Latest / Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast / PODCAST: Episode 729 - Steve Tulipana of Season to Risk Talks "1800-Meldown" and Changes In The Music Industry

Transcript

PODCAST: Episode 729 - Steve Tulipana of Season to Risk Talks "1800-Meldown" and Changes In The Music Industry · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

• 0:00
  I think for this, I feel the first time that we're kind of
• 0:02
  like, I feel like the shattering, if it came out right
• 0:05
  now, would be very relative and irrelevant.
• 0:08
  And I think this kind of takes takes it to a different space,
• 0:12
  but it still has a continuation of that.
• 0:14
  You know, I can't believe that was already 20 years ago.
• 0:17
  So that's kind of breaks my brain.
• 0:18
  Or 25 years ago. I keep it real whenever
• 0:27
  possible. Back to my East Coast roots.
• 0:30
  What's up everybodyitskefi@coastcultmag.com
• 0:33
  I'm so stoked for the first time ever to be joined by Steve of
• 0:37
  Season to Risk. How are you?
• 0:39
  Very good, thanks for having me. Yeah, the a band that I saw like
• 0:42
  30 years ago in the clubs in New York City that I was always so
• 0:46
  high on and excited and was probably the perfect world
• 0:50
  record, right? In a perfect world, you know,
• 0:53
  always been a fan and brand new record is out now, which I love
• 0:57
  and we'll talk about in a second.
• 0:58
  Just catch us up on the last few years of the band.
• 1:01
  It's been a bit of a you know, a roller coaster in general,
• 1:04
  right? Yeah.
• 1:05
  I mean, in the 90s we did those two Columbia records and we
• 1:09
  toured constantly and then we put out a couple independent
• 1:14
  records on a couple different labels and toured as much as we
• 1:18
  could. But at that point, you know, we
• 1:19
  were all starting to work jobs more and try to figure out what,
• 1:23
  you know, with what our life looked like it in middle age, I
• 1:26
  guess. And but every year we, we, we
• 1:30
  kind of all drifted across the country, but every year we'd
• 1:33
  always get together and do either a local show here in
• 1:36
  Kansas City or to do a rundown to Texas or Minneapolis or like
• 1:41
  kind of pretty much in this in the Midwest, We hadn't gotten
• 1:44
  out to either the coast in a long, long time.
• 1:46
  And I just think we've been reissuing our records going
• 1:51
  backwards in reverse on vinyl. And it kind of was getting
• 1:54
  exciting and, and we started getting together and, and
• 1:58
  writing some stuff in the studio at Dwayne's Dwayne, our guitar
• 2:01
  players recording studio. And things are kind of coming
• 2:04
  together and we're like, you know what, time is ticking.
• 2:07
  Let's, let's, let's do something new, you know, so, So what we've
• 2:12
  just released is some new material, but it is a collection
• 2:15
  of some rarities and it's kind of a precursor to what what will
• 2:19
  be coming over the next year. So.
• 2:21
  Amazing. I'm so pumped.
• 2:22
  You have no, like, I can't contain it.
• 2:25
  I'm so pumped. We're proud of it.
• 2:26
  Thank you. I'm not, you know, we're not
• 2:28
  supposed to have favorites as journalists.
• 2:30
  But like, when a band you have liked for a long time or loved,
• 2:34
  like, starts getting active again, it just does something to
• 2:37
  me. Yeah.
• 2:37
  Out of curiosity, because you guys signed to Columbia early
• 2:40
  and I don't know the prehistory of the band.
• 2:43
  I know there were some other local bands you guys kind of
• 2:45
  melded into. Was it what was the scene, like,
• 2:47
  35 scenes? Yeah.
• 2:49
  Like 1990 is is we long ago. Yeah, we actually started in the
• 2:54
  fall of 89, OK. There was like, you know, there
• 2:58
  was like a punk, post punk, post hardcore scene here.
• 3:02
  We have a pretty, a couple of iconic, you know, all ages
• 3:06
  venues to work that we went to when we were kids.
• 3:09
  And, you know, we got to see Black Flag and we got to, some
• 3:12
  of us got to, I didn't see Dead Kennedys, but some of us did.
• 3:15
  And descendants came through, you know, toxic reasons were a
• 3:19
  big deal, SNFU was a big deal, you know, and then like some of
• 3:23
  the metal crossover stuff, like mind over 4, we started seeing
• 3:26
  some of these, you know, and everybody was constantly.
