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Nick Underhill, Film Breakdown With Matt Flynn · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back in outumb three oh TB one O four
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  Speaker 2: five ESPN Baton Rouge. It is now nine o'clock on
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  Speaker 2: a Tuesday morning. You know what that means. We catch
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  Speaker 2: up with our guy Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football. Nick,
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  Speaker 2: It is always our pleasure. How you doing, sir? Doing fantastic?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking about this last night and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, well, you know, whe are
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  Speaker 2: some things that we want to make sure that we
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  Speaker 2: hit with Nick. And it's like we always just kind
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  Speaker 2: of it's quarterback situation. Anytime you have a quarterback, it's
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  Speaker 2: always going to be the leader in the clubhouse. And
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about a lot of other positions, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, we hadn't talked a lot
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  Speaker 2: about is the guy that took ninth overall in Kelvin
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  Speaker 2: Banks Junior.
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  Speaker 4: Right, We've talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Pinning, maybe moving to guard and we've talked about some
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  Speaker 2: of the shuffling on the offensive line. We haven't talked
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  Speaker 2: a lot about a top ten player and an offensive
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  Speaker 2: tackle that we've talked about for a long time, but
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  Speaker 2: we hadn't talked about him since he's become a Saint, really,
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  Speaker 2: So I just really wanted to open it up.
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  Speaker 4: And what have you seen from him?
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  Speaker 2: What are you expecting from him after his first couple
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  Speaker 2: days in the Saints uniform?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I guess in all of our defense, like,
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  Speaker 5: we haven't talked about him a lot because they didn't
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  Speaker 5: do anything at all in these practices with an offensive
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  Speaker 5: line on the tail.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just kind of it's kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of easy to fixate on the quarterback and forget about
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  Speaker 5: the guy that's that's maybe arguably the most important player
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  Speaker 5: on the team right now. Like I feel like if
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  Speaker 5: Kelvin Banks hits, you have a foundational piece him and
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  Speaker 5: Quaga together, you have your identity going forward and kind
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  Speaker 5: of everything else can go wrong. And if you have that,
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  Speaker 5: you still at least have something behind your hat on
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  Speaker 5: and something to build around. And I you know, your identity,
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  Speaker 5: all that stuff, and I'm I'm I'm optimistic about him.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think he's incredibly smart. I think it's
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  Speaker 5: hard to miss on a ot at nine now. Granted,
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  Speaker 5: like the Saints have found ways to miss on picks
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  Speaker 5: they shouldn't have missed on a lot over the years.
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  Speaker 5: But I like him. I think he's smart. I think
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  Speaker 5: he's picking things up.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you watch a movie.
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  Speaker 5: He looks athletic. I think he carries himself very maturely.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he can you know, there's just some of
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  Speaker 5: those guys that that can just really kind of explain
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  Speaker 5: the game and talk about it and just it sounds
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  Speaker 5: smart and it gives you confidence in him and and
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  Speaker 5: all that stuff. I think he's one of them guys.
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  Speaker 5: And I will be really surprised if he's not a
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  Speaker 5: good player right away. But yeah, I mean that that's
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  Speaker 5: everything for them. If if Kuaga can take you know,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of a step next year. I do
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  Speaker 5: think that maybe some of his struggles last year got
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  Speaker 5: overlooked a bit because there was just, you know, an
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  Speaker 5: absolute disaster all the way around him.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's just some stuff that he can do
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  Speaker 5: a little bit better. But yeah, those two guys hit man, Like,
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  Speaker 5: I feel okay about everything. Like shock cannot be good,
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  Speaker 5: rattler cannot be good, like the defense whatever. But at
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  Speaker 5: least like.
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  Speaker 6: You're you're looking back and you're saying, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Like two of the most expensive positions they've hit on,
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  Speaker 5: and this is the foundation going forward. I think Banks
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  Speaker 5: is going to be that type of guy, and I
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  Speaker 5: expect him to be impact from from day one. I
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  Speaker 5: don't expect to see a ton of struggles some I mean,
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  Speaker 5: obviously he's he's young, but he looks a little bit more.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, it's.
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  Speaker 6: Tough to say that, but like you know, just kind
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  Speaker 6: of the way he.
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  Speaker 5: Carries himself, like he's coming in with like a little
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  Speaker 5: bit more maturity than some of their other first round
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  Speaker 5: picks that that we've seen in recent years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the person that they're going to be paving
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  Speaker 3: the way for blocking for we haven't talked to you
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  Speaker 3: a lot about him yet. It is Alvin Kamara. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: a guy that's been, you know, such a high performer
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  Speaker 3: for so long. I mean, the guy's going to be
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  Speaker 3: absolute ancient this year, is gonna be turning thirty before
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  Speaker 3: the season starts. Tell me how you've seen how you
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  Speaker 3: and you see him playing out in this Kelimore offense.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, we saw what he did with uh Saquon
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  Speaker 3: Barkley last year, you know, reviving his career. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: a different type player than Kamara. But how do you
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  Speaker 3: see him fitting in and what can we expect fro him?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean first like him being thirty, obviously that's tough.
