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Seven Spirits Burning / Agabas · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Top Top got hello once again the Black Sheep podcast. We have we have
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  a fun guest. Uh from across the pond, as one might say.
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  He is over in the Netherlands, and uh, this is Levi from Seven
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  Spirits Burning, great little band that is that's picking up some fun steam recently,
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  and uh, we know it's funny. Mason and I met Levi at
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  Furnace Fest last year. And when I when I first met Levi, I
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  did not think I could tell he was a metal head. I could tell
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  that he was a fan, because you know, he was doing all the
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  things in the pit, but I did not know that he was such a
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  virtuosic singer and an incredible band member. So Levi, how you doing man,
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  Hey guys, I'm doing great right here in the Netherlands, across the
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  ocean. Yeah. Are you fighting any any windmills recently? No? Not
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  not no, not not fighting them, but they're everywhere. I just a
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  few hours ago, I was in the car with my daughter. She's she's
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  two and a half years old, and she is now picking up on the
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  concept of windmills. So she is. So we sat in a car and
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  she's ever so every around every corner, She's like, oh, there's a
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  windmill, Papa, there's a windmill. There's two windmills. There's three windmills.
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  There's a windmill. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, so yeah,
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  she's into that. That's like an American having their first McDonald's or something.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like a good analogy. Yes, yeah,
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  yeah, Well, am I putting two and two together. So Colin is
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  Levi the person that recognized you when he first got to Furnace Fest last year?
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  Yeah, yeah, so Levi. Colin keeps telling me this story because
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  it's like the first time in his life he felt famous and and so I
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  just remember, like it was like right at the beginning of the festival and
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  he like comes up to me and he says, Mason, I just got
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  recognized, Like this is so weird. Yeah you just just so you know,
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  like Colin is still riding that way of that oh yeah yeah, yeah.
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  He got one moment of recognition from two people from from the other side
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  of the world, and now he's still riding dead ocean. That's right that
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  way, yeah yeah. Yeah. If it was a fellow American, I
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  be like, all right, that was cool. But the fact that you're
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  from the Netherlands. The fred that you are are listening to the Black Shoot
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  podcast and it makes me oh yes, yes, yeah, you actually have
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  listeners across the globe. Yeah. Yeah, I was with my brother like
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  then, Jonathan. He is also in seventh Spirits Burning. He's the guitar
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  player, one of the guitar players. So yeah, we recognized you,
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  and uh yeah it was. It was very nice nice to talk to you
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  and also noticing that we I think we were like at almost every set,
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  yeah, the two of us. Yeah, yeah, it's true. I
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  mean I think every show that that I went to, almost every show that
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  I went to, you were also at. Yeah. My favorite moment with
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  you was when we were rowing the boat. Yeah that was that was blast.
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  Yeah that was was that you that started that LEVI I didn't start it.
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  No, no, I didn't start it, but it was it was
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  a cool moment in the pit was like it was by the way, it
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  was like, I don't know if there were other people from outside of the
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  United States at Furnace Fest last year, you say they were oh yeah,
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  okay cool. Yeah, so I we spoke to a lot of people and
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  so what what what happens all the time is that they were asking like,
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  where are you from, probably expecting that I would say some states, and
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  then we said, no, we're from the Netherlands. Wait what, You're
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  from the Netherlands. No you're joking. No, no, really, we're
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  from the Netherlands. Yeah. People couldn't believe it. That's how dedicated you
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  are to see for insst. Are you planning on being at Furnest this year?
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  I'm not sure. I you could just like jump on the plane with
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  Blindside. Oh yeah, it's just like out on the wing or whatever of
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  the plane and just you know, eventually you'll land. But you know,
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  I'm sure Blindside will be coming through the Netherlands from Sweden to uh yeah,
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  I think they Yes, they might. Yeah, yeah, they they are
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  and they are awesome. They are an awesome band that I have never seen
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  before, even though I living I live in Europe, so it's it's crazy
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  that they're that they're coming. They were there, they were there two years
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  ago, years ago. Yeah. So so the difference between last year in
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  this year is that last year, the most of the bands that I wanted
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  to see in the lineup they never come to Europe, like bands like Relying
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  Hey Zo, Yeah, all all these kinds of applea for purging uh,
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  to name a few, they never come to Europe. So my brother and
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  I were like, if we want to see all those bands for once in
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  our life, then we should go to that best moment or we will never
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  see them again. And this next year, I think the lineup is still
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  great, a lot of awesome bands, but I have to say that like
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  many of those bands that I really love, they come to Europe very often.
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  So for instance like under Oath and and Silent Planet, the Devil wors
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  Prada, to name a few. They are amazing ox bresse Rett of course,
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  but I I am seeing them this year in the Netherlands, so so
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  that's that's that's so, that's yeah, So it's kind of it kind of
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  makes sense for me to to uh to stay in the Netherlands this time.
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  But I don't know if they're still names being added to the lineup or if
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  this the whole thing. I I know that they usually throughout the year day
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  here and their day, they add a name or two. But right,
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  yeah, I think they just added Dogwood. Just yeah, they just added
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  dog with you. I saw that. Yeah, yeah, So what I'm
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  hearing is that Colin and I are not enough for you to to come back
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  to us. That's that's what I'm hearing. No, No, that's a
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  that's why we're having this conversation, conversation this podcast like that that that one
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  time with you guys was awesome, but for further contact, we should do
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  do a podcast episode. Yeah, so that's right. You know, before
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  we start talking about Seven Spirits, Berniinge, I, I do have to
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  say it does kind of feel a little interesting to talk to somebody from the
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  Netherlands because I have like a very Dutch last name uh and I've got a
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  little bit of Dutch in me uh and I and I used to live in
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  a very Dutch part of America. There's a lot of Dutch immigrants came to
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  a part of Iowa that I went to college at. It was literally have
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  something called the Tulip Festival. So yeah, we literally have the Tulip Festival
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  and they where I went to college, and so uh, you know,
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  I feel like, you know, I feel like you're my people. Oh
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  I'm speaking to my people right now talking with you. Just with the little
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  bit of Dutch I got in me and and a little bit of the experience
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  I had being in Dutch culture in at least American Dutch culture. In Iowa.
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  Oh that sounds great. Yeah. The city hall in Orange City,
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  Iowa literally is a windmill. Like it's just is a windmill. Yeah.
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  Yeah. It seems that that that the features that you mentioned, like wind
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  mills and tulips are those those prototypical Dutch cultural features that are then like emphasized
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  on to to show some relatedness. It's interesting. It's interesting. I'm not
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  saying that it is not typically Dutch. It is, but I mean it's
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  it's it's not as if we are I mean, for the windmills, there
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  are a lot of windmills in here, but but I don't see tulips that
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  often. But really no, yeah, yeah, but if you go to
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  Amsterdam, for instance, there is they really exploit the whole in the city
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  of Amsterdam, the concepts of tulips and windmills are exploited to the max for
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  tourism. So sure everywhere there. Yeah, probably in the same way that
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  you like, when you think of Americans or you know, the way that
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  Americans think about the Netherlands, you know, they think about tulips and windmills.
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  You guys in the Netherlands probably think about Americans in terms of like obesity
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  and guns. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're, you're,
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  you're on the point, yes, which is funny because they're around, but
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  it's not generally the thing I think of when I think of America. No,
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  yea, just like you're just like you're talking. Yes, that that's
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  interesting. Yeah yeah yeah so the yeah yeah, yeah, I think exactly.
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  Those are two concepts that are being addressed a lot, or I think
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  mapped onto American cultural identity a lot by people who are not in the United
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  States or from the United States for sure. Yes, yes, well,
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  let me take it one step further than okay, all right, what I
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  think of first and foremost actually when it comes to Dutch people is I think
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  of the red light district. That's not what I was going to say.
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  I was going to say very large humans. First of all, for some
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  reason, Yes, you're very tall, we are. Yeah, yeah.
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  The thing was, yeah, I mean, it's like every defensive player in
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  the Premier League, for instance, duche. It seems like the other thing
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  I was gonna say is insanely good engineers, because I mean, you guys
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  have like some of the coolest roads and bridges, and you guys basically have
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  like created double the size of your country by adding polders and all that stuff.
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  Yeah, dykes and all that. It's cool to me. I I
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  really enjoy that kind of stuff. But that's what I think of when I
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  think of Yeah yeah, personally yeah, yeah, A lot of a lot
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  of interesting typical concepts. Uh yeah are coming across here. Yeah, yes,
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  that's true. Uh, we are very tall people. I think when
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  when we met you in at Furnace Fest, Jonathan was also there. He's
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  taller than I am. Probably remember that. Yeah, and yeah, we
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  we built part of the count We I'm saying we, but I wasn't there
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  when it was built. But that but that's how that's how, that's how
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  cultural identity goes. So almost I'm saying we already we are tall people.
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  We build this up part of this country. We have all these nice roads.
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  It is I think it's also like for with respect to them, the
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  the nice roads and building and bridges. I think it's also a text thing
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  that a lot of texts is going there. Mmm. And but it's true
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  when when I go when I'm on a holiday, uh in uh in the
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  in Germany, or in Belgium or in France. Then then as soon as
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  I cross the border, no offense to those countries, but to their buildings
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  and bridges and roads. But as soon as you ever, every Dutch person
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  who listens to this will recognize this. As soon as you cross the border
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  in your car, all of a sudden, the roads are full of cracks.
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  Don't know the Germans because they're gonna start World War three. Yeah,
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  well, we didn't bring you on to talk about the Netherlands the entire time.
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  Uh, you know, but there is one thing I don't know any
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  other Uch metal bands. I don't know if I know of another Dutch band
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  that I mean that's really like permeated into the United States. So you guys
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  are you guys are breaking the mold a little bit. Seven Spirits Burning is
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  the only Dutch band I can think of off the top of my head that
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  I'm aware of it that that's you know, that's in my life. So
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  what's the scene like there and how has it been kind of breaking into that
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  scene in the Netherlands. You're talking about the metal scene in general. Yeah,
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  I'll stark metal scene in general. Okay, So I think, so
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  you have the nether you have Europe, and you have the Netherlands. And
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  I think that in Europe there are a lot of countries that are into metal.
