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127 He Looked Outside and Saw a Dogman! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one Paul, massive Paul on my front the chield,
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  Speaker 1: and one Paul right above my mirror on the driver's side,
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  Speaker 1: and the driver's side of my car just pushed down,
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  Speaker 1: just the weight of it just puts pushed down, and
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  Speaker 1: the Paul that was on my front windshield, my windshield
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  Speaker 1: started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it.
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  Speaker 3: And then while I was holding it, but it's like the.
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  Speaker 2: Ground underneath me.
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  Speaker 1: Just kind of opened up and I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving, he wasn't blinking, like there was a
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  Speaker 3: complete like just like blankness to his face, like there
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  Speaker 3: was this there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 2: I rubbed my corn of my truck.
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  Speaker 4: I jump out the truck truck, and that's what I
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  Speaker 4: knew it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was this gold Man. There would be a real
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  Speaker 2: low general crowd. One more step and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: be in clear view. And he takes that one more
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  Speaker 2: step and he just it was like he just stepped
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  Speaker 2: behind an invisible curtain and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show, everybody. This is episode one
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  Speaker 3: and twenty seven with the founder of the North American
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  Speaker 3: dog Man Project.
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  Speaker 2: Mister Jody Cook.
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  Speaker 3: Came on and told me some crazy stories, one about
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  Speaker 3: his car being moved and the police like I found
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  Speaker 3: your car after he called them. The D and R
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  Speaker 3: were around it, reaching out to historical society in his
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood about you know what you know what are these
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  Speaker 3: werewolf creaks on this statue And also an incredible story
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  Speaker 3: about you know, one of these dog men possibly most
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  Speaker 3: likely kind of marking its territory.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit creepy.
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  Speaker 3: I'll let Jody go ahead and get into that, so
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  Speaker 3: I keep coming back to the IA Jupiter please me.
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  Speaker 3: at gmail dot com. One more time, THEI of Jupiter
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  Speaker 3: Podcast at gmail dot com, and I'll have you on
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  Speaker 3: the show. So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Jody's a good friend of mine who's been very tentative
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  Speaker 3: to my show, helping me out. So I hope you
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  Speaker 3: guys enjoyed this episode with one mister Jody Cook.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing good?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm okay. Man, It's been a long day and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of tutoring. You wouldn't think
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  Speaker 3: it's tiresome, but when you have to speak two other
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  Speaker 3: languages and help people congregate verbs and pronounce things, you know,
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  Speaker 3: in the American way and fashion, it does get taxing sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: But other than that, man, you know, I'm living to dream.
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  Speaker 3: I work from home and it's pretty cool. How about yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm retired, so I'm good. I'm on my way, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm retired.
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  Speaker 3: I finally got some pretty good news that the military
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  Speaker 3: is actually going to give me some compensation for my back.
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  Speaker 2: So that's going to start the beginning of this month
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  Speaker 2: coming up here. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a battle with him for well, lord,
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  Speaker 3: I think three years to try to get that going,
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  Speaker 3: and it's still not completely done. But there's there's things
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  Speaker 3: in the work, and there's a little bit of light
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  Speaker 3: on the end of the tunnel. So I can see
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  Speaker 3: a chiropractor and one once in a while, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, system to physical therapist in my backwork, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean I get a couple of months stuff
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  Speaker 2: and they're you know, they they work more against you,
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  Speaker 2: I think than they do trying to get you taken
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  Speaker 2: care of. Yeah, they need to do that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I agree that it should be quicker, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there are fronsters out there. I do agree
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  Speaker 3: with that. But at the same time, all you have
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  Speaker 3: to do is just make it a little bit faster
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  Speaker 3: so to people who are in need can get the
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  Speaker 3: assistance that they need. My personal belief, all right, Jodie,
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  Speaker 3: tell everybody. I mean, if people don't know who you
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  Speaker 3: are by now, I'm sure many people do who watched
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  Speaker 3: the show, but for anyone who's the first time here,
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  Speaker 3: please tell us a little bit about yourself, and you
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  Speaker 3: know where we can find you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a founder of the North American dog Man Project.
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  Speaker 2: I've been doing encryptid research probably for about thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: I did take a break and between there I was
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  Speaker 2: doing some paranormal and some uthology stuff, kind of like
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  Speaker 2: break it up a little bit. But my real passion
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  Speaker 2: right now is the dog Man phenomenon. Doing the research
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  Speaker 2: on that and doing field work and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's great. It's it's it's a really good subject. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's the new Cryptid that's getting a lot more notoriety.
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot used to be the big thing, but now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: dog Man stuff is just it's is blowing things up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're getting you know, five thousand views a
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  Speaker 2: month on our wow. Wow. Yeah yeah, people are starting
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  Speaker 2: to come out about it. Yeah. Yeah, So I want
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  Speaker 2: to I wanted to actually tell you about a story
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  Speaker 2: I had on a gentleman the other day. I can't
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  Speaker 2: think of his name right now. It'll come to me
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  Speaker 2: in the second.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: He came on and he he's he's he's.
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  Speaker 3: Also he started with the paranormal and he got into
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  Speaker 3: the cryptid later as I'm seeing it, his whole life and.
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  Speaker 2: Where was it? Which date was that? What day was that? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Matt Harvey, he's from the crypt the deep Woods podcast,
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  Speaker 3: And he was telling me a story about two Air
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  Speaker 3: Force officers. They were off duty. They they knew nothing
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  Speaker 3: about dog Man. It had no idea and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's just not it wasn't on the radar. It's just
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  Speaker 3: something they didn't know about. They were off duty. They
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  Speaker 3: decided their friends, you know, air force pilots, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Take a hike.
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  Speaker 3: So it's outside of Dallas, somewhere is and al skirts
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  Speaker 3: of Dallas, and they take a hike. They they're they're
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  Speaker 3: carrying their side arms with them and they hear this
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  Speaker 3: russell and the bush this thing comes out. They ended
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  Speaker 3: up taking it, taking it down thirty two shots. The
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  Speaker 3: guy came on and told him, you know, all secretive,
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  Speaker 3: you can't say my name. Dot gives sure, I'll protect
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  Speaker 3: you and all that, which is very important. So they
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  Speaker 3: never seen this thing for They actually took some samples,
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  Speaker 3: drugged the thing off the road, and then as they're
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  Speaker 3: coming down off the mountain, two helicopters came in. People
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  Speaker 3: repelled out of the damn out of the helicopters and
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  Speaker 3: they didn't go down to the bottom where the car was.
