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Football at Four: Taking a Look at Eagles Player Props For 2026 · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What does Vegas think of the Eagle skill position players?
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  Speaker 1: Take a look right now. Yesterday we discussed, you know
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  Speaker 1: what we had heard about Jalen Hurts having a really
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  Speaker 1: good tie with Sean Manning. He likes the principles of
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  Speaker 1: this offense. So what will that mean for his status
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  Speaker 1: this season, his stats this season? Let's bring it. Adam
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  Speaker 1: Kaplan from the Inside the BYRDS Podcast. I guess him
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  Speaker 1: and Sean Manning are getting along pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw that report from ESPN, but I
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  Speaker 2: just caution people. They haven't Hurts usn't practiced yet, so
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  Speaker 2: let's just relax. It's good. I mean, what's happening is
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  Speaker 2: they've talked. This is my underting they've talked. Hurts knows
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  Speaker 2: exactly what's coming in terms of schematics, he knows what
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  Speaker 2: it's going to look like, but he'sn't practiced in it yet.
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  Speaker 2: I would go back to two years ago and our
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  Speaker 2: reporter on Kellen Moore, Jalen was really interested, like he
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  Speaker 2: knew that everything was going to change, like he In fact,
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  Speaker 2: he came out with that was a major exaggeration. He
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  Speaker 2: said ninety percent of it was changing, which you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles found that was not They just felt like
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  Speaker 2: that was a little bit of an overstated number percentage.
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  Speaker 2: But look, it sounded great. We sell in training camp
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  Speaker 2: it looked phenomenal. Hurts actually looked good in training camp
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  Speaker 2: with the new scheme with Kellam Moore, the great week
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  Speaker 2: one against the Packers in Brazil Mic and then as
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  Speaker 2: you know, it started against Atlanta and for most of
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  Speaker 2: the season they're past. The game was not very good.
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  Speaker 2: It was majorly disappointing. Yet somehow they won a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. Mike, I'm very bullish on
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  Speaker 2: Manny and everything. I actually talked to a coach who
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  Speaker 2: knows him. He said, if it doesn't work, it's not
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  Speaker 2: because of him. He said, well, because they're not buying
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  Speaker 2: in or they're not understanding what they're expected to do.
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  Speaker 2: This is what the off season practices are for. Then
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  Speaker 2: as we get into training camp, we'll see what it
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  Speaker 2: looks like. But I'm actually optimistic about it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: very intrigued on what could happen here. Let's see what
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  Speaker 1: Vegas thinks, Adam Kaplan. You know at Jalen Hurts has
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  Speaker 1: been at some points. He has been the favorite to
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  Speaker 1: win MVP. He's a couple of years ago, at least
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  Speaker 1: by some sports books, he's been in the top five
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  Speaker 1: area for odds. Where is he sitting at right now?
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  Speaker 2: All right, so as we speak currently, this is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: He's right there exactly the same as bo Nicks. He's
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  Speaker 2: plus thirty five hundred. Jared Goff, who someone says a
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  Speaker 2: better panswer than Hurts, but Hurts might be overall if
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  Speaker 2: you take everything to that counts a better football player.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Goff is plus four thousand. Baker Mayfield plus five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: How about this is ridiculous. This guy might not even start.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Murray's plus five thousand, Like, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the odds make of that. That's the I would think
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  Speaker 2: outs would be ten thousand to win MVP, but no,
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  Speaker 2: they only see this plus five thousand.
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  Speaker 1: So plus thirty five hundred for Hurts. Okay, I think
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  Speaker 1: you could throw a couple bucks there if you're really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking forward to what Seawn Manning can do
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  Speaker 1: to change Jaaling. Let me ask you this before we
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  Speaker 1: move on to what is Jalen Hurts his rushing gonna
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  Speaker 1: look like in this okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I you know, I look for that because it's
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  Speaker 2: not out yet. They don't have that that out yet.
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  Speaker 2: But this is what our understanding was at the time
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  Speaker 2: that Menu was hired. As I told you, Mike, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was probably on with you within a day or
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  Speaker 2: so after he got hired, and I said, look, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a complete West Coast offense. It's nothing
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  Speaker 2: that they've run here. Quarterbacks are going to be under
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  Speaker 2: centered more way more. We don't know. It can't give
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  Speaker 2: you a percentage. You still can't. It's impossible to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to see a slot receiver, which ironically, who
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  Speaker 2: do they they draft Mackay Lemon, and you're gonna see
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  Speaker 2: pre stapp motion a lot more of it. We'll we'll well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, also we'll get a better idea. But in
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  Speaker 2: terms of running, it's a great question. I can't answer that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more he's going to run.
