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F1 2025 | Mexican GP Recap & Brazilian GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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get laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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the boys welcome back to banter with the boys
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fast laps where we got the mexico recap and the
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brazil preview joe welcome back buddy Thank you.
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No, welcome back to you. Yeah, welcome back.
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I haven't been here in a while. It's been a second.
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I feel like for a fast lapse. I mean, we haven't
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been here in a while. I guess Mike and I were
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here. Oh, yeah. Mike and I did a virtual one.
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That seemed to go well. I think it went very
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well. That seemed to go well. I had a good time.
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What did you use? Was that OBS, too? All of that?
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No. No, we didn't. No, it's a whole thing. Yeah,
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we used something else. Oh, God. Okay. That's
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okay. Secret sauce. Secret sauce. I'm happy to
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have you back. Happy that we can all be here
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in person, including Kev. Mike, what's up? I'm
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happy to be back. It's been a long time since
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I've been in this chair. I'm happy to be here
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again. We're all back. We're all happy -ish to
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be here. Happy -ish? Here it is. Fun race? It
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was a fun race. The one that took place like...
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A while ago, the Mexico recap. Yeah, these are
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hard to remember, I feel like, after a while.
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For sure. So that's why we're here to remind
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people. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't know
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how many other podcasts are going to... And we
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don't even go into that much detail. We could
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go into way more detail. We cut it off. True.
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So maybe people are still looking for a Mexico
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recap. Maybe. So with that, let's just roll right
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into it, Kev. Let's get into our Mexico GP recap.
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Recap. And welcome back for our Mexico GB recap.
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Our pre -race banter. We're talking about the
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quali, the practice, yada, yada, yada. You know
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what it is. Usually, I turn to Joe for any notes
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on that. Was it eventful enough for notes for
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Joe? Not really. Nothing. Which is good. That's
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good. I literally have... Oh, Lando had some
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car issues in FP2, apparently. He had a bad weekend
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leading up to the race, except for the quali.
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And the only thing I got... Wait, was this Mexico?
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I think so. FP1, Kickhead was fast in FP1, I
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believe. Oh, okay, yeah. Which was cool to see.
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Yeah. Like third and fifth. Yeah, and then Red
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Bull had a new floor for Max this weekend as
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well. That's the only thing I had. The only other
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thing I had. Okay, okay. Yeah, nothing crazy,
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nothing wrong with that. Our starting grid for
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the GP, Lando Charles Lewis, George, Max, Kimmy.
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Oscar Piastri, Isaac Hadjar, Bierman, and Yuki.
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But the finishing 10, Lando, Charles, Max, Bierman.
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So can't wait to hear what you got to say. Oscar,
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Kimmy, George, Lewis, Ocon, Bortoletto. So interesting
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way to end the race there. So let's just get
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right into it here. We'll start off with... Let's
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just start off with Alpine because they're the
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lowest team with two finishing cars. So that's
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it. Worst of the cars that didn't DNF. That's
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really all I have. I mean, things are just bad.
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I mean, generally bad. And there's no look. Okay,
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so the only look is what we were just talking
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about off air, if you will, is that, God forbid,
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if it rains this weekend in Brazil. Sure. During
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the GP. Then maybe. Pierre Gasly can maybe get
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some points, but I don't know. I'm not holding
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my breath. Yeah, I don't know. You guys got anything
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loving to say about Alpine? Nothing bad. Oh,
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never. No, never. I wasn't gassing them up per
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se, but if they are making any moves, Brazil's...
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kind of the one to do it i think um i'm almost
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wondering if i mean you guys probably know better
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than i do have they given up completely on this
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year's car like they're not giving any upgrades
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i can't expect something surprising for brazil
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last i heard is that they're just completely
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off it they're looking at next year they're just
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reno stopped developing this car like stopped
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developing this engine like eight months ago
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yeah that's why the power has not been in the
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car at all yeah so like yeah yeah so i mean i
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maybe we'll see something happening man Yeah,
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truly. Mercedes power. That's it. Which is true.
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Mercedes power. You never know. They could come
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back. Bounce back for Alpine. It's possible.
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Here we go. It's possible. Here we go. Maybe.
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All right. Let's see. Next up. They need to figure
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out who their drivers are first. Next up. Calm
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down. Well, for one of the seats, buddy. Yeah,
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true. True. Tell me to calm down. All right.
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Aston here. Alonzo, DNF, Stroll, 14th. And Alonzo's
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car was retired for all I could find was really
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just like a possible brake issue, I guess. So
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they just decided to retire it. So nothing else
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got worse. Yeah. Was this the race? Remind me,
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was this the race where he wasn't told to pit?
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He just did it and retired on his own? Or was
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that the race before? I don't think that was
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this one. I don't remember, actually. I don't
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think this was this one. Again, bear with us.
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This was a minute ago. I don't think that was
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this one. No, I think the person who this time.
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had pit and just retired was Hulkenberg, wasn't
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it? Well, Hulkenberg ended up having to retire
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because of a power unit issue during formation
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lap. Well, correct. So he retired just before
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they even got to start. No, he raced, didn't
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he? I thought he started. He raced his first
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stint. He drove through his first stint, and
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then he had to retire when he went into the pits
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because they couldn't get the power issue figured
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out. So they just said, you know, heck it, just
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get in the garage. You're not going to score
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points. Let's just save the rest of the engine.
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Well, either way, we'll look it up. We'll look
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it up. I don't know. I thought he didn't even
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start, but either way. Unimpressive for Aston.
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Yeah, no, obviously unimpressive for Aston. I
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mean, Lance spinning out early, and then after
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that, he wasn't really able to ever rebound.
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Yep. But he beat the Alpines. Woo -hoo. All right.
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Next up after this, now. I don't know if we're
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waiting to talk about the Liam Lawson -Marshall
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thing. I think that's coming up, so we'll wait.
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But Liam also DNFs. And then Isaac, after a P8
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quali, not able to finish with points. Kev's
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boy. Kev's boy. We've got to find some F1 Isaac
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Hedger cards. Big sad from Kev. Big sad. Unfortunate
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race from them, but, you know. It happens. This
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is a pretty demanding track. Okay, yeah, you're
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right. Nico was racing. Yeah. For some reason,
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I thought he didn't even make it out of the formation
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lap. He was having power issues in the formation
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lap, and they just kind of told him, just roll
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with it, and we'll see if we can fix it from
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here. Yeah, and they weren't able to get things
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going. And they weren't able to get it fixed,
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and he was just struggling out there, just pushing
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as hard as he could, but couldn't really make
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anything happen. So they just said, we're just
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going to save the engine. Save the rest of the
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parts. Just retire. Get out of the car. Sure.
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You're done. You're done. It's over. Go take
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your bath. Williams. Hatcher didn't retire. Liam.
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Liam retired. Liam did. Okay. I thought you may
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have said Hatcher. No, no. Liam. That's my bad.
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Or Lawson. Or Liam. Yeah. But what about Williams?
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Now, we were talking before we started. Does
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Williams, they have fifth locked up? I don't
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think they're. It's not locked up. It's pretty.