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  I think, uh, countries like like Germany, like Sweden, Norway,
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  Finland, they are really into metal. I think they are more into
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  genres like black metal and death metal than metalcore. Metal core is really an
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  American genre, although there are bands in Europe that played and there is a
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  there is a crowd for it, there's a there are people who love it.
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  In the Netherlands, I think there's not that much love for metal.
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  So I'm I feel like I am in the wrong place really, But even
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  because I am playing I I love metal and I play metal, but I
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  also love and play metal core and metal core. If you for metal core,
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  I think I really should have been in the United States. But we
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  are like treading those waters now so with with the music. But so unfortunately
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  in the Netherlands, Uh, there's another I think there's not a really big
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  metal core scene or metal scene. Although I mean, if you have the
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  the you the the biggest metal core bands, I mean the Ghost Inside for
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  instance, or what do we see I saw the devors Prada a few weeks
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  ago. Those bands are sold out, those venues are sold out. So
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  there is a crowd, but I think it's not as big as as as
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  in different in other countries. I think it's also less than it used to
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  be. So you know, it went from in around two thousand and two
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  to twenty ten. There was of course this big wave of metalcore in the
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  United States, with big bands like es La, Dying a Day to Remember
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  an under Oath, and I think that whatever what is popular in the in
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  the United States, at some points, if there's a big wave of something,
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  it also hits other contents, like yeah, it also it also trickled,
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  it hits Europe. So at that time I think metal core was also
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  way more popular in the Netherlands. But in the Netherlands then in the United
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  States. But in the Netherlands it's it's at some point I think it became
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  less and less and I think there are still a big crowd, but it's
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  relatively big. I think, yeah, yeah, So how's it been for
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  you trying to navigate those kind of waters of maybe not like the like the
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  greatest support for a metal scene in your country. The hard thing for us
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  as a band is not only the music but our identity. So we are
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  a Christian band, and I think many people who like metal in the Netherlands
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  do not really like to listen to Christian metal, or they are listening to
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  Christian metal, but they don't know it because the band is not dead outspoken
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  about it. You know how it goes? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  yeah, I meet the I meet these people who love metal, and they
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  say and they they they name a lot of bands and they don't even know
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  that they are Christian bands or they were a Christian's up until some point,
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  and then I when I pointed out, they were like, what the fuck
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  really? But so we are in a we we are in a position that
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  people who might like our music might not like our identity, and people who
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  are Christian might not like the music. So that's that's it's a little bit
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  hard for us to sort of position ourselves. So what we eventually decided to
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  do for this, for the album that we that we that we released last
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  week and the video clips and everything the p are around it, we just
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  decided not to care and just do what we wanted to do and see who
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  wanted to listen, who who who wanted to pick up on it, and
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  not really think about what our audience should we target, because yeah, I
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  think with with with the the message that we have and the music that we
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  have, it's a it's it's hard to please any target any odd and so
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  we just decided to not care and and just do what we want to do
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  and see if people want to listen. Sure, yeah, that makes kind
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  of a long end, kind of a long answer, but I think it
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  makes sense. I mean, that's all you can do, right, Yeah,
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  you just stay in the course and you're you're hoping that it that it,
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  that it picks up. If not in the Netherlands, maybe elsewhere,
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  right yeah, sure, States, and then you have to move to the
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  United States and live here and do all your your stuff here, that'd be
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  that'd be even better for us. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I will
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  say that we event we did decide not to target the Netherlands in the first
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  place. We wanted to target different countries because of this reason, because of
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  like because of the level of popularity in the Netherlands that's kind of low.
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  So we did as we decided to target non none Dutch audience, and we
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  also decided to not tap into the Christian scene. We decided to tap into
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  the secular scene with the idea like if they like it, then eventually the
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  people, the Christians, they will they will tap in as well. Sure.
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  Yeah, it's a good call. Yeah. So this is your guys'
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  first full length, right yeah? Yeah? So what has just been like
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  that whole process like for yeah, just like recording probably for obviously you guys
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  have had like some singles over the last year or so, But Yo,
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  what was like kind of the recording process to create an entire album because I
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  think it's like over forty minutes long versus just like you know, making some
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  singles, Like, Yo, what's that writing, recording producing process like for
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  you guys? Yeah, for us, it's been a pretty wild experience,
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  both positively and negatively. So with respect to the writing process, we had
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  certain songs that we that we set on for a few years, and there
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  are songs that my brother and I wrote the basics on like in a few
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  nights, and then we just came together and made it more of a thing
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  that am that uh, made it more of a thing from the whole band,
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  so that the whole that it would represent all of what all of us
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  and everyone could bring something to the table, but that's that's it. So
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  we we have these songs that we write in when we're together in a practice
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  session, or we we have a yearly weekend that we just go away for
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  the weekend and we, uh we just write the whole weekend. That's where
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  the longer songs come from. And then there are like shorter songs that are
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  more i think more hardcore punk or those are songs that Jonathan and I wrote
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  the basics on. Like we live very close together, so my my brother
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  lives like a few streets away. So we had those nights where we just
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  came together. We were like, let's like write like a very fast paced
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  hardcore punk song or like a fast based metal cores song, and then he
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  would have some riffs and then we would just do it in a few nights
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  and yeah, So that's the that's like the way we we roll with it.
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  The whole recording process, it took years because we are it's it's like
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  a it's it's for us. It's just a hobby to have this band,
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  and we when we started to uh come, when we came to the point
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  of recording this album, it's you you're just learning how to do it while
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  you're doing it. So uh, And we recorded everything ourselves and then a
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  producer mixed it and mastered it. So the mix was done here in Well,
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  there's actually actually two different people. So a rule of club is a
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  he is a producer of only metal bands and lives in the Netherlands, and
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  he mixed our album. And then there's a producer whose name I cannot recall
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  right now, but that producer is from the United States and he did the
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  master on the album. So but we had to record it all. I
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  mean, we we chose to do it, but we learned, we learned
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  doing it along the way. So it took a long time just to figure
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  everything out. We have a few band members like I seem to mention him
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  a lot, but Jonathan is also very good. He had a he did
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  a study for sound technician, so he he had the basics, basic skills
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  to do it. But still it was a was a really learning process and
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  it took a while. And then at some point right we started doing this
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  and then COVID happened, so then we were not allowed to uh to uh
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  to practice anymore. Uh, so we hardly did that, and then there's
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  this whole thing with people are having kids and being out of the running and
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  it's very very regular life stuff that happens. Yeah, so that took a
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  long time, but now finally we are here. And also I have to
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  say, because we we wanted to shoot a lot of music videos for this
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  album, because we wanted to. We wanted to. We took so much
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  time in recording it, and we were so proud of it that we were
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  like we should do everything we can to represent it the best way possible.
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  So we so we planned to record a few videos, a few videos,
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  a lot of videos, and that also took a lot of time to record
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  them. Because especially the latest one that came out like last week, I
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  don't know if you saw it, for Killed the Messenger, that is that
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  is an incredible music video. I cannot believe the quality of production there.
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  Yeah, it's amazing. These these guys who record we recorded it with a
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  Pull, that's the name of the of the crew. And these guys gave
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  it their all and they spent all their time and energy to make like the
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  best thing possible. It's amazing, it's insane. Then, was the concept
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  kind of your idea or like like the like the spacesuit and the and the
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  bones and the desert kind of atmosphere. Was that your idea? No,
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  No, it was totally completely their idea. Yeah. They they just looked
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  at the lyrics and they did some interpreting and they come up with the concept
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  I get such a two thousand and one spa. Oh yeah, that's yeah.
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  Well their their name there, the crew name is so yeah, it's
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  yeah. But but but if you saw the video, then you know that
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  there are a few shots of the guitarists playing outside and there was like some
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  there was not cloudy at all. But it took months to get those shots
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  done because that is also a typically Dutch thing, it's always raining, so
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  we had to postponed the recording day for that for those shots like like three
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  or four times. Oh geez. That's so we were like sitting on this
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  album like for like like almost a year because of those kind of those kind
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  of issues. So we're so extremely relieved that now it's finally out. Yeah.
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  Yeah. One of the things that's like super impressive to me is even
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  though you guys are a new band, your voice is just fantastic. Yeah,
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  it's kind of hard to believe that, Like, here's this band in
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  in the Netherlands. You guys are just like recording, you know, just
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  had your first album, and it's like, how has this voice not been
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  out in the world yet in other bands. It's just like it blows my
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  mind. Your voice is so freaking good, and it feels like I'm like
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  sort of losing years just by like not knowing that it has existed. You're
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  you're like, you are fantastic at at metalcore. Like I just can't believe
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  you haven't been in other metalcore bands that have like made it really big.
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  Yeah. Wow, what I have to say? Thank you? Yeah,
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  thank you for that. Yes yeah, well I mean that that goes for
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  the rest of the band though, too. You guys have I mean,
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  you're the people that play with you are extremely tight musicians. I mean they
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  they know exactly what they're doing and you can tell, and they've got the
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  chops to back it up. You guys don't sound like a band that doesn't
• 25:30
  have a lot of experience. You guys sound like a band that's been doing
• 25:33
  it for years and years and years. I'm thoroughly impressed. Thoroughly impressed.
• 25:38
  Oh thank you. Thank you, guys, it's so nice to hear.
• 25:44
  Yeah, that's a it's well yeah, well, as I said before,
• 25:48
  we decided to write and record and promote it the way the way we want
• 25:56
  it whoever wants to listen. So the fact that you are saying this now,
• 26:00
  that you picked up on it, and that you that you're giving it
• 26:03
  this praise, it means a lot. It really means a lot because you
• 26:07
  actually care. So yeah, yeah, no, we we truly do care.
