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Hour 3 - Mishandled · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Oh, what's going on? Happy Friday morning to you? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Will you trace it back? Who called in here? From
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Speaker 1: my guy.
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Speaker 2: Craig in Wisconsin, we had a big debate about All
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Speaker 2: Star status. If you're a fill in, I don't think
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Speaker 2: you should get All Star status. And my guy Craig
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Speaker 2: was like, I mean, do they say you're filling in
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Speaker 2: for Big Ben. I'm like, yeah, they do. That's exactly
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Speaker 2: what they say. Like just a couple of seconds ago,
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Speaker 2: you know I'm filling in. This isn't my new shift.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's still the.
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Speaker 2: Big Ben Mallor Show, just with fillings. So I won't
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Speaker 2: restate the whole take. I just think if Caitlin Clark
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Speaker 2: is banged up, she's not gonna be in the All
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Speaker 2: Star Game. Whoever takes her spot should just be a replacement.
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Speaker 2: She should not have All Star status. I think that
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Speaker 2: should be the same in any league, whether we're talking
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Speaker 2: about the NFL and the Pro Bowl. If you're just
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Speaker 2: filling in, if you're the replacement, you should just be
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Speaker 2: the replacement. You're not a Pro bowler, You're a replacement dude.
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Speaker 2: Same thing in basketball, Like and and we had someone
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Speaker 2: text Kop that said, well, if that's the case.
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Speaker 1: Then no one's gonna play. I don't agree with that.
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Speaker 2: I don't agree with this idea that you can't find anybody.
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Speaker 2: No one's gonna want to, I don't know, take a
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Speaker 2: trip be around the best players in the game. Of course,
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Speaker 2: the leagues can add some bells and whistles. You're not
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Speaker 2: gonna get the status of being an All Star or
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Speaker 2: a Pro Bowler. But hey, we're gonna sweeten the pot
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Speaker 2: for you. We'll throw a little cash your way. We'll
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Speaker 2: give you some you know, some parting gifts. We'll make
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Speaker 2: it worth your time. And they might have to do
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Speaker 2: a little bit more if they're not putting the the
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Speaker 2: All Star or Pro Bowl status on top of it.
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Speaker 2: But you're telling me these rich leagues can't do that.
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Speaker 2: Come on, you shouldn't get All Star Pro Bowl status
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Speaker 2: if you're just a fill in. It's as common sense
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Speaker 2: as it gets. But I want to talk about this.
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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about the most impactful contract in
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Speaker 2: NFL history. Now let me walk it back just a smidge.
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Speaker 2: I want to leave the door cracked, just ever so slightly.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this is certainly the most impactful NFL
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Speaker 2: contract in modern history. Okay, so just take I've been
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Speaker 2: I was born in seventy seven. I'm forty seven years old.
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Speaker 1: While I've been born, well, I've been alive.
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Speaker 2: This is the most impactful NFL contract during that span.
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Speaker 2: It's Deshaun Watson's fully guaranteed contract. That's the most impactful
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Speaker 2: NFL contract.
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Speaker 1: And we'll call it the modern era.
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Speaker 2: The only reason I say the modern era when the
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Speaker 2: league goes back as far as it does, there could
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Speaker 2: have been some random signing and if not for this signing,
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Speaker 2: there is no league, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 2: those really developmental stages.
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Speaker 1: Of the league.
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Speaker 2: So I want to leave the door cracked open where
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Speaker 2: I'm not an NFL historian on that level, So hey,
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Speaker 2: maybe there's something that I'm not aware of that literally
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Speaker 2: is more impactful. So I'll leave the door cracked on that.
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Speaker 2: I'll just say in the modern era. You know, we're
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Speaker 2: talking from seventy seven on till present day. Deshaun Watson
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Speaker 2: signing a fully guaranteed two hundred and thirty million dollar
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Speaker 2: contract is the most impactful contract in NFL modern history.
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Speaker 2: The reasons why are if you look at what it
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Speaker 2: led to. The funny twist is Deshaun Watson has had
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Speaker 2: zero impact on the Browns. He's had no impact on
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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, but he's had a huge impact on
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Speaker 2: the National Football League. And we're not looking for the
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Speaker 2: NFL contract that impacted a team or a couple at teams.
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Speaker 2: We're looking for an NFL contract that affected the league
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Speaker 2: the most, and that's DeShawn Watson's contract.
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Speaker 1: I gave you the whole story.
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Speaker 2: This goes back to March of twenty twenty two, and
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to restate the whole thing. Just what
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Speaker 2: matters in this this take of mind that I'm throwing
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Speaker 2: at you. Okay, So Deshaun signed his two hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty million dollars fully guaranteed deal in March of twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty two.
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Speaker 1: What did it lead to?
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Speaker 2: It led to other NFL owners being pissed, Okay, to
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Speaker 2: the point where they met at the NFL Owners meetings
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Speaker 2: that same month later in March of twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 2: and they gave a presentation the NFL urged teams, urged
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Speaker 2: team owners to not give out fully guaranteed contracts, and
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Speaker 2: they said, if this guarantee, if guarantees continue to grow
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Speaker 2: in both amount and number of players. Then there's a
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Speaker 2: risk that they become the norm in contracts regardless of
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Speaker 2: player quality, that not only has the potential to hinder
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Speaker 2: roster management, but set a market standard that will be
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Speaker 2: difficult to walk back. That was literally in black and white.
