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Supernatural Hooters · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a Journey to the Fringe. Yep, that's that's
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me as you have come to learn So this topic has
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been on my radar for a little bit now It combines
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the best of all my favorite worlds except dinosaur
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ghosts. I got them on my mind though We got UAPs
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the paranormal abductions high strangeness and
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everything creepy especially something that I
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hate. Today we're looking at all in the paranormal
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world that is, who would have thought with that
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introduction, owls. I'm actually about to get
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somewhere in a book I'm reading on this topic.
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I'm very excited to see what you have for me.
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There's owls on it? Potentially. It's at least
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been teased a lot. Interesting. That makes part
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two even more if it wasn't already set up in
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the book as you need to read part two and constantly
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saying part two. Sorry, we're talking about ****.
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No, don't tell them. Josie's gonna beep that
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out, I feel. Sorry, guys. This is a Chelsea edit
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as well. So as always, this is just going to
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be an overview of the topic. It's a surprisingly
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diverse one with opportunity for future episodes.
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So let's talk about some owls. And I think the
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best place to start is with ancient folklore
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and owls. Well, sorry Chelsea, some of the people
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listening might not know what an owl is. Well,
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it's a creepy bird. I don't know, just Google
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it. I'm just assuming we're all on the same page
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here. Back to where I was going with this, people
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who don't know what owls are. Ancient folklore
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in owls. Across hundreds of cultures, owls hold
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deep spiritual significance. They are seen not
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only as animals, but as beings that move between
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the physical and spiritual worlds. They can be
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seen as spiritual messengers that many view as
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intermediaries between the living and the spirit
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world, protectors, symbols of transformation,
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spiritual messengers, or spirit -linked presences.
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Their ability to see in darkness symbolizes insight,
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hidden knowledge, and perception beyond ordinary
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human ability. Owls are frequently associated
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with death not only as evil omens but also evil
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omens which we'll talk about but on the opposite
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side they can also be viewed as guides who accompany
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souls or signal transformation. Owls symbolize
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endings that lead to new beginnings. As malevolent
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entities, harbingers of death or the restless
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spirits of the dead, hearing an owl hooting near
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your home is often considered a very bad omen.
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They can also be seen as warning agents or death
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omens. Can I also just add that people with fond
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memories of Ocarina of Time may know owls as
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the ones who explain the plot and let you know
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the controls. I have no idea what that means.
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Well, that's okay. Somebody might get it. I'm
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gonna peep it out. Others view owls as symbols
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of wisdom. Their quietness, night vision, and
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attentiveness make them symbols in intelligence
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and sacred knowledge. Some medicine people seek
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owl medicine for insight, healing, or prophetic
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vision. They hold a lot of symbolism across the
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world, across tons of different cultures. In
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Native American spiritual traditions, owls occupy
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a profound and multifaceted place. They symbolize
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wisdom, transformation, death, protection, and
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communication with the spirit world. A lot of
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what I just said. These traditions continue to
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shape cultural identity and conservation practices
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today. There is diverse meaning across the tribes,
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with many nations interpreting owls in unique
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ways. I'll name a few with as little detail as
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possible, as always. The Hopi have owl kachinas,
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which represent wisdom, and kachinas, they're
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cool things, I have one. Google them too, when
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you're googling owl, after that one. Open a new
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tab, keep the other tab for owl. Yeah, because
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you're gonna have to go back and be like, wait,
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what was an owl? Oh, right. And never close that
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owl tab. That's a journey to the fringe secret.
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That's how we do all our research. The Lakota
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suit, they connected to the Whoopi, a mediator
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between humans and supernatural. Is that what
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she's named after? I've always wondered where
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that name comes from. It could mean owl. I also
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could be saying it wrong. Also, Google Whoopi
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Goldberg now. We need to know this. Keep all
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the tabs open. We need you to research like we
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do. We're gonna walk you through it. The Pawnee,
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they see the owls as protectors and symbols of
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bravery. The Ojibwe associate them with both
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death and wisdom. They used owls as symbols for
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both evil and death. In addition, they use owls
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as a symbol of very high status of spiritual
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leaders and their spirituality. The Cherokee
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linked them to witchcraft and spiritual consultation
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between even tribes. It's amazing how they're
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good for one and bad for others. The Seminole
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believed that they were transformed shamans,
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which are the stikini. Skinwalkers. Essentially,
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right? And they come up multiple times in this
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episode. Skinwalker type creatures. The Stikini
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are sinister monsters from the Seminole folklore.
