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The Crawl Space Murder: The Search for KJ Beam · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: Imagine waking up in the morning, you know, just walking
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Speaker 1: into your kitchen, making breakfast for your two young children,
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Speaker 1: and pouring a cup of coffee.
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Speaker 2: Right, just a totally normal morning routine.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, just the mundane stuff. You get the kids ready
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Speaker 1: for school, you feed your two dogs, you pay your rent,
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Speaker 1: you go to work.
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Speaker 2: And you're doing all of this while carrying this massive,
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Speaker 2: unbearable secret.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you do all of this while knowing with absolute
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Speaker 1: certainty that just a few feet below your floorboards, encased
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Speaker 1: in a massive mound of solid concrete, is a murdered man.
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Speaker 2: It's completely staggering. I mean, it forces you to confront
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Speaker 2: the sheer, terrifying capacity of the human brain to compartmentalize.
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Speaker 1: Which is something I really want to dig into today,
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Speaker 1: because we often think of a crime scene as this sterile,
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Speaker 1: taped-off environment with flashing lights.
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Speaker 2: Right, with forensic teams and white suits. But in this case,
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Speaker 2: the crime scene was an active, functioning family home for
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Speaker 2: nearly an entire year.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the mundane routines of daily life were taking place
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Speaker 1: directly on top of a literal tomb.
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Speaker 2: It's a jarring collision between domestic normality and unspeakable horror.
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Speaker 1: It really is, and that collision is exactly what we
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Speaker 1: are unpacking today. Welcome to our deep dive into the
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Speaker 1: disappearance and murder of a 35 year old man named
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Speaker 1: Carl K.J. Beam in Aurora, Colorado.
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Speaker 2: But we should clarify, we aren't just reading down a
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Speaker 2: dry timeline here.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all. We have the transcripts, we have
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Speaker 1: the investigative logs, the digital footprints and the actual interrogation records.
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Speaker 2: And through all of those sources, we are going to
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Speaker 2: examine the deeply flawed mechanics of the systems we trust
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Speaker 2: to keep us safe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the neurobiology of trauma and complicity and how this
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Speaker 1: horrific crime was ultimately unraveled.
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Speaker 2: Because it wasn't unraveled by brilliant forensic police work, was it?
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Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. It was brought to light by a
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Speaker 1: mother's unyielding intuition, a staggering bureaucratic failure, and honestly, a
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Speaker 1: single haunting message from a random stranger on Facebook.
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Speaker 2: So to understand how a body ends up beneath a
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Speaker 2: suburban apartment and how it stays hidden for so long,
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Speaker 2: we first have to understand the specific vulnerabilities of the victim.
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Speaker 1: Let's set the stage with KJ.
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Speaker 2: Right. So in May of 2021... K.J. Beam moved back
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Speaker 2: to the Denver, Colorado area, but he was living what
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Speaker 2: sociologists and law enforcement categorize as a highly transient lifestyle.
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Speaker 1: Meaning he didn't have a fixed lease or a mortgage
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Speaker 1: or anything like that?
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Speaker 2: Exactly. He was bouncing between the couches of different friends,
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Speaker 2: and frequently he was just living out of his car.
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Speaker 1: And that detail alone immediately changes the calculus of a
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Speaker 1: missing persons investigation, right?
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. If you or I don't show up at
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Speaker 2: our house after work, the alarms sound almost immediately.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, people would notice.
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Speaker 2: But if your entire living situation is inherently fluid, if
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Speaker 2: your home literally has wheels, your absence isn't immediately registered
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Speaker 2: as an anomaly.
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Speaker 1: It's just perceived as movement, like, oh, he just drove
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Speaker 1: to a new spot.
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Speaker 2: Precisely. That fluidity is the first layer of the smoke
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Speaker 2: screen that allowed this to go undetected. So fast forward
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Speaker 2: exactly one year from his return to Denver to May
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Speaker 2: of 2022. Okay, May 2022. KJ and a man named
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Speaker 2: Haskell Leroy Crawford are caught attempting to steal catalytic converters
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Speaker 2: in Thornton, Colorado.
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Speaker 1: Which is a suburb just north of Bendel. Right. Let's
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Speaker 1: pause and talk about the catalytic converter theft ecosystem for
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Speaker 1: a second because I feel like this is important. It's
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Speaker 1: not just petty shoplifting.
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Speaker 2: No, it's highly organized in a very chaotic way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a very specific type of crime that
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Speaker 1: breeds a very specific type of paranoia. These thefts are
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Speaker 1: usually part of a fast cash street level economy.
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Speaker 2: You slide under a car, cut the converter out in
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Speaker 2: 60 seconds, and sell it to a scrapyard.
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Speaker 1: For the precious metals inside, right? Like rhodium, palladium, platinum.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. And it requires operating in the shadows, often late
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Speaker 2: at night. And it usually involves a tight, highly suspicious
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Speaker 2: network of individuals.
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Speaker 1: People who are all trying to avoid law enforcement while
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Speaker 1: making a really quick turnaround on the cash.
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Speaker 2: And the paranoia inherent in that ecosystem is critical to
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Speaker 2: understanding what happens next in this story.
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Speaker 1: Because the police actually catch them.
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Speaker 2: Right. Well, they intercept them. The police in Thornton intercept KJ.
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Speaker 2: They bring him into the station and they question him
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Speaker 2: about the attempt at theft.
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Speaker 1: But they don't hold him. No.
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Speaker 2: At that exact moment in the interrogation room, they lack
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Speaker 2: the definitive hard evidence required to actually hold him. So legally,
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Speaker 2: they have to release him.
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Speaker 1: But the police don't just drop the case.
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Speaker 2: They don't. A day or two later, investigators obtained security
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Speaker 2: camera footage from a local park and ride facility.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so they get the video.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that video clearly shows KJ committing the theft.
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Speaker 2: With that hard visual evidence secured, the police officially issue
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Speaker 2: a warrant for his arrest.
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Speaker 1: So let's look at it from KJ's perspective. He knows
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Speaker 1: he's been questioned. He knows the police are looking at him.
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Speaker 2: Right, the sieve is planted.
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Speaker 1: And it's highly probable he realizes it's only a matter
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Speaker 1: of time before they secure a warrant and come back
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Speaker 1: for him. The clock is ticking.
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Speaker 2: And it is in this exact same window, May 2022. Specifically...
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Speaker 2: About two weeks before Mother's Day, that KJ completely drops
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Speaker 2: off the map.
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Speaker 1: No calls to his mom.
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Speaker 2: No calls, no texts. He just completely vanishes.
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Speaker 1: Which brings us to the concept of the perfect victim. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We are looking at a textbook example of what criminologists
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Speaker 2: sometimes grimly refer to as the perfect victim for a disappearance.
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Speaker 1: And we don't mean perfect in a moral sense, obviously.