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Speaker 2: They're giving like pamphlets like here's what we're gonna discuss.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna discuss all of us not giving out guaranteed contracts,
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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deals to these guys. All right, we're all
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Speaker 2: on this one, two, three, No guarantees. Right, That's what
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Speaker 2: it did. That, Like the nerve of these freaking dudes
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Speaker 2: man like to put it on paper is so dumb.
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Speaker 2: Just say it. There's no no track record of this
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Speaker 2: unless someone's recording everything.
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Speaker 1: But you're gonna put this on paper. Why would you
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Speaker 1: do that?
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Speaker 2: There are documents floating around, who knows who gets their
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Speaker 2: hands on it.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's just not smart. But the point is.
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Speaker 2: NFL team owners were so ticked off about this Deshaun
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Speaker 2: Watson contract and the precedent it threatened to set that
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Speaker 2: they got together and as the arbitrator ruled, engaged in
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Speaker 2: collusive behavior.
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Speaker 1: You can't quite say it's.
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Speaker 2: Collusion but by gosh, it was collusive behavior. That's the
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Speaker 2: biggest cop out ever. Man, this is textbook collusion.
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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: But the arbitrator didn't want to take it that far.
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Speaker 2: He's like, eh, I need a little bit more proof.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what more you needed there. They're they're
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Speaker 2: giving out they're handing out papers of like, yo, we
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Speaker 2: need to stop giving out. Fully guaranteed contracts. Not a
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Speaker 2: good idea bad precedent to set. You're gonna get screwed
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Speaker 2: down the road. But that's what the Deshaun Watson deal
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Speaker 2: led to. What other contract led to anything even halfway comparable?
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Speaker 2: I mean really like you could mention the Kirk Cousins
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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal, but that was for a lot less money.
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Speaker 2: A lot less money. We're talking two hundred and thirty
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Speaker 2: million dollars fully guaranteed. To the point where there are
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Speaker 2: NFL team owners texting each other. The Chargers team owner
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Speaker 2: Dean Spanos, he was texting Cardinals team owner Michael Bidwell
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Speaker 2: and congratulating Bidwell for signing Kyler Murray to a deal
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Speaker 2: that had modest guaranteed money included. And Dean Spanos even
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Speaker 2: put your deal helps us for our quarterback next year.
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Speaker 2: That all traces back to Deshaun Watson's contract. There isn't
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Speaker 2: another contract in the modern NFL that's even close to
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Speaker 2: as impactful as that, And that's the hilarious thing to me. Again,
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Speaker 2: to restate it, DeShawn had no impact on the Browns,
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Speaker 2: He's done nothing, but he had a mammoth impact on
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Speaker 2: the NFL, so much so that an arbitrator had to
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Speaker 2: rule on this case whether the NFL was engaging in
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Speaker 2: collusive behavior or not.
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Speaker 1: He ruled they were.
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Speaker 2: And then the NFLPA said, you know what, let's just
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Speaker 2: sign this confidentiality agreement and not let anyone know about this.
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Speaker 1: We'll just keep this between.
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Speaker 2: You, NFL and US the Players Association. Yet the players,
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Speaker 2: they don't need to know about it. We'll just keep
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Speaker 2: it between you and you and us NFL. What is
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Speaker 2: the NFLPA doing? What are they doing? But anyway, this
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Speaker 2: all traces back to the Shawn Watson's deal.
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Speaker 1: You can you can, Brian.
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Speaker 2: What about the the Herschel Walker contract and that trade
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Speaker 2: and how impactful it was for what for the Cowboys,
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Speaker 2: for the Minnesota Vikings.
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Speaker 1: You could take that a little bit further. You could
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Speaker 1: say that the teams that.
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Speaker 2: The Cowboys beat and route to Super Bowls, the Bills,
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Speaker 2: Bills come to a certainly impacted the Bills, right like
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Speaker 2: it laid the groundwork for the Cowboys to win three
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Speaker 2: or four Super Bowls. So there are multiple teams involved.
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Speaker 2: You could come up with other contracts and hey, this
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Speaker 2: impacted three teams. Hey this impacted four teams pretty significantly. Great,
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Speaker 2: this Deshaun Watson contract affected all thirty two teams. There
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Speaker 2: isn't another contract you can come up with from seventy
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Speaker 2: on that did the same thing. That's the crazy thing
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Speaker 2: to me is that Deshaun Watson contract. That is the
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Speaker 2: most impactful league wide contract in NFL modern history.
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Speaker 1: That blows my mind a little bit. You know, and
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Speaker 1: think about this too. This is the other thing to consider.
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Speaker 2: So I'm taking a little bit of a different direction
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Speaker 2: and I'll bring it back right to where we were
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Speaker 2: with DeShawn. Okay, So the latest thing that's happened, and
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Speaker 2: this was on Thursday and Thursday evening, a couple of
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Speaker 2: these second round picks are signing. So all these second
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Speaker 2: round NFL players they were just drafted, they want fully
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Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts. This is typically not what happens very rare
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Speaker 2: in the second round. There have been a couple throughout
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Speaker 2: the years deals that have been fully guaranteed. This year,
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Speaker 2: all these second rounders want fully guaranteed contracts for a
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Speaker 2: couple of reasons. One is the number thirty three overall pick,
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Speaker 2: Carson Swessinger. He's got a fully guaranteed second round contract, okay.