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It's like they're in a really good spot. They're
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at 111. points right now like we like 70 30 here
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70 70 leaning towards they got it locked i think
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so yeah so i would maybe even give it more i
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don't think any team has even okay yeah especially
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with how much the other teams are fighting each
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other there's no one who can really trailblaze
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forward and sure yeah i mean so like their main
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competitor currently is v carb um and they are
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42 sorry 40 ish 39 ish points away yeah that's
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going to be tough to make up within four or three
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races four races especially with another race
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for them with a dnf and a p13 finish despite
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Despite how badly Williams has been turning up,
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I really feel like there's good pace in the car
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right now. They just are making mistakes or something's
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going wrong. Albon has been off pace recently,
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I will say. I don't think he's really done his
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best. But Sainz has shown great potential. It's
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just something goes wrong every single time.
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I don't pay the closest attention to Albon, but
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I feel like I recall him usually struggling in
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the later races in the year. I feel like he usually
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tends to struggle in the... last couple races
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you know it's hard for me to say i've really
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been paying attention to him this year like for
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like a lot um but it's possible i mean i mean
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neither of them had had have had like a great
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year up until halfway through right uh he himself
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albon is let's see he's eighth currently so he
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has he has put in some points he's quite quite
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far ahead than signs is to be fair but like recently
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i just signs on a really slow start yeah science
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is a really really bad start right so still giving
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albon his flowers obviously um it's just recently
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i just feel like he hasn't been to form yeah
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i mean signs has been surging ahead but just
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been really bad luck i mean i think in brazil
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in not brazil in mexico he had pit limiter issues
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so every time he went to the pit he would get
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a 10 second penalty and that's just like or drive
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through and then he'd go through get another
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drive through because he was still speeding so
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It's like so painful. It was so incredibly painful
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to watch him. Because I think, where did he start?
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He wasn't in points, but I think he was, I don't
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think he was too far off. Q2, I think? Let me
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see. Starting grid. I'm guessing 13th. He was
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12th. So not in points, but close -ish, I guess.
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Albon did climb a bit. He started in 17th and
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then 12th. But I mean, like, we had five. dnfs
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right or so three i think three dnfs and alpines
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so yeah five yeah good point you're right yeah
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three dnfs and yeah the alpines so you gotta
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get you gotta like you know what's getting 15th
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is not you know what's really interesting uh
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on the official standings no this doesn't make
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sense it doesn't show signs as having dnf for
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some reason even though he definitely did right
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But on the official standings on the F1 website,
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it says he finished in 17th. No, it doesn't.
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Never mind. Oh, okay. To be fair, he did finish
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in 17th, but like... But the other cards have
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no contest. But it's showing him as... As 17th.
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Yeah, weird. That might just be like a technical
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thing I don't understand. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, who
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knows? Semantics. File a complaint. Yeah, okay,
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I'll do that. Yep. But yeah, I feel like they've
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got pace. It's just a matter of... keeping it
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on track and their car working, I suppose. But
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otherwise, yeah, pretty disappointing. Yeah,
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it was a hard one to watch. But again, the body
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of work as a whole can't be that disappointed
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in the entire season. Just hopefully they can
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finish out strong, lock up fifth. And nobody
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would have had them other than you, right, Joe?
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Or who had them fifth? I don't think any of us
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had them. None of us had them fifth. I had them
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sixth, so I had them the highest out of, I think,
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us. Nobody would have thought they would. Going
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into halfway through the season, I'm like, Williams
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could do it. Williams could get fifth. They've
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had a decent season. If they aren't working on
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their car anymore, they could have a decent 2026.
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We'll see. The historic team on the rise. Let's
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see. Oh, and I do have some news about them when
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we get to news. For Williams? Yeah. Oh, okay.
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They made an announcement, I think, yesterday.
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Oh, yeah. I think I know what you're talking
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about. Oh, sweet. Yeah. Bring that on. Bring
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that on. Ooh, it's Red Bull next, technically,
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with Yuki's P11 that we're talking about. Yeah.
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Okay. Yep. Max, all I had was he was just out
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here mowing lawns early on, really sending it.
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The angle of the video that you showed me before
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we started from somebody in the stands is just
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pure insanity. Yeah. I mean, the kahunas like
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truly it doesn't say on him the like whatever
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camera angle i mean like it's still crazy seeing
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him do it from the camera angle f1 provided but
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like from that phone view you see how fast he
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truly was going the entire time he was going
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over that grass he like it almost looked like
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he didn't slow down like he was no i imagine
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it was flooring it all the way through crazy
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crazy yeah so gotta give him props for I guess
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not putting it in the wall, I think any lesser
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driver is in the wall, 100%. For sure. I mean,
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it was a crazy move. He did give a position back
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that he took. I don't think... There was a lot
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of... There were a lot of wrong things that happened
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here, and there were a lot of penalties given
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out, or there were definitely a lot of things
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noted, and there were a couple penalties given
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out. I don't think, this is not me hating Max.
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I just feel like he cut the corners a little
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too much at times. He was driving a little too
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fast under the virtual safety car at the end
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with Charles. He gained a lot of time there,
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and nothing was even, I think the fact that nothing
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was even. noted just kind of rubbed me the wrong
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way. I feel a little bit better if it was at
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least noted. How much time did he grab? He grabbed
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straight up I feel like six tenths to a second.
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Did you see that Charles actually made a comment
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in regard to Max under the safety car? He made
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a comment to his engineer being like, Max, that's
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a penalty for sure. You caught up so much under
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the safety car. He goes, make sure they look
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at Max. And I guess they looked at Max and decided
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everything was... It was kosher. I don't know,
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man. Listen, I don't want to say it's 2021, but
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the FAA are keeping its chances alive, okay?
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I want to point out that they've got way more
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information on his telemetry than we do. You're
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right. I'm a side observer. You're completely
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correct. I think that the... I'm a side observer.
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I am of the standpoint that the... I was like,
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what? Him running off the side of the road and
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cutting the grass, right? Especially because
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he gave the position back when he did that to,
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I think it was Lewis. He ran Lewis off the road.
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No, we're not talking about that. In turn one,
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lap one, turn one. I think he ran off the road.
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I think it was Charles he gave the position back
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to, right? That I had no quarrels with. I'm like,
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okay, you know, you did your thing. He did overtake
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somebody off the track and gave the position
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back right away. That's fine. I don't think he
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should have gotten a penalty for that. I think
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where he should have gotten the penalty for,
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if he was going to get a penalty, was when he
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was racing against Lewis and he was wheel bumping
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against Lewis. I was like, I could see him taking
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a five second for that. And I was a little surprised
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he didn't take one, to be fair. Um, I think all
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of the arguments about him going off the road
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and him forcing Lewis off the road was like,
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you know, they were racing that dive bomb that
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Lewis made on him. Lewis was never making that
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corner with how he, with how deep he took that
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and how late he broke. He was never making that
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corner, especially not with a car on the inside.