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  Speaker 3: There was military police waiting for them, and they said
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  Speaker 3: they started threatening them with their careers, and they also
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  Speaker 3: said that you took one of our assets. It's it's
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  Speaker 3: just one of the damnedest stories I've heard. Have you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure of things like this. What can you what
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  Speaker 2: can you say to something like that, Jodie, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, and.
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  Speaker 5: This whole I mean, the you know, these these stories
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  Speaker 5: out there about all these people, you know, having all
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  Speaker 5: these brush you know with federal agents and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you took my asset and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I mean this is me personally. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: my Joe, Jody Fine. I think it's bull crap, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I I've had two, two encounters with the federal
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  Speaker 2: government dealing with dog Man, two of them okay, and
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  Speaker 2: both of them were one hund positive and one you know, beneficial, Okay, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I was never threatened or anything like that, you
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  Speaker 2: know whatsoever you know, by by the federal government. But
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  Speaker 2: like I said, I mean, you know that this whole
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  Speaker 2: thing that you know, dog Man has an asset. I
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  Speaker 2: I can't buy into the fact that the federal government is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, creating these things in a lab and then
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  Speaker 2: putting them out knowing that they're going to take human life. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Now with that being said, I could see the government
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  Speaker 2: weaponizing something for warfare, okay. But I can also see
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  Speaker 2: the federal government, you know, killing people, you know, alive people. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I live people just to see how a product works.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's project mon talk. I mean you name it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh you know the line disease, the Lone Star take.
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  Speaker 3: There's so many little things that we could go into. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they've you know.
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  Speaker 2: To ski governments, I mean all of them they did.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, the thing was, like I said, I
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  Speaker 6: just I just can't you know the fact that you know,
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  Speaker 6: they took this thing out and then all of a
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  Speaker 6: sudden the federal government shows up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I just I have a really
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  Speaker 2: hard time. I mean, you have to say, I've been
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  Speaker 2: doing this for thirty years. I've heard I've heard everything. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. I've heard every aspect of dog Man,
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot and all this other stuff. You know. I hear
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  Speaker 2: all these people that had really bad run ins with
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  Speaker 2: the government. You know, I've never had, you know, I've
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  Speaker 2: never been in that position, like you said, I've had
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  Speaker 2: to you know, face to face you know, with a
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  Speaker 2: government agency. You know about dog Man, and they were
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  Speaker 2: one positive, you know, no threats whatsoever. I mean one
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  Speaker 2: of them actually came to me. Yeah, a dog Man
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've heard this too, Yeah, people doing that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: where they came to me to ask my advice on something,
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  Speaker 2: you know, where they had photograph evidence and things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I you know, after I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: ever heard there's there's the mascare laying between the lakes. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I've heard of it. Yes, all right, there's this guy
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  Speaker 2: came out of freaking nowhere and he came over with
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  Speaker 2: the name Roger where he swore he was an only
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  Speaker 2: survivor of the massacre. Okay, and this guy, this guy
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  Speaker 2: is so convincing. Okay, you can tell he's extremely intelligent individual. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a fake story. Everybody knows it's a fake story.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're listening to it, it convinces you that
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  Speaker 2: he was actually there until you have to stop and realize,
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  Speaker 2: you know, wait minute. You know I've been investigating LBL
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  Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty seven. Wow, and I've talked to witnesses,
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  Speaker 2: you know, law enforcement, you know, guys who said they
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  Speaker 2: were there. And there's I don't know if you remember J. C. Johnson,
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  Speaker 2: Well he was. He passed away probably five years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but he he's like the original investigator on LBL. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this guy knew everybody, He knew everybody at LBL. He
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  Speaker 2: knew the ins and out of what happened on that massacre. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and if there was a survivor, he would know. He
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  Speaker 2: would be the only person that would know. Okay. And
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  Speaker 2: then when we did our LBL documentary, J C. Johnson
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  Speaker 2: was interviewed about LBL, and like I said, he never
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it. No one you know there there I can
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  Speaker 2: say there's probably five people that's got one hundred years
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  Speaker 2: experience together, okay, research on LBL. Okay, five guys, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of them. Okay, and none of us have
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  Speaker 2: ever heard of a survivor. And we had connections and
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  Speaker 2: all this stuff. But and see, ever since that guy
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  Speaker 2: came forward with his story, Okay, I just can't believe
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  Speaker 2: all these other stories, you know, where these people come
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  Speaker 2: in and they talk about, you know, federal government got
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  Speaker 2: me because I killed an asset, you know, or I
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  Speaker 2: hit him with my truck and they come out of
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  Speaker 2: nowhere and you killed my asset. I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: too hard to swallow. You know. I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 2: calling anyone a liar, but I just there's there's don't
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  Speaker 2: be as a BS artist, Okay is the best way,
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  Speaker 2: the best way to say, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Which is difficult to discern, Jody, it's difficult to discern.
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  Speaker 3: I mean if you have a show like mine where
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  Speaker 3: I say, for example, there's somebody on here and I'm
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  Speaker 3: just even if I'm one hundred percent dead set and
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  Speaker 3: the person lying to me, then I just won't release
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  Speaker 3: that episode. But there's somebody where it's kind of on
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  Speaker 3: the fence for me, I'm not going to call them
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  Speaker 3: out on the show because there's people who really do
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  Speaker 3: have experiences who will then be afraid to come forward,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So it's kind of like a it's a
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  Speaker 3: very awkward position to be in as.
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  Speaker 2: A host of a show like this. Well, one thing
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  Speaker 2: I learned from investigating Okay, everybody embellishes the story okay
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  Speaker 2: to a point, not full mbellishit, but just hearing there okay.
