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Understandest Thou, What Thou Readest · Apostle Lazarus Femi

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  Speaker 1: Apostle Fermi Lazarus is a man raised by God to
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  Speaker 1: demonstrate his wisdom and authority to the last day church.
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  Speaker 1: He is the lead pastor of Sphere of Light Church
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  Speaker 1: and God told him years ago that a time will
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  Speaker 1: come where my wisdom will be needed to navigate tough
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  Speaker 1: times in the body of Christ. Then I will cause
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  Speaker 1: your voice to be heard. And all who pay attention
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  Speaker 1: to my word on your lips will not lack light
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  Speaker 1: and direction. He is a man sent from God, sent
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  Speaker 1: to raise God's end time armies. With Apostle Fermi Lazarus,
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  Speaker 1: every minute counts as you listen attentively.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be very intentional as we bless him this morning.
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  Speaker 2: The Father will give you praise. Go ahead, lift your
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  Speaker 2: voice and be intentional about it. Be intentional about it.
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  Speaker 2: Be intentional about it and give Him praise. Oh, we
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  Speaker 2: bless you, Jesus. We bless you, Holy Name. Oh, we
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  Speaker 2: bless you, Jesus. We thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We honor you.
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  Speaker 2: For the great work you're doing instead of like church,
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  Speaker 2: the heart of your people.
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  Speaker 3: We're grateful. In the name of Jesus, we give you praise, Lord. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: we thank you.
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  Speaker 2: For Spirit of Light Church Lagos, for Spirit of Light
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  Speaker 2: Church Ife, for Spirit of Light Church Ibadan, and for
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  Speaker 2: Spirit of Light Church Abuja, I'm grateful. We bless you Father.
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  Speaker 2: In Jesus' mighty name, we are praying. Say that Amen
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  Speaker 2: again loud and clear.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, please be seated. I'm going to teach not so
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  Speaker 2: briefly because there might be more need to stay on
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  Speaker 2: this subject for a while, depending on how the Holy
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  Speaker 2: Spirit helps us. These are a year of mastery in
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  Speaker 2: Self-Life Church. And the implication of that is that it
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  Speaker 2: is that year that will come into accuracy.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Now Paul speaking says, I do not fight as one
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  Speaker 2: that is beating the hair. Another translation says as one
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  Speaker 2: that is shadow boxing. So mastery suggests that we have
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  Speaker 2: true revelation.
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  Speaker 3: Of God's word. Known what to do. By the spirit. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Let me lay a quick foundation. Now one of the.
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  Speaker 2: Things that I'm a very strong advocate for. Is the
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  Speaker 2: efficacy of the word. You see if the word of
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  Speaker 2: God is true. And it is God who said it.
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  Speaker 2: It can be trusted again and again. And results should
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  Speaker 2: not be something that is coincidental. It should be predictable.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Meaning that if you understand revelation, if you have revelation,
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  Speaker 2: you have the word, as touching the working of miracles.
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  Speaker 2: Miracles should not happen once in a while. It should
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  Speaker 2: happen again and again. Do I have an amen to that?
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  Speaker 2: Meaning if you have a word about prosperity, prosperity should
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  Speaker 2: not be a function of chance.
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  Speaker 3: Even in the midst of drought, the Word should be
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  Speaker 3: able to produce the result. Alright?
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  Speaker 2: If the Word of God is the Word of God,
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  Speaker 2: it functions regardless of environment. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 2: things I'm a stronger advocate for. Because again and again
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  Speaker 2: I've seen Christians fight as one beating the hair. Not
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  Speaker 2: knowing what to do specifically to get the result they
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  Speaker 2: should get. And And because we've not been able to
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  Speaker 2: duplicate the result again and again, we've become a tool
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  Speaker 2: of mockery in the hands of the devil.
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  Speaker 3: Amen?
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  Speaker 2: We've become a tool of mockery in the hands of
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  Speaker 2: the devil. I was speaking with a friend recently, I
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  Speaker 2: think some two days ago, and we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: ministers that raised the dead. And It pointed my attention to,
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  Speaker 2: of course, I know about Smith Wigglesworth, who would take
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  Speaker 2: dead bodies and slam the bodies against the wall. But
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  Speaker 2: slaps and many things. So we watched a video together
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube of an Indian man that died. And a
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  Speaker 2: set of ministers rose the man from the dead. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what I discovered in that video was that the way
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  Speaker 2: they ministered to the man who had died... is not
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  Speaker 2: in manner of maybe you should wake up. It is
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  Speaker 2: with absolute revelation that this fellow is coming back. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: with slaps, are you following what I'm saying? And a
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  Speaker 2: lot of jackings and all that, that this fellow is
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  Speaker 2: coming back to life.
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  Speaker 3: And the fellow came back to life.
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  Speaker 2: Now that is how well the word can be trusted
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  Speaker 2: if you have found it.
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  Speaker 3: Are you following what I'm saying here?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to teach you On the subject, understandest
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  Speaker 2: thou what thou readest? Understandest thou what thou readest? Understandest
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  Speaker 2: thou what thou readest? And the aim of this teaching
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  Speaker 2: is to bring believers out of the realm where they
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  Speaker 2: use shadow box. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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  Speaker 2: but a place of absolute revelation of scriptures. Absolute revelation
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  Speaker 2: of scriptures. Can I have, quickly, Proverbs chapter number 24.
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  Speaker 2: I'll write from verse 1. Proverbs 24 from verse 1.
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  Speaker 3: Quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Proverbs 24 from verse 1. Now, Paul speaking, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to read from verse 2 before I go principally into
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  Speaker 2: the subject and teaching. Proverbs 24. Now, let's start reading
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  Speaker 2: from verse 3. It says, True wisdom is a house built,
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  Speaker 2: and by understanding it is what?
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  Speaker 3: Established.
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  Speaker 2: So, if we're going to get believers established, if we're
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  Speaker 2: going to get believers standing and enduring the tribulations that
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  Speaker 2: is to come, if we're going to get believers standing
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  Speaker 2: and and lasting, it means that we must get them
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  Speaker 2: to understand. And there are many people in church who
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  Speaker 2: hear messages but don't understand. And they begin to manifest
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  Speaker 2: certain traits and characters that can bring disappointment. Because knowledge
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  Speaker 2: is not a sign of understanding necessarily. Are you following
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying here? Do you understand what I'm saying? Listen,
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  Speaker 2: you may know something. But your mind can be changed
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  Speaker 2: on what you know by a greater level of conviction.