• 26:11
  And yeah, I can say that to the next degree because I'll be
• 26:15
  honest. We've had people that we've met out there in the world and they're
• 26:19
  like, hey, I'm also in a band, would you mind promoting us?
• 26:22
  And I would say nine times out of ten, Mason and I go,
• 26:27
  sorry, it's not really our thing, it's not really what we're We
• 26:30
  don't really enjoy that what you're doing. You know, you're a good person,
• 26:34
  but we don't really enjoy this music. And we only will really give
• 26:38
  a chance on here to people that we really think their music is worth promoting
• 26:45
  and showing to the world. So when we say that we do truly care,
• 26:49
  you are more than deserving of getting some recognition for how good. You
• 26:55
  guys sound wow and you met the very stre Blackshet podcast betting process. We
• 27:03
  made it out on the other end, Oh wow, made it all the
• 27:07
  way at the other end. Wow. I'm I'm honored. I'm super honored
• 27:11
  also because you know, as we we we talked about before, I am
• 27:15
  a listener of this podcast, like for years, My brother and I have
• 27:18
  been listening to you guys for years. So it makes it even more of
• 27:21
  an honor for me to be here with you guys and talk about music and
• 27:25
  faith. Yeah, well thanks for thanks for making good music. That's what
• 27:30
  where where does a couple of schmucks? Yeah? Yeah, so uh yeah,
• 27:37
  So there was a time where you did a podcast and you didn't have
• 27:41
  a video, right, so you just you were on Spotify, So I
• 27:44
  have to so I have we were listening back then already to your podcast when
• 27:49
  you didn't have a video. Sure. And the funny thing is that when
• 27:52
  you're listening to someone's voice, if you do not have a face with it,
• 27:59
  you're you're you're evoking a mental representation of it, right, Yeah,
• 28:03
  you like in your mind of what that face might look like. Yes,
• 28:06
  yes, so you're you're you're automatically unconsciously creating a creating a mental image of
• 28:11
  who you are listening to and with with with Mason, I think, uh
• 28:18
  there there, I didn't have a very very very typical reptal representation. But
• 28:26
  I think that now that I'm looking at you, I think that you were
• 28:30
  you look like the person. Uh you you really go with the voice,
• 28:33
  right, your your face goes with the voice. So but yeah, this
• 28:37
  as soon as I started to look at the videos, then you're then I
• 28:41
  can see your faces, and then then I can check, like, is
• 28:44
  the are these the two guys that I thought I was listening to? So
• 28:48
  so so Mason, you're good. You're good. Colin, when I before
• 28:52
  I knew who what you would look like? Do you so? Do you
• 28:56
  you want to know what I thought you were looking? I definitely want to
• 29:00
  know. Yes, be as candid as you can be. All Right,
• 29:07
  I love this? All right? Is it think guys like a big fat
• 29:11
  dude with like a neck beard or what I'm just gonna say it's the actor
• 29:15
  Seth Rogen. Really I'll try to do his laugh there. Oh so yeah,
• 29:30
  so that's funny. Yeah, that's what that's that that's sort of the
• 29:33
  unconsciously. That was the image of you that I had when I was listening
• 29:37
  to your voice. And then I saw you guys at the at the at
• 29:41
  one of the first videos, and I was like, Colin does not look
• 29:45
  like that at all. Yeah, that's so you should you know what,
• 29:52
  be even more funny if like you didn't know what Colin looked like, but
• 29:56
  you heard his singing, then you would like you be totally thrown off then,
• 30:03
  because like Colin's like a big dude by you, like six' two
• 30:06
  yeah, like what two twenty or something like that, and so he's like
• 30:10
  a big like jack dude, and he just like can belt out Whitney Houston
• 30:15
  or something, and you just like you would hear his singing voice and you're
• 30:17
  you would not put two together. That's true. That's true. That's kind
• 30:21
  of strange. Low voice, high pitch. Yeah. Yeah, uh are
• 30:27
  we ready for top top five? Yeah, let's roll into it Top five.
• 30:33
  And as a longtime listener, I'm sure you you're like you totally know
• 30:37
  what what to do with Remember most influential not necessarily your favorite. There the
• 30:42
  albums that have changed as a person or a musician or both. Yeah,
• 30:47
  Okay, so I'll be honest, I am ready for years. Oh you're
• 30:52
  ready for years? Dan, I love it. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 30:56
  so yeah, yeah, I know what this this went of the show is.
• 31:00
  So yeah, Okay, let's go. And and by naming these albums,
• 31:06
  you totally you totally get a more clear picture of the music that I
• 31:10
  grew up with, of course, so you'll see that it will fit totally.
• 31:15
  Okay. The first one is the question from Emory. So good,
• 31:22
  Yeah, so good. I just saw Emory a couple of weeks ago in
• 31:26
  here in Minneapolis, and they threw they still throw a hell of a show.
• 31:30
  Oh yeah, man, they're really they're really uh, they're really taking
• 31:37
  that that idea of being like very older emo dudes and really making their own.
• 31:42
  They're really doubled down on it. They really have that's good stuff.
• 31:48
  Yeah. So yeah so this yeah, Emory, it's it's actually it's my
• 31:52
  favorite band of all time. Yeah. I grew up listening to their music
• 31:57
  and they I I remember that when I was a teenager, you had like
• 32:02
  you had secular music and then you had Christian music. But it was like
• 32:07
  much of the Christian music was CCM or it was it was really it was
• 32:15
  positive to sometimes to the extended. I was like not feeling that it was
• 32:19
  real then, and I was a teenager struggling with all these emotions, and
• 32:24
  then Emory came along. Are you listening? I mean their music at that
• 32:30
  time and especially that album really helped me getting my emotions well, giving me
• 32:37
  a let out of my emotions and everything I was going through as a teenager.
• 32:40
  And probably many people will feel the same about that with that album.
• 32:45
  So yeah, I love it. I love the question. It probably is
• 32:47
  my favorite Emory album, although I love in Shallow Seas certainly a love weeks
• 32:53
  then, but the Question I think might be my favorite Emory album for sure.
• 32:58
  The top to bottom, yeah, good call, all right. The
• 33:04
  second one is uh hmm by Reliane k oh mm hmm. Dig it Yeah,
• 33:13
  al by far, by far their best album. I think, oh
• 33:15
  yeah, that's like the that's like obviously the popular pick, but I still
• 33:19
  think it's by far their best album regardless. Yes, It's it is their
• 33:23
  best album. Yeah, I think so too. It's It's It's and I
• 33:27
  remember when it came out that even though I think, do you consider them
• 33:32
  still a pop punk bands or more like a like time rock band? Yeah
• 33:38
  or something. Yeah, yeah, alternative rock band. Yeah yeah, I
• 33:42
  just remember that album, the structure, its originality, a lot of more
• 33:45
  a lot more keys as well. Yes, it's I don't know if it
• 33:52
  is an album that I felt like it was like one in a million,
• 33:55
  like like you, especially within the genre. Yeah, it's it's an album
• 34:01
  that if I look back, look back to it, I think it's still
• 34:06
  it still holds up also pretty well, oh god, yes, yeah,
• 34:12
  yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah. They aged like fine winding comparison
• 34:15
  to a lot of other pop punk bands, very exactly exactly. You can
• 34:20
  you can you can imagine that that I saw that how I'm how I felt
• 34:24
  when I saw them for the first time at Furnace Fest last year. It
• 34:29
  was the only chance for me to see them live. They never they I
• 34:30
  think they never went to Europe before. Never, I don't. I think
• 34:36
  they never been to Europe. Maybe once when I was too young to go
• 34:40
  to a show. Yeah, I can imagine, like two thousand and six
• 34:44
  or seven, they probably went. But it might have been that's interesting,
• 34:47
  might have been interesting. Okay, yeah three number three age of reptiles from
• 34:57
  show. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, man, you are you're nailing every
• 35:04
  single one of these so far, just so you know, yeah, thanks,
• 35:08
  yeah, show Brett is I think with respect to creative creativity, I
• 35:14
  think they are most influential to me as a person. So I also have
• 35:19
  also have their their I don't know if you can see that on the screen,
• 35:22
  but I have a tattoo with their their their music note logo. They
• 35:29
  are I they are such an inspiration on so many creative levels and also spiritually.
• 35:36
  They when I said we decided to just do what we want, that's
• 35:40
  exactly what they did throughout all of their career. They're not pulling very true,
• 35:46
  not pulling any punches. They did so many things to set up conservative
• 35:52
  Christians are conservative music listeners, and they just didn't care. And I think
• 35:58
  they they didn't need and do it to intentionally. They probably knew that it
• 36:05
  was going to confuse or upset people, but I think they genuinely just really
• 36:10
  wanted to make good art and they didn't want to think about what people in
• 36:16
  any conservative environment or subculture would think of it. So I think that's amazing.
• 36:22
  I remember that Jaws All Just dies or Joshua Porter once set in an
• 36:30
  interview that if they that they had the attitude that if they would have made
• 36:37
  an album and they were ready to go in the studio to record it,
• 36:42
  if they at that point knew that no one was going to listen to it,
• 36:46
  they would still record it. And I was like, holy shit,
• 36:54
  I don't know if there's any I don't know how how that has affected they're
• 37:00
  there there. I don't know their pr but I loved it. I was
• 37:06
  like, that is that's this band is called balls Man? Yeah, and
• 37:10
  I think if I think of a show Brett, I think of Age of
• 37:15
  Reptiles. Just it's my favorite album from them, So yeah, it makes
• 37:17
  perfect sense. Yeah, perfect a number four. I think it's a really
• 37:25
  given the albums that I already mentioned, this is probably a more uh logical
• 37:31
  choice. But they're only chasing safety under m Yes are they? Are they
• 37:37
  playing that? So they're they're going around the US obviously playing that in its
• 37:43
  entirety this fall in summer. Are they coming to Europe at all for that?