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  Speaker 2: And they keep changing the story a little bit each
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  Speaker 2: time they tell it. Okay. It's not meaning that they're lying,
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  Speaker 2: it's just they're finding a correct word that makes it
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  Speaker 2: sound more interesting. Okay. Now, when you get people like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the story about these two guys that shot it,
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  Speaker 2: and people are repelling from helicopters and stuff like that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe there was a helicopter. Maybe they did get confronted
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  Speaker 2: by somebody. Okay, maybe you know, the conversation dealt with
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  Speaker 2: the discharging of the weapons. Okay, that all might be true,
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  Speaker 2: But they just kind of like threw in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, even like whether we like it or not,
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  Speaker 3: you know, until there's like some type of like you know,
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  Speaker 3: irreputable scientific evidence. Uh we even know that through police
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  Speaker 3: you know, situations why people can see the same.
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  Speaker 2: Thing happen and have different accounts, right, I mean, these
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  Speaker 2: things exist. I see them. I know, I know they exist. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and when people say they see them, I I I
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  Speaker 2: believe them because I know they exist. Okay. But what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying is is I just I guess it's because,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, my two encounters that I had with
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  Speaker 2: the federal government, you know, we're positive. Doesn't mean I
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  Speaker 2: guess that my next one may not. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: but like I said, I you know, we we get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of good stuff. Okay, Yeah, and there's stuff
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  Speaker 2: we don't release and the stuff that we do release,
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  Speaker 2: but we just never got to the point where we
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  Speaker 2: had threats or our stuff was compromised or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: You know. In my opinion, I think why they're not
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  Speaker 2: screwing with us is because we're gathering the information for them. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're not. We're not doing it for them for them,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, they see us what we're doing, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're monitoring what we're doing and they're able
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  Speaker 2: to see what we have. So basically we're doing their
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  Speaker 2: job for them, and I guess that's why they're they're
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  Speaker 2: not screwing with us. Okay, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I had another gentleman come on and uh he was
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  Speaker 3: known in the area as a fisherman and the hunter
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  Speaker 3: and a DNR came up to him and said, man,
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  Speaker 3: we need to talk to you, and they couldn't. They
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't say it, you know what I mean. They were
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  Speaker 3: kind of like, there's a thing that we know that
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  Speaker 3: you kind of know about, and we want you to
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  Speaker 3: come out and look at some stuff. And it was
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  Speaker 3: pretty incredible. There was like a horse situation and so
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  Speaker 3: but they were very positive. So what do you know
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  Speaker 3: about this? He's like, what do I know about what?
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  Speaker 3: And they kind of had to kind of play this
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  Speaker 3: cat and mouse game, but it wasn't an overall negative experience.
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  Speaker 3: It was more like, hey, what do you know about this?
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  Speaker 3: And he was just kind of like, I can't really
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  Speaker 3: tell you. So it's one of those things too where
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  Speaker 3: and it's a DNR is kind of low level government,
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  Speaker 3: I guess you would say. But nonetheless, you know, for
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  Speaker 3: safety and you know, you know, all those kind of
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  Speaker 3: things they wanted to know, and it was it was
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  Speaker 3: quite an interesting tale, But there is I have heard
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  Speaker 3: other people who said things where it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, things happen. I've been there's you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: freaking black truck out in front of my damn thing,
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  Speaker 3: and they've written me you know, and I just go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I've had that before. I mean, before my two
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  Speaker 2: encounters with with the federal government. I've had black ass
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  Speaker 2: uv sit out in front of my house at night. WHOA,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy though, though it's crazy, isn't it? Isn't it? Well?
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  Speaker 2: You know, here, here's here's one incident, uh, Mike, I
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  Speaker 2: was leaving for VA one morning. Okay, now it is
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  Speaker 2: my male German shepherd, one hundred and fifty five pounds,
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  Speaker 2: huge dog, not afraid of anybody. Okay, God gotcha buddy.
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  Speaker 2: So our couches up against a large bay windows. So
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  Speaker 2: he gets up on the couch so he looks out, okay,
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  Speaker 2: barks at anybody that walks by. You know, this is
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  Speaker 2: my neighborhood. What are you doing here? Type til yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So I go out start the car. I realized I
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  Speaker 2: left my wallet. Okay, you know, uh, pull the my
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  Speaker 2: house key off, leave the car running because it was
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  Speaker 2: a cold morning. Walk into my house. My dog is
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  Speaker 2: looking sitting on the couch looking out the big bay window.