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  Speaker 2: But when you understand it, you know the in and out.
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  Speaker 2: Do you hear what I'm saying here? Nobody can convince
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  Speaker 2: you against what you understand.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the issue is this.
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  Speaker 2: When you know it, tribulations may take it from you.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot say nothing can separate us from the love
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  Speaker 2: of Christ until you are established through understanding. A lot
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  Speaker 2: can separate you from Jesus if you are not established
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  Speaker 2: through what?
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  Speaker 3: Understanding. Do you get what I'm saying? Listen though.
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  Speaker 2: Because that you repeat what Paul said doesn't mean you
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  Speaker 2: have the same experience. It was Paul who said nothing
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  Speaker 2: shall separate us from the love of Christ. The man
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  Speaker 2: speaking was a man who had gone deep in certain knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? The route to that
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  Speaker 2: is that you are not just taught Bible.
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  Speaker 3: You are made to understand.
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  Speaker 2: The way for that to happen is that the Holy
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  Speaker 2: Spirit will have to brood on your heart. And it
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  Speaker 2: has to be consistent reading. And I know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm sharing this, why you need
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  Speaker 2: to understand this. Alright, this is Walker's meeting. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give a few warnings. But listen, give me this scripture.
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  Speaker 2: 1 Timothy chapter number 4. 1 Timothy chapter number 4.
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  Speaker 2: Now we start the reading from verse 1. 1 Timothy
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  Speaker 2: 4 from verse 1. 1 Timothy 4 from verse 1.
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  Speaker 3: Now look at it. It says, Now the Spirit speaketh expressly.
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  Speaker 2: That in the latter times some shall depart from the faith.
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  Speaker 3: Are you seeing that now?
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  Speaker 2: Giving heed to seducing spirit and doctrine of devil, speaking
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  Speaker 2: lies and hypocrisy, and having their conscience said without iron,
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  Speaker 2: forbidding to marry and commanding To abstain from meat which
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  Speaker 2: God has created to be received with thanksgiving. Of them
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  Speaker 2: which believe and know the truth. For every creature of
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  Speaker 2: God is good and not to be refused. It should
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  Speaker 2: be received with thanksgiving. For it is sanctified with the
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  Speaker 2: word of God and prayer. Now look at this. It
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  Speaker 2: says that some shall depart from the faith. Some shall
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  Speaker 2: leave the faith. Some will leave the faith. If they
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  Speaker 2: were not a part of the faith, they would not
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  Speaker 2: leave the faith. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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  Speaker 2: So it means that we're in a season that more
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  Speaker 2: than ever before we are going to see if care
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  Speaker 2: is not taken. And I'm speaking this as one that
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  Speaker 2: God has given a word, not just for sphere of
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  Speaker 2: light church, but for the body of Christ.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to see increase.
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  Speaker 2: In level of disappointment from believers you don't expect to disappoint.
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  Speaker 2: Because you have rated them based on church appearance. You
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  Speaker 2: don't know how deep they are. Are you following what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying here? One of the things that will happen
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  Speaker 2: in the last days is that many believers will disappoint.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you say, this brother, this brother is this,
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  Speaker 2: this brother is among the pastoral league in church. This brother,
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  Speaker 2: we used to think this, this brother talks in his shirt,
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  Speaker 2: wear style, wear suit, comes to church. You have one-on-one
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  Speaker 2: conversation with him, you discover, he is not who I
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  Speaker 2: thought he was. Because you have rated the person based
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  Speaker 2: on appearance. Are you following what I'm saying here?
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes you talk with people, you feel they are deep,
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  Speaker 3: they are deep, but they lead to wind. They are off.
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  Speaker 3: Something has happened. Oh, this, this, this. Tribulation has come.
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  Speaker 2: When Jesus was giving description about a wise man, he
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  Speaker 2: said he built his house on the rock. When they
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  Speaker 2: talk about the foolish man, the foolish man is also
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  Speaker 2: a builder.
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  Speaker 3: And he may build a house that is finer. But
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  Speaker 3: just that the foundation where he built it is on
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  Speaker 3: the sand and the storm.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody prays for Aaron. Good things will check you out.
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? What you don't know
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  Speaker 2: is that a good thing is a problem to a
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  Speaker 2: believer who is not established.
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  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying? Let me explain. There
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  Speaker 3: is a boy pursuing a girl.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to marry the girl. Sometimes relationship Ah babe
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  Speaker 2: how you doing I've missed you You get what I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying He's following the girl Good morning he wakes up
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  Speaker 2: with a call in the morning Just to hear your
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  Speaker 2: voice this morning Have you done that before You look
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  Speaker 2: like one who has done it Just to hear your
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  Speaker 2: voice this morning How you doing and all that Yeah
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  Speaker 2: Oh yes Have you done it before Okay And the
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  Speaker 2: girl says, oh, so good to hear your own voice.
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  Speaker 2: You see, and that goes on. The I miss you
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  Speaker 2: text messages. The have you eaten text messages. The can
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  Speaker 2: we hang out this evening text messages. And sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: girl will have the best of the guy. Auntie, she says, yes.
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  Speaker 3: You see.
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  Speaker 2: The moment she says yes, he stops pursuing. Because he
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  Speaker 2: feels this is in the bag. And naturally, that's the
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  Speaker 2: way a man is wired. Every man has tended, a
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  Speaker 2: man is a goal getter. When he gets something, he
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  Speaker 2: goes for another goal.
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  Speaker 3: You see. And that's why if you ask.
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  Speaker 2: Eight out of ten women must have told their husbands,
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  Speaker 2: Ten over ten. Must have told their husband at least
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  Speaker 2: once or twice that you don't love me again.
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  Speaker 3: Why? He has stopped pursuing. What came? Rain. That's not storm.
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  Speaker 3: Good thing that happened. Marriage.
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  Speaker 2: Isaiah 5.10 says that as the rain and the snow
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  Speaker 2: will not return back to heaven, but that it makes
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  Speaker 2: the earth bring forth blood and flourish, that it may
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  Speaker 2: give seed to the sower and bread to the eater.
