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Bonus Episode: Books They Don't Want You to Read and Books We Want Them to Write · DISGRACELAND

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  Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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  Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. This is the podcast that comes after
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  Speaker 2: the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland
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  Speaker 1: bonus episode, a little thing we like to call the
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  Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the
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  Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from
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  Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard
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  Speaker 1: to dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we
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  Speaker 1: are talking about Mama Cass Elliott. We are previewing the
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  Speaker 1: coming episode on Chris Cornell talking down in Dirty Rockstar Autobiographies,
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  Speaker 1: and we get into your voicemails, text DMS emails and
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  Speaker 1: as always.
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  Speaker 2: A whole lot of rosie. All Right, disc goes, Let's
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  Speaker 2: get into it.
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  Speaker 1: In the Mama Cass Elliott episodes at the top of
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  Speaker 1: your feed this week. There is one story in particular
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  Speaker 1: that really influenced my thinking about this story about Cass,
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  Speaker 1: about Sharon Tate, Charles Manson, etc. And it's the story
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  Speaker 1: that actor Michael Caine tells about being at a party
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  Speaker 1: at Cass's house where both Sharon Tate and Charles Manson
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  Speaker 1: are present. I heard about the story in Tom O'Neill's
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  Speaker 1: book Chaos. Tom cites it, and the reason this story
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  Speaker 1: is so important is because it blows a major hole
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  Speaker 1: in Vincent Buliosi's Helter Skelter theory. Now, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to get into all of it here, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: the Mama cass Elliott episodes are for, and the Sharon
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  Speaker 1: Tate once as well.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the Hollywood Land feed by the.
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  Speaker 1: Way I bring it up to get to another point.
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  Speaker 1: When I read this story in Tom O'Neill's Chaos, the
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  Speaker 1: story of Sharon Tate and Charles Manson being at the
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  Speaker 1: same party that is depicted by Michael Kain, I had
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  Speaker 1: to see the original source material because the story was
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  Speaker 1: so bizarre and just no one had ever mentioned anything
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  Speaker 1: like this before. So I went looking for the book
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  Speaker 1: that O'Neill cites. It's called What's It All About? By
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  Speaker 1: Michael Kain, which is an autobiography and largely details the
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  Speaker 1: actors early days in Hollywood kins. Michael Kain has multiple
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  Speaker 1: memoirs and this is just one of them. This one
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  Speaker 1: is very well written, published by a real publishing house, etc.
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  Speaker 1: And Michael Kain is still, as you know, very much relevant.
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  Speaker 1: So you can imagine my surprise when I learned that
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  Speaker 1: this book is not only out of print, but it
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  Speaker 1: is extremely hard to get your hands on, so difficult
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  Speaker 1: that it started to seem to me that it was
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  Speaker 1: almost like they didn't want you to read it. But
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  Speaker 1: I got the book anyway. I paid a pretty penny
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  Speaker 1: for it online. And there isn't much in the book
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  Speaker 1: that is risque or revealing or over the top or
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  Speaker 1: incriminating except for this story, the one about Charles Manson
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  Speaker 1: and Sharon Tate being at the same party, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the story is not even integral to the book. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very small passage in one chapter. Beach Boy Dennis
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  Speaker 1: Wilson's book, The Real Beach Boy. Now I get why
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  Speaker 1: they don't want you to read this book. It's chock
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  Speaker 1: full of wild stories about Dennis and his time in
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  Speaker 1: the so called Golden Penetrators with Terry Melcher and Greg Jacobson.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to hear more on this story, you
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  Speaker 1: can check out The Beach Boys's Grace Stand episodes.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is these two books, each.
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  Speaker 1: Detailing portions of the real Charles Manson's story for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: they can't be obtained and read easily. And one of
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  Speaker 1: these is an autobiography, and the other it's not an autobiography.