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  Speaker 5: I kind of have faith and how he's gonna how
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  Speaker 5: he's gonna age one day, it's just gonna happen and hit.
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  Speaker 5: But I spent a week with him last year just
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  Speaker 5: at his house, like where he gets all his his
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  Speaker 5: work done and he brings in his team of people.
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  Speaker 6: And all that.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not exaggerating when I say that, Like he
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  Speaker 5: was on this this table just getting worked on literally
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  Speaker 5: for eight hours a day, like just on a table,
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  Speaker 5: people working on him doing stuff. Like he takes incredible
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  Speaker 5: care of his body. And you know, I think that's
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  Speaker 5: gonna help him. What's not gonna help him is if
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  Speaker 5: he has as many touches as.
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  Speaker 6: He did last year.
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, if there's anything to be concerned about,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's that he had a career high in touches.
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  Speaker 5: I hope that there is another option at that position
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  Speaker 5: like someone someone that that you know is worthy. It
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  Speaker 5: carries because I think you got to ramp that number
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  Speaker 5: down a little bit and you know, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think you they put team first all that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But like I do think keeping him, you know, upright
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  Speaker 6: and going for this year next year.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's he's a core piece of you know,
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  Speaker 5: a rebuilding team.
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  Speaker 6: You got him under.
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  Speaker 5: Contract, he isn't going anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: Like, he's a guy that you want.
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  Speaker 5: Around, like helping you set your culture in and making
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  Speaker 5: sure that you know, this is a guy that some
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  Speaker 5: of these young players can look at as they're doing
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  Speaker 5: this rebuild. He's kind of the last bridge to the
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  Speaker 5: past of you know, the old way of doing things
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  Speaker 5: to the new way. But I think he's going to
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  Speaker 5: be good to go. Man. Like the thing with him
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  Speaker 5: after twenty like.
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  Speaker 6: The big issue.
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  Speaker 5: You look, his yards before contact remained the same basically
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  Speaker 5: every single year. It's just the kind deteriorated. And then
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  Speaker 5: you know he's not getting those yards before contact. He's
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  Speaker 5: getting hit quicker. You know, you go from four point
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  Speaker 5: three to three point nine because that yards before contact
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  Speaker 5: has dropped you know, three times to the yard and
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  Speaker 5: there's the difference like right there. If they can keep
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  Speaker 5: that up, like it went.
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  Speaker 6: Up a little bit last year.
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  Speaker 5: They started getting banged up on the line. You saw it, Dipagan.
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  Speaker 5: I think as the line goes, he goes. And I
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  Speaker 5: think if you give him a little bit of space
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  Speaker 5: and that that first guy hitting him as a linebacker,
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  Speaker 5: he still has that contact balance to bounce off those
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  Speaker 5: people and make something happen. But if it's you know,
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  Speaker 5: Jared Verse, like you're you're in trouble and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think, you know, as the line goes, he'll go,
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  Speaker 5: and yeah, Banks Sauaga, I mean, that's that's the whole
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  Speaker 5: idea behind putting Penning a guard is that he's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be a baller and he's gonna get you those those
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  Speaker 5: yards before contact, you know, in the run game, assuming
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  Speaker 5: he fits or the pass pros. You know that that's
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  Speaker 5: the big question. But if those guys are healthy and
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  Speaker 5: they're blocking for him, I think he's gonna get every
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  Speaker 5: single yard and more. He always has just kind of
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  Speaker 5: you know, the line just hasn't been good the last
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  Speaker 5: couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: Nick, If I was to throw it to the other side,
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  Speaker 2: the defense side of the football, give me two players
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  Speaker 2: the most important young defender on this team and the
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  Speaker 2: most important VET on this team. As far as these
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  Speaker 2: two guys need to show up if the Saints want
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  Speaker 2: to be who they you know, expect to be new coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of new pieces on defense.
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  Speaker 5: Man, I'm worried about the defense. I a big time
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  Speaker 5: older players easy, older players easy. I think it's to
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  Speaker 5: Mario the young guy.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, Yeah, I like I kind.
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  Speaker 5: Of want to go wild card and say, like, if
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  Speaker 5: Alante Taylor plays well, maybe they have a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of a of a building block there. If it might
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  Speaker 5: give him a guy that that's worthy of his second
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  Speaker 5: contract like that, those would be two really good things
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  Speaker 5: for them, you know, going forward. I think he has
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  Speaker 5: the skill set to possibly be dynamic in the role
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  Speaker 5: that they want him to play in. We've seen, you know,
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  Speaker 5: Staley's done some really interesting stuff with guys playing that
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  Speaker 5: nickel position. Jalen Ramsey moved inside for him, and with
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  Speaker 5: the Rams he played really well there. Derwin James has
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  Speaker 5: had success there before Alante went to the outside. There's
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  Speaker 5: this stat it's like, I think it's called like the
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  Speaker 5: chaos metric or whatever something the thirty third team puts together,
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  Speaker 5: but it's like tackles for a loss, pass, breakup, sacked,
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  Speaker 5: you know, just just a lot of you know, things that.