• 3:31
  We have like a pretty cool art scene here as well.
• 3:34
  And an art school that I think that there's kind of always a
• 3:36
  push to try to be creative and unique and your, you know, take
• 3:40
  your influences and and build something new and unique.
• 3:44
  And Kansas City's always had some weirdo bands like oh gosh,
• 3:47
  mud head and all kinds of weird stuff came out of here that
• 3:51
  inspired us and influenced us. So and close to like we, we
• 3:55
  weren't at that age, we weren't above getting in the van or
• 3:59
  getting in the car and going to Chicago for the then go and
• 4:03
  drive an 8 hour Chicago to see, you know, ministry or whatever
• 4:07
  or, or dickroitson or something and then driving straight back,
• 4:10
  you know. That was the golden age of wax
• 4:13
  tracks and ministry and kind of the, you know, a lot of bands
• 4:16
  coming up in that era. Obviously 9 Inch Nails not too
• 4:19
  far away before the relocation. Uh, what, what was the local
• 4:22
  scene like for you on the way up?
• 4:24
  Because I love the Midwest. I got to spend some time the
• 4:27
  last couple of years in the Midwest, Saint Louis, not KC
• 4:30
  yet, but eventually in Chicago and Midwestern.
• 4:33
  Niceness is definitely a thing. But you know, like I'm biased.
• 4:36
  I have like my New York City bias CBG BS and we had like a an
• 4:41
  embarrassment of riches of places to play and it seemed to
• 4:44
  be part of if you wanted to participate.
• 4:47
  What was it like for you guys? I mean, for us, the dream was
• 4:49
  always to get to Chicago and then to CBG BS, which we
• 4:53
  eventually did, you know, so that we got to play there.
• 4:56
  I don't know, four or five times maybe, maybe more.
• 4:59
  I can't remember, but but you know, not obviously not the
• 5:03
  heyday, but but it's all heyday there, right.
• 5:06
  But here, you know, there was a a little scene like there were
• 5:10
  some bands that we did a lot of stuff with Shiner, Molly
• 5:13
  McGuire, Giants chair Outhouse they were always like kind of
• 5:19
  there was a scene that like I'm just thinking of, I don't know
• 5:22
  off the top of my head. Sin City disciples.
• 5:25
  We would, we would do shows and like, we did this like thing on
• 5:28
  Mondays before we got before we got signed.
• 5:31
  And at this club that was like, you guys can have the club on
• 5:35
  Mondays. You got to bring your own PA and
• 5:37
  you can book whoever you want, you know, and this is a club
• 5:39
  that booked like, I mean, I saw, I saw ministries there.
• 5:43
  I saw Soundgarden and and prong and all kinds of all kinds of
• 5:49
  bands. They're like it hell of you
• 5:51
  know, it was a pretty big club, but it had the room where the
• 5:54
  room was nooked out. Whatever we did these Monday
• 5:55
  nights, we, we logged our PA in there and we, you know, kind of
• 5:58
  tried to help help nurture that scene.
• 6:01
  You know, So I was always, I mean, even before that there was
• 6:04
  like loft parties and underground DIY stuff.
• 6:07
  I mean, we've always, we were always part of all that.
• 6:09
  And, and a lot of those bands got in the van and toured, you
• 6:12
  know, like about the same time we were getting going and got
• 6:15
  out of, got out of the Midwest. But yeah, I don't know.
• 6:18
  I'm, I'm proud to be from here. We are, you know, a lot of those
• 6:21
  guys are still doing stuff too, which I think is pretty cool.
• 6:24
  Yeah, Shiner. Yeah, nice.
• 6:26
  By the way, what year did you get to CVG VS?
• 6:28
  I'm curious. I think I guess it would be 90.
• 6:31
  So you might have, you might have.
• 6:33
  Speaking of Prong, you might have run into Tommy there
• 6:35
  because, Oh yeah, Prong was working for most of the 90s till
• 6:38
  we moved to California. Yeah.
• 6:40
  Our first tour actually outside of the Midwest was with Prong.
• 6:45
  Yeah, we went up to Seattle with them, actually.
• 6:47
  That's awesome. And I saw you guys later, I
• 6:50
  believe, with quicksand on manic compression, I think.
