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LOST TECHNOLOGY OF EGYPT? | HANS DIETRICH · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, my friend. It's good to see you.
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Speaker 1: that video well of this video. So do you think, Hans,
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Speaker 1: that we're really supposed to We're kind of talking about
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Speaker 1: this before this show started. Do you think that we're
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Speaker 1: supposed to know all the secrets of the universe? Like
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Speaker 1: I mean, we're here for a very short amount of
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Speaker 1: time compared to everything else. You know, some buildings stand
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Speaker 1: longer than people's lifespans. You know, the oldest structure in
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Speaker 1: the world I believe is we Beckley Tepe in Turkey,
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Speaker 1: and that was built, I think estimated between ninety six
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Speaker 1: hundred BCE, you know, And that's a lot of humans ago,
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Speaker 1: you know. And the oldest actual building in the world
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Speaker 1: is the Pantheon in Rome, Italy, which was built around
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five AD. That's a lot of
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Speaker 1: people ago to do. So this idea that we're supposed
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Speaker 1: to have everything figured out is complete and utter bullocks
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Speaker 1: to me. You know, what would even really be the
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Speaker 1: point of actually being here if we already knew everything?
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Speaker 1: Doesn't really make any sense to me.
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Speaker 2: It hasn't. And as we were saying, you know, possibly
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Speaker 2: we keep coming back here lifetime after lifetime, we keep
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Speaker 2: coming back to polish our diamond a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: Before you know, we ascend, we become all knowing beings.
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Speaker 2: If even that is the case. It's interesting that you
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Speaker 2: talk about architecture because in architecture and ancient structures, a
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Speaker 2: lot of the knowledge of that time is placed in
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Speaker 2: these monuments that are, as you say, somewhat timeless. And
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Speaker 2: so even though we're not living these long, extended lifespans.
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Speaker 2: The monuments and structures that we leave behind certainly are
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Speaker 2: and so there's definitely something that can be learned from
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Speaker 2: all these. I actually believe karen Tepe is a little
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Speaker 2: bit older than quebecley Tepe now that they've started, you know,
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Speaker 2: carbondating what they've been able to carbon date or find.
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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to think that we can carbonate stone, but
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Speaker 2: we can't. We can only carbonate you know, organic materials
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Speaker 2: around stone or on stone, and so this could be
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Speaker 2: stuff from lichen, it could be you know, human remains
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Speaker 2: or elements that have been left there. It's interesting like
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Speaker 2: in grows at a specific rate over the course of time,
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Speaker 2: depending on elevation. And so you go to somewhere like
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Speaker 2: Peru and you go up into the you know, the
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Speaker 2: and basically the region around there, up into the Sacred
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Speaker 2: Valley outside of Cusco up to Oante Tombo, and the
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Speaker 2: lichen patches on some of the stonework there are massive.
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Speaker 2: And so this indicates longevity longer than we're being told that,
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Speaker 2: you know, it has gone on a lot of these sites,
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Speaker 2: and so are we just you know, rinsing and repeating
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Speaker 2: history over and over and over again. We come to
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Speaker 2: a crescendo and a climax, and then we re start again.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is kind of how the Yuga cycles go,
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Speaker 2: or to the ancient chemic commissions, this is how the
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Speaker 2: phases of the sun, or the phases of our life go.
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Speaker 2: We go through different phases of our sun every day,
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Speaker 2: and we go through different phases in our life. And
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Speaker 2: so's it's really a good question as to what is
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Speaker 2: our antiquity? What is our legacy? And now that we're
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Speaker 2: you know, calling ourselves the most sophisticated societies in the
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Speaker 2: world right now, I don't really see that cosiering. We're
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Speaker 2: still head first in war and poverty and all sorts
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Speaker 2: of things that we could definitely solve with, you know,
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Speaker 2: all of this amazing technology and money that we have,
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Speaker 2: but we choose not to. And so what is our
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Speaker 2: legacy going forward? What's going to remain of our city
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Speaker 2: structures and buildings? Who knows?