• 37:47
  Yes, they're coming to Europe. Yeah, they're one of those bands
• 37:50
  that they're playing at Furnace Fest where they're they're playing that album for a reason
• 37:54
  of course, And I think they're even just closing the as of now,
• 37:59
  I think they're closing the festival. They're the headliner of the last day,
• 38:04
  Yeah, I think, I think so. But they're also playing the same
• 38:06
  They're gonna play the same set in the Netherlands. Yeah, they're coming here
• 38:08
  as well. Yeah, they have a big world tour. Yeah. I
• 38:13
  think people are gonna go absolutely nuts. Yes, yeah, that whole album
• 38:16
  to be played through, that's gonna be awesome. Yeah, yeah, definitely,
• 38:21
  yeah, I think Okay, Final one, Okay, the Final One,
• 38:27
  I think is a younger album and it is from a band that is
• 38:34
  not related to Tooth and Nil. I think all the all the previous albums
• 38:37
  were no, no, no, it's not related to it's not from now,
• 38:40
  but like the same kind of scene. Yeah, same kind of scene.
• 38:44
  Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a live album and it's a creation liturgy
• 38:51
  from Gongor Oh nice interesting yeah man, Yeah, dude, that's a that's
• 38:59
  a great call. Why that record in particular, because I I think Gonger
• 39:05
  is a like an amazing creative band also like not like really really try not
• 39:15
  trying to but not afraid to think outside the box or write music that is
• 39:19
  outside of the box and I love the way that I mean, I am
• 39:23
  not really into CCM music or like into music that I love. I love
• 39:31
  worship music, but there is so much worship music that, in comparison to
• 39:37
  like the more alternative rock music, is very generic. I think it's really
• 39:40
  serves it's it probably serves a purpose, but but not to me specifically,
• 39:45
  and that bothers me sometimes. But for that reason, when I first listened
• 39:52
  to Gonger, I was like, this is such great worship music, but
• 39:55
  it is also so creative. It is so different from anything else that's out
• 40:00
  there, and all these combinations of emerge emerging of all these different styles.
• 40:07
  That's that's what they do so so well. And I have seen them a
• 40:13
  couple of times live, and I think their life performance even exceeds their studio
• 40:19
  albums. So for that reason, I chose their life album. Yeah,
• 40:23
  I love that. I think Mason were you were you were you with the
• 40:28
  one group that we want with our youth group. Where Gunger played. It
• 40:34
  was in Minneapolis, like way back when Acquire the Fire. I think it
• 40:38
  was Acquired the Fire, but it was like back at during the days when
• 40:43
  you know, they were still just doing like the typical CCM stuff, right,
• 40:46
  And then it was not long after that when all of a sudden,
• 40:50
  like they started just going off on a different path. It was such a
• 40:52
  cool thing to see. Yeah, I do remember going to Acquire the Fire.
• 40:57
  Uh it was that maybe like two thousand and eight or something like that.
• 41:00
  And maybe I just don't remember if they were at that Acquire the Fire,
• 41:04
  I don't remember them, but I do remember going to Acquire Fire that
• 41:07
  one year. Yeah, the cult is what we call it, all right,
• 41:13
  Uh, what would you like to plug? Ley? Yeah, it's
• 41:19
  uh, it's it's so it's weird that that because I live in the Netherlands,
• 41:23
  it's really hard for me to I think it's the one thing I can
• 41:29
  think of to plug is the album. So the album that we put out
• 41:34
  last Friday is called Your Mind has been Poisoned. It's available, I think
• 41:39
  everywhere, so you should give it a listen, especially if you like very
• 41:45
  intense metal core. Yes, I think HiT's the way to describe it.
• 41:51
  Yeah. So yeah, and and just for everyone just so that they know
• 41:54
  your Mind has been Poisoned. It's it's a direct quote from my mom.
• 41:58
  Actually, she saw that you were listening to show Bred after after she found
• 42:06
  out. I was listening to Chingy in the car. Oh do you remember
• 42:10
  Hotel? All right? Yeah, yeah, so it's a yeah, and
• 42:19
  I think it's also we haven't talked about this yet, but so for us,
• 42:22
  we we kind of like we like to brand ourselves with the paradox of
• 42:28
  being an anti religious Christian band. I love that. Yeah, so so
• 42:34
  we are Christian, but we are Christian band. We have a Christian message,
• 42:37
  but it is we want to get rid of all the sort of legalism.
• 42:44
  Legalism. Yeah, that's it, that's it's yeah, we are we.
• 42:47
  Yeah. You guys have a song called that even you. Yeah,
• 42:51
  we have a consult called a song called legalism destruction. Yes. And it
• 42:54
  has an operator logical operator in the middle of it, like an arrow,
• 43:00
  which which is an operator from formal semantics, and it's A. It's it
• 43:06
  means that whatever is, if there's A, then there's always B. That
• 43:14
  so A implicates B. But if A is not there, you can all
• 43:16
  you can still have B. But if there's A, there's always B.
• 43:20
  So if you have legalism, you always have destruction, right if you're not,
• 43:23
  if you don't have legalism, there can still be destructive destruction for any
• 43:27
  other reason. But if you have legalism, you always have destruction. So,
• 43:31
  and I'm a linguist myself, so I I I thought of a I
• 43:37
  thought it was a fun way too to create an interesting song title. Yeah,
• 43:43
  brilliant. That's awesome, brilliant. Yes, uh, LEVI anything else
• 43:46
  you'd like to plug? Yeah? So uh. Next year I will be
• 43:52
  touring with a different band that we are setting up right now. They are
• 43:57
  musicians from the UK, and we are starting a grindcore cover band covering songs
• 44:06
  from the Spice Girls. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are
• 44:09
  you going to be Are you gonna be the vocalist? Yeah, I'm going
• 44:12
  to be the vocalist. Yes, Yes, let's hear your best pig squeal.
• 44:19
  Oh, let's let's let's not let's not wreck the microphone here, okay,
• 44:23
  all right, all right, we'll leave that. We'll leave that package
• 44:27
  unopened until we hear this. Yeah. So probably somewhere next year we're gonna
• 44:32
  put out some some Spice Girls covers. Who's going to be posh? Who's
• 44:37
  going to be posh? Spice is it? Isn't that one of the scary
• 44:44
  Oh yeah, I don't remember the rest. Yeah, we we haven't.
• 44:46
  We haven't quite. Uh so as if now they just you're gonna be Baby
• 44:52
  Spice. Yes, you're you're you're a little bit shorter and you're blonde.
• 44:57
  You gotta get picked. So yeah, that should be me. That's be
• 45:00
  me. Yes, Yes, we're going to see how it all works out.
• 45:01
  But yeah, I'm really excited to also tour with them, to tour
• 45:07
  with those guys and see how these songs work out live, see you showing
• 45:10
  up? Actually, are they are going to be? Are they all going
• 45:14
  to be like people who actually love the original Spice Girls pop music? Then
• 45:19
  they might? Or are they just going to be like extremely heavy metal fans
• 45:23
  just wanted to do one thing, something different, something in in, something
• 45:28
  like baby metal. You know guys know baby metal? Oh yeah yeah yeah,
• 45:30
  yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Can I can I suggest a band name
• 45:35
  if you haven't already come up with? Oh? Bring it? How about
• 45:37
  spice grinder spots right there? Oh yeah, we should really take that in
• 45:43
  consideration. Yeah, all right, it's right there for the faith lives.
• 45:49
  Yeah, thanks for advice. And with how popular Dune is right now,
• 45:52
  I mean yeah, oh man, it's just it's just one thing after another,
• 45:59
  Yes, I never knew that I needed a grindcore Spice Girls cover band
• 46:04
  until you said You're going to have a grindcore Spice Girls cover band. So
• 46:08
  yeah, I love how you're just making some people in the world that I
• 46:12
  didn't even know I wanted. Yeah, yeah, now you know you wanted.
• 46:15
  You need it. We definitely need it, yes, absolutely yeah.
• 46:21
  So no one has done it before, but I really need I need it
• 46:23
  so bad, so I decided to do it myself. Yeah. Love it.
• 46:27
  Okay, if if you build it, they will come, so yeah,
• 46:30
  sweet, Well leave. I thank you so much for chatting more about
• 46:34
  Seven Spirits Burning. Everybody needs to check you all out. The new album
• 46:37
  is absolutely incredible, so thanks so much more or thanks so much for chatting
• 46:42
  more about it. Uh and hopefully we see you soon, whether it's at
• 46:45
  maybe potentially Furnace Fast or whenever you might be in the States or for whatever
• 46:50
  reason we happen to be in Europe. Yeah yeah, I really hope to
• 46:53
  see you guys very very soon. Yeah yeah, got job. Welcome back
• 47:30
  to the Black Sheep Podcast. We have a Norway band today, friends from
• 47:36
  the frigid North. Do you guys want to introduce yourselves? Tell us who
• 47:40
  you are and what you do in the band. Yeah, sure, I'm
• 47:45
  I'll start, if that's okay with you on the there, my name is
• 47:50
  I'm a guitar player in a band called we call our music death Jazz,
• 47:57
  and it's essentially a blend of not just death metal, but extreme metal and
• 48:01
  a lot of jazzy elements. And we have a saxophone player with us doing
• 48:07
  that. Yeah, now you can go. Yeah, my name is Sondra
• 48:13
  and I'm the homeless bearded man who screams in nagabas usually in norweg one of
• 48:19
  those Yeah, yeah, right, Like you can't have a successful band without
• 48:23
  having one guy that's just mentally unstable and lace on the streets at nights.
• 48:30
  So yeah, that's my role, usually screaming in Norwegian. But every time
• 48:36
  I start a song that is English, I just tell the audience that you'll
• 48:39
  understand exactly as much as you normally would. It's not at all who By
• 48:49
  the way, since you're being homeless and all, that's a good question.