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  Speaker 1: It's a biography, but it's not a work of fiction.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, at the same time, right now, as I'm going
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  Speaker 1: through all this in my head talking to you guys
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  Speaker 1: about it, I'm reading another book by an author named Manson. No,
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  Speaker 1: not Charles Manson, Marilyn Manson. I'm reading his or Brian
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  Speaker 1: Warner's autobiography. Brian Warner is, of course the real name
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  Speaker 1: of Marilyn Manson, and the Marilyn Manson autobiography is called
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  Speaker 1: The Long Hard Road out of Hell. I'm reading this
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  Speaker 1: in preparation for a Marilyn Manson episode that's coming your
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  Speaker 1: way in late May. Now, there's nothing in Michael Kaine's
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  Speaker 1: autobiography or in the Dennis Wilson biography that, on face value,
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  Speaker 1: even approaches the shocking amount of material in Marilyn Manson's book.
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  Speaker 1: So my first question is why why are the Michael
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  Speaker 1: Kaine and Dennis Wilson books nearly impossible to get your
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  Speaker 1: hands on? And I think I answered that question. I
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  Speaker 1: think I answered it in the episodes on Cass Elliott.
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  Speaker 1: But my second question is what are the most shocking
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  Speaker 1: rock star autobiographies? Now I went looking for a list,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess the real shock here is that there
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  Speaker 1: isn't really a list. So I thought, who better to
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  Speaker 1: make this list than us? Then you're truly here with
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  Speaker 1: your help. I've read my fair share of these books,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, you guys have heard me talk about
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  Speaker 1: these artists, so we're all in this sort of unique
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  Speaker 1: position to put this list together. But then I thought, well,
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  Speaker 1: lists are kind of boring unless they're totally outrageous, like
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  Speaker 1: the list of top grunge albums from a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks back, or that list of artists nominated for the
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  Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame from last week. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, we should have a final list of inductees
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  Speaker 1: by next week's after party.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that.
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  Speaker 1: So my point is I don't want to make this list,
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  Speaker 1: but I do want to tell you that the Marilyn
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  Speaker 1: Manson autobiography is, without a doubt, the most damning book
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  Speaker 1: by a rock star that I've ever read, More damning
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  Speaker 1: than Motley Cruz The Dirt, more damning than Rick James's
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  Speaker 1: book glow. I'm halfway through Manson's autobiography and so far
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  Speaker 1: there isn't a shred of humility or even really humanity.
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  Speaker 1: It is pretty fucking dark. It is funny, though, so
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  Speaker 1: I guess there's some humanity in that somehow. Marilyn Manson
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  Speaker 1: is funny. I think I knew that, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really haven't really experienced it before. And Manson is a
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  Speaker 1: really good writer, he truly is. But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson dark. Now my final thinking on this subject,
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  Speaker 1: what major rock stars have yet to write their autobiographies? Now? This, this,
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  Speaker 1: to me is an interesting list.
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  Speaker 2: Madonna is at the top of this list.
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  Speaker 1: And you'd think that Madge would have written her story
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  Speaker 1: by now, but no, And I think it's because she's
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  Speaker 1: working on her story for a film and she's been
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  Speaker 1: doing this for the past few years.
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  Speaker 2: But I can't really say.
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  Speaker 1: All I can say is that I've read enough already
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  Speaker 1: about Madonna. I've heard enough as well about Madonna secondhand,
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  Speaker 1: some firsthand actually on what Madonna got up to in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties and the nineties. And I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: if Madonna took an honest stab at telling her story,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm certain it would give Marilyn and Motley Crue
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  Speaker 1: a run for their money. The nineties were fucked up, man,
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  Speaker 1: dark dark rockstar shit went on in the nineties, and
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  Speaker 1: Madonna was at the height of her power during that decade.
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  Speaker 1: So there's Madonna. But who else is there? Okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: Mick Jagger. Yes there is, as of yet, no autobiography
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  Speaker 1: by mister Jerry Hall. Mick just got engaged, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: eighty two years old and his fiance is only something
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  Speaker 1: like six years older than tattoo You. I'm not clever
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  Speaker 1: enough to have come up with that on my own.
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  Speaker 1: I stole that from a rock journalist, Stephen Hyden on Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: That's not my joke.