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  Speaker 6: Create havoc and a metric. And he was leading the
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  Speaker 6: league in that stat and you know, he was getting a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of stacks early on last year. I think if
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  Speaker 5: he can play well there and they can keep him
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  Speaker 5: in that role, like potentially he's a guy that I
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  Speaker 5: think as legitimate outside kool Aid's another easy pick for
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  Speaker 5: that one. But like the guy that I'm betting on,
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  Speaker 5: young guy, I mean, I don't know, I think someone
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  Speaker 5: needs to kind of emerge there at this point. There's
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  Speaker 5: a lot of guys that it's like, if he's good,
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  Speaker 5: it's a huge thing, Like Brian Berze. If he plays
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  Speaker 5: better against the run the pair with the stack ability,
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  Speaker 5: you kind of got a good player or there maybe
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  Speaker 5: you know, right now he's kind of a liability on
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  Speaker 5: first and second, so if that would change, that would
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  Speaker 5: be huge for him. So, I mean, there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of guys that I think, like have potential, haven't met
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  Speaker 5: it and could step up. But it's a little it's
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  Speaker 5: bleak on that side until like some of those things
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  Speaker 5: come into focus.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Nick, as we all know, like when you select
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  Speaker 2: somebody in the first three rounds, you expect a lot
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  Speaker 2: from them. I'm not saying they have to be superstars,
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  Speaker 2: but they got to give you something. Certainly, as a
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  Speaker 2: second round pick, you got to be able to contribute.
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  Speaker 2: You got to be able to be a guy that
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  Speaker 2: you know can be a starter, that can be a
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  Speaker 2: quality player on whichever side of the football. And so
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  Speaker 2: you probably know, I'm going to Isaiah Foski. Is it
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  Speaker 2: already just a punt on him?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Is that just Hey, he's gonna play some special teams,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna run out his rookie contract, and then that's
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  Speaker 2: just going to be it. And the only reason you
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  Speaker 2: don't cut him is because he's a second round pick?
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  Speaker 2: Or is there anything that we can expect from him
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side, it.
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  Speaker 5: Looks like they're trying, you know, they're trying to see
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  Speaker 5: if they can get him into, you know, some type
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  Speaker 5: of useful role. He's getting a lot of run Oka's
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  Speaker 5: in mini camp. I found myself baffled by this one,
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  Speaker 5: like fortieth pick from Notre Dame, like real production, Like
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  Speaker 5: it's just it's mystifying to me that that there's I
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  Speaker 5: can see like not living up to potential, but where
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  Speaker 5: is that just kind of makes no sense, Like this
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  Speaker 5: isn't it. This isn't you know San Antonio or wherever
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  Speaker 5: the hell you know they've gotten some of these other
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  Speaker 5: guys from, Like this is a real a real player
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  Speaker 5: from Notre Dame, like playing against real teams with you know,
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  Speaker 5: real stacks against real opponents. And he was the record
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  Speaker 5: the sack records that are at Notre Dame like that
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  Speaker 5: that's supposed to mean something. I thought that was maybe
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  Speaker 5: the safest pick they had made in years, and then
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  Speaker 5: it just doesn't you know, you kind of saw a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of like unrefinedness to his game when you
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  Speaker 5: watched him, Like okay, but if he adds like this
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  Speaker 5: or that, like maybe maybe there's something really good here.
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  Speaker 5: But the floor on this blows my mind. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: think he's at that that do or die point, like
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  Speaker 5: you kind of got to see something or you let
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  Speaker 5: him go. I think one of the things that might
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  Speaker 5: stablem though, is if he doesn't live up the expectation
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  Speaker 5: is like who's taking his job like that? That's kind
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  Speaker 5: of the the issue on the defense, Like if it's
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  Speaker 5: not am, like who else like they don't have anybody.
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  Speaker 6: At that position.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have you know, I don't really feel like
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  Speaker 5: that they got the top end talent, they don't have
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  Speaker 5: the depth. Like it's a tough it's a tough existence.
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  Speaker 6: Right now for them. So yeah, maybe, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 6: maybe maybe he's on the team, maybe he's not.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm not expecting anything from him though.
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  Speaker 6: I think I think, you know.
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  Speaker 5: The the idea of him putting it together is maybe
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  Speaker 5: sailed a little bit for me, like I got to
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  Speaker 5: see it. I'm not banking on anything from him at all.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good point he brings up. If you you're
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  Speaker 3: down on a person and you're like, well, we need
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  Speaker 3: to get him replaced, But like who you're replacing him
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  Speaker 3: with is a question. You might as well stick with
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  Speaker 3: a guy that you, at one point at least you
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  Speaker 3: believe could do something. But Nick, you probably gave one
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  Speaker 3: of the greatest answers ever heard when Jake generically asked
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  Speaker 3: you about the defense and you said it's not great.
