:50:23
William Lane, Craig, awesome. Yeah, I'll look into that for
2:50:26
sure, because like, if there is sufficient, it is sufficient all
2:50:32
sorry, there's a delay. I'm really sorry.
2:50:35
It's okay. It's called evidence for the
2:50:37
resurrection, okay? And its historical evidence.
2:50:42
There's another one called The Resurrection.
2:50:46
Did the resurrection really happen?
2:50:48
And I don't remember which one I watched, but I'm sure they're
2:50:51
both. Because, yeah, absolutely.
2:50:56
Like you're right, you know that would that would definitely be
2:51:00
sufficient evidence for me if that was in fact the case I
2:51:03
guess one of my biggest sticking points that what that point is.
2:51:10
How do I word this? You know, like I've looked
2:51:15
around in so many of these sects of Christianity, and I'm sure
2:51:18
that you agree with all of your background and Christianity that
2:51:21
you have, maybe not. I've heard different opinions
2:51:24
about this, but do you agree that the idea of the church
2:51:27
isn't any kind of like it's not a physical building.
2:51:30
The church is the, the flock, the group of people that follow.
2:51:34
Yeah, yes. And then product, I wanted to
2:51:36
say something earlier, when when you and G-Man were discussing
2:51:41
Catholicism versus Orthodoxy. Etc, etc.
2:51:44
And I don't I don't like to lump.
2:51:48
I think there's members of the church in every denomination.
2:51:54
Hmm. I think there's two people in
2:51:57
every denomination and we are all wrong about something and we
2:52:01
shouldn't be going around necessarily pointing out Being
2:52:07
divisive. Sorry about my my fiance in the
2:52:10
background there. She's just getting ready for the
2:52:12
for the day if she's distracting you or anything like that.
2:52:15
Hi Franklin. Say wave to the camera, my love.
2:52:19
Yeah, it's okay. It's alright.
2:52:25
But never Swedish flag. Oh, that's the English language.
2:52:29
Actually, that's an English flag over there in the background.
2:52:32
That's the flag of St. George, but there's no blue In
2:52:37
it. That would be the Union Jack.
2:52:40
That'd be the flag of Great. Britain England is one of the
2:52:42
Kingdom's that is in the United Kingdom, that's why it's called
2:52:46
the United. Okay so actually you know how in
2:52:50
the Union Jack there's that middle part that has the that
2:52:54
that cross right there. The Red Cross.
2:52:56
Yeah, because that's because the Union Jack is actually the
2:53:00
combination of that flag and the Scottish flag, which is the one
2:53:05
with the blue background in the white cross on it.
2:53:09
That's basically it. Yeah, no.
2:53:12
It's a combination of the two you guys mind.
2:53:15
If I chose. I think you seen this earlier
2:53:17
Cindy. Don't think Aiden seen this and
2:53:19
I was wondering the comintern something real quick.
2:53:22
You guys ready? Okay, I got her.
2:53:25
All right, there's been some people while back who asked if
2:53:29
any of this was true. Obviously some people came at me
2:53:33
about something. I said a while back and I found
2:53:36
something that I thought people would be interested in.
2:53:38
Are you ready? Go ahead ready, here we go, this
2:53:41
is rough, I'll make sure to cut it off when it starts getting
2:53:44
weird Cindy. All right, look very carefully.
2:53:49
Here you go. Are you guys ready?
2:53:52
Yeah. Was it purely physical or did
2:53:54
you feel an emotional bond with this bitch?
2:53:57
Did you feel an emotional bond with his 14 year old?
2:53:59
Bitch or was it just purely? You know you wanted to get
2:54:04
yourself a piece of young ass? I mean, tell me that tell me
2:54:07
that I felt an emotional bond with a pussy.
2:54:17
All right, man. See man, this is why I can't
2:54:20
talk to you man, because you You can see you were trifling ass
2:54:29
motherfucker, TJ. You just skin beat motherfucker.
2:54:33
You you don't feel the fucking depth of emotion.
2:54:35
I didn't want to fuckin see this.
2:54:37
What I'm talking about I can't have a conversation with the
2:54:40
last goddamn All right.
2:55:00
Okay, turn it off. When it got weird, it was going
2:55:02
to get a lot weirder, but I decided we don't know.
2:55:06
I'm okay, I'm alright. Thank you.
2:55:08
I was, I was enough for me for one lifetime, thank you very
2:55:11
much. So, as many people have heard
2:55:14
me, say a long time ago, and this was brought up on DP.
2:55:17
Unfortunately, I didn't have the footage at the time, but I had
2:55:21
accused of this Mint and things being said.
2:55:25
And now you see for yourself, right?
2:55:27
They're basing that yeah, yeah, no I remember I don't know if
2:55:33
you were called this bread but way back.
2:55:36
I think it was New Year's Eve of 2015.
2:55:41
We had like an hour and a half long call.
2:55:43
It was a really interesting call that we had because this was
2:55:47
right smack dab in the middle of that point in my life where I
2:55:51
was really into DP. I really Of talking with them.
2:55:54
And I had a friend with me and he didn't say anything in the
2:55:58
call, but what he wanted me to do is basically do what everyone
2:56:01
else at the time was doing and call you and just fuck around.
2:56:04
Basically like call you a manatee or some shit like that
2:56:08
but I said to him I was like no I don't want to do that.
2:56:10
I want to call him, I want to see what he's about.
2:56:13
I want to give him an actual chance here to actually say his
2:56:16
piece and rather than just having a 20-second fucking troll
2:56:20
session with you. I actually sat down with you and
2:56:22
I do. The interesting conversation
2:56:24
about shit like that because you reveal the side to things that I
2:56:28
really wasn't aware of at that point in time.
2:56:30
So it's like understand what people expected of me Aidan.
2:56:36
I see a block TV where people are having a conversation, just
2:56:40
casually about having sex with minors.
2:56:43
What was I supposed to do? Just sit back and go.
2:56:45
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another day in paradise.
2:56:49
Of course, I'm going to bring it up.
2:56:50
That's what I seen. That's what I heard.
2:56:52
What? Am I supposed to do?
2:56:54
Yeah, it's It's so it's weird enough, the, you know, I'm
2:57:00
actually really surprised. I'm glad that you have it.
2:57:03
But I'm surprised you found that because those days those blogtv
2:57:07
days, those like Stickam days. Those are such ancient times and
2:57:11
internet time, you know, you know how I found it.
2:57:14
I'm going to tell you how I found it and the person may end
2:57:17
up scrubbing. It but I actually found it on
2:57:20
the Amazing Atheist archive Channel his own panel.
2:57:26
I was looking through it. I noticed that there was some
2:57:29
stuff with fake Sagan and I'm like, I wonder is he dumb enough
2:57:34
to put his own broadcast yet up? There are no and I was like
2:57:38
surprised. He is goodness gracious.
2:57:46
Oh my goodness. You know, I actually had the I
2:57:51
figured I was curious because I remember a while back, I listen
2:57:54
to one of your first It was bread, actually, your first ever
2:57:57
video because we have you mentioned that the last time we
2:57:59
were having a conversation. And I actually look back and
2:58:03
there's an archive of your first video.
2:58:05
I'm pretty sure it's your first video anyways because it has
2:58:08
that that thing of pills that you were talking about it.
2:58:11
Oh yeah. Religion versus science.
2:58:13
Yeah, yeah, spendy. She wouldn't have recognized me
2:58:16
back then if she would have watched one of my old coach
2:58:18
who's been like this Brett Keynes, a real prick.
2:58:21
I don't know the really good points in that video.
2:58:23
You made some good points about some shit.
2:58:25
You made some points about how this ever-loving ever merciful.
2:58:29
God, he's done a lot of fucked-up shit over the course
2:58:31
of the Old Testament and how you know what?
2:58:34
Yeah sure there are churches that do a lot of good but we
2:58:37
don't necessarily need churches in order to do good.
2:58:40
Things in the world, we don't need to give money to churches
2:58:43
in order for them to do good works, we can do good works
2:58:45
ourselves and how there's corruption Within These Church.
2:58:49
You know, I was actually really impressed because here's this
2:58:51
fucking video from what was that?
2:58:53
2005 2006. Here you are talking about
2:58:57
things like megachurches and jets and all of these different
2:59:00
things. Things have really nobody was
2:59:01
talking about that point in time and it really brought me back to
2:59:05
that whole like when I really first started watching you back
2:59:08
in like I don't know the 2000 2008 through 2010 kind of thing.
2:59:13
It was really interesting to me because you were saying things
2:59:16
that really nobody else was saying at that point in time and
2:59:19
I guess It's interesting seeing that transition of you from
2:59:26
those views to the Views that you have.
2:59:28
Now why I'm still, I still have a problem with megachurches
2:59:32
abusing people manipulating using vast amounts of money, to
2:59:36
do jets, and all that, that hasn't changed about me.
2:59:39
And I've also admitted in video repeatedly, even though I
2:59:42
believe in God, I still have a lot of my own questions when you
2:59:45
become a Believer. It doesn't mean you
2:59:47
automatically say, oh yeah. Everything Sunshine.
2:59:50
That's ingrained, I What's the news along with everybody else?
2:59:54
I turned on the news? I see that the Catholics did
2:59:56
something ignorant today and it's like, oh great.
2:59:59
Here we go. Again, another day in paradise.
3:00:03
It's not like I just turned off in the shutters closed.
3:00:06
It's just I believe that the concept of God is a more
3:00:10
rational logical position. I believe that through science,
3:00:14
there could actually be made points for it and arguments, but
3:00:18
it doesn't mean that I've all of a sudden forgiven or give Option
3:00:22
2, a bunch of Filth out there who uses who are wolves in
3:00:25
sheep's clothing? You take advantage of the week.
3:00:28
Well, I think it's obvious, I think that's honestly shown in
3:00:31
the fact that you haven't just called out atheist before in the
3:00:34
past, even after you converted, you've called out Christian
3:00:37
content creators before you've called out all manner of
3:00:40
different people, because if they just do bad behavior, if
3:00:42
they just do shit, that's really messed up.
3:00:45
You don't have a problem pointing it out to everybody.
3:00:47
So, yeah, you do make a good point in that aspect and I don't
3:00:52
know. I honestly I guess, I guess one
3:00:57
of the questions that I have, because it was, I'm pretty sure
3:01:00
it was. One of the things you brought up
3:01:01
in that video. I have zero opinion on church
3:01:05
and state change at all. Do you think that they should at
3:01:07
all, mix or do you think they should be completely like oil
3:01:10
and water like two completely separate things?
3:01:13
I believe the church should be its own thing.
3:01:15
And if the government could be separate, I know that a lot of
3:01:19
Christians will get onto me for this.
3:01:21
And maybe I'd love to hear what Cindy Lincoln thinks about this.
3:01:26
I know there's A lot of Christians who think that God
3:01:28
and Christianity should be taught in school.
3:01:31
The problem is that this opens up a Gateway.
3:01:34
If you allow that, then every religion out there including
3:01:37
Islam, Satanism paganism, and everything else.
3:01:41
Well, then fight for their ability and rights to be able to
3:01:43
be taught in school. So instead of doing that, I say,
3:01:47
if parents want their children to be involved in church
3:01:50
functions and to learn about faith, then there is places to
3:01:54
go. In fact, there are religious
3:01:56
schools That you can put your children in.
3:01:59
What's your, what's your thoughts?
3:02:00
And me, Lincoln Well. The reason that came about in
3:02:08
the first place is because our founding fathers didn't like how
3:02:13
the Church of England was abusing, its power.
3:02:17
However, many of our laws are based on the Bible, and if you
3:02:25
say that you can't include church and state, Because it
3:02:34
then allows in Satanism, Hinduism Etc.
3:02:40
What about the fact that we were originally a Christian Nation
3:02:46
and we chose to be a Christian Nation.
3:02:48
Not a Hindu Nation, not a Buddhist Nation.
3:02:52
And wait. Wait, let me just say one more
3:02:57
thing. It's only one sentence.
3:02:59
And now that we have basically kicked Christianity off.
3:03:05
Satanism Hinduism Etc. Communism atheism.
3:03:11
Are now taking that vacuum? Oh, I do understand that there's
3:03:19
socialism and communism that has been put into some of these
3:03:23
universities and there's some professors who are going for
3:03:25
that and I don't find that fair at all.
3:03:28
I believe that people's ideologies like that that should
3:03:31
go somewhere else as well, for sure.
3:03:34
But you you do and I get it, the country founded on Christianity,
3:03:38
it's fine. But Christians also said, you
3:03:41
know, it's it is fair for people to worship as free as they want.
3:03:45
But the problem is you Open it up for Christianity.
3:03:48
Everybody else can be like, oh they're picking Christianity, is
3:03:51
the favoritism. That's one of the reasons why
3:03:53
they were able to remove statues and do all that because the
3:03:57
Satanist said, well, if you're going to have Moses in the Ten
3:03:59
Commandments and let's put Baymont or yeah.
3:04:03
Yeah, that's you. You see how the well boards?
3:04:07
Yeah, because originally, we were Christian Nation because
3:04:10
the majority of people wanted it that way, and we're losing that,
3:04:16
T, is that a fair statement? Yeah, I guess, I guess what am I
3:04:24
sticking points with a lot of Christians is the fact that even
3:04:28
though a lot of Christians, at least that I speak to you
3:04:31
because Orthodoxy Catholicism Etc aren't very prominent in
3:04:35
North America compared to other parts of the world but there's
3:04:38
parts of every aspect of Christianity that directly Trace
3:04:42
their lineage has back to those faiths and I'll give you a
3:04:45
couple of examples. There's the example of The
3:04:48
ecumenical councils. The ecumenical councils were
3:04:51
Gatherings of the Bishops of the early churches, where they would
3:04:54
go and debate very fundamental aspects of theology that are now
3:04:58
cornerstones and basically, every single part of
3:05:00
Christianity Today, things like the Nicene Creed.
3:05:04
The thing that confesses that we are, in fact, we that we believe
3:05:09
that Christ is both equally man and equally God that we believe
3:05:12
that he was actually, if, you know, fully man, that he was a
3:05:15
physical being, that was then. There and did suffer and die on
3:05:18
the cross. But was also capable of feeling
3:05:20
emotion, but that he was in fact free of sin things.
3:05:23
Like the fact that I will be someone that where I was I was
3:05:28
about to say it completely slipped my mind but aspects of
3:05:32
Christianity like that. Where the books of the Bible was
3:05:36
that I was going to say the books of the Bible that we have
3:05:38
determined were, in fact, cannot equip.
3:05:40
Because there were plenty of other books that were not expect
3:05:44
put into the into the Bible, things like The Book of Enoch
3:05:47
things, like, the book of Nicodemus, books like that, that
3:05:51
were originally parts of many early Christian Bibles, but have
3:05:54
now been excised from them, And then there is also what bread
3:05:59
actually kind of touched upon and both you and Cindy, actually
3:06:02
the fact that a lot of our laws come from come from Christians.
3:06:06
Like the fact that Western Law primarily is actually based off
3:06:10
of the code of Justinian and Justinian the Eastern, Roman
3:06:14
Emperor. He's actually venerated as a
3:06:16
saint in both the Catholic and Orthodox world.
3:06:19
So we don't only have a spiritual aspect of those faiths
3:06:22
that have fundamentally ingrain themselves in our society.
3:06:24
We also have a legal size. Side.
3:06:26
We have a cultural side so I and I mean this is just my
3:06:31
perspective but I think a lot of a lot of these other Christians
3:06:35
try to have their cake and eat it too where they really
3:06:38
disrespect and whore. And I'm not saying it's you guys
3:06:41
necessarily but they really disrespect and abhor these
3:06:46
earlier churches. These kids, these Catholic
3:06:48
churches, these Orthodox Churches even though they really
3:06:51
built a lot of the foundations of modern Christianity, as we
3:06:55
know it today, We got a person in here you know how whenever
3:06:59
they don't have a camera. I got to put something up.
3:07:03
It offended folks, this is one of my newer pictures.
3:07:06
I'm going to block the screen because I don't know if a penis
3:07:09
is going to fly. There we go, there we go boy.
3:07:14
Now notice there is Christian mentioned in there.
3:07:16
I was there. Here we go.
3:07:19
Hello mister t, g chord E. Is that how I pronounce your
3:07:22
name? I get names to terrible.
3:07:25
Someone will say their Name is Bob also boob, you said so I'm
3:07:28
terrible at that. Just wanna make sure you can
3:07:30
hear me, right? Yeah, we.
3:07:32
Yeah, we can keep right on it. I was texting and I just want to
3:07:37
make sure that yeah I don't know.
3:07:39
I was texting a lot. I want to make sure my my point
3:07:42
is across is all is that okay? Like I don't think or you may I
3:07:47
don't think you made it up. I think there's enough evidence
3:07:50
that says, at least something happened.
3:07:52
Something's a little sus. You know what I'm saying with
3:07:55
with the hole? Ben story, right?
3:07:58
This these videos have apparently been out for a while.
3:08:02
I don't know why it is that more people have been to like, put it
3:08:06
out there because it's clear. These these women they wouldn't
3:08:09
have come forth unless they wanted their story heard and all
3:08:12
that. I'm not sure what the deal is on
3:08:14
that. Aiden, who's an agnostic?
3:08:17
He watched it, I think long before I was able to have this
3:08:21
displayed to me and shown but I felt that I would use my
3:08:25
platform to try To see if there was any way that they could get
3:08:28
hurt in their story would be told I just I was noticing like,
3:08:33
I follow as I said in the previous command, I follow you,
3:08:36
I follow DP and I followed the DP subreddit and from one poor
3:08:39
bastard, no one no one, I just followed them.
3:08:42
I don't watch them like they're not entertaining to me anymore.
3:08:46
Yeah, fair enough. But I still keep track because
3:08:49
you know something I was doing and what 2015 so I you know old
3:08:53
habits die hard? No.
3:08:54
Same here man. So.
3:08:56
Fall into DP subreddit for a while.
3:08:57
And I just check in because I have no life in the story.
3:09:01
The story of the pretty much what I believe.
3:09:03
You know, brought the downfall of the split up between Deep Fat
3:09:06
fried and drunken peasants was this, you know you know this
3:09:10
what was going on this event, right?
3:09:12
Yeah. So what I'm thinking is like all
3:09:15
of a sudden, some random Reddit user, I've never seen on the
3:09:18
sub. Bryant brings up this story and
3:09:21
then Brett starts posting content in the end.