• 6:54
  I don't. Maybe not.
• 6:56
  Don't recall that one, but it's possible that's a lot of the
• 7:00
  blurry. Yeah, so it's at a venue that's
• 7:02
  like an apartment building now in Midtown Manhattan.
• 7:05
  And I've won tickets from a rock radio station.
• 7:08
  That was randomly, I'm pretty sure it was quicksand because I
• 7:11
  remember the contest. But I always, I saw you guys
• 7:14
  live a few times and live is, you know, records are, are
• 7:17
  great. I love you guys live, you know,
• 7:20
  really exhilarating, captivating performances and like really
• 7:24
  engage the crowd, which a lot of people are not good at or didn't
• 7:26
  want to to do in the you know, I don't want to bag on Nirvana,
• 7:29
  but the post Nirvana, I'm a sad rock star kind of look at my
• 7:33
  hands and not look at the crowd thing.
• 7:35
  And y'all were engaging and I love that personally.
• 7:37
  So good times live. Let's talk about 1800 meltdown,
• 7:41
  which I kind of see over your shoulder in the in the
• 7:43
  background and then love. I'm such a nerd and I, I, I, I
• 7:48
  kind of, I didn't get to do like the full record store day this
• 7:51
  year. So I missed out on the, the
• 7:53
  vinyl, but it's so cool. This, this release is great and
• 7:57
  the, and it's so cool to get like what you guys did with the
• 8:00
  packaging. You want to just talk about the
• 8:01
  packaging for a quick second? Yeah, I don't even mind that you
• 8:07
  did that. That's all.
• 8:08
  I love that you have it right there.
• 8:10
  Backwards. Well, I I just got it myself.
• 8:13
  You know, we finished the recording of Echo Chamber, the
• 8:17
  lead track, just in December. And we it was rushed.
• 8:21
  We've been planning it, but we finally got it going.
• 8:23
  But yeah, this is some artwork by a buddy of ours.
• 8:27
  We call him Lug Nut and it is glow in the dark, which I think
• 8:31
  is super cool. Yeah, I, I just love what he did
• 8:34
  with it. And it is like I said it there
• 8:36
  is material that was never. There's a brand new song we just
• 8:41
  finished recording called Echo Chamber that is kind of the
• 8:45
  precursor to all this stuff that we're still working on.
• 8:49
  And then there's a track that came out in 2007 that was on
• 8:54
  like a, a local fanzine CD comp that like it.
• 8:59
  No one has, you know, it's just no access to it.
• 9:02
  And so, and then there's a bunch of outtakes from the men are
• 9:05
  monkeys sessions and a song from the that was on the strange days
• 9:12
  soundtrack, the film Strange days that we were in, but we
• 9:16
  didn't, they cut our song from the, the soundtrack, the the
• 9:20
  released soundtrack. So we put it out on a 7 inch,
• 9:25
  the split 7 inch glazed baby way back in the day, a very small
• 9:27
  run of that. But those are impossible to
• 9:29
  find. So it's kind of collected some
• 9:31
  old things and and then have the the the newer stuff on here and
• 9:36
  just really weird. I'm a vinyl obsessive.
• 9:41
  So really getting to put this stuff on vinyl was kind of the
• 9:44
  next step in the reissues, The Columbia Records.
• 9:49
  We finally got some rights to those and in the next 6 months,
• 9:56
  I guess a little longer than the next nine months, they will be
• 9:59
  coming out on remastered vinyl as well.
• 10:02
  I can't talk too much about that yet because we're still kind of
• 10:06
  solidifying that that. But yeah, that's kind of maybe
• 10:10
  I've rambled too much about the 1800 meltdown.
• 10:12
  Having a meltdown on my own. No, I'm so into it.
• 10:15
  By the way, I'm all over those reissues.
• 10:17
  Whenever they happen, I will gladly take all my money because
• 10:21
  I need them so much in my collection.
• 10:23
  That's my that's really like one of my pinnacle times in the
• 10:26
  world and life and music inform me and inform me.
• 10:30
  And but yeah, man, the new song, I imagine echo chambers like
• 10:33
  maybe a portend of things to come.
• 10:35
  It's it's super cool. I really appreciate that in
• 10:38
  2025, you guys or, you know, late 24, you're writing a new
• 10:43
  song that's kind of got like new new vibes, but also like it's
• 10:47
  still you. I like it.
