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The Parents Speak. Karmelo Anthony's Mother and Father Sit Down with Mimi Brown · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, It's me Me, and today is Friday, June twelfth,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to listen to part one of my
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  Speaker 1: interview with Carmelo Anthony's parents, Drew Anthony and Kayla Hayes.
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  Speaker 1: This interview was so hard to do. It was probably
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  Speaker 1: one of the hardest things I've ever had to do
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  Speaker 1: in my life. Listening to them less than I'd say,
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  Speaker 1: twelve hours after the verdicts came down, after the sentencing
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  Speaker 1: came down, watching them throughout the entire interview wait on
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  Speaker 1: the phone to ring so that they can hear from him,
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  Speaker 1: to know that he's okay. This situation is so tragic.
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  Speaker 1: As a mom myself of a twelve year old, I
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  Speaker 1: can't even imagine. You know, a lot of times they
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  Speaker 1: think you know once you reach a certain age seventeen
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  Speaker 1: this happened when Carmelo was seventeen, that you're an adult,
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  Speaker 1: or but listening to these two people describe their household
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  Speaker 1: and their family and their family dynamic, and their love
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  Speaker 1: and their bond and how they've been together since high
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  Speaker 1: school and watching him wipe her tears lets me know
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  Speaker 1: what kind of family he came from. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to know him to feel for this situation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to know their parents to feel for
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  Speaker 1: this situation. This case has been so polarizing, it has
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  Speaker 1: been so racially charged. I just think that we are
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  Speaker 1: forgetting at the center of this. In essence, two people
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  Speaker 1: lost their lives and it is just heartbreaking watch basically
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  Speaker 1: one side crucify a child, and I think that we
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  Speaker 1: need to all come together and just figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to help this family. So that is my take. That
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  Speaker 1: is this episode. I hope that you guys have some feedback.
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  Speaker 1: This episode was a really rough run emotionally watching them
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  Speaker 1: not sleep. I don't even think I slept the night
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  Speaker 1: before when I put myself in their position. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: here is part one. How are you guys holding up.
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  Speaker 2: Right now? We're in a nightmare. Doesn't feel real.
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  Speaker 3: We've been up all night, crying, praying, waiting for family
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  Speaker 3: to come in.
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  Speaker 2: We have some family who has made it.
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  Speaker 3: Were just writing now lost words, waiting for it him
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  Speaker 3: to give us a call as soon as spot.
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  Speaker 1: So you haven't heard from him just yet.
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  Speaker 2: We heard from yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He actually suffered from seizures, so we actually have to
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  Speaker 3: bring his medicine to the courthouse.
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  Speaker 2: So we went for them to give us instruction to
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  Speaker 2: get there.
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  Speaker 1: We know Carmelo from the courtroom, but but tell us
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  Speaker 1: who is he? What kind of person is he? What
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  Speaker 1: kind of son is he? At home?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 4: He is a wonderful son.
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  Speaker 2: He's a wonderful student.
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  Speaker 3: Three point three point seven GPA, work two jobs.
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  Speaker 4: He's sorry, baby, you're for cutting you off. He was
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  Speaker 4: actually taking online classes during all of this and still
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  Speaker 4: helped a great GPA going through this traumatic time.
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  Speaker 2: Hm he I mean he he was a kid.
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  Speaker 3: If I didn't said he was a captain's track team,
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  Speaker 3: football team. He was working two jobs. He he was.
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  Speaker 3: He actually saved the kid life that the mom he
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  Speaker 3: jumped in the pool, which and saved the kid life,
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  Speaker 3: which is amazing. I didn't know how great he was
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  Speaker 3: until this traged tragic.
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  Speaker 4: I want to ask some things to that. At home,
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  Speaker 4: he loves cooking, whether it's in the kitchen outside grilling.
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  Speaker 4: He makes the best habachi. He loves running routes and
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  Speaker 4: plans soccer with his younger brother, Kingston. He has a
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  Speaker 4: brother named Andrew. He's twelve. And Andrew is into doing
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  Speaker 4: sciences experiments, and Carmelo loved helping him with science experiments.