• 48:53
  Is this just like some stranger's house You just broke into this Harry Potter's parents
• 48:58
  closet or stepparents clam Yeah, like this is the cupboard under the stairs.
• 49:04
  It looks very spacious, but it's because of the magic or maybe the shrewd.
• 49:07
  I don't know. You are really tiny, that's true, that could
• 49:15
  be the case. It could be that's actually huge. Yeah, Mason,
• 49:27
  so that's how long he is? Oh man. I hope that some of
• 49:37
  our jokes don't get lost in the pond here. I don't know. We'll
• 49:40
  see, but we shall see. Well, I feel like I need to
• 49:45
  just disclaim everything. I mean, you said that you're a death jazz band,
• 49:51
  and I think that's a good moniker for what you guys are. I
• 49:54
  feel like no one can quite understand what that means until you hear it.
• 50:00
  So maybe maybe Mason and Post can you can you add in like just like
• 50:05
  a little snippet of for everybody? Okay? Good because because this is this
• 50:13
  is some of the strangest, most awesome music combo I've heard in a long
• 50:17
  long time, adding angry jazz music with a with a with a killer sax
• 50:24
  player. What's your sax player's name? Again? His name Alexander? Okay,
• 50:32
  awesome Alexander rips on the sacks and and the rest of the band.
• 50:37
  I mean you guys all rip, there's no doubt about that. You guys
• 50:42
  are absolutely just you know, laying it down. Like I said, it's
• 50:46
  hard to explain unless you hear it. Thankfully, the listeners have just heard
• 50:51
  it, right, Mason. So, how did you guys come about saying
• 50:55
  we want to create a death jazz band? Or it's just because you guys
• 50:59
  are he's one guy who's like, oh, I know how to do is
• 51:01
  play saxophone? Or how did this all go down? Did you guys lose
• 51:05
  a bat? Like? What happened here? It was sort of random.
• 51:08
  We all we started playing together in music school, and so we were all
• 51:15
  just kind of we enjoy experimenting with music to begin with. In the very
• 51:22
  beginning when we started, we were just playing metal. But then we had
• 51:25
  this song that had a long jammy park, you know, all that kind
• 51:30
  of stuff, and we thought this would be cool to try something fun.
• 51:34
  And we had a friend who actually plays the clarinet, which is what we
• 51:37
  did before we had the saxophone, so we had him on a song and
• 51:42
  we just thought it sounded cool, so we made that the band, and
• 51:45
  then when he quits after some time, we had the saxophone come in so
• 51:51
  yeah, really just love doing Yeah. A quick fact, there is actually
• 51:55
  that the clarinet player is. It's mostly clarinet that is on our first album,
• 52:01
  Willis Paul, except for the song Till Dawn, which features another saxophone
• 52:09
  friend of ours who isn't our saxophone player right now, but a cool friend
• 52:15
  who decided to do a little bit on that song. Very cool, very
• 52:20
  cool. You know, I'm just immensely impressed at the quality of the music,
• 52:27
  because you know, you would think that if it's if you've got a
• 52:30
  sax player in a metal band, it's probably gonna be gimmicky, but it's
• 52:34
  not. It. Actually, it feels it feels authentic, and it feels
• 52:37
  like you guys are taking it seriously. And I'll be honest, I've translated
• 52:43
  some of your lyrics as well, because I don't speak Norwegian, but I
• 52:46
  have translated some of the lyrics. Sometimes Google Translate doesn't quite get it right,
• 52:51
  but it's pretty close. And the message you guys are putting out is
• 52:54
  pretty serious as well. I'm curious where where do you Where do you guys
• 53:01
  kind of where do you guys kind of want to go with the rest of
• 53:06
  this, Like like is this going to expand? Are you guys going to
• 53:08
  continue to explore that the jazz rock because I hope you do. Personally.
• 53:15
  Well, we've been writing a lot lately. We're actually going into the studio
• 53:20
  in July, and we're definitely we definitely want to keep, you know,
• 53:28
  trying doing the thing we're doing because we really enjoy it, but we also
• 53:31
  want to try to push it some more. I think I think maybe the
• 53:37
  stuff we have now is is headed in a more I don't I don't want
• 53:42
  to say mainstream direction, but we're trying to get some more uh some more
• 53:46
  kind of hooky stuff going on, and then we're also trying to get some
• 53:51
  more heavy stuff going on, Like we're we're trying to do some some more
• 53:57
  down tuned stuff and some more double stuff like that, and just expanding it.
• 54:04
  I think, what do you think from there? Well, it's definitely
• 54:08
  a bit more mainstream the way it's been written as of now, because when
• 54:14
  we do demos, like Oscar does a lot of demos, So we have
• 54:19
  a couple of demos from the other guys in the band, like the drummer
• 54:22
  barn and Yeah, I don't which is the person named agabas. But I
• 54:28
  think we'll end up having a little bit more experimental vibe than we actually feel
• 54:35
  at the moment, because we're actually gonna stay at cabin for like a week
• 54:40
  and just do a lot of silly stuff while we're recording it as well,
• 54:47
  and myself am trying to like expand a little bit on my vocal horizon because
• 54:55
  at the moment it's very much a homeless man yelling at the the bad baby.
• 55:01
  But I've been trying to get a little bit more into like the guttural
• 55:06
  stuff, and also trying to incorporate even more of like the silly type of
• 55:10
  vocal that we had on the Stag. At the Stag, which was the
• 55:15
  second single, bar I Hate Supreme Nice Nice. Uh. You know,
• 55:20
  it's funny you said that you guys record that you guys are gonna record in
• 55:22
  a cabin. I just imagine that every Norwegian artist ever has always just recorded
• 55:28
  in a cabin and then they go hang out in the saana afterwards. Yeah.
• 55:31
  Actually, that's that's a misconception most Norwegian artists recording the woods. But
• 55:37
  we're going to be down by the fjords, that's actually true. That's such
• 55:42
  a stereos. I've realized that right now. Yeah, you need to record
• 55:47
  in the woods on a tape machine from nineteen eighty nine or something if you
• 55:53
  want to be We're actually going to use microphones. So I'm really excited about
• 55:59
  that. So generous of you all. I mean, I would imagine like
• 56:07
  every Xtal song was always recorded in the woods without an actual microphone. Yeah.
• 56:13
  Yeah, they just summon the sounds and then they come into existence.
• 56:17
  That's right, I get that. Yeah. Are you guys familiar at all
• 56:22
  with the American band the Callous dow Boys. Is that a band that you
• 56:27
  guys are familiar with at all? No, I am, in turn of
• 56:30
  them, but they kind of have like like obviously it's a different band,
• 56:35
  but they kind of have a little bit of the same sort of vibe as
• 56:37
  you guys, where it's like part part of it is feels like it's supposed
• 56:40
  to be really silly, but then there's certainly parts of it where it's like
• 56:43
  very serious. But they also include a lot of different instruments in their songs.
• 56:49
  Uh. And at the end of the day, they're also like like
• 56:52
  a metalcore math kind of core hardcore band, like you know, so they
• 56:55
  it is still very much that, but yeah, they do have kind of
• 56:59
  these you know, different instruments, Like I mean, I think there's even
• 57:01
  like maybe a saxophone every now and then in there in some of their songs.
• 57:05
  So I mean they definitely have that kind of like same vibe as you
• 57:07
  guys. And so yeah, when I first heard heard of you guys,
• 57:12
  I was like immediately, I'm like, oh that this to me sounds like
• 57:15
  Colstowboys. And that's not to say that you guys are the same kind of
• 57:17
  band or anything, but but that is like knowing how like different your guys'
• 57:22
  music is. Like that was like the closest I could come up to any
• 57:25
  sort of comparison. Uh So, if anybody out there loves the Colstow Boys,
• 57:30
  like this probably is like the European version of that or like that you
• 57:34
  guys kind of like have a similar sort of vibe of you know, trying
• 57:37
  to be silly, trying to be serious, uh and sort of fusing different
• 57:40
  genres together. Maybe I can't find them on Spotify. Is it spelled just
• 57:46
  just the straight straight out like that C A L L O U S and
• 57:52
  now boyso b O Y S. Yeah. Anyway, they're great. Yeah,
• 58:00
  yeah, yeah, but they like a similar sort of vibe. Yeah,
• 58:04
  they've got they've got some songs that they have. They have some similarities.
• 58:07
  But I think that you guys are are are very different still in a
• 58:08
  lot of ways. I'm curious. I'm curious how your how is your audience
• 58:14
  kind of come about? Are you finding that you guys have a pretty large
• 58:19
  audience. Well, I wouldn't say that we have like a large audience.
• 58:27
  We've had like a pretty good, good up keep for the last few years,
• 58:31
  especially after Oscar talked to a bunch of cows in the field. The
• 58:37
  last year, was it that went like totally budget crazy on TikTok? What
• 58:45
  is it two million gods now or something? I just want to have well
• 58:49
  and a half. Okay, I'm bad with math. I'm the vocalist.
• 58:52
  I can be like that. But yeah, we've felt like we've had a
• 59:01
  couple of shows where we have like, yeah, I don't know, ten
• 59:05
  to fifteen people in the audience, and we've also had shows we have sold
• 59:12
  out last year, but it just it's like mostly like club shows, like
• 59:19
  one hundred to one hundred fifty type of cap and it's mostly the festivals,
• 59:25
  Like when we get to the festival, then we've experienced that we have oh,
• 59:31
  we actually have a lot of people who are interested. Yeah, but
• 59:36
  I gotta imagine that that every every time you're at like a festival or like
• 59:39
  when you're build with somebody else, that all of a sudden people are like,
• 59:45
  what the hell is this? This is incredible. They're either gonna hate
• 59:49
  it or they're gonna love it, right, I mean, there's not really
• 59:51
  gonna be an in between. I feel like with yeah, there's something you
• 59:54
  said, something about you that you would imagine it would be gimmicky, and
• 59:59
  I think a lot lot of people think that it probably is when they hear
• 1:00:04
  about it, but you know, to us, it was never like we
• 1:00:07
  never intended it to be gimmicky because we just genuinely love jazz and we want
• 1:00:14
  to, you know, mix it up. And I think a lot of
• 1:00:15
  people maybe aren't familiar with the kind of jazz that we that we love,
• 1:00:21
  like John Coltrane and the crazy stuff from the sixties, Right, they're more
• 1:00:25
  familiar with jazz as just being the music that plays in the elevator while you're
• 1:00:30
  right, you know, right, And so my experience has been that once
• 1:00:36
  people realize that it's it's not gimmick, they enjoy it and they realize that
• 1:00:42
  jazz can actually be a heavy sound. So I think there's a big potential
• 1:00:46
  audience, but there's also there's a lot of people we have to convince because,
• 1:00:53
  yeah, jazz is often seen as this gimmicky thing by by many people.
