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Phil O'Reilly: Former Welfare Expert Advisory Group member on benefit changes for families under one roof · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: Govenments tracking down on youth beneficiaries. It's brought forward changes
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  Speaker 1: that mean from next November, eighteen to nineteen year olds
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  Speaker 1: won't get the dole if their parents earn more than
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  Speaker 1: sixty five thousand dollars. There's also a new one thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollar bonus if they stay off the benefit for a
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  Speaker 1: year through the Community Job Service. Fellow Raleigh former Welfare
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  Speaker 1: Expert Welfare Advisory Expert Group member joins me.
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  Speaker 2: Now, hi, Phil, morning Ron.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think they've brought it forward.
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  Speaker 2: Or probably to demonstrate to the electorate coming into a
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  Speaker 2: title election that they're under control on this. I suspect
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  Speaker 2: also the budgetary situation is driving them of it, and
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  Speaker 2: I think they want a demonstrate action. So that's politics bloit.
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  Speaker 1: Does it work?
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  Speaker 2: I think the carrot and stick approach is a good
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  Speaker 2: idea and certainly I think the public will support the
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  Speaker 2: idea that if you're sitting with your parents and they're
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  Speaker 2: earning some money, you shouldn't be you shouldn't be taking
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  Speaker 2: money from the state, You should primarily focus on that
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  Speaker 2: parental support. And I think that's probably sent and hopefully
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  Speaker 2: it will lead to more young people getting a job.
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  Speaker 2: The carrot. At the end of it. The thousand bucks
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  Speaker 2: are for a year that was announced yesterday. Once again,
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  Speaker 2: I think in principle that's a good idea, although I
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  Speaker 2: suspect the scheme design may not actually be quite as
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  Speaker 2: helpful as it otherwise might be. The international evidence around
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  Speaker 2: this is that if you've been in a job for
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  Speaker 2: about six months, you tend to be sticky in that job.
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  Speaker 2: That's the international evidence. So you probably would have structured
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  Speaker 2: a payment if I was the minister at about six
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  Speaker 2: months rather than twelve, because just put yourself in the
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  Speaker 2: feet of that young person, a year is a long
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  Speaker 2: time that the young person's life. Although clearly a thousand
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  Speaker 2: bucks is are fair but a money for a young
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  Speaker 2: person as well. So the question is whether it will
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  Speaker 2: actually work that, whether the year is too long for
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  Speaker 2: that quite big character play out. Maybe six months would
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  Speaker 2: have been better, but you know, that's just a scheme
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  Speaker 2: design issue, and we'll see how it practically works out.
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  Speaker 1: Currently, fifteen thy eighteen to nineteen year olds on the
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  Speaker 1: doll do we know how many of them have parents
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  Speaker 1: earning less than sixty five thousand dollars a year? I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's the question, Well.
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  Speaker 2: It'll just be probably a faction a function of the population,
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  Speaker 2: if you like. But bear in mind those people on
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  Speaker 2: sixty five grand or that lower end of the spectrum
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  Speaker 2: will often tend to be on government support themselves. They
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  Speaker 2: might be on a family benefit, they might be on
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  Speaker 2: some sort of hardship allowance already, so that there will
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  Speaker 2: be a complex interplayer that will let that lower end
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  Speaker 2: of how much government support both the parents will get
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  Speaker 2: or the sole parent potentially and the young person will get.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, that's all to be played out. I
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  Speaker 2: think we.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate your time this morning. We've got I rany Form,
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  Speaker 1: a Welfare Expert Advisory Group member.
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