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  Speaker 2: You know, last year was surprising, but they didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Just he's not running as much as we thought he would.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and Jenn and I talked yesterday about how much
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  Speaker 1: more they probably going to go under center a lot
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  Speaker 1: more play action. You wonder how much that, Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of his rushing were off of design runs
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  Speaker 1: or r pos.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, if you might, if you look at just
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  Speaker 2: go back to really twenty twenty two, Mike, in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one off RPOs, especially when Shane Stecken took over,
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  Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, this is what's gonna have to happen
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  Speaker 2: if we're gonna win. And it worked. It worked in
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  Speaker 2: twenty one when he took over. They became a running team.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty two, their passing game was great off of
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  Speaker 2: the run. You know, whether it's Hurts or whoever else
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  Speaker 2: they had in there, it just it works. So in
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  Speaker 2: for fantasy it absolutely impacts it. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: tell you this, Mike, and I know I seem to
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  Speaker 2: be in the minority. As we discussed on our inside
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  Speaker 2: the Burchhoes with Jeff and I is that you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've asked a lot of people around the league, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think? What do you know? And it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of thumbs down. Not on the OC. It's whether
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  Speaker 2: Hurts could be successful in a timing based offense.
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  Speaker 1: Is the RPO gone? And we think we're gonna not
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  Speaker 1: see that.
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  Speaker 2: We might I mean, we might see some of it,
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  Speaker 2: but my see, the thing is we can't put a
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  Speaker 2: percentage on anything because they don't even know they know
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  Speaker 2: they're going to run it. They know they're gonna run
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback under center way more. And look, it's play
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  Speaker 2: action generally, and Greg Costell told us this Greg Greg
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  Speaker 2: Flomas tape study works way better visually when the quarterbacks
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  Speaker 2: under center when they're opposed to when they're on the shotgun.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see what happened to Mike. I just can't
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  Speaker 2: wait because I remember my course of my career whenever
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  Speaker 2: they've changed offenses with this team. When Ship Kelly came in,
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  Speaker 2: seeing the first practices in May in May of thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, wow, this is great. When Doug Petersen
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  Speaker 2: came in, they run what's called a spread West coast,
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  Speaker 2: heavy eleven personnel. That was very interesting. And then with
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Batulo changed obviously, Brian Johnson had a spin on
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  Speaker 2: Serrianna's scheme. With Syrianna, you didn't quite know. But then
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  Speaker 2: then here with Kellen Moore. It's very excited because I
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  Speaker 2: know Kellen will a little bit, so I kind of
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  Speaker 2: knew what he wanted to run and he didn't really
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  Speaker 2: wind up running any We're close overall to what he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to run. But here we go. You got a
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  Speaker 2: young play caller thirty three years old, Mike, He's he's
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  Speaker 2: only been in coaching three years. So this could go
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  Speaker 2: for variety of ways. But I'm choosing the high road.
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  Speaker 2: I might be in the minority, but I just believe
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  Speaker 2: it's actually gonna work.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, I agree with you. I'm well, I'm yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a more fluid offense
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  Speaker 1: than we have seen the last couple of season. Let's
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  Speaker 1: just say that it's been so close.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little different. But you have to have buy in,
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  Speaker 2: and the thing is one thing before we move on
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  Speaker 2: to look these odds. Buying comes with command. That's a
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  Speaker 2: coaching term. We don't know about Sean Manning and the
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  Speaker 2: buy in factor. It all sounds great, Mike. We're in May,
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  Speaker 2: we're not in August. We don't know if you could
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  Speaker 2: connect well enough and get these guys to buy in.
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  Speaker 2: Because remember, it's not Nick Sirianni scheme. Trust me, it
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with Sirianni. It's all about Sean
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  Speaker 2: Manning going forward here, all right.
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  Speaker 1: What about Lemon. All right, he is the first round pick.