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Speaker 2: Is the first pick in the second round, the second
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Speaker 2: pick of the second round, wide receiver Jaden Higgins, number
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Speaker 2: thirty four overall. He got a fully guaranteed contract. So
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Speaker 2: all these dudes are like, hey, we want ours. And
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Speaker 2: then you have Tyler Shock. He's a rookie quarterback with
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Speaker 2: the Saints. He was drafted number forty overall. Okay, he
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Speaker 2: wants a fully guaranteed contract. He's insisting on it because
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Speaker 2: Derek Carr retired and Shock stands to be the starter.
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Speaker 1: So he's like, yo, I should at least have.
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Speaker 2: A guaranteed contract over here, I'm gonna be the starter.
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have like eighty five percent guaranteed. It needs
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Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent guaranteed. A hundred is what
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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck is saying. And so all these players drafted
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Speaker 2: before Tyler Shuck at fortieth overall. All these players in
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Speaker 2: the second round after Tyler Shuck, they won a fully
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Speaker 2: guaranteed contract as well. And so one of the things
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Speaker 2: that was interesting on late Thursday night the Seahawks, they
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Speaker 2: agreed to a fully guaranteed contract with their rookie.
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Speaker 1: They signed their guy.
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Speaker 2: Right, they have Nick iman Uwari and he's got a
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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal.
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Speaker 1: Eman war a worry. I always screw this up. Here
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Speaker 1: we go, here's the official e man Worri.
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Speaker 2: There we go, e man, it's easy way, e man Worri.
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Speaker 2: So he's got a fully guaranteed contract. He was the
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Speaker 2: number thirty five overall picks, the third pick in the
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Speaker 2: second round, fully guaranteed deal. Now you could look at
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Speaker 2: this and say, all right, so the first three picks
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Speaker 2: of the second round this year, they all have fully
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Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts.
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Speaker 1: He's just the next guy in line. Maybe you could
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Speaker 1: look at it that way, or.
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Speaker 2: Baby all this stuff with the Deshaun Watson thing, there's
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Speaker 2: collusive behavior and arbitrator rules in favor of the NFLPA.
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Speaker 1: Pablo Tori gets.
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Speaker 2: His hands on these documents, he releases this sixty one
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Speaker 2: page document of the arbitrators ruling. It's all out there, right.
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Speaker 2: Maybe this is partially the NFL's way of shifting the
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Speaker 2: focus instead of hey, collusive behavior, they're trying to limit guarantee.
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Speaker 2: The NFL says, hey, look at this. Look at another
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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed contract. Another fully guaranteed deal over here, right,
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Speaker 2: the second rounder. We haven't seen this before, not the
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Speaker 2: bad NFL. No, no, we're giving out guaranteed contracts. Now.
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Speaker 2: You read the fine print, and this is like for
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Speaker 2: nine million dollars over the course of the entire deal.
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Speaker 2: You know, they're like, eh, I don't mind, that's just details.
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Speaker 2: Oh look at us, look at us fully guaranteed deals. Huh.
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Speaker 2: Forget about the collusive behavior. Think about the NFL.
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Speaker 1: We're giving out guaranteed money over here, left and right.
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think one could have something
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Speaker 2: to do with the other. I really do think it
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Speaker 2: could have something to do with the other. But we'll
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Speaker 2: see where it goes. One by one. We'll get these
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Speaker 2: second rounders signed. But I'm surprised this stuff doesn't drag
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Speaker 2: on a little bit more. You know, for the most part,
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Speaker 2: even first rounders, it's not set in Stone that you're
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Speaker 2: gonna have a fully guaranteed contract as a first round pick.
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Speaker 2: A lot of picks don't have that. I'm surprised these
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Speaker 2: negotiations don't drag out more. You know, this thing with
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Speaker 2: the second rounders. This year, we had one other guy
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Speaker 2: from the forty nine ers. He signed it a little
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Speaker 2: bit earlier on Thursday, Alfred Collins, and it's not a
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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed deal.
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Speaker 1: Now he's the.
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Speaker 2: Forty third overall pick, a little bit lower in the
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Speaker 2: second round. He didn't get a fully guaranteed deal. But
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Speaker 2: I'm surprised. So we have what to my knowledge, four
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Speaker 2: second rounders who are signed. We have the top three
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Speaker 2: guys and the forty third overall pick.
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Speaker 1: It's four guys.
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Speaker 2: That's four of thirty two second round picks. Everybody's holding
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Speaker 2: out for guaranteed money. I'm surprised that we don't have
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Speaker 2: more of these players on a yearly basis, like banging
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Speaker 2: the table. I want fully guaranteed money as a second
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Speaker 2: round pick. We're finally seeing it this year, but I'm
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Speaker 2: surprised we haven't seen it in years past. You know,
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Speaker 2: I just kept thinking, hey, the money slotted, Oh you're
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Speaker 2: the fifth overall pick boom. You're slotted to make this.
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Speaker 2: Oh you're the forty third overall pick boom. You're slotted
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Speaker 2: to make this. It's slotted.
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Speaker 1: But you can argue over language.
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Speaker 2: You can argue over how much of the contract is
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Speaker 2: guaranteed or not. You can argue over everything. I'm surprised
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Speaker 2: we haven't had that more over the years. All right,
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Speaker 2: In any event.
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Speaker 1: I'm Brian though, filling in for Big Ben Mallord.
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Speaker 2: This is not rebranded. It's still there. I'm not I'm
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Speaker 2: just merely a fill in. I should not get, you know,
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Speaker 2: third shift status. I should not get overnight late show status.