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Originally they were evil witches who transformed
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themselves into owl beings. By day they still
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resembled the Seminole people, but by night they
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vomit up their souls. along with their internal
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organs and become undead owl monsters that feed
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on human hearts. In Sun Seminole communities,
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speaking their name is thought to put you at
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risk for turning into one. So, Stikini stories
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are only told by certain medicine people and
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Chelsea. In other communities, they have been
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spoken more casually as boogeymen to frighten
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children. I think this is another place now that
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you can't go to, Chelsea. I'm quickly eliminating
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places I can go with this podcast. So, branching
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outwards from indigenous stories surrounding
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owls, among the Kiyu of Kenya, it is believed
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that owls were herbingers of death. If one saw
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an owl or heard its hoot, someone was going to
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die. In general, owls are viewed as herbingers
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of bad luck, ill health, or death. Can I just
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add, I really hope that owls weren't that calm
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in that area, because like, if you live where
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owls are, you hear like multiple hoots and night.
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It's true. Like you would lose like a genocide
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of your tribe in a season. yeah we grew up where
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owls were plentiful so we heard lots of owls
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and i don't remember death being that prominent
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well we did lose a cat to them in fact yeah well
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i mean one does that count i could yeah probably
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but we did hear a lot more owls than one definitely
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definitely um so in kenya i don't i don't know
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open another tab Send us... I have too many tabs
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open. Send us what it says for how many owls
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live in Kenya. The belief is widespread. Even
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today, owls are often considered omens of death
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or ghosts in various traditions. Are you Googling?
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I just heard typing. I am learning that barn
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owls live basically everywhere in Africa, which
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is crazy. Really? I didn't even know there were
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that many barns in Africa. Owls are so creepy.
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I didn't either. In China, owls are traditionally
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considered a sign of evil or misfortune, but
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are also seen as a symbol of good luck in military
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affairs, a symbol of protection and warding off
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evil spirits at funerals and even as the incarnation
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of ancestors. Even history's most infamous conquerors
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are not free from the influence of owls, with
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the hooting of the birds supposedly predicting
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the deaths of Julius Caesar and Augustus in ancient
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Rome, and for Genghis Khan, though, an owl may
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have rescued him from pursuers. They do so much.
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Moving on, we have the Roman Strix. In ancient
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Rome, there were tales of the Strix, a bird of
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ill omen that was believed to feed on human flesh
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and blood, often transforming into a witch. This
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is where we get the scientific name for true
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owls, Stringidae. The Roman Strix influenced
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later European folklore, contributing to the
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development of vampire legends, witchcraft narratives,
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and nocturnal demon myths. Its dual nature as
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both a bird and witch -like figure made it a
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powerful symbol of fear and the supernatural,
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persisting in culture memory for centuries. So
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that kind of summarizes my folklore and owls.
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We have a long history with owls. They hold a
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lot of symbolism. They've inspired a lot. So
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now that we covered the folklore, let's move
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on to the UFO connection, which is my personal
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favorite. Throughout this, we're going to be
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talking a lot about somebody named Mike Cleland,
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or maybe not talking a lot about it, but I use
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a lot of stuff that came from him. he's someone
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on the forefront of paranormal owl research,
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which is kind of a weird sentence to say. I don't
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think there's anyone else that is really doing
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the research. He has a couple of books, but most
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notable the Messenger's Owl Synchronicity and
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the UFO abductee and it's on my to read list,
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not for this episode evidently. Don't be worried
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about it though, I got you guys. First up, owls
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are linked with screen memories, which I don't
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think has come up on this episode before. In
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euphology, a screen memory is a false memory
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implanted by extraterrestrials. Are you saying
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scream memory or screen memory? Screen. and a
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screen memory is a false memory implanted by
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extraterrestrials to mask a traumatic or incomprehensible
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abduction event. It's exclusive to an abduction
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phenomenon, I think, at least in this scenario.