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  Speaker 2: I walk in from the living room into the kitchen,
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  Speaker 2: grab my wallet, walk back into the living room. My
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  Speaker 2: dog is literally on the freaking ground, just literally on
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  Speaker 2: the ground like this, the cowering, cowering, Yeah, literally cowering. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, you know, get up. What's wrong
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  Speaker 2: on all this other side? My car is gone. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: my car is gone. I'm like, oh crap, what my car?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So I'm embarrassed, right, So I got to call the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: police now, Okay, So I called the police, and you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: no one could show up because there is a active
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: shooter situation going on and all the police were over there. Okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: we'll get back to that part in a minute. So
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: think about nine o'clock. This is like seven thirty in
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the morning. So they show up at night and the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: cop goes, you know, okay, what happened. I said, listen,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I know I left the keys in the car. I
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: was only for like a second and it was gone. Okay,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: And he goes, what kind of car? You got to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: explain to him? You know what kind of car I had?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And he goes, I saw that this morning, and he goes,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I think I know where it is. Come with me.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: So I'm in the backs of the street police car
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: going down the street two miles down the road. Our
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: our street's like two miles long, okay, and there's my
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: car sitting off the side of the road with the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: keystell in it. And he goes, you know, when we
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: had this active shooter this morning, I was in the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: neighborhood and I drove by and I saw your car
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: there with a DNR vehicle and being our guy standing
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: around a car. So I didn't think anything of it,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I just waved at him. They waved back, okay.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So you know, was it them that took my car?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You know? And I'm thinking, yeah, they probably took my
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: car and I and but here here's the thing. My
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: dog would have went off, okay, and he didn't, and
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: he was cowering, and I was doing a little bit
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: of research and I know, and I found out that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the Department of Agriculture US fours says a device that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: puts off sound where they can push bears back and
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: push wolves back. No one can hear it except for them.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: It's just so much of a high pitch and like
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: put some phrases more or less. And I'm like, man,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: that's probably what they did to my dog. They had
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: a device, they turned it on. My dog went down.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And because it's like I said, it's strange. My dog
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: did not go off because I like, I'm telling you,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: anybody walks down the street, he is going back crack crazy. Okay.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And when this situation happened, you know, it was weird.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if I told you the story,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: but kind of went let up to that incident was
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: there was a report of a dog man over at
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the park across the street from where I live. Okay,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: so talk to the witnesses. They took me over. They
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: showed me where this back trail, where this deer comes
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: up from the river, runs across the trail and this
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: dog man just runs, i mean just totally ignores them
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and the dog they had. Now, the dog sent it
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: first because the dog was acting crazy and the dog
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: man kind of like ran after the deer. Okay, so
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: they took off. So they took me up to the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: day after the siding. Now how I found about that,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: you know about the side, and he was, we have
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a statue at the end of her street, which is
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a fountain with a Native American on it because of
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the tribe that used to live there. And on the
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: fountain there's faces on each side that's a werewolf's face,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: which is really odd. And this was like put there
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties. Okay, okay, so yeah it's really odd.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: So I called a historical society and said, hey, can
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you tell me you know why this fountain has werewolf's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: faces on and they're like, we don't know. Everybody keeps asking,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and she goes, maybe there's werewolves and I'm like, yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it could be, and she goes, you know, why are
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you asking? I said, well, this is what I do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: And my best friend yesterday was walking with her husband
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and dog and they seen this werewolf over at the park.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I said, you got to put me in contact with them.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: So I got in contact with them, and they, like
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you said, they took me over there. So and they said, look,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: this is where it happened, this is where it came up,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: that's where it went. We're leaving. I'm like, okay, that's fine.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I found two really beautiful tracks. One is large
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: like a hand, you know, it's just just you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: four important fingers and but it but it really looks
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: like a hand with the thumb. It's really odd looking
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and a regular back paul. And so I made castings
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: of them. Okay, So I had to go to the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: bathroom really bad in the bathroom so like way way
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: at the other end of the s and you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I so no one was around, so I took a leak.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Right now, I've got chronic kidney disease. Okay, So I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: only have one kidney. Okay, I didn't know this and
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and until my injury in Iraq that I only had
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: one kidney. So I got the casts and you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I went home. So the next day, my wife is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: leaving for work at five in the morning, she calls
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: me she says, because I take my dog out the walk.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: She says, if you go out, you know, walking Max,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you know, let me know if you see all those
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: SUVs blocking the entrance to the park, they're blocking both terances. WHOA.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, yeah, so I walked Max. We
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: you know, we we see them. And that was kind
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of it. So the next day I get out and
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I walking my dog. Okay, Now we get out, went
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: down the front yard, you know, walked up to where
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the next house is, and he stops and he's just
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: looking straight ahead. Now the street kind of goes like this,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and then it bears off, you know, to the left, okay,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and there's like a kind of a house that's just
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: kind of like right there in the middle where it
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: kind of bears off, and there's like a really large
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: tree there. And this car goes by and his lights
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: break lights come on, and the headlights come on, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you see this like dark object like right there by
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the tree, and then you see him just haul but
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but okay, he just yeah, if he went from break
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to just he saw what was there. So Max wouldn't
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: go any further, okay, and he kept wanting to go
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: back to the house and like, I'm like, dude, what
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: is wrong with you? You're not afraid of anything, you
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: know what is wrong? So for about three maybe four days,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: he would not leave the yard when we would go
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: for our walks in the morning. I mean, he would
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: not leave when he when I would put him out
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: at night, he wouldn't go unless I was out there
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: with him. So something spooked him so bad, okay, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: whatever it was down there, I don't know what it was. Okay.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So one morning my wife left and it was probably
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: about a half hour later. Max is at the bay
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: window and he's going nuts. I mean he's going freaking nuts,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: you know. I look out, I don't see anything. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: open the front door, I don't see nothing and stuff,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and he's just growling, sitting there at the bay window, growling.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So like I said, I don't see anything. So I said,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you know, just relax, you know, big good dog. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: want to lay down. So I laid down, and I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: got up and I wanted to go get you know,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. And I think I was getting
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: ready to go to VA that day too. And when
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I walked out and I noticed on my car on
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the upper part of the door towards the roof, there
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: was a pall print with claws like a dog's paul
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: print like right there on because it was I guess
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: it was still kind of cold and you know where
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: you have like the moist and stuff on your Yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and the print was like right there, okay, And something
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: took a leak on the hood of my car on
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: like yeah, because it ate the paint off. What the
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: urine ate the paint off the yeah, the urinate urine? Yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: paint off my breaking car. Like that's cruizy, like two
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: days later and stuff. And you know, I got this
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: picture of this, like you know, fingers with these claws,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: you know, on my car, And you know, I'm sitting
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: there and this is me thinking, you know, this thing
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: what was seeing over at the park was probably watching
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: me what I was doing. I urinated. I thought I
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: was weak because of my yearn and was able to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: pick my sin up and and come to where my
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: house is, okay, And I was in and he was
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in the neighborhood there, and he kept coming in the neighborhood.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But here's the weird part of it. People kept seeing
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: a wolf in the neighborhood okay. And two days after
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the incident on the pall print, the lady from the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Historical Society called me.