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So I don't think that was max forcing him off
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the road. I think that was Lewis going for a
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gap that wasn't there. Um, so I, I think if he
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was going to get a penalty, it should have been
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for the wheel bumping, but say Libby. Sure. yeah
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i don't know i i just i feel like he was overlooked
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a little bit this race i think i was like like
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i said at least expecting noted like he made
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some moves that were a little questionable i
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think one of the arguments i had immediately
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and i and i don't I still think I'd have to like
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really talk it out. And I don't even, I don't
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even fully believe myself currently is like,
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he was so far away from Russell. He was so far
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ahead of Russell that it doesn't make sense that
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he should have to give the place back to Russell
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or anything. Right. That being said, coming,
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going off track. keeping your speed then coming
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back on and still being ahead of someone who's
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you're kind of sort of fighting with or at least
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is right there it's still a little weird just
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because it's like well yes it's unlikely that
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george would have got him anyway but we don't
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know because he went off track and then he stayed
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in his position that still could be seen as gaining
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an advantage a little bit at the end of the day
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he probably didn't but it was a little weird
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that none of it was really like noted i would
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have been more inclined to agree with that if
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it weren't for the fact that he had more than
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a car length ahead of George Russell. Like, literally,
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he was at parity with the two Ferraris, and that
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meant that George was fully behind all three
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of them. And at that point, like, George isn't
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fighting that position. So, like, there's no
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reason for them to give it back. Sure. As for
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Yuki Sonoda for Red Bull, qualified in points,
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didn't finish in points. End of story. I mean,
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that's... End of story. Yeah, that's rough. That's
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it. That's tough. Got to finish in points, man.
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Haas. Bierman finishing fourth, but Ocon with
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ninth. Are we at Haas already? Holy cow. Yeah,
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we're at Haas. Yeah. I mean, I wore the whole
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getup. I got the whole getup. This was the great
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day. I was on a call with Joe when we were watching
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the race together, and the whole... kerfuffle
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that happened during the race where you know
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max and lewis had their thing and just oliver
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behrman was just there and he was just like don't
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mind me i'm just gonna come on through and we
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saw him get ahead and slot himself into fourth
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And then they slapped Lewis Hamilton with that
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10 second penalty. And I literally was out of
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my chair like, oh my God, Oliver's on the podium.
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Like, what are the odds that he holds this? And
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as the race went on, I was like, okay, okay,
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this is looking kind of bad. And they made their
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one, which might have been seen as an off call,
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having him pit that second pit stop that was
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late. It was in reaction to... Almost everyone
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else doing it. Yeah, like pretty much all the
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frontrunners except for Max, right? I think Max
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did it too. No, I don't think he did. I think
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Max took a one -stopper, didn't he? Maybe you're
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right. Yeah, I'm fairly certain Max took a one
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-stopper. Yep, one. so yeah so pretty much everyone
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but max did it right and so haas took the call
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that they saw everybody else making into haas's
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defense they're not used to running this far
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up i don't think so there was a lot of one stops
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there were a lot of one stops i Yeah, I mean,
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that was an interesting, not a move that I saw
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a lot of teams doing, but yeah, it was a weird
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thing seeing them all kind of move on to another
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stop near the end there. I don't think it would
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have changed much for Behrman, unfortunately.
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I mean, you got Verstappen chasing you. There's
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no way. Verstappen on fresher tires in the faster
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car. The better driver, he's going to get him.
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Yeah. They see him as like, this is not like
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a possibility he gets you. This is like, he's
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definitely going to get you. No matter when.
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Yeah. And so like, let's pitch you and see if
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maybe you can get him back. Just like. Exactly.
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Yeah. Maybe. Right. And he obviously couldn't.
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Yeah. That's fine. But fourth. But fourth is
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awesome. One of Haas's best finishes ever. Yeah.
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Right. In his rookie season. Ollie's best finish
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ever. Now there's a bunch of talk about, you
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know, the Tifosi are clambering for Oliver Behrman
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to come to Ferrari. So it's pretty exciting.
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And then Esteban Ocon gave him his flowers. He
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raced his way up into the points. He got points.
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So that's a double point finish for Haas. We
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are very happy. These upgrades we got at Koda
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are paying dividends. Truly. Dividends. You mentioned
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Tafosi, so let's go with Ferrari right here because
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Hamilton finished 8th. Charles getting P2. Joe
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looks stressed out. Do you remember where my
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podium was, Melty? I have it here, Joe. Your
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podium was Max, Lando, and Lewis. Do you know
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how excited I was? that he qualified third, I
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was like, oh, my God, it's going to happen. He's
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going to get a podium, and I won't get a perfect
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one because hopefully Verstappen is nowhere near
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the podium, but I could get a good amount of
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points here, and you guys wouldn't get that many.
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And then, oh, man, that 10 -second penalty, bro.
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Killer. Killer. killer is that standard for the
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cutting the corners 10 okay i think recently
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it has been it has at least at the later part
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of like seasons i've seen them more this season
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it has been the standard for leaving the track
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and gaining an advantage for that particular
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that particular and then yeah his week has just
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got worse and worse like as the pit stops kind
21:06
of happened he just could there's just no way
21:07
he was catching up yeah it was it was really
21:10
really rough he he started in a really good position
21:12
and just yeah that 10 second killed him man That
21:15
was really, really rough. I was nervous when
21:17
I saw that him and Max were fighting because,
21:19
boy, those two, they get their elbows out. I
21:22
was excited. No, and that's what I put down for
21:24
underneath the Max Bowles. It was nice to see
21:29
a legit fight between those two again. Just,
21:30
you know, real quick, a little brief one. God,
21:32
they fight like the Dickens. Yeah. They fight
21:35
like the Dickens. Yeah, I love it. All right.
21:38
Yeah. Probably a deserved penalty, though. He
21:40
did, like, it was like a weird cut. But he did
21:43
definitely come out on track way ahead of everyone
21:45
else, way more than he should have. And the commentators
21:48
were clamoring like his team should have told
21:50
him to back up. And I was like, yeah, probably.
21:52
So it's like a Ferrari L. I don't know if it's
21:54
exactly Hamilton's fault. It's definitely...
21:56
Mixable. He's the one driving, right? Yeah, right.
21:58
The team's not driving the car, but they can
22:01
also see how much ground he just gained on that.
22:06
Okay, okay. Still, we need a Ferrari fan. We'd
22:09
love to hear from you. Comment, whatever. You
22:11
know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Let's see, who
22:13
would be next? Is it Mercedes? I mean, really
22:14
quick, we'll call you second. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
22:16
Charles. Yeah, great finish. He was able to hold
22:19
P2 because... We didn't even talk about this
22:21
yet. That weird VSC at the end of the race. So,
22:26
okay, I don't know if we brought... Did you guys...
22:28
I was kind of in my own space for a second there.