3:09:23
I'm just wondering if he was related to suburb that, that
3:09:26
Reddit account or not. Or if it was why I've been
3:09:28
posting content for a very long time, but I actually have linked
3:09:32
many of those Reddit Pages that's on my website along with
3:09:35
the interviews and the YouTube channel.
3:09:36
Done by this person, I tried to document an archive.
3:09:40
The best I can. There's still tons and tons.
3:09:42
Coming in one thing I heard from some non believers out there.
3:09:46
I don't know if you do this T quality.
3:09:48
I think I told a A while back. But back in the day whenever DP
3:09:52
continue to do segments about me, I think it got to the point
3:09:56
where Ben wasn't even looking at my videos.
3:09:58
First, put them on the screen and do its thing, and I assumed
3:10:02
he would probably do that. So what I did was some DP people
3:10:06
showed me that he was cheating, are not a woman that I think
3:10:09
they claimed, he was married to. So I put the images up that
3:10:12
drunken peasants fan gave me. I put it on my video and what
3:10:18
happened was Has been displayed it on the DP project woman seen
3:10:23
it. He turned off the podcasts like
3:10:26
you're two hours in and apparently deleted it and this
3:10:30
caused amazing Aegis be pissed because TJ thanks again.
3:10:33
Oh yeah their particular hours, he's done a job.
3:10:35
How are you? Delete my material and content.
3:10:38
So I heard that was one of the reasons but I also have heard
3:10:41
that because of this, duplex his shit going on with the young
3:10:45
girls and all that. This also set people in the
3:10:47
motion, We think I was there that night by the way.
3:10:52
So yeah. You, you know what, I'm
3:10:53
actually, I've always been wanting to speak to somebody
3:10:56
that was actually there that night because I wasn't there
3:10:58
because it was on Twitch and I say I was really big into twitch
3:11:02
at that point in my life I'm still not honestly I maybe check
3:11:06
it out once in a blue moon. But yeah, I've heard different.
3:11:10
I've heard so many different stories about that night because
3:11:12
there's like different, there was never recorded essentially,
3:11:15
there's no actual physical record of it there.
3:11:18
And if there is looking I've said a bounty out for that
3:11:21
episode I can't find. I've got every other episode
3:11:23
that I don't have that episode so I've had countless DP fans,
3:11:27
come on the show and everything. Say things to the effect of Brad
3:11:31
King was the hero we didn't ask for but what we got is some kind
3:11:36
of Batman thing and the end but King got the final draw.
3:11:39
I don't know, all's I know, is I put the shit up there?
3:11:42
Yeah, put it on the broadcast, and then freaked out.
3:11:45
And then TJ said something to the effect of you're able This
3:11:49
all this shit out of people but someone comes at you all hard
3:11:52
and you fucking go quiver up on me like that.
3:11:55
Yeah, see that's like that. You always you always
3:11:58
traditionally on that show. You went after Paul you went
3:12:01
after Scott TJ every once in a blue moon, you'd go after Scotty
3:12:06
but you never really did. Go after been all.
3:12:08
I remember really what never means body though, and I called
3:12:11
him an echo chamber because he was like the brother that just
3:12:14
kind of sad that he would either agree with everything.
3:12:17
TJ said, are you would say, fuck you, dude?
3:12:19
What the fuck? Yeah, it was like the echo
3:12:22
Chambers. I didn't have no hate towards
3:12:24
that guy at all. As far as been, I didn't know
3:12:27
shit about him. All I knew was he was the guy
3:12:29
that they paid to run a no BS program.
3:12:31
So they can do a live broadcast. I think that was, that was by
3:12:35
Design like, whenever they tried to joke about it, like, re
3:12:37
watching some old episodes. They weren't allowed to joke
3:12:40
about Ben or else you get butthurt?
3:12:43
Yeah, he was a very sensitive guy.
3:12:45
One of the biggest things he was saying to them about, and it's
3:12:47
actually brought up in that interview.
3:12:49
Funnily enough was yeah, just as appearance because I Taylor are
3:12:54
you the story Aiden about the video for the patreon that they
3:12:58
ended up losing? But I caught mine in the manatee
3:13:03
or which one happened was? They were recording, they were
3:13:07
doing the broadcast, we're talking and everything, we're
3:13:09
like, two hours and a half and what ends up happening is that,
3:13:14
apparently, their computers froze up, or locked up and then
3:13:19
they They they all had to restart their shit and they come
3:13:21
back and TJ goes Brett. I know you like to record
3:13:25
everything you're just like that.
3:13:27
Please tell me, you got it and I said, well, I might but I'm
3:13:31
going to need some money. I said you guys
3:13:49
Me alive and shit. And roast me a fucking stuck.
3:13:52
I'm going to need something. That's how did you get, like a
3:13:56
thousand dollars for that aren't top?
3:14:00
Yeah, he doubled. I heard that from somebody
3:14:02
actually from a secondhand source that you doubled your
3:14:05
money, but I never actually asked you about that.
3:14:07
I've always very, if you agree laughs his ass off and stuff.
3:14:09
He goes, what are you gonna do with the money?
3:14:11
I'm gonna buy my wife, a modest dress, thank you very much, sir.
3:14:14
Oh, is that, where that mean came from?
3:14:16
Yeah, modest dress. My wife don't even wear dresses.
3:14:20
But people thought this funny, hey guy, I didn't have much
3:14:24
time. I just, I wanted to clarify.
3:14:26
I don't think you made it up but at the same time.
3:14:28
So just last thing, if you need another atheist that doesn't,
3:14:33
come on, I'll come out and talk because I know the history with
3:14:36
the whole show and I guess what they presented.
3:14:38
But following in the background Brent, well TQ I was mostly
3:14:43
meaning to make sure these young ladies stories were getting out.
3:14:46
I'm not sure if there's going to be a whole lot of talk.
3:14:49
About the p in the future. Although I get a lot of DP folks
3:14:52
to come in and like, bro, what happened with this?
3:14:54
How did the whole mac and cheese schedule?
3:14:56
Way to come to me and all that people always run your way more
3:15:00
accessible. Your the others.
3:15:02
Not only are you the other side of the situation?
3:15:05
No pun intended. You're the other side of this
3:15:08
entire Affair. That's happened there.
3:15:10
But you're also somebody that's way more approachable.
3:15:14
You're somebody that can actually go to and get some
3:15:18
information. Nation from because I can't, I
3:15:20
can't just sit on a show with bed and discuss what happened
3:15:23
with him. I can't fucking call up, TJ, or
3:15:25
Paul, or any of them and ask what happened.
3:15:27
I can't get there in person perspectives, but I can at least
3:15:30
get yours. So it's a really invaluable
3:15:34
thing than my personal opinion to get at least one side of the
3:15:37
story from the horse's mouth. So, yeah, and as I said earlier,
3:15:42
and stuff like that any of this stuff that's flying around.
3:15:44
Whether it's about Smokey saying there, Cindy a Lincoln
3:15:48
situation, Then these people are more than welcome to come in
3:15:53
here and tell their side and their perspective because I'm
3:15:57
not trying to shut anybody out. The link is in the public and
3:16:00
record a year more than welcome to come to the show.
3:16:03
Anytime you like whether it's about the VP crap or you just
3:16:06
want to talk about your views or your day or all that.
3:16:09
I leave it open for everyone right on man.
3:16:12
Hey, I kind of can't remember the the Joseph martelly
3:16:15
situation, right? Well God no no hear me out, hear
3:16:18
me out the I'm mentioning it is Brett said pretty much a if you
3:16:22
got a problem with Joseph, why don't you call the cops?
3:16:24
Do you know anything related to you know, with the been
3:16:28
accusations that has anyone gone to the police about it?
3:16:30
Or if there's a reason why they haven't, I don't know.
3:16:34
But I remember the making a big-ass deal about that.
3:16:37
And remember, I told Aidan 100 times unless I'm mentioned in
3:16:41
something, usually DP fans are really kind to me by giving me a
3:16:45
timestamp. So I don't have to sit through
3:16:46
three hours of pure. Hell, it really, Government but
3:16:50
with Joseph, Martelli he was a guy just like you and Aiden who
3:16:54
just showed up. He shows up in my rooms talking
3:16:58
to me. I didn't know shit about him.
3:17:00
He said, oh, these guys are being mean to me here, and I'm
3:17:04
like, well, during the fuck out there fella - I know, they're
3:17:08
telling this. They're making videos claiming
3:17:10
that I like sent thee master. I don't know the fucking guy.
3:17:14
That's like telling saying that I sent Aiden the, you know.
3:17:17
Yeah, over st. Louis.
3:17:19
Or some shit? Yeah, wow, these guys are in
3:17:21
some serious fucking drugs. Am I right?
3:17:24
The only reason I mention it was because you gave the advice.
3:17:26
Well, if something illegal happened was about to happen,
3:17:29
call the cops, if you're concerned, if you know this
3:17:33
event happen with Scott's wife. Why haven't they addressed it
3:17:37
with the police or not and that's what the tentative
3:17:40
connection I was making. I wasn't trying to make a
3:17:42
Japanese and yeah here like I'm actually I'm not a hundred and
3:17:47
fifty percent sure about this but from what?
3:17:49
Gathered from those comments because Brett touched upon
3:17:51
earlier. I did, I was in the comments
3:17:53
section of that video a while back almost a year ago at this
3:17:56
point. And one of the things that was
3:18:00
mentioned was as I'm pretty sure that Ben and either Taylor or
3:18:04
Scotty or maybe both of them actually are currently involved
3:18:08
in some manner of legal action right now.
3:18:11
So I think there was actually some kind of legal action, taken
3:18:14
between both of those parties. I don't know any of the details.
3:18:17
I'm sure it's not public. Her right now because I'm pretty
3:18:20
sure it's an ongoing case. So I think that it should
3:18:24
eventually become public knowledge.
3:18:26
When the case is done, it may not I'm not entirely sure if the
3:18:29
nature of that case but that's what I've heard anyways, out in
3:18:32
the Zeitgeist, you know, take that with the fucking gray Nepal
3:18:35
but now what do you mean there's so many different topics?
3:18:40
Are you saying that is Taylor? It's she going to take this to
3:18:44
court and she going to do some believe it's already.
3:18:46
I believe that there's a current that's what I was hoping.
3:18:49
Ring in the comments below. I hope to God.
3:18:51
That's the case. I hope that she's standing up
3:18:54
for herself. I heard her in the interview she
3:18:57
said that she didn't believe anybody would care less than or
3:19:01
anything like this. And I'm like why isn't Scotty?
3:19:03
Scotty's got the money. He's got this resources to be
3:19:07
able to get her, a good lawyer, just destroy this shit, do it?
3:19:11
I think he is, I really hope that he is as well.
3:19:13
Honestly, because, yeah, if he really did, in fact, and I have,
3:19:18
I honestly can't 100% definitively.
3:19:20
Say whether or not it's the case until that person's had their
3:19:23
day in court. And the evidence has been heard
3:19:25
but from what it seems, it really does seem like it was the
3:19:29
case just from appear like inference standpoint.
3:19:31
I hope you're right. Aiden, I hope you're right.
3:19:34
Yeah, longer you wait, the worse, the evidence gets the
3:19:37
harder now. That spring is well, it's such a
3:19:39
difficult case to prove in the first place because, yeah,
3:19:43
you're right. It relies so heavily on evidence
3:19:45
that very rapidly deteriorates. It's not something like murder
3:19:48
where it can. Found out years after the fact,
3:19:51
no, this is something that you got to take into.
3:19:53
You got to immediately, do something about it and that's
3:19:57
not victim-blaming by any means because she does a very good job
3:20:00
explaining why she didn't necessarily right away go and do
3:20:04
this because a she was in the environment with all of these
3:20:06
different people where she needed to make an appearance
3:20:09
where she felt like she needed to be there and be one of the
3:20:12
people that was involved. But also at the same time, the
3:20:16
fact that it really does seem like Ben When was intimidating
3:20:20
her in a very big way was not necessarily like directly
3:20:24
menacing her. But basically indirectly,
3:20:26
implying, like look, I could make you or I could unmake you
3:20:30
basically as far as like, any kind of popularity, any kind of
3:20:33
success. That's what I got from here, in
3:20:36
both interviews with both girls, the second victim and all that.
3:20:39
She felt the same way. She even said something to the
3:20:42
effect of that she staying in Detroit, she claimed that
3:20:47
because she's black, because of Because of that, that no one
3:20:50
will take her seriously or care about her her ordeal.
3:20:54
But I can promise you, I about $10 that if people start getting
3:20:59
the story out. And they start saying what
3:21:01
they're saying, I guarantee there's going to be more,
3:21:02
that'll end up coming out as well.
3:21:05
They're not feeling just as intimidated.
3:21:07
One thing I seen a pattern with both these young ladies as they
3:21:10
got really low self-esteem's, and that's sad that it's sad
3:21:14
because they're beautiful people.
3:21:15
They're just trying to stand up for what they're doing and I
3:21:18
feel like it's terrible. What happened?
3:21:20
Go ahead. Yeah, you know, I think, one of
3:21:22
the first things that I got honestly Brett that you are the
3:21:26
way necessarily that they were portraying you at all is the
3:21:29
fact that one of the biggest sticking points that they had
3:21:32
with that they had with you? Like one of the patterns
3:21:35
quote-unquote about you was that you would be buddy-buddy with
3:21:39
somebody and then you would ditch them and then you'd have a
3:21:41
big falling out with them. And I mean it's been on and on,
3:21:44
but I've been talking with you for years and you never made no
3:21:47
video saying Aiden's a piece of Burbage, I fucking hate Aiden,
3:21:50
you know? Like, I don't think that that's
3:21:52
really true to you at all as long as someone is reason.
3:21:54
But let me give you an example of something here.
3:21:57
Like, Smoky think, I don't know if you realize this, when before
3:22:01
I found out what he was about, I was hanging out in this room.
3:22:04
I was chilling, and then, I heard him tell people that they
3:22:07
should kill themself things. Like this told this woman that
3:22:11
she should just kill herself and that he prays for her death and
3:22:14
pain and suffering when you, when you hang out with people
3:22:17
and they're saying shit like that.
3:22:19
At. Yeah I got it recorded.
3:22:20
By the way if you want to check my site I got the whole video up
3:22:23
and then on top of you find out. Yeah no kidding.
3:22:27
That's armbrecht King dot U s--. If I play it on this where you
3:22:30
got his voice saying that I could be flagged for it so be
3:22:34
careful. It's a bit too hot for YouTube.
3:22:37
You have to understand Aid when you're in social media as much
3:22:40
as I am. And being on these things you're
3:22:43
going to end up finding out that people are a little bit
3:22:45
different behind stage to the show and you're No, there will
3:22:50
be times. I've had it with.
3:22:51
I've had issues with G-Man often.
3:22:53
Darn. I love him.
3:22:55
But we have issues. We do we do.
3:22:57
Sometimes he gets excited and he starts yelling at people.
3:23:00
What are you going to do all the way down the line?
3:23:04
Now, for sure, I guess, I guess I kind of comes with passion
3:23:07
because I can say, if you man is one word, if I could describe
3:23:10
him in one word, it is passionate because that guy's
3:23:12
got a lot of fire. He's got a lot of energy and I
3:23:15
feel like that's why sometimes he's burnt out the way that he
3:23:18
is occasionally. It's just because, you know,
3:23:20
it's like the old saying goes a candle that burns twice as
3:23:23
bright is only going to burn for half as long if he's going to
3:23:26
put all this energy into arguing with people.
3:23:29
And I like him in the sense that he he isn't belligerent and his
3:23:33
passion, but I can feel it and is in his words, it's palpable.
3:23:37
It's always been something that I've really admired about him is
3:23:40
that he's really got a way of letting you know that he really
3:23:43
cares about things. So if there's any particular
3:23:49
aspect of G-Man that I can really say that I admire about
3:23:52
him, they would definitely be that first and foremost, he's
3:23:55
definitely got a fire in him. That has not gone away over the
3:23:58
years and you've extremely passionate, and it's admirable,
3:24:04
that's admirable. They're really not not only
3:24:07
really care about something. But be able to articulate that,
3:24:10
no way that can that can really Reach people and I think that
3:24:13
that's undeniably, one of the biggest reasons, why?
3:24:16
When he first made that appearance and that religion
3:24:18
debate, you guys had way back in 2014.
3:24:20
I think that's one of the big reasons why I got as popular as
3:24:24
he did this. Because people looked at this
3:24:25
guy and they were like, holy shit.
3:24:27
This is somebody that can really make them thick and really put
3:24:29
themselves out there, they can really be an effective voice in
3:24:33
the community. Even if some people were just
3:24:35
there to goof on and there was almost like a loving kind of
3:24:38
goof. It was almost like I, you
3:24:40
lovable little Scamp. I'm gonna ruffle your hair, you
3:24:43
know, like I'll give you an example.
3:24:46
Full of a another person stuff that I've had in snouts with
3:24:49
them. This person doesn't mind.
3:24:51
We talked about this and joked about it.
3:24:53
But my buddy, John, he had an issue where I'd be doing a show.
3:24:58
And he come in, not even knowing who the atheists are religious.
3:25:01
People were in the room and he would just as soon as I put him
3:25:04
on, Mike he'd say he's a piece of garbage.
3:25:07
You talking to Brett. I'm like dude you can't do that.
3:25:11
I mean could you imagine aiding somebody comes into says points
3:25:14
at you and says who's this piece of?
3:25:16
Ash and then I go to the whole bullshit of.
3:25:18
Oh, John's has an asshole. That's the way he acts kind of
3:25:21
think. Like, I kept on telling him,
3:25:23
don't do that. And then finally, we had to take
3:25:26
a timeout from each other for a little bit.
3:25:28
I didn't want him talking ages like that.
3:25:30
Ya got my disagreements and I want to argue with folks and
3:25:32
debate. Yeah.
3:25:34
Looking to call somebody a piece of trash, unless they actually
3:25:37
are. I got to admit, there was one
3:25:44
very small rough patch, I had with you.
3:25:46
You Brett back in the day you were doing one of your rooms
3:25:48
back in the day and you posed. The question of do you have any
3:25:53
transitional fossils or any fossils of like the human rat?
3:25:57
Hybrid? I think was the question.
3:25:59
Something. Allah ya.
3:26:00
Something that looks a lot like Mickey Mouse.
3:26:02
I'm like yeah. And he asked me if I had any
3:26:07
images of it and I said the word no, but I wasn't done yet.
3:26:11
I was about to say but I can explain to you why.