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Speaker 1: I don't think very much. I mean, if you just
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Speaker 1: look at the way the things, you know, dissipate in
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Speaker 1: a road over just one hundred years, I feel like
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Speaker 1: anything that we've built in modern time, in recent times,
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Speaker 1: in a couple of hundred years is all going to
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Speaker 1: be gone, and it's going to be very little trace
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Speaker 1: of that we were even here. If something happened, then
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Speaker 1: we all just disappeared, like right now, I honestly feel
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Speaker 1: like in a couple of hundred years there it would
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Speaker 1: be like it would we didn't even exist.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, nature would regrow itself, similar to what we see
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Speaker 2: in the Amazon. I mean, once they started doing you know,
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Speaker 2: satellite and plane based radar over the Amazon and light ar,
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Speaker 2: they're discovering huge city complexes that would have millions of people.
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Speaker 2: And most of the Amazon, as we know, was terra preta,
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Speaker 2: so it's mostly man made, but over the course of
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Speaker 2: history it's grown over everything and we don't even know
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Speaker 2: what's there anymore because it's all jungle.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the new Graham Hancock what is it
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Speaker 1: Ancient Apocalypse Season.
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Speaker 2: Two right, a lot about that. He talks about that
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Speaker 2: in his second book, from Fingerprints of the Gods and
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Speaker 2: Magicians of the Gods, he talks a bit about Terra
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Speaker 2: Prada down there as well. And you know, we're coming
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Speaker 2: close to figuring out exactly what they were doing. If
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Speaker 2: you are a farmer, you do grow your own food
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Speaker 2: and stuff using charcoal and activated biocharcoal is amazing because
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Speaker 2: this is kind of a way of making your own
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Speaker 2: soil into a terra preta. So we're discovering ways of
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Speaker 2: the old that you know, hopefully will help us move forward.
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Speaker 1: Well, you've been to i believe, twenty two different countries
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Speaker 1: including Peru, Mexico, Egypt, Nepal, India, and the list goes
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Speaker 1: on and on and on. What have you found that's
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Speaker 1: like connecting tissue to like all these sites? Do you
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Speaker 1: think that a lot of these famous, you know, megalithic
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Speaker 1: structures are somehow connected in any kind of way.
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Speaker 2: We see the fingerprints of you know, specific types of stonemasonry,
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Speaker 2: and we see this in Peru, we see this all
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Speaker 2: over Turkey, we see this all over Egypt. There's bits
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Speaker 2: and pieces of similarity in Cambodia, in India, even even
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Speaker 2: in Russia in places where they've started discovering some ancient sites.
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Speaker 2: And so, at some point, the knowledge of how to
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Speaker 2: cut these stones in specific ways with interlocking grooves or
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Speaker 2: curved back surfaces themes to have permeated from culture to
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Speaker 2: culture to culture. Maybe it's one hundredth monkey syndrome, or
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Speaker 2: maybe you know there was a common architect or architectural
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Speaker 2: or masonry stone masonry type of school that allowed you know,
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Speaker 2: the best in the bright in those fields to actually
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Speaker 2: share this information and bring this technology to different parts
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Speaker 2: of the world in ancient times.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been my kind of thought for a long time,
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Speaker 1: is like, you know, what if all these megalithic structures
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Speaker 1: are like connected in some kind of way. What if
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Speaker 1: they're like all put on like certain energetic of war
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Speaker 1: taxes or like on certain lay lines and they're all
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Speaker 1: kind of like lined up and they create this big,
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Speaker 1: large system. Because there's been so many theories about what
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Speaker 1: the you know, the Pyramid of Giza really is. Some
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Speaker 1: people think it's like a power plant, like a some
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Speaker 1: kind of machinery, some kind of electrical device or something.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you'd have to have a
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Speaker 1: central location if it was some kind of electrical device
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Speaker 1: or like a power plant or something, you would have
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Speaker 1: to have something powering that.