• 30:35
  Speaker 7: And says, did you hear the news? I'm like no,
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: they said the d n R killed a wolf. I'm
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: like a wolf wolf?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: What state are you in? I'm in Ohio? And we
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: we've got coyotes, yeah, you know and stuff, but you
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: know we we don't have we don't have wolves here, right,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: we got coyotes, we got coy dogs, you know. But yeah,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it was it was weird.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Did you ever call the DNR about your car? And
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I would be remiss if I didn't ask that. You know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the policeman said he's seen him standing by the car. Well,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: here's Mike.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. And the thing of it is they
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: would have denied it anyhow, Okay. They would have said, oh, yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: we were in a neighborhood, you know, we were out
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: looking for something. We just happen to stand by your car,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: but we didn't see who took it. You know, the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: police would not even come out. I talked to a
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: police detective about it, because you know, I filed a report,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: but the police detective would not even come out to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: do fingerprints or anything. I'm like, are you kidding me? Yeah,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: nothing was taken from the car, you know, but it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a site. You know, why wouldn't you want to do fingerprints.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's the system, you know. But get back
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to what I was saying earlier about, you know, these
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: people having these strange you know, encounters and stuff like that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: You know, the government does screw with you, and they
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: will screw with you. But when when they talk about
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: when they use the word asset, Okay, that's a buzzword.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: It's like a buzzword for you, it's a buzzword for me,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: you know, and and stuff, because I don't think these
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: things are assets. I think they I think they know
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: what it is. They know it's an Athens predator, but
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just I just have a really
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: hard time.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Fair enough, man, I understand, I understand. I mean, there's
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with healthy skepticism. Let's get every thing out there,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: all the cards on the table.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, what people don't realize, and you're going to find
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: a lot on researchers they're not skeptic at all. You
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: have to you have to be skeptic because like when
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I when I have something, Okay, I have to think
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: about Okay, if there was a cryptid court and I
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: had to present my evidence, could I persuade that jury?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: That's an interesting point of view. I love that, right,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and that and that's the way you have You have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to look at it, okay, and and and that's what
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: makes you know a good researcher. I'm not an expert.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I'm far from being an expert because I'm still learning.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: But you know, you have to be you know, sixty
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: seventy percent skeptic when you go out in the field,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: of course, you know, and when when you do research, and.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: There has to be some type of scientific rigord to
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: what you're doing. I mean, experiences are experience. As you
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: go out there, you see something that's supposedly not supposed
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: to exist. This it's kind of like a fear thing.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: And then of course the mind starts making things to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: try to rationalize what you see and all these kind
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: of things. But if you're a person who was just
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: interested in it and devotes her time to it, I
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: agree with what you're saying. How how if you were
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to try to persuade somebody, of course, the scientific method
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: would be what you use I understand that. Yeah, if
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you don't mind, Joey, Jody, Let's let's make a little
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: bit of a left turn here. Let's get into your
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: other interests, you athology and paranormal research. What can you
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: tell me about what you've been doing or what you've experienced?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: God, you know you followed you was like the very
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: first thing I got into. Okay, I was really into it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I spoke with a lot of different people who were abducted,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: people who have had a lot of sightings and you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: things like that. I really fell and fell in love
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: with it. But it was but you have to say,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: this is like pre Internet and things like that, so
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: you actually had to actually do work and research, go
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to the library, newspaper articles, you know, research on getting
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: you know, someone's name out of the phone book and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: find out the right Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that was that was That was that was research, and
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting and I really loved it.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: You know, we had this TV show that we did
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: called UFO Update Live, okay, and it was on Public
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Access TV. And this was before cable. Ah, that is cool, man. Yeah,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: this is back in the eighties and you know, early nineties. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and it ran for for about ten years and we
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: had it was the first Wednesday of every month. Yet
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: we had a guests on there or two and you
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: could call in and asked the guest question and so,
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: I mean it was it was fun and you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: just you learned so much and you're able to get
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: a whold of you know, a lot of people and
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: get your contacts and you know, get the the research
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: done the way it really needed to be done. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: that's where I from that show. That's how I fell
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: into the cryptid stuff because we're getting a lot of cryptocide.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: He's mostly bigfoot and so forth, and I kind of,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: you know, went towards that and like, oh, this is
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: something to me. Still did the uthology stuff. I was
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: putting so much time into the big foot stuff. You know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: I got so far away from the uthology stuff, you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and you know, the bigfoot stuff was really fun. The
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: field really turned into a click and a buddy system
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and things like that. And then I had a friend
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: that was a paranormal investigator says, hey, you know what,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: you want to go something with me? And you know
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: that was fun. You know. We went to South Pittsburgh
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Hospital and Tennessee. It was an old, abandoned hospital that
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: had so much paranormal activity there. It was nuts because
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: my first you know, nightcare, okay, that we were doing investigation.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: We were up on I guess it was the third floor,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and I got my recorder and I'm just walking down
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you know, you know, the hall, and you know they
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: had all the old banding rooms and everything, and I
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: just happened to look over to my left and there's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a room with two beds, and I'm walking kind of fast,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit right, and I just glanced as I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: was just getting past the door, and I saw a
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: little girls sitting on the bed. I believe you, buddy.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I had pirenormal experiences too, man, I've had
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: parallel experiences, and I think most people have. Not everybody
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: or they had them, they'll talk about them. Those those
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: things are are so weird, man.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Please, I I those said I don't believed dog man
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: or Bigfoot. I do because of my paranormal experiences. But
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: when you say that to me, due absolutely.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because you know, and when I went back
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: to look, there was a white mist where she was.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: So I grabbed my camera and I'm snapping and this
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: white miss just went and the shape of a child
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: just went, you know, across to the other bed and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: like came like right towards me. Okay, Yeah, So at
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the time, I had my recorder on and I don't
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: hear anything, but I go back listen to my recorder.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: At the time all that was happening. You hear her
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: sing and tap down the hallway like hot like skip.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: It was like, man, are you freaking any me? Dude.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I was on my ranch. I never told you this.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I bought ten acres out here in the jungle man