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  Speaker 1: People are excited. What does Vegas think about McKay Lemon's
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  Speaker 1: rookie season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, offensive Rookie of the Year plus eleven hundred. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's See. Here's the thing they don't have, well
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  Speaker 2: they actually do. They don't have his reception total out
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get to that in a second. I am
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  Speaker 2: really bullsh of mkaye Lemon because every West Coast offense
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  Speaker 2: features they feature to some extent an inside or a
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  Speaker 2: slot receiver. Mkayle Lemon is going to be the main
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  Speaker 2: slot receiver. In fact, they really have not had a
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  Speaker 2: true slot in years. The s why they drafted mkaye
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  Speaker 2: Lemon for this offense, and he's going to fit in great.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of look, it's going to be hard. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be hard for him to win it. There're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be plenty of other players and we'll talk more
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  Speaker 2: about these. We have plenty of time now in May
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  Speaker 2: and June to talk about the other candidates and we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about we'll talk about the fantasy props too, But
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  Speaker 2: for Lemon finishing him off the over under receiving ards,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny my number Okay, I'm doing some projections would
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  Speaker 2: have been seven hundred. They've got it six fifty point
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  Speaker 2: five the over and the owners minus one ten. So
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  Speaker 2: for every one ten you bet because you have to,
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  Speaker 2: it's the juices. The extra ten bucks you get your
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  Speaker 2: bet back plus one hundred. If you lose, obviously you
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  Speaker 2: lose one hundred and ten dollars. I kind of like
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  Speaker 2: the over, I'm see. The thing is like, I can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to see what they have for hurts, for passing
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  Speaker 2: tempts per game. They probably won't have that for a while.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, is he Is he going to be over thirty? No?
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  Speaker 2: But I got a thick in the high twenties. I
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  Speaker 2: just can't. I The other thing is, Mike, will they
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  Speaker 2: ever be a great running team again after what happened
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  Speaker 2: last year?
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  Speaker 1: Well let's do what Vegas things on that coming up here,
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  Speaker 1: Goon Barkley, what is the rushing yard over under?
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  Speaker 2: I love this Over two years ago. I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: It actually hit like nine games in. I justticularly remember
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  Speaker 2: talking to Scott Farrell in Sports Grid. We were going
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  Speaker 2: to all the fantasy props. That was my number one
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  Speaker 2: favorite one. Last year, I I was wrong. Who could
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  Speaker 2: have seen what happened. This is the This is when
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  Speaker 2: we say it's a year to year league. Mike, Who
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  Speaker 2: could have thought the Eagles had the worst run blocking
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  Speaker 2: O line in the National Football League? I just it
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  Speaker 2: could have made that up. They had the best year before.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I did we know they break down
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  Speaker 2: physically like they did. No way to know that. But
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  Speaker 2: so the over undertotal is eleven hundred point five. I
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  Speaker 2: see fourteen there. It's going to start with a run.
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  Speaker 2: That's my understanding. It's not going to change. How could
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  Speaker 2: they be worse, Mike than last year? How could they
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  Speaker 2: possibly be worse running football?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you could be worse. And you're hoping
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  Speaker 1: that your offensive line is healthier?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, healthier? Right, I agree, it's got to be healthier.
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  Speaker 2: How could think about it? Lane Johnson Okay hurt for
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  Speaker 2: a big portion of the season, Landon Dickerson hurt the
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  Speaker 2: entire season. Cam Jurgen's hurt the entire season. How could
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  Speaker 2: they be any worse physically?
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  Speaker 1: I hope not because that would be a brutal situation. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you can't if they offen
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  Speaker 1: the line is what it was last year? We will
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  Speaker 1: be having some interesting conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Will not be good. He's good for anyone.
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  Speaker 1: Right, let's go to the Offensive Player of the year,
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  Speaker 1: because this throws in everybody.
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  Speaker 2: All right, hurts plus eight thousand. Remember as the MVP,
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  Speaker 2: it's different. MVP is the most valuable player to his team.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year is more of a stats
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  Speaker 2: oriented deal, and it hurts his plus eight thousand. Barkley,
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  Speaker 2: this is interesting, Mike, He's only plus fifteen hundred. Now again,
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  Speaker 2: it is stat oriented for Barklay. Look, if he goes
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  Speaker 2: for eighteen hundred tough two thousand yards, he's not hitting
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  Speaker 2: two thousand yards, No chance it happens. But well, let's
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  Speaker 2: say he goes sivteen hundred yards. He's in the conversation
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  Speaker 2: for Offensive Player of the Year. Now, this one's comical
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  Speaker 2: because he's gone to He's going to New England. AJ Brown, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's going to happen. Okay, that's my understanding is that's
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  Speaker 2: the way that Patriots are operating. AJ believes he's gone,
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  Speaker 2: as I understand it, so buying a surprise, a shock,
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be a Patriot. Well, are the odds
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  Speaker 2: makers not buying into that? Because he's plus five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Now if by a minor miracle he's back with the Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: there are too many mouths defeat in the pass can
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  Speaker 2: I don't see how it will work. But with the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots he'd be their number one past target. So I'll
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  Speaker 2: be very interesting to see on June second, when this
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  Speaker 2: trade should go down. Does it go down to plus
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  Speaker 2: three thousand plus four thousand, We'll see. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: DeVante Smith, who will lead them in pass targets plus
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  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand to be Offensive Player of the Year. He's
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  Speaker 2: so grit. Why does he not get the national recognition?