3:26:14
That isn't the case because there's Additional fossils that
3:26:17
can be demonstrated to be there, but you kick me right after I
3:26:20
said, no, and I'll admit I wasn't very happy about that.
3:26:23
I apologize. It's all right, we get a lot of
3:26:27
folks in the room at the same time.
3:26:28
It's a lot of stress and aggravation all that probably in
3:26:32
full-on retard mug back then, you know what?
3:26:37
I don't hold it against you. It's why it's only been brought
3:26:39
up now after so much time talking with you.
3:26:41
It's no big deal. I just find it a bit funny in
3:26:43
hindsight honestly. Oh absolutely.
3:26:47
You're awfully quiet over there. You can get raptured up on this,
3:26:50
did you? She's yeah, looking down.
3:26:57
He likes re-breaking looks like you weren't good enough you
3:27:00
later. I don't want stand down here.
3:27:03
If I start seeing people flying up, I know I'll fuck it was too
3:27:07
late. God damn it, I didn't get on
3:27:09
soon enough. No, the Bible says all who call
3:27:13
upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
3:27:16
So even if Revelation starts happening, people can still
3:27:19
accept him and your yeah, I don't want to take that risk.
3:27:22
It's like the old saying, like, you know what?
3:27:24
Yeah, technically, you can accept Christ into your heart.
3:27:26
On your deathbed, but who knows? He might get hit by a bus, you
3:27:29
might fall out of a bill that you never know what's gonna
3:27:32
happen. So it's probably best to.
3:27:34
It wasn't recommending that you. Wait, are we?
3:27:36
I know, I know not call. There was one time when I was a
3:27:43
huge thunderstorm and it woke me up.
3:27:47
There was this huge crash of thunder and I thought for sure
3:27:51
the Lord was coming back and I woke up and I sat up in bed and
3:27:56
I said, Lord, remembering that verse.
3:28:02
He who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved and I was
3:28:05
like, please don't leave without me.
3:28:10
That's always been. It's always been one of the
3:28:14
parts of the Bible where I wasn't, because I always get a
3:28:17
different answer from Christians.
3:28:18
No matter which one I talked about some of them say that you
3:28:21
got to do that before judgment happens.
3:28:24
Some of them say that you got to do that before a certain point
3:28:27
in your life, some of them say that you can do it at any point
3:28:30
in your life and that's honestly, the thing is I think
3:28:32
it's It's an easy thing to do, but it's so counterproductive to
3:28:38
just lump all of one group and it's what you were touching upon
3:28:41
earlier Sunday. It's really counterproductive to
3:28:44
lump any group together, any one group of people because you miss
3:28:47
out on so much nuance and understanding.
3:28:50
And it's so easy to aggravate people, when you say things like
3:28:53
that because it almost seems like you don't fully understand
3:28:58
all the nuances of what they're talking about and you don't want
3:29:00
to understand. So it's not anything that
3:29:02
anybody in one run. Not even trying.
3:29:05
Yeah, your lover. Yeah.
3:29:11
What's up brother? Yeah.
3:29:15
I was wanting to ask you have you had a chance to see the New
3:29:19
FBI recordings that come out of Jim Jones?
3:29:23
No no I haven't you know who Jim Jones is right?
3:29:26
Well absolutely Jonestown the the cult that he ran absolutely
3:29:30
I'm not let me show you something real quick and see
3:29:33
what your Pinion is harness. This may shock you.
3:29:36
Here we go. But thank you for the feedback
3:29:55
is critical. The last year's as I became an
3:30:00
atheist and became an atheist. I have become a union field,
3:30:06
aided by being in, The church situation because everyone knows
3:30:09
where I'm at. My Bishop knows that I'm an
3:30:11
atheist. I'm an atheist.
3:30:12
I'm an atheist. He knows I recognized.
3:30:18
I got plenty more, but I didn't want to hold the conversation up
3:30:22
for the it's like a 10 minute video that I can find the podium
3:30:27
saying it. Everything else?
3:30:28
That's really actually quite interesting because obviously it
3:30:32
wasn't the truth but the way that he always portrayed it and
3:30:36
the recording that always stuck with me was his, he's in church
3:30:40
with a number of people, he's preaching at the pulpit and he
3:30:43
just, he takes this Bible and he says Want to God, he throws it
3:30:49
across the room and he says I'll be your God and yeah, I know I
3:30:55
know it's to me that would almost imply and I guess if that
3:31:00
recording is true, he contradicts that at least
3:31:03
internally. But to me, an atheist is
3:31:06
somebody that believes that there is no God, but it really
3:31:09
at least seemed in the way that Jim's Jones acted that he
3:31:12
genuinely thought that he was a divine creature had.
3:31:17
I'm special about him. He had this like Messiah
3:31:19
syndrome about him and there's been such a huge preponderance
3:31:23
of people like that to the point where I honestly fear that if in
3:31:28
fact Jesus is a real entity and obviously he's going to make
3:31:31
some way to distinguish himself. But it's not going to
3:31:34
necessarily be apparent to everybody because of how many
3:31:37
people have come throughout history and claimed by that new
3:31:40
Messiah, that be putting some non-believers would appreciate
3:31:44
what Jim Jones was saying, during the podium thing.
3:31:46
I just didn't You guys to sit through a big old long video,
3:31:49
you guys weren't, you can watch the full deal on my YouTube
3:31:52
channel, but he refers to God, as a cosmic wizard old man, in
3:31:58
the sky is Sky, Daddy. He says all kinds of really mean
3:32:02
things and all this and he said, I'm all about love and this God
3:32:06
is evil. Look what he's done to Mankind
3:32:09
and blah, blah blah. So yeah, he was straight, darn.
3:32:12
He talked about God, like he was nothing more than a character in
3:32:15
The Lord of the Rings novels. Oh yeah, so he was definitely
3:32:19
lacking a belief for sure, he was lacking.
3:32:22
He did you know that he did you know, that good rival what sorry
3:32:29
I guess it is. Sorry, go ahead Aidan.
3:32:33
Did you know that? The Bible predicts that there
3:32:36
will be many false Christ's Jesus said many will come in my
3:32:42
name. Yeah.
3:32:45
No, I am aware of that passage. It's Is that is that Matthew?
3:32:54
I actually would have to Google it.
3:32:57
Yeah, I think it's Matthew, but I'm not entirely sure I yeah, I
3:33:02
can't claim that. I know that for sure.
3:33:04
But I do know that passage and I do know that.
3:33:07
Yeah, you definitely was capable of predicting that because I
3:33:11
think he absolutely knew whether he was divine or not because I'm
3:33:14
not sure. I need to be honest with you,
3:33:16
when I say that, whether he was divine or not, he knew that he
3:33:18
was going to be an influential enough.
3:33:20
People figure that people would imitate him that People would
3:33:24
follow after him and try to claim to be the next
3:33:27
resurrection, of him. The same way that there have
3:33:30
been people that have claimed that there are revived version
3:33:33
of the Buddha, or that there have been a revived version of
3:33:36
Muhammad, or their revived version of any manner of
3:33:39
extremely important. Religious figure for a large,
3:33:42
cultural group. I want to see somebody these
3:33:45
days kind of claim that they're from, like, Zoroastrianism or
3:33:48
some fucking obscure religion. I think that would have a little
3:33:52
bit more validity of my mind in the sense.
3:33:54
Is that? Okay, at least you're not just
3:33:55
going after numbers? Well, I guess I got somebody
3:33:58
famous for you, is shockingly enough that actually help to the
3:34:02
zoroastrian belief, you'll know who I'm talking about right away
3:34:05
of Italia, you ready? Yeah.
3:34:08
Fred Mercury. You know who that guy is?
3:34:10
Oh yeah oh absolutely vocalist the queen.
3:34:13
Yeah he believe it's our last Rita's.
3:34:16
Yeah he believed that there was some form of deity.
3:34:18
They can piss fire and everything.
3:34:20
It was rough. Yeah man I guess Get put in the
3:34:24
tower of Silence at the end of his life sucks for him.
3:34:27
He didn't get eaten by a crow. That's what they fucking want.
3:34:30
I think it's Ravens, actually not crows, but yeah, it's such a
3:34:33
weird aspect of the zoroastrian religion.
3:34:36
They have these things called The Towers of silence.
3:34:39
And they're basically these giant open-ended Towers, where
3:34:42
they put their dead and they encourage it.
3:34:45
That's a part of their life cycle.
3:34:46
I believe or their Ascension to the afterlife.
3:34:49
I'm not too too familiar with Zoroastrianism that.
3:34:52
Yeah, they don't want to Be buried.
3:34:54
They don't want to be cremated. They want to be eaten by Birds
3:34:57
because apparently that's the natural order of things and
3:35:00
their faith. Speaking of birds and all that
3:35:03
did you ever hear? You know, the guy that I have
3:35:05
coming to my shows, sometimes of on helping?
3:35:08
Have you ever heard his? His concept of the afterlife?
3:35:12
He seemed Brett. My afterlife is beautiful.
3:35:14
The Pagan afterlife is great and I'm like, well describe it to
3:35:17
me, let's hear what's so great about.
3:35:19
He was waiting to become a, you become a heroic statue and
3:35:23
birds. Hang out with you and all this.
3:35:25
And this big Coliseum of beauty and I'm like, let me get this
3:35:29
straight. I get turned into a statue for
3:35:30
all eternity and pigeons shit on me and I'm sorry, it's just
3:35:38
gone. Help them is such a, he's a very
3:35:41
interesting guy in the sense that he's fun to have a casual
3:35:45
conversation with like he's a fairly down-to-earth guy for
3:35:48
just talking about regular stuff but oh my God, if he starts
3:35:52
going on about some of the things, Things.
3:35:54
He believes I want to fucking bash my head against a goddamn
3:35:57
wall. It's so it's so out there and
3:36:00
he's so unwilling to even compromise on any of it to the
3:36:05
point where you're trying to have a reasonable and I don't
3:36:08
hate the guy or anything, let me say that right off the bat but
3:36:10
you try to have a conversation with the guy and he's so
3:36:13
unwilling to budge on anything. It is so frustrating, you know,
3:36:17
like I could talk with you guys and there's been times in our
3:36:20
conversations, but you guys have yielded things that I've brought
3:36:23
up or you guys. Van.
3:36:24
Okay. Yeah.
3:36:24
Maybe you've got a decent point. They're easy.
3:36:27
I've never heard that from him. I've never run out.
3:36:32
Another thing that is totally unforgivable.
3:36:34
Totally irredeemable. Is he teases me?
3:36:37
He eats cupcakes and Twinkies right in front of me on camera.
3:36:40
One is cold. Come on, I know you're watching
3:36:53
this. Do better than that.
3:36:54
Damn it. This beautiful feast, and
3:37:00
Thanksgiving turkey, and we're sitting here going.
3:37:03
Oh man, I gotta admit. There was that one time I had
3:37:05
chocolate? I'm sorry, I did the same thing.
3:37:08
I was eating chocolate on the stream.
3:37:10
I'm a bad person. What can I say?
3:37:12
No, that is a bad person and Brett with his vanilla latte or
3:37:16
whatever it is. He always good.
3:37:18
Yeah, but you have a french vanilla situation there.
3:37:20
Brett yeah, one of the things can be the When I came up with
3:37:24
this concept, I'm more of a hazelnut type of guy or normal
3:37:29
creamer for my coffee but it's a nice way of saying, I got to go
3:37:33
use the restroom you know you don't want to be on somebody
3:37:36
podcasts and they're like, wait a minute.
3:37:38
We offered invited you up here and I'm like yeah but I'm an old
3:37:41
guy and I got a, you know, do my thing.
3:37:43
Everyone tomorrow. What's that thing?
3:37:45
Exactly? I was going to go dancing.
3:37:47
The roof of my house. Seriously.
3:37:49
No. I gotta go use the restroom.
3:37:51
Can I do that? Can I have your permission?
3:37:53
Answer to go get a teacher for each melon situation.
3:38:02
It's good because like honestly the way that they portray it it
3:38:06
with you was that you were all like sensitive about that kind
3:38:10
of thing. Like bringing up any of those
3:38:12
references. But I've been able to jab you
3:38:14
every now and then just playfully about it.
3:38:16
You've never reacted poorly to it because you understand that
3:38:20
it's just a light-hearted joke. That is long.
3:38:22
As you know, people aren't insulting them.
3:38:24
The shit out of you or anything like that, that they made.
3:38:26
Well, you know, they're just trying to Banter.
3:38:30
Well at first, I didn't know what the hell they were even
3:38:33
talking about whenever they were coming and doing this stuff on
3:38:35
my show. You might say.
3:38:37
So what's the situation right now?
3:38:39
Do you want to know the situation?
3:38:41
Yeah, I didn't know what the fuck they were doing and they
3:38:44
kept repeating. So I like that and I was like,
3:38:47
oh I get it, I get it. I ended up being the broadcast.
3:38:50
I don't know if you realize that whenever I was first starting
3:38:53
out on YouTube and I still do this the same way where I don't
3:38:57
do any scripts, I rarely take notes I just hit record and
3:39:02
sometimes when you just trying to make your fucking point you
3:39:04
just go. I got another situation
3:39:06
scenario, whatever. Get everybody has a crutch
3:39:09
words. Everybody has their words that
3:39:11
they use when they can't quite think of something off the top
3:39:13
of their heads to fill the space with.
3:39:15
So I don't know why all of a sudden those words were they're
3:39:19
so important for you. A lot of it, isn't, I noticed
3:39:23
that they come up. The name for not keen isms or
3:39:25
something like that. Yes, came the Missouri.
3:39:28
They would hear this all the fucking time.
3:39:31
If they were to just drive down the road and shit of my
3:39:34
neighborhood, they'd hear people be like, you don't to, we're
3:39:37
going to go out there and take care of that grass situation
3:39:40
with our lawn mower, that shit taken care of right away.
3:39:45
Got a bunch of damn bugs and need to get some full can spray
3:39:48
out here. I mean that's the way they talk.
3:39:50
Yeah yeah. You say I'm a Saint Louis
3:39:53
accent. But when you live out in the
3:39:55
country for a little bit you're like won't Kate.
3:40:02
Oh yeah. In the city they say on but in
3:40:05
the country like ah damn it. She's on the damn you know
3:40:08
Prowler. Yeah there she going.
3:40:13
This is my wife and I each other just for fun and stuff like
3:40:22
that. I tracked this up.
3:40:31
It's good. Because like, if you can't laugh
3:40:33
at yourself, then how can you really laugh at anybody?
3:40:36
Honestly, in my opinion, you gotta have some levity, right?
3:40:39
You gotta have some ability to make fun of yourself on one
3:40:42
level or another, I mean, for him for fuck sakes.
3:40:46
You know I'm blind in my left eye, I have been ever since
3:40:48
birth and people have always use that as a thing to make fun of
3:40:52
me to try and try and used a to get under my skin.
3:40:56
But after you hear enough people insult, you certain my, you just
3:40:59
go. Yep, totally.
3:41:00
Oh, I'm sorry about before I go, you have people in your eye.
3:41:05
Oh yeah, wow, it's fucking ignorant, dude.
3:41:08
There's a lot of things that I can say.
3:41:10
Find a joke about make fun of the way I talk or whatever.
3:41:13
But I don't understand the humor making fun of somebody for
3:41:17
something like that. Yeah, I've never quite
3:41:21
understood. Oh, absolutely people.
3:41:23
To find whatever it is that you that you really care about and
3:41:27
they try to get under your skin with it because it tries, it's
3:41:30
it goes back to what I was talking about earlier in the
3:41:32
sense that it gives them a sense of power, it gives them a sense
3:41:35
of control over that person if they can manipulate their
3:41:38
emotions the way that they want them to.
3:41:40
And honestly as as logical as this may sound and I'm not
3:41:45
trying to take away from the evil of what they're doing but
3:41:49
it's almost more convenient for some people if They don't have
3:41:54
people skills to, to anger, somebody to sad and somebody to
3:41:59
make their day worse than it is to make them happy and to uplift
3:42:04
them, there's both that. And then there's the fact that
3:42:07
there's not really much manipulation and making somebody
3:42:09
happy. There's not really much
3:42:11
controlling in that aspect, it's just something that you want to
3:42:14
do to just brighten their day or to make their day better.
3:42:17
There's way more control somebody can derive from making
3:42:21
somebody feel bad. So You can elicit a response
3:42:27
from somebody from being kind or compassion and loving.
3:42:31
So you Hayden. Hey, Cindy your beautiful
3:42:33
wonderful people, you're special God specifically made you.
3:42:38
So you could be in this time to make me smile.
3:42:41
Look at that Samuel. I there it is.
3:42:43
It's beautiful. I'm all right Cindy.
3:42:46
Yes, sir. No, absolutely.
3:42:49
But what in was saying? Because I've heard a lot about
3:42:54
that. And in fact, if you didn't see
3:42:57
the movie that McKinnon, put out yesterday, the weakness of Kent
3:43:00
hovind. I had to narrate in there, a
3:43:04
definition for narcissism, and it talks about their need for
3:43:10
control. And it's not something I can
3:43:15
relate to. So I'm Aidan is kind of helping
3:43:19
me understand. Yeah, it's I say it dominate its
3:43:27
in yeah, I say it because I've had a lot of experience with a
3:43:33
narcissist. There's definitely a fair few of
3:43:35
them in my family. Don't get me wrong.
3:43:37
I love my family and I'm not exactly just going to sit here
3:43:41
and insult them or anything like that, but I'd be lying.
3:43:43
If I told you there weren't some pretty narcissistic people in my
3:43:47
family. So when you grow up with those
3:43:48
people, when you experience their behaviors, it's difficult.
3:43:52
It's a slowly if you have empathy with in.
3:43:55
Yeah, if you really want to understand people, it's not
3:43:58
necessarily trying to mimic them or anything like that but
3:44:01
understand why they're doing this understand what motivation
3:44:05
that they have for things like this because in my personal
3:44:08
opinion with humans especially there's nothing that somebody
3:44:13
does that does not have some kind of motive to it.
3:44:16
I've never seen anything demonstrated to me, no matter
3:44:18
what somebody does. There's always whether it's
3:44:21
something that they know why. They're doing it or it's a
3:44:23
subconscious thing. There's always a reason for
3:44:26
everything. There's always a logic of some
3:44:28
kind for, it could be the most ignorant, the most far-flung
3:44:32
kind of logic possible that wouldn't make any sense to you
3:44:34
or me, or Joe, Blow on the street.
3:44:37
But for that person, it's the reality of the situation.
3:44:41
There was that one guy that was on the show.