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Speaker 2: Definitely, having been to Giza twice now and having been
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Speaker 2: in the Great Pyramid three four times now, which is
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Speaker 2: pretty amazing, there's some interest around that. Because my favorite
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Speaker 2: spot on the Pyramid isn't the King's chamber, it isn't
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Speaker 2: the Queen's chamber. It's actually the subterranean because when you
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Speaker 2: go down there you see the evidence of water damage.
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Speaker 2: It's very evident. There's a well shaft. The well shaft
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Speaker 2: goes down, it's conveniently cemented over. There's what they call
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Speaker 2: the dead end shaft. I've gone to the end of
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Speaker 2: that while everybody is still touring through the King's Chamber
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Speaker 2: and the Queen's Chamber. I like to be the first
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Speaker 2: one down there, and I will climb down to the
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Speaker 2: end of that tunnel. It is tiny. It's a little
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Speaker 2: bit over a meter by a meter, and then it
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Speaker 2: goes about seventy feet back and you're kneeing yourself over
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Speaker 2: just ripped up bed rock. And it's interesting. There's about
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Speaker 2: an inch of salt on the ceiling that people have
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Speaker 2: engraved their graffiti their names into, which is another evidence
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Speaker 2: that there was a water flow that was coming through there.
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Speaker 2: And the back of it is cemented over again conveniently,
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Speaker 2: and there's a drill hole through it, so obviously there's
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Speaker 2: something else that moves past that. And if you start
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Speaker 2: looking at some of the other tunnel structures underneath the
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Speaker 2: Giza Plateau, a lot of them align with where that
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Speaker 2: well shaft and where the dead end shaft would come out,
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Speaker 2: especially the Osiris shaft. And so in the Osiris shaft
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Speaker 2: you go down it's I believe it's a little over
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty feet down, but you're going down
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Speaker 2: what would be the equivalent of about ten stories of
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Speaker 2: a building here you know in our modern world, or
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Speaker 2: nine to ten foot ceilings whatever. And you go down
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Speaker 2: into it, and you go down three different layers, and
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Speaker 2: the bottom layer is submerged in about two to three
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Speaker 2: feet of water, even possibly even more. And this is
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Speaker 2: the natural water that comes underneath the Giza plateau. And
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Speaker 2: recently I was listening to somebody trying to debunk all
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Speaker 2: this and he's like, oh, Giza wasn't built over massive water.
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Speaker 2: Well it was. And not only was it built over
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Speaker 2: massive water, but there are tunnel systems underneath Giza. I say,
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Speaker 2: they stack about ten deep, and they're the size of
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Speaker 2: semi the inside of like semi car trailers. And some
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Speaker 2: ofod these go out fifty sixty kilometers out into the
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Speaker 2: western desert. But what is the purpose of these Well,
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Speaker 2: they were bringing water to the sites, and so you
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Speaker 2: were mentioning lay lines earlier. And you look at sites
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Speaker 2: in Peru, and you look at some of the major
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Speaker 2: sites in Egypt and elsewhere around the world, a lot
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Speaker 2: of them are associated with lay lines, and a lot
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Speaker 2: of those lay lines are associated with massive water. And
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Speaker 2: so water is interesting because not only does it it flow,
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Speaker 2: it's its own current in a sense, but it can
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Speaker 2: help with you know, movement of electricity. You can harness
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Speaker 2: water through pressure. You can cut sharper than diamond with
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Speaker 2: water if you can create the right pressure with it,
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Speaker 2: and you can you know, you can float and levitate
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Speaker 2: things on water using its own you know, pressure system
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Speaker 2: and balances. And so seeing that water had bubbled up
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Speaker 2: into the bottom chambers of the Great Pyramid, it's very
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Speaker 2: interesting because this leads into Christopher Dunn and I can't
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Speaker 2: remember the other guy's name, but they talk about possibility
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Speaker 2: of it being a ram pump or some sort of
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Speaker 2: a pumping mechanism that would burn and create hydrogen. It
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Speaker 2: would break off the hydrogen which then with a mixture
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Speaker 2: of elixirs and chemicals, would allow a piezo electric spark
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Speaker 2: to effect and you would have a generator. Quite literally,
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Speaker 2: here we are looking at the Cyris shaft. Don't go down,
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Speaker 2: don't go down. The ladder on the right, it is
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Speaker 2: the most rickety ladder you it looks it's attached by
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Speaker 2: like three bolts.