22:30
I was going non -verbal for a second. Did you
22:32
guys talk about the Marshall and Lawson thing
22:34
that happened? Not really because I was saving
22:37
it for the quick thoughts. Okay, I'll just knock
22:40
it out right here really quick because I think
22:42
these are the two biggest... That plus the Lawson
22:47
thing. So... signs spins out hits the track a
22:51
little bit and pulls forward almost completely
22:53
out of the track yep right vsc comes out and
22:57
the commandeer said he looks like he's in a safe
22:59
it looks like he's in a pretty safe spot um it
23:01
makes i i totally agree double yellow that section
23:04
that sector fine that makes sense but a vsc to
23:09
pull a car probably 10 feet little weird um lawson
23:15
uh had a a very a very random or impromptu pit
23:21
stop um so he was very far away from the pack
23:24
um and so marshalls went on track thinking it
23:26
was clear and there's a video of lawson turning
23:29
the corner almost directly into the marshalls
23:32
um very very quickly i'm going on a side tangent
23:36
to my tangent very very quickly people online
23:38
were like i can't believe he would do that he
23:40
didn't even move he's like that's not on lawson
23:42
even in the slide no that's on fia that's on
23:44
the stewards that's on the marshals 100 100 not
23:46
on lawson no i bet i another point was like he
23:49
probably he it's good he didn't move because
23:51
then he's unpredictable if he moves right so
23:53
it's good he kept his line um We get a VSC for
23:57
a car that's off track completely, but marshals
24:00
are standing on the track with the car incoming
24:03
and a yellow flag. That's crazy to me. So I heard
24:09
a rebuttal to this because it's been a hot talking
24:14
point for the last two weeks, right? And I don't
24:17
disagree with a point that was made, or at least...
24:20
It's a wrong call for the FIA to make, but I
24:22
see why they made it. And it's because they were
24:24
overcompensating. They watched that happen and
24:28
they saw the Carlos signs needed to get. into
24:33
the space carlos signs was not as far in as he
24:36
was supposed to be his back tires were still
24:38
out and so that's why they waved the double yellows
24:42
was because he needed to get in and they weren't
24:45
able to pull his car in so they needed marshals
24:47
to get out onto the track and push his car in
24:50
so to the what runoff onto the runoff to push
24:53
his car in yeah so this The person who I saw
24:56
online was theorizing that the reason that the
24:58
FIA did a VSC was because of the blowback from
25:02
what happened earlier with the Lawson thing,
25:03
that they didn't want to take a risk on something
25:05
else. So they overcompensated and did this, called
25:10
out the safety car to be like, look, guys, we
25:13
do care about the marshals and we do care about
25:16
their safety. And it wound up. biting them in
25:19
the butt like even more yeah but the first one
25:21
was definitely still a massive f up like you
25:24
massively effed up but i see you can't make up
25:27
for it with that though i see where the logic
25:30
comes from in their head now and i'm like this
25:32
i see how it happened trying to save face like
25:34
that you're trying to save face like okay honestly
25:37
honestly i wouldn't i don't think i would have
25:40
even been i probably would have been like this
25:42
is kind of weird but like like i would if they
25:46
put the vsc out for the first incident with lawson
25:49
yeah probably wouldn't have hurt as much if they
25:51
did it again for signs because they're doing
25:53
the same thing essentially right but it yeah
25:55
like because i mean the same thing could have
25:57
happened someone could have gone off just like
25:59
signs and then hit the marshals as they're pulling
26:01
out out the car right exactly so it makes sense
26:03
that they slow them down marshals were I think
26:06
you're right, actually. I think that was a very
26:08
good point. They did it because they're overcompensating
26:11
because they misjudged a serious situation. People
26:15
were standing on an active green flag, not green
26:21
flag, yellow flag track. That's crazy. And they
26:23
were not the last guy out of the two, or girl,
26:26
whoever, sorry, but the last person. of the two
26:31
people running back across the track like wasn't
26:33
even halfway back across by the time lawson was
26:35
coming around that corner they were still running
26:37
into the track to pick up more debris i feel
26:39
like yeah they were like halfway done just yeah
26:41
it's just and at the end of the day i don't blame
26:43
the marshals either it's just a horrible lack
26:45
of communication it was bad timing in general
26:47
in their ear like no no no no 100 huge really
26:51
bad timing because i mean like they're not expecting
26:54
someone to be pitting right there but lawson
26:56
is having issues it's still like there's cameras
26:58
everywhere like that's You would think there's
27:00
got to be way more eyes involved. There was some
27:03
break in comms, obviously. I doubt every single
27:06
Marshall has. I guess I don't know, actually.
27:11
Do they all have, like, headset? I don't think
27:13
they do. I think there's probably someone managing
27:15
them. Like a walkie -talkie or something. Yeah,
27:16
exactly. Like a supervisor for every corner or
27:19
something like that. I don't know. Yeah, so I
27:21
wanted to just say that since we were on LeClaire,
27:24
the yellow flag came out, stopped Max from getting
27:27
LeClaire. I think Max probably would have, honestly.
27:29
Max would have gotten him, for sure. Kastri was
27:31
also chasing down Bearman. Probably a little
27:33
less likely he got Bearman, but it would have
27:35
been a lot closer. Would have been closer. Would
27:36
have been way closer. So, yeah, that was kind
27:39
of the answer. end of the race there too cool
27:40
cool cool kind of a bummer uh real quick because
27:42
we gotta do keep this thing moving and i definitely
27:45
want to hear obviously your take on mclaren uh
27:48
real quick with mercedes kimmy finishing p6 george
27:51
russell finishing p7 um they might have made
27:55
i just put here they might have made the most
27:57
unmarvelous switch ever um it was intended entertaining
28:01
though because like I was just like, what is
28:05
going on? What are we doing? It was just such
28:07
a weird moment to make it happen, and I agree
28:09
with why they were switching, but that's the
28:14
reason why Oscar ended up getting passed. It
28:16
annoyed me, but whatever. I think Oscar probably
28:19
would have got them both at some point anyway,
28:21
but they just accelerated that process. Do you
28:24
think they should have kept positions, or do
28:26
you think they should have let Russell through
28:27
way quicker? I wish they would have done it quicker
28:30
just to see what happens, but I agree with Russell,
28:32
and I got his calm. That was amazing, and we'll
28:37
go over that in calm call -outs. But, you know,
28:42
I agree with – I wish they would have done it
28:43
quicker, and then I'm glad he's the one that
28:46
said, I'll give the position back if I cannot
28:48
catch him. You know, no big deal, but let me
28:50
go. I mean, it's got to be a tough pill to swallow,
28:53
though, after finally getting ahead and making
28:55
no traction. And then he has to give the position
28:58
back. It was so satisfying for me when he got
29:02
the call. All right, swap the cars. I could feel
29:05
his dread. Oh, yeah, for sure. But it was the
29:09
right call. 100%. It was the right call. And
29:12
look to next week, I guess. But McLaren. lando
29:18
with the p1 that's it this is the last one yeah
29:21
wow yeah teams were really spread out except
29:24
for alpine extremely yeah we're very close together
29:27
yeah but um except yeah i mean lando verstappen
29:31
did right he kept he kept p1 through t1 and he
29:34
he just brought it home and that's all she wrote
29:36
for lando so did he get a grand slam did he no
29:41
i do not oh actually he Grand slam just being
29:45
quality in the race? He starts in first, finishes
29:49
in first, holds first for every lap, and gets
29:52
fastest lap. I don't think he held first. I don't
29:57
think he held first either. I'll let you look
30:01
up on your tab there to see when they pit. I
30:04
don't think he got a grand slam. I don't think
30:06
so either. Either way. It's still a dominant
30:09
drive. Absolutely dominant drive. He finished.
30:14
30 seconds ahead of Leclerc. It was in the bag.
30:21
He takes the lead of the World Driver Championship.