3:44:43
The last time I was trying to join, but I had work and then my
3:44:47
fiance wanted to spend time with me after.
3:44:49
So I couldn't go on that one show you had last time.
3:44:53
But there was that guy that was talking about something along
3:44:55
the lines of like in 2003, there was some like some battle
3:45:00
between Christ and Satan, you know, that makes no sense for
3:45:03
us. And I'm not saying he's
3:45:04
necessarily a narcissist, it's just an example of that makes
3:45:08
complete sense to him. That is a part of his mythology
3:45:11
that he's built up within himself that narrative that
3:45:13
everybody has to go through their lives with because
3:45:16
everybody has to have some kind of narrative.
3:45:18
I'm sorry, but nobody is able to understand 100% of everything.
3:45:22
There's gaps that need to be filled in.
3:45:24
There's parts of your life that need explaining within yourself.
3:45:29
I think it's really a question of how much of that somebody
3:45:32
has, because some people, they try to have as little of those
3:45:36
gaps as possible, this little inference into things as
3:45:39
possible, and as much understanding, but then there's
3:45:42
people like that guy that not necessarily in an insulting way,
3:45:45
but they feel more comfortable living within that Narrative of
3:45:50
the their own creation. They feel more comfortable.
3:45:52
All thinking with all of their heart that this is the case
3:45:55
because for whatever reason that you and I could never
3:45:58
understand, that's just what they derive comfort from.
3:46:04
Or control or control. I think that goes more back into
3:46:08
the, the realm of narcissism that we were discussing earlier.
3:46:11
Because the yeah, there's definitely I think that even
3:46:13
though, even though they're not always related to each other, I
3:46:17
think they're very comorbid with each other.
3:46:19
Because I think if you build narratives around yourself,
3:46:22
especially if you build narratives around others, it's
3:46:25
extremely tempting to try and control them to conform to that
3:46:30
narrative because it's one thing to think that something is the
3:46:33
case, but too. I make that the reality is
3:46:36
something that they derive a lot of pleasure from it seems.
3:46:41
Well and even full on knowing it's not reality.
3:46:44
Still trying to make other people conform to it.
3:46:50
Yeah. Oh yeah.
3:46:52
That's It's the human mind is such an incredibly complicated
3:46:59
thing. You know, it's there's so many
3:47:03
different Avenues and aspects of it.
3:47:04
Even with all of our advancements that we've had over
3:47:07
the last couple of centuries of scientific development, it's
3:47:10
something that we're really only now beginning to scratch the
3:47:13
surface of understanding and really actually getting to the
3:47:15
bottom of. But I think to one extent or
3:47:18
another, these things that we we have these diseases these, these
3:47:22
ailments and a really good example, A love.
3:47:25
That is something like as autism, it's not a disease.
3:47:29
I'm not going to say autism is a disease, but it's definitely an
3:47:32
ailment of of the genes and the ailment of the Mind in that they
3:47:37
can't quite think the same way that we can.
3:47:40
And a lot of people think that at least, especially nowadays, A
3:47:44
lot of people think that autism is a newer thing that it's only
3:47:47
come across about in, the, over the last, like 20, or 30 years.
3:47:50
Thanks to things like television.
3:47:52
Thanks to things like social media.
3:47:54
I don't necessarily think that they're completely unrelated.
3:47:57
I think there's definitely a chance that there could be a
3:48:00
higher preponderance of those things because of that but
3:48:03
there's always been people that have had those conditions.
3:48:06
There's always been people that have had these disabilities
3:48:08
these ailments but there's different ways of interpreting
3:48:11
them and a good example of that is actually going back to a
3:48:15
topic we were discussing earlier which was Eastern Orthodoxy in
3:48:19
the Eastern Orthodox way of thinking.
3:48:20
These people that were crazy, you know, like Grass Boot and
3:48:23
he's a great example. That these people that are
3:48:25
viewed as insane, they actually viewed them as more, Lucid than
3:48:29
us, they viewed them as closer to God, and closer to 2, to it
3:48:35
at a, to a Heavenly experience than we are.
3:48:38
Because they're more detached from from the Earthly Affairs of
3:48:41
reality. Because they care more about
3:48:43
those abstract things that we can't necessarily understand.
3:48:47
So my point is essentially, is that there's always been these
3:48:50
different outlooks that we've had of these ailments and these
3:48:54
missions that people suffer and it's really dependent on a how
3:48:59
much knowledge you have about it and be what context your Society
3:49:03
is going into as far as their view on that thing and luckily
3:49:07
for Western Society, it seems we're really starting to come
3:49:10
around to the point where when it comes to these conditions
3:49:14
that people are born with, you can't judge them for something
3:49:18
that they can't control, really, I'll stop rambling.
3:49:21
Now, I go in on a really long ramble there.
3:49:23
I don't mean to put you guys to sleep.
3:49:24
Got a question for you both. You guys like coffee or tea?
3:49:28
I love T. Have a huge T guy.
3:49:31
Well that's might help you out. Oh yeah.
3:49:38
Nice, nice. I didn't know you had the bug.
3:49:41
That's awesome. Yeah, also I just recently did
3:49:45
this thing all you got a t-shirt and a yeah, not like my one
3:49:50
called Brett Keen Legend. They like that.
3:49:54
The other night I don't. Can you explain that to me?
3:49:59
ET. Oh, there's a lien thing.
3:50:03
We talked about in the background here.
3:50:07
I saw it on your website and I didn't understand it.
3:50:12
Okay, I'll put this forth for you guys.
3:50:15
Cindy head or Aiden. Have you guys ever heard of
3:50:17
something called a humanzee before?
3:50:21
No, I can do they have. All right so you guys are going
3:50:25
to probably really find this exciting a Stalin and Adolf
3:50:28
Hitler, the Nazis in the stalinist, they believed that
3:50:31
they could actually breed humans with apes monkeys.
3:50:38
All this. This is a human chimp like
3:50:40
hybrid. Well, they tried actually tried.
3:50:45
Yeah, there are some people out there that believe that they
3:50:47
succeeded and also from it, a lot of Is like gene, splicing
3:50:52
came into existence. Well, my book is obviously a
3:50:55
made-up story, but the idea is that the Nazis didn't succeed at
3:50:59
doing this, but because they were halted in the war, these
3:51:03
creatures were set loose on the world and I don't want to spoil
3:51:09
it for you guys but it is pretty neat because a lot of them have
3:51:12
very a lot of animal abilities and things that just make them
3:51:17
unbelievably, bad ass POF. Yeah, I told in paperback and
3:51:22
ebook need. That's awesome.
3:51:25
No I if people are trying to claim that you can read a human
3:51:30
and a chimpanzee and you know, it's it just doesn't make any
3:51:36
sense to me because that goes against the entire idea of
3:51:38
speciation, right? If you have a species and a
3:51:42
different species, like for example, a human and a champ
3:51:46
that means that their genes have diverged so much to the point
3:51:49
where they can't produce any kind of artistic Offspring.
3:51:51
So it's just classic Nazi, pseudoscience bullshit.
3:51:56
Same way that they thought that they could find the city of
3:51:58
Atlantis or something like that. You know, they were, they had
3:52:00
some far-out fucking beliefs Beyond, just the whole, wait a
3:52:04
minute. If evolution were true, then the
3:52:09
species would be fluid. Well, they believe that one of
3:52:15
the things that has argued that if species has sex with another
3:52:19
species, the reproduction isn't going to be compatible.
3:52:23
And even if it does produce something you'll end up with, I
3:52:26
think a Lycra where it can't produce, but it'll have no
3:52:30
sterile being color, but the humanzee thing you both.
3:52:34
It's disgusting. Apparently, when the scientists
3:52:37
were first starting this out, they clearly were idiots.
3:52:41
They didn't originally start out where they were.
3:52:43
In insertions or syringes, they literally put women in rooms
3:52:47
with these wild ass Hannibal's and tried to get them to do
3:52:51
things. And that way a lot of people got
3:52:54
hurt and scientists who said we don't think this is compatible,
3:52:58
they were shot right on the spot.
3:53:01
It's one of the reasons why whenever I hear some non
3:53:03
believers say that atheist treat science was so much honor and
3:53:07
respect. Yeah.
3:53:08
Until you can't do what they want you to do that.
3:53:13
Come on. You guys are missing my point.
3:53:23
If evolution were true, then we were and we were always evolving
3:53:28
into new species then. That would make sense.
3:53:35
We don't necessarily always evolved Evolution isn't
3:53:38
necessarily a constant process because there are certain
3:53:41
species that seem to not only converge something known as
3:53:45
convergent. Evolution.
3:53:46
Trees are a great example of this because most trees that we
3:53:50
think of being very similar to one, another are actually
3:53:53
evolved from very different things that eventually converged
3:53:56
into a very similar design because the environments that
3:54:00
they were that they were growing in and the environments that
3:54:03
they Adapted to overtime. We're so similar to one another
3:54:08
that they can produce convergent evolution.
3:54:10
So there is definitely periods where an environment is.
3:54:13
So common for such a long period of time that there isn't any
3:54:18
real pressures to allow different mutations to propagate
3:54:23
in the same way that they would in a more constantly changing
3:54:26
environment. And a good example of this is
3:54:29
the fact that in places like the Amazon or the Congo, rainforest
3:54:33
sees, very few places that have still survived.
3:54:36
Millions and millions of years compared to other periods like
3:54:39
in the Carboniferous period where there was a lot more
3:54:42
rainforests on the planet. There are still a lot of species
3:54:45
that inhabit. Those forests, the biodiversity
3:54:47
is so high in those regions compared to others because it
3:54:51
has been such a consistent environment for so long.
3:54:54
That these species really haven't needed to have adapted
3:54:57
or changed nearly as much as others.
3:54:59
So, I don't necessarily agree with this idea.
3:55:01
That evolution is always a constantly moving process.
3:55:05
It really depends on what environment you're in and it
3:55:09
depends on how quickly that environment is evolving or
3:55:12
changing in and of itself. And I know you don't necessarily
3:55:15
agree with older than know that you're a young Earth
3:55:17
creationist. But there are definitely
3:55:20
evidence is that we can see in in dating of different things.
3:55:25
Yes, carbon dating is one of the methods of dating but it is not
3:55:28
the only method that we have for dating.
3:55:31
There are biometric dating that we have.
3:55:33
That's actually become a lot more advanced than Things like
3:55:36
carbon dating. It's actually began to be a bit
3:55:38
of an outmoded way of dating things, ice layers within places
3:55:42
I can turn to cover another great example.
3:55:45
We can prove that these layers accumulate over time by things.
3:55:48
Like if we take a layer out of the Antarctic that we predict
3:55:52
was before the Industrial Revolution, then lo and behold
3:55:56
we have a layer that isn't filled with lead and coal dust
3:56:00
and all these different human contaminants that is in fact in
3:56:03
these later layers so you can definitely we see that there's a
3:56:06
pattern in these things. You can go far enough back and
3:56:11
you can look at these conditions on the planet more or less in
3:56:14
certain areas. It's why I've have either one of
3:56:17
you, if either one of you ever heard of the Bronze Age
3:56:19
collapse? Well, I was going to say the
3:56:22
Cindy before we go into a different topic is we're going
3:56:25
deep into something else. Just before we do that, aren't
3:56:29
back on Humanity issue. See nothing linking your logic
3:56:33
about that. Why wouldn't there be?
3:56:36
And kind of compatibility if that's the case, that's what
3:56:38
they believed back then. That's the reason why they even
3:56:41
attempted to do the experiments in the first place.
3:56:43
That was their logic. That was their logic.
3:56:47
We exactly what you're talking about.
3:56:49
However, as mr. Aiden, has pointed out.
3:56:52
And also what they have discovered later is that their
3:56:56
claim is that something has evolved to the point where it's
3:57:00
reproduction system is so different are unique, compared
3:57:04
to the original or Or common ancestor that it's not able to
3:57:08
produce anymore. It's too complex at that point.
3:57:11
So I made the door because of the fictional story.
3:57:14
I wrote I made sure to put this kind of Marvel concept to it
3:57:20
where they manipulated the genetics to why I create the
3:57:25
thing. Yes.
3:57:27
Can I share well the announce Sure.
3:57:30
Go ahead the ice course. Yeah, go ahead.
3:57:35
Um where do you live? I live in Canada.
3:57:42
So you have snow yes and good health care.
3:57:45
Damn it. I ain't got no.
3:57:49
Do you get in a winter where I live in Canada?
3:57:54
You know what? Here, I don't know the specific
3:57:56
number but I'll look it up real quick.
3:57:57
I'll just take me a second. Don't put anything on the screen
3:58:01
cuz he's bad, but it's on my phone.
3:58:04
Don't you worry? Yeah, I'm not sure Well, I died,
3:58:10
whatever. I don't care.
3:58:12
Yeah. I always get nervous when people
3:58:14
do this and neither like so Brett where do you live?
3:58:19
An example of where I used to live, very close to Canada.
3:58:25
I used to live in Minnesota. Okay, and we would get snow
3:58:33
storms where you'd get a 5-foot dump, sometimes you ever get
3:58:38
those. Oh, I've definitely gotten those
3:58:41
before. Okay.
3:58:44
So how many storms do you think are in a winter?
3:58:50
Oh, a large amount of huge variety of storms.
3:58:53
So, if you get a five foot dump, couple of times a year, Okay.
3:59:02
That's 15 feet. If you get three of them in a
3:59:05
year, and yet, if you look at those ice layers, they're
3:59:11
telling you that like a millimeter is a winter.
3:59:16
Well, the reason why that is the very small amounts are represent
3:59:22
a season. Yes.
3:59:24
And that is due to something known as glaciation.
3:59:27
That's something that we can observe in.
3:59:29
Even modern-day glaciers that we can see their former fall apart
3:59:33
and I really good example of that actually is the glacier
3:59:37
that we have bamf. Actually, that is still
3:59:40
currently feeding into a major lake here and it's the fact that
3:59:45
Most of the time in the environments that you're talking
3:59:48
about right now. It's not cold enough that snow
3:59:51
will remain all winter long or all year round rather.
3:59:55
You know there's going to be periods in the year where it
3:59:57
gets warm enough, that all of that snow gets melted away but
4:00:01
there are certain points in the Earth's history and certain
4:00:03
points on Earth. Right now, whether there is no
4:00:06
point in time where snow is not falling where snow is not
4:00:10
accumulating. And because snow is a very dense
4:00:14
thing because when it's called They exposed to cold
4:00:16
temperatures, it turns into ice, it becomes a very heavy thing.
4:00:20
It becomes a very dense thing that is very, very, very heavy
4:00:25
and large quantities. I'm sure you've seen really
4:00:27
giant icicles of somebody snaps a giant icicle off of somebody's
4:00:31
roof. It's going to take a fucking air
4:00:33
conditioner off the side of the building because it's a huge
4:00:36
dense object. So if you have this ice and it's
4:00:39
building up and it's building up over this huge amount of time,
4:00:43
it's going to compress to the point where there's a very small
4:00:48
amount of it that still does represent a longer period of
4:00:52
time in the same way. That if you go to the Grand
4:00:55
Canyon, or anywhere else on the planet where you see all of
4:00:57
these different geological layers built up, they used to be
4:01:01
much larger. They used to be a much wider
4:01:04
slice of the picture because they used to be the terrain that
4:01:07
made up that area. There's going to be a lot more
4:01:09
variation in it at that point in time when it's first made.
4:01:12
So if you can see that in sometimes the ones, Sir to the
4:01:16
surface should still be representing a lot less time
4:01:23
because they haven't been compacted and you're assuming
4:01:26
that like, you know, 5, yeah, can be compacted down into a MM.
4:01:31
Well over a very long period of time.
4:01:33
Yes. We're talking hundreds of
4:01:36
thousands of years. That's assuming that the whole
4:01:40
Antarctica is like a similar age then and similarly, compacted,
4:01:48
but not have you heard of the Lost.
4:01:50
Squadron the last 500. A little bit of it you but you
4:01:59
probably have to refresh me on some of the details of it
4:02:02
though. Well, in one of the world wars,
4:02:08
some of the second airplanes went down.
4:02:12
And so they know the year they went down, 1948, and then I
4:02:19
think in the 80s or something, one of the pilots wanted to go
4:02:24
and get his plane back and so they knew exactly it was 48
4:02:29
years. Between the time, it went down
4:02:32
and the time. They recovered it.
4:02:34
Yes. And the amount of ice was not
4:02:37
what you're being told. Well, yeah.
4:02:40
So they know in 48 years it was like 200 feet or something.
4:02:47
Yeah. Because like I was talking about
4:02:49
earlier that's it's not something that instantaneously
4:02:52
happens and that's what I'm trying to stress to you right
4:02:55
now is the fact that yeah, in 48 years time it's not going to
4:02:59
compress all that much it. Not going to change all that
4:03:02
much. Because in the grand scale of
4:03:04
things, 48 years is a long time for you and me because we're
4:03:08
very temporal beings. We really don't exist on the
4:03:10
grand scale of the Earth for all that long but if you extrapolate
4:03:14
enough time, if you give it enough time to actually really
4:03:18
set in and accumulate, in the same way that those Rock layers
4:03:21
do that, I was talking to you earlier, then you're going to
4:03:24
see changes that are absolutely impossible to see any human
4:03:27
lifetime. You're going to see changes that
4:03:30
we can prove happened because of the way that it's deposited.
4:03:34
We can prove in the way that I was talking about earlier.
4:03:36
We can measure it so precisely that we can see the difference
4:03:40
in a nice before things like industrialization happened.
4:03:43
I mean, he'll, we can see isolators in places like
4:03:46
Greenland of the Roman era because of the amount of
4:03:49
pollution that they created from all of their factories, not
4:03:52
industrial factories with like steam engines, but like these
4:03:56
huge manufacturing warehouses with thousands of people working
4:03:59
in them and all of these. Forges pumping out the smoke all
4:04:02
the time. We can see the layer where
4:04:05
things like that happened and we can predict in other parts of
4:04:08
the world based on that, we're when this happened based on
4:04:13
those layers. Because even though it's not
4:04:16
universally consistent, it doesn't necessarily pack the
4:04:19
same way everywhere because there's variations in
4:04:21
temperature across the planet. If you have an area in
4:04:25
Antarctica that has around the same temperature as Greenland
4:04:29
and is had that vulture stay the same for a decent amount of
4:04:33
time. You're going to see a relatively
4:04:34
similar picture, it's really more down to the environment.
4:04:38
It's down to a long enough period of time.