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  Speaker 3: So Jacob and I don't know if he's told you
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  Speaker 3: or not, but like we've kind of gotten into sports
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  Speaker 3: cards recently, and we always kind of laugh because we're
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  Speaker 3: always chasing these big hits, but we get so many
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  Speaker 3: kool Aid the chemistry.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, so we have If kool Aid ends up
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  Speaker 2: being like Ed Reid, we're both retiring.
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  Speaker 3: Lat kool Aid make a couple of Pro Bowls. Just
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  Speaker 3: let him.
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  Speaker 4: I promise.
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  Speaker 3: We got the cards to back it up. But you
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  Speaker 3: talk about from top to bottom on the defense, how
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  Speaker 3: it's right now, you know it's figuring a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff out. It's not great, but you can expect it.
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  Speaker 3: When that happens. That happens in the NFL, it happens.
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  Speaker 3: It happens at all. When that happens, and you can't
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  Speaker 3: just out one on one teams, you can look for
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  Speaker 3: you can look for a lot of exotic feast or
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  Speaker 3: famine type game plans, type defenses and get really creative
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of your game plan and try trying
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  Speaker 3: to create confusion on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: And I know, when OTAs in mini camp, it's really
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  Speaker 3: kind of like they're not going to install a lot
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  Speaker 3: of that stuff, but they probably would have already started
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  Speaker 3: putting the foundation and pieces of that in place. Have
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  Speaker 3: you seen anything on the defensive side of the ball
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  Speaker 3: that would lead you to believe that we could get
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  Speaker 3: to like a non traditional type of third down defense
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  Speaker 3: or any non traditional types of defenses.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there wasn't a lot like it was kind
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  Speaker 5: of the base early on, and then by the end
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  Speaker 5: of Mini camp, like we were starting to see you know,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of a little bit of dime, a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of you know, nickel stuff. And I think
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  Speaker 5: within that, like you saw a little you know show
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  Speaker 5: show to rotate in the in the you know, cover three, Like,
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't a ton of stuff that that you're kind
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  Speaker 5: of dissecting and being like, oh man, that was crazy.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 5: I think they were kind of you know, hitting the
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  Speaker 5: tip of the iceberg on some of that stuff.
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  Speaker 6: But like, really, when you do go back and look.
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  Speaker 5: At Staley though throughout you know, time and throughout the years,
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  Speaker 5: I think that is kind of the hallmark of what
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  Speaker 5: he does on defense. And you know, Da did a
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  Speaker 5: lot of it too. He was kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: at the forefront of bringing some of those simulated pressures
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  Speaker 5: and stuff into the league. But I think everyone caught
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  Speaker 5: up and then started to buy a little bit at
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  Speaker 5: the end. Yeah, So I think I think Stately, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think we're definitely gonna see some of that stuff though,
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  Speaker 5: And I think that really is kind of what they're
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  Speaker 5: all about. And you know, they really really do a
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  Speaker 5: good job of holding those shelves, like right until the
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  Speaker 5: very end and then sometimes even beyond the staff and
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  Speaker 5: when they're even you know, first down, they do some
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  Speaker 5: of that. And they don't like to put that extra
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  Speaker 5: guy in the box.
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  Speaker 6: They like to.
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  Speaker 5: Bring that guy like from anywhere like it, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: sometimes it leaves them a little bit vulnerable to allowing
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  Speaker 5: a big explosive run, but sometimes like they're killing people
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: with it too, and I think that was one of
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: the things that maybe got them in trouble a little
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: bit at the end and with the chargers.
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: But you know, you clean that up a little bit,
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: you get a little.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: Bit more calculated. You know, I think that there is
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: benefit to it. And when you're watching, it's just like
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: one of those things, it's like, man, why why don't
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: more people do this?
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: You know, then.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: It's a little bit of feast or famine.
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: But like when you have a team like this that's
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: maybe a little.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: Bit deficient on talent, like maybe leading into you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: some of that risk is a calculated thing that you
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: might have to do, you know, as you were saying,
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: so it would make a lot of sense. But I
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: do think that is kind of the the identity of
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: him in general is kind of, you know, that master
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: of dis guise, trying to dress things up, making it
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: look a little bit different. And you know, I think
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: that's one thing I like about the staff too, though,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: is that it's a lot of younger guys that kind
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: of live on the Internet and they're you know, not
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: afraid to tell you that, Hey, I was watching a
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: high school football clip and we liked what we did here,
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: and we're bringing this in like that's stuff that they're doing.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: They're searching for new ideas. So I would be surprised
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: if if things look static and if there aren't times
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: where you're watching you're like, damn, where the hell did
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: that come from? I think that's going to be part
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: of their identity.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: Look, I can fully get behind that because I can
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: tell you, as an eight U flag football offensive coordinator,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Nick I scour the internet looking for new plays and
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: new ways to get the ball to playmakers, and I
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: am a okay with it.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's just so many like good accounts to
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: like Casey Caseyible Yeah, man, Like they're just like they're
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: out there and there's just something that I get the
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: email every day from from uh Dan Casey, uh the
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: match quarters guy. Like there's just a Cody Alexander that
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: there's a ton of them out there that that just
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: kind of a posting stuff all day long. And I,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: you know, I think that's that's where this staff kind
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: of lives and exists, and uh, you know, it's kind
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: of it's kind of interesting. Like kellm moore actually brought
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Dan Casey out I think one time to the Chargers
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: like for training camp.