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Speaker 2: This is not I'm not changing my LinkedIn bio to
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Speaker 2: over weekday overnight host on Fox Sports Radio. That would
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Speaker 2: be incorrect, be incorrect with Raina. I'm just filling in,
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Speaker 2: just like these All Star game fill ins, these replacements,
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Speaker 2: these alternates, they shouldn't get All Star or Pro Bowl
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Speaker 2: status right there, That's what I say. Coming up next,
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Speaker 2: this guy isn't very good, but his organization made a worse.
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Speaker 2: We'll get right to you. We'll do that on the
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Speaker 2: I used to I used to know this song on guitar.
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Speaker 2: I used to play this one. I don't remember it anymore,
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Speaker 2: but you could play it. Yeah, I could play this one.
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Speaker 2: So a little fun fact hot tup time Machine for
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Speaker 2: you guys. So I moved out to La Gosh, this
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Speaker 2: was like one something like that. So I graduated college.
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Speaker 2: I've been playing guitar for half my life. So I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I'm moving to La gonna give guitar like a serious go.
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Speaker 2: And I was like when I moved there, I don't
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Speaker 2: know anybody. I don't know anyone, and so I I'm like,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to
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Speaker 2: this guitar school for a semester. I have no plans
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Speaker 2: on graduating. I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna meet a
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Speaker 2: bunch of people and uh, you know, have a bass
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Speaker 2: maybe would band together the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: So that's what I did. And so it was Musicians
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Speaker 1: Institute was.
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Speaker 2: Right there off of Hollywood, at least it was, I
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Speaker 2: don't know if it's still there, and they'd make you.
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Speaker 2: It was really cool, like part of the whole curriculum.
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Speaker 2: You had to get on stage and perform these songs.
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Speaker 2: And they would give you a list of songs that
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Speaker 2: you could pick from each week, and you had to
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Speaker 2: perform X amount of times, and Sugar from System was
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Speaker 2: one of them. And so I had to learn that
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Speaker 2: song and perform it and do the whole thing nice.
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Speaker 2: So at one point, Coop, I knew Sugar no more.
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Speaker 2: I could relearn it.
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Speaker 1: But if you're like, play it right now, prove it,
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, I don't remember, but I could relearn it.
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Speaker 2: Very good song, very good song by System that is
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Speaker 2: not one of their sucky songs, although I contend every
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Speaker 2: band has at least a handful of sucky songs, everyone,
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Speaker 2: every single one, without fail. I want to get to
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Speaker 2: the team that screwed up a player that was already
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Speaker 2: a little screwed up.
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Speaker 1: In a second. But my girl Andrea is with us
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Speaker 1: over there in Berkeley. What is going on, Andrea? How
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Speaker 1: are things good? How are you doing pretty good?
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Speaker 6: Yes? First things first, I wanted to mention that Mercury
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Speaker 6: just turned retrograde seventeenth to August eleventh.
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Speaker 1: Oh man, okay, all right, what are we in store
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Speaker 1: for here?
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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, delays and some communication confusions, some technology snaffoos,
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Speaker 6: and the first thing I thought of was the disappointment
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Speaker 6: of Caitlin Clarwhark not playing in the WNBA All Star Game.
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Speaker 6: I was really looking forward to that.
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Speaker 2: I know, can mercury and retrograde? Can it affect groin muscles?
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Speaker 1: Is that what happened with Canton over there?
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Speaker 6: Here's the thing and to your point, Mars is a
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Speaker 6: crucial planet for an athlete, the rules energy, assertion, and aggression.
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Speaker 6: She has Mars and Aries and Saturn just went into Aries.
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Speaker 6: Saturn was a skeletal system Brian bone, these Keith joints
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Speaker 6: and back.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 6: So when you have a Saturn aspect to your Mars,
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Speaker 6: it's once every twenty nine years, and it's really not
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Speaker 6: good for your health and your skeletal system. And you know,
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Speaker 6: I was hoping to montra delay not denial, but it
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Speaker 6: kind of took its toll. It's toe and Neptune is
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Speaker 6: also in Aries on her Mars, and that's kind of
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Speaker 6: like disappointing and disillusioning. So she's not in a really
20:38
Speaker 6: good space, which is too bad because she's so inspiring.
20:42
Speaker 6: She has five planets in Aquarius. She's January twenty two
20:46
Speaker 6: oh two. She's a Youngian.
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Speaker 1: See what I.
20:49
Speaker 2: Think, Andrew, and you correct me if I'm wrong over here,
20:52
Speaker 2: But I think mercury gets all the shine if I'm saturn,
20:56
Speaker 2: if I'm Neptune, like all I hear about is murcro grade?
21:01
Speaker 2: What about us in aries? What about the impact of that?
21:04
Speaker 2: That's what I'd be saying if I was.
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Speaker 6: Saturned, right, I think your point is well taken. I mean,
21:08
Speaker 6: the narrative is at the water cooler, people are talking
21:11
Speaker 6: about mercury retrograde because that's like the most commonplace transit
21:15
Speaker 6: that even people who are not astrologers are tuned into.
21:20
Speaker 6: The outer planet transits are a little more complex, so
21:24
Speaker 6: the regular layperson might not really be tuning into that,
21:30
Speaker 6: but you know, for the popularity, I mean, it trends
21:33
Speaker 6: on Twitter. You know, you just hear people who are
21:37
Speaker 6: not necessarily tuned into astrology talking and complaining about mercury retrograde.