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  Speaker 3: So shall my word be, that great.
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  Speaker 2: For that of my mouth shall God will prosper in
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  Speaker 2: the purpose for which he sent. He hath not returned
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  Speaker 2: back to me void. Now that's the description of what
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  Speaker 2: the word is.
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  Speaker 3: It is like a rain. When rain falls, it brings seed.
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  Speaker 3: It brings fruit. Are you following what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? What I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: tell you is that God may have the best of
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  Speaker 2: you before he blesses you. And you will not know.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes people are asking God, give me this, give me this.
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  Speaker 2: He's withholding it for His mercies and just forever. Because
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  Speaker 2: you must.
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  Speaker 3: Understand, God is good.
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  Speaker 2: The goodness of God is not that what God has
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  Speaker 2: done looks good to you.
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  Speaker 3: The goodness of God is that in view of eternity,
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  Speaker 3: it is good. Do you understand what I'm saying? You
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  Speaker 3: don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: It means that sometimes the way for God to extend
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  Speaker 2: His goodness is to not allow certain rainfall in your
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  Speaker 2: direction because your house is on the sand. Do you
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  Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? That's the way it's being good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh God, God, God, this year is the year I
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  Speaker 3: must break through to America.
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  Speaker 2: God says if you go to America this year, you
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  Speaker 2: will become a polygamous man. I saw something one of
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  Speaker 2: our pastors wrote. Pastor Wally wrote this. I said this
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  Speaker 2: is very deep. He said when Gehazi was running to meet,
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  Speaker 2: what's that guy's name again?
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  Speaker 3: Naaman. Naaman.
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  Speaker 2: If his journey had been slow, he would think he
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  Speaker 2: has problem. Let me read what he wrote because that
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  Speaker 2: thing is too deep. You need to hear it yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Not too many things get my attention.
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  Speaker 3: But when I see stuff. Alright, look at it.
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  Speaker 2: He said, if Gehazi had run after Naaman but missed him,
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  Speaker 2: he would have felt unblessed. Do you understand that? If
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  Speaker 2: when Gehazi was running after Naaman, if he had missed Naaman,
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  Speaker 2: he would have felt unblessed.
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  Speaker 3: But he caught up and felt blessed. While in the
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  Speaker 3: real sense, it was an accursed endeavor. You understand what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Meaning that there are things that you must not succeed at.
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  Speaker 2: It will be a success that people will clap for you,
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  Speaker 2: but you have actually failed. Let me tell you, let
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  Speaker 2: me tell you this. If you don't understand this thing,
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  Speaker 2: you are going to live a competitive life.
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  Speaker 3: You will. And you will not know.
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  Speaker 2: One of the manifestations of competitive life is envy. You
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  Speaker 2: will not be able to stand God doing something for
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  Speaker 2: your neighbor without doing it for you. Do you understand
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Because there are things you are saying
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  Speaker 2: God has not done, and you are asking for deliverance. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: you are saying, God, deliver me from your blessing. Because
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  Speaker 2: at that stage of your life, its definition of blessing
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  Speaker 2: is that you don't achieve it. If you get what
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  Speaker 2: you want, will you want.
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  Speaker 3: What you get? Are you following what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? Let me tell you
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  Speaker 2: something now. Because you don't understand. How many of you
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  Speaker 2: have seen online? Somebody married a man. They have misunderstanding.
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  Speaker 2: The man stabbed the woman to death.
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  Speaker 3: You've seen that a lot. Recently, it's been women stabbing husband.
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  Speaker 3: Be careful.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy I will just tell you once all of
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  Speaker 2: you that are looking at me like this be careful
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  Speaker 2: be careful there is none of you here that is
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  Speaker 2: married be careful meanwhile if when they were asking that
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  Speaker 2: man that if when the guy was asking the girl
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  Speaker 2: how that we kill him if the girl had said
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  Speaker 2: no he might have cried Meanwhile, somewhere along the line,
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  Speaker 2: this fellow will take his life. Do you understand what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying? Be careful of how you judge God. He's
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  Speaker 2: not your mate. He doesn't see as you see. There
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  Speaker 2: are things you cry you have lost. Is it really
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  Speaker 2: a loss? There are relationships that are left to life
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  Speaker 2: that is not a loss.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you understand
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying? Because.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't understand this, it's going to cost you
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  Speaker 2: a lot. But that's not where I'm going. This is
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  Speaker 2: a foundation I'm laying. And this is where I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm teaching you on the subject, understandest thou what
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  Speaker 2: thou readest. The purpose of understanding is to root you.
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  Speaker 3: Let me say this though.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not carried, I can't be carried away by how
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  Speaker 2: deep anybody sounds. A man of understanding may not have
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  Speaker 2: all turns. But he will last. There are people who
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  Speaker 2: are already tossed. They are like chaffs before the wind.
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  Speaker 2: Do you hear what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: So I don't inherit men by how deep they sound.
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  Speaker 3: It's that guy. It's that guy.
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  Speaker 2: It's deep. Do you follow what I'm saying? There's a
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  Speaker 2: boy that used to come after one of my daughters like.
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  Speaker 3: That. Kaka shoot everything. Speak in English. This proposal.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke to boy once or twice. I said, God,
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  Speaker 2: if you are still God, deliver this.
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  Speaker 3: Girl from him.
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  Speaker 2: Fine speech, but shallow young man. And most times, it
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  Speaker 2: is dangerous when you are loud and stupid.
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  Speaker 3: It is wrong advertisement. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: The Bible says, even if a fool keeps quiet, people
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  Speaker 3: will think he's wise.
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  Speaker 2: So if you are not sure whether you are wise
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  Speaker 2: or foolish in a matter, silence is the neutral ground.
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  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying? You don't understand. See,
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  Speaker 3: let me say this to you. It is not everything
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  Speaker 3: you give voice to. It is not everything. But be careful.
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  Speaker 2: If you build your esteem on agreement of people, be careful.
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  Speaker 2: You will agree with wrong things.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just leave it there.
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  Speaker 2: Particularly those of you who use social media, in a year,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I like more than, less, my wife knows, maybe
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  Speaker 2: less than, in an entire year, far less than 30
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  Speaker 2: posts or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't just... Because first....
