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Who's Ready For War? · The 3Ts: Tables, Tailgates, and Toploaders

• WEBVTT 00:00:11.250 --> 00:00:13.269 What's up, friends? Welcome to another episode 00:00:13.269 --> 00:00:15.810 of Tables, Tailgates, and Top Loaders. I am your 00:00:15.810 --> 00:00:18.410 host, TB, so happy to have you aboard for another 00:00:18.410 --> 00:00:21.489 episode of the 3Ts. Thank you very much for stopping 00:00:21.489 --> 00:00:24.309 in and checking out the podcast. So, so much 00:00:24.309 --> 00:00:26.769 to get to. I know it's been a minute. I have 00:00:26.769 --> 00:00:29.230 missed a week, missed the game preview, which 00:00:29.230 --> 00:00:32.189 I told you was going to happen, got away for 00:00:32.189 --> 00:00:34.869 a little bit with my wife, took some time away, 00:00:34.990 --> 00:00:37.780 and as a result... By the time I got back into 00:00:37.780 --> 00:00:40.340 town, there was just not enough time to get really 00:00:40.340 --> 00:00:42.920 an episode out. But, you know, in looking back 00:00:42.920 --> 00:00:45.719 at the last two games of the Buffalo Bills, which 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:47.979 is where I'm going to start, I'm kind of glad 00:00:47.979 --> 00:00:51.240 that I took that break because had I done a game 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.560 preview of the Texans, I would have told you 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:55.659 that I really wasn't going to be too concerned. 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.479 Well, I'm kind of glad I didn't do that because, 00:00:58.539 --> 00:01:02.060 as it turns out, I had every reason to be concerned 00:01:02.060 --> 00:01:05.230 because the offense got... Their ass is handed 00:01:05.230 --> 00:01:09.549 to them for 60 minutes down in Texas. So yeah, 00:01:09.650 --> 00:01:12.969 Mafia, you are on the clock. How are you feeling? 00:01:13.049 --> 00:01:15.510 Has everyone talked themselves off the ledge 00:01:15.510 --> 00:01:18.489 since the Thursday night loss at the hands of 00:01:18.489 --> 00:01:21.489 the Texans and the backup quarterback? That is 00:01:21.489 --> 00:01:24.219 Davis Mills. I don't know. I don't know. It's 00:01:24.219 --> 00:01:26.739 so frustrating because we're coming off the game 00:01:26.739 --> 00:01:30.079 against Tampa, Tampa Bay Bucs, at home in Orchard 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:31.879 Park. My wife and I were at that game, and it 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.319 was a great game. It was a lot of fun. There 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:37.319 was a lot of offensive firepower. And coming 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:39.319 out of that game, number one, we felt pretty 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:42.120 confident. Number two, it was nice to see the 00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:45.140 offense kind of explode. And, you know, other 00:01:45.140 --> 00:01:47.760 players step up. Tyrell Shavers had a big game, 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.799 and everyone's singing his praises. And it was 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.480 like, oh, the offense is back on track. Yada, 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.599 yada. defense they didn't really show up they 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:58.159 let up a lot of points to Baker but we kind of 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:00.620 knew that was going to happen because Baker just 00:02:00.620 --> 00:02:03.500 is a gunslinger and has a don't quit never say 00:02:03.500 --> 00:02:05.879 die attitude and they just they brought it so 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:08.860 it was a really fun game to be at not a lot of 00:02:08.860 --> 00:02:11.599 drama going on in the stands so like I said we 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:13.439 left everyone's feeling great everyone's kind 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:16.580 of riding high and short week head down to Texas 00:02:16.580 --> 00:02:21.120 and we get just smashed the offense doesn't even 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.039 get off the plane and It's like Miami all over 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:26.960 again, except kind of worse because this time 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.419 we thought our offensive line, which was supposed 00:02:29.419 --> 00:02:33.000 to be a strength of this team, they just got 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.020 manhandled, just absolutely manhandled. So the 00:02:36.020 --> 00:02:38.180 life of a Bills fan lately, it's like getting 00:02:38.180 --> 00:02:41.159 on a roller coaster. And it's just so frustrating 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.620 because there's no consistency. I don't know. 00:02:44.659 --> 00:02:47.909 So I'm thinking about... you know, what I want 00:02:47.909 --> 00:02:49.430 to talk about with this team and I'm writing 00:02:49.430 --> 00:02:51.930 notes and I don't know, I kind of got a lot of 00:02:51.930 --> 00:02:54.370 stuff, but I just wrote down rollercoaster. Like 00:02:54.370 --> 00:02:57.330 we get smashed by the dolphins, the whole trade 00:02:57.330 --> 00:03:00.699 deadline fiasco. And then. No one thinks we're 00:03:00.699 --> 00:03:03.620 going to do anything going into the Tampa Bay 00:03:03.620 --> 00:03:06.020 Bucs game. And I joked that, you know, I did 00:03:06.020 --> 00:03:09.580 a real quick game preview podcast the last five 00:03:09.580 --> 00:03:12.879 minutes of the regular three tees. And I joked 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.340 that we were going to lose 415 to six. And like, 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:18.840 obviously, that didn't happen. We go on, we beat 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.199 the Bucs. But then to have this kind of letdown 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:24.599 on Thursday night. Now, I get it, short week. 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.939 But it's just like we had this idea that the 00:03:27.939 --> 00:03:30.639 offense was fixed. And Gabe Davis is here to 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.199 save the day. Tyrell Shavers is emerging as another 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.340 option. Josh Palmer is back. And, you know, we 00:03:36.340 --> 00:03:39.280 thought, oh, here, the benching of Keon Coleman. 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:41.759 This is going to solve all our problems. And 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.840 so we go into the short week. We knew the Texans 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:46.879 had a tough defense, but our emotions were riding 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:51.370 high. And then. smash and it's an offensive disaster 00:03:51.370 --> 00:03:56.030 yet again just a disaster you take out the kick 00:03:56.030 --> 00:03:58.710 return which shout out to ray davis on his birthday 00:03:58.710 --> 00:04:01.490 takes one to the to the house for the tutty like 00:04:01.490 --> 00:04:03.710 which is awesome but you take that out and the 00:04:03.710 --> 00:04:06.030 offense does nothing they have one james cook 00:04:06.030 --> 00:04:09.229 tutty and a couple field goals and like what 00:04:09.229 --> 00:04:13.469 is this what is this so it's just another offensive 00:04:13.469 --> 00:04:17.730 disaster yet again It's hard to even talk about 00:04:17.730 --> 00:04:20.050 the defense because let's look at the Houston 00:04:20.050 --> 00:04:22.790 game. The first half, the defense was putrid, 00:04:22.829 --> 00:04:25.449 just putrid. This is what we've seen time and 00:04:25.449 --> 00:04:28.029 time again. We saw it with Atlanta. The first 00:04:28.029 --> 00:04:30.790 half, they get absolutely gashed. We got players 00:04:30.790 --> 00:04:34.110 dropping left and right. We got Joey Bosa, like 00:04:34.110 --> 00:04:36.209 I've called him before, the one -armed bandit. 00:04:36.209 --> 00:04:39.310 He can't seem to do anything, but these guys 00:04:39.310 --> 00:04:43.449 are out there just balling, and they are getting... 00:04:43.970 --> 00:04:46.930 trucked up and down the first half. And then 00:04:46.930 --> 00:04:49.569 they come out, they make some adjustments. They 00:04:49.569 --> 00:04:53.230 are held together with like. duct tape and they 00:04:53.230 --> 00:04:55.709 come out in the second half and they played their 00:04:55.709 --> 00:04:58.230 asses off and they held the Texans to three points 00:04:58.230 --> 00:05:01.970 in the second half so while yes there are problems 00:05:01.970 --> 00:05:04.089 on the defensive side of the ball again we talked 00:05:04.089 --> 00:05:06.550 about this you're you're holding your opponent 00:05:06.550 --> 00:05:10.470 to under 25 points and you're expecting the offense 00:05:10.470 --> 00:05:13.029 to show up and do their part and the offense 00:05:13.029 --> 00:05:16.990 absolutely did nothing absolutely nothing I'm 00:05:16.990 --> 00:05:19.920 watching this game Thursday night now Oh my God, 00:05:19.939 --> 00:05:22.980 the commentary was terrible. Al Michaels, Kirk 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:25.740 Herbstreet, he doesn't even act like he knows 00:05:25.740 --> 00:05:27.720 who any of these players are. He doesn't know 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:30.939 anyone's names. It's just crazy. But anyway, 00:05:31.139 --> 00:05:35.740 it's like becoming a joke when the game announcers... 00:05:36.329 --> 00:05:39.069 are literally saying to the world, to the nation, 00:05:39.269 --> 00:05:40.930 whoever's watching the game, that the Bills have 00:05:40.930 --> 00:05:42.490 no plays, that they're just running the same 00:05:42.490 --> 00:05:44.569 plays over and over again. And now this is probably 00:05:44.569 --> 00:05:48.269 the third or fourth week I've heard similar commentary. 00:05:48.430 --> 00:05:50.410 I know Tony Romo was talking about it, and now 00:05:50.410 --> 00:05:53.930 you have this for this game. So I talked about 00:05:53.930 --> 00:05:56.629 it a week ago, about how the offense has five 00:05:56.629 --> 00:06:00.170 plays. And now with the benching of Keon, you 00:06:00.170 --> 00:06:04.410 take that 50 -50 ball down the sideline to Keon 00:06:04.410 --> 00:06:05.949 Coleman. You take that out of the room. repertoire 00:06:05.949 --> 00:06:08.990 and now we're down to four plays holy cow we 00:06:08.990 --> 00:06:13.170 are in some offensive woes if if i don't know 00:06:13.170 --> 00:06:15.089 i don't even know the right word but everyone 00:06:15.089 --> 00:06:17.529 got got crazy about tyrell shavers after the 00:06:17.529 --> 00:06:20.589 bucks game and where was he for the texans he 00:06:20.589 --> 00:06:23.069 i didn't even know he played didn't even know 00:06:23.069 --> 00:06:25.050 he played did he get a target because he sure 00:06:25.050 --> 00:06:27.970 didn't catch anything and so we go back to those 00:06:27.970 --> 00:06:30.470 four plays now and the number one play we have 00:06:31.020 --> 00:06:33.860 because they abandoned the run game, which while 00:06:33.860 --> 00:06:36.339 it wasn't stellar, it just appeared like they 00:06:36.339 --> 00:06:38.439 just had no interest in even trying to establish 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.100 some sort of run game, which made no sense because 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:43.839 the one thing we could have attacked on the Texans 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.000 was running the ball up the middle, which, hey, 00:06:46.100 --> 00:06:49.040 if you go back to my four or five plays that 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:51.060 Joe Brady loves to call, it's a cook run right 00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:54.519 up the middle. They took that out. They abandoned 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.680 that. So the only plays we had left were throw 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.379 it to Shakir and pray. And for the longest part 00:07:00.379 --> 00:07:02.819 of that game, he almost had, what, negative yards 00:07:02.819 --> 00:07:06.360 until he broke a big one? And I'm just like, 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.740 what is going on with this play calling? What 00:07:09.740 --> 00:07:11.720 is going on with the play calling? And then this 00:07:11.720 --> 00:07:14.139 Josh Allen running for his life, which is play 00:07:14.139 --> 00:07:16.819 four or five, however you want to look, because 00:07:16.819 --> 00:07:19.459 we're eliminating the 50 -50 ball. that Josh 00:07:19.459 --> 00:07:21.560 Allen runs for his life. And now he's taking 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:24.579 these ridiculous sacks where he's given up 10, 00:07:24.699 --> 00:07:28.399 12, 18 yards on a sack, just running like he's 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.500 never played the game before. So I don't know 00:07:30.500 --> 00:07:33.160 what I'm watching. I'm just, it's so frustrating. 