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: and there was a night. There was two nights, but
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: the one in the ticket I want to talk about.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: I was in my hammock outside. I had this little
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: it's it's just a little room basically, and I added
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: on like a summer kitchen and a little bathroom in
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: a place where I can hang my hammock with mosquito
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: netting around it in the middle of the jungle jungle
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: here and.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: The Yucatan Peninsula.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Uh, there's a lot of paranormal down here, especially in
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the Yucatan. And I was sitting there one night, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be I'm not you know, you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: you know, crocodile, dundee or nothing. But I get up
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom in the morning, and about three
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: in the morning, and I look over and I see
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: the snake inside of the cabin. On one of the
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: logs that I used to support this wall that I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: made had a corrugated metal, and I look over. There's
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: a snake sit sitting there eating ants.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's poisonous. You know, I'm not
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: from here, so I just took my machete and I
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: just took care of it.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: My daughter's not that far away. My ex wife is
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: over there, you know, I'm not. It's only literally ten
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: feet from me. I'm like this, you know whatever. I
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: go to lay back down in the hammock, so it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: mosquito netting around me. On the behind me, there's that
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: corrugated metal and then more's mosquito netting, and you can
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: see the rest of my property. And I'm sitting there, Jodie,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: and I was about to go to sleep, and I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: just something told me to look over and on the
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: wall where that stink was, there's this bluish white like circle,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: not an orb but like a circle on the wall,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: like someone was shining a flashlight through a fish tank.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: It's the best way I can describe it. It's like
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: kind of squickly. And then my brain just said, okay,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: someone shining a flashlight, where's the source coming from. I
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: look down because it looks like it's coming from the floor,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: and then I don't see it. I look back up
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and it's gone. So I'm like, this is weird. And
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: so I'm trying to go back to sleep, and about
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Ten minutes later, have a long tation tokick.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I'm almost asleep, and behind me, outside of Mosquito, anything
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: about thirty yards away, I hear disembodied voices like not English,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: not Spanish.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Not German.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: These I know the syntax of those, but it was female,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: and it was weird. It was kind of like this,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: and I just said, you know, hey, are not here
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: to harm you, don't harm me. I'm here to protect
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: the land and take care of it. Don't bother me.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Because they have a there's some Mayan rituals down here
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: that they use to make these little like cherup like entities,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: like spirits that protect the corn and the land here.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what it was, and after that
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I haven't had any issues. But for me, the scariest
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: thing I'd rather see an apparition, which I have one
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: time going from an island kitchen island into a wall
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: at a friend's house here. That didn't bother me as much.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I've seen the hat man one time. That didn't bother
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: me as much. But the hear those voices that when
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: people experience the paranormal like, it's a hard thing for
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: somebody who hasn't to understand how weird it is. And
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: uh and so when you're telling me that you see
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: those things, it hits personal with me because of my experiences.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: So when you said you see to hear that that
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that is legit to me, and I know it is. Yeah,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, the paranormal stuff is really fun, it really is.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: We end up doing this this bar, no, let me
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: rephrase it. It was it's.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: An art studio that was a brothel, okay, and.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Well it was a bar, but you know it was
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: a bar brothel. But now it's like the downstairs and
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: upstairs of the worlds uh art studios and stuff like that.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So were I'm in the room, there's two female ghosts
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: investigators and I'm in the room with them, okay, and
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I'm standing up against the wall and they're just trying
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to contact one of the girls. And I'm not kidding.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, across my heart a hand just went like this,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, face. I was like, and I smell the perfume. Yeah,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: and the girls smell the perfume and stuff. I said, somebody,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: somebody just put their hand across my face like that. Yeah,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: And they said, uh. They asked, like, you know, who
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: was it that that did this? And it came up
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: with a name. You know, this woman's name come up
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and they said, why did you do that? And and
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: they're on a ghost box, right, okay, and the ghost
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: came ghost box came back as because I want.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Him, right, So the Lady of the Knights is doing
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: her yeah, residual.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do not go home with me. Do not go
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: home because you were not allowed to.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I was a dude when I had pulled the guys
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: encounter when I was eight and I was laying on
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: my bend. There's a space between the wall and the
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: bed there, you know, for like molden shit, and there's
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a lot there's a door slam in my face, lights
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: and suff but I had that similar thing where it
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: felt like a hand reached up and I swear to God,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Jody put it square on my chest. At ate, I
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: jumped out of that bed, literally like Wiley coyote just jumped.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: It is so surreal. And recently I had my shirt
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: tugged on in the middle of the street here in
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Mexico when I was standing at a liquor store getting
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: a six pack. Like I was sitting there next to
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: my girlfriend. There's a guy to my right about two
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: feet away, two three feet away from me. She standing
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: next to him. Hey, take you know, put the money
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: back in a while, and I'm getting it. And it
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: felt like it literally it felt like a little girl
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: or something just grab on my shirt and just tugged
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: it twice, and I go, did you touch me? No,
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: it is a weird thing, man, And and uh, there
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: is just no I would just say, like, you know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: a scientific method or scientific explanation for things like that,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: but they are real, dude.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's weird because the house we live and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: when we first bought it, like if you stand at
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: the top of the steps looking down into the basement,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: you see like an outline of a human and a dog.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. But when you go down and look
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: at it, you can't see it, but you can only
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: see it when.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: You're at the top of the steps, right, makes sense
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: to me, dude, Yeah, like what is it?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: So we talked to the neighbor. The neighbor said, yeah,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: this guy would always get a dog, and all of
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a sudden, the dog's gone, and then he ends up
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: with a new dog, you know. Yeah, and weird, yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: and then he ends up dying, you know, and it's
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: just weird. I mean, but you can't see it now,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: But for like three years you were, you were able
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: to see this outline of a man laying there and
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: the dog playing there was I mean, we would have
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: people over and say what do you see and there.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: Like a dog you like a dinner party trick.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it, yeah, we had every time we
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: have someone over and we say, hey, what do you
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: see down there? And you know, but like you said,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it's at the point where you know, it's literally gone now.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: But Max would dig in the yard and you know,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: you find like all these bones, you know, just like