• 1:00:59
  Right, yeah, have you. We have had a couple of concerts
• 1:01:01
  where like, if I'm running out from the stage during a drum sol or
• 1:01:07
  something, I've had the guys come up to me and say like, yeah,
• 1:01:12
  this is really good, but I don't like the saxophone, Like mid
• 1:01:15
  show and I'm just like standing there, like we're not done playing, are
• 1:01:20
  you? Are you asking me to fire our saxophone players? Like right now?
• 1:01:24
  Like I just pack your bags and leave, like out of the band.
• 1:01:32
  What's so funny is that if you took the saxophone away, it would
• 1:01:37
  still be good music. But I mean you kind of get lost in the
• 1:01:40
  shuffle. I feel like too. I mean, there's there's the there's a
• 1:01:45
  there's an extra level of musicality that comes when you add that saxophone in,
• 1:01:51
  and it brings so much more energy to the to the show and to the
• 1:01:55
  music in general. That's that's nice of you too. We just always thought
• 1:02:01
  it would be boring to do something that's you know already then, and of
• 1:02:07
  course you can write new music with the format that with the typical format,
• 1:02:13
  but we just really enjoy doing it like this, So it's it's good to
• 1:02:16
  hear that some people are enjoying it. Yeah, do you guys get a
• 1:02:22
  sense that, like your audience is primarily people who really love metal or heavy
• 1:02:27
  music, and then they're now being introduced to jazz or is it vice versa
• 1:02:30
  where it's more like jazz people that now are getting more introduced to heavy music,
• 1:02:35
  like or is or is it? Sort of just a toss up between
• 1:02:37
  both of those. But I'm really curious, like, like, what's the
• 1:02:40
  entry point for a lot of your audience. I think it's mostly metal or
• 1:02:45
  you know, I don't want to say it's mostly metal heads, it's mostly
• 1:02:49
  metal enjoyers, right, So people who like metal, I feel, get
• 1:02:55
  into our music easier. But people who are alike very have their identity based
• 1:03:01
  around I'm a metal head. I think they can see it as sort of
• 1:03:07
  a jokey or gimmicky thing. But I feel like that's yeah, I feel
• 1:03:13
  like that's the thing. People who like metal amongst a lot of other things
• 1:03:16
  are the people who get into our music. I don't, and the people
• 1:03:24
  who just enjoy experimental music. Like we have a lot of people that enjoy
• 1:03:30
  heavy music, but also the people that are like really into the weird stuff,
• 1:03:35
  like, uh, what's the Beatles White album? Wasn't that kind of
• 1:03:40
  super strange? Yeah? And also the Atomic Heart Mother by Pink Floyd and
• 1:03:47
  stuff like that, like people who enjoy things that isn't like it doesn't fit
• 1:03:52
  into one specific mold, but it's still so familiar, like has somewhat some
• 1:04:00
  of be it, Like yeah, yeah, we can still pump iron in
• 1:04:03
  the gym to this, uh, even it's really strange. I definitely max
• 1:04:11
  out, uh to the sax cellos, I'll tell you that much. That's
• 1:04:14
  right. Oh yeah, that's called sexing out. Actually, Oh that's that's
• 1:04:18
  usually what I do in the evening with my wife once a month, right,
• 1:04:28
  once a month. Uh, Let's let's talk about like any new music
• 1:04:34
  that you guys are maybe planning on putting out. Obviously he had the album
• 1:04:40
  last year that came out, but yeah, like, are you guys in
• 1:04:43
  the process of like still writing some new music, is there like any expectation
• 1:04:46
  to put out some new music this year even, Yeah, we're planning on
• 1:04:49
  starting putting out new music in in the autumn or quick turnaround then yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Yeah, because you guys you said you're you're starting to record here in July,
• 1:05:01
  so it's it's going to be coming out pretty quick soon after recording.
• 1:05:04
  Yeah. We we produce all our stuff for ourselves, so so we don't
• 1:05:09
  have any anybody we have to wait for. So when we're done recording,
• 1:05:13
  we can just sort of mix it and get going. So the only who's
• 1:05:17
  the engineer of the band? I mean, that's that's an impressive thing to
• 1:05:20
  do, because that's that that takes a It takes a very keen ear and
• 1:05:26
  some skills that not a lot of people have. So you do that yourself,
• 1:05:29
  it's it's me yeah, wow. I Actually I find that incorporating saxophone
• 1:05:34
  and a metal mix hasn't been that big of an issue because, as you
• 1:05:39
  can probably hear, he plays very aggressively and it's it's it really blends in
• 1:05:45
  with the rest of the instruments. Quite a lot I have tried to do
• 1:05:48
  I have done other recordings where I've had a saxophone players who who play,
• 1:05:55
  you know, more more more softly than him, and that can be really
• 1:06:00
  difficult. But he the way he plays is just it's just it's a very
• 1:06:03
  metal way to play the saxophone, and it's I just think it blends in
• 1:06:08
  quite nicely. Yeah, there's there's very few things out there that are more
• 1:06:12
  aggressive than an overblown sax Yeah. It sounds so cool. It sounds so
• 1:06:17
  so cool and so the world. And I try to push him to do
• 1:06:21
  it so much, and I don't realize that it's actually it's it's apparently a
• 1:06:27
  really taxing thing to do, because Yeah, after every show he's like his
• 1:06:30
  voice is completely gone and he's so I feel sorry for him, but we
• 1:06:35
  need him to make those sounds. I've got a friend who's a very good
• 1:06:42
  saxophone player. He plays probably two hundred shows a year. Oh really,
• 1:06:47
  and he every single show he's got, he's got two or three overblown solos,
• 1:06:53
  and you can tell that he is pushing it hard. Every vein in
• 1:06:56
  his neck is just bulging out. He turns into a cherry. It's uh,
• 1:07:00
  it's it's a fun, fun thing. To watch. But the sound
• 1:07:03
  it makes is just so aggressive and it fits so well. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:07:09
  I think that's the thing. It's it feels like something that should just
• 1:07:13
  be natural to do. But I don't know why people have this relationship with
• 1:07:16
  jazz that it's, you know, the music they play at Walmart or whatever.
• 1:07:21
  But it's I guess they don't play jazz at Walmart. Man, they
• 1:07:27
  play country music at Walmart. Walmart story that I can that I can think
• 1:07:38
  about. But you know, like the stores where they play like call me
• 1:07:41
  jazz music. Yeah, right right, it's usually like your it's usually like
• 1:07:44
  your Macy's or j C or it's your hotels. For some reason, hotels
• 1:07:50
  love the jazz music in the lobby. Yeah, and it's usually that bad
• 1:07:57
  jazz that you're talking about, Like uh, like like Kenny g would be
• 1:08:00
  like that'd be way too much for them. They've got to turn it down
• 1:08:03
  even more than that. So Yeah, speaking of Walmart, is there any
• 1:08:09
  plan to maybe tour in the States at all, to come over across the
• 1:08:12
  pond and and play some shows here in the States. We we really want
• 1:08:16
  to do that, but we don't have any plans to do it right now
• 1:08:19
  because it's quite a process getting work visus, and it's quite expensive to just
• 1:08:27
  apply for them, and I think it's they're quite difficult to get even if
• 1:08:30
  even if you do apply for them. So I think right now we actually
• 1:08:33
  when you have a homeless man in your in your band, yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:42
  no, we'll we'll just we'll just put him in my carry on.
• 1:08:44
  It'll be fine. But yeah, I don't think we have enough listeners in
• 1:08:48
  the States right now to where we would be able to make back the money
• 1:08:51
  we would have to spend on going over there. But it's it's one of
• 1:08:56
  the first things we want to do when we when we're sort of big and
• 1:09:00
  hopefully one day to be able to do that. Mhm yeah, because I
• 1:09:04
  think we looked into the economics of it and and it's like it's fifty thousand
• 1:09:10
  Norwegian coroners or something, which translates to five thousand American dollars. I think,
• 1:09:15
  yeah, okay, and that's just getting from Norway to America, right,
• 1:09:20
  Yeah, that's a bit, that's a bit much. Yeah. Well,
• 1:09:26
  yeah, I feel like it'd be tough to find to find people to
• 1:09:29
  tour with and things like that, because obviously, you know, being a
• 1:09:31
  relatively small band at the moment. I mean, you don't necessarily have those
• 1:09:34
  international relationships built up yet. So actually, I'm going to do a plug
• 1:09:39
  for another band there because we've been talking with some guys on Instagram who are
• 1:09:44
  a band from Texas, also a metal band with a saxophone player, and
• 1:09:46
  they're called Throat Piss Throat Roath Piss, Growth Piss from Texas. Yeah,
• 1:09:53
  when we get when we go to Texas, we that that we're going to
• 1:09:56
  play with them, at least that's for sure. So I just typed in
• 1:10:00
  Throat Piss and Spotify is not the first thing that comes up. Perhaps.
• 1:10:10
  I don't think they have anything out on Spotify or any major streaming sides.
• 1:10:15
  I think it's only like YouTube demos as far as I've seen these these guys.