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:35.879 And this is why I wrote down the word rollercoaster 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:37.920 because we're flying high after the Bucks game. 00:07:38.019 --> 00:07:39.920 And then we come in here on a short week, looking 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.750 to have a nice. Kind of a mini buy, mini reset, 00:07:43.810 --> 00:07:46.649 and a nice Thanksgiving break, and then we have 00:07:46.649 --> 00:07:48.889 Thanksgiving, and then we go to Pittsburgh, which 00:07:48.889 --> 00:07:51.629 everyone looks forward to kind of beating the 00:07:51.629 --> 00:07:54.529 Steelers. Well, this game was just dreadful. 00:07:54.589 --> 00:07:57.029 It was just dreadful. The offensive line, what 00:07:57.029 --> 00:07:59.629 the heck am I watching with this offensive line? 00:07:59.769 --> 00:08:02.769 They were terrible. Now, Spencer Brown, to his 00:08:02.769 --> 00:08:05.769 credit, he played his ass off, and he's being 00:08:05.769 --> 00:08:08.350 held together with, like, I don't know what. 00:08:08.649 --> 00:08:11.629 The coaching staff saw that they thought keeping 00:08:11.629 --> 00:08:15.370 him out there, despite working so hard to maintain 00:08:15.370 --> 00:08:19.230 some semblance of solid play on the right side, 00:08:19.350 --> 00:08:22.509 but he's getting torched because he can't use 00:08:22.509 --> 00:08:25.269 half his body. You're telling me that they can't 00:08:25.269 --> 00:08:28.790 put in the backup tackle for Spencer Brown? They 00:08:28.790 --> 00:08:31.589 waited so long into this game to take Spencer 00:08:31.589 --> 00:08:34.690 Brown off the field. He was turning into a turnstile. 00:08:34.850 --> 00:08:38.039 I'm watching plays where... Literally two or 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.840 three offensive linemen on our team are literally 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.559 falling on the ground immediately upon impact 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:45.399 from the defensive player. They're just getting 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.559 pancaked. Like these guys are just. getting trucked. 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:51.080 And it was the worst offensive line showing I 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:53.539 think I've seen in quite some time. Definitely 00:08:53.539 --> 00:08:57.100 by these five. Holy cow. Deion, Deion Dawkins, 00:08:57.179 --> 00:08:58.980 you want to talk about the false start at the 00:08:58.980 --> 00:09:00.860 end of the game? Well, there were plays before 00:09:00.860 --> 00:09:02.980 where it looked like he was quitting in the middle 00:09:02.980 --> 00:09:07.919 of the play. And I find it very ironic that he 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.600 probably had one of his worst games I've ever 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:13.000 seen a week after he basically called out Keon 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:15.980 and was talking about being accountable and being, 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.000 you know, He needed to really correct his attitude 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.940 and it's time for him to step up. And then Keon, 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.039 after getting the key to the city of Buffalo, 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.940 he calls out, I'm sorry, Dion, after getting 00:09:26.940 --> 00:09:29.600 the key, calling out Keon, and then he goes and 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:32.460 gives this dog crap performance. So it was just 00:09:32.460 --> 00:09:34.899 like, I don't know. I feel like, I don't know. 00:09:34.980 --> 00:09:37.159 I don't know. I feel like I'm in crazy town half 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:40.070 the time with this team because. There's no consistency. 00:09:40.129 --> 00:09:42.690 You don't know what to expect one week to another. 00:09:42.970 --> 00:09:46.929 And my God, the play calling is so, so bad. If 00:09:46.929 --> 00:09:49.490 the announcers of the game are calling it out 00:09:49.490 --> 00:09:52.669 that they only have a handful of plays, like 00:09:52.669 --> 00:09:55.129 what are we doing? And then the one, kind of 00:09:55.129 --> 00:09:57.690 the turning point, James Cook rips off this nice 00:09:57.690 --> 00:10:02.179 run. We had a... A good chance to actually get 00:10:02.179 --> 00:10:04.740 back in the game, and it's four straight runs 00:10:04.740 --> 00:10:06.960 to James Cook when he's literally trying to come 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.919 off the field telling the staff, hey, I am absolutely 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:12.299 gassed. You need to put Davis in here. You need 00:10:12.299 --> 00:10:13.899 to put Ty Johnson. And they're like, no, no, 00:10:13.940 --> 00:10:15.899 no, no, no. Go back out there. And they just 00:10:15.899 --> 00:10:18.340 keep handing the ball to Cook. And the fourth 00:10:18.340 --> 00:10:21.000 down play, he's literally blown up in the backfield 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.740 because our offensive line has just putrid this 00:10:23.740 --> 00:10:26.500 game. So it's just like problem after problem. 00:10:27.659 --> 00:10:30.019 They couldn't get the play call in quick enough. 00:10:30.100 --> 00:10:33.159 You see Josh Allen for the first time in quite 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:34.700 some time. I can't remember the last time that 00:10:34.700 --> 00:10:37.580 he's getting physically pissed off on the sidelines. 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.320 He's smashing his helmet. Everyone knows this 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.320 clip, but he's like, what are we doing? He says 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.620 it to Mitch Trubisky. What are we doing? And 00:10:44.620 --> 00:10:46.840 so if you're starting quarterback who is literally 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.929 the face of the franchise. is calling out the 00:10:49.929 --> 00:10:52.929 coaching staff, specifically Joe Brady and his 00:10:52.929 --> 00:10:55.509 play calling, you know we got problems. But I'm 00:10:55.509 --> 00:10:58.250 not excusing Josh Allen either because he played 00:10:58.250 --> 00:11:00.889 like dog crap. You want to talk about the turnovers. 00:11:00.929 --> 00:11:05.009 The one I'll kind of put to the side, but he's 00:11:05.009 --> 00:11:07.769 just making bad decisions. And this sack nonsense, 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:11.730 he was under fire. And yes, he was under fire 00:11:11.730 --> 00:11:13.889 the entire game. It was some ridiculous number, 00:11:14.049 --> 00:11:19.210 like 28 pressures, 28. He took eight sacks in 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:22.789 this game, which accounted for negative 70 yards. 00:11:23.090 --> 00:11:26.879 That's almost an entire drive worth of... plays 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:29.740 eight for minus 70 are you kidding me the one 00:11:29.740 --> 00:11:31.759 time we had like a third and six or a third and 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.899 four and he takes like an 18 yard sack and I'm 00:11:34.899 --> 00:11:37.600 just like that is unacceptable that's a first 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.799 or second year Josh Allen mistake you can't be 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:42.779 doing that what is this week eight or year eight 00:11:42.779 --> 00:11:46.860 year nine I mean what the heck are we doing that 00:11:46.860 --> 00:11:50.620 that is acceptable just throw the ball away And 00:11:50.620 --> 00:11:52.840 this idea that, I don't know what Joe's doing, 00:11:52.980 --> 00:11:55.500 what Joe Brady's doing. He's not making any sort 00:11:55.500 --> 00:11:59.000 of changes during the game. He's not adapting 00:11:59.000 --> 00:12:02.000 at all. Like your quarterback is taking shot 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:04.580 after shot. He's running for his life. He's putting 00:12:04.580 --> 00:12:07.399 the ball in harm's way. He's making bad decisions 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.559 because he is literally, he has no time to throw 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:13.879 and you won't. change up your protection schemes 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:17.100 you won't make uh adjustments to your play calling 00:12:17.100 --> 00:12:19.559 you won't go max protection you won't bring extra 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.460 people in the backfield why ever in this game 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:25.519 should josh have been lined up at a shotgun with 00:12:25.519 --> 00:12:29.559 no no help and we're running five wide with i 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.190 just It's just mind boggling to me how Joe Brady 00:12:33.190 --> 00:12:35.730 still has a job on this team. It's just mind 00:12:35.730 --> 00:12:39.850 boggling. I don't understand because we saw what 00:12:39.850 --> 00:12:42.309 happened early in the game. Josh took that nasty 00:12:42.309 --> 00:12:44.549 hit from behind. It looked to me like he completely 00:12:44.549 --> 00:12:46.629 got the wind knocked out of him and he flips 00:12:46.629 --> 00:12:48.529 over and he's kind of riding in pain and he's 00:12:48.529 --> 00:12:51.269 kicking his legs. And I'm like, oh boy, this 00:12:51.269 --> 00:12:54.889 is not good. But he bounced up and recovered 00:12:54.889 --> 00:12:57.789 from that one. But week to week, I have no clue. 00:12:58.269 --> 00:13:00.950 what this offense is no clue at all at the start 00:13:00.950 --> 00:13:03.350 of the year it was like okay we're gonna go ground 00:13:03.350 --> 00:13:05.730 and pound and we're just feeding james cook and 00:13:05.730 --> 00:13:10.549 he's ripping off 120 150 yards a game two tutties 00:13:10.549 --> 00:13:14.730 and it's you know we're four and oh but now what 00:13:14.730 --> 00:13:18.350 is the identity of this team at all like what 00:13:18.669 --> 00:13:21.429 What do we want to be known for? Outside of our 00:13:21.429 --> 00:13:23.450 injuries and no one can stay on the field and 00:13:23.450 --> 00:13:26.690 what is the direction of this team? What is the 00:13:26.690 --> 00:13:28.970 identity of this team? There's nothing we hang 00:13:28.970 --> 00:13:31.690 our hat on and go, yeah, now we're suddenly really, 00:13:31.789 --> 00:13:33.970 really good at this. And it's just, it's so frustrating 00:13:33.970 --> 00:13:35.970 because I keep coming back to this Joe Brady 00:13:35.970 --> 00:13:38.450 thing. I just think they missed an opportunity. 00:13:38.950 --> 00:13:42.029 I don't know. I don't know. The writing, it seems 00:13:42.029 --> 00:13:43.889 like the writing's been on the wall. And it's 00:13:43.889 --> 00:13:48.230 just so, so frustrating. I think he needs to 00:13:48.230 --> 00:13:51.389 go. I don't think if he makes it through the 00:13:51.389 --> 00:13:53.830 rest of the season, I don't think he's coming 00:13:53.830 --> 00:13:56.649 back. And that's fine at this point. And we used 00:13:56.649 --> 00:13:58.690 to worry about him getting a head coaching job. 