21:42
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, we've gone mainstream.
21:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll bring this back to music, okay, And
21:50
Speaker 2: so mercury and retrograde. That would be like enter Sandman
21:55
Speaker 2: from Metallica, right, like Monster Hit.
21:59
Speaker 1: Everyone's aware of this.
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Speaker 2: It's still played in arenas and stadiums to this day.
22:04
Speaker 2: That'll and Saturn and Arias and all that. That that's
22:08
Speaker 2: more like my friend of Misery, which if you're you're
22:11
Speaker 2: not huge on Metallica right now, Andrea, that's it's a
22:16
Speaker 2: great song, but it's not a hit song. It's not
22:18
Speaker 2: a song that the non diehards would most likely be
22:21
Speaker 2: aware of. Is that what's happening with Mercury and Saturn?
22:24
Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty good computer.
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Speaker 6: Yes, that's an excellent analogy. I've seen Metallica at you know,
22:30
Speaker 6: Open for Giants games and stuff, and that said, I
22:34
Speaker 6: think you captured the essence of it. You know, it's
22:37
Speaker 6: a little you know, mercury retrograde is very commonplace. It says,
22:41
Speaker 6: oh yeah, it must be mercury retrograde. And then you
22:44
Speaker 6: know the nuances, the kind of fine points if you
22:48
Speaker 6: alluded to with the other Metallica song, unless you're really
22:52
Speaker 6: you know, tuned into the you know, other planets and
22:56
Speaker 6: how Mars is a crucial plant for an athlete. It
22:58
Speaker 6: kind of escapes you.
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Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha? That's very well as we could make it Escape.
23:05
Speaker 2: There's a Metallica song called Escape. I think it's well,
23:08
Speaker 2: we could we could make it that and really fine
23:10
Speaker 2: tune the comparison.
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Speaker 1: Right, we could do that.
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Speaker 6: Now you're talking very.
23:15
Speaker 1: Nice, well, Andrew. Always good to hear from you. I
23:17
Speaker 1: hope you have a great morning and hope everything is
23:19
Speaker 1: going well for you.
23:20
Speaker 6: The yes enjoying your show than Brian.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. There she is Andrea in Berkeley. Very nice.
23:28
Speaker 2: So we got h you know, we got some music,
23:32
Speaker 2: sports and uh you know all the uh you know, Mercury, Saturn,
23:39
Speaker 2: all that astrological stuff as well.
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Speaker 1: Pretty good. I feel like we covered a lot of
23:43
Speaker 1: ground there. What don't we have? What don't we have?
23:47
Speaker 1: That is the question right there? We even have cats,
23:50
Speaker 1: well we did.
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Speaker 6: Uh.
23:52
Speaker 2: Oreo the neighborhood cat. She had to leave after the
23:55
Speaker 2: first hour. Sadly she has not returned just yet, Fingers crossed,
24:02
Speaker 2: because sometimes she will. She'll head back two am, five am.
24:07
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe she'll make it back before the show
24:09
Speaker 2: is over.
24:10
Speaker 1: I hope so.
24:11
Speaker 2: But yeah, Oreo, Oreo is in charge. I just live
24:15
Speaker 2: in Oreo's world right now. She's that cool. Okay, Militia
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Speaker 2: feel free hit us up eight seven, seven ninety nine
24:22
Speaker 2: on Fox. You're always welcome. Let me throw this quick
24:25
Speaker 2: take at you where I saw this tweet from Adam Schefter.
24:29
Speaker 2: It just simply says Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson is believed
24:34
Speaker 2: to have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as
24:39
Speaker 2: the team prepares to report for training camp next week. Okay,
24:47
Speaker 2: if Anthony Richardson does anything in the NFL, not just
24:52
Speaker 2: this year, but ever, I'll be impressed.
24:55
Speaker 1: I'll be impressed.
24:55
Speaker 2: I don't want to write the guy off completely, and
24:59
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm just telling you I'll be impressed because
25:04
Speaker 2: so far the start has been god awful. It has
25:07
Speaker 2: been freaking terrible when and we're only two years in,
25:11
Speaker 2: so there might be some people that say, hey, Brian,
25:13
Speaker 2: you know, he's a top five pick for a reason.
25:15
Speaker 2: He does have some ability you never know if it's realized. Well,
25:19
Speaker 2: all of that is true. I can't dispute that, but
25:23
Speaker 2: what I would push back on is just how much
25:27
Speaker 2: ground he has to cover to be a legitimate starting
25:32
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. His completion percentage last year was
25:37
Speaker 2: forty seven point seven percent. Okay, he's sub not fifty percent,
25:44
Speaker 2: he's sub forty eight percent. Okay, he's put up in
25:47
Speaker 2: two years numbers that in some instances are worse than
25:52
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow's quarterback numbers in the NFL coincidentally, both Florida
25:58
Speaker 2: quarterbacks right there with a rich and Tebow. That's not
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Speaker 2: the company you want to be in. If you're Anthony Richardson,
26:04
Speaker 2: you do not want to be shoulder to shoulder with
26:06
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow in the stats department. But that's where he is.
26:11
Speaker 2: And this is where I would start looking sideways at
26:13
Speaker 2: the Colts. This is not just an Anthony Richardson thing.
26:17
Speaker 2: This is a Colts thing. The Colts mismanaged this dude
26:22
Speaker 2: so badly. I would compare it to that. I'm all
26:25
Speaker 2: about comparisons tonight. The Colts. They're like the guy who
26:30
Speaker 2: bought this high end sports car.