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Speaker 2: No, perfect structurally. The circumstances of his life created an
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Speaker 2: incredibly dense, plausible cover story for his disappearance.
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Speaker 1: Because he had a transient lifestyle, so he was already
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Speaker 1: hard to track. Right. Plus, he had a brand new
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Speaker 1: arrest warrant, which gave him a massive logical incentive to
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Speaker 1: actively hide from the authorities.
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Speaker 2: And add another layer to it, KJ had prior military training.
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Speaker 1: Oh, right. So he knows how to serve all. Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. His own friends told his family that if KJ
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Speaker 2: wanted to go off the grid and evade capture, he
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Speaker 2: possessed the tactical skills to do it successfully.
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Speaker 1: So he basically unwittingly laid down cover fire for his
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Speaker 1: own murder.
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Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it. Law enforcement operates
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Speaker 2: on a triage system, heavily reliant on probability and resources.
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Speaker 1: They only have so much time and money.
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Speaker 2: Right. So when a detective looks at a file and
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Speaker 2: sees a transient man with military survival skills who goes
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Speaker 2: missing immediately after being questioned for a felony... The path
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Speaker 2: of least resistance for their logic is that the individual
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Speaker 2: is fleeing prosecution.
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Speaker 1: They just stamp it as a fugitive case.
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Speaker 2: The system is fundamentally designed to view a fugitive as
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Speaker 2: a fugitive, not as a victim in mortal danger. It
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Speaker 2: requires a tremendous amount of anomalous evidence to force the
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Speaker 2: system to change that categorization.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the resource issue. I really do.
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Speaker 1: But I struggle with that logic from an investigative standpoint.
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Speaker 2: How so?
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Speaker 1: Well, if you're a cop, how do you actually distinguish
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Speaker 1: between a fugitive who is actively on the run and
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Speaker 1: a victim who has been silenced?
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Speaker 2: It's incredibly difficult.
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Speaker 1: Because if the police just assume every missing person with
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Speaker 1: a warrant is on the run, they're essentially providing a
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Speaker 1: free pass to anyone who wants to murder someone with
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Speaker 1: a criminal record.
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Speaker 2: You're hitting on a massive systemic vulnerability. It's a sociological
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Speaker 2: blind spot often discussed in tandem with concepts like Missing
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Speaker 2: white woman syndrome.
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Speaker 1: Where the media and police pour all their resources into
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Speaker 1: victims who fit a specific, pristine demographic profile.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Conversely, when a victim is transient male and has
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Speaker 2: a criminal record, the bureaucratic urgency just evaporates.
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Speaker 1: Which is tragic.
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Speaker 2: The assumption of flight is the most dangerous assumption an
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Speaker 2: investigator can make because it perfectly insulates the people who
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Speaker 2: harmed him. Even his friends and family looked at the
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Speaker 2: warrant and the military background. And naturally assumed he was
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Speaker 2: just laying low.
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Speaker 1: They gave him time.
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Speaker 2: They gave him a lot of time.
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Speaker 1: But a mother's internal clock doesn't run on police logic.
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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 1: As May turns into June and June turns into July,
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Speaker 1: the silence just becomes deafening. KJ's phone goes straight to
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Speaker 1: voicemail every time. His friends haven't heard a whisper.
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Speaker 2: So in July of 2022, roughly two months after he vanished,
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Speaker 2: KJ's mother, Kyla, who lives in Phoenix, Arizona... contacts a
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Speaker 2: Denver area police department to officially file a missing persons report.
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Speaker 1: She initiates the formal process, but she doesn't rely solely
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Speaker 1: on the police, does she?
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Speaker 2: No, she doesn't. Kyla hires a private investigator, actually the
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Speaker 2: husband of a high school friend, to start digging into
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Speaker 2: it on his own.
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Speaker 1: And it is this private investigator who actually uncovers the
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Speaker 1: existence of the Thornton arrest warrant for the catalytic converter theft.
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Speaker 2: Right, because the family didn't know about the warrant until
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Speaker 2: the PI found it.
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Speaker 1: Which brings up a really interesting psychological question. When a
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Speaker 1: family is frantically searching for a missing loved one, and
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Speaker 1: they suddenly find out there is an active warrant for
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Speaker 1: his arrest, what is the emotional response to that?
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Speaker 2: It's complex.
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Speaker 1: Is it relief? Like, okay, there is a rational reason
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Speaker 1: he isn't calling me, he's just hiding. Or does it
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Speaker 1: induce more panic?
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Speaker 2: It creates a severe psychological whiplash. The initial reaction is
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Speaker 2: almost always a sharp spike of relief.
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Speaker 1: Because it means he might still be alive.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. It provides a non-lethal explanation. The brain latches onto
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Speaker 2: it and says, he's not dead, he's just being elusive.
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Speaker 1: But I imagine that relief fades pretty quickly.
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Speaker 2: It degrades rapidly. Because if someone is desperate enough to
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Speaker 2: sever all ties to their mother to hide from the law,
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Speaker 2: they're likely operating in a dangerous subterranean economy just to survive.
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Speaker 1: Right, like who is funding them? Where are they sleeping?
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Speaker 2: For Kyla, the logic of the warrant wasn't enough to
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Speaker 2: override her maternal intuition. She knew her son's baseline behaviors.
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Speaker 1: Warrant or not, he wouldn't just abandon communication entirely.
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Speaker 2: Right. He wouldn't just ghost his own mother for months.
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Speaker 1: So she keeps calling. She keeps pushing the police for updates.
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Speaker 1: And this leads us to a discovery in April of 2023,
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Speaker 1: nearly a full year since KJ disappeared, that is just staggering.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the most frustrating parts of this case.
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Speaker 1: Kyla follows up with the department. only to discover that
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Speaker 1: the police officer she spoke with back in July of 2022,
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Speaker 1: the officer who took all the intake information about her
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Speaker 1: missing son, never actually filed the report.
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Speaker 2: The report simply did not exist in the system.
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Speaker 1: Wait, how does that even happen?
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Speaker 2: When questioned about the failure, the officer offered an apology
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Speaker 2: and stated she just didn't know what happened.
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Speaker 1: Let's break down the mechanics of a failure like that.
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Speaker 1: It is almost like a corrupted routing protocol in a
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Speaker 1: computer network.
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Speaker 2: That's a good analogy.
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Speaker 1: Like if the initial data packet the report has dropped,
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Speaker 1: the network doesn't know there's an error. It doesn't send
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Speaker 1: an alert to anyone. It just assumes no request was
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Speaker 1: ever made. So the police department wasn't maliciously ignoring KJ's
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Speaker 1: case for a year. The system was just structurally oblivious
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Speaker 1: to the fact that he was even missing.
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Speaker 2: That analogy is highly accurate. And the consequences of that
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Speaker 2: dropped packet are just catastrophic.
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Speaker 1: Because of the timeline, right? Yes.
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Speaker 2: In a missing persons investigation, the first 48 hours are paramount.