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:01.389 What team in their right mind is going to hire 00:14:01.389 --> 00:14:04.009 him to be their head coach? Seeing the scripts 00:14:04.009 --> 00:14:07.190 that he is putting out on the field the last, 00:14:07.230 --> 00:14:10.700 what, five games of the year? Or just take the 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:12.639 whole year, the whole year in account. It's like 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:15.360 he can't ever find anything in moderation. He's 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.559 got to like spam the same play over and over 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:21.200 again. Or it's like 80 % James Cook or it's 80 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:24.059 % throws. There can't never be any, you know, 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.379 complimentary football, which I'm so freaking 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:28.259 sick and tired of hearing that phrase. But it's 00:14:28.259 --> 00:14:30.059 like, hey, postgame press conference. Oh, we 00:14:30.059 --> 00:14:31.980 didn't play complimentary football. Yeah, no 00:14:31.980 --> 00:14:35.220 crap. You got the crap kicked out of you. I just, 00:14:35.299 --> 00:14:38.190 I don't know. And now. It's really starting to 00:14:38.190 --> 00:14:40.570 look bad. We always talk about, oh, Brandon Bede's 00:14:40.570 --> 00:14:42.950 great because he signs his own players. I'm looking 00:14:42.950 --> 00:14:45.129 at some of these guys that he's re -signed for 00:14:45.129 --> 00:14:47.769 long -term deals. So you have Christian Benford, 00:14:47.850 --> 00:14:50.649 Gregory Rousseau, Terrell Bernard. These guys 00:14:50.649 --> 00:14:53.850 are locked up long -term. And have any of these 00:14:53.850 --> 00:14:58.480 guys played up to their extensions? Russo, when 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:00.940 is the last time you saw Russo make a significant 00:15:00.940 --> 00:15:03.799 play, a significant impact on the defensive side 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:06.240 of the ball? I don't know. And now Terrell Bernard's 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.080 hurt. Who knows if he's going to be able to play. 00:15:09.419 --> 00:15:11.080 Christian Benford looks like a shell of himself. 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.480 I mean, what are we doing? But we got these three 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:16.440 guys locked up for quite some time on the defensive 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.539 side of the ball. Josh Palmer, we signed him 00:15:18.539 --> 00:15:22.080 for a three -year deal. He can't. Seemed to catch 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.500 anything. I'm like, what? We talked about it. 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.919 We talked about the trade line, the trade deadline 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.039 disaster. And I told you when Brandon Bean sat 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.159 on his hands and did nothing and didn't pull 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:35.340 the trigger for Jalen Waddell, didn't pull the 00:15:35.340 --> 00:15:38.419 trigger for Chris Olave or Brian Thomas Jr., 00:15:38.419 --> 00:15:41.039 I came out and I told you after that fiasco, 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.080 I said, there is zero margin for error now on 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.240 this team. There is no place to make mistakes. 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.480 And what do we find ourselves in right now? What 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:54.080 do we find ourselves? You have to play perfectly 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:57.879 to win the game. This is the team we have. What 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.360 confidence do you have as a member of the mafia 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.820 going forward to say this team can, they're clearly 00:16:03.820 --> 00:16:07.000 going on the road in the playoffs. Clearly. There's 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:09.820 no AFC East crown this year. Sorry to tell you. 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.860 So that's over and done with. I wanted to say 00:16:12.860 --> 00:16:14.860 what, four weeks ago, hey, pump the brakes on 00:16:14.860 --> 00:16:18.620 the Patriot crowning, but. hey, congrats, New 00:16:18.620 --> 00:16:21.259 England's going to run away with this. Now maybe 00:16:21.259 --> 00:16:23.460 they can rattle off a couple more losses and 00:16:23.460 --> 00:16:25.759 they come back down to earth and the game in 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.259 New England actually means something, but it's 00:16:28.259 --> 00:16:30.580 possible that we're going to be out of this for 00:16:30.580 --> 00:16:33.679 the East in a couple weeks if we blow another 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.740 game. No AFC East. crown which means no home 00:16:37.740 --> 00:16:40.559 playoff games and I'm looking at this team and 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.620 saying does this team actually have a chance 00:16:42.620 --> 00:16:45.740 to go on the road and win three straight road 00:16:45.740 --> 00:16:48.820 playoff games holy cow they can't win in Miami 00:16:48.820 --> 00:16:51.899 they can't win in Houston how are they going 00:16:51.899 --> 00:16:55.139 to win in some of these playoff team stadiums 00:16:55.139 --> 00:16:58.940 I just I don't know and it it's so frustrating 00:16:58.940 --> 00:17:03.240 so frustrating Oh, and now we have kind of a 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:05.400 mini bye. So we have extra time to kind of sit 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:08.220 in this one, sit and stew because I would much 00:17:08.220 --> 00:17:11.400 rather kind of, hey, let's wash this away. Let's 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:13.099 get right back on the field. Let's have another 00:17:13.099 --> 00:17:16.880 game and kind of refocus. But no, we get to sit 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.400 in it. Not only do we get to watch this Sunday's 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:21.799 games, which there's kind of a lot on the line 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:23.920 here, but then you have the Thanksgiving game 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:26.740 and the Black Friday game. And there's a lot 00:17:26.740 --> 00:17:30.089 of football to be played before the Bills. retake 00:17:30.089 --> 00:17:31.890 the field and i'm sitting here going is there 00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:35.349 any hope for change on this team any hope at 00:17:35.349 --> 00:17:37.410 all we want to talk about joe brady is is there 00:17:37.410 --> 00:17:40.609 any hope that he gets canned right now no no 00:17:40.609 --> 00:17:43.190 it's never gonna happen mcdermott doubled down 00:17:43.190 --> 00:17:46.470 he said he has faith and trust in his coach and 00:17:46.470 --> 00:17:48.369 he thinks he's still a good coach and he just 00:17:48.369 --> 00:17:51.829 needs to be some adjustments and holy cow how 00:17:51.829 --> 00:17:53.849 many times are we gonna say this and then i'm 00:17:53.849 --> 00:17:55.630 here in joe brady's press conference and i'm 00:17:55.630 --> 00:17:58.430 just like He talks about, oh, yeah, yeah, the 00:17:58.430 --> 00:18:00.630 Texans, they were able to get pressure on us. 00:18:00.710 --> 00:18:03.269 He acts like he didn't know that they had one 00:18:03.269 --> 00:18:05.849 of the best defensive lines, specifically edge 00:18:05.849 --> 00:18:09.269 rushers, duos in the league. He acts like he 00:18:09.269 --> 00:18:11.349 didn't know that prior to the game. That's the 00:18:11.349 --> 00:18:13.970 way I interpreted what he says in his press conferences. 00:18:14.230 --> 00:18:16.109 And this is not the first time that he sounds 00:18:16.109 --> 00:18:18.930 like an absolute buffoon in these post -game 00:18:18.930 --> 00:18:21.710 press conferences. I talked about it before with 00:18:21.710 --> 00:18:24.599 you about how the one time he's like, oh. There's 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.200 nothing wrong with our offense. Our passing game's 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:28.240 fine. Our passing game's fine. Look, we did it 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.299 in Baltimore, which was like eight weeks ago 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:32.819 at that point. And I'm just like, what are you 00:18:32.819 --> 00:18:35.279 talking about? Is there any hope for change during 00:18:35.279 --> 00:18:38.599 the season? No, probably not. Off season? Now, 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:41.119 I don't, I really don't think, I don't think 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.039 Joe Brady's back. But you want to talk about 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:46.400 the head coach, the general manager, like McDermott, 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.740 Brandon Bean. I mean, if I were a betting man. 00:18:49.210 --> 00:18:51.769 I would put my money that McDermott's back. Hands 00:18:51.769 --> 00:18:53.730 down, there's no question McDermott is coming 00:18:53.730 --> 00:18:55.329 back. He's going to be the coach. So all these 00:18:55.329 --> 00:18:58.289 people clamoring for McDermott to be cut loose 00:18:58.289 --> 00:19:00.210 and shipped out of town. I don't see that happening. 00:19:00.490 --> 00:19:03.910 Now, maybe Bagula makes a change, but I mean, 00:19:03.930 --> 00:19:05.569 look at the way he handles his hockey team. If 00:19:05.569 --> 00:19:08.990 we're using that as any indication, I mean, he 00:19:08.990 --> 00:19:12.029 holds on to people way too long. I mean, how 00:19:12.029 --> 00:19:14.250 long has the general manager of the Sabres been 00:19:14.250 --> 00:19:18.180 allowed to wreck shop? and destroy that franchise. 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.420 So I don't know. But there's no chance McDermott's 00:19:21.420 --> 00:19:23.559 gone. But I think he needs to bring in a new 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:26.680 coordinator, and I think he needs some new ideas 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:29.519 coming out of the front office. I think we need 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.420 to be a little more progressive. I think we need 00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:35.319 to maybe change up some of our defensive. ideas 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.980 too so i i don't know what the heck do i know 00:19:37.980 --> 00:19:40.460 it's just very frustrating so we got six games 00:19:40.460 --> 00:19:43.799 left in the season six games obviously pittsburgh's 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:45.859 coming up we're in pittsburgh and they got a 00:19:45.859 --> 00:19:48.920 good defense so if we don't scheme up a way to 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:52.420 slow down what i mean we could be in for another 00:19:52.420 --> 00:19:54.980 long day of josh running around for his life 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:58.019 I just can't take these negative plays. And then 00:19:58.019 --> 00:20:01.279 we're back home to Cincinnati. Joe Burrow's coming 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.119 back. I know he was supposed to. He was looking 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:04.900 like he might play this weekend against New England. 00:20:05.539 --> 00:20:07.359 Well, that's not happening. He's not suiting 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:09.819 up. So probably he'll play in that Buffalo game. 