• 10:48
  Yeah, yeah, we're really, we're stoked on it.
• 10:50
  I mean, I think it, I always felt like we were always a few
• 10:54
  years ahead of ourself and anything that we released.
• 10:57
  And I think for this, I feel the first time that we're kind of
• 11:00
  like, I feel like the shattering, if it came out right
• 11:02
  now, would be very relative and irrelevant.
• 11:06
  And I think this kind of takes takes it to a different space,
• 11:10
  but it still has a continuation of that.
• 11:12
  You know, I can't believe that was already 20 years ago.
• 11:14
  So that's kind of breaks my brain.
• 11:16
  Or 25 years ago, right? Next.
• 11:17
  Year it's 25. Why?
• 11:20
  Where is it going? The time is evaporating.
• 11:23
  It's like living in the casino with no clocks, no daylight.
• 11:26
  I don't know what happened and I think the last few years the
• 11:28
  plague life in America, I think it's just escalating and and
• 11:33
  just the cool, the quickening fiery end.
• 11:36
  I don't know I'm I'm a positive person mostly, but geez, but but
• 11:41
  we need art. We need reactionary, positive,
• 11:44
  angry, strong, beautiful, noisy art right now.
• 11:49
  That's what we need in music. That's what we need in art.
• 11:51
  I love that you're an art person.
• 11:52
  Also. Me too.
• 11:54
  And all my friends are almost all my friends that are not
• 11:56
  musicians or artists, like universally do some kind of
• 11:59
  creative people. And yeah, that's, that's why I
• 12:02
  do what I do. That's why people ask me, why do
• 12:03
  you do this? This is insane.
• 12:05
  You don't have corporate backing.
• 12:06
  Because this is all my life. This is my whole life.
• 12:08
  This is it. That's what I do.
• 12:09
  Out of curiosity, Like, do you feel like so interestingly
• 12:13
  enough, you brought up the soundtracks, right?
• 12:14
  And yeah, Strange Days was a good film.
• 12:17
  Soundtracks were very political and politicized back in the day.
• 12:21
  Like, if you got one, it was awesome.
• 12:23
  If you got a few, it could change your career.
• 12:25
  Right. I remember talking to Stabbing
• 12:27
  Westward Christopher about this, where he's like, for some
• 12:30
  reason, our label pushed to get us on everyone of those
• 12:34
  soundtracks for a long time. And it, you know what?
• 12:36
  It started with Clerks with them.
• 12:38
  Did you see, like, a bump after the movie?
• 12:41
  Because it was, you know, is it not a huge hit?
• 12:43
  But it was, you know, Mana, I think it was a liked movie and
• 12:46
  and A and a probably a decently attended film back then.
• 12:50
  Did you see a bump in your career?
• 12:52
  Did help? There's no streaming back then,
• 12:53
  thankfully. But you know, did you see like
• 12:57
  people like oh, cool, I heard you in the movie.
• 12:59
  Did that happen? Can't remember, you know, like
• 13:02
  it was such a really active time for us.
• 13:04
  We'd spent, we'd spent a whole summer in at BC Studio and in
• 13:10
  Brooklyn working on that material and that's that song
• 13:14
  was recorded there too. That ended up that film.
• 13:16
  And then we left to go to LA to go do that film.
• 13:20
  And then we came back a month later and finished the finished
• 13:24
  the record. Then the record came out and
• 13:27
  then we went. I can't remember if that was
• 13:30
  when we went out with Coc and Monster Magnet or if that was I
• 13:34
  get my timeline all confused. So I don't know.
• 13:37
  It feels like the record finally came out.
• 13:39
  We were working really hard and touring, but then it wasn't that
• 13:45
  long after it came out that Columbia did the big or all of
• 13:48
  the majors did the big drop. Like they just dropped hundreds
• 13:52
  of bands. It just like, and so to me, it,
• 13:55
  it feel like that was at like a height, but it probably was a
• 13:59
  whole year before, you know, like it, it all the movie can't
• 14:03
  movie didn't come out for a year, you know, like, I think it
• 14:06
  kind of didn't really coalesce the, the the right way.
• 14:09
  I think it kind of crossed over right there.
• 14:11
  It's kind of like this is this is happening, you know, and then
• 14:16
  we're like, like, OK, we refigure this, you know, and,
• 14:21
  and we just kept, we just kept doing what we what we did for as
• 14:24
  long as we could afford it really.