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: I think he was out there in the there like meeting.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Rooms just because he liked the stuff that they he
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: does online. So it's a curious bunch of people that
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: that I think are going to constantly be looking for
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: new ideas.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, I forgot Flinn. Let you know, uh Flynn
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: hates quarters like he can't.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Stand because as a quarterback, I loved it, right.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I hate when my cheer for so a couple of
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: years go when Matt House at LSU was like.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Remember when j quorters every time we got the ball, Yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: we played quarters every time they got the ball.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say there's a lot of quarter beaters
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: out there that are pretty uh, pretty easy to find.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: But you'll learn how. You'll learn that about Flynn.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: If if we talk quarters defense, he is going to
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: just leave the conversation.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean everyone did kind of overdose on it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: For a while. He did.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: It was like it was like a safe play. Nick.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: It's like when everybody like didn't know what to do
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: or they were trying to like, Okay, let's get punched
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit and we'll just kind of get our
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: feel of the game.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: It's like quarters, that's what we're gonna play.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: We always have like game plans with quarter checks. Like
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: if the quarterbacks saw quarters, like he was free to
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: change the play to the quarterbater. It usually worked.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Ye there.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right he is Nick Underhill, New Orleans
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Dot Football. Nobody does it better go check out the side.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: We were lucky to have him everyday here on O TV.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Nick. We appreciate it. Sarah. We'll catch up again with
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: you next week.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, take it easy, guys.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: When we come back.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I know that half of this is radio half as visual,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: but we'll try to give you a breakdown of why
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: quarters defense is so easy to kind of manipulate and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you kind of dictate what happens if you're the offense.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: And again, I'm gonna throw this to Flynn to be
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: able to tell you the story on radio and visual.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: That's on him. I'm just the hust throwing it to him.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: We'll be back breaking down quarters defense here on OTV.
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. It's off the
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• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All right, We're about to talk a little defense here,
• 20:19
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• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Speaking of flag football, did y'all see the big news
• 21:42
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• 21:44
  Speaker 3: we all? So there's a lot of it's not controversy.
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  Speaker 3: There's just a lot of conversation about who should be
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the team because there's I think it's a team from Louisiana, or.
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  Speaker 4: At least a quarter Louisiana.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Darryl du sat So he's been playing for FLA Football
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: for a long time, knows everything about has won all
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the championships, blah blah blah, great player in flag football.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: He recently kind of made headlines with an interview saying,
• 22:09
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• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and it was he said it the right way. It's like, look,
• 22:16
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• 22:19
  Speaker 3: reasons because I know the rules better, Like you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Patrick's one of the greatest in the all time blah
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: blah blah. Like in flag football, which I don't disagree with,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: it's a completely different game. I think a couple of
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: years ago they did the NFL Flag Challenge where NFL
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: players they did I think it was for charity, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: they did a big tournament. I think Michael Fick play
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: like a lot of the current players are playing too.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And those guys, the flag football guys did win it all,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: like they beat all those guys. It just kind of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: brings up the like the question to me, will they
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: let the NFL players play? And if they do, how
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: long do they give them to prepare or do they
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  Speaker 3: players and like Darryl Ducett to see who But if
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  Speaker 3: they let the NFL players plays, it's just like, yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, Patrick Rose want to play, you'r.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Have a training camp, have some skills competitions, have some
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: scrimmages competition.
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  Speaker 3: The skills competition is not gonna.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Be I'm saying close that are that are flag relevant.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I come up with drills I should.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I think you would listen. I keep bringing Patrick Mahose
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: because Daryl brought him up in his interview, like if
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: he wants to play, does he get to play? Yeatrick,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: even if it doesn't give you the best opportunity.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Like receivers and stuff like the receiver give me gents,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you can have whoever you want from the flag football team,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I'll take him.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Uh, we'll see.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Fullbacks aren't talking flag football? Get out here? Who cares
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: about that?