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: little ones about this big you know, and stuff. It's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: just like, dude, you need to stop. God forbid you
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: dig a body of her. You know.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I want to trip here with a guy. He goes, hey, man,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: you want to come with me. I noticed a place
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: where there's an old hucienda where they used to make
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: rope out of vines and stuff. Here and there's an
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: old church and a pyramid. I was like, shit, you
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: got me due to pyramid. Let's go. So we went there.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: We checked out nothing. He takes me to this church, right,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: this old church. The roof is caved in, right, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: he goes, you see these blocks. They stole this from
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: the pyramid down the road. This is all in Spanish.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I go, yeah, okay. We walk into this church under
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the altar. It's an old concrete floor and you see
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: where the floor is broken up. I swear to God
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: Jody in the floor you can see rib cage bones
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and female bones. And he goes, I go and I
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: asked him, okay, first of all, I got to get
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: out of here. And I said, hey, I'm not here
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: to disrespect you know. I say this out loud in English.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not here to respect anybody. This is where your
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: resting place. Says I'm out of here. Okay, no, disrespect man.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: When you get out of there, I asked him, I go,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: what's that all about? He goes, Yeah, in the old days,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: the church was such a big thing here that people
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: wanted to feel closer to God by being buried under
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the altar.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I think we go later to a pyramid and like
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: off the meat beaten path, and you can see where
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: they took the stones off some of the little ones,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: and it's a it's such a it's such. It's one
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: of those places, Jody. I I can either con I
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: can either confirm or deny that all my actual property
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: there are Mayan ruins. Like I'm it's like a circle
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: that's flat. It's on a ridge top on my property.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: It comes down flat spot circle. We got to report.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: You know what? Like a pud wedgie is, Yes Mound
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: State Park in Indiana. Okay, he has a lot of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: sightings or the pud wedgies, right, And if you go
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: into the park, the Native American tribe that was in
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: that area put these they're like I don't know, ten
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: twenty different monuments there over there. I can't remember, like
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: little mounds or something. Though. Yeah, they're they're to scare
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: off the pud wedgies and apparently it's not working, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I mean we we we had a report as you
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: know late as you know, November of last year. You know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: one of the employees driving in and you know, they
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: see these little things on the side of the road
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: and they're running, you know, and you know, people are
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: talking about their tents getting set on fire, and they're
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: you know, they see their you know, personal stuff being
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: pulled you know, running you know, and the grass and
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: stuff in these little creatures, and then described them as
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: like little people, you know.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: Like what size? Yeah, like what size? Like what fall
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: right around about foot tall? Oh that's even smaller than here.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: They have a thing called Alucia's which I was referring
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: to earlier. And there's so many stories of these things here.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: So they have these larger properties here, and there's a
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: lot of caves here. It's a limestone out crop. That's
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: what the Yucatana is. There's no rivers, it's all on
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: the ground. That's these sons where they go swimming and
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: stuff to turists. And so there's a lot of these
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: caves here and they kept there was it was a
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: guy's uncle and his friend. They were in the backyard
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: and they kept hearing something. And it's like a half
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: acre piece of property that's like kind of narrow, maybe
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you know, forty feet across, but it goes back a
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: long way and he goes, yah, there's a cave back there.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: He goes, they kept hearing something. He just check this out.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: He gets a little glass, puts a little beer in, it,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: takes cigarette lights, it puts it next to the thing.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: He said, this thing came out sip. The bear started
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: smoking a cigarette. The dude freaked out. Left. And there's
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: a thing that happens when you see these things, where
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: people actually get like fevers and stuff. Some people actually
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: perish from it. Like this is not like a This
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: is not like oh once. This is like a very
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: common occurrence here that I've heard many times. There's this
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: cemetery here that you can go to. It's about half
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: hour away. It's called Pomuch, and it happens it's not Halloween,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: but it's a day after. It's called the Deal to
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: this delos Mus, the day of the Dead, which you
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: might might have heard of before. They will take their
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: their loved ones out of the cemetery, out of the
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: out of their crips and tombs, clean them off. If
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: they have hair and fingernails and other things. They're go, oh,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: that's great because the family member will stick around and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: they put them out in a box candles, put some
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: food up, put some beer up, and I'll have a
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: party of the cemetery and you, as a tourist can
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: go around and see all their family members. This place
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: is it's it's it's one of those places.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm and.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I'm here, man, I don't know, I don't know. There's
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: things I have plans, I have plans. What it used
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: to be, man, you know in the old days. You remember,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: is uh the death photos that he used to do
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: in eighteen hundreds. We had some weird stuff too that
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: we did, you know, because the Mayans.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Used to leave their their their their.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: You know, their their their their family members after they
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: perish out for like the buzzards and crows, and the
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: Spanish coup said you can't do that, dude, and then like, okay,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: after three years, can we take them out? They were like, yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: you can do that. But so uh, that's why there's
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: this mixture of like Catholicism and this you know, ancient
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: you know, Native American, which of the Mayans are uh,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: like cultures mixed together and you get a lot of weirdness.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of like witch doctors and everyone every
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: other person hears a witch.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's uh, it's weird. I'm sure it is.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: But I enjoy it.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Man, I enjoy it because it's always been an interest
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: in mine because of my experiences. But uh, this uh
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: these cryptis man.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: I have so someone knows that I'm into this.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: This is what I do. This is you know, uh
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: doing this podcast. And she was like, hey, check out this.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Check this out. So it was a Facebook post and
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: it's about an hour and a half away from me.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: And I've been on this road before. This person said.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I was riding on a motorcycle with my son. We're
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: headed to this town called a Skarsaga, and uh, I
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: was on the side of the highway because there's the
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: eighteen wheler. It's like a two lane road, but it's
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: basically a highway and they will literally run you over here.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: So I'm on the side kind of putting along and
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: I see this thing and it scared the hell out
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: of me. And it was like a huge dog kind
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: of weird creature and this is the only picture I
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: can find that kind of represents and it was an
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: AI version.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Of a dog band oh yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: And then underneath that people were writing, oh yeah, I've
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: seen this, I've seen this here there at the power