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Abductees frequently report seeing an impossibly
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large owl, often three to four feet, staring
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at them through a window or sitting on a dark
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road just before experiencing missing time. The
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idea is that when aliens are interacting with
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humans, they somehow are influencing people to
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see something other than a scary alien being
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in order to keep them calm through the experience.
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Yeah, keep you calm. Just a giant owl. A giant
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owl. And it seems that the most common screen
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memory people remember after such an experience
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is that of seeing strange three or four foot
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tall owls or just an owl in general. The perfectly
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calming. giant owl. Exactly. And personally,
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I would rather just have the abduction. I don't
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want any part of being close to an owl. Yeah,
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a giant owl. Yeah. No, thank you. So I do have
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a couple of examples of this. This is where it's
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going to get creepy. There is a movie that has
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completely escaped my mind right now, Taylor
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M***** Kind, and it deals exclusively with this.
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You're going to beep that, right? Yeah, probably.
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I'm gonna beep the fuck out of this episode.
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I can't recall off the top of my head. It just
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occurred to me while I was reading this that
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there's a movie on it. But I do have a couple
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of true story examples now. So first we have
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an experiencer, Karina Sables, who reported driving
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home with her family when she suddenly slammed
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on the brakes. In the glare of the headlight,
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she saw a typical grey alien standing on the
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side of the road. While she and her children
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begin to shake in terror her husband remain completely
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calm Turn to her and ask what are you guys so
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worried about? It's only a big owl This is textbook
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example of a localized screen memory where the
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phenomenon masks the entity for one witness while
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leaving the terrifying reality visible to others.
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I can't even imagine how I would lose it if that
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happened to me and I was seeing something that
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different from a person that I was with if I
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was seeing something terrifying. I don't even
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know what I would do. I'd rather be seeing a
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dinosaur ghost, you guys. So, another account
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documented by Clellan involves a group of friends
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driving at night. After watching a brilliant
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blue light descend from the sky and vanish beyond
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the tree line, a massive white owl suddenly appeared.
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The car was traveling at 55 miles per hour, yet
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the owl effortlessly kept pace, flying right
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next to the passenger window with its head turned,
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staring directly at the passengers inside before
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vanishing. This straight up sounds like one of
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the Mothman stories, doesn't it? Mothpersons.
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where she wanted to put the window down and talk
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to it. Yeah, there's gonna be some overlap a
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little bit between the two and I really think
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there is. Let's see what you think by the time
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we get to the end of this. But yeah, I mean people
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and encounters, they're unpredictable. Like,
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you never know what they're gonna do. In Sorbol,
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Sweden in summer 1966, two men traveling by moped
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pulled over for a bathroom break. and when they
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did noticed an owl sitting on a post behind the
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road. Shortly afterwards they claimed to have
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seen a large silvery craft hovering 150 meters
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above the ground and when it landed there appeared
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to be movement by strange humanoid figures within.
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We also have a gray connection with the with
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the owl sorry not the aliens the owls. Which,
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through hypnotic regression, many experiencers
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discovered that the giant big -eyed owl was actually
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a grey alien. The owl's oversized eyes and silent
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presence make it a convenient psychological overlay
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for the human brain, or the extraterrestrials,
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to use to mask the entity. Apparently. The sightings
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are closely related to UAP -associated phenomenon,
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and are also therefore linked to as we I think
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we already said maybe if not beep that contactees
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stop to admire an owl and when they're on their
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way again they realize hours have passed a theory
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is these owl's appearances could be screen memories
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physically implanted visions where owls were
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merely disguised stand -ins with hypnotic regression
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therapy later revealing something much weirder
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An experiencer shared two separate stories from
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friends who had nearly identical experiences.