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Speaker 2: That is the window where digital and physical footprints are
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Speaker 2: volatile but retrievable.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about cell phone tower pings.
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Speaker 2: Those are some pings. Credit card transactions, license plate reader data,
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Speaker 2: and crucial CCPV footage from local businesses.
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Speaker 1: Which usually gets deleted pretty fast.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. A lot of systems overwrite every 7 to 14 days.
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Speaker 2: So by failing to file that report in July, the
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Speaker 2: Darbin didn't just delay a search. They effectively ensured the
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Speaker 2: destruction of the most critical, time-sensitive evidence.
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Speaker 1: They granted the perpetrators an entire year of unscrutinized freedom.
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Speaker 2: A whole year. No detectives knocking on doors, no subpoenas
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Speaker 2: for location data, no pressure whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: But a mother's intuition doesn't just stop because a bureaucracy
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Speaker 1: drops the ball.
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Speaker 2: No, Kyla was relentless.
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Speaker 1: If the physical system wasn't going to look for KJ,
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Speaker 1: Kyla had to build a different system. The formal avenues,
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Speaker 1: the badges, the official reports, they failed completely. So she
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Speaker 1: and a friend of KJ's pivoted to the digital realm.
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Speaker 2: They created a dedicated Facebook page to crowdsource the search
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Speaker 2: for KJ.
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Speaker 1: It was a complete transition from relying on institutional authority
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Speaker 1: to relying on decentralized peer-to-peer communication.
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Speaker 2: And that shift is what ultimately fractured the case wide open.
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Speaker 1: It's wild how this happened. So in April 2023, Kyla
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Speaker 1: is managing this Facebook page from Phoenix. And she receives
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Speaker 1: a direct message from a user with the handle, nope,
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Speaker 1: try again.
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Speaker 2: Nope, try again. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Now, if I'm running a page for my missing child
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Speaker 1: and I get a message from an anonymous account called nope,
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Speaker 1: try again, my immediate assumption is that this is a
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Speaker 1: cruel internet troll.
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Speaker 2: The nomenclature of the handle certainly suggests a burner account,
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Speaker 2: which is often used for harassment or evasion.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: But the content of the message bypassed any trolling preamble.
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Speaker 2: The very first communication was incredibly blunt. It just said,
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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to tell you this, but KJ was killed.
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Speaker 1: God, imagine reading that. Kyla, likely oscillating between pure terror
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Speaker 1: and heavy skepticism, replies and asks for more information.
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Speaker 2: And this user, who later identifies herself as a woman
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Speaker 2: named Sierra, unleashes a barrage of highly specific information.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't hold back.
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Speaker 2: Not at all. She names the killer, she names the accomplice,
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Speaker 2: and she details the exact horrifying location of the body.
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Speaker 1: So Sierra explains that a woman named Casey Back, whom
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Speaker 1: she considered a friend, had recently made an unprompted confession.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Casey revealed that her boyfriend, Haskell Leroy Crawford, the
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Speaker 2: very same man KJ was arrested with for stealing cattle
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Speaker 2: to converters, had murdered KJ.
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Speaker 1: Sierra details that Casey confessed they buried KJ's body under
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Speaker 1: a crawl space in Casey's own apartment.
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Speaker 2: And that Leroy had covered the body in cement.
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Speaker 1: Let's examine the psychology of this leak for a second.
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Speaker 1: The criminals have basically gotten away with it. They have
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Speaker 1: had a year of zero police pressure because of that
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Speaker 1: unfiled report.
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Speaker 2: Right. They were in the clear.
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Speaker 1: Why on earth does Casey voluntarily hand the keys to
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Speaker 1: her own prison cell to an unvolved third party? Like,
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Speaker 1: why do people leak secrets that could literally destroy their lives?
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Speaker 2: We have to look at the cognitive load of a
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Speaker 2: secret of that magnitude. Maintaining a facade of normality is
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Speaker 2: while living physically above the rotting corpse of a man
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Speaker 2: you helped conceal, requires an immense, continuous expenditure of psychological energy.
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Speaker 1: It has to be exhausting.
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Speaker 2: It is. It generates a state of chronic hypervigilance. The
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Speaker 2: brain is constantly running threat assessment algorithms. Like, did someone
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Speaker 2: smell that? Did I lock the door? Does someone know?
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Speaker 1: You can only maintain that white-knuckle grip on reality for
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Speaker 1: so long before your mental muscles just give out.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. And in Casey's case, there was a chemical catalyst.
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Speaker 1: The drugs?
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Speaker 2: Yes, according to Sierra, Casey came to her apartment highly
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Speaker 2: intoxicated on drugs. Substance abuse drantically lowers the prefrontal cortex's
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Speaker 2: ability to inhibit behavior and regulate speech.
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Speaker 1: So she just couldn't keep her mouth shut anymore.
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Speaker 2: Burdened by profound trauma and disinhibited by the narcotics, the
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Speaker 2: cognitive dam simply broke. She expelled the truth because she
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Speaker 2: physically and psychologically could no longer contain it.
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Speaker 1: But look at Sierra's reaction to this. She is just
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Speaker 1: sitting in her apartment. Her friend, high out of her mind,
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Speaker 1: casually mentions cementing a murdered man into a crawl space.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot to process. Right.
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Speaker 1: And Sierra doesn't fully believe it at first, which is
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Speaker 1: completely understandable. So she goes online, she Googles KJ's name,
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Speaker 1: finds Kyla's Facebook page, and realizes this isn't some drug-induced hallucination.
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Speaker 2: The man is actually missing.
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Speaker 1: Now, the logical next step for most people in that
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Speaker 1: situation would be dialing 911.
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Speaker 2: Calling the police, yeah.
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Speaker 1: But Sierra doesn't do that. She bypasses law enforcement entirely
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Speaker 1: and messages strangers' Facebook page. Why? What does that say
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Speaker 1: about how we interact with authority today?
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Speaker 2: It reveals a profound, deeply ingrained societal hesitation to engage
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Speaker 2: with the police, particularly among individuals who might exist on
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Speaker 2: the periphery of the law or who reside in high
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Speaker 2: crime environments.
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Speaker 1: Because calling 911 is a huge step.
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Speaker 2: It initiates an uncontrollable cascade of institutional force. Sierra likely
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Speaker 2: feared becoming entangled in a homicide investigation.
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Speaker 1: She didn't want to be a prime witness on a
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Speaker 1: police report.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. She might have feared violent retaliation from Leroy Crawford
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Speaker 2: if her name appeared in a police affidavit.
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Speaker 1: It really makes you look at your own group chats
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Speaker 1: and direct messages differently. If you vanished, would your discovery
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Speaker 1: rely on the official mechanisms of the state? Or would
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Speaker 1: it rely on someone in your periphery having a crisis
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Speaker 1: of conscience? And choosing to DM a family member.