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.039 I know they went ahead and changed the time to, 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:14.740 what, 4 .15 all the way back to 1 o 'clock, which 00:20:14.740 --> 00:20:21.519 really screwed me. But thanks for that. And then 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:24.469 they're in New England and in Cleveland. Now, 00:20:24.469 --> 00:20:26.069 Cleveland's kind of a train wreck right now, 00:20:26.109 --> 00:20:29.130 but Shador Sanders, I'm not saying that we're 00:20:29.130 --> 00:20:31.329 going to lose, but that Cleveland has a good 00:20:31.329 --> 00:20:33.710 defense. And then the Eagles, and then finally 00:20:33.710 --> 00:20:37.130 the Jets. Can anyone guarantee, guarantee three 00:20:37.130 --> 00:20:39.769 wins? Can we guarantee four wins? Are we going 00:20:39.769 --> 00:20:42.400 to hit, what, 11 and six? Is that the goal, to 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:44.740 get to 11 -6 in a wildcard game? I don't know. 00:20:44.779 --> 00:20:47.339 It's crazy to think about it. When the schedule 00:20:47.339 --> 00:20:50.000 originally came out, people were like, oh, 14 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:52.900 wins, 15 wins. First round by, number one seed, 00:20:53.059 --> 00:20:56.140 AFC. Here we go. This is the time. And now, look, 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:59.140 we're talking about us as a wildcard team with 00:20:59.140 --> 00:21:01.480 really no chance for the East Crown. It's very 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:04.359 frustrating. But there's one more thing I kind 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:06.519 of want to talk about, and I don't know. I kind 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:08.339 of was on the fence about this. Is there an attitude 00:21:08.339 --> 00:21:10.799 problem with the Bills team? And I don't mean 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.880 like guys just have like bad attitudes, but it's 00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.480 just like, is there a sense of entitlement that 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:18.880 has kind of crept in, kind of complacency over 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.140 the last five years of kind of expecting these 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:25.140 lower level teams to just come into town or us 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:28.079 to go there and kind of just these lower tier 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.960 teams to just lay down and die? Because here 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:33.799 come the Buffalo Bills, right? And they've been 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.930 outside of the Chiefs. They've been... One of 00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:39.210 the two, three best teams in the AFC East now 00:21:39.210 --> 00:21:43.150 for five years. So is this idea that they're 00:21:43.150 --> 00:21:45.049 just better than everyone and they can just simply 00:21:45.049 --> 00:21:48.589 show up and the results will take care of themselves 00:21:48.589 --> 00:21:50.450 in the field? Because that's what I'm kind of 00:21:50.450 --> 00:21:53.230 seeing. And then they get destroyed. And then 00:21:53.230 --> 00:21:55.750 it's like, no, now they got to go back to the 00:21:55.750 --> 00:21:57.750 drawing board and kind of dig down deep again. 00:21:58.899 --> 00:22:01.619 I'm not saying it is, but I just started thinking 00:22:01.619 --> 00:22:03.740 about this as I'm watching the Texans game and 00:22:03.740 --> 00:22:06.539 the Miami game and just hearing some of the postgame 00:22:06.539 --> 00:22:08.680 comments about how the other team wanted it more. 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.160 That should never be the case. If you are a Super 00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.940 Bowl contender, there should never be a game 00:22:14.940 --> 00:22:18.319 that you say afterwards that the other team wanted 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.960 it more. I'm sorry, that's inexcusable at this 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:22.740 time. So yeah, you want to look at the coaching 00:22:22.740 --> 00:22:25.920 staff and whatnot, but what is the overall mentality 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.750 of this team? We talk about they had hard knocks 00:22:28.750 --> 00:22:31.470 and all eyes on the Bills. And it's been this 00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:33.750 way since kind of the tide has shifted and we're 00:22:33.750 --> 00:22:36.589 doing more nationally televised games. And they're 00:22:36.589 --> 00:22:38.769 in the spotlight. There's all this national recognition. 00:22:39.190 --> 00:22:41.509 Josh wins the MVP. He's been a contender now 00:22:41.509 --> 00:22:44.430 for the last few years in AFC championship games 00:22:44.430 --> 00:22:48.210 and really high -profile losses in the playoffs. 00:22:48.630 --> 00:22:53.650 And then Super Bowl favorites. How many nationalists 00:22:53.650 --> 00:22:56.470 were the Bills not in the top one to two to three 00:22:56.470 --> 00:22:59.069 teams of Super Bowl contending teams this year? 00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:02.950 And so it just carries this attitude of, I don't 00:23:02.950 --> 00:23:04.990 know. I don't know what I'm watching. And I think 00:23:04.990 --> 00:23:07.549 that's part of the frustration. Do these guys 00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:10.930 really have a sense of self now that they think 00:23:10.930 --> 00:23:13.349 these lesser teams should just lay down and die? 00:23:13.470 --> 00:23:16.759 They can get up for the Chiefs. They played great 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:18.960 for the Chiefs. And then we saw last week against 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:21.599 the Bucs, like Josh was fired up. That team was 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:24.259 fired up. And that was a great, high -impact, 00:23:24.259 --> 00:23:27.880 guns blazing, awesome game to watch. But then 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:29.599 you get games like the Falcons game, and you 00:23:29.599 --> 00:23:32.220 get games like the Dolphins game, and just what 00:23:32.220 --> 00:23:33.920 we saw, the Texans game. Now, the Texans are 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.460 no slouch. They should have been prepared. But 00:23:36.460 --> 00:23:37.779 it's like, oh, Davis Mills is a quarterback? 00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:40.440 Well, we got this. This is in the bag. I just 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.200 feel like the lack of effort and this overall 00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:45.700 mentality, this attitude of, expecting this other 00:23:45.700 --> 00:23:48.660 team to just not show up. And it's led to these 00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:51.240 downright embarrassing performances. I don't 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:53.359 know. Maybe I'm crazy. You guys can tell me what 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:55.200 you think. I could be completely out in left 00:23:55.200 --> 00:23:57.380 field on this. But it's just something I'm starting 00:23:57.380 --> 00:24:00.420 to think about. With all the extracurriculars 00:24:00.420 --> 00:24:02.559 going on, you're seeing all these guys, specifically 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.099 Allen. He's in all these commercials. I mean, 00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:07.440 how many times could you go through a Sunday 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:09.519 and not see him in three, four, five commercials? 00:24:09.700 --> 00:24:10.960 And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.420 that. Look, there's a time and a place. And yeah, 00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:15.799 he's in the spotlight. He's one of the top players 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:18.140 in the league and he should be the focal point. 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:19.680 You know, he's the face of the franchise. But 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.579 then the whole offseason with the marriage and 00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:25.140 then the hard knocks. And it's just like sometimes 00:24:25.140 --> 00:24:29.359 this can lead and promote an attitude or a grander 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.680 sense of self. And maybe it's starting to creep 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.240 in and kind of take hold of this team. Like they 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.460 feel like they should just win because they've 00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:38.960 had success in the past. And I just don't, I 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.019 don't want to fall into that. Years past, it's 00:24:41.019 --> 00:24:42.900 been, we're the underdog. No one believes in 00:24:42.900 --> 00:24:45.599 us. I much prefer that story than being out as 00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:47.319 a front runner. When everyone expects you to 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:48.819 just crush cats and then you get embarrassed 00:24:48.819 --> 00:24:50.640 by the Dolphins and the Texans. And it's like, 00:24:50.700 --> 00:24:52.140 what the heck is wrong with you? It's just the 00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:54.880 lack of effort and the quit. I never want to 00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.099 see that on my football team. Never. I don't 00:24:57.099 --> 00:24:58.740 know. Just wanted to throw that out there. But 00:24:58.740 --> 00:25:01.799 all right. That's enough. I think we're done 00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:04.019 with the mafia. There's only so much you could 00:25:04.019 --> 00:25:06.240 say, but I've talked enough about that. Now I 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.380 want to turn my attention to the squared circle. 00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:11.319 Yeah, I am super excited. Wrestling marks. How 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.259 are we feeling? Survivor Series is coming up. 00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:16.759 It is on the clock, actually. We are two days 00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.259 after Thanksgiving. Survivor Series is hitting 00:25:19.259 --> 00:25:21.339 your screen. Survivor Series War Games. So I 00:25:21.339 --> 00:25:23.200 wanted to get in that DeLorean. I told you I 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.099 was going to do it. Survivor Series is one of 00:25:25.099 --> 00:25:27.420 the top four pay -per -views that WWE puts out 00:25:27.420 --> 00:25:29.660 each and every year. And I wanted to kind of 00:25:29.660 --> 00:25:31.839 do a deep dive and go all the way back to the 00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:33.779 beginning. So I popped in that DeLorean, fired 00:25:33.779 --> 00:25:37.240 it up, and headed all the way back to 1987 to 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.720 the debut of Survivor Series. Now, I was eight 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.980 years old, and I was trying to remember. I was 00:25:42.980 --> 00:25:44.640 trying to remember the very first Survivor Series 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.299 I actually remember watching. It definitely wasn't 00:25:47.299 --> 00:25:50.619 this one. But this is the second longest running 00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:53.740 pay -per -view behind WrestleMania. 1987, it 00:25:53.740 --> 00:25:57.420 was the debut of Survivor Series. This was coming 00:25:57.420 --> 00:26:00.200 off the heels of the hugely successful WrestleMania 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.819 III, Pontiac Silverdome. You see Andre the Giant, 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.880 Hulk Hogan, the Body Slam heard around the world. 00:26:05.019 --> 00:26:07.720 So a few months later, so this would be November. 