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  Speaker 4: He loves putting legos together with his girlfriend. He's just
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  Speaker 4: a lovable, sincere child.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like the world, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: going through this trial got an accurate description of who
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  Speaker 1: Carmelo really is.
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  Speaker 3: No, we've come to find out which we were before
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  Speaker 3: all this. We were a family that basically stay to ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: We were very close knitted. My wife's at home. She
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  Speaker 3: stayed at home. I was working, and we didn't know
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  Speaker 3: how cruel the world could be. They have his face
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  Speaker 3: plastered all over after he was one, while he still
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  Speaker 3: was a minor, and it was like it was everything
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  Speaker 3: was happening. We was getting threats. They docked us. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't I was so clueless and so involved in work.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know what docxing was. They put our
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  Speaker 3: address on line and so we had people coming to
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  Speaker 3: our home so we never had to leave with in
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  Speaker 3: our home like they had us in some type of
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  Speaker 3: like what is a protective thing whatever to get us,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to get to keep us safe with our
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  Speaker 3: other kids.
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  Speaker 2: The world.
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  Speaker 3: Right now, it sounds unbelievable the things that he accomplished.
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  Speaker 2: Before this tragic ass.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was really mess you up and as me
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  Speaker 3: being a father, I didn't realize like him saving a life,
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  Speaker 3: I just as as a father. I got caught up
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  Speaker 3: and Hey, that's what you're supposed to do. That's your expectation,
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  Speaker 3: you know, being a man. Hey, that's what we do.
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  Speaker 3: We move on, like him working. Hey, man, you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to have a job. I was trying to he was,
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  Speaker 3: you know how it is that young. It's like with
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  Speaker 3: your girl too much. Man, you need to get a job,
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  Speaker 3: get a higher So he's working, but I kept him
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  Speaker 3: busy too. And this whole situation is the reality of
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  Speaker 3: this is that somebody literally walked in his life. No,
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  Speaker 3: literally walked into his life. He did everything by the law.
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  Speaker 3: And look where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to that day, that day
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  Speaker 1: that that track me. Were you guys at the event
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  Speaker 1: at that track meet on April second, No.
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  Speaker 3: We were not.
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  Speaker 4: I was actually supposed to go to the track meet,
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  Speaker 4: but the weather was so bad. I just stay home.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, mother, don't come, Just just stay home. And now,
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  Speaker 4: looking back on everything, I wish I was there. I
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  Speaker 4: regret not being there for my child.
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  Speaker 1: When did you hear the news that there had been
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  Speaker 1: an incident that day?
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  Speaker 4: I received the email saying that there was an incident,
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  Speaker 4: no phone call, no anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, My instinct was instinct.
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  Speaker 4: Because Cormelo, he's the type of child to let me
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  Speaker 4: know everything is going on, and it wasn't like him
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  Speaker 4: to not call me and tell.
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  Speaker 2: Me what was going on.
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  Speaker 4: So when I received the email, we have Life three sixty,
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  Speaker 4: so I went into Life three sixty. I'm like, wait,
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  Speaker 4: they said the buses made it back to the school,
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  Speaker 4: but Carmelo location is still stating that he's at the stadium,
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  Speaker 4: Like what's going on? So I headed to the school
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  Speaker 4: and that's how I found out what happened.
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  Speaker 2: How I found out.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually in a work meeting, and when she
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  Speaker 3: first called him, I thought it was because it was
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  Speaker 3: right after EPI fools. I was like, oh, y'all playing
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  Speaker 3: this because he doesn't. He doesn't, this is not him.
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  Speaker 2: So I was on a he's playing all right whatever,
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  Speaker 2: But she was like, no, he was involved in the status.
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  Speaker 3: So when we heard that, I didn't know what happened
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  Speaker 3: at the time, and they kept us like they kept
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  Speaker 3: us from everything like they kept us, so we running around.
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  Speaker 2: From place to place, place to place. Everything was just
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  Speaker 2: moving so fast. That day. I'll never forget that. It
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  Speaker 2: was just like everything.