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Speaker 2: Sierra basically found a moral loophole.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she unburdened her conscience by telling the mother, but
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Speaker 1: she avoided inviting the authority of the state into her
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Speaker 1: own living room.
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Speaker 2: And it was a highly specific digital transmission that cut
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Speaker 2: through a whole year of bureaucratic failure. Because of the
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Speaker 2: granular details, the names, the concrete, the specific crawlspace, Kyla
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Speaker 2: knew this was not a hoax.
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Speaker 1: It was too detailed to be made up.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. So she immediately forwarded the entire digital exchange to
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Speaker 2: the Aurora Police Department.
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Speaker 1: The exact same department that dropped her initial report into
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Speaker 1: the abyss.
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Speaker 2: The very same. But this time, they have actionable intelligence.
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Speaker 2: The abstract digital tip gives them a physical anchor.
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Speaker 1: And a name to search.
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Speaker 2: Right. They pull the files and immediately establish the link.
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Speaker 2: KJ Beam and Haskell Leroy Crawford were arrested together a
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Speaker 2: year prior.
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Speaker 1: The catalytic converter arrest provides the motive and the connection.
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Speaker 1: And a quick database search reveals another critical piece of
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Speaker 1: the puzzle.
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Speaker 2: Which is that Leroy Crawford isn't even on the streets. Right.
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Speaker 1: He is currently sitting in a jail cell in Jefferson County,
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Speaker 1: having been locked up since September of 2022 on a
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Speaker 1: completely unrelated charge of attempted homicide.
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Speaker 2: Which tells the police two very important things. One, Leroy
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Speaker 2: Crawford is an extraordinarily violent individual. Two, Casey Back has
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Speaker 2: been living alone in that apartment with the secret For months.
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Speaker 1: Armed with the digital tip and the historical arrest data,
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Speaker 1: the police secure a search warrant. And on April 4th, 2023,
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Speaker 1: the abstract digital investigation crashes violently into physical reality at
18:01
Speaker 1: Casey Back's front door.
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Speaker 2: The execution of this search warrant is just a masterclass
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Speaker 2: in the juxtaposition of the macabre and the mundane.
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Speaker 1: It really is.
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Speaker 2: Police arrive at the apartment complex. Yeah. They make contact
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Speaker 2: with Casey and detain her. But they also have to
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Speaker 2: manage the domestic environment.
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Speaker 1: Because it's a family home.
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Speaker 2: Right. Casey's two children are at school, so police have
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Speaker 2: to coordinate with Casey's mother to intercept the kids so
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Speaker 2: they don't return to an active crime scene.
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Speaker 1: The apartment also houses two dogs, right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, whose names are officially recorded in the logs as
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Speaker 2: Hooked Under and Pluto.
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Speaker 1: The presence of the kids' toys, the dog bowls, the television,
18:37
Speaker 1: it all creates this veneer of a normal suburban life.
18:41
Speaker 1: But as the police begin their systematic search, they focus
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Speaker 1: on a specific bedroom closet.
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Speaker 2: Based on the tip?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Inside that closet, they find a trapdoor built right
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Speaker 1: into the floor, and the trapdoor is secured with external locks.
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Speaker 2: The presence of locks fundamentally changes the nature of the space.
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Speaker 2: How so? Well, it's no longer just a utility access point.
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Speaker 2: It is a vault. It indicates active, ongoing premeditation to
19:06
Speaker 2: prevent accidental discovery.
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Speaker 1: The detectives remove the locks, they pull back the trapdoor,
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Speaker 1: and they are immediately hit with the overwhelming, distinct odor
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Speaker 1: of human decomposition.
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Speaker 2: It's unmistakable.
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Speaker 1: They descend into the tight crawlspace, and there they find
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Speaker 1: a massive, highly suspicious mound of poured concrete.
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Speaker 2: Just sitting right there in the dirt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. As they examine it closely, shining their flashlights into
19:29
Speaker 1: the structural cracks of the cement, they can visually identify
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Speaker 1: human remains inside.
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Speaker 2: To really understand the sheer horror of this, you have
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Speaker 2: to understand the forensic reality of concrete.
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Speaker 1: What happens when it cures?
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Speaker 2: When concrete cures, it undergoes an exothermic chemical reaction.
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Speaker 1: Meaning it creates its own heat.
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Speaker 2: It generates a tremendous amount of heat.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Furthermore, wrapping a body and encasing it in concrete doesn't
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Speaker 2: stop decomposition.
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Speaker 1: Just seals it in.
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Speaker 2: Actually, it traps the gases, creating a horrific, volatile environment
20:01
Speaker 2: inside that shell. The physical reality of what was happening
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Speaker 2: beneath that apartment is just unimaginable.
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Speaker 1: And Casey was sleeping above it. She was walking the
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Speaker 1: dogs above it. She was raising children above it. I
20:12
Speaker 1: want to delve deeper into the psychological mechanism of compartmentalization here.
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Speaker 2: It's a key part of her defense, psychologically speaking.
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Speaker 1: Because we hear that word thrown around a lot, compartmentalization.
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Speaker 1: But how does the human brain literally function when faced
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Speaker 1: with that level of continuous proximal horror? Like, how do
20:30
Speaker 1: you make a sandwich when that is under your floor?
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Speaker 2: In cases of extreme sustained trauma, especially when coupled with
20:37
Speaker 2: domestic abuse and substance dependency, the brain utilizes compartmentalization not
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Speaker 2: as a quirk, but as a vital survival mechanism.
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Speaker 1: It's a defense mechanism.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. The psyche physically cannot process the reality of the
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Speaker 2: trauma while simultaneously executing the executive functions required to survive,
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Speaker 2: like feeding children or going to work.
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Speaker 1: So it just blocks it out.
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Speaker 2: The brain basically creates a firewall. The memories and the
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Speaker 2: awareness of the body in the crawlspace are cordoned off
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Speaker 2: into a completely separate cognitive sector.
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Speaker 1: So she put physical padlocks on the trapdoor, and she
21:10
Speaker 1: put neurobiological padlocks on her conscious awareness of what was
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Speaker 1: down there.
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Speaker 2: Precisely. If she were to allow herself to fully integrate
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Speaker 2: the reality of the rotting corpse beneath her children's feet,
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Speaker 2: it would trigger an autonomic nervous system overload, a complete
21:23
Speaker 2: psychological collapse.
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Speaker 1: The delusion of normalcy was the only way her brain
21:28
Speaker 1: could keep her lungs breathing and her heart beating.
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Speaker 2: But the delusion ends... The moment the detectives pull her
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Speaker 2: out of the apartment.
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Speaker 1: Right. The spell is broken.
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Speaker 2: Excavating the concrete and recovering the body was actually the
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Speaker 2: easy part. The real challenge for the investigators was psychological.
21:44
Speaker 1: Getting her to confess.
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Speaker 2: How do you break a woman who has spent 365
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Speaker 2: days perfectly compartmentalizing a murder?