30:25
Really big thing to note as well. He is now one
30:28
point ahead. Is he only really one point? One
30:32
point ahead of Oscar Piastri. He's one point
30:35
ahead of Oscar Piastri. So it begs the question,
30:40
it was a tough race for Piastri. He capitalized
30:42
on it being a tough race, something he wasn't
30:44
able to do in Baku. Piastri kind of out of form
30:49
recently. Extremely out of form recently. Do
30:53
you guys have any takes on why that might be?
30:55
He's got to be in his head. I don't know because
30:58
it's extremely weird. He's definitely nowhere
31:02
near as aggressive as he was earlier in the season.
31:06
And we weren't comparing him to Max by any means.
31:08
We were like, he was making like Max -esque moves,
31:12
you know, as far as being aggressive. So it's
31:15
just, I don't know what happened. I don't know
31:17
if he's trying to play it more conservative and
31:19
it's just completely backfiring on him. He's
31:22
just trying to be a little bit safer. After that
31:24
whole, I can't remember what race it was. It's
31:26
probably like, what, five races ago when him
31:28
and Lando got into it a little bit. So I don't
31:32
know if that kind of changed him. Was it that
31:33
moment that now things have changed a little
31:35
bit? Maybe. Even though he got the upper hand
31:37
at that moment. But I don't know. I don't know.
31:39
It's weird. It's extremely weird. Because what's
31:42
Lando's lead right now? One or something? One
31:44
point? Yeah. What do you think, Mark? I think
31:47
he's historically been not fabulous in the Americas.
31:53
I mean, obviously, he did pretty well in Canada.
31:57
But even then, though, still a third -place finish.
32:00
Like, yeah, historically. Oh, and he did win
32:04
Miami, didn't he? I don't remember. That was
32:09
a while ago. Either way, I feel like historically
32:11
he's not been super great in the Americas. He
32:14
struggled in the Americas. And I mean, he's struggled
32:18
his time here. Like he did win in Miami. Yeah.
32:23
His last win was Zandvoort. So it was after break.
32:26
Right after break. But that was also after Lando
32:32
had DNF'd and McLaren DNF'd. Max Verstappen has
32:35
had more wins after break than McLaren as a whole.
32:38
Yeah. Interesting. Have you heard the Kimi Antonelli
32:43
T102 or TIO2 theory? It's like a stupid internet
32:49
theory that Kimi Antonelli, anytime he's in a
32:53
state or a country... where a TIO2 is like a
32:56
type of food dye, and it's banned in certain
32:58
countries, and anywhere that this food is banned,
33:01
he finishes outside the points, and anywhere
33:03
it's legal, he finishes in the points. Who figured
33:06
this out? Some guy on Reddit. Who knew this?
33:08
Somebody else on Reddit. What the heck? Somebody
33:11
else on Reddit has turned this around and found
33:13
Oscar Piastri's bugbear, and it's like anywhere
33:16
that he needs to fly to that's outside of Europe,
33:19
if he needs to fly to a country, he notoriously
33:22
finishes poorly at. versus if he's in the Europe
33:27
area, then he notoriously finishes well. Interesting.
33:31
His average points were 15 when he has to fly
33:36
versus 25 when he doesn't. 20 when he doesn't.
33:40
That's crazy. It's like you're insane for thinking
33:46
who this is. You don't have your comforts around?
33:51
Who knows? world yeah but i mean wow i mean it's
33:56
the pressure yeah maybe it is the flying thing
33:59
i think i think more realistically it's a combination
34:01
of i think it's a combination of him a uh struggling
34:07
with being at the front of the championship you
34:09
know first time fighting for a championship that
34:12
That drags on a driver. But also couple that
34:15
with him having car problems. He's been struggling
34:18
with car balance and whatnot. And the team can't
34:21
figure out what is going on and how to get him
34:23
to a more comfortable position. I think those
34:26
are really the big things that are affecting
34:27
him. Another little pattern that I also saw online.
34:32
You guys go way too deep into the internet. This
34:35
is truly just scrolling. I'm not looking anything
34:39
up. I don't know if that's better or worse. Almost
34:42
every single time. I mean, I'm on a podcast for
34:47
F1. Of course it's going to come up. What do
34:49
you mean by algorithm? I'm on a podcast for F1.
34:52
Goofy stats or something? You like to look over
34:54
them on TikTok. There was a pattern. there was
34:59
a pattern scene uh almost every time after lando
35:03
has won a race oscar's won the next one almost
35:05
every time the only the only uh The only time
35:09
that hasn't happened was Red Bull Ring and Silverstone
35:11
where Lando won both, but then Oscar won Spa
35:13
right after. And then Lando won Hungara Ring,
35:17
and then Oscar won Zandvoort. Other than Oscar's
35:22
four in a row, or three in a row, but four in
35:25
a row compared to Lando. I think one of us should
35:27
put Oscar in. So I know who I'm putting in first.
35:30
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. Just to keep the pattern
35:33
alive, you know? Hey, hey, hey, man. What do
35:35
I know? I'm a human. I see patterns. Fair enough,
35:38
fair enough. All right, let's move on here to
35:41
calm call -outs. We should really get a transition
35:44
for that, you know, like over or something, you
35:46
know what I mean? Live pitching. So what do you
35:52
got for calm call -outs? I truly, I think I only
35:55
have the stuff you have, so you go for it. Okay,
35:57
all right. Well, on lap six, the TV commentator,
35:59
and this is... There was a lot going on the first
36:02
few laps, in case you missed it. But the commentator
36:06
just goes, oh, what a melee. Like, things were
36:09
just, it was carnage, is what was going on. Yes.
36:14
And then there was, okay, Cav, I'm going to need
36:16
your help on this next one here. But then there
36:18
was this one from George, and it was awesome.
36:22
They wanted him to take care of his tires, and
36:25
he was a little upset. He said, I've got to f***.
36:28
car in my ass, okay? A car much quicker than
36:31
ours. Which was PS3, by the way. I'm trying to
36:34
hold position. I've got plenty more pace than
36:36
Kimmy here, and we can fight for a podium. I'm
36:38
happy to give the position back if I don't achieve
36:40
it, but my tires are just getting f***ing sacked
36:43
here. And they were just like, understood. God,
36:47
that was such a great call -out. It was a good
36:49
call -out. I have two more Russell ones that
36:52
I want to comment as well. He's getting fired
36:53
up. It was all around the same things. I'll need
36:56
a little help for this one, too. I apologize.
36:59
I think this one was before yours. He says...
37:04
russell says i've got a mclaren up my ass want
37:07
me to let him pass his engineer says no thank
37:10
you russell responds with okay just checking
37:12
and then i think this was that was lap uh that
37:19
was lap 38 lap 41 russell's engineer says tire
37:23
service temps are too high and he responds with
37:25
marcus i've got a car up my ass Dude, George
37:31
really took it home this week. He was mad, man.
37:35
It was so good. This was not Scooby -Doo George
37:37
anymore. These are some Fernando Alonso call
37:40
-outs, and I am here for it. Mark, I've never
37:43
heard him use his engineer's name before. He
37:47
was so angry. I didn't even know his engineer's
37:50
name was Marcus. Oh, my gosh. Oh, God, yeah.