00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:11.930 On Thanksgiving Day, you see the debut of Survivor 00:26:11.930 --> 00:26:14.289 Series, the pay -per -view. And looking back 00:26:14.289 --> 00:26:17.609 through, because now we're in a long, long time 00:26:17.609 --> 00:26:20.890 of Survivor Series, there's only twice in the 00:26:20.890 --> 00:26:22.869 history of Survivor Series where there haven't 00:26:22.869 --> 00:26:27.230 been any tag elimination matches, these traditional 00:26:27.230 --> 00:26:29.910 Survivor Series rules matches. Now, what they 00:26:29.910 --> 00:26:33.369 did in the first, I don't know, 20 -some years 00:26:33.369 --> 00:26:36.579 of this, they assembled teams. It was think of 00:26:36.579 --> 00:26:38.700 the Avengers and you, you know, you had your 00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:40.500 Avengers on one side and your bad guys on the 00:26:40.500 --> 00:26:44.440 other side. And so the matches were tag matches 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:46.380 where you had four or five members to each team 00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:48.319 and they would wrestle and there would be a pinfall 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.900 or a submission or a count out. And one thing 00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:52.839 I found looking back through is there was a lot 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:54.819 of count outs. It was crazy. People were getting 00:26:54.819 --> 00:26:57.720 eliminated on count outs, which is insane. If 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:00.519 you think about it, there were only two times 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:02.299 in the history survivor series where there were 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:05.529 zero. actual Survivor Series elimination matches. 00:27:05.670 --> 00:27:08.609 And the first happened in 1998. They took Survivor 00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:10.750 Series and they turned it into a 14 -man tournament 00:27:10.750 --> 00:27:14.369 for a recently vacated WWF championship. And 00:27:14.369 --> 00:27:16.809 this was kind of a cool concept. There was a 00:27:16.809 --> 00:27:18.630 whole lot of nonsense going on with Stone Cold 00:27:18.630 --> 00:27:20.630 Steve Austin versus Vince McMahon. And there 00:27:20.630 --> 00:27:23.130 was Kane and The Undertaker and the Brothers 00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:25.809 of Destruction. And they were kind of working 00:27:25.809 --> 00:27:27.569 with Vince and maybe not working with Vince. 00:27:27.650 --> 00:27:31.289 And it was a whole ordeal. And then Austin gives 00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:35.059 up the belt. issue between Kane and the Undertaker 00:27:35.059 --> 00:27:38.160 anyway the the title is vacated so for Survivor 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.680 Series they ran a 14 -man tournament and that 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.740 was the whole crux of the pay -per -view and 00:27:42.740 --> 00:27:45.759 it came down to Rock versus Mankind this is a 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:49.259 long time ago but so Rock versus Mankind your 00:27:49.259 --> 00:27:51.819 your main event for the the vacated WWF championship 00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:54.759 the Rocket at some point towards the end of the 00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.019 match he puts Mankind in the sharpshooter now 00:27:57.019 --> 00:27:59.400 if you remember remember the sharpshooter this 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:03.660 is the same move that HBK would put on Bret the 00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:07.420 Hitman Hart a year previous. 1997, Montreal, 00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.519 Canada, Survivor Series, the Montreal Screwjob, 00:28:10.579 --> 00:28:12.180 and we're going to get to that in a minute. So 00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:14.140 Rock puts the sharpshooter, which is a submission 00:28:14.140 --> 00:28:17.720 hold, on Mankind, and Mankind doesn't even tap, 00:28:17.819 --> 00:28:20.599 but you see Vince getting involved, and he calls 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:22.819 for the bell. He calls the refs to ring the bell 00:28:22.819 --> 00:28:25.720 without Mankind submitting, and it's a total 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.299 play on what happened the year before with the 00:28:28.299 --> 00:28:31.410 Montreal Screwjob. And so Rock becomes your new 00:28:31.410 --> 00:28:33.809 WWF champion. That was the first time there were 00:28:33.809 --> 00:28:37.069 no elimination matches. And then the second was 00:28:37.069 --> 00:28:40.509 in 2002, so four years later. And this was because 00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:43.170 they debuted a brand new match, never before 00:28:43.170 --> 00:28:45.549 seen, which would go on to be one of my favorite 00:28:45.549 --> 00:28:47.910 matches of all time, the Elimination Chamber. 00:28:48.130 --> 00:28:49.910 Back then, they would have these specialty matches 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:52.569 kind of baked into your pay -per -views. And 00:28:52.569 --> 00:28:55.089 so this was the debut of the elimination chamber. 00:28:55.150 --> 00:28:56.849 Now, if you know what the elimination chamber 00:28:56.849 --> 00:28:58.950 is, or if you never heard of it, elimination 00:28:58.950 --> 00:29:01.250 chamber is essentially, if you've ever seen a 00:29:01.250 --> 00:29:03.230 cage match, well, the elimination chamber is 00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:06.410 this dome -like cage structure that covers the 00:29:06.410 --> 00:29:09.109 entire ring. And on each corner of the ring, 00:29:09.250 --> 00:29:12.690 there is essentially an enclosed pod. So you 00:29:12.690 --> 00:29:16.200 have four pods. In this structure, this cell 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.920 structure that completely encompasses the ring 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.599 and there's a little space like grates, like 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.539 a add -on in addition to where the ring canvas 00:29:24.539 --> 00:29:27.640 extends out past where the ring ropes are. So 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:29.799 you have your ring canvas and then on the outside 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.700 of the ring, probably another two, three feet 00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:36.339 of just steel floor, same level, right? And so 00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:39.480 you have six men, four in the pods surrounding 00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:43.049 the ring and two start in the middle. And then 00:29:43.049 --> 00:29:45.809 every five minutes, there's kind of a roulette 00:29:45.809 --> 00:29:48.589 wheel, right? And another member from one of 00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:51.329 the locked and closed pods gets released into 00:29:51.329 --> 00:29:54.170 the match. And what happens is it's an elimination 00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:57.390 match, hence the name Elimination Chamber. And 00:29:57.390 --> 00:29:58.950 then every time someone's pinned or submitted, 00:29:59.210 --> 00:30:03.910 they are forced to exit this structure. And the 00:30:03.910 --> 00:30:06.410 winner of the match is the one who survives all 00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:09.049 the pinfalls. And so they debuted this match 00:30:09.049 --> 00:30:13.119 in 2002. And you had Triple H, Chris Jericho, 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.079 Kane, Booker T, Rob Van Dam, and Shawn Michaels 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.220 in the very first elimination match, 2002. Shawn 00:30:19.220 --> 00:30:22.519 Michaels ends up winning, and yeah, we're off 00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.359 and running. And then, eventually, the Elimination 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:25.920 Chamber becomes its own pay -per -view, which 00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.480 now traditionally is held before WrestleMania. 00:30:28.579 --> 00:30:30.980 And usually now, in the last, I don't know, five, 00:30:31.220 --> 00:30:33.599 six years, probably longer than that, historically, 00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:35.839 the winner of the Elimination Chamber match goes 00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.920 on to get a shot at one of the titles at WrestleMania. 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:41.539 Anyway, so those are the only two years, 1998 00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:45.579 and 2002, where there was zero traditional Survivor 00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:47.700 Series elimination matches. And then, of course, 00:30:47.740 --> 00:30:50.900 in 2022, we see kind of a change in philosophy, 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.140 this whole War Games thing, which is what we're 00:30:54.140 --> 00:30:57.359 coming up on next weekend. The War Games is different. 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.769 It's another structure. But they almost take 00:30:59.769 --> 00:31:01.710 two rings. They push them side by side. So they're 00:31:01.710 --> 00:31:03.950 literally forced. They're forced right next to 00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:06.109 each other. And then they encompass and enclose 00:31:06.109 --> 00:31:08.809 the entire two ring structure with a cage. So 00:31:08.809 --> 00:31:10.710 instead of a single ring cage match, now you 00:31:10.710 --> 00:31:12.930 have a double ring cage match. On the outside, 00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:16.549 you have these two shark tank cages structures, 00:31:16.750 --> 00:31:20.269 which hold the teams, whether it's four or five 00:31:20.269 --> 00:31:22.990 players or four or five wrestlers. Mostly it's 00:31:22.990 --> 00:31:25.410 five wrestlers. And what happens is one at a 00:31:25.410 --> 00:31:28.359 time. Two guys get released, and they start in 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:30.720 this double wrestling ring, and they start fighting. 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.500 And then, I don't know, every five minutes, a 00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:35.799 new member comes out. So every other time, there's 00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.559 an advantage for one team over the other. And 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.299 it's no holds barred. You can use weapons, tables. 00:31:41.460 --> 00:31:44.660 It's total chaos. And so the match actually takes 00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:47.440 forever to actually start because the whole start 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.339 of the match doesn't begin until everyone is 00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.140 let out of these shark cages and actually makes 00:31:53.140 --> 00:31:56.859 it into the war games structure. So these are 00:31:56.859 --> 00:32:00.259 really convoluted, chaotic, kind of crazy matches. 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.640 Like on average, they take probably an hour. 00:32:02.779 --> 00:32:04.960 This is kind of what they switched to. They got 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.220 away from the traditional Survivor Series matches 00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:09.660 structure of the pay -per -view. And I've said 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:12.039 it before, I kind of yearn for the old school 00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.920 Survivor Series matches. So anyway, debuted all 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.420 the way back in 1987 on actual Thanksgiving Day. 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.319 This was crazy back then because the first four 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:22.759 years that the pay -per -view was running, so 00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:26.680 1987 to 1990, Survivor Series took place on Thanksgiving. 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.960 I know I've seen one of these live. I can't remember 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.859 which one exactly. So the debut, 1987, there's 00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:35.000 only four matches on the card, only four matches, 00:32:35.059 --> 00:32:37.980 and they're all Survivor Series matches. So you 00:32:37.980 --> 00:32:40.519 had three five -on -five matches, three matches. 