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  Speaker 2: You see, a little journey in this body has shown
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  Speaker 2: me that it might be the truth, but we need
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  Speaker 2: to know who is talking.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Are you aware that the truth can be dangerous depending
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  Speaker 2: on who is using it?
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  Speaker 3: Do you get what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: What you have said may be a statement of fact,
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  Speaker 2: but we need to know who you are at war
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  Speaker 2: with and who you are sending the message to.
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  Speaker 3: So I will not partner with you in sin. You've
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  Speaker 3: not seen things.
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  Speaker 2: So at certain level The truth is not just the
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  Speaker 2: truth We need to know the speaker We need to
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  Speaker 2: know the depth it is coming from So you see
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  Speaker 2: that as you mature One of the characteristics you will
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  Speaker 2: have Is decorum Because you are seeing things From a
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  Speaker 2: different lens Are you following what I'm saying here? Are
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you following what I'm saying here? Now I want to
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  Speaker 2: show you a scripture, and I mean, I've been laughing
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  Speaker 2: since 3 a.m. I've been on this, and it's been amazing. Because,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I could just see a lot of experience
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  Speaker 2: in university days, pastoring on campus, and everything.
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  Speaker 3: In this scripture. Now, let's look at it.
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  Speaker 2: When you hear that topic, understand this, that word that
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  Speaker 2: we read this, you know it is out of the Apostles.
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  Speaker 3: Chapter number 8. And let me say this to you.
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  Speaker 2: We had the privilege of being raised from a Bible-teaching
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  Speaker 2: and Bible-believing church where we were taught the word.
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  Speaker 3: Cover to cover. Amen? And one of the disciplines of.
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  Speaker 2: The church is that whenever a chapter of the Bible
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  Speaker 2: is opened, you must have an idea of what is
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  Speaker 2: in it, even if you can't quote it.
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  Speaker 3: That is how much you must have eaten the word.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? Now look at Acts 8.
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  Speaker 2: The Holy Ghost speaking to Philip. Act 8 is a
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  Speaker 2: very robust scripture because a revival had just broken out.
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  Speaker 3: Now look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Act of the Apostles chapter number 8. Let's start the
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  Speaker 2: reading from verse 26. Act 8 from verse 26. And
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  Speaker 2: the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise,
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  Speaker 2: go towards the south, unto the way that goeth down
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  Speaker 2: from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.
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  Speaker 3: And he arose and went, and behold, a man of Utopia, an.
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  Speaker 2: Eunuch of great authority under the candance of queen of Utopians,
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  Speaker 2: who had the child of all her treasure, and had
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  Speaker 2: come to Jerusalem for to worship. while he was returning,
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  Speaker 2: he sat, he was sitting on his chariot, he was
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  Speaker 2: reading Isaiah the prophet.
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Then the spirit said unto Philip, go near and join
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  Speaker 2: yourself to his chariot.
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  Speaker 3: 30 now.
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  Speaker 2: And Philip ran to him and heard him read the
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  Speaker 2: prophet Isaiah and said, understandest thou what thou readest?
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  Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is a very interesting one. This is by
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  Speaker 2: the finger of God. Philip was actually coming from what
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  Speaker 2: would be described as a powerful revival. And the Holy
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  Speaker 2: Ghost said to him, go and turn towards that way
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  Speaker 2: that goes towards Gaza. Because a man is going to
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  Speaker 2: pass there. Now imagine the Holy Ghost said to you,
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  Speaker 2: a man is going to pass. And then he said,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I want you to go to some place, so just
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  Speaker 2: go there. And then you say somebody is going to pass.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: The legalist says, join yourself with the person. You saw
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  Speaker 2: the person. Ah, as you met the person, the person
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is reading Bible. What will likely be your response? Wow,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know that we are the same. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't even know that you are my brother in the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: No wonder the legalist let me. You see, you have
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  Speaker 2: shut the mouth of God. You didn't know why he
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  Speaker 2: sent you there. You just saw something he's doing on
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  Speaker 2: face value.
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  Speaker 3: You start talking. I didn't even know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go say that. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: met a covenant friend. But Philip said, do you understand
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  Speaker 2: what you are reading? So people can be reading Bible.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the response of the man.
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  Speaker 3: Verse 31.
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  Speaker 2: Verse 31, quickly. Acts 8, 31. And he said, how
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  Speaker 2: can I?
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  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Understandest thou? He said, how can I?
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  Speaker 2: Are you saying that the Holy Ghost may actually point
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  Speaker 2: you to his sister?
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  Speaker 3: I'm just coming around. Actually, I'm hosting some prayer meeting.
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  Speaker 2: Say, ah, that's it. God has been speaking. Meanwhile, there's
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  Speaker 2: a mentee. This fellow is struggling with growth, struggling with prayer.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, no wonder.
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  Speaker 2: I knew when God kept me awake at night. The
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  Speaker 2: guy said, how can I? Unless someone guides me. And
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: he asked Philip to come up and sit with him.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: The issue is that you begin with hearing God. You
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: end with you speaking. That's why you land in trouble.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: But why did Philip, that's the question. I mean, because,
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  Speaker 2: do you understand what I'm saying? Why do you see somebody,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: because this scene, I want to say this again. Not
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: everybody in church understands. Let me show you now. I
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  Speaker 2: will share with my wife. Something happened recently. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: most of you must have seen it. A young man
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  Speaker 2: from this same Abuja. You saw the story that got
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: up recently and said, so-and-so pastor, refund back my tithe.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: He said, you said it's heavenly investment. I'm not interested
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: in heaven again. How many of you saw that video?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: You didn't see it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay. It went to Shara Reporters. You know Nigeria. There
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  Speaker 3: are people who are excited when topics like this comes out. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God. I... Unless God raise ministries.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Of men who bring preservation to what we call revival,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: there will be trouble. I'm going to show you. Because
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'm going to teach this now. I'm going to find
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a way to now spread it. So you can understand.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? This guy, he said, pastor,
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  Speaker 2: I want to give him back my tithe. Give him
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  Speaker 2: back everything. He said, I'm not interested in everyone again.
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  Speaker 2: When I look at that, I look at it with
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  Speaker 2: my heart grieving.