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Speaker 1: Which transitions us directly into the interrogation room, where we
21:55
Speaker 1: see the strategic application of psychological pressure by law enforcement.
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Speaker 2: It's fascinating to watch these transcripts play out.
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Speaker 1: Casey is sitting in an interview room at the Aurora
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Speaker 1: Police Department. The detectives already know what is in the crawlspace,
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Speaker 1: but they don't walk in yelling or slamming photos on
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Speaker 1: the table. They use a very calibrated, soft approach.
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Speaker 2: What you are seeing is the execution of specific phases
22:18
Speaker 2: of the read technique.
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Speaker 1: Which is a pretty standard interrogation method, right?
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Speaker 2: It's a widely used, albeit controversial, method of interrogation. The
22:28
Speaker 2: first phase involves isolation, stripping the suspect of their familiar
22:32
Speaker 2: environment to increase anxiety.
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Speaker 1: Sitting in that cold room alone.
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Speaker 2: Right. But the crucial phase utilized here is theme development,
22:40
Speaker 2: specifically minimization.
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Speaker 1: So the detective sits down and essentially offers her a
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Speaker 1: narrative lifeline. He says something along the lines of, look,
22:48
Speaker 1: we know what's under the house. But we don't think
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Speaker 1: you're the mastermind here. We think you were caught up
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Speaker 1: in something. Maybe you helped clean up, but you didn't
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Speaker 1: plan this.
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Speaker 2: The psychological mechanism of minimization is designed to lower the
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Speaker 2: suspect's defensive barriers by reducing their perceived moral culpability.
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Speaker 1: They give her an out.
23:05
Speaker 2: The detective is offering her a way to confess without
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Speaker 2: having to label herself a monster. He's providing a socially
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Speaker 2: acceptable reason for the crime.
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Speaker 1: But Casey's firewall is still fully active at this point.
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Speaker 1: In this first interview, she attempts a spectacular bluff. She
23:20
Speaker 1: flatly denies knowing anything. She denies talking to Sierra.
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Speaker 2: She just stonewalls them.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then she asks the detective a question that
23:29
Speaker 1: reveals the depth of her delusion. She actually says, do
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Speaker 1: I look like a criminal?
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Speaker 2: That phrase, do I look like a criminal, is a frantic,
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Speaker 2: desperate attempt to preserve her self-image.
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Speaker 1: It's almost absurd.
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Speaker 2: It is. But she has spent a year... Convincing herself
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Speaker 2: that because she is a mother, because she has an apartment,
23:48
Speaker 2: because she is the one who pulled the trigger, she
23:50
Speaker 2: doesn't fit the aesthetic archetype of a murderer.
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Speaker 1: She genuinely believes that projecting this aura of suburban innocence
23:57
Speaker 1: will somehow override the forensic reality of the concrete mound
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Speaker 1: in her closet.
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Speaker 2: The detective obviously doesn't bite.
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Speaker 1: No, he informs her that they have found the body.
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Speaker 1: Her bluff disintegrates on the spot. She's formally charged as
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Speaker 1: an accessory to a crime and transported to a jail cell.
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Speaker 2: But the physical isolation of the jail cell acts as
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Speaker 2: a rapid solvent on her psychological firewall.
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Speaker 1: Because at 7.44 p.m. that exact same evening, the police
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Speaker 1: station receives a phone call.
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Speaker 2: A man identifying himself as Casey's new boyfriend calls the detective.
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Speaker 2: He states that Casey has called him from the jail
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Speaker 2: and asked him to convey a message.
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Speaker 1: She wants to talk.
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Speaker 2: She is ready to talk.
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Speaker 1: The detectives bring her back. And the second interview is
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Speaker 1: a fascinating display of self-preservation.
24:40
Speaker 2: She's shifting gears.
24:41
Speaker 1: Casey knows she can no longer deny the body. So
24:45
Speaker 1: she shifts her strategy entirely. She attempts to thread the
24:48
Speaker 1: needle between cooperation and murder. She changes her story and
24:53
Speaker 1: places the absolute totality of the blame squarely on Leroy Crawford.
24:57
Speaker 2: She provides a highly sanitized narrative at this point. She
25:00
Speaker 2: claims that she came home from work one day, walked
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Speaker 2: into her apartment and discovered that Leroy was already there.
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Speaker 2: And KJ was already dead on the floor of her bedroom.
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Speaker 1: And she adds a very bizarre specific detail. She claims
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Speaker 1: KJ had a white plastic bag, like a Walmart grocery bag,
25:17
Speaker 1: over his head.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: She then claims that Leroy physically grabbed her by the
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Speaker 1: arm and forced her to help drag the body out
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Speaker 1: of the room. She insists she didn't see any blood.
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Speaker 2: And she claims that Leroy left, came back the next day,
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Speaker 2: and poured the concrete himself because he thought it would
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Speaker 2: cover up his scent.
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Speaker 1: It's such a specific lie.
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Speaker 2: This is a classic partial admission. is a mechanism of
25:37
Speaker 2: negotiation with the law. She believes that by offering a
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Speaker 2: fraction of the truth, admitting to dragging the body, and
25:44
Speaker 2: knowing about the concrete, she can satiate the detective's need
25:49
Speaker 2: for a confession while legally insulating herself.
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Speaker 1: Because if she wasn't there for the murder.
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Speaker 2: Right. By claiming she arrived after the murder occurred, she
25:58
Speaker 2: legally removes herself from the act of homicide, which obviously
26:01
Speaker 2: carries the heaviest penal weight. She is presenting herself entirely
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Speaker 2: as a victim of circumstance.
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Speaker 1: But the detectives are seasoned. They know the narrative is fractured,
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Speaker 1: the timeline is vague, and the physical evidence of the
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Speaker 1: cleanup suggests a much more involved process than simply dragging
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Speaker 1: a body.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't add up.
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Speaker 1: Casey eventually realizes they aren't buying the sanitized version, and
26:23
Speaker 1: she shuts down again, retreating back into silence.
26:25
Speaker 2: With Casey stonewalling, the detectives pivot to the primary suspect.
26:30
Speaker 2: They travel 27 miles to the Jefferson County Detention Center,
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Speaker 2: to interview Haskell Leroy Crawford.
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Speaker 1: And the behavioral contrast between Casey and Leroy is staggering.
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Speaker 2: It's night and day.
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Speaker 1: Casey was frantic, shifting her stories, trying to manipulate the
26:44
Speaker 1: narrative to save herself. The detectives walk into the interview
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Speaker 1: room with Leroy. He has been institutionalized for months. They
26:51
Speaker 1: tell him they are executing a search warrant at Casey's apartment.
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Speaker 2: And they slide a photograph of KJ Beam across the table.
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Speaker 1: Leroy's physiological response is just ice cold. He looks at
27:01
Speaker 1: the photograph, acknowledges that KJ was a friend, And Conley
27:04
Speaker 1: states he hasn't seen him in a year.