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Speaker 1: That was the og ladder, the original ladder. So who
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Speaker 1: was it that kind of blew the lid on this
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Speaker 1: being like this underground chamber underneath the pearmakers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna sorry. In the nineties, there was
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Speaker 2: a video that came out I think it was on
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Speaker 2: ABC News where a reporter had gone with zahie Jas
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Speaker 2: down into it. So if you pause on this photo,
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Speaker 2: basically Zahi Jaas had drained and pumped out all the
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Speaker 2: water because he wanted to get into the box, which
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Speaker 2: you can kind of see in the foreground. And this
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Speaker 2: box is it's a it's a green quartzite and it
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Speaker 2: comes from Lebanon, and it's very mysterious because it's all
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Speaker 2: one piece of stone, as most of the most actually
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Speaker 2: all of the boxes are in Egypt. And even without
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Speaker 2: it's lid, it does not fit down any of the
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Speaker 2: carved shafts and tunnel systems that lead down there. It
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Speaker 2: just doesn't. It's the wrong dimensions, and so it really
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Speaker 2: beggers the question, how on earth did you get down there? Now,
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Speaker 2: what you don't see in this photo in this room
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Speaker 2: is there were four pillars. You can see kind of
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Speaker 2: the broken parts of two of the pillars. There's one
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Speaker 2: behind that wooden scaffolding, and then the other two are
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Speaker 2: behind whoever's taking this photo. But this is all fresh water.
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Speaker 2: And when we were down there with yusuf Iowan, he was,
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Speaker 2: you know, tasting the water, going wow, it's really sweet
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Speaker 2: because it's being filtered through all the limestone and the
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Speaker 2: natural bedrock and the granite down there that it's acting
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Speaker 2: in the filtration system. Yeah. Unfortunately, you know, tourists like
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Speaker 2: to throw their trash and so do the locals, and
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Speaker 2: so there's a lot of you know, unfortunately cosmetic pollution
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Speaker 2: around the area. But the interesting aspects of this are
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Speaker 2: where do those other two shafts go. Because at the
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Speaker 2: back of the room, there's a shaft that goes to
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Speaker 2: the right, so that would end up underneath literally the
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Speaker 2: well shaft in the Great Pyramid, and there's a shaft
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Speaker 2: that goes to the left. Where does that go? And
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Speaker 2: so this goes into some of the other extensive tunnel
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Speaker 2: systems that are underneath there and as Zahi was, you know,
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Speaker 2: pumping all this out, they found absolutely nothing in this
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Speaker 2: what they called a sarcophagus when they lifted the lid
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Speaker 2: on it. And so it beggars the question what were
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Speaker 2: these boxes used for if they weren't, you know, using
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Speaker 2: them for burial systems.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's some sarcopic guy that there's two of them
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Speaker 1: at the bottom where the water is correct.
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Speaker 2: There's one, there's a lot, there's a large reset that
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Speaker 2: goes down and then in that reset is this green
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Speaker 2: Courtzeite box and it comes literally they've they've figured out
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Speaker 2: from its strata that it comes out of Lebanon. And
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Speaker 2: so not only did it come from Lebanon, you know,
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Speaker 2: several hundred to two thousand miles away, but it somehow
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Speaker 2: ended up at the bottom of the Asirish shaft with
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Speaker 2: no visible means of getting it down there.
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Speaker 1: So aren't there some other sarcophaic guy down there as well?
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Speaker 1: Isn't there like another.