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In both cases the person was driving late at
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night on a rural dirt road when they were forced
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to stop because a massive owl was standing dead
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center in their path refusing to move. The next
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thing both drivers remember was - Wait. Yeah,
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sorry did they like get out and move and the
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owl said no or did they just assume it was refusing
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to move? I Okay, my assumption is that do you
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think you got some road rage? Yeah, I that is
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that's my assumption is that there's honking
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there's light flashing going on and he shook
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his head So the next thing both drivers remembered
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was suddenly being further down the road or arriving
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at their Destination with hours of missing time
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having vanished in an instant So I think the
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owl had a little bit of road rage, too And he
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was like we'll take this there was probably two
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hours of just yelling and like he lost it to
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rage. Yeah next We have the shapeshifter and
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cryptic connections with owls. They're everywhere
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First up is La Lechuza In Mexican and Mexican
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-American folklore, Lelechusa is an old witch,
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or bruja, which has sold her soul to the devil
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in exchange for magical powers, allowing her
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to shapeshift into a giant owl. She is said to
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mimic the sounds of a crying baby to lure people
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outside at night. When witnesses see her, she
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is often described as an owl with the face of
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an old woman, or an owl that transforms back
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into a human figure when spotted. Wait, what?
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Why does it even transform if it just like immediately
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becomes a witch again if it's spotted? Doesn't
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that defeat the point of transforming it absolutely
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does but you're gonna see some a creepy story
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of this exact thing happening and it almost makes
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it even creepier could you imagine seeing an
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owl and It transforms into a human in front of
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you Would be thinking I definitely just saw something
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I was not meant to see in my life Yeah, I don't
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know how I would react to that happening I Think
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it would be like especially if it was on like
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a branch that clearly can't support a human.
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It's just like trying to figure it out Because
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like they don't get to control where they are
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when you see it. That's true. Just like teleporting
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It's no fun. Yeah, just a Waffle House any waffle
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So there's a famous story. The 1975 Robstown
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Big Bird Panic. Which is - Not to be confused
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with another Big Bird. So this comes from a Texas
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historical news account. The Corpus Christi Caller
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Times in 1975. La Luchusa is deeply rooted in
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Mexican and Tejano folklore as a witch who slopes
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her soul to shapeshift into a giant owl. In 1975,
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the rural town of Robstown, Texas was swept by
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a mass panic when residents flooded police with
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calls about a massive, silent bird -like creature
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swooping over the trees. It was far too large
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to be a normal bird, but the truly terrifying
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detail was its face. as any owl. Witnesses claim
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the giant owl had the face of a human being and
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some even reported it having human feet. I mean
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the human feet is one thing but have you ever
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seen the face of an owl? They're creepy and some
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people might be confused. That's why I'm having
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you all google owl because you need to be prepared
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for if you were to ever see one and not be confused
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with a human face. But this owl could have had
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a human You didn't know you might just think
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that that's an owl sitting there You need to
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know the difference and so that happened in 1975
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and it was a mass sighting. Here's some more
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La Luchusa encounters We have a user that shares
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a terrifying family story from Monterrey, Mexico.
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Their mother woke up at 3 a .m. Is it mostly
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Mexican? Yeah. Okay. I guess it's the ones that
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are transforming story, I guess. Yeah. I mean,
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this is a thing of their folklore. Yeah. Okay.
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So the mother woke up at 3 a .m. to the sound
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of their usually quiet dog barking viciously
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at the balcony. The mother found the person whose
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story this is. who was just an infant at the
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time, flipped face down on the mattress with
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pillows inexplicably tossed across the room.
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Hovering right by the open balcony door was the
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ugliest, most gigantic black owl the mother had
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ever seen. The dog lunged at it and the creature
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vanished into the night and the family fully
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believes La Lechuza was attempting to snatch
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the child. Then we have a user from South Texas
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taking a smoke break with a buddy during a night
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shift without making a single sound an impossibly
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large owl estimated to have a massive six -foot
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windspam. glided down into the parking lot right
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next to him. The user noted that the sheer unnatural
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size of the bird gave them instant chills, paralyzing
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them both with the terrifying realization that
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the creature looked large enough to physically
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lift a person off of the ground. Then we have
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user Thickprick who says, when he was around
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10 years old, my mom and her friend were sitting
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around drinking beer. She started talking Mexican
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folklore and began telling me the story about
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the Lichusa. Something about how it's a female
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witch in the form of an owl and if you see an
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owl it means someone has cast a bad spell on
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you. This was at night during the fall and we
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lived in the city somewhere with not much wildlife.