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: You just talked about it with the leap.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, youth not grown.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: That's what you call a radio pro transition right there,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit of one. I'm pretty proud of you.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: But we're talking professional football now because we just talked
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: about the Saints and quarters defense. Okay, yep, so we're
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: gonna break this down. So Matt hates quarters defense. A
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: lot of people run that now and you hear people
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: talk about it, and it is a safe defense. It
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: is something that if the defensive coordinator again, like if
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: he's trying to kind of figure things out and see
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: how everything kind of plays out early in the game,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: certainly this is going to be what they throw out
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: there because it is a keep everything kind of in
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: front of you type defense. It's a safe defense, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: there are certainly ways to not keep everything in front
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: of you if you're an offense.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's always been popular. It's one
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of the oldest, like besides like Manda Man like one
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: of the.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Oldest, right, But when we were playing in the NFL Like,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: not a lot of people are running this.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: It kind of depends on who the coordinator, what's your
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: team was skill set a lot in the West. Let
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: me take you so, quarters is something you're going to
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: see a lot in high school, right, You're going to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: see it a lot in middle school high school because
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: it is designed to stop both the run and the pass.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: So in theory, it's designed to stop it's too high safety,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: so we all think of like, too high safety, it's
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: better to run, so you get too safty gives you
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: four dbs across the top. So you're splitting the defense
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: into quarters here, So the corner the corners have the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: outside quarters, the safeties have the inside quarters. You're cutting
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the field into basically a high right yep. But it
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: also puts your safeties at about ten to twelve yards
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: from a line of scrimmage, so they also can help
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: run support. So they read through the quarterback and watch
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: for the run first and then react to real to
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: the pass. So the reason why it is such a
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: great defenses for offenses a scheme is really the what
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: the two safeties are taught to do. So we got
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: a two by two two bout two offensive formation here.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: So what they do if they know it's a pass,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: they're always they have their eyes to the backfield. So
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: if it's if it's a handoff, they they get to
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: react up because quarters is you know, like said, it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: meant to be able to assist with the running game,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: which is different than like a cover two halves kind
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: of look. So if it is a pass, what this
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: safety does right here, he's watching number two. The number
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: two receivers are slot, so we count from the outside,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: so number one is the outside receiver, too, is the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: inside receiver if number two goes inside. So if he
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: decides to run a drag across the field or a
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: post route, or if he goes inside at all, number
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: two takes them. Okay, If he goes up the field,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: he takes them, yeah, all right. If he goes across
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the field short, okay, the safety then turns a double
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: number one. So if he passes his guy off number two,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: if he passes them off, he turns a double number one.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: The problem is is if number two goes vertical, the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: safety has to take them because this, uh, this linebacker
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: right here, you got it. We got an s linebacker here.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Whatever this is. But it's the sam line back, so
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: he's not going to carry him down the field. He's
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: gonna If number two goes vertical, the safety is gonna
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: take him down the field. So this is why it
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: is so so susceptible to a deep ball. All you
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: gotta do is run number two across the field to
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the inside deep into the middle of the field, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: he has to take him, which sets your which sets
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: the cornerback one on one with the re So every
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: time when I talk about like checks that you want
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: in quarters, like a quarter's check, it has to do
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: with some sort of post drop. A lot of people
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: also run like a post with a corner. Here, it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: really hard to pass that off. Safety's corners have to
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: be really good at passing a post or a corner off,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: or they have to play it like man. Usually they
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: get screwed up.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: What's another two man route combination that you like against quarters?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Now, anything that depends on the weakness personnel wise, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: mean as simple go with an out route from number
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: two is easy, especially if you get a linebacker matched
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: up on a wide receiver.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Uh Now, number two has to get across the corner's
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: face still, because even though he's dropping like you don't
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: want him to be able to break it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's this corner will so especially if if this
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: number two is pushing up. Yeah, this safety is never
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: going to double number one. So the cornerback has.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: To Yeah, he's on buy, so he's gonna out.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: He will Number one is gonna outside release, attack his
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: outside shoulder. He's gonna clear number one out. The corner
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: will never unless he just screws up. He will never
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: drop off and undercut this out roud. That's what cover
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: twos for. So in a two by two set, you'll
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: see quarters. If he goes a three by one set,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: let's take let's see it. Say the Z guy comes
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: over here to this side of the field. Most teams
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: should not say they do. They should check out at quarters.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: They will usually check out a quarters and go to
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: some sort of three week or they'll call cover two.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: A lot of people would call that like a banjo
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: chag that there's different names for it. You're laughing because
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you heard it. You safety, You're like, hey, come on, man,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: So it's like, so you can you can screw teams up.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: That's why the use of motion is such a big deal,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: because if you know that it's like a banjo team.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we're gonna start in two by two,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: we're gonna run to a three by one, and then
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: we're gonna run back to two by two and they're
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: having to change boom, boom, boom, a lot of stuff.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of the wheels are turning on the defense.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: But yeah, this is one of the reasons why I
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: think with the first touchdown pass I threw in the
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: peach ball to Buster Davis was against quarters. We ran
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: a hitcher oute right here and he Buster Davis ran
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like a fake in and go. Yeah. I mean it
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: is susceptible to so many deep plays. And oh yeah,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I forgot to mention, you're one on one on the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: cornerback outside for quick hitches hinge routes, because they're they're
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: taught to get back. They're taught to get back. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: so it is one on one outside. So yeah, there
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: you go. Here's a breakdown.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Well done there, Matthew. And throughout the football season we
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: are going.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: To have film. We're going to break down plays offensive lead.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: We're gonna really nerd out, Yes.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Yes we are.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And then once we had the film, obviously it's gonna
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: be you know, your favorite Tigers and we'll talk about it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: We've done this before with Flynn, gonna do more of that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: And as Taylor puts up there, it's kind of a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: diagram and different zones that everybody has in that certain deal.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna see how this like really translates to just
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  Speaker 3: just the radio if we can teach it well enough
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to paint the picture.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we want you to be at the water cooler
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  Speaker 2: on Monday morning saying did you see the quarter quarter?