26:34
Speaker 1: This guy went to the dealership. He is like, I
26:36
Speaker 1: saved my money.
26:38
Speaker 2: I want a Lamborghini, give me it right now, here's
26:41
Speaker 2: all the money.
26:42
Speaker 1: And then he got it.
26:44
Speaker 2: It's back at home and instead of waiting a little bit,
26:49
Speaker 2: this guy couldn't help himself. It's raining sideways outside, the
26:53
Speaker 2: wind is going crazy, it's even hailing a little bit.
26:57
Speaker 2: And this guy who just bought a Lamborghini is like,
26:59
Speaker 2: I didn't I just keep it in the garage. We're
27:02
Speaker 2: going out, We're going for a drive, right, it's not
27:05
Speaker 2: the time to do it.
27:06
Speaker 1: Just wait, be patient.
27:10
Speaker 2: And the colts in their situation, they were not patient
27:13
Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson at all. Anthony Richardson in college, he
27:18
Speaker 2: threw less than four hundred passing attempts. He had less
27:24
Speaker 2: than four hundred passing attempts in college. You compare that
27:28
Speaker 2: to some of these guys what they did in college.
27:31
Speaker 2: Some of them are throwing for over a thousand, over
27:35
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred, sometimes over two thousand passing attempts in college.
27:40
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson had less than four hundred. He had no experience,
27:47
Speaker 2: and the Colts are like, throw him in, maybe he's
27:50
Speaker 2: ready for life in the NFL. And shockingly, he was
27:54
Speaker 2: not at all. They threw him in the deep end
27:58
Speaker 2: and he didn't know how to sw whim. I don't
28:01
Speaker 2: know why the Colts would do that. You know something
28:03
Speaker 2: that blows my mind? Think about this, Patrick Mahomes, and
28:08
Speaker 2: I could look at it real fast. Here, how many
28:11
Speaker 2: we'll do a guessing game? How many passing attempts? I
28:13
Speaker 2: don't know off the top of my head. How many
28:15
Speaker 2: passing attempts do you think Patrick Mahomes had in college?
28:20
Speaker 2: Is that Texas Tech how many? Okay, got the answer
28:25
Speaker 2: right here. Yeah, this is really tipicly fast. I'm getting
28:27
Speaker 2: a little bit better at this googling thing. So, Patrick Mahomes,
28:31
Speaker 2: he threw one thousand, three hundred and forty nine passes
28:36
Speaker 2: in college thirteen forty nine. That's almost a thousand more
28:44
Speaker 2: passes than Anthony Richardson threw in college. Okay, And what
28:48
Speaker 2: happened with those two quarterbacks? Patrick Mahomes sat the entire
28:54
Speaker 2: rookie season, his entire rookie year in the NFL except
28:59
Speaker 2: for the final game of the regular season. He started
29:01
Speaker 2: that game. That's it against Coops Broncos. I'll never forget that.
29:05
Speaker 1: And that's it. He started one game.
29:08
Speaker 2: As a rookie, even with almost over a thousand more
29:11
Speaker 2: attempts in college than Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson started right away,
29:18
Speaker 2: like Week five or something. He's starting games in the
29:21
Speaker 2: NFL with no experience, a lack of passing attempts. That
29:25
Speaker 2: was so dumb for the Colts to rush that guy.
29:30
Speaker 2: He needed to sit, He needed to develop. He did
29:34
Speaker 2: not need to be thrown into the deep end. That
29:37
Speaker 2: was such a bad approach by the Colts and now
29:41
Speaker 2: you've seen what's happened the first two years.
29:43
Speaker 1: He's been banged up like crazy.
29:45
Speaker 2: That's not the Colts fault, but he is a disaster
29:49
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. And he's got a bright quarterback mind
29:52
Speaker 2: in Shane Stikeens. Shane Stikeen was a former quarterback at
29:56
Speaker 2: a lower level, but he knows what he's doing. It's
29:59
Speaker 2: a good play call, bright offensive mind, knows the quarterback position.
30:04
Speaker 2: And Steiken's been able to do nothing so far because
30:08
Speaker 2: they threw him in too early and he just wasn't
30:12
Speaker 2: ready to swim. And I feel bad for Anthony Richardson
30:16
Speaker 2: to a degree because I think he would have had
30:18
Speaker 2: a better shot to at least be in a better
30:20
Speaker 2: position to be further developed, to not be a train
30:24
Speaker 2: wreck at this point of his NFL career. I think
30:26
Speaker 2: the Colts have a lot to do with that. I
30:30
Speaker 2: don't think a rich has crushed it by any means,
30:34
Speaker 2: but I think the Colts have been bad for him, bad, bad, bad,
30:38
Speaker 2: terrible approach. Let me go to Gary in Oakland. He's
30:41
Speaker 2: got something on All Star. Oh no, Gary's gone?
30:47
Speaker 4: Yeah?
30:48
Speaker 2: I love the All Star topic. Was he pushing back Coop?
30:51
Speaker 2: Do you know if he was fighting back. Was he
30:53
Speaker 2: fighting against logic?
30:55
Speaker 3: No, he was basically saying that the All Star Game
30:58
Speaker 3: is it's a TV show, that it's about all pros.
31:02
Speaker 1: Like that's that's a bad take. Come on, Gary, gotta
31:06
Speaker 1: do better than that. Like that's the thing.
31:08
Speaker 2: He's partially right, Okay, I'll meet him part of the way.