• 1:10:19
  These guys look wild too. They definitely I think I'm on their Spotify
• 1:10:24
  because yeah, there's a band in Texas. Yeah that's called Throat Piss three
• 1:10:29
  and thirty monthly listeners. Yeah hell yeah, yeah, there they are.
• 1:10:33
  I think I think you guys might be onto something here, though. I
• 1:10:36
  think you guys are. I mean, there's there's obviously been you know,
• 1:10:39
  aggressive uh jazz music out there in the past that's nothing new, but adding
• 1:10:45
  a lot of the elements that you guys have added. I think that you
• 1:10:47
  guys are kind of pioneers and a little bit of a little bit on the
• 1:10:50
  ground floor here starting off something maybe new. Maybe it takes off. I
• 1:10:55
  hope it does, because I think that there's a lot of potential in it,
• 1:10:58
  and I think that you guys have really got a lot of a lot
• 1:11:00
  of runway to be able to kind of take this wherever you want. So
• 1:11:04
  I'm excited to see where you guys take it in the future. It's very
• 1:11:09
  nice. We'd say it should be said though that if anyone who's listening aren't
• 1:11:14
  aware of a band called Shining, the Norwegian Shining, not the Swedish ones.
• 1:11:18
  They started doing some of the things we're doing now like ten years ago.
• 1:11:25
  They're really great. Their saxophone player is Jurgen Munkib and for periphery fans,
• 1:11:30
  that's the guy who plays the sax solo on Wildfire. Yeah. Interesting.
• 1:11:36
  So it's also like the only saxophone player who is featured on almost all
• 1:11:42
  of the metal tracks, like it plays with them a lot, and then
• 1:11:46
  you have like it plays keyboard and stuff with is it. It isn't Darkfron
• 1:11:54
  but it's something like in that Emperor, Yeah, Emperor, right. Sure.
• 1:12:01
  There's only one other heavy band I can think of that has saxon it
• 1:12:08
  at least it has you know, some some decent name recognition, and that's
• 1:12:11
  the band called Zulu. I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with them.
• 1:12:15
  They're like a grindcore band, right, power power violence, that's what
• 1:12:18
  they call them, power violence they call yeah. Yeah. They have a
• 1:12:20
  lot of activist kind of messages and stuff like that. I saw them at
• 1:12:27
  Furnest Veest this last year or maybe it was two years ago now I can't
• 1:12:30
  remember, but they were wild, wild, wild wild. They just went
• 1:12:33
  absolutely nuts. So should we get into your top five or sorry, your
• 1:12:39
  top six influential albums? Let's go all right, sweet three each. We'll
• 1:12:45
  go back and forth. So who would like to start? Do you want
• 1:12:50
  to start something that I have to think? Okay, I think I'm gonna
• 1:12:55
  go with. It's a Norwegian hardcore band, All the Die a Legend or
• 1:13:00
  die ex legend uh and their debut album which is called I don't remember if
• 1:13:11
  it was Hater's gonna hate or tread fucker, but it's one of those.
• 1:13:15
  Uh. And the album is it's the thing that got me solidified into like
• 1:13:21
  a hardcore music scene. And I saw them at the AA FESTIVALUM, which
• 1:13:27
  is one of the bigger festivals here in Norway, when I was thirteen fourteen,
• 1:13:31
  and I mushed so hard that I couldn't keep my next straight up without
• 1:13:36
  holding it up for the rest of the day. So yeah, that's that's
• 1:13:44
  one of my top three interesting We'll check them out, Oscar. I think
• 1:13:49
  I'm gonna go Absen Blim Sugar Oh yeah, yes, just because you know,
• 1:13:57
  they've they've proven to me that if if the formula works, just you
• 1:14:03
  use the formula and it's it's so good. It's just I feel like it's
• 1:14:08
  it feels like a big chugging locomotive that just sort of clouds through everything.
• 1:14:14
  It's it's such a heavy sound that I there's so many bands who are trying
• 1:14:17
  to replicate it, but My Sugar are the only ones who are able to
• 1:14:21
  sound like Sugar. Yeah. Yeah, but they like they like really set
• 1:14:26
  off, like the whole gent thing. Yeah, and they're the only ones
• 1:14:30
  that really sound like that. Yeah, I think so yeah, so it
• 1:14:33
  could be a lot of their other albums as well, but I'm going to
• 1:14:36
  choose that one Good Call, Good Call, Sondra. I'm gonna steal the
• 1:14:43
  obvious one that Oscar is probably gonna mention, which is cider Talk by Cartak
• 1:14:48
  Can you say one more time? Sorry? Vallet Talk or Talk by Kevel
• 1:14:55
  Talk. They've toured a lot with like Mustard on in the States, and
• 1:15:02
  they also have like Troy Sanders On the song Crack of Doom on their is
• 1:15:09
  the fifth album or the fourth album? Yeah, but like their first album,
• 1:15:17
  the self titled album that came out in like twenty eleven, like a
• 1:15:23
  proper way to use scandy rock in the more metal scene. It's really catchy.
• 1:15:30
  But you also have like these really long and complicated songs like Leak Turn,
• 1:15:34
  And it also speaks a lot to me because nobody in the entire world
• 1:15:40
  knows what the vocalist actually is screaming. And I've seen a lot of like
• 1:15:45
  lyrics for their songs from that album, and we even tried to play some
• 1:15:50
  of those, like back in twenty sixteen seventeen, and it was like Satan
• 1:15:58
  is playing volleyball and kissing isn't nice and stuff like that. Have you ever
• 1:16:03
  have you ever seen those old videos. I don't know if you guys are
• 1:16:05
  familiar job for a cowboy. Yeah, but there's these old music videos that
• 1:16:11
  someone created that had it was basically all the misheard lyrics, so like they
• 1:16:17
  would like put pictures that that related to like whatever they heard the lyrics being,
• 1:16:21
  and so a lot of them are just like completely interpreted incorrectly and it
• 1:16:25
  makes it hilarious. Yeah, maybe maybe there should be that for for you
• 1:16:30
  guys. You guys should make one. Yeah, oh well, maybe we
• 1:16:35
  should get someone else to make one. It's difficult when you should we do
• 1:16:39
  it? Yeah? Yeah, Okay, I'm gonna do the next one,
• 1:16:47
  and I'm gonna be controversial and say a hip hop album and it's gonna be
• 1:16:54
  too. Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar's such a good. Yeah, it's
• 1:16:59
  amazing. I had never really listened much to hip hop before I checked that
• 1:17:02
  out album, but I've heard I had heard so much about him, so
• 1:17:06
  I was like, I have to check this out. And so I just
• 1:17:10
  heard it and there was so I just realized there was so much sort of
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  there was so much stuff you could do creatively that's not just playing an instrument.
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  And there's so much cool sampling stuff going on there, and like he's
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  telling a story through the whole thing. I thought it was really cool,
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  and also how the production is being used as an instrument with stuff being like
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  going wild all of a sudden and then he goes mono and then yeah,
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  I just thought it's a creative monster. So that's that's one of mine.
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  Yeah, isn't that the one that Thundercat did like most of the music production?
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  Correct? Yeah, that might be true. He does based on on
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  the one of the songs at least, Yeah, yeah, he did.
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  He did quite a bit with it. I've always been impressed by Kendrick's a
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  Bill. I'm not like a huge hip hop fan either, but that is
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  definitely an album that's, you know, seminal and I think in a lot
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  of people's lives. But his ability to use his voice in a as an
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  instrument in a different way that most vocalists use their voice is fascinating. I
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  mean, he's literally doing poly rhythms with his voice, which I really think
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  was possible. If you listen back to it, you'll start to pick up
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  on some of it, but rhythmically it's just so so much more rich than
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  the most most hip hop in my mind at least. Yeah, it's so
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  great, and he's always like just a little bit behind the beat, and
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  it's so it just feels so good, creates such a great flow and such
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  a great groove. Yeah, yeah, definitely, all right, Sandra,
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  I think I'm actually gonna jump that bandwagon as well and go for a hip
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  hop album myself, and I'm choosing D Twelves Devil's Night D twelve. Yeah,
• 1:19:04
  like the rap group that featured Eminem really like the most famous member of
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  them today, but it was I think the album was in two thousand and
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  one or nineteen ninety nine, like right before Eminem had his big break,
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  and it featured him and the Bizarre I think his name was Proof and the
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  Obitrice I think was a part of it, or did it just feature on
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  some of the songs. I don't remember, but I remember that I listened
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  to that album a ton when I discovered him, like twenty ten, and
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  just the way that it's like so much like silly parts of making lyrics and
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  making music and not taking it too seriously but still having like serious themes and
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  creative ways to structure sentences, which is like most of the things that I
• 1:20:13
  do when I write lyrics that I don't feel like just saying it right out.
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  I want to have like either it's fun with a pun or just like
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  structuring sentences in ways that it can be understood in multiple ways, even if
• 1:20:29
  people won't know what I'm saying. Yeah, Some in Windows is like like
• 1:20:35
  that album really did it for me. Great Songwriters and Purple Pills is just
• 1:20:43
  a fantastic track from that good Call, Sweet Awesome Oscar Final One. Final
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  One might not come as a huge price, but it's going to be a
• 1:20:54
  love supreme by John Coltrane. Yeah, I might going to be surprising that
• 1:21:00
  that's an album that's had influence, but it's just it's just perfect jazz really
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  yeah, And it's the same thing. I feel like, there's as there
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  is with jazz and metal that you can draw out of parallels, there's also
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  the hip hop and it's the way how Kendrick is always just dragging a little
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  bit behind the beat making it flow really nicely with Coltrane, and it's the
• 1:21:26
  same thing. He's always just you know, just he's chilling on the pulse,
• 1:21:30
  and it's like you listen to it and you can just hear it out
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  there in full control, and it's this. He made some albums in the
• 1:21:40
  later stages of his career that went just absolutely batshit crazy, and then in
• 1:21:46
  the beginning of his career it was more laid back. So this album is
• 1:21:49
  just like perfectly in the middle. They're sort of taking off, but it's
• 1:21:53
  still grounded in a way that makes it not too crazy. And yeah,
• 1:22:00
  the the quartet they're playing with on this album, they have played together for
• 1:22:04
  such a long time at this point that they were just super locked in.