• 14:26
  And, and, and then we just all started working, you know,
• 14:29
  started working at clubs and stuff and, and then we, you
• 14:33
  know, put a couple more records out and toured when we could.
• 14:35
  And then, and then Dwayne opened his recording studio and I
• 14:39
  opened a club. And that's kind of what we did
• 14:43
  for the last 20 years, you know, just working here and, and in
• 14:48
  music, but locally, you know, so.
• 14:50
  Right, I definitely saw that Monster Magnet Coc tour also.
• 14:54
  But again, I I made it a point to go and I was out every day at
• 14:58
  one point when I wasn't with my own band, I was out watching
• 15:01
  bands and that was a good time. It was a good time.
• 15:05
  Did did you meet any of the cast on the that was a pretty, if I
• 15:08
  recall, like William Hurt, Jennifer Connelly, Kiefer
• 15:12
  Sutherland, Richard O'Brien. That was a pretty good cast.
• 15:15
  I'm going to correct you. I think you're thinking, what
• 15:17
  movie are you thinking of? Oh, not yet.
• 15:21
  I want to know what movie you're thinking of 'cause I.
• 15:22
  Don't know, maybe I'm thinking of it.
• 15:24
  I'm confused my movies. This was Angela Bassett, Ray Fi.
• 15:27
  Oh, that's right. That's yeah.
• 15:28
  That's a good one though. Yeah.
• 15:29
  Strange things. I've got it.
• 15:30
  She's like in a band and. Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 15:33
  Oh yeah, that's an insane that's like and pre pre pre pre matrix.
• 15:38
  Yeah, dystopian ish future really great story.
• 15:43
  Might have even been like a William Gibson's short story,
• 15:46
  I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know, like what I
• 15:48
  what the? I need more coffee, more coffee,
• 15:55
  more coffee, more coffee. But yeah, I'm so stoked.
• 15:59
  Again, I hope this meltdown record, you know, has done what
• 16:02
  you wanted it to do. It's certainly cool.
• 16:04
  I love the unboxing video. Like I said, the packaging's
• 16:07
  dope. If you want to shoot me your art
• 16:09
  guy, your artist's info will link it in the description as
• 16:13
  well as how to buy the record because we love to promote.
• 16:16
  Everybody's everybody, everybody's little family.
• 16:20
  Yeah. Follow up with me and yeah, you
• 16:22
  know, I, I'm, I'm excited for, for the reissues.
• 16:26
  I'd love to hear new music. You know, and I know you've done
• 16:28
  some sporadic touring. What's, what's the prognosis?
• 16:32
  Do you have anything you can announce for this year?
• 16:34
  Local shows or perhaps tour plans?
• 16:37
  We actually take off next Wednesday for 10 days.
• 16:40
  We'll be at TVI in New York on Oh my the Sunday the 23456
• 16:51
  seventh 27th that sound right Sunday the 27th April, my our
• 16:55
  first time playing in the New York City area in 25 years.
• 17:01
  Like with Season to risk, I I came through there with a
• 17:04
  different band a little bit in the mid the mid 10s.
• 17:09
  It sounds so weird to say it's. So weird.
• 17:12
  But but yeah, we're pretty excited there.
• 17:15
  We're going to do this run and then once we announced the
• 17:19
  reissues on that whole deal, we're kind of working on some
• 17:21
  stuff for the fall. And we're not.
• 17:23
  I mean, we all still are are pretty, a couple of us have
• 17:28
  families and we're all still pretty active with our
• 17:30
  businesses. And so touring has to come when
• 17:34
  when we when it can come, you know, when it coalesces
• 17:37
  properly. But.
• 17:38
  Right on. That's cool.
• 17:39
  I'm so stoked. I got to take a second look at
• 17:41
  those dates and see if I have anybody who can come out because
• 17:43
  we love to cover the tour if possible.
• 17:46
  But if not, we'll catch you on the next one.
• 17:47
  I'd love to see you in person either elsewhere in the country
• 17:50
  or if you get out here to Cali or somewhere within striking
• 17:54
  distance where I can. Get yeah, I didn't.
• 17:56
  I didn't know exactly. I'm in San Francisco.
• 17:57
  I'm originally an East Coast guy.