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  Speaker 3: Then once we found out and got he went to
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  Speaker 3: his buying him and the next day somebody doctor us
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  Speaker 3: making it. I don't want to say that name, but
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  Speaker 3: a lady put started making this. They tried to blame
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  Speaker 3: it on one person not making them about raised.
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  Speaker 2: But you had this lady that went on to.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about white lives and all this other stuff and
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  Speaker 3: now went boom the race car started about. That's how
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  Speaker 3: Jay Lane and all these other guys got involved in this.
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  Speaker 3: But it was at the end of the day, this
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  Speaker 3: was a kid situation that a lot of adults made
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  Speaker 3: about their personal well, how they really wanted to feel.
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  Speaker 3: This is the time they wanted to show this is
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  Speaker 3: how we really feel about y'all, and they used my stunt.
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  Speaker 2: For example, what.
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  Speaker 1: Did Carmelo tell you happened that day at the track meet?
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  Speaker 2: I mean he was sitting there seeing his friend.
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  Speaker 3: If you once you get the reports and everything, he
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  Speaker 3: was actually his girlfriend's cousin invited him to the tent.
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  Speaker 3: So when they invited him to the tent, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was just hey, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Such and such? It was raining. He sat there then
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  Speaker 2: that you know it.
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  Speaker 3: You had these two guys who approached him, even sending
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  Speaker 3: the video in court. It was like, I know y'all
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  Speaker 3: see this. I know y'all see this. And we got
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  Speaker 3: comfortable with the instructions that were told. We was told
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  Speaker 3: not to say nothing, we was told not to do this.
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  Speaker 3: So we did everything.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 3: We followed all instructions, and we were told, hey, don't
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  Speaker 3: do this, don't do this, don't do this, don't do this. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: don't talk to this person, don't talk to this person.
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  Speaker 3: It was all this and look what happened to my son.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you wish you had talked more, that
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  Speaker 1: you had said more, that you had got your story
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  Speaker 1: out more.
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  Speaker 3: I called myself trying. Sometimes you could do the right thing,
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  Speaker 3: but could be the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 1: Did Carmelo want to get his story out more to
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  Speaker 1: the public as well?
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  Speaker 2: He was trying to listen to what he was being advised.
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  Speaker 3: You know, hey, don't make it up out rage, don't
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  Speaker 3: do this, don't do this. So we were like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: well go again. We played the game they wanted. We
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  Speaker 3: did everything a lot about it.
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  Speaker 2: Citizen posted. They told us, don't do this.
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  Speaker 3: We did with everything were supposed to, and he wanted people.
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  Speaker 2: You know, of course you want somebody.
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  Speaker 3: They got pictures of him being seventeen on would address
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  Speaker 3: some saying he's gonna be raped in jail like all
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  Speaker 3: kind of these adults. Adults are talking about this child,
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  Speaker 3: but nobody's seeing it. Like nobody's seeing it, so we
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  Speaker 3: can't say anything. The other family, they go paint this lie.
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  Speaker 3: That's nobody still up exposed that he died in his
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  Speaker 3: brother arms and it was.
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  Speaker 1: Not true, because that is the narrative.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, you never heard it. No more that what
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  Speaker 3: the stuff was a lie? You heard about a bag.
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  Speaker 3: You never heard about a bag, sincerid that's I was
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  Speaker 3: telling people. A lot is temporary, but the truth lasts forever.
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  Speaker 3: It's just now it's like hardy, Now I gotta fight
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  Speaker 3: to get the truth out where now we had He
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  Speaker 3: basically had to get the book thrown at him thirty
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  Speaker 3: five years And it's County that basically honestly feel as
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  Speaker 3: though that they.
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  Speaker 2: Manipulate us with a smile. They act as if they cared,
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  Speaker 2: but they really didn't.
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  Speaker 3: When they win the jurors selection, we're seeing all the
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  Speaker 3: people with the juris selection we were, I was like, baby,
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  Speaker 3: it's not right. But my wife is the type of
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  Speaker 3: person we'll I'm not gonna just say we're both the
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  Speaker 3: type we try to be positive. Hey, then we're not
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  Speaker 3: gonna look at it. That's not that's not what it is.
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  Speaker 3: That's not us, that's what it was.
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