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  Speaker 3: I say, my God, I think David was one with me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is this? I was asking, are you hearing what
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: this guy is saying? He said, he heard.
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  Speaker 2: I went further and investigated and searched out the guy online. Now,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: something touched my heart when the guy was talking. He said,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I went through membership class. He said, I went through
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: school of discipleship. I went through ministry school. Do you
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? He said I went through membership
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: class in this church. I went through school of discipleship.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I went through school of ministry. He brought out the certificate.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: But yet he did not understand. We are satisfying people.
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  Speaker 3: For what they don't understand.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Because understanding goes beyond passing to get certificate. Understanding goes
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: beyond starting in church... And then now you've been promoted
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: from being a worker to become a minister. You can
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: have a minister who does not have understanding about Jesus.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: And please be careful. Because you may marry a guy
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: because he's hot. If he's not God, the guy can
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: become an abbalist tomorrow. In fact, I know a guy
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: now who is an abbalist who used to be a pastor.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling you something that I heard. This guy
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: is a practicing abbalist right now as we speak. But
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: he used to be a pastor. I won't mention the church.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Because what we have now, are you following what I'm saying?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Is that people come to church and say, when I
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: join Walker, and then I'm going to be coming frequently,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: then from there the church will promote me and then
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: they will start trusting me with some opening prayer and
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: some all those things.
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  Speaker 3: They don't understand.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And as we push people up, they are building career
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  Speaker 2: without a calling.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: More managers, no pastors. What do they manage?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Attendance, tithe, offering. The church is no longer engaged based
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: on transformation. You understand what I'm saying? It's a serious matter.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very serious matter.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when I look at such matter, I look
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  Speaker 3: at it with fear and trembling.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I was asking God, the people who are sitting today,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: who say they are listening, how can we really predict.
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  Speaker 3: That this is a man that will stand the test
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: of time. The Lord said, understand him.
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen people in church before that are ministers,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: they were doing everything every other person is doing.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Suddenly you discover that they were never part of the system.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying? Manifesting certain traits, manifesting
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: people come to church. Ah, ministers, ah, this, this, this.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Sit down.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: The Bible says they come as my people come. Look
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: at it now, Ezekiel 33. From verse 31. Ezekiel 33, 31.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm teaching you something very important here. Sometimes you
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: are surprised in a church.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: What is going on now? Worship is going on. One
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  Speaker 2: of the top sisters has gone to marry an imam.
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  Speaker 3: You are wondering. She did not understand. What? You are surprised. Ah, what? Worship.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: When this guy stretches his hand, power is moving. He
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: has impregnated two sisters. What's happening?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: They don't understand. Do you understand what I'm saying? I
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. I ask for a scripture.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Look at it now.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Ezekiel 33. Now give me this scripture in message translation.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Look at it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It says they show up as people tend to do.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They sit in your company. They listen to you speak.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: But they don't do a thing you say. They flatter
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  Speaker 2: you with compliments.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: You see, if you are going to lie as a pastor,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I bet you sincerely, people will give you seeds.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I said something very painful. You see, let
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  Speaker 3: me tell this to you.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you are someone who has worked with me for
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  Speaker 2: a while or you are in the spirit, you may
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: not understand my little steps and the things I do.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Are you following what I'm saying? In fact, there is
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: tendency for you to be offended, pro-max. I used to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: have a boy. All this nonsense people are doing. Body
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: of Christ. I used to have one of my boys.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Every Thursday or Wednesday. I would receive more than 50 messages.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: From the members of the ministry. You are our father.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: The one that God used to direct us. A message everywhere.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh daddy we hail you.
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  Speaker 3: That is. I said. Stop messaging me. I called him.
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  Speaker 3: Tell your people. to stop messaging me right away. It
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: is not honor.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: What honors me is that you hear my word and obey.
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  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And he says that people now know that the way
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to a pastor's heart is to go on Facebook and
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: mention him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: And say, ah, I want to celebrate my daddy, my this,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: my that. They paint everything.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: And because the man of God to his belief of esteem.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Now say yes. Now share. Share. That's my boy. You see,
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  Speaker 3: we have found a way to use charlatans and sycophants
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to build what is not.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: And people now know that one of the ways they
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: come with an envelope, sow seed, and then hail in
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: on his birthday.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, let me say this to you. For the
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: past three years, I don't read birthday messages. I'm sorry.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: I know you've taken your time to write many things.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: God honors it. If you ever see a reply, it
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: was not me. I have people that will sit with
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: them And reply for me. And just help me reply
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: everybody according to the works of their heart.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Are you seeing that?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So nobody will feel left. But that I will sit
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: down and say, oh wow, this fellow is saying yes.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: How God has used that post.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: It's not me. Because many of those things are lies.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: You really be honest that you don't like this man
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that you are describing like this. Because you don't really
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like a good leader from the start.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: It takes understanding. Just be honest.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I really don't like him. He's too hard on me.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: He's strict sometimes. I don't understand him.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Put it there. Let's know. Speak your mind. Be free.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I want to celebrate my papa in the Lord. Do
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you listen to him? No. Do you listen to his messages?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: If he instructs you now, will you obey? No. Do
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you follow him? No. Do you understand this thing? We
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: have built psycho fancy.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: And we have pastors have surrounded themselves with parish singers.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: And everybody is saying, oh we hail you, oh we
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: hail you, oh we hail you. The only thing they
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: are not hiding is Mosiah.
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  Speaker 3: Are you amazed?
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And listen, listen, particularly if you feel God is calling
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to do ministry now, be careful. Because there are people
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: who would have still been alive, even though they did ministry.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying? I know what I'm
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: saying though. I know what I'm saying. In fact, I'll
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: tell you something, I prefer insults to praises. It will
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: help me adjust. It will make me know I'm still
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: a man. And let me know I can be insulted.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That boy, he doesn't follow anything. Everybody is just ailing me.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I said, you are thanking me for the work I'm
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: not doing. Stop it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So I called him one day after a bulk of messages.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: And I said, from today you are no longer my son.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I release you. He was shocked.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Because he's never seen anybody reject what is good.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: What have I done wrong? I release you.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: It's psychophancy. And it's from the pit of hell. And
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: the moment I said that, he went and unfollowed me
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: on all social media.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I said, yes, that is it. I said, that is it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking for. Do you understand what we
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: are doing in church? Because you may not. You may not.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: And it's not about the number of years you've been
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: hanging around church. It's not about the position you are holding.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It's not even about whether you are the resident pastor
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: or not.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Let me share this with you. I'm not going to
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: go into the story. Let me just leave it as
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: what it is. But something happened. Let me just quote it,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: all right? I had a conversation with the pastor's wife
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: and all that.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: She went to tell the husband, I don't know, this person,
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the way he spoke to me.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: The Sunday morning when they.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Called altar call, pastor's wife was the first to come out.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She told the husband that four, I'm coming. about 22 years,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: as I then, of their marriage, she was still a
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: practicing Muslim.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: A pastor's wife.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And they will say they want to lay hands on
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: some people. They say, Pastor, Mommy Gio, come and lay hands.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Do you understand that you can be.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: In church, but you don't understand a thing?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Even Philip that was stuck in that scripture, actually, Philip
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: did not just say what he said. He had just
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: faced a disappointment. That's where he was coming from. Something
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: had happened where he was coming from. So he was
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: acting from that.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: Philip used to be different. If it was Philip's few
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: verses before that time, he would have just joined the
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: church and said, wow, I'm a man of God. Bless
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: me too.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Sheriff, teach me something. Some of these things are not humility.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: They are a sign you are a fool. Do you
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? Only a fool opens his mouth
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and talks anyhow.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, eat me with wrath.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: This person needs God. But now you are saying, let's
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: exchange what is on our head. And the head gets big,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: but the spirit is small. They can't resist anything. They
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: can't carry it. Just one little flash of lost, gone.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I'm teaching this because in the coming days, there are
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: trees who think are standing because they are green. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: just a little tap, they will fall off. We are
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: in that season where there is going to be a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: lot of falling away. Can a nation be born in
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: a day? But for Zion, as soon as she travels,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: she brings forth, the country is in a bed-pank season.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: And we are going to start seeing the report card
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: of the kind of men we have been raising. And
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: most times, report cards are ugly. I remember changing the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: results in GSS. One, I came 33rd. You wonder what
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: kind of school I had three children in the class.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: My school did. I came 33rd out of 36 or thereabouts.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I cancelled one three and left the remaining third I
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: used TPEX but what I did not do was to
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: flip it to the back and look at it so
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: my father just did just that and he saw two
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: threes he smiled I said go inside third you came
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: third red Bible red Bible you came third yes.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I went inside um I said, give him special food.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I heard. I can't forget. The following day, we were
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: in mathematics class. Then I looked towards the window, and
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: I heard a sound. That was my father's car. He
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: was parking.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Then he came down from the car, opened the back seat,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: and brought out what looked like a cane.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: I was coming, not smiling. I said, I'm finished. Immediately,
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I was cold. I was shaking. I don't like trouble.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: I was cold, I was shivering, I was sicking, I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: was sweating.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Then somebody came from staff room and said, they are
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: calling Lazarus. Then I saw my class teacher had the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: original one that the school had. And my father had
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: the one that changed.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: The 33rd thought.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: So he said to my teacher that, he's my son,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to discipline him here. Oh, all the teachers
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  Speaker 2: are begging. He's a good boy. We don't know why
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  Speaker 2: he has done this. I don't know this, this, this.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know this, this, this. I joined my father
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  Speaker 2: in begging the teachers. Let him flog me here. Please
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  Speaker 2: let him flog me here. Because they didn't allow. They said, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Going to change.
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  Speaker 2: You will not do this again. So as I got
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  Speaker 2: to the house, I said, I'm not going to enter
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  Speaker 2: this house. So I opened the door. I was going
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  Speaker 2: to throw my bag inside, then run.
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  Speaker 3: As I threw my bag, somebody held my hand. The
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  Speaker 3: rest is history. Amen. The rest is history.
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  Speaker 2: But we do certain things because we do not have understanding.
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  Speaker 2: And most of those things are the things that comes
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  Speaker 2: back to haunt our destinies. But let me show you
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: where Philip was coming from. Philip was not that kind
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  Speaker 2: of minister who was patient.
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  Speaker 3: Look at it now. There was a revival. Something had happened.
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  Speaker 2: Alright.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to that same.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the Apostles chapter number 8.
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  Speaker 3: Alright.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start the reading from verse. They are just really
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  Speaker 2: killing Stephen. One of the deacons appointed at the same
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  Speaker 2: time Philip was appointed. And most times when you persecute
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  Speaker 2: the church, a new level of revival breaks out.
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  Speaker 3: But that's a level. Hey, how do I help? It
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: is a level of maturity of the church that... Let
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  Speaker 3: me leave it, okay? We'll come there some other time.
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  Speaker 3: But look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Acts chapter number 8 from verse 4 now says, Therefore,
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  Speaker 2: so having killed Stephen, they've gone to bury him Therefore
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  Speaker 2: they were scattered abroad and went everywhere preaching the word.
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  Speaker 2: And Philip went down to the city of Samaria and
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  Speaker 2: he preached Christ to them. And the people, everyone with
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  Speaker 2: one accord, eat of the things which Philip spoke, hearing
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  Speaker 2: and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits,
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  Speaker 2: crying with loud voice, came out of many that were
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  Speaker 2: possessed with them.
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  Speaker 3: And many taken with palsies were lame.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: So many powerful things happened in that meeting and there
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  Speaker 2: was great joy in the city. Now verse 9 began
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  Speaker 2: to say But there was a certain man called Simon
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  Speaker 2: Which before time The same city In the same city
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  Speaker 2: used sorcery And bewitched the people of Samaria Giving out
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  Speaker 2: that himself Was some great one So he was pretending
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  Speaker 2: to be a prophet But he was using sorcery To
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  Speaker 2: whom they all gave heed From the least to the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: greatest He was in charge of the territory This man
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: They said this man is the great power of God
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  Speaker 2: To him they had regard because that long time he
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  Speaker 2: had bewitched them with sorceries.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: But when they believed Philip preaching.
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  Speaker 2: The things concerning the kingdom of God and the name
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: of Jesus Christ, they were baptized both men and women.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: So what Philip did was that they got born again,
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  Speaker 2: he baptized them by immersion. And Simon himself believed also.