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When she was done with the story, she opened
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up the backsliding door to have a smoke and sitting
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on the fence in the dark looking at us was a
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big ass fucking owl. Okay, that has to be somebody
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fucking with them. Wouldn't that be so creepy?
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Like tell that story and then go and open the
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door and there's an owl? Yeah. I feel like they
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are getting set up. Really? But how would - Maybe.
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I was already a little scared from hearing some
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witch story, but seeing my mom and her friend
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turn white and nope, the door fucking closed
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had me shook for months. To be fair, you can
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just buy a fake owl from the hardware store.
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That's true. They keep crows away. Yeah. I'd
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never seen - Because crows hate them. Because
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when they look at them, they turn into a crow.
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It's true. i've never seen an owl in my life
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up to the point that have maybe only seen a couple
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in the past 25 years still gives me chills user
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red fox jr 2210 My great grandpa told me a story
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one time where one was perched on the roof of
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his house on his ranch He would curse it in Spanish
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and when he started saying the rosary He said
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the face of the person that put the curse on
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him appeared on the owl and it flew away He and
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my stepdad both had similar stories. I wish just
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like randomly yelling at things was more a part
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of North American culture Oh, you know like old
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man yelling at owls cursing at them Just not
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a thing that really happens here. You put those
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people in different, like, facilities. Don't
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put me in a facility, okay? I like to yell at
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things. So user mori420 This was maybe five years
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ago and to this day it still gives me the creeps.
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I was with my buddy on our way to a friend's
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house to catch the UFC fight. We had stopped
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at the store for a case of beer and on the way
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to my friend's house we missed the turn. Luckily
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that neighborhood all of the streets are sort
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of connected so instead of doing a u -turn I
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just told my buddy just catch the next turn and
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do a full circle so we can turn around like that.
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Streets are pretty narrow since it's residential
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area and we were in a pickup truck with 24 inch
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rims. Well he starts slowing down and I'm looking
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at a scratch off to see if I won when my buddy
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goes, look someone's husky is just sitting in
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the middle of the road. I look up and I'm like
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nah man that's too big to be a husky so I told
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him to switch to his high beams. As soon as he
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did, whatever it was did not like it. So like
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I said, my friend's truck is sitting on big wheels
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and this thing still looked huge and it was maybe
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less than 10 feet away from us. When the light
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hit it, it turned its head. When I say we saw
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a human face on this thing, I mean we could make
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out eyes, nose, mouth, everything. Then it literally
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just spread these big ass wings and took flight.
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No noise from the wings, nothing. How would you
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hear it from a truck? We literally had to pull
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over to the side of the road to kind of just
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evaluate what the hell we saw. Got to my friend's
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house and told them what we just saw, but they
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didn't take us seriously, still don't know what
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the fuck we saw that night. Okay, someone pulls
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up to my house and they go I'm so freaked out
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you're never gonna believe what I saw and I Drop
25:26
ever I cancelled the plan and you're waiting
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to party cuz they're bringing beer to you Yeah,
25:31
I'm like turn off UFC. We got to listen to this
25:34
story and we take it the most seriously We've
25:37
ever taken anything in our lives To me, if you
25:43
have a paranormal experience around me, you best
25:46
know that I'm taking that seriously and all my
25:48
plans are cancelled to hear your paranormal story.
25:53
Okay, so next we have Owlman of Cornwall, UK.
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So this is the next Cryptid Up and I think has
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Owlman came up before for us? It sounds familiar,
26:06
but I don't think so. I know, I can't remember.
26:08
Anyhow, he's gonna be touched on briefly because
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he's a cryptid to do with an owl. He's a legendary
26:14
creature reported in 1976 and it is described
26:18
as a large owl -like humanoid entity with pointed
26:21
ears, glowing eyes, and giant talons. And I'm
26:25
not going to lie, he's reminiscent of Mothman
26:28
with one big difference. His name is Owlman.