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  Speaker 1: Mick Jagger not having an autobiography, though, That's that's not
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  Speaker 1: a joke either. This is more of a crime. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: his music lovers, as music historians, we deserve a Mick
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  Speaker 1: Jagger autobiography. I find it curious that there's no Mick
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  Speaker 1: Jagger autobiography.
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  Speaker 2: Why not? I'll tell you why not.
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  Speaker 1: There's too many stories, and unlike Keith Richards, I'm betting
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  Speaker 1: that Mick Jagger remembers most of what he's gone through
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  Speaker 1: in his life, and he's likely horrified by the prospect
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  Speaker 1: of having to piece it all into a narrative and
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  Speaker 1: what would happen to him if he did.
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  Speaker 2: In an attempt in.
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  Speaker 1: The early eighties at an autobiography, but his publisher rejected it,
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  Speaker 1: saying that it was too light on the sex and
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  Speaker 1: the drugs. I don't think we're ever getting a Mick
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  Speaker 1: Jagger autobiography, not in a post Me Too era.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: All the other books I've mentioned here were released pre
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  Speaker 1: Me Too, when Marilyn Manson and Motley Crue and Rick
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  Speaker 1: James and the like get away with detailing their horrible
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  Speaker 1: treatment of women firsthand. I still cannot believe that they
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  Speaker 1: wrote these books. I couldn't believe it then, I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe it now. Honestly, it's you know, it's in part
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  Speaker 1: why I started disgracing. But Mick's Mick Jaggers. He's too smart.
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  Speaker 1: I think he'd gained nothing by telling his story other
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  Speaker 1: than in an ego boost, I suppose, But my guess
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  Speaker 1: is Mick is taking his stories to the grave. Madonna,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, an autobiography by Madonna would be
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  Speaker 1: less shocking were to be released.
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  Speaker 2: But I doubt we'd get the real shit.
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  Speaker 1: My guess is she cherry picked certain stories for shock value,
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  Speaker 1: but wouldn't give us any of what really went down,
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  Speaker 1: which is her prerogative. I wouldn't mind a Kanye autobiography,
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  Speaker 1: a real one, not some racist performance are piece like
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  Speaker 1: his ex account currently serves as. I'd like an explanation
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  Speaker 1: as to what the fuck's been going on in his
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  Speaker 1: head the last five years, ten years, really, but I
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  Speaker 1: fear that the mentally ill, at least relative to Kanye,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he has the ability for that kind
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  Speaker 1: of self reflection. But you know, I'd like Kanye's take
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  Speaker 1: on the entertainment industry a really truly, like a real
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  Speaker 1: take from his vantage point.
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  Speaker 2: It's never gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Happen, though, all right, maybe you'll get a Kanye episode
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  Speaker 1: of Just Grace Saying though sometime in the near future,
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  Speaker 1: to go with your Marilyn Manson episode.
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  Speaker 2: That's definitely happening.
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  Speaker 1: I do know coming up next in your feed, you're
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  Speaker 1: getting a couple Eagles episodes. Talk about stories rock stars
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to hear the Henley story in the
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  Speaker 1: book You'll Never Make Love in This Town Again. I
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  Speaker 1: spent a pretty Penny Small Fortune getting my hands on
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  Speaker 1: that book as well. And you will hear why when
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  Speaker 1: you listen to these two episodes that are coming up.
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  Speaker 2: So much debauchery.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, following those Eagles rewind episodes that are hitting your
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  Speaker 1: feed tomorrow. Our next full episode on Tuesday is on
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  Speaker 1: Chris Cornell of Soundgarden and Audio Slave, which brings us
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  Speaker 1: to next week's question of the week. When you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Chris Cornell episode, I want you to be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about which musicians had a follow up band that
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  Speaker 1: was better than their breakthrough band.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, come on, Chris Cornell broke through with Soundgarden, but
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  Speaker 1: he followed it up with Audio Slave, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people think, and I'm not one of them, that
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  Speaker 1: Audio Slave is better than Soundgarden. So there's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of these examples out there. I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 1: through them now. We're going to go through them next
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  Speaker 1: week when you call me six one seven nine oh
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  Speaker 1: six six six three eight and leave me a voicemail
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  Speaker 1: and send me a text and let me know which
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  Speaker 1: artists follow up bands were as impactful or better than
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  Speaker 1: their breakthrough bands. Okay, all right, I'm gonna take a break.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be hanging on the telephone on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of this break with your voicemails, texts and dms.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, six one seven nine oh six sixty six
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  Speaker 2: three eight.