00:32:41.069 --> 00:32:43.210 Each match had one team of five versus another 00:32:43.210 --> 00:32:45.549 team of five. And then you had one match that 00:32:45.549 --> 00:32:48.069 was all tag team eliminations. So it was crazy. 00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:52.269 They had 10 tag teams. So you want to talk chaotic. 00:32:52.730 --> 00:32:54.930 And then each time one member of the tag team 00:32:54.930 --> 00:32:57.390 was pinned, that entire tag team got eliminated. 00:32:57.910 --> 00:33:01.450 So the main event in 1987, the debut of Survivor 00:33:01.450 --> 00:33:03.990 Series, you had Team Andre the Giant versus Team 00:33:03.990 --> 00:33:06.130 Hulk Hogan. And as I just said, this was coming 00:33:06.130 --> 00:33:08.269 off the heels of probably one of the most iconic 00:33:08.269 --> 00:33:10.900 WrestleMania moments of ever, ever. which was 00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:14.279 Hogan versus Andre. And as I said before, looking 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.359 back at some of these eliminations in this very 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.400 match, Hulk Hogan is actually eliminated by a 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.660 count out. So he never gets pinned. He never 00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:23.480 gets submitted, but there's shenanigans outside 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:26.559 the ring and they don't allow him to get back 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.700 in the ring. And so Hulk Hogan is actually counted 00:33:29.700 --> 00:33:31.420 out and he's eliminated from the match, which 00:33:31.420 --> 00:33:34.680 is crazy. Team Andre, led by Andre the Giant, 00:33:34.819 --> 00:33:37.619 he pins Bam Bam Bigelow and becomes the sole 00:33:37.619 --> 00:33:40.299 survivor and the winner of the main event in 00:33:40.299 --> 00:33:43.140 the very first Survivor Series match. So I just 00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:46.180 thought that was pretty funny that Hulk Hogan 00:33:46.180 --> 00:33:49.480 was actually counted out of the very first Survivor 00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:51.240 Series match. Then you go to the next year, 1988, 00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:54.059 and this is where you see the Mega Powers. The 00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:56.799 Mega Powers is the story in wrestling for quite 00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.599 some time. And this is kind of the turning point. 00:33:59.950 --> 00:34:03.390 So you have Randy Macho Man Savage, Hulk Hogan. 00:34:03.430 --> 00:34:06.069 They combined to form one of the great tag teams 00:34:06.069 --> 00:34:09.010 of all time, the Megapowers. You had Team Megapowers 00:34:09.010 --> 00:34:11.269 versus the Twin Towers team. Now, if you remember 00:34:11.269 --> 00:34:14.010 the Twin Towers, this was Akeem, the African 00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:17.010 Dream, and the Big Boss Man. Of course, there's 00:34:17.010 --> 00:34:18.949 shenanigans, and you have Miss Elizabeth, who 00:34:18.949 --> 00:34:22.530 was kind of Randy Macho Man's valet, if you will. 00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:24.570 A lot of shenanigans outside. This is actually 00:34:24.570 --> 00:34:28.519 a pretty fun match. Hulk Hogan, Randy Macho Man, 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.920 they end up winning. They beat the Twin Towers 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.960 team. And then post -match, you see Hulk Hogan 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.260 kind of getting a little chummy, a little friendly 00:34:36.260 --> 00:34:39.780 with Miss Elizabeth. And so... This is kind of 00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:43.039 the start of the fire that fuels Randy and kind 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.659 of his heel turn to turn into like this evil, 00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:47.739 evil guy. But you're like looking back at the 00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:49.699 whole mega powers collide thing because eventually 00:34:49.699 --> 00:34:51.900 these two will meet at WrestleMania. This is 00:34:51.900 --> 00:34:53.440 kind of the start of it. This was the start of 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.219 the jealousy feud and the angle involving Miss 00:34:56.219 --> 00:34:58.780 Elizabeth. When this happens post -match, Macho 00:34:58.780 --> 00:35:01.440 gets upset and Hogan's kind of oblivious to everything 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.260 because he just doesn't care. And then your mega 00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:06.719 powers story is off and running. So pretty cool, 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:08.500 pretty cool. But I went back and I looked at 00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:10.960 some of the other kind of iconic or important 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.940 Survivor Series matches or just pay -per -views. 00:35:13.940 --> 00:35:17.619 1990, if you remember this, this is huge because 00:35:17.619 --> 00:35:20.019 this is the debut of The Undertaker. And he goes 00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:24.139 on to have an enormously successful career. And 00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:27.260 he debuts as the mysterious member of the Million 00:35:27.260 --> 00:35:29.420 Dollar Team. If you remember the Million Dollar 00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:32.260 Man, Ted DiBiase, he was putting his team together 00:35:32.260 --> 00:35:35.909 and he had a... mystery member well this turned 00:35:35.909 --> 00:35:39.110 out to be the undertaker and so undertaker debuting 00:35:39.110 --> 00:35:42.550 and in survivor series 1990 huge but there's 00:35:42.550 --> 00:35:45.889 another debut that everyone was extremely excited 00:35:45.889 --> 00:35:48.150 for and this occurred at the exact same pay -per 00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:51.010 -view if you remember weeks and weeks before 00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:53.389 survivor series took place again this one was 00:35:53.389 --> 00:35:56.010 going to be on thanksgiving there was a large 00:35:56.010 --> 00:36:00.030 egg at various shows that was kind of sitting 00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:02.900 on set huge egg look like i don't know freaking 00:36:02.900 --> 00:36:05.159 dinosaur egg or something like some ridiculously 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.719 sized egg and so the question was oh what's what's 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.500 this egg about and everyone was talking about 00:36:10.500 --> 00:36:13.280 it for weeks and then finally we get to survivor 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.280 series 1990 and this egg starts to hatch and 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.880 out of this egg comes this giant turkey creature 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.519 called the gobbledygooker right and so This is 00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.539 probably one of the worst, worst characters of 00:36:27.539 --> 00:36:30.420 all time because they wanted this guy to actually 00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:33.619 be able to wrestle. And it was a complete frickin 00:36:33.619 --> 00:36:35.880 disaster. I know at one point he comes down to 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:37.719 the ring. He tries to do a move and his mask 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.840 kind of gets turned sideways and he actually 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:43.320 falls down. And it's just it's just an absolute. 00:36:43.869 --> 00:36:47.510 Crap show, right? So this whole gobbledygooker 00:36:47.510 --> 00:36:49.949 gimmick lasts for approximately four weeks and 00:36:49.949 --> 00:36:52.010 then it's sent off into the sun and you never 00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:54.289 see it again. But what are some of the other 00:36:54.289 --> 00:36:57.309 highlights I found? 1994, you actually had a 00:36:57.309 --> 00:37:00.030 casket match. And what's significant about this, 00:37:00.050 --> 00:37:02.429 this was a casket match between The Undertaker, 00:37:02.530 --> 00:37:04.989 who was debuted four years prior, and Yokozuna, 00:37:05.170 --> 00:37:07.769 which was huge at the time. What was funny about 00:37:07.769 --> 00:37:12.030 this match is none other than iconic Chuck Norris 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.840 a special outside ring enforcer to this match. 00:37:18.059 --> 00:37:20.340 And so, of course, he gets involved in their 00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:22.139 shenanigans. And I was just like, Chuck Norris, 00:37:22.179 --> 00:37:25.780 that's pretty cool. So 1994 main event casket 00:37:25.780 --> 00:37:28.519 match. Look for Chuck Norris when you fire up 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.940 the old pay -per -view on this one. And then, 00:37:31.980 --> 00:37:35.480 of course, 1997. I briefly hinted at this before. 00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.980 You have Montreal, Canada. This is a screwjob 00:37:37.980 --> 00:37:42.349 that is iconic in the history of... Vince McMahon, 00:37:42.610 --> 00:37:46.030 WWF. You had Bret the Hitman Hart versus Shawn 00:37:46.030 --> 00:37:48.469 Michaels. Everyone knew Bret the Hitman was going 00:37:48.469 --> 00:37:50.449 to leave. This was the story. He was champion. 00:37:50.670 --> 00:37:52.650 This was a long running feud between him and 00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:56.230 HBK, Shawn Michaels. And so all Bret asked was 00:37:56.230 --> 00:38:00.289 that he could win this match. And then he promised 00:38:00.289 --> 00:38:02.489 that the next night on Raw, he would give up 00:38:02.489 --> 00:38:05.110 the belt because he wanted to win in his hometown, 00:38:05.309 --> 00:38:09.019 Montreal. And the story goes. that Vince agreed 00:38:09.019 --> 00:38:12.619 to it he was going to allow Bret to win this 00:38:12.619 --> 00:38:15.059 match versus Shawn Michaels and then he would 00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:17.659 somehow lose the belt the next night well that 00:38:17.659 --> 00:38:20.380 didn't actually turn out to be the case because 00:38:20.380 --> 00:38:22.840 at some point in this match there is supposed 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.900 to be a reversal HBK puts Bret the Hitman in 00:38:25.900 --> 00:38:27.579 the sharpshooter which is what we talked about 00:38:27.579 --> 00:38:31.099 The Rock putting on Mankind HBK puts this move 00:38:31.099 --> 00:38:33.880 on Bret the Hitman Hart and according to the 00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:36.320 story what was supposed to happen in the match 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:40.360 was Brett was supposed to reverse this move and 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.440 get HBK in the sharpshooter, and then the bell 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.199 would happen and Brett would retain the belt. 00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.280 But what happened was HBK locks in this leg lock, 00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:53.360 this sharpshooter, puts Brett Michaels in. Brett 00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:56.880 Michaels. Yeah, Poison was not involved. He puts 00:38:56.880 --> 00:38:59.260 Brett the Hitman Harp in the sharpshooter, and 00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:01.840 then you see Vince run down to where the ring 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:04.300 bell is and call for the bell. Brett doesn't 00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:07.920 tap. There's nothing going on. And you see Vince 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.159 call for the bell. And next thing you know, HBK 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.800 is the new champion. And so this caused absolute 00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.760 chaos. If you watch some of the footage, there's 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.000 documentaries on this specific match. You see 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.360 Bret the Hitman actually spit onto Vince McMahon, 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:26.900 who is at ringside. If you follow what happens 00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:30.639 backstage. Vince is waiting for Brett in his 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.380 office or some sort of variation on this. Brett 00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:35.760 goes in there and literally punches Vince square 00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.800 in the face and knocks him out cold. Yeah, this 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.820 is the Montreal Screwjob brought to you by Survivor 00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:44.159 Series 1997. So just some crazy stuff looking 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.619 back through the history of Survivor Series. 