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Speaker 2: Room on the layer above it? There's seven alcoves. Four
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Speaker 2: of them have some pretty crude, rudimentary sarcopha guy that
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Speaker 2: I think people were actually buried in. But these aren't
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Speaker 2: from the times obviously, when this was built, and then
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Speaker 2: there's a black box in there that's smaller than the
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Speaker 2: ones that you see at the Serapium, but it's fascinating
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Speaker 2: because it has this oily substance covering it, and I
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Speaker 2: think this is creosote that comes from fires being burned
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Speaker 2: down there. They leave that residue living in Nepal. You
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Speaker 2: see that a lot in the villages because they don't
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Speaker 2: have a lot of ventilation, and so all the kitchen
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Speaker 2: smoke bellows out through the front door underneath their awning
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Speaker 2: and anything that you place up there is just going
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Speaker 2: to be covered in this. It's like a waxy, oily creosote.
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Speaker 2: It's the only way I can describe it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting, and how they got those. So
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Speaker 1: it's basically meaning that the pyramid had to have been
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Speaker 1: built on top of the Circofica, like the or had
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Speaker 1: to be there, and then the pyramid built on top
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Speaker 1: of it.
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Speaker 2: Right, And you know, we're we're not taught this in history,
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Speaker 2: but there's a vast underground and they're saying underground complex
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Speaker 2: underneath Giza, and so we're just till all the pyramids
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Speaker 2: they built them here, and it's like that what was
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Speaker 2: built underneath it, and how old are those structures. Were
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Speaker 2: they being utilized to help build the pyramids or were
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Speaker 2: they They're a lot, you know, a lot further past
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Speaker 2: in antiquity. And the fact that you have these tunnels
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Speaker 2: going out into the western desert is even more fascinating
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Speaker 2: because when the Germans were doing a lot of satellite
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Speaker 2: scams and aerial photography of the area, they realized that
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Speaker 2: most of that western desert from Libya down into Egypt
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Speaker 2: was a massive water spillover from the Mediterranean, and so
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Speaker 2: this could have been from the housing common event. Allegedly
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Speaker 2: a comet broke up over North America into several pieces,
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Speaker 2: and all all those pieces splashed down into the ice
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Speaker 2: sheet all the way down into Lebanon, and so big
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Speaker 2: chunks of them could have splashed down on the Mediterranean,
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Speaker 2: which would have flowed up and over the burm of
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Speaker 2: northern Africa, which at that time would have been all jungle,
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Speaker 2: and so now it's all desert because you know, the
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Speaker 2: salt water the Mediterranean would have pretty much killed off
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Speaker 2: any ability for massive plant growth to exist there any longer.
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that prior to our unfortunate you know,
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Speaker 2: demise of Libya. Gaddafi found this massive underground water aquifer
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Speaker 2: right there in the desert that borders basically Libya, Sudan,
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Speaker 2: and Egypt, and it's huge. It's one of the largest
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Speaker 2: water aquifers in the world. And so he started this
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Speaker 2: water one project that would feed Libya, Sudan, and Egypt
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Speaker 2: for free because he felt that everybody shared this water together.
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Speaker 2: And I only stumbled into it because I was looking
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Speaker 2: at the time. I was working for a company called Precycle,
18:53
Speaker 2: which allows products and tools and things packaging that you're
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Speaker 2: making basically to all you have. It's recycling lifestyle baked
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Speaker 2: into it so that we don't have to come back
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Speaker 2: to it a second time around and go, oh, maybe
19:06
Speaker 2: we need to discover a way to recycle this. And
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Speaker 2: so I was looking into refurbishing, you know, piping and
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Speaker 2: drainage systems because a lot of this stuff and if
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Speaker 2: a huge you know, sewer pipe or drainage pipe has
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Speaker 2: a crack in it, you can't use it. Do you
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Speaker 2: just leave it derelict? And I started noticing all these
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Speaker 2: derelict tunnel systems and tubes out in the Libyan and
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Speaker 2: Egyptian desert. It's like, why can't you repurpose these. You
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Speaker 2: can cut them in half. You can create you know,
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Speaker 2: water reservoirs, you can create you know, potable soil reservoirs
19:33
Speaker 2: for them. You can use them to you know, board
19:35
Speaker 2: off both ends. You can put livestock in there. You
19:38
Speaker 2: can put you know, your crop in there to dry out,
19:40
Speaker 2: like wheat or any harvest that you have. You can
19:44
Speaker 2: use them for military installations. You can recut them into barricades.