27:06
Speaker 2: The detective gently applies pressure, noting that they are homicide investigators.
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Speaker 1: And Leroy, without a microsecond of hesitation, shuts the entire
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Speaker 1: operation down. He looks at the detective and says, last
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Speaker 1: time I talked to cops, I ended up here. I
27:20
Speaker 1: think I'm done.
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Speaker 2: Leroy operates with the institutionalized logic of a career criminal.
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Speaker 2: He understands the foundational rule of the justice system, which
27:29
Speaker 2: is that any statement is a liability.
27:31
Speaker 1: He knows not to talk.
27:32
Speaker 2: Exactly. While Casey intends to talk her way out of
27:34
Speaker 2: a concrete corner, Leroy knows that absolute silence is his
27:38
Speaker 2: only impenetrable armor. He refuses to engage in the read technique.
27:42
Speaker 2: He simply removes himself from the board entirely.
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Speaker 1: The detectives hit a brick wall with Leroy, and they
27:47
Speaker 1: know Casey is still lying. It is going to take
27:50
Speaker 1: time to erode the remaining layers of her deception.
27:53
Speaker 2: It takes three months.
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Speaker 1: Three months of Casey sitting in a sterile jail cell,
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Speaker 1: geographically separated from Leroy's influence... physically removed from the apartment
28:03
Speaker 1: that housed the trauma, and most importantly, going through the
28:06
Speaker 1: brutal physical process of getting completely sober.
28:10
Speaker 2: Sobriety and distance are powerful truth serums.
28:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really are.
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Speaker 2: In July of 2023, the fog of narcotics is finally lifted.
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Speaker 2: The immediate physical threat of Leroy's presence is mitigated by
28:21
Speaker 2: the walls of the jail. Casey agrees to sit down
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Speaker 2: with the police for a third time.
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Speaker 1: And this time, the sanitized narrative vanishes.
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Speaker 2: She provides the horrific, unvarnished timeline of what actually happened
28:33
Speaker 2: to Carl K.J. Bean.
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Speaker 1: The truth is a story of sheer domestic terror. Casey
28:38
Speaker 1: admits that she did not come home to find a body.
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Speaker 1: She was there from the very beginning.
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Speaker 2: The whole time.
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Speaker 1: She tells detectives that Leroy was hiding inside her apartment,
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Speaker 1: armed with a 9mm handgun. When K.J. arrived at the door,
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Speaker 1: Leroy pointed the gun at Casey and ordered her to
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Speaker 1: let him in.
28:54
Speaker 2: The underlying motive for the violence finally crystallizes here. The
28:58
Speaker 2: paranoia of the catalytic converter theft ring had reached a
29:01
Speaker 2: boiling point.
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Speaker 1: Because they had been arrested together.
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Speaker 2: Right. Leroy was convinced that KJ was a rat. He
29:08
Speaker 2: believed KJ was actively cooperating with the Thornton police regarding
29:11
Speaker 2: their joint arrest, and that KJ was going to trade
29:14
Speaker 2: Leroy's freedom for his own.
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Speaker 1: So, under the threat of a firearm, Casey opens the
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Speaker 1: front door. KJ walks into the apartment. He is instantly ambushed.
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Speaker 2: But Leroy doesn't use the 9mm.
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Speaker 1: No, Casey details that Leroy stepped out wielding a 20-gauge shotgun.
29:28
Speaker 2: He forces Casey onto the floor and drags him into
29:31
Speaker 2: the back bedroom. What follows is not a swift execution,
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Speaker 2: but a prolonged, agonizing period of physical and psychological torture.
29:39
Speaker 1: The details of the environment are chilling. Casey describes Leroy
29:43
Speaker 1: turning up the music in the apartment, blasting it at
29:45
Speaker 1: top volume.
29:46
Speaker 2: To cover the noise.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and for hours, trapped in the living room, paralyzed
29:50
Speaker 1: by fear and the narcotics in her system. She listens
29:54
Speaker 1: as Leroy violently interrogates and tortures his former friend in
29:57
Speaker 1: the bedroom. She tells police she believes Leroy was repeatedly
30:01
Speaker 1: bludgeoning KJ with the shotgun.
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Speaker 2: We must analyze the mechanics of this violence. The use
30:07
Speaker 2: of loud music is a highly calculated tactic.
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Speaker 1: It's not just a random detail.
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Speaker 2: No, it serves a dual purpose. It drowns out the
30:14
Speaker 2: screams to prevent neighbors from calling the police. And it
30:18
Speaker 2: creates a disorienting, sensory overloading environment. that breaks down the
30:23
Speaker 2: victim's psychological resistance.
30:25
Speaker 1: That's psychological warfare.
30:27
Speaker 2: This indicates severe premeditation. This wasn't a sudden crime of passion.
30:31
Speaker 2: It was an exertion of absolute sadistic control.
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Speaker 1: The torture continues through the night. As the sun rises
30:36
Speaker 1: the next morning, the apartment finally falls silent. Casey walks
30:39
Speaker 1: into her bathroom, and she finds KJ dead.
30:42
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a gunshot wound that killed him.
30:44
Speaker 1: No, the method Leroy used is viscerally disturbing in its
30:47
Speaker 1: calculated use of the domestic space.
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Speaker 2: Leroy had found a wire. He wrapped it tightly around
30:52
Speaker 2: KJ's neck. He then maneuvered KJ into the shower, and
30:56
Speaker 2: he used the physical infrastructure of the bathroom itself, the
30:59
Speaker 2: shower shelf and the shower door framing to create leverage,
31:03
Speaker 2: slowly strangling him to death.
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Speaker 1: The use of the shower door for mechanical leverage, it
31:07
Speaker 1: is horrifyingly inventive. But Leroy's reign of terror doesn't end
31:12
Speaker 1: with KJ's death. He immediately pivots the threat toward Casey.
31:16
Speaker 2: He weaponizes her most profound vulnerabilities. He explicitly threatens... to
31:21
Speaker 2: rape her. And most devastatingly, he threatens the safety of
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Speaker 2: her two young children who had been asleep in the
31:27
Speaker 2: apartment during the entire ordeal.
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Speaker 1: He uses the kids as leverage.
31:31
Speaker 2: He uses the lives of her children as the ultimate
31:33
Speaker 2: leverage to force her absolute complicity in the cleanup and
31:37
Speaker 2: disposal of the body.
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Speaker 1: I need to stop and challenge the psychology here because
31:41
Speaker 1: this is where the narrative of victimhood gets incredibly muddy.
31:44
Speaker 2: It's very complicated.
31:46
Speaker 1: I understand the concept of trauma. I understand that Leroy
31:48
Speaker 1: is a monster. but I am struggling with the logic
31:51
Speaker 1: of complicity as a protective measure.