• 17:59
  I was in New York City, in Boston for 30, fortyish years,
• 18:02
  and then I'm here now. So I think that the plan is to
• 18:05
  try to do. We don't have anything in stone
• 18:08
  yet and we're getting too kind of getting close to being able
• 18:12
  to pull it off like we need to start working on it.
• 18:13
  But West Coast dates in towards the end of the year.
• 18:17
  Yeah, fantastic. We'll be around.
• 18:19
  And just I always like to end these with a wild card question
• 18:22
  and I had a different one in mind.
• 18:23
  But then I saw the pile of vinyl.
• 18:25
  So now I have to ask the question.
• 18:26
  As this fellow vinyl nerd, what is your single most favorite
• 18:30
  vinyl in your collection? Oh God.
• 18:33
  Or your most prized, like, what was the thing you most like?
• 18:36
  You know, what did you beat some kid on eBay for that was like,
• 18:39
  yeah. Oh, man, I, I, I don't know that
• 18:43
  I could say without having to go down to the, to the stacks and
• 18:46
  look, you know, but, but I, I would say I have a funny eBay
• 18:51
  story, though. When I first got on eBay, I
• 18:54
  didn't understand how it worked at all, or I wasn't paying
• 18:57
  attention. And because you said Joy
• 18:59
  Division, it made me think of it.
• 19:01
  Or did you say Joy Division? Did my brain say Joy Division?
• 19:05
  Maybe subconsciously I I was. Getting obsessed with Joy
• 19:10
  Division and I was, I wanted it all on vinyl.
• 19:12
  And so I, I bid on a ton of shit and I ended up with so many
• 19:17
  duplicates and all kinds of pressings of all of like their
• 19:21
  whole catalog and I, I way overspent.
• 19:24
  I didn't, I, I didn't expect to win them all.
• 19:27
  And I pretty much you want everything.
• 19:28
  And then I was like, wait, how? Then I learned how to use eBay
• 19:32
  properly. I'm the guy that accidentally
• 19:35
  pre-orders multiple versions of the same album.
• 19:37
  I don't I do that definitely don't want more than one copy.
• 19:40
  It's abusive and I don't need to do it to my bank account.
• 19:43
  But I definitely have bought like oh why is 2 of these
• 19:46
  showing up? Why did I get a second pressing
• 19:49
  of this? I didn't oh the different color.
• 19:51
  I didn't care about that like and I do care about that, but
• 19:53
  like, why? Like any end?
• 19:56
  Slithered off. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 19:58
  So I'm like, they come. Then I'm like, oh, I have
• 20:00
  birthday presents for everybody. Yes, that's exactly right.
• 20:03
  New Jesus Lizard EP was also a record store day thing for only
• 20:07
  America. And I had some people grousing
• 20:09
  at me over overseas like how dare you get one?
• 20:12
  I love them. I love that they're also back.
• 20:14
  Like that's an era of bans for me that that they're you're part
• 20:17
  of and they're part of and I know there's a lot they'll never
• 20:20
  come back, but I know there's a live Butthole surfers coming
• 20:22
  out. So, you know, nostalgia is a
• 20:24
  very powerful drug, but also, you know, cream rises to the
• 20:28
  top. Great bands are eternal.
• 20:30
  And this has been great to chat with you.
• 20:32
  I I'm such a fan and I'm so excited for the future for you,
• 20:35
  at least, you know, at least the next nine months or more.
• 20:38
  And because who knows? We can't see that far ahead
• 20:41
  after that with this world. But Steve, thank you so much for
• 20:44
  joining us today and sharing your story and and and
• 20:47
  tolerating my my slight fanboying out a little bit.
• 20:51
  I try not to, but sometimes I. Can't.
• 20:53
  I'm stoked to know that there's people out there that give a
• 20:56
  shit so. That's my favorite word or one
• 20:58
  of my three favorite words. Stoked my producer will be
• 21:00
  dismayed that I now got you to use it.
• 21:02
  But thanks again. Shout out to the guys, thank
• 21:05
  them and thank you for 181800 meltdown and thanks for joining
• 21:09
  Ghost Cult. I appreciate you.
• 21:10
  We'll do it again sometime. We appreciate you too.
• 21:12
  Maybe we'll see you in the fall or or winter so.
• 21:15
  Yes, yes, Sir. Take care.
• 21:17
  Have a great day.