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  Speaker 1: You know where I'm at. I'm in the phone booth.
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  Speaker 1: That's one across the hall. I'm hanging on the telephone.
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  Speaker 1: You want to send me a voicemail? You want to
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  Speaker 1: send me a text? Six one seven nine oh six
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight. Let's check out some voicemails. This
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  Speaker 1: one comes from Justin in the five to four to oh.
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  Speaker 3: Jay.
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  Speaker 4: This is Justin from the five four to oh. I
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  Speaker 4: just really needed to weigh in on this debacle that
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  Speaker 4: we're calling the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sham
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. But anyways, your your
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  Speaker 4: list gave me an idea for my own list. So
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  Speaker 4: here's my seventh. Okay, and we'll go in order one
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  Speaker 4: to seven. So first one, you know, Motorhead on. Second
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  Speaker 4: would be fog Hat, maybe Blue Orster Calls. Third would
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  Speaker 4: be Humble five, fourth would be Johnny thunders and or
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  Speaker 4: the New York Dolls five Billy Idle Dix. We'll go ahead,
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  Speaker 4: and do Oasis now seven seven, I'm gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and throw the Misfits in there just because I want to.
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  Speaker 4: Because way it is justin.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Fantastic list, man. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about fog hat. I mean, I could quibble with
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  Speaker 1: your list, but I think I think you're right on
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  Speaker 1: with Johnny Thunders and New York Dolls, Billy Idol in Oasis.
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  Speaker 1: I like how you're tipping your hat to the current nominees.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's smart. I think this is a solid list,
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  Speaker 1: and you talk about the Misfits later, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, you gotta have. There needs to be room
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  Speaker 2: for more.
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  Speaker 1: Of that og seventies early eighties punk that we're on
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  Speaker 1: to influence so many of the bands that are currently
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  Speaker 1: being nominated that are from later generations, nineties, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Love love to take Justin, thanks so much. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into this more, guys, and next week. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: play Justin's voicemail because we're going to get into this
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  Speaker 1: more next week when I think next week, by the
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  Speaker 1: time we talk again, and if not next week, definitely
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  Speaker 1: the week after, we should have some clarity from the
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  Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on who the seven
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  Speaker 1: nominees excuse me, inductees for this year will be. In
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  Speaker 1: the meantime, you want to voice your opinion on who
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  Speaker 1: those seven should be six one, seven, nine oh six, six,
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  Speaker 1: six three eight voicemail and text.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's check out this one from the four
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  Speaker 2: to seven.
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  Speaker 4: Oh J. It's one of your biggest fans, Bernard. Mine
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  Speaker 4: is a two part issue. One is I can't find
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  Speaker 4: any of your bad lands anywhere. Have you taken them off?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I would love, you know, for you to
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  Speaker 4: be post them and tell us where we can still
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  Speaker 4: listen to them, because you know, they're so wonderful, you know,
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  Speaker 4: even if you have to rebrand them, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: disgraced land. I would love just to be able to
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  Speaker 4: access them. And number two, I think there are two
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  Speaker 4: stories that you really need to look into a do
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  Speaker 4: some research and and and tell the world about. One
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: is the the the great vocalist Roy Hamilton. How he
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: is the genesis of Elvis's singing style, so much that
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: everyone who does an impression bothly of Elvis is doing
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  Speaker 4: an impression of an impression. Two of the great unbelievably
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: uninherited R and B singer Little Willie John. He's the
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  Speaker 4: very first version and the best version of the song
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  Speaker 4: Fever and the story about how he died and the
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  Speaker 4: stabbing you know that took place of that that house,
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  Speaker 4: you know that that went on, that that cost him
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  Speaker 4: his freedom. It is a fascinating story and he is
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  Speaker 4: truly an unsung, you know, unherded, you know, vocal talent,
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  Speaker 4: as is Roy Hamilton. I would love to see what
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  Speaker 4: you could do with those stories.