4:04:40
And I think that's one of the biggest things that creationists
4:04:43
get held up on in a big way is the fact that a lot of what
4:04:46
we're talking about is something that we can't necessarily
4:04:50
observe in a human lifetime because we are such a
4:04:53
short-lived animal in comparison to the totality of our Earth's
4:04:57
history. It's something that you would
4:04:59
only be able to observe if you had a hundred thousand years to
4:05:02
live, if they're going to do an ice core, doesn't the core
4:05:07
include the top and go down like a hundred feet or something.
4:05:13
Usually, when it comes to Scientific deposits relating to
4:05:18
ice cores. They will drill a certain layer
4:05:20
down before they actually get the boring machine into there
4:05:23
because it's only made for a certain kind of ice.
4:05:26
There's different layers of it, like you said, there's freshly
4:05:29
deposited material that I think it's typically up to about.
4:05:34
About 80 years or so before it really actually begins
4:05:37
compressing, really actually begins just like start just
4:05:42
really get packed down. And I mean, even in the short
4:05:45
term, you can see this in a microcosm.
4:05:48
That's why things like ice happen in the first place.
4:05:51
It's because water is a material that's actually unique in the
4:05:54
universe and the sense that it's the only, it's the only liquid
4:05:59
that is more dense than its solid form.
4:06:03
And that The unique property, how they would have to
4:06:06
completely grade. The core depending on how thick
4:06:11
it was. But then, why do we do thing is
4:06:16
millions of years old? Well, but if there's millions of
4:06:20
years between then, and now that means each layer is going to be
4:06:26
a different age. Yes, it is a different age.
4:06:32
A different amount of compaction.
4:06:34
You can't just say A millimeter is a year because I don't think
4:06:40
they could sorry. Sorry, I'm not trying to
4:06:43
interrupt you. Like I said, there's a bit of a
4:06:44
delay, I think you're finished but you're not, I'm sorry.
4:06:48
Yeah. It just seems highly imprecise
4:06:55
you guys coming in on Wednesday. I'm sorry.
4:06:58
I can't. I unless you, unless you keep
4:07:01
going up to 11:00 or time, it's like what I've been telling you
4:07:05
a couple times here. I've been working 40 hour weeks
4:07:07
here so I'll start at 3 o'clock, it was time and ended at 11:00
4:07:12
your time so I can see what I can do.
4:07:15
But if not I'll at least show up in the chat, ask a couple
4:07:18
questions or something like that.
4:07:20
I might next week depending on what people say, I think I put a
4:07:25
video out or something. Masked.
4:07:26
People, what would be a good time for everybody?
4:07:29
Because I know there's a lot of other podcasts out there, do
4:07:32
things at 7:00. And I've noticed now that
4:07:35
there's a couple that are doing it, nine and I know people are
4:07:38
picky. They don't want to have to
4:07:40
choose between their favorites. Yeah, I got to figure something
4:07:44
out. I don't know where you are, but
4:07:45
it's 1:00 in the morning here and I can't do this habitually.
4:07:50
Yeah, that's fair enough. It's 12 here.
4:07:53
I've got to do a bit of school work before I head off to bed.
4:07:56
But you know what? I've still got enough time to at
4:07:58
least chat for a little bit longer.
4:07:59
I'm young, I got the Vitality, we're about to send to your
4:08:04
mother. Indeed you got some energy left
4:08:08
in you. Yeah.
4:08:10
Unfortunately. Well I didn't mean it that way.
4:08:17
What I mean is I wish I was like on a regular schedule so I could
4:08:21
get up in the morning but I I get my energy late at night
4:08:27
screws me up. Yeah if we can do if we try to
4:08:29
do a live show during the early day there's not very many
4:08:34
viewers at that point. I don't know.
4:08:36
The deal is one that people have to be real to people that are
4:08:41
at. Yeah, a lot of people are
4:08:42
working. A lot of people are at school or
4:08:44
different things like that, typically things related to
4:08:46
that. I hope my video ends up helping
4:08:51
these young ladies and some kind of way and be able to get their
4:08:55
side of the story out as well as as well as helping other people
4:08:59
were having similar issues and problems and all that.
4:09:03
And then Rob, think it's precious that you want to help
4:09:06
Brett. No.
4:09:07
Absolutely, you know, like he's as far as he's concerned one
4:09:12
thing that he's always, always done, is that he's never been
4:09:16
afraid of call. People out when they're doing
4:09:20
really shitty. Things, even back in the atheist
4:09:23
days, I remember a video that you made.
4:09:27
I'm trying to think of the atheist that you were not not
4:09:31
calling out there actually was the opposite.
4:09:33
You were trying to support them because they said one thing that
4:09:36
the rest of the community didn't like and they all just dog piled
4:09:40
on them and you were basically making the point.
4:09:42
Like I you just wanted another Captain Awesome.
4:09:44
Where you could just manipulate them and make them your puppet,
4:09:48
and do whatever you want. But here's this guy, he doesn't
4:09:51
want to do that. So you all just decide to jump
4:09:54
ship and just fucking leave them behind.
4:09:56
What a I'm trying to get at is that you've never been a
4:09:59
stranger for calling people out for shitty Behavior.
4:10:02
There's been a couple people though that I've stood up for
4:10:05
where they down the line ended up doing some really stupid
4:10:09
shit, and then that gets me basically buried in the sand,
4:10:13
Onision is a person, I felt sorry for a little bit there and
4:10:17
I defended them and they went on to becoming a.
4:10:21
Well, speaking of the narcissist piece of trash that guy turned
4:10:25
into a real shit pile. And then there was another one,
4:10:28
there was a young man by the name of dinner Fillion.
4:10:30
He used to make a mistake video. The guy that I was thinking of,
4:10:33
Ginger aphelion. Yeah, he had a lot of really,
4:10:36
really good arguments and points and after I defended him like
4:10:41
two weeks later, he makes a video saying that he doesn't see
4:10:45
anything wrong with having sex with kids.
4:10:48
So after he yeah why do you think his name was tender?
4:10:53
Yeah, I got the video up on my unfortunately got Because that's
4:10:57
one of the things that I'd just like to do they like so Brett
4:11:00
turns on people. Yeah if you make a video arguing
4:11:04
for rape and child molestation that you think it's perfectly
4:11:07
normal to trying to normalize it then.
4:11:10
Yeah. All of a sudden you lose my
4:11:11
vote. That's the way it works.
4:11:13
I'm sorry they're getting kidding.
4:11:16
Yeah. So I took something that was one
4:11:18
of the things that was brought up on the DP to me they said
4:11:20
well you fought for them to Philly and then you turned on
4:11:23
him. I said yeah because he was
4:11:24
talking about banging kids. I'm a Father, I have a daughter
4:11:28
and son, how the hell am I going to get up here?
4:11:30
And think that that's okay, to do, you know, I'd have to be
4:11:33
sick or mental or something. Oh, okay.
4:11:37
Yeah, yeah. No, it's yeah.
4:11:40
Yeah, no kidding. Well, I think the video and up
4:11:44
against a bully, you're going to get backlash and a lot of
4:11:49
Christians are damn chicken. They won't stand up against a
4:11:54
bully because they don't want the freaking back.
4:11:56
Clash. Well, yeah, they're not on both
4:12:00
sides of the aisle Sandy. It's same way whether you're an
4:12:04
atheist and you try to stand up for what you think is, right?
4:12:07
You're going to get burned. It's not just a matter of people
4:12:10
thinking that they're right and you're wrong.
4:12:13
Aren't the internet people want to be the king or the big
4:12:16
popular person or the one who's most relevant and they're
4:12:19
willing to bury someone who's good.
4:12:21
Just so they can get using all that.
4:12:23
It's hateful but he has seen on both sides.
4:12:26
I thought for some Some people in The Atheist during that time,
4:12:30
I don't know if Hayden realizes it, but my agenda at the time
4:12:34
was atheists were looked at as the least trusted in the world.
4:12:37
They were looked at as villains pieces of shit at that time, I
4:12:41
wanted to normalize. I wanted people to realize look
4:12:43
where we're families where your friend were the people you work
4:12:47
with? You probably don't even know,
4:12:50
but it got really hard to argue with people about morality when
4:12:53
I was getting shit thrown in my face every single day.
4:12:57
You know. Yeah no that's that's fair
4:13:01
enough. I mean it's It's such a
4:13:08
difficult situation. He goes back into what I was
4:13:10
saying earlier about. Like it's so easy to lump people
4:13:13
into groups. It's so easy to get everybody
4:13:16
into one category or to think of them in one way.
4:13:19
And it's easy because we're creatures of convenience, like,
4:13:23
really at our core. That's what we've always been
4:13:25
about. It's why we got oxen to plow our
4:13:28
Fields. It's why we have computers to do
4:13:30
so much of our thinking, for us these days, it's why we have
4:13:34
cars to prevent us from having to walk.
4:13:36
It's why we have horses. Is to prevent us have to walk.
4:13:38
If you look far enough back in history, we've always sought out
4:13:42
the most convenient path forward.
4:13:44
The path of least resistance. And I think that while that's
4:13:47
certainly got us a lot of Innovations while that's
4:13:49
certainly got us a lot of things that are good.
4:13:52
It's definitely a double-edged sword in the fact that there's a
4:13:57
lot of, there's a lot of apathy that comes with convenience,
4:14:00
apathy, and convenience, or so comorbid with each other because
4:14:03
of it's easy to take the path of least resistance in the Physical
4:14:07
world and it's also easy to take the path of least resistance in
4:14:11
the moral world. It's easy to do the easiest way
4:14:14
forward and I think that's almost in a way what correct me
4:14:18
if I'm wrong, but I think that's what Cindy Lincoln was getting
4:14:21
into in the fact that there's a lot of people that are so scared
4:14:25
of the challenges that come with challenging somebody's beliefs
4:14:28
challenging, somebody's opinions are actions that they'll just
4:14:32
stand aside and they'll let it happen and pretend like they
4:14:34
don't know about it or try to justify it and Mine's because
4:14:38
that's just the path of least resistance is the easiest way
4:14:41
forward. That's not it's going back into
4:14:43
the fact that it's not me trying to excuse their behavior.
4:14:47
It's just the best way to combat these things.
4:14:50
The best way to minimize these ill effects on our society is to
4:14:54
recognize how they work and to use that recognization to work
4:14:58
against it because you really can't fight an enemy that you
4:15:01
don't understand. In my opinion, if you try to
4:15:04
censor something, if you try to push it into the dirt, Dirt and
4:15:07
you try to make it so it can't be talked about then when it
4:15:10
rears its ugly head back into society, then people aren't
4:15:14
going to have any proper ways of combating it and argument sense
4:15:17
of form. And that's why I kind of I may
4:15:19
have a bit of a controversial opinion because I don't support
4:15:22
it any more than the next person.
4:15:24
But I think that things like radical communist, radical
4:15:28
fascist all these like different abhorrent ideologies.
4:15:31
I don't think that they should be censored and I don't think
4:15:34
that they should be censored because if you fucking push him
4:15:36
down into the Dirt and you make it so nobody knows about them.
4:15:39
That also means that they don't know the counter-arguments and
4:15:42
when you have a Nazi or you have a communist or you have any of
4:15:45
these people appear on a forum and they get all buddy-buddy
4:15:49
with you, they become your friend.
4:15:51
You don't even know any of these aspects about them, but then
4:15:54
when they're all nice and secure with you, that's when they start
4:15:57
pushing these arguments on you. That's when they start trying to
4:15:59
make these points to you. And when you don't have any
4:16:02
counter Arguments for that because you haven't been taught
4:16:04
any of them, then that's when you start going on.
4:16:07
Oh, maybe they do have a point about this.
4:16:09
Maybe they do have a point about such and such I can't say
4:16:11
otherwise Brett's going to get fucking flagged into the ground,
4:16:15
but I think in a lot of ways, that's how things like
4:16:19
radicalization of been propagating so much these days.
4:16:22
I think it's a consequence of its ironically, a consequence of
4:16:28
people trying to push it away. Because if you don't give it a
4:16:32
platform to be challenged and a platform to be laughed at for
4:16:36
the Ridiculousness that it is, then that's when you start
4:16:39
really getting the dangerous radicals.
4:16:41
That really truly don't know what they're doing or talking
4:16:43
about, you know, Cindy is absolutely right about what she
4:16:47
was saying earlier. I mean, I dumped her and what
4:16:49
atheist did a while back, but as far as Christians are concerned,
4:16:53
there's a lot of cowards in the Christian Community as well and
4:16:57
I got no problem with saying something about that.
4:17:00
These are Ments like for instance, when I have variety
4:17:03
defended and supported Cindy's right to be able to share her
4:17:06
side, oh, but but can can repent or he can do this, or you can
4:17:11
find, you know, get right with Jesus.
4:17:14
And the issue with this is is that lets say that me and Sunday
4:17:19
were to just sit down and say, oh, the hell with it.
4:17:22
She deletes her entire Channel. Remain silent about her
4:17:25
perspective on it. And then what happens, five
4:17:28
years down the line, when something really fucking Fucking
4:17:31
horrible happens. Then the atheist can go.
4:17:33
Oh look, see see? Boom goes and why didn't nobody
4:17:39
say anything? Why didn't any Christians say
4:17:42
anything? Because she was complicit.
4:17:46
Yeah. But either way, you're damned if
4:17:48
you do, damned if you don't and you have had some Christians who
4:17:52
are telling me nowadays, well, you must be fake.
4:17:54
Don't you realize all the souls are being brought to Jesus and I
4:17:58
said, look, Jesus doesn't need your help.
4:18:00
Our pal. God's going to take you.
4:18:02
You're going to take your not like got some super powers.
4:18:06
He might use you as an instrument sometimes but don't
4:18:09
get a fucking twisted, my friend.
4:18:12
Yeah, he had no sleep. I've got a question for you and
4:18:17
I want to preface that question with the fact that this isn't
4:18:20
what I personally believe. This is what I've seen on.
4:18:23
Actually the Deep Fat fried subreddit.
4:18:27
Are we getting hungry? Yeah, there It was there was a
4:18:31
thread that was actually deleted by one of them because there was
4:18:35
there was a role put on there where they're not allowed to
4:18:37
talk about you. But I saw it before it got
4:18:40
deleted and it basically talked about how Brett Keen.
4:18:45
He did an interview with Kent hovind and he was all
4:18:47
buddy-buddy with him and he was all nice with can't and he was
4:18:51
all cordial, but then he goes and he gets all buddy-buddy with
4:18:55
Cindy. Lincoln who is against Kent and
4:18:59
who's done all of these are Is accusing, can't of doing all of
4:19:02
these horrible things to them. That's just another example of
4:19:05
Brett, being inconsistent in a flip-flop, or what would you say
4:19:08
to those people? What?
4:19:10
Simple. First of all, I didn't know
4:19:12
anything about Sunday Lincoln at the time.
4:19:15
I didn't know anything that was going on, even in the videos
4:19:18
that I do. I say things like, I respect the
4:19:20
guys arguments and all that, and I watch some of the debates and
4:19:23
standing for truth, but I've always pointed out, I don't
4:19:27
know, the guy, personally, I've never been a Dino Land.
4:19:30
I've never been Enter been to Ken hams fucking our core
4:19:33
creation. I'm not some Adventure where I'm
4:19:36
going out and doing pillages and all this kind of stuff.
4:19:40
I don't know. It's it would be like, you ate
4:19:43
and you want somebody on YouTube, you don't know nothing
4:19:45
about them. You're just watching your
4:19:47
hearing your arguments one day. You do a show.
4:19:49
Somebody comes up and they say, hey I'm this person.
4:19:53
This is my relation Association and here's what happened to me.
4:19:57
Next thing, you know, you're putting your hands on your head
4:19:59
going. Oh, fuck.
4:20:01
And now yeah, yeah, exactly. What you were talking about that
4:20:06
other guy that you were quote flip-flopping?
4:20:09
Yeah. When you find out he's banging
4:20:13
children as you put it. Well, you found out the Kent
4:20:17
hovind was abusing his wife stealing donor funds harboring
4:20:22
drug, addicts, and pedophiles something wrong with that.
4:20:27
Yeah, just a little bit. Well, they're always in, Try to
4:20:31
find something fucking ignorant or whatever to bitch about and
4:20:33
all that and complain. But I mean, that's all.
4:20:36
That's how I seen Kent. I've seen his videos.
4:20:39
Also, when I was a younger man, I seen videos of him out.
4:20:42
I never met him. I never home besides hanging out
4:20:45
in social media. Like what we're doing right now
4:20:47
Aidan, as far as I know, whenever you get off the show,
4:20:50
you might go down to your basement.
4:20:52
You got bodies down there, I don't fucking know.
4:20:54
Hey, you keep quiet about that. All right, nothing.
4:21:01
I'll tell you. Whenever first started talking
4:21:03
to her, I was a bit hesitant. I was like, are you able to
4:21:07
prove your Association relationship trick as a prick
4:21:11
about it? I didn't just be like, oh yeah
4:21:14
let's get this shit. The rolling know, I wanted to
4:21:17
know more, I needed to see some information that actually proved
4:21:21
this was relevant and valid. And I felt like she gave more
4:21:24
than an overwhelming amount of information to prove your
4:21:27
fucking point. And that's why we're here today.
4:21:30
So, So, if anybody's got a problem with me fucking having
4:21:33
ears and trying to listen, even though one of them works better
4:21:35
than the other one. Yeah.
4:21:37
Really shit. You know?
4:21:39
Yeah, well my question is always right back at them.
4:21:52
It's like why doesn't it bother you that he's you know these
4:21:59
things. There's so many people, I think
4:22:02
G-Man is actually an example of that, and once again, it's not
4:22:06
trying to talk shit on G-Man or anything like that.
4:22:09
It's just something I've seen in a lot of people is, they get so
4:22:13
attached to the message of that person that they let that not
4:22:19
override. All of the actions that they've
4:22:21
done, but really excuse. A lot of the actions that person
4:22:25
is done. They try to separate the two of
4:22:28
them either. They try to separate them.
4:22:30
Them from each other completely, which I almost I have a
4:22:35
completely different opinion on that.
4:22:36
It's not necessarily positive either.
4:22:38
I think it's the lesser of two evils, but the one that's really
4:22:41
bad. In my opinion is where they
4:22:43
acknowledge that, that's a part of them where they acknowledge
4:22:45
that. The two are still linked
4:22:46
together, but they do excuse making for it.
4:22:50
You know. They they try to say oh, you
4:22:52
know yeah can't open was a piece of real piece of work.
4:22:56
I did all of these bad things to this person but you know what?