26:33
People have seen the penis. I have no idea what
26:38
an owl penis looks like. I also don't know what
26:39
a moth penis looks like. We're just assuming
26:41
it has the human genitalia. Open a new tab. Open
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a new private tab. The first reported sighting
26:54
of the owlmen occurred in April 1976. when two
27:01
young girls, June and Vicky Melling, spotted
27:04
the creature near Monon Church. According to
27:07
their account, the owlman was hovering menacingly
27:11
above the church tower, watching them intently
27:13
with glowing eyes. The girls were so frightened
27:15
that their family cut their holiday short. Subsequent
27:19
sightings occurred through the 1970s and 80s,
27:22
with other witnesses describing similar encounters
27:25
near the church and surrounding woods. I have
27:27
a quick question. Has inflation gotten so bad?
27:30
that I don't think seeing a cryptid or an owlman
27:35
would make me end my vacation that I spent good,
27:39
hard money on. You know what? It went through
27:41
my head. I wasn't gonna stop what I was saying
27:43
to say that, but no, I'm for sure powering through
27:46
that. I'm not calling it off for fear. One notable
27:53
report came from two teenagers in 1978 who claimed
27:57
the owlman emitted a chilling screech before
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flying off into the night. These sightings often
28:04
coincide with quiet moonlit nights adding to
28:07
the creatures ominous aura. So other cryptids
28:11
we have include the Kick of Johan, Kiki yawn
28:16
a cryptid described as a ghost owl with razor
28:19
-sharp talons Short greenish gray hair and a
28:22
strong odor of dead snakes. I don't know that
28:26
I could identify that smell No, it's got to be
28:29
a specific smell though. It has to be and specific
28:33
enough that someone More than once because I
28:39
know if you smell it once you'd be like, oh,
28:42
yeah That's the smell of a dead animal in my
28:43
mind Like, you smell it again, like, no, no,
28:45
that's a distinct dead animal. Unless it is that
28:49
distinct, that you're like, I will never forget
28:53
the smell of dead snakes again, and that was
28:56
for sure it. It is said to be deadly, partially
29:00
ephemeral creature. Next cryptid is the Adamand
29:04
Wood Owl, a mysterious owl -like creature reported
29:07
in the dense forests of the Adamand Islands.
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As we can see, owls really have a huge imprint
29:15
on cultures and also cryptids. They're just all
29:19
over the place and I didn't get into it much
29:23
but there does also seem to be a link to owls
29:26
and high strangeness and synchronicities as well.
29:30
Some seem to link seemingly ungraspable mystical
29:33
links such as foreboding forewarnings or personal
29:37
spiritual awakening which we also see in the
29:40
folklore. Mike Clelland's research also points
29:42
out that people who experience UFO sightings
29:45
often report a sudden massive influx of owl sightings
29:50
in their daily lives bordering on the supernatural.
29:53
Owls appearing in times of prayer change including
29:57
death into moments of significant impact. There
30:00
are many people who tell stories about an owl
30:02
that would follow them around town for several
30:05
weeks or even months. They'd stay out in the
30:07
front yard on a light post or in a tree and then
30:10
would follow these people around town as they
30:13
ran errands, never interacting with them directly
30:16
but seemingly keeping an eye on them at all times
30:19
of the day. This came up quite frequently as
30:22
well with Mike Clellan that owls would appear
30:24
to someone after the death of a loved one. He
30:27
also connects them with UAPs and screen memories.
30:32
Now something that he does talk a lot in his
30:34
interviews I listen to quite a lot about this
30:37
and synchronicities are a big part of his work
30:40
with owls. A lot of people who said that they
30:44
were interviewing him, they were reading his
30:46
book, and all of a sudden they started seeing
30:49
owls everywhere. Now, I was reading a lot of
30:52
this, not his book, but I was listening to podcasts
30:56
with him on. I've been looking at owls researching
30:59
this. I will say I have not seen a single owl.
31:03
So there's that. I don't really want to see an
31:06
owl, so don't take that as an invitation, owls.