31:53
Speaker 2: Okay, let's break it down.
31:54
Speaker 1: If you genuinely believe this man is a mortal threat
31:56
Speaker 1: to your children, if he has just strangled his best
31:59
Speaker 1: friend in your shower, how does keeping him as a
32:02
Speaker 1: secret roommate and hiding a corpse in their playroom protect
32:05
Speaker 1: the kids? Wouldn't the primal maternal instinct be to grab
32:10
Speaker 1: the children and run the absolute second he leaves the
32:13
Speaker 1: apartment to get supplies?
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Speaker 2: It is a totally rational question, but it applies logic.
32:18
Speaker 2: to an inherently illogical neurobiological state. You are asking why
32:23
Speaker 2: she didn't utilize a flight response.
32:25
Speaker 1: Right, why not just run?
32:26
Speaker 2: We have to look at the mechanics of a trauma bond,
32:29
Speaker 2: specifically the cycle of intermittent reinforcement. In highly abusive dynamics,
32:34
Speaker 2: the abuser oscillates between extreme violence and periods of calm
32:38
Speaker 2: or even affection.
32:39
Speaker 1: It's a roller coaster.
32:40
Speaker 2: This creates massive spikes of cortisol, the stress hormone, followed
32:43
Speaker 2: by releases of dopamine. when the threat temporarily subsides.
32:46
Speaker 1: So her brain becomes chemically addicted to the relief he
32:49
Speaker 1: provides when he isn't hurting her.
32:50
Speaker 2: Exactly. Over time, this chemical roller coaster physically alters the
32:54
Speaker 2: brain's decision-making centers. The victim's reality becomes entirely warped by
32:59
Speaker 2: the abuser.
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Speaker 1: Because leaving feels impossible.
33:02
Speaker 2: The concept of escaping feels more dangerous than complying, because
33:06
Speaker 2: compliance is the only behavior that has consistently resulted in
33:09
Speaker 2: the dopamine relief of survival.
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Speaker 1: That makes a tragic amount of sense.
33:13
Speaker 2: In Casey's fractured, trauma-bonded reality, helping him clean the blood,
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Speaker 2: helping him wrap the body in a white mattress cover,
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Speaker 2: and helping move it to the crawlspace, was the safest,
33:23
Speaker 2: most immediate path to ensuring her children survive the next
33:27
Speaker 2: five minutes. The brain prioritizes immediate survival over long-term logical safety.
33:33
Speaker 1: It doesn't absolve the profound moral failing of leaving a
33:36
Speaker 1: mother in the dark for a year, but it explains
33:39
Speaker 1: the neurological paralysis that kept her in that apartment.
33:42
Speaker 2: Correct. And the premeditation of the cover-up was extensive. Leroy
33:45
Speaker 2: leaves the apartment, but he returns two or three days later.
33:48
Speaker 1: He actually comes back.
33:49
Speaker 2: Yes. He utilizes tools that were already present in the home,
33:53
Speaker 2: and he brings in three heavy bags of concrete. He
33:56
Speaker 2: personally seals the tomb in the crawlspace. And before he
33:59
Speaker 2: leaves for good, he reinforces the trauma bond with paranoia,
34:03
Speaker 2: telling Casey, people are watching you.
34:05
Speaker 1: The tragic irony of this entire case is staggering. Let's
34:09
Speaker 1: look at the systemic cause and effect.
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Speaker 2: For a moment.
34:12
Speaker 1: Leroy Crawford initiated this horrific chain of events because he
34:16
Speaker 1: was paranoid that KJ was a rat. Right.
34:19
Speaker 2: He thought KJ would turn him in.
34:20
Speaker 1: He believed KJ would talk to the police and cost
34:23
Speaker 1: him his freedom. Yet by committing this murder and by
34:26
Speaker 1: utilizing extreme violence to force his drug-addicted girlfriend into complicity,
34:31
Speaker 1: Leroy engineered the exact mechanism of his own destruction.
34:34
Speaker 2: He built his own trap.
34:36
Speaker 1: The very woman he terrified into silence eventually succumbed to
34:39
Speaker 1: the psychological weight, confessed to a friend, and became the
34:43
Speaker 1: ultimate rat that sealed his fate.
34:45
Speaker 2: It is the ultimate self-fulfilling prophecy of a paranoid criminal.
34:49
Speaker 2: The violence he used to ensure silence was the very
34:51
Speaker 2: thing that made the silence unsustainable.
34:53
Speaker 1: With the unvarnished confession secured and the physical evidence excavated
34:57
Speaker 1: from the concrete, the investigative phase concludes. The police have
35:01
Speaker 1: the timeline, the motive, and the perpetrators.
35:04
Speaker 2: And now the legal machinery starts turning.
35:06
Speaker 1: Now the machinery of the legal system takes over. And
35:09
Speaker 1: this is where the abstract concept of justice meets the pragmatic,
35:13
Speaker 1: often deeply unsatisfying reality of the courtroom.
35:16
Speaker 2: The first step in that machinery is the formal establishment
35:19
Speaker 2: of facts. The Arapaho County coroner officially identifies the remains
35:23
Speaker 2: extracted from the concrete as Carl K.J. Bean.
35:26
Speaker 1: The official ruling is homicide.
35:28
Speaker 2: Yes. For Kyla and the rest of his family, the
35:31
Speaker 2: hope that he was just off the grid is permanently extinguished.
35:35
Speaker 1: You see the profound human cost here. K.J. wasn't just
35:38
Speaker 1: a data point in a transient demographic. His friends and
35:41
Speaker 1: family remember him as a genuinely kind person with a
35:44
Speaker 1: huge smile and a contagious laugh.
35:46
Speaker 2: He was loved.
35:47
Speaker 1: They rallied together, pooling their resources to raise funds to
35:49
Speaker 1: give him a proper funeral. An entire life, an entire
35:53
Speaker 1: future was erased over a paranoid delusion regarding a stolen
35:56
Speaker 1: car part.
35:57
Speaker 2: Then we reach the dispensation of legal accountability. And we
36:00
Speaker 2: must analyze the mechanics of the plea deals, because this
36:03
Speaker 2: is where the public often feels the system fails morally.
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Speaker 1: Let's look at Casey Bach. She lived over the body
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Speaker 1: for a year. She lied to detectives initially. She actively
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Speaker 1: assisted in the cleanup of a gruesome murder scene.
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Speaker 2: And she pleads guilty to being an accessory to a crime.
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Speaker 1: And what is her punishment for that? In exchange for
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Speaker 1: her full cooperation, meaning her agreement to take the stand
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Speaker 1: and testify to every horrific detail against Leroy, she receives
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Speaker 1: a deferred judgment.
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Speaker 2: She is released from jail.
36:30
Speaker 1: She walks free.
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Speaker 2: And we have to examine why prosecutors make deals that
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Speaker 2: feel so disproportionately lenient. In the legal system, the burden
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Speaker 2: of proof for a murder conviction is astronomically high beyond
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Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to prove.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Prosecutors are frequently forced into a brutal moral calculus.