00:39:47.820 --> 00:39:52.119 Another one I came up with, 2012. 2012, you had 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.699 a triple threat match for the WWE Championship. 00:39:54.820 --> 00:39:59.210 Now, this was awesome. CM Punk. John Cena. And 00:39:59.210 --> 00:40:01.409 who's the third participant in this match? But 00:40:01.409 --> 00:40:04.530 none other than, feed me more, Ryback. This is 00:40:04.530 --> 00:40:07.030 for the WWE Championship. CM Punk was your reigning 00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:10.070 champion. Why is this iconic? Because this is 00:40:10.070 --> 00:40:13.610 the debut of one of the most awesome, my favorite 00:40:13.610 --> 00:40:15.889 stable of all time. This is where you see the 00:40:15.889 --> 00:40:20.349 debut of The Shield. Dean Ambrose, Roman Reigns, 00:40:20.429 --> 00:40:23.090 Seth Rollins. They come out of the crowd. They 00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:26.329 triple bomb. Triple powerbomb right back through 00:40:26.329 --> 00:40:29.590 the announce table. Punk retains. And we are 00:40:29.590 --> 00:40:31.809 off and running with one of the most dominating, 00:40:32.030 --> 00:40:34.809 iconic factions in the history of wrestling. 00:40:34.969 --> 00:40:37.530 And these three will go on to do awesome, awesome 00:40:37.530 --> 00:40:40.130 stuff as singles superstars. But you want to 00:40:40.130 --> 00:40:43.289 talk about changing the course of history with 00:40:43.289 --> 00:40:45.710 the debut of The Shield. It started in 2012. 00:40:46.449 --> 00:40:51.869 Now, their outfits weren't the badass kind of 00:40:51.869 --> 00:40:55.690 cargo pants, vests. that you were expecting to 00:40:55.690 --> 00:40:58.130 see. They came out looking like, I don't know, 00:40:58.170 --> 00:41:00.650 off -duty lawyers or something because they were 00:41:00.650 --> 00:41:03.730 all rocking like black turtlenecks. It looked 00:41:03.730 --> 00:41:06.969 pretty, pretty bad. But they hadn't gotten the 00:41:06.969 --> 00:41:09.429 outfits down yet, but the impact was just as 00:41:09.429 --> 00:41:12.730 meaningful. And then we skipped to... The last 00:41:12.730 --> 00:41:16.650 one I want to highlight, 2016, we have the main 00:41:16.650 --> 00:41:19.289 event, Goldberg versus Brock Lesnar. Now, if 00:41:19.289 --> 00:41:22.010 you can go back and press play on the old 3T 00:41:22.010 --> 00:41:24.769 podcast where I think it's called Why Can't We 00:41:24.769 --> 00:41:26.550 Have Nice Things? And I talk about the history 00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:30.230 of Goldberg and the last 20 years of his pathetic 00:41:30.230 --> 00:41:32.670 career and how much I can't stand him. This is 00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:36.059 the highlight of that. Walk down memory lane. 00:41:36.420 --> 00:41:39.440 Goldberg versus Lesnar. They were promoting the 00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.940 crap out of this match. And what happened? This 00:41:41.940 --> 00:41:45.880 was absolute garbage, folks. Garbage. You want 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:47.659 to know how long the main event lasted? It was 00:41:47.659 --> 00:41:50.940 one minute, 26 seconds. And Goldberg wins. He 00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:53.559 literally pushes Brock Lesnar, who is like a 00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:56.760 mountain. He pushes him into the corner. So just 00:41:56.760 --> 00:41:59.599 a straight two -arm, four -arm shimmy. Lesnar 00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:01.940 falls down. He gets up. Goldberg hits him with 00:42:01.940 --> 00:42:04.460 a spear. Hits him with a second spear. Jackhammer. 00:42:04.909 --> 00:42:08.150 Win. Done. Match is over. Minute 26 seconds. 00:42:08.289 --> 00:42:11.510 This match in... me and it should infuriate you, 00:42:11.570 --> 00:42:13.750 but I invite you to go watch it because all you 00:42:13.750 --> 00:42:16.170 need is 90 seconds of your life and you will 00:42:16.170 --> 00:42:17.889 know why I am so frustrated with this match. 00:42:17.969 --> 00:42:21.030 So 2016 main event Goldberg versus Lesnar. Oh 00:42:21.030 --> 00:42:23.449 God, I hate that match. I cannot stand Goldberg 00:42:23.449 --> 00:42:26.690 and that's kind of the start of my long running 00:42:26.690 --> 00:42:31.289 hatred towards his decorated career, if you will. 00:42:31.889 --> 00:42:34.849 I don't know. Those are some cool moments that 00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:36.690 I found in the history of Survivor Series and 00:42:36.690 --> 00:42:38.969 it kind of leads us up to present day. We're 00:42:38.969 --> 00:42:40.530 going to jump ahead nine years to present day 00:42:40.530 --> 00:42:43.230 2025 war games. This is the fourth straight year 00:42:43.230 --> 00:42:46.550 they have done this new war games moniker. This 00:42:46.550 --> 00:42:48.329 pay -per -view is taking place in Pepco Park 00:42:48.329 --> 00:42:51.630 in San Diego. It's going to be where the Padres 00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:53.590 play. So they're actually doing this in a baseball 00:42:53.590 --> 00:42:55.409 stadium. I'm kind of excited to see what the 00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:57.789 setup is going to be. It's going to be interesting. 00:42:58.070 --> 00:43:00.070 And like I said, the Survivor Series matches, 00:43:00.210 --> 00:43:02.789 they have... kind of taking the backseat because 00:43:02.789 --> 00:43:05.869 they are doing one match, one Survivor Series, 00:43:06.030 --> 00:43:07.909 traditional Survivor Series elimination match, 00:43:08.010 --> 00:43:09.610 but it's not even taking place on the actual 00:43:09.610 --> 00:43:11.309 pay -per -view. It's taking place on SmackDown 00:43:11.309 --> 00:43:13.909 the night before on Friday when you have Team 00:43:13.909 --> 00:43:18.489 Sami versus Team MFT. Apparently they don't think 00:43:18.489 --> 00:43:20.289 this is that important of a story, so they're 00:43:20.289 --> 00:43:22.130 not even putting on the pay -per -view. And so 00:43:22.130 --> 00:43:23.909 they're like, oh yeah, we're having a traditional 00:43:23.909 --> 00:43:25.690 Survivor Series match, but it's not even on the 00:43:25.690 --> 00:43:27.670 show. Okay, whatever. I don't know. I thought 00:43:27.670 --> 00:43:29.489 that was fun to kind of hop in the DeLorean and 00:43:29.489 --> 00:43:32.309 check out some of the old school Survivor Series, 00:43:32.530 --> 00:43:34.670 the history of Survivor Series, some things that 00:43:34.670 --> 00:43:37.150 have popped up throughout time. But yeah, let's 00:43:37.150 --> 00:43:39.750 do a quick rundown of what we got going on at 00:43:39.750 --> 00:43:41.969 WarGames. There's only four matches on the card, 00:43:42.070 --> 00:43:44.750 four matches. And we start with the women's title 00:43:44.750 --> 00:43:47.360 match between Stephanie Vakir and... Nikki Bella. 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.880 If you've watched recent wrestling programming 00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.199 lately, Nikki Bella has kind of taken the heel 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:56.360 turn. She turned on Vek here. She was supposed 00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.420 to be her friend, helping her through some of 00:43:58.420 --> 00:44:00.940 the nonsense. And then, of course, she levels 00:44:00.940 --> 00:44:02.480 her in the ring and then we're off and running 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.019 and she's demanding a title shot. Who do I want 00:44:05.019 --> 00:44:06.940 to win? Stephanie Vek here. Who do I think is 00:44:06.940 --> 00:44:08.460 going to win? Stephanie Vek here. There's no 00:44:08.460 --> 00:44:10.039 way you're putting the title on Nikki Bella. 00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:12.579 Sorry. Thanks for coming back. But you're just 00:44:12.579 --> 00:44:15.659 not. worthy of carrying the belt i don't anyway 00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:18.199 there's really not much more to say if it would 00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.980 shock the crap out of me if they give the belt 00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:23.780 to nikki bella there's no way no chance so next 00:44:23.780 --> 00:44:26.119 match we have john cena who is your intercontinental 00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:29.639 champion he has a rematch against dirty dom mysterio 00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:33.510 this is for the title Yeah, I'm loving, loving 00:44:33.510 --> 00:44:37.949 the closing finale run of the John Cena retirement 00:44:37.949 --> 00:44:40.769 tour. Love it. I love the tournament. And we'll 00:44:40.769 --> 00:44:43.789 talk about that next week. But I love what they're 00:44:43.789 --> 00:44:46.670 doing with the whole The Last Time Is Now tournament. 00:44:46.949 --> 00:44:51.019 And I love this. Little run he has with Dom Mysterio. 00:44:51.139 --> 00:44:53.639 Do I think he's going to beat Dom? Probably, 00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.219 but I don't know. I kind of want to go with who 00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:58.920 I want to win and who I think is going to win. 00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.099 I want Dom to win because I think Dom with the 00:45:01.099 --> 00:45:04.559 belt is great. And what does John Cena need the 00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.219 Intercontinental belt for? He completed the Grand 00:45:07.219 --> 00:45:09.829 Slam. Now he's owned every title. It's awesome. 00:45:09.889 --> 00:45:11.550 It was a great moment. But he really doesn't 00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:14.309 need to keep it. And kind of this is Dom's home 00:45:14.309 --> 00:45:16.730 turf. So I'd love to see Dom win in San Diego. 00:45:16.969 --> 00:45:19.150 Who do I think is going to win? If I had to bet, 00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:22.289 I think I would bet on Dom anyway. Because like 00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:24.869 I said, I don't think Cena needs the belt going 00:45:24.869 --> 00:45:29.690 into his last match on December 13th in Washington, 00:45:29.829 --> 00:45:32.690 D .C. So I'm going with Dom for both. And then 00:45:32.690 --> 00:45:35.030 let's get into these war matches, the war games 00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:37.329 matches. Let's start with the female and the 00:45:37.329 --> 00:45:40.409 female war games match. We have Team Rhea Ripley, 00:45:40.469 --> 00:45:43.510 Io Sky, Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair, and the 00:45:43.510 --> 00:45:46.199 last... added member this happened the other 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:50.099 day on tv we have aj lee so she just got added 00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:51.960 to this match and against and they are going 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:55.159 against the team of nia jacks lash legend the 00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.599 kabuki warriors and their last edition becky 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.159 lynch this is this is awesome i'm actually really 00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.719 excited about this there's kind of a lot of stuff 00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.500 going on You had the whole Charlotte Rhea thing 00:46:06.500 --> 00:46:08.559 where are they going to learn to trust each other? 