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  Speaker 2: Devanteah never understand me.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe this will be the year when he's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the guy by himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, fairpoint, fairpoint. And then finally Defensive Player of
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  Speaker 2: the Year. Now Jon Carter is coming off of two
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  Speaker 2: bad shoulders. He's plus twenty five hundred for DPOY. This
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  Speaker 2: one's fascinating. This one I would take Mike. I'll put
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  Speaker 2: down a hundred bucks and get sixty six hundred back.
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  Speaker 2: Cooper jjeen plus sixty six hundred. He's so special in
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  Speaker 2: his role. Mic. You know what the word has gotten out.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a seagull fans or the reporters locally. It's
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  Speaker 2: got around around the league. How special this kid is
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  Speaker 2: as a super freak athlete. Why not? And then this
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  Speaker 2: other guy. You'll hear us talk about this tomorrow. We
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  Speaker 2: drop our inside backer, as Vic Fangio calls him. He
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  Speaker 2: refused to call. He refuses to call him off the
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  Speaker 2: ball linebackers. He refuses to call a nickel defender a
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  Speaker 2: nickel corner. He will not call him that. He calls
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  Speaker 2: him nickel. It took me like a year and a
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  Speaker 2: half to finally give in and call him just Nichols.
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  Speaker 2: But Zach Bonn is plus twelve twelve five hundred mike
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  Speaker 2: way more of a long shot. He's another one where
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  Speaker 2: people just the league doesn't like. If you talk to
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  Speaker 2: coaches around the league that they buy in and personnal
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  Speaker 2: people that go, he's really a good football player. But
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  Speaker 2: the national media doesn't really follows that bond. It seems, yeah, he.
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  Speaker 1: Was, you know in that conversation a couple of years ago. Uh, dies,
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  Speaker 1: he will be the interesting one, yeah, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you know obviously he's I'm assuming he will be there there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they don't like to call him Nickel, but he'll be
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  Speaker 1: the inside slot.
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  Speaker 2: Corner is nickel. They call him nickel, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't call him corner. It's slot. I think Vic
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  Speaker 2: did once. I do distinctly remember him saying slot. He's
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  Speaker 2: only said at once. He calls him nickel. It's just
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  Speaker 2: really funny. He's so old school. It will But but
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  Speaker 2: to his point, though, if you look at the personnel
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  Speaker 2: usage right, the way that he uses him, and he's
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  Speaker 2: really what personal people call it, dynamics, dynamic slot, the
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  Speaker 2: most athletics nicol slash slot defender in the league. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't say corner. Vic refuses to call him that because
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  Speaker 2: what he says is Corner is an outside player. That's it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and Nickel is an inside player, though you move him around.
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  Speaker 2: See this is where I don't agree with Fangio. He's
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  Speaker 2: a coverage player. He's moved around for coverage purposes. VIC
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  Speaker 2: won't acknowledge that, but he knows that better than anyone listening.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit surprised he says that. But hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's all good.
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  Speaker 1: But he's not a safety. No.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny, Mike, they're not. Their plans
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  Speaker 2: were not to play him there, but if they don't
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  Speaker 2: get that safety by the end of their offseason program,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the mandatory camp, I'm not rolling
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  Speaker 2: anything out. At least see some snaps there. Maybe crosstream
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. They cross tream. They haven't played with
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  Speaker 2: Nickel yet. They haven't even they haven't even trained him there.
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  Speaker 2: Michael Carter is the guy we we nailed, you know.
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  Speaker 2: We said when they trade it for him, he's going
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  Speaker 2: to get crosstrated safety. People thought we were crazy. He
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  Speaker 2: wound up doing that. Michael Carter is their in house
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  Speaker 2: candidate to play safety for the start. I'ms Macoba, but
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  Speaker 2: they got a long waves to go. I put that
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  Speaker 2: in pencils certainly all right.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Adam.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks