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How MetaOptics Are Quietly Revolutionizing The Way We See The World · Investor Exchange

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  Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
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  I want you to just grab your smartphone for a second, just run your finger over
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  the back of it. You feel that. Yeah, that annoying little camera bump. Exactly.
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  That bulky, protruding bump that makes your phone, you know,
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  wobble every time you lay it flat on a table.
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  Now, I want you to imagine a world where that bump just completely ceases to exist.
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  Right. Where it's just completely smooth. Completely flat, the back of your
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  phone is seamless, but the camera inside is somehow, like, infinitely better,
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  it's lighter, and it's cheaper to produce.
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  Which sounds like science fiction, honestly. It really does.
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  But welcome to this deep dive. Today we are looking at a fundamental shift in
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  optical technology that could obviously make that a reality.
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  And, more importantly, we're putting on our investor hats today to examine a
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  company that's trying to commercialize it.
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  It's a fascinating proposition. I mean, mainly because the technology we're
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  analyzing today, it doesn't just, you know, improve on existing camera lenses.
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  It kind of throws out hundreds of years of conventional physics regarding how
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  we capture and manipulate light.
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  Right. Which is exactly why we need to unpack it. So our mission today is to
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  analyze a recent non-rated special update report from UOB Cahan.
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  It's on a newly public Singaporean tech company called MetaOptics. optics.
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  Right. And for those looking up, you can find them on the Singapore Exchange
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  under the ticker Medeo SP.
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  Yeah, Medeo SP. We are going to break down their financial health.
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  Well, they're rather unique business model and the broader industry outlook,
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  because if they actually pull this off, the implications for consumer electronics
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  are just staggering. Absolutely massive.
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  But before we get into the dollars and cents, let's demystify the core technology here.
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  The buzzword in the report is
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  medallenses. What are we physically talking about when we say medallens?
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  Okay, so to really appreciate the medallens, we have to look at the flaw in
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  traditional lenses first.
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  So for centuries, focusing light, whether that's for a giant telescope or just
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  the camera in your phone, it meant using curved glass.
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  Light enters the curve, it bends, and it focuses on a sensor. Right, basic optics.
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  Exactly. But a single curved lens creates distortion.
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  You know, colors separate, edges blur.
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  So to fix that, smartphone manufacturers have to stack like five,
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  six, or even seven differently curved lenses on top of each other just to correct the light path.
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  Which is why we have the physical bump. I mean, you simply need the physical
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  depth to house that heavy stack of glass.
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  Right. And that physical depth is the exact bottleneck a Medlans bypasses entirely.
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  So instead of using sick, curved glass to bend light over a physical distance,
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  a Medlans is a single, ultra-thin, completely flat surface. Wait,
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  completely flat? Completely flat.
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  And etched onto that flat surface are millions of microscopic nanoscale structures.
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  We call them nanopillars or fins. And here's where the physics gets incredibly cool.
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  These pillars are actually smaller than the wavelength of the light hitting them.
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  Okay, let me stop you right there because the typical explanation of,
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  you know, they trick the light into bending, that never really sat well with me.
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  I mean, if the surface is completely flat, how are these microscopic pillars
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  actually forcing the light to focus on a single point without a curve?
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  Right, it's a bit mind-bending. It all comes down to something called phase shifting.
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  So imagine a marching band walking in a straight line and they suddenly need
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  to pivot around a corner. Okay, sure.
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  The people on the outside of the curve, they have to walk faster, right?
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  Yeah. The people on the inside had to take smaller, slower steps so the line
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  stays completely straight as it turns.
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  Oh, I see where you're going with this. Yeah, so the nanopillars on a medallin's,
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  they act like speed bumps for light waves. Yeah.
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  By varying the shape and the rotation of these pillars across that flat surface,
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  they selectively slow down specific parts of the incoming light wave.
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  So they're timing it. Exactly.
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  The light hitting the edges is delayed just enough so that it reaches the focal
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  point at the exact same time as the light hitting the center.
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  So they are engineering the light's arrival time rather than its physical path.
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  Okay, that makes so much more sense. So instead of a heavy stack of curved magnifying
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  glasses bending the light through sheer mass, it's basically a flat microchip
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  running an intricate microscopic obstacle course that forces the light waves
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  to synchronize perfectly.
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  That is a great way to think about it. You're replacing bulk physical geometry
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  with nanoscale engineering. Wow.
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  And that brings us to the company trying to actually sell this,
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  MetaOptics. They spun out of a research environment in Singapore back in 2021,
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  and they just listed on the SGX Catalyst board in September 2025.
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  So they're fresh onto the public markets. And looking at this UOB-K-Hayon report,
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  their approach to monetization is pretty aggressive.
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  I mean, they aren't just trying to manufacture a lens and sell it to a phone
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  company. They're attempting to build a completely vertically integrated platform.
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  Yeah, they're operating across four distinct segments of the supply chain,
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  which, you know, is highly unusual for a company of this size. Right.
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  First, they have their equipment segment. So they actually engineer and sell
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  the massive machines required to prototype these lenses.
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  Specifically something called a direct laser writer or DLW.
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  It's essentially a highly precise 3D printer for optical structures.
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  Okay, so they make the machine that makes the lens. And then segment two is
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  fabrication, where they take custom orders and actually print the metal lenses
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  for clients. Right, they run the machines.
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  And then segment three is products. So taking those lenses and putting them
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  into their own Internet of Things devices, like 3D biometric sensors and AI smart glasses.
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  But it's the fourth segment that I actually find really compelling,
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  and that's the AI software.
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  Yeah, the software layer is arguably what makes the hardware viable in the first place.
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  Because when you shrink an optical system down to a flat surface,
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  you inevitably introduce new types of optical aberrations.
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  Because the real world is messy. Exactly. The physics are never perfectly clean outside the lab.
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  So MedOptics develops the underlying algorithms that take the raw,
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  potentially imperfect data captured by the Medilins and computationally corrects
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  it on the fly to produce a flawless image.
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  It's what we call hardware and software co-design. That's super smart.
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  So the lens itself doesn't necessarily have to be 100% perfect.
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  It just has to be predictable. And then the AI cleans up the rest.
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  Okay, there is a massive detail in this report regarding their market niche
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  that we really need to scrutinize.
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  Most of the heavyweights in this emerging industry like companies like Medalins
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  or NIL technology, they are heavily focused on infrared Medalins.
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  Yes, that's a key distinction.
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  But MetaOptics is deliberately pivoting toward color imaging using visible light on glass substrates.
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  Now, if the major players are avoiding visible light, I have to assume the physics
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  there are just significantly more punishing.
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  Are they finding a brilliant untouched niche or are they kind of swimming upstream
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  in a market that doesn't really exist yet? Well, the physics are exponentially harder.
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  Infrared light has a relatively long wavelength, so it's somewhat forgiving.
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  Designing a nanopillar to manipulate a long, single-frequency infrared wave
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  is kind of like drawing on a whiteboard with a really thick marker.
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  Okay. Visible light, however, is this messy combination of extremely short wavelengths.
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  Yeah. You've got red, green, and blue all hitting the lens at the exact same time.
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  To manipulate visible light without chromatic aberration, which is where the
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  color's separate and blur, you need structures that are drastically smaller and way more complex.
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  So you need a hyperfine-tipped pen, not a marker. Exactly.
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  And that is the huge manufacturing hurdle.
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  To create structures that small, MetaOptics is relying on a scalable manufacturing
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  process called 12-inch DUV immersion photolithography.
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  Okay, let's break that jargon down a bit for the audience.
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  Lithography is basically how we print computer chips. And DUV stands for deep ultraviolet light.
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  Right. So following the logic here, if visible light wavelengths are too small
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  to manipulate with standard manufacturing, They are using deep ultraviolet light,
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  which has an even shorter, tighter
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  wavelength, to essentially carve these microscopic pillars into the glass.
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  The light itself is acting as the ultra-fine scalpel. You nailed it.
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  And the 12-inch part of that phrase is just as crucial.
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  They're using the exact same advanced foundries and 12-inch wafers used by the
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  global semiconductor industry to print processors.
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  So instead of polishing glass lenses one by one in a factory,
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  they can print different.
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  Thousands, potentially millions
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  of these color metal lenses simultaneously onto a single large wafer.
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  If they conquer the visible light physics, this process provides the immediate
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  scale needed for the mass market consumer electronic space.
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  And the visible light market, meaning, you know, standard cameras and drones,
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  phones and laptops, that absolutely dwarfs the infrared sensor market.
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  So it's this tension between a brutal technical challenge and just an astronomical
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  total addressable market.
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  Exactly. High risk, high reward. OK, so with that framework established,
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  let's actually look at their performance. Let's see if the market is buying into this grand plan.
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  Looking at their top line revenue for 2025, the report enthusiastically highlights
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  a year over year growth rate of eight hundred and ninety one percent.
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  Which is exactly the kind of headline number that grabs attention.
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  It grabs attention, definitely, but it also triggers my skepticism a bit.
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  Anytime I see a growth rate nearing a thousand percent, I immediately have to
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  ask, you know, what is the denominator here?
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  And looking at the raw figures, total revenue for 2025 was just 0.8 million
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  Singapore dollars, specifically S-787,388 dollars.
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  So we are looking at massive percentage growth, but they haven't even cracked
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  a million dollars in sales yet.
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  We are dealing with an incredibly early stage entity.
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  We absolutely are. But, you know, in deep tech.
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  The source of that early revenue often matters a lot more than the raw volume.
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  That $0.8 million wasn't just, you know, random consulting fees.
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  It represented a critical commercial milestone.
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  Yeah. It was the successful delivery of their first direct laser writer equipment
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  to a semiconductor partner in Taiwan.
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  In fact, Taiwan accounted for nearly 80% of their total revenue for 2025.
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  See, that Taiwan connection is a massive signal to me because Taiwan is the
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  undisputed global epicenter of semiconductor foundries. If you are building
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  a business model that relies on printing lenses like computer chips,
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  you absolutely have to integrate with the Taiwanese supply chain.
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  It tells me they're trying to plug into existing multi-billion dollar infrastructure
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  rather than trying to, you know, build their own fabrication plants from scratch.
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  It's a strategic masterstroke, assuming they can maintain the partnership,
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  of course. They also demonstrated some traction in their product segment,
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  posting 158% growth in IoT revenue, primarily from shipping early biometric sensors.
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  So the top line, while objectively tiny, it provides real proof of concept.
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  They're transitioning out of
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  the laboratory and actually putting hardware into the hands of partners.
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  OK, but the narrative shifts quite sharply when we move down the income statement,
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  because despite that nearly 900 percent revenue growth, their gross margins actually compressed,
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  falling from 33.4 percent in 2024 to 20.3 percent in 2025. Yeah, that's a steep drop.
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  And the net loss like the actual money bleeding out of the company.
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  Widened drastically from a $2 million deficit to a $5.4 million deficit.
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  It's kind of like a restaurant that finally sold its first 100 meals,
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  but to fulfill them, they had to
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  buy a massive commercial oven and hire an executive chef and a legal team.
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  The sales are flowing, but the bank account is definitely down.
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  Well, the margin compression is largely a byproduct of their product mix.
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  Selling heavy, complex prototyping equipment like the DLW, that naturally carries
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  lower gross margins than selling, say,
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  individual sensors or software licenses, the equipment basically gets their
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  foot in the door and the recurring high march in revenue theoretically comes later.
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  Okay. And what about that $5.4 million net loss? I mean, a burn rate like that
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  on less than a million in revenue is a pretty tough pill for retail investors to swallow.
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  It is, but we have to isolate the operational burn from the one-off structural costs.
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  So $2.4 million of that deficit was directly tied to their IPO on the SGX Catalyst
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  board in September, plus the subsequent placement.
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  Oh, right. Going public is notoriously expensive.
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  Incredibly expensive. Furthermore, they proactively increased their R&D spending
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  by $1.8 million to accelerate their AI and visible light development.
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  If you strip out those one-off IPO expenses, the core operational net loss sits
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  closer to a much more manageable 3.0 million.
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  Which changes the context slightly. I mean, a $3 million burn for a hardware
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  startup aggressively pushing R&D is a much more standard profile.
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  And looking at the balance sheet, they seem fairly well capitalized to absorb that near-term hit.
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  They are. The silver lining of those heavy IPO expenses is that the public lifting,
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  combined with a 4.85 million placement they did in December 2025,
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  left them with a very healthy balance sheet.
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  They're currently sitting on $8.8 million in cash. Okay.
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  So they have secured the runway needed to execute this next phase of development
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  without facing an immediate liquidity crisis.
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  Which brings us to arguably the most complex part of this report, the valuation.
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  If you are listening to this right now and pulling up their financial metrics
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  on your phone, you might experience a minor shock at this next figure.
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  MedOptics is currently trading at a projected 2026 price-to-sales ratio of 55 times. Right.
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  So for anyone unfamiliar with that jargon, price to sales or P sales,
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  is the metric analysts use when a company isn't profitable yet,
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  which makes traditional earnings multiples kind of useless. It just divides
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  the total market value of the company by its expected revenue. Right.
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  So a 55x multiple means investors are willingly paying $55 for every single
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  dollar of revenue this company is projected to generate next year.
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  To ground that in reality, the report points out that established legacy optical
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  companies, we're talking giants like Canon, Nikon, or Sunny Optical,
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  they trade at an average piecil's multiple of just 2.4x.
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  Yeah, quite the difference. So MetaOptics is carrying an astronomical premium.
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  Even high-flying software startups rarely sustain a 55x multiple.
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  So why in the world is the market tolerating this for a hardware manufacturer?
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  Because the market isn't viewing them as a traditional hardware manufacturer.
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  They are being priced purely as an early-stage deep tech disruptor.
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  When an investor buys at a 55x multiple, they're entirely discounting the present reality.
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  They're paying for technology validation and future scalability.
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  They are betting that the 12-inch wafer manufacturing scales perfectly,
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  that the visible light physics are conquered, and that meta-optics basically
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  becomes the foundational patent holder for the next generation of optical devices.
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  They're pressing in the assumption that the revenue goes from under a million
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  to hundreds of millions in just a matter of a few years. It's a wildly aggressive
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  bet on the adoption curve.
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  It is, but the macroeconomic tailwind supports that aggression,
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  at least theoretically.
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  The UOB report projects that the global optical medallions market will grow
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  at a massive compound annual growth rate, a CG of nearly 75 percent between 2024 and 2029.
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  Wow. Yeah. We're looking at a sector expanding from basically a rounding error
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  today to a potential almost half billion dollar market by the end of the decade.
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  And that's driven by consumer electronics, AR, VR, and automotive sensors.
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  If meta-optics captures a meaningful slice of that 75% growth wave.
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  A 55x forward multiple might actually look pretty cheap in hindsight.
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  True, but the road to that hypothetical future is paved with the corpses of hardware startups.
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  I mean, high growth projections naturally bring severe, tangible risks.
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  So it's time to take off the rose-colored glasses for a minute.
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  If I'm an institutional investor reading this report, I see the cash,
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  I see the tech, but what are the structural threats that keep me awake at night?
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  Well, the primary threat, which plagues almost all deep tech hardware, is the adoption cycle.
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  MetaOptics isn't selling a new app. They are demanding a fundamental change
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  to the physical supply chains of massive electronics manufacturers.
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  The report explicitly warns that it can take more than 12 months for a client
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  just to validate, test, and adopt these new lenses into a product line.
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  Oh, that is the classic valley of death for hardware.
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  You know, you have a working prototype, but waiting for a giant like Apple or
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  Samsung to run it through a year of stress testing, only to potentially say
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  no at the end, that can bleed a startup dry.