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  So it's just it's just, yeah, a great death album. Well the
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  quartet's full of killers too. Just guys that are just it was it Jamison
• 1:22:17
  that played with the Oh my gosh, I'm now I'm gonna make myself like
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  a or Elmore? Is it James Elmore? Now? I can't remember Ellen
• 1:22:29
  Jones drums at least, Yeah, who's the who's the on the piano?
• 1:22:33
  I can never remember the name of the bassis. That's as it usually goes.
• 1:22:40
  That's a shocking fact. Jimmy Garrison. Jimmy Garrison, he was a
• 1:22:45
  monster as well. Yeah, Elvin Jones is nuts as well. I mean,
• 1:22:48
  those guys were those guys are wild. I I would love to talk
• 1:22:54
  jazz with some with some people at some point, because we don't ever talk
• 1:22:57
  jazz and I I've I've fully dabbled my toes in that water for a little
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  while and I enjoy it significantly, So I would actually come with a little
• 1:23:10
  recommendation. Therefore, it's a little bit of a plug for a power jazz
• 1:23:15
  band from Tronline called I Like to Sleep and listening to their music, yeah,
• 1:23:25
  they do anything but sleeping because it's extremely powerful and just aggressive as hell
• 1:23:32
  featuring what is it like. They have a baritone, one on baritone guitar,
• 1:23:39
  one on drums, and one on the vibraphone. And they're just killer
• 1:23:44
  musicians, which could talk for days about I think both metal and jazz actually,
• 1:23:49
  because I know at least the drummer, even Letta, is a big
• 1:23:55
  metal fan. Abra, Yeah he isn't that bad. I didn't know,
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  Yeah, he is in all the bouts. It's I Like to Sleep in
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  one word, right, No, no, no, it's uh in several
• 1:24:14
  it's uh yeah, that's right, pretty cool, awesome. Uh So what
• 1:24:20
  would you guys like to plug? Obviously, you got the new record coming
• 1:24:24
  out at some point. We have a lot of supreme Uh not so far
• 1:24:27
  in the in the in the past year. You plan to roll out the
• 1:24:32
  new album this fall. Uh, do you guys have a title for it
• 1:24:36
  or anything yet? No, we have a we have a preliminary working title
• 1:24:42
  and it's dude Smash because one of our fans from which was a guy from
• 1:24:47
  Turkey, told us that hey, actually in in agaba in in Turkish,
• 1:24:53
  agabas means dude smash. That's the greatest internal joke of the band. So
• 1:25:00
  the brilliant of the record is dude smash. Dude smash. I hope that
• 1:25:05
  becomes the official type. That's gonna be at least put on a shirt.
• 1:25:10
  Yes, that's sick. So we Uh, what else would you guys like
• 1:25:15
  to plug? I'm actually next year I'm going on a on a on a
• 1:25:23
  word world what's it called when you sail across the world? Voyage? Voyage
• 1:25:29
  where I'm gonna be on a sailboat going from Norway to Australia. And uh,
• 1:25:35
  it's to raise money for jazz awareness. We're gonna We're gonna make people
• 1:25:41
  who haven't heard about jazz hear about jazz, which sort of like a missionary
• 1:25:45
  kind of thing. So we're we're we have room for I think fifty people
• 1:25:49
  on the boat, so if anyone would be in joining that, they can
• 1:25:54
  hit me up. Awesome. Well, you know, hopefully you guys aren't
• 1:25:58
  any icebergs and have to have the band continue to play while the ship sinks.
• 1:26:02
  That that would be sick. Actually, that would be That's my favorite
• 1:26:09
  part of the movie Titanic. I hope that doesn't happen. That won't happen
• 1:26:12
  again. It won't happen. Yeah, don't speak that into existence because I
• 1:26:15
  shouldn't. I shouldn't have. I shouldn't have even said it. That's that's
• 1:26:17
  on me. I love it. No, that's a that's a great idea.
• 1:26:21
  I think there needs to be more awareness for jazz and what brings more
• 1:26:25
  awareness and sailing. I love it. I mean, I'm not aware of
• 1:26:30
  most things unless they're you know, there's a sailing effort for it. So
• 1:26:33
  I it's that's pretty much all I ever pay attention to you these days.
• 1:26:40
  Uh Sundra, do you have anything that you'd like to play? Well?
• 1:26:45
  Since Uh Ryan Reynolds did such an awful job with Green Lantern. We have
• 1:26:49
  had the Marvel Studios contact us specifically for really to do a new version of
• 1:26:57
  Green Lantern, except for we're not going to use a ring this time.
• 1:27:01
  It's just going to be me screaming around at people. Uh. And it
• 1:27:06
  will turn into like the Green Power Lantern ring inside my mouth. Uh.
• 1:27:12
  And so it's like a uber ring for your mouth. Yeah, it's like
• 1:27:15
  Anuver ring for my mouth. And no, dude smash, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:21
  it's it's dude smash. It's uh it's Green Lantern. Dude Smash Part
• 1:27:28
  one, the screaming, I love it. How did you get involved with
• 1:27:32
  this? How did how did they find you? How did Marvel say,
• 1:27:35
  hey, we want Sondra? Uh? No, Marvel was at the end
• 1:27:41
  of the barrel. They had drunk themselves away into depression. Uh. And
• 1:27:45
  then suddenly there was somebody who just sent them a picture of us. And
• 1:27:48
  they looked at the crazy man with all the curls and he and they were
• 1:27:54
  like, this is our last hope, this is our should sense. Yeah,
• 1:28:00
  it is homeless. That's that's fine, dude, that's killer. Well,
• 1:28:05
  what a what a fun couple of months you guys have coming up here.
• 1:28:10
  I mean we are cross country voyages or sorry, international voyages. We've
• 1:28:15
  got we've got new albums, We've got Marvel contracts. I mean, you
• 1:28:19
  guys are you guys are living it up right now. You guys are hitting
• 1:28:21
  all on the right keys. Excited for you guys future. Uh, this
• 1:28:28
  is gonna be This is gonna be a fun, fun year for y'all.
• 1:28:30
  Uh, And I'll definitely be paying attention. I know Mason will be as
• 1:28:33
  well, and uh, I think all of our listeners will be. Uh
• 1:28:36
  likewise, So thanks for thanks for coming today. Where you Uh, I'm
• 1:28:45
  in South Dakota. Mason's in Minnesota. Oh really okay, yeah, the
• 1:28:50
  the you know there's a million no regions or former no regions here in Minnesota.
• 1:28:55
  Yeah, that's right, this is your area. They literally have the
• 1:28:59
  Lootifisk Festival about two and a half hours north of me in North Dakota.
• 1:29:03
  So yeah, awesome, we know where to go when we get when we
• 1:29:10
  get to South you'll be among your people for sure. Yeah. It's just
• 1:29:16
  you know, it's basically Norway with walmarts, that's right. Yeah, you
• 1:29:21
  went to school with more guns a little bit more guns. We went to
• 1:29:29
  school with a girl from Minnesota who's actually starting to do really well as an
• 1:29:33
  artist. Now. Her artist name is is Bear just be e R.
• 1:29:38
  I don't know if you've heard of her. Yeah, wait a painter.
• 1:29:44
  Are you sure it's not the h R. That's a very popular world Oh
• 1:29:50
  yeah, Walker Walker Minnesota? Wow? Yeah, yeah, how about that?
• 1:29:56
  That's the Yeah, she's pretty popular. She's got a whole Wikipedia page.
• 1:30:00
  Oh really, Yeah, how about that? You've made it when you
• 1:30:04
  got a Wikipedia page? Yeah? That you that you didn't right yourself,
• 1:30:11
  That's that's the key. Interesting. Well cool. Actually the way I found
• 1:30:15
  you guys was on Instagram reels. A fantastic little video that I watched probably
• 1:30:23
  a thousand times of Mickey Mouse doing his uh firework explosions. Yeah, that
• 1:30:30
  one. That one got me hooked and media elas like, what the hell
• 1:30:32
  is this? Because I got to get in on this. So that yeah,
• 1:30:38
  that memes did that get scrubbed from the internet though, because I can't,
• 1:30:43
  I can't find it anymore? Oh No, I think it should be
• 1:30:46
  there. I looked and I looked and I looked the other day for it
• 1:30:50
  because I was trying to show Mason and I couldn't find it and it was
• 1:30:55
  upsetting me. So I don't know, I don't know know writer this one?
• 1:31:01
  Right? What's the one Mason watch? Is it on your Is it
• 1:31:15
  on your Instagram? Yeah? I think so what's crazy is I literally went
• 1:31:19
  to your Instagram and I was trying to like go through it and I was
• 1:31:21
  trying to show Mason and it wasn't there, and I was like, what
• 1:31:25
  the hell? So I thought maybe I thought maybe the the Slavers over at
• 1:31:30
  Disney maybe got ahold of the video instead, you know, maybe maybe it
• 1:31:32
  shows up different when you because it's a remix with it's another guy's video,
• 1:31:38
  so it would just put our song over it, so it shows up as
• 1:31:41
  a remix of his. So I don't know what gotcha? Probably well,
• 1:31:46
  fellows, thanks a ton for coming on. Uh you know, hopefully someday
• 1:31:49
  we get over to Norway, we'll we'll we'll make our stop and come hang
• 1:31:53
  out with you too. Yeah, definitely do that. That'd be a well,
• 1:31:57
  would having been great. Yeah, sick guy, look that some bed
• 1:32:01
  look up the stom up in your team A team so you're the side cry
• 1:32:08
  go fuck me out? Come Yeah yeah, I got my start, Yes,