19:47
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many uses for them rather than
19:49
Speaker 2: the desert just eating them up and devouring over time.
19:52
Speaker 2: And so that's when I started realizing. I'm like, God,
19:54
Speaker 2: there's this massive water aquifer underneath this huge portion of
19:59
Speaker 2: the Egyptian desert. And when you start looking into it, well,
20:02
Speaker 2: it makes sense because you have the uranile there, and
20:05
Speaker 2: over time the nile shifted over to where the nile
20:08
Speaker 2: is now, which is on the other side of Giza.
20:10
Speaker 2: But the fact that there are these massive tunnel systems
20:13
Speaker 2: going out to where once this massive water structure was
20:16
Speaker 2: is indication that they were bringing water to the sites.
20:20
Speaker 1: So to get underneath the Great Pyramid of Giza to
20:23
Speaker 1: see these chambers and get to the subterranean level, because
20:27
Speaker 1: I've never been there. I've always wanted to go, But
20:29
Speaker 1: you've been there, You've been boots on the ground there,
20:31
Speaker 1: So it's perfect for me to ask you these questions.
20:33
Speaker 1: Do you have to go inside of the pyramid to
20:36
Speaker 1: get down underneath the pyramid? Orders of the access point outside.
20:43
Speaker 2: It's on the north face of the pyramid. They found
20:45
Speaker 2: the original entrance, which was closed off by a shifting
20:49
Speaker 2: bellow system, which is why I think there was this
20:51
Speaker 2: water mechanism that would burp whenever anything would happen. And
20:56
Speaker 2: then the tomb robber bomb. He dynamited a section next
21:01
Speaker 2: to that and then started digging into it.
21:03
Speaker 1: So that's how they originally got into it, right, Yeah.
21:07
Speaker 2: Rock Moods Tunnel. Yeah, and so you kind of skrew
21:11
Speaker 2: it around and you end up where the downward shaft
21:16
Speaker 2: meets both the shaft up to the King's Chamber and
21:19
Speaker 2: the shaft into the Queen's gallery. They all kind of
21:23
Speaker 2: meet up at this little corridor in the central area,
21:25
Speaker 2: and it's it's interesting that he was even able to
21:28
Speaker 2: find that, quite honestly, because if you see the way
21:31
Speaker 2: that the tunnel is dug, it digs out to the
21:34
Speaker 2: right and then it scoops back into the left, and
21:37
Speaker 2: I think partially when they were digging it, they heard
21:40
Speaker 2: something fall and that's why they started going back toward
21:43
Speaker 2: the left. And then they ended up meeting at this
21:45
Speaker 2: central junction where the Queen's Chamber, the King's Chamber, and
21:48
Speaker 2: the subterranean all meet up. To get in the pyramids,
21:52
Speaker 2: it's not very difficult. I mean, you can go to
21:53
Speaker 2: Egypt on your own. You pay about three hundred dollars
21:56
Speaker 2: at the front gate and they give you less than
21:58
Speaker 2: twenty minutes, and you're only to go to the kings chamber.
22:02
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to do any sacrifices, rituals, marriages, religion, chanting,
22:08
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to do any of this in there
22:09
Speaker 2: because obviously, excuse me, I go true much enough.
22:13
Speaker 1: I mean I can't summon Cthulhu inside of the pyramids.