31:14
Speaker 2: It is a TV show. It is for entertainment. But
31:17
Speaker 2: where I completely disagree, that's not all it is. It's
31:21
Speaker 2: the prestige. It's the acknowledgment of being known as an
31:26
Speaker 2: All Star. That's a big deal. Like I played the
31:29
Speaker 2: audio of Kobe Bryant's farewell tour and they're announcing him
31:32
Speaker 2: as seventeen time All Stars.
31:35
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing.
31:36
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, I feel like and so I agree with
31:39
Speaker 3: him in a sense, it used to be a big deal.
31:43
Speaker 1: It still is, I don't think. I don't think so.
31:45
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's still a big deal. You're still going to
31:47
Speaker 2: be recognized like that. They still do it. I still
31:51
Speaker 2: hear it to this day.
31:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anybody who knows sports knows it's not a
31:55
Speaker 3: big deal anymore because of things like like what you're
31:59
Speaker 3: talking about with Miss Rosy and Tyler Huntley and other
32:03
Speaker 3: people that end up on All Star teams because nobody
32:07
Speaker 3: wants to do the All Star Game anymore. It's not
32:09
Speaker 3: even just injury replacements anymore. There's a lot of times
32:12
Speaker 3: in the NFL, right where the Pro bowlers they just
32:15
Speaker 3: don't want to do it.
32:16
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think that it's case by case. I
32:21
Speaker 2: agree with you, like generally speaking, it's been watered down
32:24
Speaker 2: quite a bit for everything that you mentioned, But I
32:27
Speaker 2: think where it's case by case. If you're a two
32:30
Speaker 2: time All Star, I mean, we got to read the
32:33
Speaker 2: fine print on that, right, Like were you on a
32:35
Speaker 2: sucky team and you were the one MLB representative from
32:39
Speaker 2: that sucky team and that's how you got in there? Right?
32:41
Speaker 6: Like?
32:42
Speaker 2: Are you a replacement All Star and that's how you
32:45
Speaker 2: got the status? Or are you like one of the greats?
32:49
Speaker 2: Are you a legit like Clayton Kershaw?
32:52
Speaker 1: Well, I know he just had the exemption as a
32:54
Speaker 1: bad example.
32:55
Speaker 3: But well no, but I'll see that's exactly you bring
32:58
Speaker 3: up a good point though, because look, I mean, obviously
33:03
Speaker 3: when you say seventeen time, also you know you're talking
33:06
Speaker 3: about one of the great ones. But even those guys, right,
33:09
Speaker 3: And I hate to say it probably even Kobe, Yeah,
33:13
Speaker 3: you're right right by the end, sure probably shouldn't have
33:16
Speaker 3: been in it, but he sure gets in it because
33:18
Speaker 3: of his career.
33:20
Speaker 1: That's fair.
33:21
Speaker 2: I remember Yao Ming had played like five games or
33:24
Speaker 2: something and was hurt and he made Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,
33:27
Speaker 2: you do have to read some fight in print from
33:29
Speaker 2: time to time. But I think, you know, we don't
33:32
Speaker 2: have to look sideways at Otani and Judge like they
33:35
Speaker 2: they're somehow getting charity for getting to the We know
33:39
Speaker 2: that they've completely deserved it, you know what I mean.
33:41
Speaker 2: So that's my point is it doesn't water down the
33:44
Speaker 2: credentials for everybody automatically, right, Like there are some guys
33:49
Speaker 2: where you know for sure they were easily no doubt
33:52
Speaker 2: All Stars, and so it's not watered down for them,
33:55
Speaker 2: I don't think. But yeah, for the dude that's like, hey,
33:58
Speaker 2: I'm a two time All Star, he might want to
34:00
Speaker 2: check into that, you know, check the legitimacy of those
34:04
Speaker 2: two All Star nods where you just the you know
34:07
Speaker 2: the Grammy Phil like seat filler guy, is that what
34:12
Speaker 2: you were?
34:12
Speaker 1: Or you're a real All Star?
34:14
Speaker 2: I just man, I think we should not give replacements
34:19
Speaker 2: the distinction of being quote unquote All Stars. Think about that,
34:23
Speaker 2: like Jacob Mezowski as a fill in, fill in, fill
34:26
Speaker 2: and filling like well down the list, replacement, alternate All Star.
34:31
Speaker 2: He's on the same footing. He's classified on the same
34:35
Speaker 2: footing as show Hey Otani and Aaron Judge. That's the
34:40
Speaker 2: dumbest thing ever. He's started five games.
34:44
Speaker 1: That's it.
34:45
Speaker 2: Like, he's not on the same level as those guys,
34:49
Speaker 2: but he has the same distinction as being a twenty
34:53
Speaker 2: twenty five All Star. That's ridiculous, but that's what they're doing.
34:59
Speaker 2: I guess the dumble UNBA is gonna do the same
35:01
Speaker 2: thing with Caitlin Clark being out and I don't get it. Hey, listen, man,
35:07
Speaker 2: it is it's for entertainment. It's partially a TV show.
35:10
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Hey have Jacob Mazarowski
35:14
Speaker 2: in the All Star Game.
35:15
Speaker 1: Invite him.
35:16
Speaker 2: Those players are gonna say, yes, Joe, don't give him
35:18
Speaker 2: the classification of being an All Star because he's not.
35:23
Speaker 1: He wasn't voted in. He's just a replacement. He's a
35:26
Speaker 1: fill in. That's what he is.