4:22:59
He has some really good. It's on Evolution.
4:23:01
It's like, yeah, that doesn't take away from what he did
4:23:03
though. It doesn't taste.
4:23:05
So a about the bit. I don't give a shit at these.
4:23:08
I don't care if he's building a fucking Next Generation, you
4:23:13
know, Star Trek ship, that takes us to the Moon.
4:23:16
Yes, if you're doing shit, the kids, well, we got to talk, you
4:23:19
know. Yeah, he might give on Sunday.
4:23:23
I don't know too much about what happened between you and Kent.
4:23:26
Do you mind if I ask a couple questions and if I do feel free
4:23:30
to just Tell me at any point, I'm not comfortable with that.
4:23:32
I don't want to talk about that. Is that okay?
4:23:34
With you? The word out because I'm getting
4:23:36
slandered, really bad. Now, fair enough, go for it.
4:23:41
How did you come to meet Ken? I had one of my preschool, well
4:23:50
basically, I Googled Bible proofs to prove a point to
4:23:56
someone that was arguing with me kind of.
4:24:01
Anyway, I got, I Googled Bible proofs and I found Kent hovind
4:24:08
and I started watching voraciously, I was basically.
4:24:13
Addicted and I did not understand why I was so
4:24:16
interested, but I already knew his arguments from Henry Morris
4:24:23
and it was something. I'm a, I'm a geography, major, I
4:24:27
was very interested in all that stuff.
4:24:30
And then he, after I finished his seminar series, I started
4:24:37
listening to his modern YouTube's and he was asking for
4:24:40
a landscaper. And I'd always wanted to.
4:24:48
Be a missionary and I had looked into China and Haiti and Africa
4:24:55
and I just didn't have the guts. So, the thought about being a
4:24:59
missionary right here in the United States, as there's a lot
4:25:04
more comforting to you apologists.
4:25:07
I just yeah, so I went and visited fell in love with it,
4:25:11
went back home, sold everything. Rented my house out and moved to
4:25:16
Dinosaur Adventure Land. And I lived there for two years
4:25:22
before I married him. And then I started seeing the
4:25:29
ugly underbelly. I discovered a drug bust and
4:25:34
yeah, it was that was going to be my next question.
4:25:36
Actually was like what were some of the first?
4:25:39
Like real red flags that you started noticing with Ken.
4:25:43
What was the point where you started going?
4:25:44
Ha, there's something going on with this guy.
4:25:48
Well his right-hand Man, Steve Lynn.
4:25:56
Has always had a drug issue. But there was a bust one day
4:26:03
where some people were on Campus High and can't never allowed
4:26:08
that for anybody except for Steve.
4:26:11
And so he called a drug test and Exempted Steve from the test and
4:26:20
had Steve administer the test. Oh my God, and Steve frauded
4:26:28
that Just because the two guys that were most suspect, he had
4:26:34
given the pot or whatever it was at his own house.
4:26:39
So he was trying to cover his butt, to make them look clean
4:26:42
when they were not hmm. And the next day, one of the
4:26:50
guys came up to me and said Cindy I have to tell you the
4:26:56
truth. We were not clean.
4:27:01
We were high and I had all the drug tests on my kitchen
4:27:06
counter. And I said, honey, I've been
4:27:09
wondering how come your test doesn't have the stick in the
4:27:13
plastic box, all the other tests have the stick in there and he
4:27:20
looked down at the ground and he said, I didn't want to tell you
4:27:24
this, Steve told us to put the swab in our pocket. so, So after
4:27:39
let's see, so that's one issue. But when I when so it ended up
4:27:45
that I was accused of lying, the two guys that were high were
4:27:52
accused of lying and we were accused of having a vendetta
4:27:57
against Steve. We were accused of meddling in
4:28:01
business that was none of our business Ava.
4:28:05
And I said to my husband at the time, honey, nobody else is
4:28:09
going to believe that I'm lying. Everybody knows that I'm not a
4:28:12
liar. And everybody here knows that
4:28:15
Steve is a liar and that Steve does do drugs.
4:28:21
And that Kenny and Timmy were doing them with him really said,
4:28:26
okay, let's call a meeting. So there was a meeting and there
4:28:31
were seven of us, their Old Timers and not not new
4:28:36
volunteers but established Faithful workers, and all seven
4:28:42
of us said, the same story. And Kent hovind stuck up for
4:28:47
Steve. Instead of his wife he called
4:28:50
all seven of us liars and said that we were rebelling against
4:28:54
his authority as patriarch of the ministry and that if we
4:29:00
continued to quote attack Steve or speak about the matter that
4:29:07
we would be kicked off campus and that I was the ringleader.
4:29:12
And anybody who at basically he shunned me.
4:29:15
That point everybody on campus was not allowed to text me, talk
4:29:19
to me, be with me or they would be kicked off campus.
4:29:25
And that was the beginning of the end and I left that meeting
4:29:28
crying at the top of my lungs. I had never ever experienced
4:29:32
betrayal, like that with my own precious husband.
4:29:35
Oh, kidding. And when I was, Yeah, brutal,
4:29:41
and when I left crying, I was called a bipolar idiot for
4:29:47
crying so loudly. And that I was being a baby,
4:29:51
trying to get her way. You're expressing your emotions
4:29:55
too strongly. Cindy not allowed to do that.
4:29:58
Like what? Yeah.
4:30:01
And had nothing to do with mental issues, I had to do with
4:30:07
the Betrayal. I just experienced, but that
4:30:09
whole bipolar lie. They kept doing it for a whole
4:30:12
year because they were determined that they had to
4:30:15
cover for Steve. And I had to go because I was
4:30:20
not going to join that cover up, and I didn't realize it.
4:30:23
Until later. I mean, I suspected it but, you
4:30:27
know, I was married. I love the guy.
4:30:29
I thought he was somebody, he wasn't, it took a long time for
4:30:33
me to realize, oh my gosh, this man is a fraud, I fell in love
4:30:39
with a fraud. I was going to ask you.
4:30:43
Is that, could I get that as a specific quote of yours from him
4:30:46
that he called himself, the patriarch of the, the clothes at
4:30:51
the campus? Yes.
4:30:54
Answered Mitchell. And yeah, God called me to run
4:30:57
this ministry and if you don't like how I run the ministry, you
4:30:59
can start your own. Yeah, that's the way that he
4:31:02
describes that because patriarchy has a lot of like
4:31:06
clerical connotations to it in the history of the church.
4:31:09
The fact that he uses that as like I've been appointed as this
4:31:13
override. It's just, it's really a window
4:31:15
into his psyche. In a way, it's a real window
4:31:18
into that aspect. You were talking about before
4:31:20
that narcissism that idea hours. Control.
4:31:24
Yes, power. Yes.
4:31:25
Control dominance. And it went actually a little
4:31:29
bit worse than that. He was actually likened to
4:31:34
Moses. Wow, Moses areas Terry.
4:31:40
Yes, mayor Moses carried the authority of God, if you rebel
4:31:44
against Moses, you're going against God and Kent, hovind
4:31:48
placed himself on that level. And I was called Cora.
4:31:51
I don't know if you know that story.
4:31:55
I can't read alien of Korra. No, right.
4:31:57
Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. There will ya.
4:32:00
They confront Moses and they say that they're tired of the, the
4:32:03
journey that they've been subjected to under him and the
4:32:07
ground opened up and swallowed them down.
4:32:09
Yeah. Yeah.
4:32:10
And I was reminded of that. Basically, I don't threaten
4:32:16
Yeah, it was horrific. I couldn't believe it and I kept
4:32:20
waiting it waiting for it to like be just an exception to the
4:32:25
rule, that that wouldn't be who he really was, you know, but it
4:32:31
became more. The rule, it just seems to come,
4:32:34
you came out of the closet. It became more clear over time
4:32:38
as actual character compared to, when you would basically first
4:32:42
actually gotten to know him in that way, that you had gotten to
4:32:45
know him. Yeah, no.
4:32:47
I mean when I first got to know him he would say sorry if he did
4:32:51
something wrong he would take input which proves that he knows
4:32:59
how to behave. But yeah, that's all just a lie.
4:33:04
It in my personal opinion, I mean, like given both what I
4:33:07
knew about him before and what you're saying to me, I would
4:33:10
honestly say it goes beyond narcissism it seems to almost
4:33:14
fully go into so The opposite of me because narcissist
4:33:19
narcissists are in the realm of. They don't understand how to do
4:33:24
that. They just, it goes back and what
4:33:26
we were saying at the beginning about, you know, once again, I
4:33:30
don't hate the guy but just one of those aspects about Vaughn
4:33:32
health and in the fact that he cannot take criticism, he cannot
4:33:37
be disagreed with and the fact that he will not budge on
4:33:40
things, he won't apologize. Narcissist do not know how to do
4:33:44
that. So see it.
4:33:46
Paris on the other hand, do you know how to do that?
4:33:48
Because they've learned how to they don't actually mean it, but
4:33:52
they've learned that. Okay, I'm going to get what I
4:33:54
want and I'm going to be able to lure this person closer to me,
4:33:58
if I'm able to mimic these emotions, if I'm able to mimic
4:34:01
that, I'm actually sorry about this.
4:34:04
Even though at the core of my being, I really don't know how
4:34:06
to do that. Right.
4:34:09
So I never actually used that term but I have seen videos that
4:34:17
say that when I was doing my research on narcissism but the
4:34:22
term that I use a lot is malignant narcissist which means
4:34:26
a narcissist who enjoys hurting people Oh yeah, I'm sorry to say
4:34:36
that when he was trying to drive me out.
4:34:44
He? He I have audio recordings of
4:34:50
him saying things like won't that get Cindy excited?
4:34:57
Like we're going to take we're going to take the bed out of the
4:35:00
spare room. We're going to take the door off
4:35:02
the hinges so that she has to sleep in my bed and she can't
4:35:05
use the spare room. Hahaha.
4:35:08
Won't that get Cindy excited? Or let's promote Steve to the
4:35:13
board. Instead of disciplining him or
4:35:17
reprimanding him or Defending Your Wife, ahaha, won't that get
4:35:21
Cindy excited. Yeah.
4:35:27
It's it's bad. Oh yeah.
4:35:30
No, it really does sound awful and it's one of those aspects
4:35:35
going back to what I was saying about sociopaths.
4:35:37
Like they they build and it's not related specifically to
4:35:42
sociopaths but it's really comorbid with them in the sense
4:35:45
that they weave these webs of, okay, I'm going to act this way
4:35:50
around this person but then I'm going to change how I act around
4:35:53
this person and then I'm going to completely be a different
4:35:55
person around this purse. Is they can they don't get the
4:36:01
maximum amount of manipulation out of one type of personality.
4:36:05
So they've learned that if I need to act completely different
4:36:08
around somebody else, in order to get my way, then that's what
4:36:12
I'm going to have to do because the only means to an end in my
4:36:15
life. Is that power?
4:36:16
Is that control? Because I think it's honestly
4:36:21
the biggest origin of those people.
4:36:23
We were talking about earlier, those false prophets, these
4:36:25
people that try to claim that they I represent the, you know,
4:36:28
these deity's when in reality they don't it's because they see
4:36:32
this amount of adoration that these people throughout history
4:36:36
of God. In this devotion, this
4:36:38
unquestioning unwavering loyalty that seems so unattainable for
4:36:43
people on the surface, like, people think in their own minds
4:36:46
before it happens to them. I know I could never do that, I
4:36:49
would never become so loyal to somebody that I don't even
4:36:53
question them when they tell me to do unreasonable things, but
4:36:56
know if there's Buddy, that really knows what they're doing.
4:36:59
If there's somebody that can really Master how they act
4:37:02
around you, then they can do whatever they want basically and
4:37:06
have a way to excuse it, around that person.
4:37:09
And some people, they go as far as saying, oh well the person
4:37:12
that was me being manipulated was just being dumb.
4:37:15
They were just they were easily exploited.
4:37:17
They were just, they didn't see what was happening to them or
4:37:20
that you they even go as far as saying they took part in it and
4:37:22
they wanted it to happen to them, some people go as far as
4:37:25
saying and I invite them. They look, he looks for people
4:37:29
who are easily manipulated and he exists.
4:37:37
Yeah, he expects blind obedience and the whole time when I was
4:37:44
objecting, like, you know, I didn't sleep with him that
4:37:47
night. I went in the spare room.
4:37:48
I'm like, are you kidding me? You're going to call me.
4:37:52
Bipolar. And you're going to say I'm at
4:37:57
trying to hurt Steve, when I'm just telling the truth, and you
4:38:01
don't care that basically. Steve just stumbled these two
4:38:05
young Christians who wanted to get off drugs that's why they
4:38:10
came to DAL. And so, and he was expecting me
4:38:15
to just obey. Yes, shut up and obey.
4:38:22
I'm the wife, I have to submit and if that's his decision, I
4:38:27
have to go along with it. And I'm all know.
4:38:33
Yeah, I'm not submitting to abuse.
4:38:36
No. Absolutely.
4:38:38
And you know it's really unfortunate.
4:38:41
I actually I checked the comments of the first time me
4:38:44
and you met the first encounter that we had because every once
4:38:48
in a while, I like looking back on videos, if I've ever been a
4:38:51
part of them or participated them in some way, I like to
4:38:54
check out what people are saying, and there was this one
4:38:57
person that had commented Brett Rae.
4:38:59
I moved it thankfully because it was just, it was ridiculous.
4:39:03
It's like Cindy is a well-known liar.
4:39:05
Why would you have her on there? Something like that?
4:39:07
And it's like, look, you it goes back to what you were saying
4:39:12
with G-Man. You know?
4:39:13
I, I've watched a little bit of the show before I was on and you
4:39:18
basically said to him, look you don't know him like I did
4:39:21
because I lived with this guy, I was there with him.
4:39:24
I shared a portion of my life with this person, I'm going to
4:39:29
be able Say I know them way more than you would ever be able to
4:39:32
Superfluous lie. But these people they have
4:39:36
these, it's called a parasocial relationship where there was
4:39:41
once a to with what you were talking about is somebody wants
4:39:45
to make a video where they want to spend a little bit of effort
4:39:50
showing how it is a know, something's wrong or Ally or
4:39:53
debunk refute or give constructive criticism.
4:39:56
You got my full thumbs up. Fuck I might even fail.
4:39:59
I read the damn thing. If you can show that something
4:40:01
I'm saying is incorrect. However you come over to my
4:40:05
comments, born to say as a fucking person to slouch you
4:40:09
fucking full of shit and that's all you got.
4:40:11
It's like flying wasn't heard. Come sit on my comments board.
4:40:16
Yeah, I know, she'll know, it makes sense.
4:40:19
If it's all that involve, all I got to say is just just garbage
4:40:23
and no substance than. Yeah, why would you have them
4:40:25
there? It's just, he's all right now, I
4:40:28
love these people. Here come the comments partner
4:40:31
like I like that motherfucker. Well, don't watch, you know, I
4:40:34
really love long. Don't don't waste your time then
4:40:37
chat, Google, and we'll can't. That's okay corn.
4:40:42
That that Steve guy that I was talking about is, is Kent's Tech
4:40:45
Guy and so he's got like a hundred fake YouTube identities.
4:40:53
You know, you click on his icon and you'll see this this video
4:40:57
has or this channel has no content.
4:40:59
Aunt. I mean he's just he's, he sends
4:41:02
trolls out and he's and he'll suck again.
4:41:06
Donors call him up and say, hey, what's going on with Cindy?
4:41:10
And he'll tell them all, they have his lies and he'll say, why
4:41:13
don't you go and make comments? He sends trolls out after me who
4:41:18
don't even know what they're talking about.
4:41:19
They just believe him. And while I was about to mention
4:41:25
that actually, I'm sorry, were you still going?
4:41:28
Go ahead. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
4:41:30
I was just, I would like to think that that Brett is
4:41:35
correct, and what he said that, I've got a boatload of evidence
4:41:38
on my YouTube channel. I have like, 15 interviews with
4:41:43
people who are saying the same thing who lived there.
4:41:47
Yeah. The court documentation that you
4:41:50
have, and the charges that went The tender 10,000 dollar company
4:41:55
compensation, for what? It's done to the property to me
4:41:58
that the absolute evidence that can't be argued against for
4:42:02
sure. So I definitely I step up to the
4:42:05
plate for that but I did tell you while back there some videos
4:42:08
where I think it's to the point where you're seeing something or
4:42:14
you're feeling some way about things that are being said, but
4:42:17
I explained that there's a different perspective someone
4:42:20
who doesn't know the deal. Watching from the outside.
4:42:23
It may come off. Like, what?
4:42:25
What is it? What's, what am I supposed to
4:42:27
get from this? Exactly.
4:42:29
Yeah. Yeah.
4:42:31
It can be tough because unfortunately, the way that
4:42:34
things like this work, especially if you are the less
4:42:37
well-known figure in a controversy against somebody, as
4:42:40
big as Kent hovind, it's a lot more effort and I want anybody
4:42:45
that's willing to do it. But you really do when any of
4:42:48
these videos that you're doing, there's a chance that any of
4:42:51
them It could blow up could get really big get a lot of
4:42:55
attention. So for the sake of making sure
4:42:58
that they get the picture and that video because just the way
4:43:01
that analytics work on the internet, it seems that usually
4:43:05
most channels, they'll get not many views but then one video,
4:43:08
we'll just hit that Mark where it's going to get huge traffic.
4:43:13
My point is essentially is though, is that you got to make
4:43:16
sure that you at least tell a decent amount of that story
4:43:20
really thoroughly every single time.
4:43:22
I'm in those videos because that way there's so little doubt what
4:43:25
these people there's so little they can actually say, as far as
4:43:28
substance like oh well you didn't cover this so there's got
4:43:32
to be something wrong with that part of the start.
4:43:34
No, I actually covered it here. Here's the part that I did.
4:43:37
It's more time consuming. It's more effort to put in and
4:43:41
it's a minute. Definitely not mandatory but it
4:43:43
really helps. Silence those detractors that
4:43:46
are trying to go after. Like holes quote-unquote in your
4:43:49
story that you just felt really work necessary to tell them.
4:43:52
A specific unit there is something that, I mean to say
4:43:55
that because I had somebody say, Cindy, you have to stop telling
4:43:59
that same story over and over again.
4:44:06
Yeah, I expected, I expected when we were doing our shows
4:44:11
that there would be more people that would try to come in as
4:44:14
many comments as I've gotten with people making up excuses or
4:44:19
justifications or where this guy should be able to do what.