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  Speaker 4: Hass you see that? Said they were playing I don't
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  Speaker 4: really love that.
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  Speaker 3: What was a curl flat defender doing on that coverage?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
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  Speaker 2: You were going to sound like the smartest guy in
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the room and you're gonna know exactly what you're talking
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  Speaker 2: about there.
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  Speaker 4: So nice job there, Matthew.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of bad routes against quarters too, and.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about the good stuff.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about the good stuff. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to learn football this season.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Garrett Nesmeyer would love to see quarters defense in the
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: first game.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Put it that way. I'm telling you, your eyes light
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: up as a quarterback, especially in an offensive coordinator, your
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: eyes light.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Up I'm gonna look up what Clemson stop coverage was.
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully it's quarters.
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  Speaker 4: I hope it is too. More OTV when we come
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  Speaker 1: Penish off the bench.
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  Speaker 2: Are welcome back OTV Flann good question from Bilbo Baggins
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  Speaker 2: inside the Bay four chat.
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  Speaker 4: His quarters coverage always a four man front.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Oh good question. No, no, no, no, you can run most
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: any coverage with any type of front. We kind of
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: put this uh picture on here because it's like the
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: most generic, you know, four linebackers, a base defense, three linebackers,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: four down linemen, four DB's. That's like the basic look.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Now from this, you can get people in these positions
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: in multiple different ways. There's endless amounts of ways. Some
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: are more dangers than others. You can you can walk
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: around the defensive lineman. You could play it out a nickel.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: You can play it a dime. You can play it
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: out of quarters. So to break that down nickels as
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: five dyb's dime is sixty b's. Yeah, and we call
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: it nickel personnel, it would be sevent DB's. So you
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: can play it in all sorts of different ways. You
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: can fire zone blitz it, which means you're bringing pressure,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: so you bring you bring a blitz. Usually a fire
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: zone blitz is a five person blitz. If you bring
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: two linebackers, I mean you're dropping a defensive end and
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: usually you're dropping a defensive end to take the responsibility
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: of what a linebacker would usually be doing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Ye when you see what those defensiveands get an interception, like,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: how did the quarterback not seem that's the situation you're talking.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, usually it's impossible to see. You can based on
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: film preparation, you can kind of get the thought process
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: in your head that there might be a defensive line
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: dropping into the zone because of the pre stnet look
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: and which backers came. And you can't do fire zone
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: pressures on every cover, so if you like see man demand,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: usually there's not a defensive lineman dropping. But yeah, it's
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: a good question because everything starts with like the basic
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: high school quarters cover two, cover three man demand schematics,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and then after that. That's why the great defensive coordinators
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: they come up with all these creative ways based on
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: what the offense is doing to get to those same spots.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: Just create confusion along the way, and you're creating confusion
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: so you can get pressure on the quarterback because you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: not only confusing the quarterback what he's seeing, but you're
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: confusing the offensive lineman in pass protection and the running
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: back in pass protection.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many different ways you can manipulate coverages.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: You can show the quarterback different looks and you can
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: you know, get him to change his play and then
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you're you know, doing it just so he changes out
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: of his play even though you run the same coverage.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: There's so many different games that you can play. We
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: always talk about double am right with the linebackers, like
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: that is hell on the quarterback. It's held on the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: running back as well, because they're gonna play games and
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: we're gonna declare the mic one way and I've got
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to go across the formation to pick up the other backer. Well,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: that backer is going to drop at the last minute.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Here comes somebody else from the other side. I've already
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: committed to that linebacker because if I don't, he's going
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to sack the quarterback.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: So those are things that will break down.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: We're gonna break down. We'll do another we'll do the
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: film session break down some double A gaps. But right
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: now I really want to give the people what they want.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I want to go back and run it back and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: talk a little golf.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you did have some I want to talk about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: This year. We got the Ryder Cup coming, which is
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: the most electric, one of the most electric, in my opinion,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: sporting events out there, because it only happens every couple
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: of years. It is USA versus Europe. And there's a
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: lot of talk this week about it because of what
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: happened this past weekend with Keegan Bradley at the Travelers Championship.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Keek and Bradley, who is was named a year and
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: a half ago, believe as the captain for the USA
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: this year in the twenty twenty five Ryder Cup, which
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: it's back in the USA. It was in Rome, Italy
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: two years ago, so this year it's UT's see September
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: twenty fifth at Bethpage Black in New York, which is
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: a historic course, so the Ryder Cup will be there.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And for those of you who don't know, it's twelve
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: people from the US twelve people from Europe. And while
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: it's kind of in the news this week is Keegan Bradley,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: who is the captain, controversially got left off the team