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: plant here, and I was like, the power plant and
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: where I live, Dude, that's fifteen minutes from here. Yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: so that's uh. I was like, whoa, they're here too.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. We we talked without a couple of guys
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: from the US Border Patrol m that have seen these
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: things along the border, and you know, they're like you
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: you stay away from them. You stay away from them.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: You know they're there, they'll kill you. And one of
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: them said, you know, they they found immigrants that were
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: coming across the border that we're just just mangled. Yeah, yeah,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: you know by these things you know that I haven't
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: heard yet. I would love to talk to one of
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: those agents. Yeah. Yeah, they're they're real. They're real, I
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: can imagine, because you know, they know these things, you know,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: are down there. There's one particular part of the border
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: where there's a lot of heavy activity and a lot
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: of the immigrants that come over will not come over
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: through this area anymore because they know about it. You
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: won't tell me where, what part of the border it is,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: but he said, I can tell you this. We put
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: a large concentration of you know, personnel in this particular area.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Now you know where. It's a permanent station, you know. Yeah.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Just imagine you know a bunch of prehab buildings just
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: showing up overnight in an area, right, Okay, it was
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: So yeah, oh okay, I got you all right, read reading.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: So when they do their patrols at night, most most
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: agents are all by themselves. Okay, it's only one. They
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: do two at night in this particular area. Oh okay,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I got you. I got you. Well, one one of
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: the I mean I knew one agent. I knew him
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: personally because way way back, you know, we were both
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: humane officers here in the city. Okay, and he ended
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: up leaving to take a job with the Border Patrol.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: So he's been at the Border Patrol probably going on
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: thirty five years. I mean, he was young enough that
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: you know where he went on and he's still there.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: You know. He said, they're not gonna get rid of me,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: you know, he goes, I I have over I have
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: over my twenty. I have over my thirty and you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere. He loves the job. He loves Yeah,
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: he's kind of he's kind of up there and stuff.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: But he was the one that was kind of told
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: me about what was going on down down there, you know,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: because we kept talking. He knows what I do. And
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: it's like, dude, you're not gonna believe some of this
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: stuff that you know, these things that that are down
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: there and stuff. Their dog men, you know, they know
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: what they are. He've seen them. Everybody have seen them.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And they're like when you see them, if you're going
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: down and you see him, you turn the other way.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: If you can, well, do not do not go mean,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: because they'll they'll see it as a challenge. Right.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Jodey we were almost an hour in. I
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: want you to talk a little bit about the North
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: one more more time. First, Buddy, I had you in
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: the first time. Could you tell us a little bit
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: about the North American dog Man Project It's purpose and
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: what it's here to serve or what it does.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, North American dog Man Project. We are and and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and I'm not bragging, we're like the largest dog man
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: research organization out there. You know, we we we're our
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: website and the top hunter, which is that's crazy, which
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: is I mean, what's weird? Go Daddy said, you know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: you get more activity than some of the porn sites.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: This is a family show. Well, I know, but I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: thought that was funny. Okay, that was funny that they
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: said that. But yeah, we you know, we collect a
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  Speaker 2: lot of data. We we have a analysis group, got
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  Speaker 2: information and kind of figures out how how to set
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  Speaker 2: it up on you know, side, through the seasons, you know,
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  Speaker 2: through time through like police, military, civilian, and like I said,
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  Speaker 2: if if you had a siding you you want to
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  Speaker 2: follow a report, go on our website w w W
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  Speaker 2: North American dog Man Project dot com. Fill the report out.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a question, you just want to ask
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  Speaker 2: a basic question, go to yeah right there. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 2: email which is n A d P Questions at hotmail
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  Speaker 2: dot com. Send us a question if you interested, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go scream, go up the page a little bit. I'm
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  Speaker 2: at the top, Joey, No, scroll down. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The front page there, that's like just basic information and
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  Speaker 2: we have some really good stuff that's on the front
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  Speaker 2: page there. If you scroll down. Yeah, this like, we
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  Speaker 2: have some stuff that came out in Michigan. Here Jen Jacobs,
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  Speaker 2: the wonderful Jacobs. I've had her on fantastic And it's
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  Speaker 2: a kind of like a little slide show which is
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  Speaker 2: really good. And then we have these local police officers
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  Speaker 2: that had sidings. Yeah, kind of a slide show there. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: this is the land between the Lakes. This is one
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  Speaker 2: of our best that we have. There's this group of
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  Speaker 2: individuals that were out doing an investigation and they caught
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  Speaker 2: this creature on thermal camera. And if you can see,
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  Speaker 2: it's holding a young one. Yes, yes, you can see
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  Speaker 2: it clear. And what's unique, like stay stay still for
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  Speaker 2: a minute. Yes see how I go up a little
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  Speaker 2: bit so you can see, no, the other way, keep
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  Speaker 2: going right there? Now? You know, like how you have
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  Speaker 2: a child and the child's backed up against you and
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  Speaker 2: you pick the child up. What's the child do? The
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  Speaker 2: child brings its knees in right? Oh yeah, okay, And
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly what that little one's doing there. It's bringing
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  Speaker 2: its knees in. So this is a Type three which
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  Speaker 2: is canine looking, but the legs are more human than
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  Speaker 2: they are like a typical dog. Or a wolf, whether
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  Speaker 2: they're not backwards and you can see on here how
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  Speaker 2: that is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Now you can become a member as you can
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  Speaker 3: see here, it's uh member. You can go over here
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  Speaker 3: and reach out people, said North American dog Man Project NAPD.
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  Speaker 3: It's made up of volunteers in many states of the
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  Speaker 3: continental United States and growing. The majority of its members
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  Speaker 3: Our team is available whenever needed. Go over and check
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  Speaker 3: it out, guys. The North American Dogman Project dot com. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Jodi Jody oh as always been. I thank you very
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  Speaker 3: much for coming on today. You are you are, You're
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  Speaker 3: helping out trying to figure out what this thing is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: or what these things are as many different types, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want people.
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  Speaker 2: We want people to.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: Step up, talk, try to talk to each other, try
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: to figure out what it is because in Ian we're
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: trying to protect our loved ones as well as ourselves.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: So I appreciate it so very much as you came
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: on to talk with me today. Of course, anytime anybody
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: you want to reach out and come on and talk
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: to me, you can go ahead and send him my way, man,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: and I'll.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Be more than Yeah. I sent you a few people,
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  Speaker 2: and I've had them on. I've had them on.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them said no, but it happens, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and it's all good man, Jodie, thank you so very
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: much for coming about alright, you guys, remember we are
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are aware.
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  Speaker 3: I love you all and enjoy the rest of your day.