4:44:21
He's He's doing but none of them seem to want to actually come in
4:44:25
the ring and put out there questions or anything like that.
4:44:29
They don't want to put their face on the camera.
4:44:31
Might they just want to sit back like, doodling, Little Monkeys
4:44:34
and shit and I find that to be absolutely fucking spineless.
4:44:40
And Cindy will always be able to say in the future and he ran
4:44:44
out. Yeah, but I was on all these
4:44:45
shows, the link was made public, you could have come in at any
4:44:49
time, why didn't you Nurses, like it's not like I didn't have
4:44:54
the ability. What?
4:44:58
Because they had the ability to do it, they had the ability to
4:45:01
come in the show. They have the ability to talk to
4:45:03
you about these things. And you know what, like, I may
4:45:07
not necessarily disagree with you about those things, but I
4:45:10
can at least say that, you know, I'm not just gonna sit in your
4:45:13
comments board if you say something about religion, or
4:45:16
something about science that I disagree with and yell at you
4:45:19
like a goddamn ape beat in my chest.
4:45:21
I'm willing to come into the room and I'm willing to talk
4:45:23
with you guys because if you're actually a cordial, Being and
4:45:27
you just have some doubts about something that you're saying,
4:45:30
the in good faith, then I'm sure you'd be willing to sit down
4:45:33
with that person and explain those things to that person.
4:45:37
But most of these people that you and Brett are talking about,
4:45:39
they're not doing that. They're just sitting in these
4:45:41
comments boards. They're just spouting shit that
4:45:44
they don't have any fucking idea about what the actual cases with
4:45:47
it. So they're just being there,
4:45:50
just being reactionary really more than anything else and they
4:45:53
don't really care about the truth.
4:45:55
So this is one of the Seems like that is one of the problems I've
4:45:59
seen in our modern day. And I, I don't know if I talked
4:46:02
about this before Aiden. You know, one of the issues.
4:46:05
I just bring it back. One of the issues I had with
4:46:08
atheism, as I felt like it went towards nihilism, but
4:46:11
Christianity seems to nowadays in modern day.
4:46:14
Also have a form of nihilism. It goes a little bit like this.
4:46:18
Once you believe once you say, you believe in this, you can
4:46:22
pretty much do whatever the hell you want and you're just going
4:46:25
to be fine to me. Perform of meaningless, it has
4:46:29
no value, no intrinsic, nothing to it.
4:46:33
Yeah. There's no real emotion behind
4:46:35
that belief if you're just using it as a means to an end.
4:46:38
If that's all that you want out of it, then you've completely
4:46:41
missed the message of what Christianity is about.
4:46:44
You've completely missed the actual point of it, as a
4:46:47
religion and it kind of goes back to the whole idea that, you
4:46:51
know, there's so many people out there that have whore
4:46:53
Christianity that hated, but they couldn't fucking Bochy a
4:46:57
single goddamn passage in the Bible because they don't
4:46:59
actually know what they're talking about.
4:47:01
They've just been told by somebody else and what I was
4:47:04
touching on earlier but you you're more than free to cut in
4:47:08
at any point because I ramble but I think it's going to be a
4:47:13
lot of people surprised when Judgment Day comes you're gonna
4:47:16
be like I did so much great things.
4:47:18
God. Yeah.
4:47:19
But what about the 50 homeless guys who walked past?
4:47:22
What about the woman on the road who are car broke down and she's
4:47:26
walking Now, by yourself in the rain you just drove right past
4:47:29
her. Yeah.
4:47:30
What about the people out there who were abused or the children
4:47:33
that were sexually assaulted and yet it absolutely fucked?
4:47:37
Nothing. Well, what do they think is
4:47:39
going to happen to have? They forgotten, God is
4:47:42
all-knowing all-powerful and looking at them every second of
4:47:45
the damn day. Yeah, I'll be right back.
4:47:47
I need to smoke. I'm getting too excited.
4:47:50
No problem. No problem.
4:47:53
That's not funny this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:47:57
No, I've got my vape here with me.
4:47:59
I usually doesn't isn't too stinky compared to regular
4:48:02
smoking so I'm allowed to do it in the house fiance says, it's
4:48:06
okay, but it's the same tobacco. No no I try to, I try to get the
4:48:14
less potent stuff, I try to get some of the stuff that's like
4:48:19
week or so that it doesn't make all the walls like all nasty and
4:48:22
stuff. Because I'll tell ya my
4:48:23
grandparents house that I went to before.
4:48:27
My grandfather's always been a real habitual smoker.
4:48:30
He's and smoking as much as he used to.
4:48:32
Thank God, but he was a real bad chain smoker and at the very end
4:48:36
of them living there, we were scrubbing, the walls because we
4:48:39
thought we were going to sell it off to somebody before we found
4:48:42
out about some of the problems with the house.
4:48:44
But anyway, we're scrubbing. These walls and I thought for my
4:48:47
entire life, my whole life Cindy that these walls in the living
4:48:52
room, they were yellow. That was just a natural color.
4:48:54
Know, they were like a grayish But it just turn yellow over
4:49:00
time because of all of this nasty like, nicotine or tobacco,
4:49:05
whatever it is juice that just coats everything.
4:49:07
If you're actually like smoking cigarettes or anything like
4:49:10
that, it's nasty. Oh yeah.
4:49:14
Like I I don't I don't get how smokers can't look at that and
4:49:20
go. Oh my God.
4:49:21
This is what's happening to things that just touch this
4:49:23
smoke. What about all the smoke?
4:49:25
I'm putting in my mind in my Lungs.
4:49:27
What is that doing to me? Like, right.
4:49:30
It's, it's ridiculous. It's but at the same token and
4:49:35
it's kind of my opinion of addicts as well, is that, I
4:49:38
remember you. Brett.
4:49:39
And some other gentlemen, we're talking about addict's the last
4:49:42
show. Actually, I don't know his name
4:49:44
because I never got to speak to the guy too much, but addiction
4:49:50
is such It's such a nuanced topic to talk about because
4:49:55
there's so many aspects to it that we don't really understand
4:49:59
that we're only really beginning to get some kind of insight into
4:50:02
as far as why we do the things that we do when we get addicted
4:50:06
to something. The behaviors that drive us
4:50:08
towards those things and why it's such a difficult thing to
4:50:12
break the habit of because it's a hole that somebody is trying
4:50:17
to fill in their life. It's something that is they
4:50:20
found lacking that they Have before.
4:50:23
And it seems that when they become thoroughly enough
4:50:27
addicted to it, the deleterious effects, it has on them.
4:50:31
Those negative things, it doesn't matter that I'm as much
4:50:34
as filling that hole in their, in their part, or in their life
4:50:38
or something. That's lacking, it could be
4:50:40
anything really. I found, you know, there's of
4:50:43
course, there's the main line addictions that you always hear
4:50:46
about like drug addiction video game addiction, but you can be
4:50:49
really addicted to anything in my opinion.
4:50:52
You can be addicted to jogging every single day because you get
4:50:55
an adrenaline rush out of it. You can get addicted to eating a
4:51:00
bowl of oatmeal every single day because it's, we are just eating
4:51:03
oatmeal all the time because that's a comfort food that you
4:51:06
have, and you find a lot of comfort out of doing it.
4:51:08
So you just form such a habit out of it, that becomes
4:51:11
unhealthy. You know, it's it's such a my
4:51:14
point is all about Comfort. I think it is.
4:51:18
Yeah, I think it is because If they didn't derive, sufficient,
4:51:24
if they didn't derive sufficient, pleasure from it,
4:51:27
whether that pleasure come from being comfortable, whether it
4:51:30
come from getting a rush, whether it come from anything
4:51:33
like that, it's made must be more more enticing to them than
4:51:40
the negative effects that come from it and that really does
4:51:44
speak to how strong those urges are within us.
4:51:46
How necessary it is for us to get that comfort in our lives,
4:51:51
because we're willing to Sacrifice so much for that.
4:51:54
If we do get addicted to these things and denial to I think it
4:52:02
definitely plays a huge component in it.
4:52:05
I'm really grateful for the fact that, as far as I know, I've
4:52:10
never been addicted to anything in my life.
4:52:12
I've never had the pointed out to me that.
4:52:14
I'm addicted to anything in my life and I can't speak from
4:52:17
experience, but I can't speak from secondhand experience over
4:52:21
the fact that I've known a fair amount of addicts and I've asked
4:52:25
them, like, I had a best friend that I didn't know up until a
4:52:29
decent amount of time that I was friends with the But he had a
4:52:32
really bad, not only just a crack addiction but a crack and
4:52:35
heroin addiction like this guy was indeed.
4:52:39
He was functional. He was, I won't even he was he
4:52:43
was a cook at a we have this restaurant chain over here in
4:52:47
Canada called the Husky and he worked over at this husky place
4:52:52
and he was known as like the guy as far as cooking was concerned
4:52:57
and I'll admit he made a couple of dishes when I was at his
4:53:00
place even After I found out about what was going on with
4:53:03
them and they'll knock your socks off, like he makes a good
4:53:06
fucking meal but you never would have known until I actually
4:53:09
found out from the horse's mouth.
4:53:11
Yeah, I'm doing this stuff. Like I went to his place one day
4:53:14
I was just going to hang out with the guy guy pulls out his
4:53:17
spoon. He's got some of this fucking
4:53:18
garbage. He's loading on it.
4:53:20
I'm like, what are you fucking doing, man?
4:53:22
Because like, I've seen depictions of heroin and movies
4:53:25
and whatnot. I'm like, dude, are you serious?
4:53:27
Is this what you're doing? Yeah, this is what I'm doing, if
4:53:30
you don't want to. At them, just get out of here,
4:53:32
and that's what I did. I vote again, I left because I'm
4:53:35
not going to be around that shit.
4:53:37
I've already had enough people in my personal life fall victim
4:53:40
to that stuff, but my point is, is that In anything even
4:53:45
something as strong as heroin and crack.
4:53:49
Like I diction of both of those things.
4:53:51
People can function in the sense that you would never know that
4:53:55
they were on these things unless you told them and that blew my
4:53:58
mind because I knew that there was alcohol inks.
4:54:03
I knew that there were functional out TV on TV, it
4:54:06
makes it look like they're all like you know on the streets and
4:54:09
stuff. Yeah.
4:54:11
Yeah. No.
4:54:11
And there definitely are. That's not to say that there
4:54:13
aren't People that completely better take over their life,
4:54:17
that just make it their entire identity.
4:54:19
That make it the only thing that they want in life.
4:54:22
But at the same time there are a lots of people that can do these
4:54:26
awful things and still appear like completely well-adjusted
4:54:30
functioning members of society. And I think that's a part of
4:54:34
addiction that people find really, really uncomfortable and
4:54:37
really hard to look at is the fact that there's probably a
4:54:41
couple of people in your life. Any one of you that I'm Talking
4:54:44
to you. That you think you're perfectly
4:54:46
well-adjusted people but they could well be doing a line once
4:54:50
in a while even even once a day or they could be hitting the
4:54:52
crack pipe or anything like that.
4:54:54
Because it's such a prolific issue in our society right now.
4:54:59
And because it's such a prolific issue because it affects so many
4:55:03
people in my personal opinion, I find it so much more difficult
4:55:08
to negatively judge them because it seems like their victims
4:55:12
really, observe come stance more.
4:55:14
Anything else that these people are going to really how awful
4:55:17
times in their lives. And this is really all that they
4:55:21
see as something to turn to when they really didn't have much of
4:55:24
anything else to turn to. I've my point is I've never seen
4:55:27
a well-adjusted really, truly happy person decided to take up
4:55:32
a drug habit or decide to drink every single day.
4:55:36
You know, there's something missing in that person's life.
4:55:39
Obviously go ahead and what you're describing is exactly one
4:55:43
of the reasons. Why Why I keep having the issues
4:55:46
that reputation has been given to me about fall outs with
4:55:50
people. If you think it's bad, trying to
4:55:52
meet people in real life and not truly knowing what you're
4:55:55
dealing with until the shit happens in front of your face.
4:55:58
Imagine what it's like in social media, you're popular, you're
4:56:02
accessible. You allow people to come towards
4:56:05
you. Your interest is to be friendly
4:56:08
socialize. Get to know people and then the
4:56:11
more you get to know folks. Oh shit, find out there in Crack
4:56:14
cocaine or running over little old ladies and all kinds of
4:56:17
things shut. What do you do?
4:56:19
What do you do? Yeah.
4:56:21
Then the next thing you know yeah you got 50 videos made
4:56:25
towards you. Look there goes Brett Kane.
4:56:27
Putting holes in people's back with his knives again but he's a
4:56:33
pedophile. He does the crack the mouth.
4:56:36
I mean, come on. I mean you see the point now?
4:56:39
No I do you see that? I make myself absolutely
4:56:43
accessible all I always treat people nice but sooner or later
4:56:47
the dark side. Comes out the evil.
4:56:52
Yeah. Quote about.
4:56:54
Oh, was it? Vincent Price?
4:56:56
Oh. Oh.
4:56:58
It's Michael Jackson. Thriller the evil that lurks.
4:57:12
What time is it? Let me check.
4:57:14
This is so yeah, we gotta go now and I gotta agree, you know?
4:57:19
It's a great sin, you're having this conversation but yeah, I
4:57:22
gotta get ready here if I want to do any work whatsoever before
4:57:25
I go to bed. So I'm glad you guys enjoyed the
4:57:28
show. I do have to say one last thing.
4:57:31
I don't know if I should do it, when Wednesday show.
4:57:33
If I should just let this be the video that people see all the
4:57:37
way up to the Friday show. I'm concerned that if I make
4:57:40
another show, this one won't get the attention.
4:57:44
That it requires and all that, if I do it, what did you guys
4:57:47
thoughts? What do you think I should do?
4:57:49
I worry about that with mine too.
4:57:51
If too many come out and yeah, that it gets oversaturated.
4:57:56
I could definitely agree with that.
4:57:57
Yeah. Maybe it would be your best
4:57:59
interest. I would say, if something comes
4:58:01
up or something like that, or if you're really feeling, like,
4:58:03
that's something that you want to do, then go ahead.
4:58:05
But yeah, if otherwise, it's just something that you either,
4:58:10
you're not necessarily feeling that day, or you think that the
4:58:13
video needs a bit more, Tension. Then yeah.
4:58:15
Just go ahead and let it lie until Friday.
4:58:17
I would say yeah, might do it. What do you think Cindy?
4:58:21
What's your thoughts? Well because I uploaded my video
4:58:27
with you very close to when McKinnon Mitchell uploaded his
4:58:33
video and so I was concerned that ours wouldn't get the
4:58:39
attention. So I have the same thought as
4:58:43
you. The best thing, I said I suspect
4:58:48
people can do is what I usually tend to do is say, hey, check
4:58:52
out this video and I need most the title that I did before this
4:58:55
one if I really feel like I'm on a rampage.
4:58:59
But tonight, I think that I'm going to probably delete the
4:59:02
winds day one. So keep the Friday when I like
4:59:05
doing Fridays and all that Monday's.
4:59:07
A little slow though. Yeah, definitely.
4:59:13
If you really want to give this victim attention is, you could
4:59:19
just Edit that section out of this and repost just that part
4:59:25
of it. Yeah, that'd be good.
4:59:27
Actually, that would be a good thing to do if you would be able
4:59:31
to fit even like I was gonna leave that up to the atheists
4:59:34
and Christian Community, they love top of my stuff up and, you
4:59:39
know, regard the painting, our video, fill my God, and Sony,
4:59:43
you brought that up. Oh my god.
4:59:44
There was that one time back in the day where so many people
4:59:47
would chop up the shit that you would say.
4:59:50
And fucking make you say, aye. Solutely absurd shit.
4:59:53
Oh my god, there was some real, that was some real brutal stuff.
4:59:57
He was telling me about that, where they would basically put
5:00:00
his words in a blender and make him say whatever they wanted him
5:00:03
to say. Yeah, yeah.
5:00:06
Well I mean there were some that they were only trying to do it
5:00:09
for comedic effect which isn't either either way isn't perfect.
5:00:12
In my opinion there's definitely a bit of maliciousness ended if
5:00:16
you put some really bad stuff in their mouth either way but then
5:00:19
there was people that actually did just try to To like and in
5:00:22
something to make it seem like he said something that he didn't
5:00:24
and those were the really bad people in my opinion.
5:00:27
Oh, speaking of people who are probably going to have to drop
5:00:30
off at the bakery and shit. There are two people that I have
5:00:34
had on the show that I may end up having to say, I need a
5:00:39
timeout. I don't know if you ever heard
5:00:42
of the geek room and there in the title of this video, I
5:00:45
forgot to even mention this. Did you hear about what
5:00:48
happened? No.
5:00:51
Okay, so I was, I was sitting over and John's one of his his
5:00:57
podcast things. Don't get Bella.
5:01:00
Well, whenever I was over there, John walks away from the screen
5:01:05
and apparently he had given Bond.
5:01:07
Some kind of control and allowed the sky to come up called solar
5:01:11
you ever heard of this fella? Can't say, I have no.
5:01:15
Okay, so the story is going to get interesting.
5:01:18
So what happens is Solar says, so Brad, are you still doing the
5:01:22
math, right off? The bat, whenever he comes in
5:01:25
the room and I was going, I don't do drugs, sir.
5:01:29
I think you for being concerned about my well-being, though,
5:01:33
their. Yeah, and then he started.
5:01:39
Then the guy starts on Vaughn help me goes the stove on.
5:01:41
Did you get a job yet? Or are you going to let your
5:01:44
children stay in foster care because you're an irresponsible
5:01:47
father. Now, the money?
5:01:49
I knew this was going to set Von help learn one of those fucking
5:01:52
to our tirades. That don't have a commercial in
5:01:55
between I'm like I don't want to hear it.
5:01:58
It's fucking shit. I know this is that Vaughn off
5:02:02
so I basically I kind of I spoke out once I said John if you're
5:02:07
out there listening I'm not interested in the conversation.
5:02:10
It's fucking taking place you want to moderate this shit.
5:02:13
No answer. So I said that mr.
5:02:15
Solar, it was nice meeting. You try to stay off the crack
5:02:18
cocaine and Out. So I thought you left the room
5:02:21
and shit. Well, what happens is this
5:02:23
prick, the sides it. During one of my life shows, he
5:02:26
wants to come in. I see him at the bottom.
5:02:29
I said you got to be out of your fucking mind.
5:02:31
Thinking, I'm gonna bring you up on my yeah.