35:28
Speaker 2: That's what all the replacements were exactly that they were
35:31
Speaker 2: replacements for the real All Stars, so the replacements shouldn't
35:37
Speaker 2: get All Star status.
35:40
Speaker 1: Man, I love. We were just going right back to
35:42
Speaker 1: the well back.
35:43
Speaker 2: It's like that, Uh, we're Damar Derozen shooting a mid
35:47
Speaker 2: range shot.
35:47
Speaker 1: We're just going right back to over and over.
35:50
Speaker 3: All.
35:50
Speaker 1: Right, we'll turn the page from this.
35:51
Speaker 2: Coming up, Oh, Coop, I've got a poker story for you,
35:56
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35:59
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Speaker 4: Okay.
36:46
Speaker 1: So here's the deal.
36:48
Speaker 2: So, Michael the Grinder Miss Rocky, he won the World
36:52
Speaker 2: Series of Poker Main Event. Koopy won is eighth World
36:57
Speaker 2: Series of Poker bracelet. He's tied for fifth all time,
37:01
Speaker 2: and he eliminated the last guy on Wednesday afternoon heads
37:06
Speaker 2: up Poker MS Rocky. He wins ten million dollars. That's amazing.
37:13
Speaker 2: The World Series main event had a little over nine
37:18
Speaker 2: seven hundred players, so we're in the neighborhood of ten
37:21
Speaker 2: thousand players. The prize pool was over ninety million dollars.
37:27
Speaker 2: The guy that came in second place got six million bucks.
37:30
Speaker 5: Not bad.
37:31
Speaker 4: Not bad.
37:32
Speaker 1: As the runner up, I would take it. I would
37:35
Speaker 1: absolutely take that as well.
37:37
Speaker 2: Now, Coop, there's a story that's gonna hurt your heart,
37:42
Speaker 2: and there are a couple of stories that I think will.
37:45
Speaker 1: Make you smile. Okay, Okay.
37:48
Speaker 2: So the first thing that I think will hurt your
37:50
Speaker 2: heart's a pivotal hand on Tuesday. Okay, everything ended on Wednesday.
37:55
Speaker 2: We're getting down to the nitty gritty on Tuesday, okay.
37:59
Speaker 2: And so he had Miss Rocky. He's in a pivotal
38:02
Speaker 2: hand with the guy who finished in second Placenock. I
38:07
Speaker 2: think his name is uh huh so John Wosnock. He
38:10
Speaker 2: is not a professional player. He's gone up against the
38:13
Speaker 2: grinder who is a pro, and so Miss Rocky he
38:17
Speaker 2: went all in. Miss Rocky had ace king the non
38:21
Speaker 2: Professionalsnock he had pocket kings. Okay, big slick ace king
38:27
Speaker 2: against pocket kings. Miss Rocky spiked an ace on the river.
38:34
Speaker 2: That's a little piece of you dies if you're the
38:37
Speaker 2: guy with cowboys over there, you know Wisnock. That was
38:41
Speaker 2: a big shift in chip stack right there. So that
38:45
Speaker 2: has a big pivotal hand. How about this. This will
38:47
Speaker 2: make you smile if you're in the grinder shoes Coop.
38:51
Speaker 2: Good start on Wednesday, first hand of the day, he
38:55
Speaker 2: knocked somebody out. Second hand of the afternoon he knock
39:00
Speaker 2: another player. That's a crazy start. Wow.
39:03
Speaker 3: Here that guy was calling with he called it ten
39:05
Speaker 3: to six.
39:07
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I didn't realize that.
39:08
Speaker 3: Yeah. The second guy he knocked out had ten six
39:11
Speaker 3: suited and the grinder was the one that raised raised
39:15
Speaker 3: the guy all in and he called him. I don't
39:18
Speaker 3: know what he was doing, but they were both they
39:20
Speaker 3: were both very short stacked now.
39:21
Speaker 1: Here real fast.
39:22
Speaker 2: The final hand, I think Miss Rocky should owe at
39:25
Speaker 2: least a million dollars, should be a minimum half a
39:28
Speaker 2: million dollar fine. Here final hand, Miss Rocky has ten
39:32
Speaker 2: three of clubs wasnock. He's got the ace of spades
39:37
Speaker 2: and the nine of diamonds wasnock. He has top pair,
39:41
Speaker 2: he's got aces and nines. Miss Rocky. After the turn,
39:45
Speaker 2: he's got a club flush. Okay, and Miss Rocky, I'll
39:49
Speaker 2: play the audio for you on the other side. I
39:51
Speaker 2: don't have time for it right here. But Miss Rocky
39:54
Speaker 2: didn't know the situation at all, Like what the river
39:58
Speaker 2: card about to be? Flip ms Rocky's like, we want baby,
40:02
Speaker 2: it's over.
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Speaker 1: It's over.
40:04
Speaker 2: It's like the other guy could he could river an
40:07
Speaker 2: ace or a nine and have a full boat and win.
40:11
Speaker 1: And Miss Rocky thought he was good. He thought he
40:13
Speaker 1: already had it.
40:15
Speaker 2: I think in that situation, when you win ten million
40:17
Speaker 2: dollars significant fine, he's what I say, He's gonna be
40:22
Speaker 2: cursed if he doesn't pay pay for that slip up.
40:25
Speaker 2: I'll get to the audio. And also, this player thinks
40:27
Speaker 2: something unprecedented will happen in the NFL