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  Speaker 1: Take care, Bernard, thank you, thank you for the voicemail, Bernard, Bernard,
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  Speaker 1: you have an excellent voice.
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  Speaker 2: You ever thought about doing a podcast?
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  Speaker 1: First question, hollywood Land? Sorry you said bad Lands. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna find the bad Lands episodes. We've rebranded them hollywood Land.
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  Speaker 1: That's likely why you're not finding them, Bernard. Just search
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  Speaker 1: hollywood Land in any of your podcast players and you'll
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  Speaker 1: find a new feed, a hollywood Land feed, and you
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  Speaker 1: can subscribe there. And we've got about forty or so
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  Speaker 1: episodes in there right now. We're gonna have more news
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  Speaker 1: on hollywood Land and what we've got coming down the
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  Speaker 1: pike in a couple of weeks on your suggestions, really
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  Speaker 1: great ones, Roy Hamilton. I don't know much about Roy Hamilton.
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  Speaker 1: People have brought them up to me in the past.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate your your prompting. Here, it's gonna make me do
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  Speaker 1: a little digging. I'll root around see if I can
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  Speaker 1: find a crime angle, some sort of angle besides this.
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  Speaker 1: See the Elvis influence. Little Willy John is that who
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking of? That real, real high voice. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know about the stabbing.
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  Speaker 2: I love this.
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  Speaker 1: This is a true crime angle with little Willy John.
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  Speaker 1: So perhaps that's something that we'll get into in the
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  Speaker 1: near future as well. Bernard, thank you so much much
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  Speaker 1: for the call. Appreciate six one seven nine or six
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  Speaker 1: six six three eight. Guys you want to get in
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  Speaker 1: touch voicemail and text? Oh my god, look at this one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: This one comes from This text comes from the three
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  Speaker 1: to zero two, who writes in, bro, my local library
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  Speaker 1: has what's it all about? I just put a hold
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  Speaker 1: on it. Okay, So what's it all about? Is the
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  Speaker 1: Michael Kaine book we were just talking about. Then I
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  Speaker 1: get another text. This is a couple hours later. It's
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  Speaker 1: also on audible and you can buy it used from Amazon.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, cool, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Then I get another text, but an hour later, so
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  Speaker 1: the audible books skip nineteen sixty six to nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: three conveniently. How fucked up is that? So the book
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  Speaker 1: is available through Audible, which I didn't know. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: I would never.
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  Speaker 2: What is it with musicians getting arrested? There?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, Bowie and Iggy Pop were arrested in Rochester
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  Speaker 1: not I don't know, worthy of massive fan base.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the figurative kind, and the figurative easter eggs
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  Speaker 1: Who did Sharon Tate ask for advice from concerning her
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  Speaker 1: marital problems with Roman Polanski. Who did Sharon seek out
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  Speaker 1: for advice? Okay, that's the question. Call me six one
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  Speaker 1: episode of Hollywood Land And Now for something totally different,
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  Speaker 1: quick sports rant in under thirty second speaking of autobiographies.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier in this episode, the most fascinating man in the
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  Speaker 1: history of sports has a new autobiography out, Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 1: coach of the New England Patriots, and I hear that
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  Speaker 1: there are no juicy tidbits to be had, just straight
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  Speaker 1: talk on leadership and winning. And I'm sorry, I almost
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  Speaker 1: bored myself to sleep there. I don't want to talk
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: on leadership and winning. I already got that in the
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  Speaker 1: Haversham book on Bill Belichick. Okay, I don't need another
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  Speaker 1: one of those books, all right. I want the dirt man.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know why Bill Jennison Brady out in
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  Speaker 1: want to know what in the hell Malcolm Butler did
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are back and you know what time
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  Speaker 2: Here's a clip.