37:55
For those few laps, he was on one. Do you want
37:57
me to let him pass? No. No. Okay, just check
38:00
it. But just imagine being in the car knowing
38:02
there's literally nothing else you can be doing
38:05
right now. And they're just like, hey, get your
38:07
stuff together. Get from here. I'm crying. All
38:16
right. Let's see. Let's see. Quick thoughts from
38:19
the boys. We didn't have any quick thoughts.
38:21
The only one we did was the Liam Lawson thing
38:23
barreling down towards the marshals. And we already
38:27
covered that. So all good. i guess i guess you
38:31
had one little bit of news so we won't do the
38:32
transition for this i don't even know if we have
38:34
one for news anyway so uh yeah so you heard the
38:44
same news um so williams actually announced uh
38:47
i think in the last day or two here that they
38:49
were going to be changing their their logo and
38:52
the way they represent themselves to, uh, an
38:55
older logo that they used back in their original
38:58
years, just changing the W right. Really changing
39:01
their logo. And so moving forward, that'll be
39:04
their new logo starting in 2026. Uh, okay. New
39:08
life. New life. And they made a big precedent
39:12
of talking about how this is to represent their
39:14
times when they were constructors, champions,
39:17
and how they were at the front of the pack. And
39:18
they said that they're aiming to do that again.
39:20
So big news in that. That's cool. Along the same
39:24
lines of that, they also have a livery coming
39:28
for Brazil. They're doing a golf livery. love
39:32
the golf liveries mclaren had it for a little
39:34
bit and then williams took it over oh i love
39:37
the golf liveries we're gonna see that baby blue
39:39
with orange it's gonna be great it's gonna be
39:41
majestic also um lauren mechies has made announcements
39:46
saying that they are going to continue improving
39:49
this red bull car we are expecting to see an
39:52
upgrade coming in sao paulo for max verstappen
39:57
It is in part to help Verstappen in the championship,
40:01
but also because they want to get their processes
40:05
down. Lauren Mechies is really doing a lot of
40:09
upheaval from where the prior team principal
40:13
left it. For you Spotify listeners, Joe has taken
40:21
off his hat and placed it over his heart. He's
40:24
processing this right now. During the transition,
40:28
we expect him to call his mom. She's been calling
40:31
me. Oh, man. That is my news. That's the news.
40:38
It looks cool. I looked at it. Are they going
40:41
to be competitive off the bat next year? Yeah.
40:43
So Lauren, Lauren actually did say that he goes,
40:46
this might affect our car for next year. We noticed,
40:48
we know that they're just focusing max. They're
40:51
like, we're going to get this man is for championship.
40:52
I mean, that's, that's part of it. But also the
40:55
other part of it is that Lauren is trying to,
40:57
like I said, he's trying to rebuild a lot of
40:59
things and change the structure of how the team
41:01
is ran. And so that's coming from the technical
41:04
side. So yeah, I suppose. Yeah. I mean, if you,
41:08
and if you get. Well, no, you don't get more
41:11
time. They want to get this assembled and get
41:14
this figured out now when they have all the variables
41:17
as opposed to before next year when not only
41:21
do they need to try and fix things that are left
41:23
over so that Lauren can make changes, but also
41:26
they need to work on their car, a brand new car
41:28
at the same time. I got something juicy, but
41:34
we're going to wait. Let's move on to the preview.
41:39
Of the Brazil GP. Kev. Hit that. Whatever. Transition.
41:46
Transition. And I am here to bring you up to
41:55
speed for the Formula One MSC Cruises Grande
41:58
Premio de Sao Paulo 2025. We have a sprint weekend
42:02
ahead. Of course, as always, our fun fact, Interlagos
42:06
was built on a plot of land unsuitable for housing,
42:08
so they turned it into a track. Mike, with the
42:10
weather. Oh, wow. This came up to me rather abruptly.
42:14
I was just showing this off to you. I was just
42:18
showing him the weather. So currently it is showing
42:20
the weather for Sao Paulo on Sunday afternoon
42:22
at 68 degrees Fahrenheit, roughly about 20 degrees
42:27
Celsius for our... Nervous about something? Our
42:31
non -imperial friends. I saw 20 % rain. There
42:33
was zero when I looked this morning. Oh, yeah.
42:35
Currently a 20 % chance of rain. And depending
42:39
upon who you're asking, they're saying that we
42:41
could see more chances of rain. Oh, yeah. During
42:43
the race, by the way. So I read it would be wet
42:47
for the start, probably, because rain was coming
42:50
beforehand. But Brazil has shocked us before.
42:54
Brazil is notably very rainy, especially this
42:57
time of year. And I will be letting that influence
43:02
my predictions 100%. So looking at last week,
43:07
last year's Brazil race. I'm sorry. If you hear
43:13
a bunch of banging around, there is a very lovable,
43:18
big boned. Golden Retriever upstairs. Oh, that's
43:23
Cooper. Okay, so it's the younger Golden Retriever
43:25
just absolutely hot around upstairs. That's what
43:28
you may hear in the background. But you can't
43:30
stop us from getting up to speed, so let's go.
43:32
Let's go through last year's race. And before
43:36
we even get to the starting grid, we have a bit
43:38
of carnage to get through. Yes. Wet track. Stroll
43:41
gives his ass in a nice little spin off track
43:43
and into the grass across the shoulder, tapping
43:45
his front wing into the barrier. As he makes
43:47
his way back to track, instead of taking the
43:49
paved road right in front of him, he decides
43:51
to cut through the beach and he gets stuck there.
43:53
Ending any chance of him racing in Brazil. We're
43:57
at the grid. Lander to George to Yuki in the
43:59
top three. They lead the track off the line on
44:02
an aborted start. Wrongly. A couple of folks
44:05
were noted for starting procedure infringements
44:07
as they should have stayed in place instead of
44:09
starting another formation lap. I don't believe
44:11
any in race penalties were given. I think it
44:14
was fine. Max was upset. Yeah, Max was definitely
44:18
upset. He was like, they shouldn't have done
44:19
that. You have to wait for the green. A little
44:25
later. We finally get underway through T1. George
44:28
makes up the first position on Lando with the
44:30
Alpine of Ocon starting to fight Yuki for third.
44:33
You heard that, the Alpine. Yep. Later in the
44:35
lap, Checo in the second Red Bull spins and loses
44:37
all of his positions except for one, ending up
44:39
in 18th ahead of Albon. Ali picks up a 10 -second
44:43
penalty for hitting the back of Colapinto. No
44:45
huge damage, but a collision nonetheless. Nonetheless?
44:48
Nonetheless. Take it easy, Mike Tyson. Oh, man.
44:52
Somewhere in there, Albon also retires from the
44:55
race. All right. Max Verstappen starting his
44:58
race in 17th. By lap five, he is making his way
45:02
into the points, getting past Hamilton and then
45:05
Gasly. He keeps his stride and makes his way
45:09
past Alonso and Piastri for seventh by lap 10,
45:12
making up a position per lap. Lap 26. The wet.