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  The sales cycles are agonizingly slow, which leads directly to the second risk, the debt clock.
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  Yes, they have $8.8 million in cash today, but they also carry a $2.1 million
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  non-current liability owed to a strategic shareholder.
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  Now, that debt doesn't require immediate servicing, but repayments do begin in 2027.
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  Okay, so the runway has a hard stop. If those 12-month corporate sales cycles
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  keep slipping, and they're still burning $3 million a year when 2020 Kevin arrives,
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  that debt obligation suddenly becomes a massive liquidity threat.
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  Exactly. And what about their intellectual property? You can't command a 55x
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  premium without an ironclad moat around your tech. And that mode has a slight dependency.
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  So while MetaOptics is aggressively filing their own patents,
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  a significant portion of their foundational technology actually relies on intellectual
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  property licensed from ASTAR.
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  And ASTAR is the prominent Singaporean government research agency. Right.
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  And licensing from state research labs is incredibly common in Singapore's tech
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  ecosystem, but it does create a tether.
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  If those licensing agreements expire or face renegotiation, or if the relationship
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  just sours, it poses a severe operational risk.
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  Yeah, you essentially don't own the deed to the land your factory is built on. Exactly.
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  And the final risk mentioned in the report is key man risk, which feels almost
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  inevitable for a management team this lean.
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  Yeah, it's pretty concentrated. Highly concentrated.
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  The company's strategic direction leans heavily on their executive chairman,
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  Mark Thing, who provides that vital connectivity to the Taiwanese semiconductor
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  ecosystem, and their CEO, Eliushis Chua, who really drives the technical innovation.
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  In these highly specialized fields, losing either of those minds could just
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  paralyze their commercial momentum.
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  So, synthesizing everything we've dissected today, MetaOptics is a wildly ambitious,
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  newly listed deep tech play out of Singapore.
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  They are attempting to rewrite optical physics by printing flat nanoscale lenses
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  using advanced semiconductor manufacturing. They've proven they can build the necessary equipment.
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  They've generated initial revenue, notably partnering within that critical Taiwanese supply chain.
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  However, they are burning cash to fund intense R&D.
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  They face brutally slow corporate adoption cycles. and the public markets are
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  pricing them at a staggering 55x multiple that basically demands near-perfect
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  execution over the next three years.
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  It is the absolute definition of a high-risk, high-reward frontier investment.
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  It perfectly encapsulates the tension of the public markets trying to value hard science.
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  And, you know, before we conclude, I really want to step away from the balance
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  sheets for a second and think about the physical reality of this technology.
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  We started by discussing the camera bump on a phone, but the implications of
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  metal lenses go way beyond making a device slightly thinner.
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  Oh, absolutely. Form always follows function in industrial design.
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  If optical systems become virtually invisible and completely weightless and
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  flat, how does that fundamentally change the hardware of the next decade?
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  It totally removes the physical constraints we didn't even realize we were designing around. Exactly.
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  Think about smart glasses. The current hurdle is that they look like cumbersome
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  pieces of technology because they have to house traditional cameras. They're bulky.
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  Right. But with metal lenses, you could integrate complex AR sensors into frames
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  that look utterly indistinguishable from your standard reading glasses.
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  Or consider autonomous vehicles. Instead of bulky LIDAR and camera rays protruding
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  from the roof and bumpers, the sensors could be entirely flush,
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  just invisibly integrated right into the glass and the body panels. That's wild.
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  If meta-optics, or just the industry at large, actually scales this lithography
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  process, we aren't just looking at better pictures.
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  We're looking at a total hardware reset for how machines observe the world. A hardware reset.
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  Imagine looking back in 10 years and just laughing at the fact that we used
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  to carry around devices with these giant glass marbles protruding from the back.
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  It totally reframes how you look at every single camera you interact with.
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  And on that thought-provoking note, we have reached the end of today's Deep Dive.
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  This content is intended to serve strictly and only as an informational,
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  independent, objective summary of recent events and should in no way be interpreted,
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  construed, or relied upon by any party as inside information or financial advice. Thank you.