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:10.739 Can they get along? And then the last additions 00:46:10.739 --> 00:46:13.960 of AJ and Becky. I love, I've said this before, 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.239 I love the work Becky's doing. It's fan -freaking 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:18.519 -tastic. I'd love to see where this is going. 00:46:18.860 --> 00:46:21.659 Who do I think is going to win? I think Team 00:46:21.659 --> 00:46:24.159 Rhea is going to win. Who do I want to win? I 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:27.139 want Becky Lynch's team to win. I think it would... 00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.739 go a long way toward furthering the story of 00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:33.559 you just brought up Lash Legend. You just put 00:46:33.559 --> 00:46:36.039 the titles on the Kabuki Warriors. I think it 00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.920 could be good to keep the... The push going with 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:41.739 that team. So that's going to be interesting 00:46:41.739 --> 00:46:43.639 match. I can't wait to see what happens. And 00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.420 then what I think is going to be the main event. 00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:47.139 So I think how they're going to do this. I think 00:46:47.139 --> 00:46:48.980 the women are going to start to show. They'll 00:46:48.980 --> 00:46:50.719 probably have the two other matches. And then 00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.800 to close. You'll have the men's war games matches. 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.659 So here you have team superheroes. Led by CM 00:46:55.659 --> 00:46:58.300 Punk. Cody Rhodes. The Usos. Jimmy and Jay. And 00:46:58.300 --> 00:47:01.559 the last added member. The returning Roman Reigns. 00:47:01.619 --> 00:47:03.219 It seems like we're saying he's returning every 00:47:03.219 --> 00:47:05.320 month. But that's fine. Whatever. I understand. 00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:07.900 Against division. So the Braun and Braun legal 00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:10.909 team. Logan Paul, Drew McIntyre, and their final 00:47:10.909 --> 00:47:13.869 member, Brock Lesnar. This is going to be great. 00:47:13.969 --> 00:47:17.070 I think this is going to be like a car wreck. 00:47:18.030 --> 00:47:19.849 You're going to see car wreck after car wreck. 00:47:19.949 --> 00:47:21.670 I think this is going to be a fantastic match. 00:47:21.869 --> 00:47:23.909 I have no idea what's going to happen in this. 00:47:24.090 --> 00:47:27.969 Who do I want to win? I am a fan of chaos, so 00:47:27.969 --> 00:47:30.989 I actually want to see the team of The Vision, 00:47:31.110 --> 00:47:33.849 Logan, Drew, and Brock win this. Who do I think 00:47:33.849 --> 00:47:35.789 is going to win? I think the good guys will win. 00:47:36.829 --> 00:47:39.889 I think Punk and Rhodes and Roman, how do you 00:47:39.889 --> 00:47:42.590 have those three in a match and have them lose? 00:47:42.809 --> 00:47:45.070 So I don't know. That's kind of what I think 00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:48.349 is going to happen, but I am super excited, super 00:47:48.349 --> 00:47:50.750 excited to watch this show. Probably won't be 00:47:50.750 --> 00:47:53.190 able to watch live, but we're definitely going 00:47:53.190 --> 00:47:55.489 to get to it, and we're going to review it in 00:47:55.489 --> 00:47:58.909 a future episode. I'm super excited. It's a really, 00:47:59.030 --> 00:48:01.269 really good show. I encourage everyone to go 00:48:01.269 --> 00:48:04.059 check it out. And then finally... Card collectors, 00:48:04.179 --> 00:48:06.980 hobby enthusiasts, how are we feeling? Just on 00:48:06.980 --> 00:48:10.099 the heels of me praising Topps up and down for 00:48:10.099 --> 00:48:13.780 their Topps paper basketball product. I said 00:48:13.780 --> 00:48:16.659 I dove into some Fanatics boxes. I said it was 00:48:16.659 --> 00:48:19.119 a good product. Just after all that, everyone 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.480 was super excited because Topps Chrome basketball 00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.880 was about to hit the shelves or actually go for 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:27.019 pre -order. And just when I got done giving them 00:48:27.019 --> 00:48:30.619 praise, they went insane with the... box prices 00:48:30.619 --> 00:48:33.000 did you guys see this it was on sale for about 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.119 five minutes and a hobby box of tops chrome basketball 00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:41.340 retailed for 370 dollars 370 dollars and a jumbo 00:48:41.340 --> 00:48:46.239 hobby box was at 700 and i'm just like oh here 00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:49.039 we go again there's no chance i'm even gonna 00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.199 attempt to pony up to the table on this one. 00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:54.380 And it's just frustrating because I saw the kind 00:48:54.380 --> 00:48:57.960 of, I saw the sell sheet. I looked over the checklist. 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:00.940 I looked at the cards, the inserts. These cards 00:49:00.940 --> 00:49:02.800 are awesome. I want to be a part of this, but 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.800 there is no chance. That's what you got. No chance 00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.360 at all that I'm paying $700 for a jumbo hobby. 00:49:09.539 --> 00:49:11.980 And it's so frustrating. And I get it. I get 00:49:11.980 --> 00:49:13.659 it. The market is what the market is. And if 00:49:13.659 --> 00:49:15.679 people are willing to pay it, then what the heck 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.230 does it matter what I have to say? I think there's 00:49:19.230 --> 00:49:21.909 a ton of people who are in my shoes who are just 00:49:21.909 --> 00:49:25.909 like, what? $700? $370 for a hobby? Are you crazy? 00:49:26.469 --> 00:49:30.070 That's just not ever in the cards for most people 00:49:30.070 --> 00:49:32.550 who are in this hobby, in this space. And so 00:49:32.550 --> 00:49:35.789 the breakers gobbled them up. And who knows what 00:49:35.789 --> 00:49:38.289 the... We're seeing these same boxes already 00:49:38.289 --> 00:49:41.550 being advertised on eBay for $1 ,000, $1 ,100, 00:49:41.849 --> 00:49:44.929 $1 ,200. It's like we've lost our minds. We've 00:49:44.929 --> 00:49:46.989 lost our minds. And I was super excited about 00:49:46.989 --> 00:49:52.170 the product. And it's just... It's crazy frustrating 00:49:52.170 --> 00:49:55.389 when it's one thing if you can't get it because 00:49:55.389 --> 00:50:00.769 EQL or the product's gone by the time you're 00:50:00.769 --> 00:50:04.630 up to bat. But I don't know. When you can't even 00:50:04.630 --> 00:50:06.530 step up to the plate because you're completely 00:50:06.530 --> 00:50:08.969 priced out already. It's just that's super frustrating. 00:50:09.130 --> 00:50:11.190 So what else is going on? I finally got to open 00:50:11.190 --> 00:50:15.090 my Topps Update Baseball Hobby Box. Jumbo Hobby. 00:50:15.250 --> 00:50:16.889 It was the first time I actually got a jumbo. 00:50:16.989 --> 00:50:19.090 And like I said, comparatively, I think I spent 00:50:19.090 --> 00:50:22.500 $180 on a... Jumbo hobby of Topps Update Baseball, 00:50:22.579 --> 00:50:24.719 which I'm not saying it's in the same realm, 00:50:24.860 --> 00:50:28.099 but you go from $180, $190, $200 to $700 for 00:50:28.099 --> 00:50:30.219 basketball. I mean, I could buy three of these 00:50:30.219 --> 00:50:32.420 for the price of that. What are we talking about 00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:34.659 here? It was a fun rip. I had a good time. I 00:50:34.659 --> 00:50:36.500 made a YouTube video. If you can, go check it 00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:38.380 out. It's a good time. What else we got going 00:50:38.380 --> 00:50:41.969 on? I saw this coming up. And I'm kind of thinking 00:50:41.969 --> 00:50:44.550 about diving in. So I know this is a lower end 00:50:44.550 --> 00:50:46.050 if money were no object, but this is going to 00:50:46.050 --> 00:50:48.090 be my if money were no object by the week. This 00:50:48.090 --> 00:50:50.090 is the Game of Thrones, the Great Houses trading 00:50:50.090 --> 00:50:53.530 card box set. I'm actually kind of excited about 00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:56.469 this. It's a small base set. It's only 61 cards 00:50:56.469 --> 00:51:00.050 and you get characters from all the major houses 00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:02.389 in Game of Thrones. There's some really cool 00:51:02.389 --> 00:51:05.329 autos, some really cool dual autographs, some 00:51:05.329 --> 00:51:08.619 good relic autos, some... triple quad autos. 00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:10.980 I mean, some of your main players, this is only 00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:15.159 $150. You get 24 packs, five cards per pack, 00:51:15.260 --> 00:51:18.340 which is what that's 120 cards, quick math. And 00:51:18.340 --> 00:51:20.679 I'm looking over the sell sheet of this and it's, 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.340 it's pretty sweet. It's pretty sweet. I'm not 00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:26.179 sure I would want a George R .R. Martin auto, 00:51:26.300 --> 00:51:28.719 but hey, it's there for the taking. But also 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.760 Pedro Pascal, Kit Harington, Amelia Clark. They 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:36.000 sign all these cards. Obviously, Pascal had a 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.500 quite gruesome death on the show. Spoiler alert. 00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:40.119 But if you haven't checked out Game of Thrones, 00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:42.599 I highly recommend it. It's awesome. Yeah, this 00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.099 might be something I'm going to be diving into 00:51:46.099 --> 00:51:47.920 just because it looks like a ton of fun. The 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.460 cards look pretty good. And there is a quad auto 00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:53.860 car that features, I think, most of the Stark 00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:56.679 children, all four Stark children. And then Jon 00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.500 Snow added to it. I don't know. It's pretty neat. 00:51:59.579 --> 00:52:02.619 There's also some hand -drawn sketch cards, which 00:52:02.619 --> 00:52:06.239 just look... pretty fire. So I'm excited for 00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:08.380 this for 150. Are you kidding me? Why not? Why 00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:10.519 not? Plus, if money were no object by the week, 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:12.340 yeah, we're going to go with that. But I think 00:52:12.340 --> 00:52:14.860 that's going to wrap up this episode of the three 00:52:14.860 --> 00:52:17.219 T's. I appreciate everyone stopping in and checking 00:52:17.219 --> 00:52:19.500 it out. 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And as always, I appreciate you all very, 00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:56.030 very much. So until next time, whether it's ripping 00:52:56.030 --> 00:52:59.269 packs, breaking tables, or dropping elbows, keep 00:52:59.269 --> 00:53:02.230 doing what you love. And as always, Go Bills!