31:17
So I just wanted to say that because literally
31:20
on every interview people were like so I started
31:23
looking at owls for our interview and then I
31:25
all of a sudden saw an owl and he was like yep
31:27
that's the synchronicity no owls here Another
31:31
individual reports, What I want to read to you
32:01
next and end this episode on is a couple of singular
32:06
14 Accounts as well as a phantom and monsters
32:10
account. Let's start with the singular 14 This
32:14
one's a shorter one quote I had just gotten off
32:17
of work and was walking with my friend toward
32:19
the parking lot to go home as We walked we saw
32:22
something fly over us at first it looked like
32:24
a huge owl, but it was solid black The thing
32:27
flew over us and then landed by the edge of the
32:30
parking lot and was just standing there. We again
32:32
thought it was an owl until the son of a bitch
32:35
stood up. It was standing about seven feet tall.
32:38
Right in the way of our car. My friend shrieked
32:41
and that's when this I'm going to have to beep
32:45
that out turned around and we saw two glowing
32:48
red eyes that looked like they belong to the
32:50
devil himself. That's when we both screamed and
32:54
this demon spread his wings out lunched at us
32:56
while screeching at us It sounded like a bunch
32:59
of little girls all screaming at once geez and
33:02
was the scariest thing I've ever heard We ran
33:04
for the car and this sounds like an in -sync
33:07
concert We ran from my car and this thing acted
33:13
like it wanted to come after us as we ran to
33:15
the car. It took a step in our direction before
33:18
it took off into the air and was out of sight
33:20
in about three seconds. We could still hear it
33:23
screeching as it flew off into the night. I can
33:26
tell you that I never felt so scared and all
33:28
but pissed myself from fright. I thank the Lord
33:31
for watching over us and not letting that thing
33:33
attack us or drag us off to hell. Here's my final
33:38
one. This one comes from Phantoms of Monsters,
33:41
Lon Strickler, and I did confirm when I was on
33:45
Singular 14, it is not Lon Strickler, but he
33:48
works with them. So he has encounters on their
33:51
website as well, which is why I said that wherever
33:54
it came up last. Yeah, I can't remember where
33:56
it came up either. No, but it did come up. It
33:59
was the little people. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:02
Yeah, so. That's what I'm talking about when
34:05
I say that. This is the next encounter I live
34:08
in El Paso, Texas and back in 2007 I moved to
34:11
the lower valley for about seven months. I was
34:14
16 at the time I was still trying to figure myself
34:17
out and being the new kid made things rough.
34:20
I got bullied a lot so I started sneaking out
34:23
at night and walking around the apartment complex
34:25
to clear my head. During those walks I saw all
34:28
kinds of strange things. I would catch sight
34:30
of a girl dressed in white. At times I saw flashes
34:34
of what looked like a man hanging from a tree.
34:36
There were shadows, odd lights, and other things
34:39
I still cannot explain. The unsettling part is
34:42
that I was not the only one seeing strange activity
34:44
there. Other people in my family experienced
34:47
things too but the one thing none of us have
34:49
ever forgotten is the owls. About a week before
34:53
we moved my best friend wanted to spend the night
34:55
so we could hang out before I left. He ended
34:58
up feeling sick and decided to go home so I walked
35:00
him back. When I returned, I laid down on the
35:03
couch and stared at the closed curtains. There
35:06
was a light outside the window, so whenever somebody
35:08
passed by, their silhouette would show through.
35:11
As I lay there, I kept hearing what sounded like
35:14
heavy wing flapping outside. I did not think
35:16
much of it at first. I put on my earphones and
35:19
listened to my iPod, still staring at the curtains
35:22
out of boredom. Then I saw something that stopped
35:24
me cold. A huge bird flew past the window right
35:28
in front of me and turned into a woman. She stood
35:31
there as if she knew I could see her. She did
35:34
not speak, she just stood there for a moment
35:36
then walked away. I could hear her footsteps
35:39
fading into the empty stairwell outside my apartment.
35:42
I kept that to myself for a long time because
35:44
I did not want anyone to think I had lost my
35:46
mind. Three days before we moved out I saw an
35:50
owl perched on the trees outside my window. I
35:52
tried not to focus on it, I just went on with
35:55
my usual night walk. Then the night before we
35:58
left for El Paso it happened again. This time
36:01
I saw the owl transform into a dark -skinned
36:04
woman, but instead of stopping she sprinted away.