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  Speaker 2: That's the sorcerer.
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  Speaker 3: He believed. You see, people can believe and not change. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: have you accepted Jesus?
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, he has accepted, but he has not changed. You see,
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  Speaker 2: salvation is the entry point. The idea is not for
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  Speaker 2: Jesus to come and.
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  Speaker 3: Be leaving an entry. The idea is for a work
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  Speaker 3: to be done within you and then through you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Okay? That's the idea.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: So he baptized, continued, and he baptized. You know, I mean,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the great sorcerer has been baptized.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow! Revival! Something powerful happened in Samaria today. Oh, wow!
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  Speaker 2: Great!
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow! He got baptized. He's a changed man now.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: If he was a singer, they give him mic, come
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: and start singing.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Now he's changed. He's no longer singing hip-hop. He's singing
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: for Jesus. We give people platform without training them. We
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: wonder why they fall off. Oh, he's a changed man now.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: He's a changed man now. He used to be a
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: pop singer. But now the changed man has impregnated eight
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  Speaker 2: girls in church. Because change is not necessarily understanding. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: people have not changed. They only change clothes. Still the
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  Speaker 2: same guy. If you wear a suit on a madman,
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  Speaker 2: shave his hair, and do everything, cream his body and
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: all that, he will look normal.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Right? Right?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Until you draw a car on the wall. And say
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: push it. And he will say I can't push it
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: because I'm not mad. You say wow he's fine now.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I say he can't push the car.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I say he's not mad. He's fine now. Then he
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: goes forth to tell you how will you draw a
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: car without drawing the key. You say what? He says
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: he's madder than mad.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: So Simon was baptized and continued with Philip.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: So as he baptized quickly was recruited. Pastoral squad.
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  Speaker 2: And was amazed seeing the miracles and signs which were done.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Verse 14 now. Quickly please.
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  Speaker 2: Now the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria
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  Speaker 2: had received the word. Now they heard the young man
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  Speaker 2: who was sent to Samaria turned the place upside down.
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  Speaker 2: And they said to send some elders. And they sent
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  Speaker 2: Peter and John to them. Verse 15.
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  Speaker 3: And when they were come down.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Ghost.
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  Speaker 2: For as yet was falling upon none of them, only
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  Speaker 2: that they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: Then laid they their hands, and they received the Holy Ghost.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: And when Simon saw that through the laying on of
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  Speaker 2: the apostles' hands, the Holy Ghost was given, he offered
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: them money. That was when they discovered this guy did
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: not understand anything. Imagine if you are Philip and you
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  Speaker 2: are pastoring a branch of Swerve Light Church. And you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: have shared a.
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  Speaker 3: Testimony and say, wow, Apostle, look at what is happening
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: in our branch. So and so person. And then he
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: comes there himself and have a one-on-one conversation in your presence.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: You discover that this fellow is saying, take money. Give
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  Speaker 3: me the grace.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Because now that has become a legal practice. What Peter
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: rebuked then is now legal.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: It's legal.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Because people just believe that once you can put some
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: things in a brown envelope, you can carry all.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: That is on a man. It doesn't work that way. Okay?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. So your greatest testimony now
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: becomes the greatest source of reproach.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: How do you think Philip will be? So Philip discovered
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: that he does not understand. So when God said, look
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  Speaker 2: at the Ethiopian eunuch, that's why he could ask.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: Him I have been scammed before. You understand this now.
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  Speaker 3: That's where it came from.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to assume that because it is the
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  Speaker 2: Bible you are reading, you know it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying? Do you understand what
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? I have examples. I have examples. But I'm careful.
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  Speaker 2: How that sometimes you'll be amazed. People can go through
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the same baptism.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: And yet some are not wet. And you are wondering,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: listen to this, it is not everyone.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Who is listening and is listening with their heart. Many
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: people in church, low key, are confused. And there are
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: many people that are in church today but they'll become
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the future Boko Harams against the church. By that I
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: mean people who has now found ministry.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: In castigating the church.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I've shared this, and I don't share this story because
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  Speaker 4: it is something I feel a lot about, but I
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  Speaker 4: share this story because for some reasons, it gave me
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  Speaker 4: a certain level of amazement when it happened that my
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: heart sank.
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  Speaker 3: Are you following what I'm saying here? I mean, it
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: gave me a certain level of amazement.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I remember as a ministry, and you see, you may
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: not understand yet, but if God is calling you to ministry,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: One of the things that must happen to you as
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a pastor is that God must really hold your heart.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Because you will see things sometimes and you wonder, I've
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: been taught, I mean, how would you think Jesus would
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: have seen Peter? That with all the things you have
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: gone through, you can deny me before a small girl. Now,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: how do you not think you will see Judas? You
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: read of how he appointed everyone except Judas. Because Judas
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: came from the scratch.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: He came from the very beginning. I was the one
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: that betrayed Jesus. It came from the beginning. Now you wonder,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: how can you?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I've been seeing all these things and yet you have
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: the earphone tree. People can sit for years, but I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: have no understanding. Are you following what I'm saying here?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: People can sit for decades, but I have no understanding.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: People can even preach, but I have no understanding.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I remember the story. The church was just starting. We
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: had a covenant practice.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Every January of the year we fast.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: At the end of the month we give our first fruit.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: This boy, this is what we do. He's a minister
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: in the church. He said, ask him, first fruit, did
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: God give me this job? I've never heard it. My
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: heart sank when I heard it. He said, I work
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: hard and studied and I got the job. Now there
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: are things you would think people would know Until you
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: check them out. When Philip now said. From henceforth when
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I see men. Who look religious. And they look sound
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and carry the Bible. It is not an endorsement to
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: jump on them.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: No.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Let's check their level of understanding. Because they may not
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: be there. And I'm saying this because I know. We
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: are in that season. that they will be falling away
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: in the body of Christ.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: The report card of ministers and ministries will be given
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: to them. The epistles of the ministry are the kind
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: of men you have raised. Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: If the new Nigeria you are asking for is being delayed,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: it is to the advantage of the church.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: The church does not understand that every nation that left
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: from the third world country and moved to this revival
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: died with it. When Europe broke into prosperity, the move ceased.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Because most times we have founded the men who can
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: thrive in the days of adversity, but they cannot thrive
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: in the days of prosperity.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: You see, while it looks like people are crying and shouting.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Everywhere, I sit and I look at things and I
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: shiver and I say, God, you are the one who
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: really knows how deep these things are. And for you
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to know that some of these things are not deep.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Where are those guys you all shouted and prayed together
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: on campus? And many of them will never return back
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: to knowing that God, they used to know God called
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: them on campus, but now they don't believe anymore.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: In revival, the noise is loud, but is it that deep?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: If the way people hold hands and are praying, if
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: that is the way it happens in the closet, this
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: nation would have been turned upside down.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: If care is not taken, we'll just have men who
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: are marking registers. I've also done eight hours.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: How many hours have you done So I've done 24.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I remember somebody came to me and said, what's the
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: longest time you have prayed?