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: that went to Rome two years ago, Zach Thomas was
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: he was the captain at that point. And what happens
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: with picking the teams is there six automatic qualifiers based
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: on points, so the top six guys for USA, top
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: six guys for Europe in the points based on tournaments
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: and majors are automatically in, and then there's six captains picks.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: The captain can choose whoever he wants. Yep. So Keegan
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Bradley had won this Travelers Championship a couple of years
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: ago and was on that bubble. There's about three four
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: guys on that bubble. Zach ended up choosing Justin Thomas
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: over Keegan Bradley, who had traditionally he was called like captain,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: a mayor. He was like a ryder cup dude. He
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: always showed out. He's been a great player from a
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: long time. But he had he wasn't having the season
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and he's had he had a he was having a
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: bad season leaning up to that point, so he kind
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of went and he chose him over Keegan. What's a
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: little bit controversial, and the only reason it is controversial
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: is because of the Netflix documentary Full Swing. So this
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: year he's in the same spot he just won this tournament.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I think he is ranked keegan now as the captain
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: is ranked ninth. So again it's a twelve man team.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: So he's got this unique opportunity now to be a
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: player captain, so to be the captain of the team,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: which is usually you know, not like an old old player,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: but like an older player that's kind of passed his prime,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: who isn't in threat of actually being a player we
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: haven't had like in the modern an air of golf,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: there's never been on either team be a player captain.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I think the last one was nineteen sixty three, a
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: man by the name of Arnold Palmer. Ever heard of him?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: They made a drink after him. Yeah, he was the captain,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: the player captain in nineteen sixty three. Since it hadn't
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: been I think there was a European one. I don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: even remember his name was, like in the fifties. So
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: this is a crazy situation. Automatic qualifiers currently Scotti Scheffler,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: of course was badass man on the planet with a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: golf globe his hand. Xander Schoffle jj Spahn just recently
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: won the US Russell Henley Bryson, d Chambeau and Justin
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Thomas r right now in the top six, Keik and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Bradley sitting at nine. So it's gonna be fun to
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: watch that again into September. Ryder Cup USA Europe. They
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: absolutely destroyed us in Rome two years ago, so we
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: got to come to fin our homeland. Have you seen
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Have you watched the Ryder Cup before four?
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I have because I remember it when House, who's from Shreveport,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: was the captain. Like, I remember it being a huge,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: huge deal, like in the city and everybody talked about
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: it for weeks leading.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Up to it.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: It was on the news and the paper every single day.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: So absolutely, yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Well it's one of the the golf tournaments always. You know,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: golf is about you know, respect, quiet please, like, let's
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: golf clap, let's show some respect. Not at the Ryder Cup.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: The Rider Cup is wear your American flag pants, go
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: out there, scream as loud as you can. I think
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: justin Thomas and I think it was Jordan Spieth the
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: last time it was in America. It might have been
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: whistling straits. Can't remember, uh, but you know they go
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: out to the first tea box holding beers, pumping up
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the crowd, O God, and they're chugging beers like it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: it's a rowdy environment. Yeah, you never in golf. You also,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: it's like the courtesy. You don't cheer against other people,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: but people are. I mean, it is a home it
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: is a true home field advantage situation. You're actively booing, cheering,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: uh booing other the other team booing Europe. When they
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: hit something good but and they miss up like a
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: two foot putt, the whole crowd goes crazy. And that
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: you don't ever see that in golf, which is which
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: that is one unique and I haven't been. It is
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: absolutely my bucket list. Are you gonna win, Oh, we're
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: gonna win. We're gonna dominate. I mean we got Scotti Scheffler, who,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: like I said, is the most dangerous guy in the world.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I mean I think.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: He he's like he's like minus odds for every golf turam.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: You know how hard that is to get minus odds
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: in a golf tournament to win it.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: It just doesn't matter what he does in a tournament,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Like he just doesn't ever make mistakes. Even when he
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: makes mistakes. Even this past two weeks ago at the
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: at the US Open, it was he made a triple
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: bogie on the whole one on a Saturday. He was
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I think he was close to the lead triple bogie,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: which usually is not gonna knock everybody out. Well, he
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: came back and he finished three off the lead. Like
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: he's just always there, always there, always there. I mean,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: God knows what the odds are for taking Scotti Scheffler
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: like to finish in the top ten every tournament.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: It's probably like minus three thousand. Yeah, if you're getting
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: again minus.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's minus. I think he's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I think he got.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: The last tournament and he was like minus one thirty.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: To win it. I think he was like plus two
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: twenty or something, which is the lowest odds to win
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: a golf tournament or a major since like Tiger Woods
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and like go six or something like that.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: All right, we are going to close out today's o
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in, ask the bench here to
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• 44:33
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