45:30
The wet. Under the safety car, Colapinto's made
45:48
an absolute wreckage of his car after finding
45:51
the barriers while losing control on track. This
45:53
brings out the red flag, during which we found
45:56
that the marshals did help push Hulkenberg off
45:58
of his impeachment, effectively disqualifying
46:01
him from the weight race. What's up? Just a mid...
46:04
No, you're good. I think you should take a breath.
46:07
You're killing it. How you guys doing? Good?
46:08
Good, I'm good. Green lap on lap 34 as Ocon leads
46:11
Verstappen and his teammate Gasly through the
46:13
new lap. That's Ocon Verstappen and then... You
46:16
heard. Russell and Norris behind them. The track's
46:19
still very wet, and Lando seeming to struggle
46:21
a little bit to get himself back up front as
46:23
he goes off track while attacking Russell. Unfortunately,
46:27
sticking behind. Two laps later, we watch Bearman
46:30
take a turn and doesn't come out of it, getting
46:31
into a spin and digging his nose into the barrier.
46:34
Low damage, he pulls himself out and gets back
46:36
on track. Just in time, three laps later for
46:38
Science to spin into the barrier, taking a part
46:40
of his wing, retiring himself, and bringing out
46:42
the safety car. We get a restart on lap 42. Ocon
46:45
still leading Max, but not for long as he takes
46:47
the lead into T1. A little further down, Norris
46:49
goes off again, losing a handful of positions,
46:52
including to his teammate. Russell gets past
46:54
Leclerc a few laps later after Charles finds
46:56
himself off track slightly. Lap 69, we finally
47:00
make it to the end of the hectic race for Stappen,
47:01
leading two Alpines by 19 seconds. A brilliant
47:04
game for Alpine, truly making their season. Nice.
47:09
Brazil was nuts last year. So good. It was a
47:12
race and a half, and it took like the full...
47:14
Three hours to get through it, I think. The whole
47:16
time you were reading that, it just felt like...
47:18
Can I just say, like, my favorite race of all
47:23
time currently is Nico's first podium, right?
47:26
I love that race. This race is a close second.
47:30
Because, like, the absolute, like, masterclass
47:34
out of Verstappen, I mean, I can't. I don't have
47:37
words. Yeah, it was a race. That's for sure.
47:40
I forgot he started that far back. I can't remember.
47:43
Do you guys remember why? He took... I think
47:46
he had a grid place penalty, plus he took...
47:48
No, he just had... He had engine parts. He's
47:50
replacing engine parts, if I remember correctly.
47:53
I think he qualified low, lower than he should
47:55
have been, and then took penalties. He qualified
48:01
in second, and then got pushed out. He was actually
48:03
knocked out in Q2. And then he did take a new
48:06
ICE before the race. And so he got a five -place
48:09
good penalty on top of that. So he qualified
48:11
12th. So that was bad qualifying. Yeah, bad qualifying.
48:18
There's also rain. Oh, because rain and red flags
48:20
during qualifying. This was quite possibly the
48:23
best race I could have ever have hoped for as
48:26
an Alpine fan, and I will never see it again.
48:28
I understand. I hope I do. It's not going to
48:32
be this year. It's definitely not. That was exciting.
48:37
That was exciting. Other than, I think Pierre
48:39
podiumed... When was that? Two years ago? Three
48:42
years ago? There was that one random one. I'm
48:44
trying to remember where that was. And then I
48:45
think Esteban had podiumed the year beforehand.
48:48
I think he did also podium. They both just kind
48:50
of stumbled their way into podiums. I'll take
48:54
it this week. Was it Monza? They're not going
48:55
to be in my podium. Yes, it was Monza. Monza,
48:57
yeah. Where? Who, Pierre? Yeah, he podiumed in
49:00
Monza in 20... 23. Come on, show me it. Give
49:07
it to me. Give it to me. Shortly one of these
49:12
days. So he was still in the AlphaTauri at that
49:14
time. Yeah. That's what it was. Unless he did
49:16
he podium again in the. I could have sworn he
49:18
did. I don't know. I don't know. AlphaTauri.
49:21
That makes sense. I knew it was a while ago.
49:24
But yeah. Okay. All right. You're still riding
49:26
that high. Sprint race. No, I'm definitely not.
49:30
Not after this season. It's been really crappy.
49:32
He podiumed at the Dutch Grand Prix in 2023 as
49:34
well. Yep. Oh, okay. I knew he podiumed in 2023.
49:37
Okay. So, okay. So, he's got his fair share.
49:40
So, he should just be in a better car, man. I'll
49:42
jump ship with him. It's fine. Dude, he would
49:44
actually be crazy good if he were in a front
49:46
-running car. Oh, actually, Mercedes. Like, genuinely
49:51
put him in a Red Bull. That's not going to happen.
49:54
No, you're right. It won't. And, no. I don't
49:57
know where he could go. Anyway. All right. Sprint
50:00
race again. Yeah. Yeah. So there's that. Okay.
50:04
You already gave us the weather. That's good.
50:09
Points update. Joe, 47 points. Mike, 53 points.
50:17
I'm sorry. Me next. Smelty, 52 points. Mike in
50:20
the lead with 53 points. Look at me go. Look
50:24
at you go with four races to go. Four races to
50:27
go. You've got to start taking chances. I am
50:29
going to. I'm going to have to. George Russell,
50:31
Charles Leclerc. I took a chance with Lewis and
50:34
he failed me. I took a chance with Lewis and
50:37
truly I was almost there. That would have been
50:40
crazy. That would have actually helped us. But
50:43
no dice. We're starting with me. Me first? What
50:48
are you talking about? He needs all the help
50:51
he can get over here. You got it. In third. is
50:57
going to be George Russell. What the heck? And
50:59
I'm calling an audible on this, okay? I'm calling
51:02
an audible on my podium here. So George Russell
51:05
in third. In second, we're going to have Max
51:09
Verstappen. You're crazy. You're crazy. You don't
51:13
expect it to rain that much, do you? And in first
51:16
is going to be Oscar Piastri. Wow. That makes
51:22
my podium so much easier. That's crazy. Smeltsy.
51:28
Oscar Lando Max. You didn't even think about
51:31
it. Okay, well, then the decision is incredibly,
51:34
you guys made my job so easy. Lando's taking
51:37
the win. No, I could do Max, though. Maybe I
51:42
should do Max. Max would be a really good idea.
51:44
Okay, I'm changing my mind. I know I shouldn't
51:47
be doing this. Max, you did Lando second. No.
51:51
It's okay. Do Oscar. Oscar Lando. Charles Lando.
51:58
George Russell. George Russell. I picked George
52:04
Russell. I am happy. I'm very proud of you. I
52:07
just got over saying, wow, you guys made this
52:09
really easy for me. You didn't. Let's go. Not
52:12
even a little bit easy. I'm glad my audible changed
52:15
today. Oh, man. Have we taken anybody but Max,
52:17
Lando, Oscar, Charles, George, and Louis this
52:20
year? No. Who else would we take? I know. That's
52:24
all of them. Who else would we take? I just rattled
52:26
them all off. Kimmy. Kimmy. Kimmy. Not taking
52:30
Kimmy. Oh, man. He beat Charles. I mean, he beat
52:34
George. Sorry. He sure did. This is so tough.