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: I said, it's the longest time I've prayed. The following week,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: fellow went to do times two. Came back. I said,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: it's not by that. You don't perfect these things in
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: the energy of the flesh. You are not breaking any record.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: There's no Guinness record for prayer. It's an activity of
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: the spirit. We don't understand. And I....
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I love the body of Christ, but even when I
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: look at Sphere of Light Church, and at one point
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I had to honestly admit that sincerely it is not
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the quality of what.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: We teach that raises men. That is the truth. If
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: it is the quality, everybody should be men of stature.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, if it was the quality, why should Judas
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: be under Jesus? Why would I preach that Jesus did
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: not preach? By what grace would I preach that Jesus
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: did not preach? So I had to go and meet
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: an elderly minister. I said, just tell me, which of
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: these raises men? Is it the quality of the word
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: or the structure.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Of the house?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: He said, none of the above. You can take a
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: horse to the river. You can't force it to drink.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: If care is not taken, we will raise people in
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: church who are potential time bombs. And particularly pastors who
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: don't settle down to teach the word.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: You force it down their throat. They are not understanding
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: and they are offended. They respect, respect. Wow, one day
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: they explode. Again, I'm asking you, understand that's not what
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: you read. Until you have seen men sit in church.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: But you discover they are not in touch. They are
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: not here.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Everything, I mean, if you are discouraged as a minister,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: because I've passed through that phase. I look at them
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: and say, what is happening? Oh God, why did you
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: call me now? I mean, I couldn't, leave me alone.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Are you following what I'm saying? I know what I'm
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: saying though. I can't be telling you stories. You just
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: see things.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: You say, ah. Sometimes it's the test of my mom.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: My mom.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Our friend there. Jesus called my attention. John 6. He
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: had 512 disciples. He taught one deep things. They were
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: left with 12.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: John 6. Are you following what I'm saying there? I mean...
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: John 21. Out of that 12, 8 went back to fish.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: One had denied him. Act 1. The one that Jesus
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: came back and said, you are Peter. If you love me,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: keep my sheep.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Was now asking Jesus. Having done three and a half
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: years of ministry, what we.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Call the greatest ministry on earth, Peter did not know
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the mission statement.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying? He said, have you come
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: to restore the kingdom back to Israel? Are you saying
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I came to die for political reasons? I'm saying that
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: people say mmm does not mean they understand. Do you
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying? There are people who are professional
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: mmm deep oh it's me.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: They don't understand.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: And sometimes when people undo the word And I'm telling you,
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: and the reason why I do not get easily impressed
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: is not because I look down on people, but because
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: I have seen people who are deep, but their lifestyle
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: is not. So I honestly take my time and check
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: the man who is talking.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Is it just a revelation?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, revelation can be scavenged. You can hear
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: from someone, flesh it out a little to sound new.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Every new thing edifies the soul. So if you have
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: soulish people, all you have to give them is new things.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: They'll be edified. But spiritual men are not. Particularly if
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: you have knowledge of history, you'll be humble. You'll not
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: even be carried away by your own success.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: That's why I... Let me leave it. Alright? So again,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: the Lord is asking you this question this morning. Understand
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: this now Do you understand?
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Because we can't be here and we don't know a thing.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: So God said, this full-blown church is going to Abuja.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Why are we going to Abuja?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Is it because so that by the time they introduce
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Apostle Samuel as ours, all the way from Abuja.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: You know that can be a reason.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: And you can fast and pray Marathon for wrong reasons
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: that you don't know.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: You can. Your heart is deeper than that now. The
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: heart of man is deep. You don't understand. God, why
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: are we going? If we are coming here to do
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: what every other person is doing there, why send us?
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to just jump and say, yes, I've
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: been desiring it. I've never desired this place. I've never.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: It's not in my plan as it were. But do
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: you understand? We believe you are a Christian.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: We think God's hand is upon you, but understand this now.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: What we believe may not be true. I want you
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: to bow your head.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And ask God. And say, Father, help me. And please
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: give me understanding. Please give me understanding. That I will
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: not go through.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: This like one who has gone through a river and
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: is not wet. Please give me understanding. I don't want
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: to betray the purpose of the kingdom. Please give me understanding.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Those of you who are ministers, those of you who
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: are leaders, people have estimations of you and sometimes it's
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: not true. It's not true what they assume. It's not
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: true what they are thinking. Sometimes it's not true. And
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: even while listening to this message, you found yourself like that.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: That I really do not understand. And tell God to
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: help you. Say, my Father and my God, help me.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Help me, Jesus. We give you praise, Lord. In Jesus'
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: name we pray.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: My Father, my God, I'm asking, concerning everyone.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Who are in this workers' meeting, those connected from Lagos,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Lagos Church, those connected from Ibadan Church and Ife Church.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: My Father and my God, help everyone.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Let it be impossible for anyone to fall away, Lord.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't hear that amen well enough. Whatsoever it takes,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: help the heart of your children. You said to David,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: He said, if your children forsake me and keep not
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: my statues, He said, with my rod will I chastise them,
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  Speaker 2: but my loving kindness will I not take away from them.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how hard anyone under the sound of my
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  Speaker 2: voice try to veer off, let it be impossible to
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  Speaker 2: fall away. Father, we ask for the spirit of understanding
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  Speaker 2: upon everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Release it, Lord. We give you praise. In Jesus' mighty name. Amen.
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