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Speaker 2: To secure a guaranteed long-term sentence for the primary apex predator,
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Speaker 2: the actual murderer, they often have to purchase the testimony
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Speaker 2: of the accomplice with the currency of freedom.
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Speaker 1: Because without her, they might lose. Right.
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Speaker 2: Without Casey's testimony, Leroy's defense attorney could have introduced reasonable doubt,
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Speaker 2: perhaps even blaming the murder entirely on Casey.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Haskell Leroy Crawford sees the legal trap closing. He
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Speaker 1: knows Casey is going to testify. He knows the concrete,
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Speaker 1: the forensics, and the timeline are insurmountable.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't have a way out.
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Speaker 1: He decides not to roll the dice with a jury trial.
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Speaker 1: He avoids the courtroom spectacle and pleads guilty to second-degree murder.
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Speaker 1: In April of 2025, he is sentenced to 30 years
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Speaker 1: in the state penitentiary.
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Speaker 2: It's a pragmatic resolution. The disease Leroy Croyford's presence in
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Speaker 2: society has cured. But the treatment leaves a lingering bitter
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Speaker 2: aftertaste regarding Casey's freedom.
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Speaker 1: I want you, listening to this right now, to put
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Speaker 1: yourself in the shoes of the prosecutor. You're sitting at
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Speaker 1: the desk looking at the file. You know what Casey did.
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Speaker 1: You know she slept above that body.
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Speaker 2: It's a tough call.
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Speaker 1: Would you make that trade? Would you willingly sign the
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Speaker 1: paper that lets an accomplice walk free just to guarantee
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Speaker 1: that the primary killer dies in a prison cell? It
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Speaker 1: is a choice between perfect retribution and guaranteed safety. And
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Speaker 1: the system almost always chooses safety.
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Speaker 2: At Leroy's sentencing hearing, the sterile legal process is momentarily
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Speaker 2: pierced by raw human grief. Kyla, KJ's mother, finally has
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to stand as open court and address the
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Speaker 2: man who destroyed her family.
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Speaker 1: She looks directly at Leroy Crawford and she delivers a
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Speaker 1: statement that strips away all the legal jargon.
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Speaker 2: It's incredibly powerful.
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Speaker 1: She says, he murdered my only child. We may never
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Speaker 1: know all the details, but the defendant does. I hope
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Speaker 1: it haunts him every day for the rest of his
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Speaker 1: life like it does me.
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Speaker 2: It is a devastating articulation of the reality of violent crime.
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Speaker 2: The judge gavel closes the legal file, but the emotional
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Speaker 2: sentence imposed upon the victim's family is a life term
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Speaker 2: without the possibility of parole.
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Speaker 1: The system did its job, ultimately.
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Speaker 2: The justice system successfully removed Leroy from society, yes, but
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Speaker 2: no court order can retroactively undo the agonizing, terrifying year
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Speaker 2: that Kyla spent waiting for a phone call that was
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Speaker 2: never going to come.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a step back and look at the sheer
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Speaker 1: terrifying arc of what we just explored. The domino effect
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Speaker 1: is astounding.
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Speaker 2: It's a chain reaction.
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Speaker 1: We started with a minor property crime stealing catalytic converters
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Speaker 1: in a suburban parking lot. That single event triggered a
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Speaker 1: cascade of paranoia within a criminal ecosystem that escalated into
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Speaker 1: a brutal, calculated, hours-long torture and murder.
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Speaker 2: The perpetrator's success utilized the victim's own socioeconomic status, his transience,
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Speaker 2: his pending warrants, his military skills as an impenetrable smokescreen.
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Speaker 1: And that illusion was aided, inadvertently but massively, by a
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Speaker 1: catastrophic systemic failure.
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Speaker 2: The unfiled report.
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Speaker 1: Right. A single police officer was Dropping a single data packet,
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Speaker 1: basically failing to file a piece of paper, essentially granted
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Speaker 1: the killer a year of complete invisibility.
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Speaker 2: But that invisibility wasn't pierced by brilliant detective work or
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Speaker 2: high tech surveillance grids or DNA sequencing.
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Speaker 1: It was pierced by the neurobiological unsustainability of a guilty conscience.
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Speaker 1: A traumatized, drug addicted accomplice couldn't handle the cognitive load.
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Speaker 1: She leaked the secret to a friend and that friend
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Speaker 1: chose to bypass the physical police force entirely. opting to
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Speaker 1: send a message into the digital ether.
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Speaker 2: From a catalytic converter theft to a concrete tomb, all
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Speaker 2: unraveled by a stranger hiding behind the username. Nope. Try again.
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Speaker 1: It highlights how deeply precarious our systems of justice truly are.
40:31
Speaker 1: You have to analyze the alternate timelines. If that Denver-area
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Speaker 1: police officer had simply followed protocol and filed the report
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Speaker 1: properly in July of 2022... does the investigation secure the
40:42
Speaker 1: CCTV footage?
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Speaker 2: Do they crack the case before Casey ever gets sober
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Speaker 2: in jail?
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Speaker 1: Exactly. Or look at the other side of the coin.
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Speaker 1: If Sierra, the Facebook tipster, had just decided to mind
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Speaker 1: her own business if she had convinced herself that Casey's
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Speaker 1: confession was just drug-induced rambling, closed her laptop and went
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Speaker 1: to sleep, does Carl K.J. Beam remain beneath those floorboards forever?
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Speaker 2: Statistically, given the lack of police pressure and the physical
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Speaker 2: security of the concrete, it is highly probable that he
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Speaker 2: would have never been found.
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Speaker 1: And that is a truly chilling thought. We spend so
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Speaker 1: much of our time in modern society agonizing over your
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Speaker 1: digital footprints. We worry about corporate data collection. We stress
41:18
Speaker 1: about privacy settings. We worry about what the internet knows
41:21
Speaker 1: about our habits.
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Speaker 2: We hear about it constantly.
41:23
Speaker 1: But this case leaves me with a very different, very
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Speaker 1: provocative perspective to consider.
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Speaker 2: How so?
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Speaker 1: In a world where our physical institutional systems can fail
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Speaker 1: us so completely, a world where a mother's desperate plea
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Speaker 1: for her missing child just vanishes into thin air because
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Speaker 1: of a bureaucratic clerical error? Is our digital footprint actually
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Speaker 1: our ultimate safety net?
41:45
Speaker 2: That is a profound question.
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Speaker 1: Think about your own life. If you vanish tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: the bureaucracy failed to recognize your absence, who would advocate
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Speaker 1: for you? Would the truth of what happened to you
41:56
Speaker 1: ultimately be uncovered in an official organized police file? Or
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Speaker 1: would your salvation rely on the unread messages of a
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Speaker 1: random stranger's social media account?