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  Speaker 1: October tenth, nineteen sixty seven, a hotel room in Rome,
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  Speaker 1: America's perfect movie star, Sharon Tate watching television more than
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  Speaker 1: a thousand miles away on a Southampton doc in the UK.
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  Speaker 1: Sharon's friend, Cass Elliott, was in handcuffs.
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  Speaker 2: Sharon watched it.
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  Speaker 1: All go down on the black and white set, like
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  Speaker 1: the rest of America watching on their own TV sets
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  Speaker 1: back home. Sharon was in shock. Cass was being charged
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  Speaker 1: with stealing towels and soap from a London hotel, held
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  Speaker 1: over from the last time she was in London. How
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  Speaker 1: embarrassing Sharon could relate. She herself had recently been arrested
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  Speaker 1: for something even more ridiculous than pilfering toilet tries, busted
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  Speaker 1: on a train in Italy for the offense of wearing
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  Speaker 1: a short dress that was a little too short. Someone
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: should tell the Italian cops that the societal norms were
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  Speaker 1: shifting thirteen million women in the world on the pill
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  Speaker 1: sex and the Single Girls selling millions, even if its
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  Speaker 1: author couldn't say the word sex on television. And if
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  Speaker 1: you weren't prepared for all that, Grandpa, then buckle up
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  Speaker 1: for the Valley of the Dolls, which hit the cinemas
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  Speaker 1: that December.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: It was the sixties. People could go where they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go, do what they wanted to do.
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  Speaker 1: Less, of course, they were Cass. Something about Cass's bus
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  Speaker 1: just didn't sit right with Sharon. Her arrest in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty seven was for a minute, anyway, all anyone back
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  Speaker 1: home in the States could talk about even more than
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Sharon's skimpy outfits and Valley of the Dolls. It would
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: remain one of America's most infamous busts from the world
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  Speaker 1: of pop stardom until two years later in nineteen sixty nine,
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  Speaker 1: when another arrest for the murder of Cass, Elliott's loyal
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  Speaker 1: and sympathetic friend, would nearly eradicate Cass's seemingly innocent bus
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  Speaker 1: there was some I believe, some really really gruesome shit
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  Speaker 1: he goes on to say very nice things about my voice.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get to this part of the email here.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Jim goes on to say, I do have one subject
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  Speaker 1: for you that I think you could do a real
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  Speaker 1: deep dive into Aero Flynn and his son Sean Flynn.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they've ever even found Sean Flynn's body
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  Speaker 1: in Vietnam or Cambodia. And then there's the rumors about
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  Speaker 1: Errol being either a spy or a Nazi sympathizer and
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  Speaker 1: the young girls. Of course, Well take care and I'll
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  Speaker 2: That Errol Flynn autobiography. It's called My Life. It's something
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  Speaker 2: very basic like that. I have. I think I have
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  Speaker 2: a first edition of that. I have a really really
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  Speaker 2: old copy that was very hard to get and one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that's out of print, and it's out
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  Speaker 2: of print for a reason. The stuff in that book
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  Speaker 2: is fucking crazy, and one I didn't know anything about
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  Speaker 2: his son. Either this is or the Nazi sympathizing spy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: This sounds fantastic. I'm pumped.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And to be honest, I haven't even read ero Flynn's
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  Speaker 1: autobiography yet. I've skimmed it. It's the type of thing
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  Speaker 1: you can just pick up and get pulled into really
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  Speaker 1: any page and just your jaw will be on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: one of Errol Flynn's many sort of like party tricks. Anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: In honor of this week's subject, Sharon Tate, this is
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  Speaker 1: Miss Tate was taken from US August eighth, nineteen sixty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Number one in the year twenty five twenty five. Zagar
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• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Your Love Junior Walker in the All Stars last week
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: top five on the peak.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Position four, two weeks on charts, top ten, number five,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Sweet Caroline for Real comments.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Last shot six fet positions, Get five Mix our Choice,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Quit talking and start mixing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Cut it,