5:02:36
Sorry. I basically, I basically told
5:02:39
him, no, go find some Pokemon trade card in fucking game to
5:02:43
have fun with you ink it and here because it's and I remove
5:02:46
him. He do this guy lost, so much
5:02:51
control over the fact that he wasn't allowed or my show and he
5:02:55
made like a TV series about me. I'm talking more than lower to
5:02:59
the fucking Rings, right? I made a hole like Saga, very
5:03:03
well. What happens is?
5:03:05
He does this and apparently he goes back to John and Vaughn and
5:03:10
they do a video and solar basically intimidates.
5:03:14
These two. He says, oh so how long you two
5:03:16
been sucking on Brett's? Yeah, you know what I mean?
5:03:19
The word, you know, do you take it with ketchup and mustard is
5:03:23
what he said and he's too fucking weaklings decided to go
5:03:26
along with them and they basically allowed themselves to
5:03:29
be pressured in the shit. Talkin me some.
5:03:32
Oh, that's wonderful. There we go again this morning.
5:03:37
So they spent like an hour just fucking caving in on me and
5:03:40
everything else and just saying some of the most ridiculous
5:03:44
shit. So what happens is the obvious
5:03:46
thing happens the geek room, umm, and a couple really popular
5:03:50
80's podcast. They go.
5:03:51
Oh look Brett Keynes adopted internet son shit-talking him
5:03:56
Bond helton's even roast and armed rat team and there we go.
5:04:01
And so now what am I going to do with that now John's probably
5:04:04
going to show up next show and probably act like you don't know
5:04:07
what the fuck just happened. Hey, bro, what's going on?
5:04:10
I don't know. How you and solar doing.
5:04:11
How's the meth job going? You can't you see that's the
5:04:17
kind of shit guys. Into I don't know what to do
5:04:20
with that shit. You've always been, you've
5:04:23
always been a drama magnet in the sense that you could
5:04:26
literally just be sitting in a room.
5:04:27
Minding your own business and something always has to kick em
5:04:30
off like holy promise hip magnet, man.
5:04:33
I got some creatures for sure. Yeah.
5:04:37
Every once in awhile, I get lucky and running two wonderful
5:04:39
people like yourself and Cindy but damn and I attract the evil,
5:04:44
oh me to Brett. So was this recent what?
5:04:49
You just described? Yeah.
5:04:51
The video I can tell it's from like a week and a half ago and
5:04:55
it's been atheists have been post, you know they love it.
5:04:59
Whenever one of my supposed internet buddies whom I've never
5:05:03
met in fucking person shit, talk me and all that.
5:05:06
So it is what it is, you know, I'm so I don't know, I don't
5:05:10
know, I think people should talk.
5:05:11
What are these podcasts are trying to make a off of your
5:05:14
bullshit here. Like every geek room, And Raven
5:05:18
shit underworld under Haven or some shit.
5:05:21
A bunch of nobodies essential is what you're saying?
5:05:24
Well, they're not doing too bad under Channel, but their
5:05:27
channels are mostly meant like this.
5:05:29
They're trying to be what we refer to as a copycat, a drunken
5:05:33
peasants where they get on the screen.
5:05:35
All of them made hundred pounds each and tip and dump trucks and
5:05:40
everything with their ass and then they put someone else's
5:05:43
video on the screen that's either obese or has problems.
5:05:47
Eames. And then they should talk to
5:05:48
person for two hours. They don't talk about science
5:05:52
theology. Philosophy is the world coming
5:05:54
to an end, as you know, an apocalypse internet, nothing of
5:05:58
fascinating things. Sensitive just oh, look at her,
5:06:02
eat the twinkie. Oh, look at the sparkly things,
5:06:06
oh it's like, wow, really? You guys you guys are able to do
5:06:10
that. On another Barrel entertainment,
5:06:13
quote-unquote, and people like that.
5:06:15
For some reason they do they love seeing People get ripped
5:06:18
apart and I'm not gonna lie to you.
5:06:20
I there was a part DP that I really enjoyed and the drama
5:06:26
that they had with, you was a big source of entertainment for
5:06:28
you for me for a time, because I gotta be real with you.
5:06:32
There's, there's just a part of that, like, don't get me wrong.
5:06:35
If it starts getting really harsh, I'm not going to be one
5:06:37
of those people that's cheering it on, like a fucking orangutan,
5:06:41
but like just Baseline shit. Like there's there's a certain
5:06:45
attraction to that with people. I think Think like, people are
5:06:48
just they're so obsessed with being in their little tribes
5:06:52
where I'm part of this group and we're against this group because
5:06:55
they're different than us. It's like something that I've
5:06:58
tried to unlearn from myself over time, anyways, because it's
5:07:01
just counterproductive, right? And I understand to you, go
5:07:06
ahead. Good psychological insights.
5:07:11
Into Human Nature. And I said we're going to switch
5:07:17
from business. Maybe you should consider
5:07:22
getting a psych degree. You know, it's funny.
5:07:25
You say that because my fiancee, she's in University and she
5:07:28
keeps calling psych Majors the bottom of the barrel.
5:07:31
So I don't know what she's what she'd have to say about that.
5:07:34
I'm sure she's joking but they've always know what you
5:07:40
could do is counseling degree. Yeah.
5:07:43
Yeah. That's always been something.
5:07:47
I've been a bit interested in actually, is, is doing
5:07:50
counseling, but I don't know. I, you know, without getting
5:07:56
into things too much. I've always been a bit of a
5:08:00
source in life of, you know, of people, going through a rough
5:08:03
patch. That I know they can come to me
5:08:05
and they can come and confide in me and I'm not trying to say
5:08:09
that. It's a bad thing or anything
5:08:12
like that. Not at all, I try to encourage
5:08:14
it but after enough time, By of doing it, it can get a bit
5:08:17
tiring, you know, if you're, if you're trying to tell somebody
5:08:21
over and over and over again, that you know, not not telling
5:08:24
them what to do. But going, look, I've known you
5:08:27
for this amount of time. I've seen these patterns in your
5:08:30
behavior, and I really think that, if you would try to make
5:08:34
an effort to go about changing these patterns to better
5:08:37
reflect, its a better to better your life, essentially, to make
5:08:42
it. So it's easier for you to live
5:08:44
your life. Without all of Of this Strife or
5:08:46
not even without it, but with so much less of it.
5:08:50
But these people not all of them but a decent amount of them,
5:08:54
they just refuse to listen to that no matter how much you try
5:08:58
to encourage them, no matter how much try to push them along.
5:09:02
And That's just the thing is that I want to help.
5:09:09
I want to help people, but I also you invest so much time
5:09:14
into somebody before, you know, for sure whether or not, they
5:09:16
are one of those people whether or not they are one of those
5:09:19
people that just cannot be motivated, no matter how hard
5:09:22
you try, and maybe it's wrong of me to think this, but it's just
5:09:26
the way that I think, after you've spent that much time
5:09:29
trying to help them and they aren't willing to be helped.
5:09:33
I just look at that and go. Wow, I just wasted Shit, load of
5:09:35
fucking time. All right, I hear you there,
5:09:39
eatin. There's people out there, where
5:09:40
they got serious Fucking Problems going on and they and
5:09:44
they have valid reasons to be upset about things, but there's
5:09:48
other people where they jump right into the fucking shit and
5:09:51
then they don't they seem to not know things.
5:09:54
Like the guy was we were talking about earlier Von, you know how
5:09:58
many times I said backstage with them.
5:10:00
And I said, dude, don't fuckin promote or advertise the people
5:10:04
that you claim We're tolling, you don't fucking go crazy for
5:10:08
two hours. A moment.
5:10:10
Someone puts a comment up there saying, Hey look, it's vampire,
5:10:13
Vaughn, don't do it just ignore the fuck shit.
5:10:17
Move along. Just talk about space aliens or
5:10:19
the Flat Earth or we live in a fucking snow globe or whatever.
5:10:23
Shit you want to come up with that.
5:10:24
They believe that nonsense a while this snow globe.
5:10:27
I love that. I remember you talking to him
5:10:29
about what he believed, he believed that the universe
5:10:31
doesn't actually exist that were in a fucking snow globe.
5:10:35
Shut man, Arctic has got guards around it, protecting us from
5:10:38
getting out of the thick barrier rice or something like that.
5:10:41
I don't know. I don't know, but he never
5:10:44
listens. Never listens where you going to
5:10:47
do? It's just yeah.
5:10:49
You know there's certain people that no matter what yet whatever
5:10:52
you tell them, it's just going to be the same result.
5:10:54
They're going to tell these. There's some of them that's even
5:10:56
more aggravating. Some of them won't even go and
5:10:59
tell you so far. Is that they disagree with you.
5:11:02
They'll go. Okay.
5:11:02
Yep. I understand, I see what you're
5:11:04
saying. To try and do that but they
5:11:06
never actually try or at least it never seems like they try
5:11:10
because like I've just recently, you know, there was somebody in
5:11:16
my life that I was really good friends with ever since I was a
5:11:20
God Like 14, 15 years old, I met them, I met them through school
5:11:25
like middle school and ever since even just like a couple of
5:11:29
months ago I've been trying with this person because they've been
5:11:32
going through a lot of struggles and issues.
5:11:34
I've been trying to Look like I'm here to help you but I can't
5:11:38
be, I can't be there for you 24/7.
5:11:41
Every single time that something comes up and you're, you're
5:11:44
feeling you're feeling like, you know, life just isn't worth
5:11:47
living or anything like that. I can't always be that guy
5:11:49
that's there for you. I'm sorry.
5:11:51
But I have my own life and I have my own needs.
5:11:55
And I need to take care of my own needs.
5:11:57
And at this point, it's starting to get to the point where your
5:12:01
needs and your insinuation. Into my life is starting to
5:12:04
override my Needs. This was a little bit actually
5:12:07
before I moved in to the place that I'm in now with my fiance.
5:12:11
But you know, for as much as I was hoping that that person
5:12:16
would understand at least like, okay you can't always be there
5:12:19
for me. That's fine.
5:12:21
No, they had a very negative reaction.
5:12:23
They thought that I was basically abandoning them and
5:12:25
that I was leaving them behind and it hurts.
5:12:28
I'm not going to lie when you invest so much time into
5:12:30
somebody and then when you finally say enough is enough and
5:12:33
that you can't just prostrate Before then and then they just
5:12:38
act like you just stab them in the back.
5:12:39
It's like, no, that's not what I did.
5:12:42
That's not what I did at all. It gets really shitty in a
5:12:45
social media type of deal. You have a problem where you
5:12:48
tell, someone look, I done this. I've stood up for you, then
5:12:52
everything I can and then you go, making it fucked up, video
5:12:55
that get yourself in all kinds of trouble.
5:12:57
I can't jump up for it and I've been too many damn times where
5:13:02
the same people who act like they care about you.
5:13:05
On to make an entire TV series about Jaden.
5:13:08
But fuck you gonna do? Yeah.
5:13:10
Yeah, I got I gotta say that's honestly one of the reasons why
5:13:15
I never did a whole YouTube channel or anything like that.
5:13:18
Even back in the day it was because I just saw that even if
5:13:22
you were like a midsize, even a fairly small sized YouTube
5:13:25
channel and you wanted to talk with people and you wanted to
5:13:28
interact with people. It's always an invitation for
5:13:31
drama. No matter what.
5:13:33
There's always going to be a controversy, you Be a fucking
5:13:36
Lego units. Like, we were talking about the
5:13:38
other day, fucking Lego bricks, for God's sake.
5:13:40
Something as mundane as that there's drama that comes up
5:13:43
around that, if you're not even certain the damn video Eating
5:13:46
mac and cheese without becoming exactly, that's what I mean,
5:13:51
people. Oh goodness, I need a drink of
5:13:53
water. People just naturally revolve
5:13:58
around making shit out of seemingly nothing and it can be
5:14:03
such a frustrating thing and it's I don't know.
5:14:07
I really want to get into history and anthropology because
5:14:10
those have been the things that I've always been really
5:14:12
fascinated. And, but at the same time, you
5:14:15
know, I've got people like my parents sitting here telling me
5:14:18
that, they've always wanted me to have a really good and
5:14:21
successful career, and have a lot of materialistic wealth, and
5:14:26
Rue because I would have a really good job.
5:14:29
But I'll be honest with you guys.
5:14:30
You know, I've never been a crazy materialistic guy.
5:14:34
I've never been somebody. That's wanted all the nice fancy
5:14:37
stuff, you know, I can get by with even just a little bit more
5:14:41
than the bare minimum and I can be happy as long as everything
5:14:44
outside of that is fine, as long as I've got a decent
5:14:46
relationship with my woman. As long as I've got enough food
5:14:49
on the table and that's really all that I need to have a happy
5:14:52
life so I don't know you know on one level Well, you always want
5:14:57
to make your parents proud of you.
5:14:59
That's a universal thing for anybody.
5:15:01
You want to make sure that they are proud of what you've done
5:15:04
and you don't want to disappoint them.
5:15:06
Well, I think you guys got health insurance.
5:15:09
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. But at the same time I do see
5:15:15
their point in like yeah, going into business, it would be
5:15:18
really the creative, it would be something that would give me a
5:15:21
lot of opportunity in life, but I'd be fucking miserable doing
5:15:24
it. So I'll tell you what, a I bet
5:15:27
you never had to go through this because you're in Canada and
5:15:29
your luck to you son of a gun because of this.
5:15:32
If you were down here, imagine going into the doctor and
5:15:36
saying, look, I might need some kind of surgery or something
5:15:39
done. Well, it's going to costs extra
5:15:41
for the painkiller, you think you might need that.
5:15:43
Oh yeah, that's okay. It should they do to you?
5:15:46
Okay, it's like what I was telling you about the first time
5:15:50
I talked with you in a while that whole thing, came up with
5:15:52
my arthritis, I've only had to pay Ever, since I got diagnosed
5:15:58
with that, like 150 bucks in total for anything that I've had
5:16:02
done for me. I had an MRI done for me.
5:16:05
I had a couple sessions of physical therapy.
5:16:08
I had a few cortisone, injections, all of that stuff.
5:16:12
And I've only had to pay in total 150 bucks.
5:16:14
You know, how much that would have fucking cost in the United
5:16:17
States? Oh my God, I'd be bankrupt right
5:16:19
now, I'd be sitting here on the side of the road with the
5:16:21
fucking Tin Cup rattling change. If I fucking did that, the
5:16:24
United States, Through its really, really hateful.
5:16:29
I remember having to go to the doctors while back.
5:16:32
I had fucking bronchitis with a touch of pneumonia, I'm sorry.
5:16:36
You're going to need to sit out in the waiting room and I'm
5:16:38
like, yeah, but I'm dying. Like I'm fucking over there and
5:16:42
sit down, you know, we'll get to you when we get here and it's
5:16:46
okay if you see them like running around trying to work
5:16:49
with people, but when they're sitting there fucking having a
5:16:52
relationship and flirting with each other while you're over
5:16:54
there, fucking doing have yeah. He and up you know how long I
5:16:58
sat on that. Fuck or late on that couch.
5:17:01
Actually until I finally claps into the floor.
5:17:04
Almost eight to nine hours before they cut him brought me
5:17:07
in a room and care. I don't give a shit.
5:17:11
That is absolutely insane. Yeah, that's misery.
5:17:17
I just People on YouTube, they're like Sprite.
5:17:22
You look like you're much older than what you you say.
5:17:25
You are and say say 45 but you look sexy.
5:17:28
Yeah. You guys are fucking hospitals
5:17:29
and our health. Yeah.
5:17:31
Get a taste of this shit. Oh, gotta go to the dentist time
5:17:34
to get out the fucking wrench and screwdriver.
5:17:36
You know, it's funny. You mention that actually
5:17:40
because that's one of the few things in Canada that is similar
5:17:44
to the u.s. is things like that. Dental costs, I'm actually
5:17:47
waiting to see if I can get put on my It's Insurance here
5:17:50
because I'm sorry, I don't have the money right now to get my
5:17:54
teeth cleaned and checked and pay the same amount that I gotta
5:17:56
pay for my fucking rent. That's just not an option for me
5:17:59
right now, you know? So I may not know all of the
5:18:02
aspects of that but I definitely know a couple of them.
5:18:04
So I feel your pain, a little bit there.
5:18:07
Yeah, well I agree with your on the be simplistic type of
5:18:11
Lifestyle. There is one other thing I'd
5:18:14
have to throw in there that I'd like to see more comforting of
5:18:17
not having so much concern. About bills, and shut, if you
5:18:21
get a lot of things that can come up with, when you're an
5:18:23
older person, where it's just, ya know.
5:18:28
And that's definitely something to think about, as well.
5:18:31
I'm really actually right now, starting to think about opening
5:18:34
up, like, a couple of mutual funds or something like that, to
5:18:37
actually start building some money for my future, but to do
5:18:40
that, you kind of need spare money.
5:18:41
So so, you know, hopefully now that I'm really starting to work
5:18:46
my ass off with this job and that's why I've only Able to
5:18:49
show up to your shows, pretty late now, because I'm just
5:18:51
working all the damn time right now, but I'm doing it so that I
5:18:55
can get this money together, so I can start building the future
5:18:58
for myself. So it may be difficult doing
5:19:01
that on a minimum wage job, but it's not impossible, especially
5:19:04
when your minimum wage, isn't this garbage?
5:19:06
Is it is in the United States, who it's real bad, it's like
5:19:10
what seven dollars in something an hour.
5:19:12
Now it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's bigger than you guys.
5:19:19
Very good to some sleep, Sunday of you falling asleep on this
5:19:22
yet. Yeah, I feel like she did.
5:19:31
She's here. I her, I'm sorry.
5:19:34
I went to brush my teeth. Ha ha ha.
5:19:37
It's all right. That's perfectly fine.
5:19:40
Me and Brett were just having a good old-fashioned ramble.
5:19:44
Yeah, but yeah, for sure. I think I'm gonna hit the hay at
5:19:50
this point, but you know what? This was an absolute blast.
5:19:53
I've always enjoyed These conversations.
5:19:56
That's why I always leave it in the comments, you know.
5:19:58
It's always a good time to be out of here.
5:19:59
So yeah, well, it looking forward to coming back.
5:20:05
Yeah, for sure have a good night guys, for sure.
5:20:08
Have a good night Bread. Have a good night.
5:20:09
Cindy bless you guys. Use.
5:20:13
Well you as well. It's ND gang last word.
5:20:19
Only night night. Only night-night.
5:20:24
All right. See you later.
5:20:26
Aiden have a good one guy. Good night.
5:20:29
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