52:38
Beat Charles. I mean, I'm sure he has, actually.
52:44
At least once, right? Gabby Bortoletto. Dude,
52:48
it's his home race. I'm so excited. Oh, yes.
52:50
Points for Gabby in a home race. Max Lando Charles.
52:53
Max Lando Charles. I got to get someone else
52:57
other than... Yeah, okay. I see. I see. You don't
53:01
want to go Oscar because you want to go. Oscar's
53:03
in a bad form and he did not do well last year
53:06
here. Okay. For whatever it's worth, I came into
53:09
here when my podium decided that I was going
53:12
to pick Max Lando George. But the pattern. He
53:17
messed me up. I'm actually rooting for you. I'm
53:21
rooting for you. No offense. Just because I do
53:23
want to see the pattern. I want to see the meme
53:25
happen. I picked Oscar to win, too. I'm cool
53:28
with that. Oh, yeah. High five. Oscar, if Lando
53:32
gets second, then you win because you have Lando
53:34
second. Yeah. And it's all good. And then we'll
53:36
just put Max at third. And then I just get a
53:38
six pointer. And then you just get a six pointer.
53:40
That's good. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, and then
53:42
we can get Charles in there. That'd be cool,
53:43
right, guys? Right, guys? Right, guys? Guys?
53:46
I'm so far behind. It's not even happening. Hey,
53:49
do you guys want to do any bonus points late?
53:51
You really need Charles. Where are we putting
53:53
Gabby Bortoletto? We do need bonus points. It's
53:55
home race. I actually have an idea for bonus
53:57
points next year. I'm thinking, okay, I'll just
54:00
pitch this now because you've already been pitching
54:02
stuff. Live pitch? I love pitching. Hear this.
54:05
This is for our two listeners. If you want to
54:08
pitch in, comment as well. What if we have a
54:12
wild card driver? So we pick a driver from the
54:15
bottom 10 that finishes this year to be on the
54:18
podium anywhere next year. And if they eventually
54:20
do get on the podium, we get like maybe two points
54:23
just like given to us for free. Even if we don't
54:26
put him in the podium for that weekend. That's
54:27
kind of cool. So, like, okay, so, like, Sides
54:30
is my wildcard driver, right? But we got to come
54:31
up with something else, because, like, I think
54:33
a wildcard for the beginning. No, in addition
54:36
to, right? Oh, okay, cool. I like it, but it's
54:40
bad. Here's a question, though. Are we taking
54:42
bottom 10? Teams? No, drivers. Your wild card
54:49
can only be someone in the bottom 10. So that's
54:51
kind of whack, though, because Carlos Sainz is
54:53
such an easy pick. Because you think about it,
54:55
too. That also means that I could put Fernando
54:57
Alonso on my podium. Correct. Yeah, that's fine.
55:01
Oh, actually, no, maybe it's not. Are you kidding
55:03
me? That's what I'm saying. It's like Fernando
55:05
Alonso. But maybe we have to workshop a little
55:07
bit. So maybe it's like the lower they are, the
55:10
more points you get. Like maybe we divide it
55:12
in two or something like that. I say we pick
55:13
the bottom five teams of constructors and one
55:16
of those drivers. I mean, that actually doesn't
55:17
work. We can still pick Fernando Alonso. What
55:19
if we just do bottom five drivers, right? Bottom
55:22
five drivers? Well, then that sucks because two
55:26
-fifths of it is Alpine. So really, you only
55:35
get to pick between three drivers. You only get
55:37
to pick between three. That's really messed up,
55:40
son. It's not that funny, Joe. That's kind of
55:44
funny. Get your stuff together. It's kind of
55:45
funny. I'm not on the pod, but that's more like
55:49
a full season, right? The wild card is like a
55:51
full season bonus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think
55:53
we need like an every week bonus. No, no, it
55:55
isn't every week. Oh, that's active every week.
55:57
You have a wild card driver. If they ever...
56:00
get on the podium that's an automatic like point
56:02
right on right on right on right on but i think
56:05
that's not i think we workshop it we need another
56:07
exactly point though i'm down yeah like that
56:10
one's a bigger point i like you get more points
56:12
for getting that one right yeah then we have
56:13
like an every week so but but think about it
56:15
you could get like you could get you could get
56:17
your podium no you couldn't that wouldn't make
56:18
sense i was about to say you could get your podium
56:20
spot on and then you could also get no you couldn't
56:21
do that but you could get like seven points maybe
56:24
if we make the point big enough you know i like
56:26
the idea I like the idea of, like, pick a driver,
56:30
and if that driver gets on the podium at any
56:32
point during the year, you get a small haul of
56:35
points, just, like, three or four points, whatever,
56:36
you know? And it'll be a one -time, just, like...
56:39
Wait, we're getting detailed here. Just, we do
56:41
that, right? And then we can do other things
56:42
biweekly, like, pick a... this weekend wildcard.
56:46
Who's your this weekend wildcard? Who do you
56:48
think is going to finish in the points? In the
56:50
points? I do like that idea. We did something
56:53
like that last year. That would be like a single
56:55
point. We did something like that last year,
56:59
didn't we? We had a podium. It didn't matter
57:03
what position. We just pick a podium. And then
57:06
we also had... We changed it every week. We changed
57:10
it every week. I do like that idea. I know me.
57:15
I personally love watching the back teams. I
57:18
love watching the midfield fight. The front pack.
57:20
It gives us and the listeners something to watch.
57:23
It kills me picking. I think I've picked four
57:27
different drivers this year to go on my podium
57:29
every single race. Between four drivers. That
57:33
kind of kills me inside. We'll come up with something.
57:35
I like it. We'll come up with something. Like
57:37
you said, we'll workshop it. We'll workshop it.
57:39
You know, in the post -off -season interviews,
57:41
the exit interviews, we'll see who comes back
57:43
next year. But we'll workshop it. We'll workshop
57:47
it. Yeah, well, Mike, thanks for being here,
57:50
man. Yeah, I'm glad to have been here. This was
57:52
fun. Me too. Yeah, things started getting out
57:55
of hand at the end, but it's all right. Joe,
57:58
that was a killer up to speed. Oh, thank you.
58:01
But it was a killer race. It was a killer race.
58:03
It was spoon -fed to you. No, I'm just kidding.
58:05
That was awesome. I was like, do I want to do
58:06
an up -to -speed? And I started doing it, and
58:08
I was like, oh, I need to do an up -to -speed.
58:09
Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a crazy race. No, it was
58:11
perfect. I'm glad you did. Excellent job, Kev.
58:15
Of course, great job getting everything done
58:17
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actually here next week again. We're not. Okay,
58:31
I lied. I like lying. Next week is our last week
58:35
off, though. Yeah, and then it's the end of the
58:37
season. It's race, race, race, and then we're
58:39
done. Wait, really? Yeah, there's only three
58:41
left. Hold on, wait. Are we going Vegas, Qatar?
58:44
Abu Dhabi? Back to back to back. That's correct.
58:47
Awesome. This is our last break. You guys better
58:50
get ready. I'm so ready. I'm so ready. With that,
58:57
let's get out of here, fellas. Goodbye. Peace.
59:00
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