36:07
It looked like she was running from something
36:09
or as if she was terrified and trying to escape
36:12
danger. I never went outside to investigate,
36:15
I was just a little kid and scared out of my
36:17
mind. About four months after we moved, my mother
36:20
called us into the living room to talk. That
36:23
conversation gave me my sanity back. I finally
36:26
knew I was not crazy. My mother, my brother,
36:29
and I all saw the same thing, only at different
36:31
times and in different places. My brother said
36:34
that while walking home from a friend's house,
36:36
he saw an owl turn into a woman and run off into
36:39
a field. My mother said she had experienced it
36:42
several times when coming home from late night
36:44
shifts. Sometimes she saw it at a distance and
36:47
other times only a few feet away. I still want
36:49
to know what we saw. I want to know whether anyone
36:52
else had encounters involving owls like this
36:54
and whether there are folktales or legends that
36:56
might explain it. I mean he could have opened
36:58
a new tab and done it himself. So long then comments
37:02
here are the closest parallels I found that are
37:04
worth noting in this blog entry. Number one Borderland
37:08
Lechuza tradition. La Lichusa is wildly described
37:12
in Tejano and Mexican folklore as a malevolent
37:15
or avenging owl woman, sometimes a witch, sometimes
37:18
a wronged woman, and sometimes a cursed being.
37:22
Modern summaries consistently describe the transformation
37:25
between woman and owl especially at night. Number
37:28
two, window and home proximity motive. PBS's
37:33
transcript specifically mentions stories of large
37:35
owls peeking into bedroom windows and families
37:38
discovering unexplained scratches afterward.
37:41
That window -side behaviour is strikingly close
37:44
to the El Paso report where the witness saw the
37:46
entity directly outside the curtains and heard
37:49
it move into the stairwell, which we saw quite
37:51
a few times in this episode as well. Number three,
37:55
human -faced or human -linked bird reports in
37:57
Texas. The 1975 Robstown flat became linked to
38:01
Lelechusa when reports described a large bird
38:04
with a human face. That matters because the El
38:08
Paso witness did not merely see an owl. He reported
38:10
a transitional form that resolved into a woman.
38:14
Regional precedent exists for witnesses describing
38:16
both bird and human traits in the same encounter.
38:20
4. Owl as an omen in older belief systems. Some
38:24
indigenous Mesoamerican traditions associate
38:28
owls with death, the underworld or urgent supernatural
38:31
warning. That does not mean every owl sighting
38:35
is paranormal, but it does explain why owl encounters
38:38
in the borderlands carry symbolic weight far
38:41
beyond ordinary wildlife observation. That's
38:45
the end of the episode. I did want to point out
38:48
on your thought of the Mothman as well, or it
38:50
was my thought. There was a thought that came
38:52
up in this episode about Mothman. They seem to
38:55
be a part of the Chicago Mothman flap as well.
39:00
People sighting owl -like creatures like this.
39:03
Yeah, and the whole problem becomes it happens
39:06
at night, so it's hard to really differentiate
39:09
the dark flying thing. And the one that we heard
39:12
that was screaming, like a million children,
39:15
that one really was reminiscent of Mothman to
39:18
me, and I could see how they would easily be
39:23
intertwined with one another. They could be potentially
39:26
the same creature, a couple of these. The shapeshifting
39:30
one does seem to be its own thing. but I did
39:33
want to point that out with Mothman because Lon
39:36
has quite a few encounters in the Chicago area
39:39
and I know that Mothman's fairly active around
39:43
there. He likes to hang out there or something.
39:47
Or people are up at night in Chicago. That could
39:49
just be it. That's true. So yeah, that's my owl
39:52
episode. Awesome. And I do think there'll be
39:54
a sequel because I learned a bit about its involvement
39:58
with Sasquatch sightings too. That is very interesting.
40:01
Could be its own thing. That Sasquatch guy has
40:04
a lot going on, I've learned. Because I have
40:06
just recently been reading... And I'm sorry to
40:11
say, I'm gonna have to bleep that. Which is a
40:16
good book. And with that, I have been Taylor,
40:19
here with Chelsea. We are Journey to the Fringe.
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