22:17
Speaker 2: You might be able to when you when you get
22:20
Speaker 2: on a private tour, though, and usually these private tours
22:22
Speaker 2: have thirty forty to the second tour I was on,
22:25
Speaker 2: we had eighty two people on the tour, but we had,
22:28
Speaker 2: you know, five speakers, we had we had use of
22:30
Speaker 2: Iowa on, we had Patricia, we had Brian Forrester, Hugh
22:34
Speaker 2: Newman and Andrew Collins, and so it was. It was
22:37
Speaker 2: a massive undertaking, and I ended up becoming a manager
22:40
Speaker 2: on the second half of that tour because with eighty
22:43
Speaker 2: eighty two people, it's very difficult for you know, to
22:46
Speaker 2: keep track of everybody, especially when you get to sites
22:48
Speaker 2: like Karnak. But when you're going on these tours with
22:51
Speaker 2: you know, a larger group, you pay for private access
22:54
Speaker 2: into a lot of these sites that generalized tourists never
22:58
Speaker 2: get access to unless you have an amazing guide who
23:02
Speaker 2: knows people and can pay off the big or the
23:05
Speaker 2: bucksheish to get the guy with the keys to unlocker
23:07
Speaker 2: rooms for you. But on the private tours, you get
23:09
Speaker 2: up to three hours inside of the Great Pyramid. You
23:11
Speaker 2: go in at sunset and you come out when it's
23:14
Speaker 2: pitch black outside. You first go up into the King's
23:17
Speaker 2: Chamber and the first thing people do when they get
23:19
Speaker 2: up there is they start chanting because the harmonic frequency
23:23
Speaker 2: in the King's Chamber is that it's at F, which
23:26
Speaker 2: is interesting. So you hit this this F tone. I
23:28
Speaker 2: can duel split when I chant, so you kind of
23:31
Speaker 2: get a double split in there. But with everybody chanting
23:34
Speaker 2: in there and yourself. You kind of feel very uplifted
23:37
Speaker 2: because you're surrounded by all this amazing granted, and it's
23:40
Speaker 2: just it's a beautiful experience. But then when you get
23:42
Speaker 2: into the box, the King's Altar, the King's Box, the
23:46
Speaker 2: box tunes at a sharp so that's either a fifth
23:49
Speaker 2: forward or a third sorry, it's a third forward or
23:53
Speaker 2: a fifth backward from F. And so when you're in
23:56
Speaker 2: the box toning and everybody else outside of you is
23:59
Speaker 2: toning at that other frequency, you feel like you're having
24:02
Speaker 2: an out of body experience. It's it's very prolific. It's
24:06
Speaker 2: very similar to I don't know if you've ever done
24:08
Speaker 2: a flotation or if anybody in your crowd I've ever done,
24:10
Speaker 2: like an isolation chamber or floatation ft tank. It's very
24:15
Speaker 2: similar to that. You feel like you're weightless, you're in
24:18
Speaker 2: the middle of the universe, you know nothing is around you.
24:22
Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing. And then everybody from there meanders down
24:26
Speaker 2: to the Queen's Chamber, and I'm always the first one.
24:28
Speaker 2: The second they opened the Queen's Chamber, they open the
24:30
Speaker 2: gate to go down to the subterranean. I'm always the
24:32
Speaker 2: first person down there because I want to go from
24:35
Speaker 2: having this uplifting experience, this out of body experience in
24:38
Speaker 2: the in the box and in the King's Chamber, to
24:42
Speaker 2: a very grounded experience at the end of the dead
24:44
Speaker 2: end shaft. And so I will climb down to the
24:46
Speaker 2: end of the dead end shaft, I'll turn my torch out,
24:48
Speaker 2: I'll get int the lotus position. I might chant for,
24:51
Speaker 2: you know, tone, tone down there for about a minute,
24:54
Speaker 2: and then I go completely silent. And the noise that
24:58
Speaker 2: you hear down there is it's so overwhelming, it's unbelievable.
25:02
Speaker 2: But you're not hearing any external noise. You're hearing your
25:05
Speaker 2: own body. And so that's why I say it's one
25:07
Speaker 2: of the most grounding experiences having come out of you know,
25:10
Speaker 2: being in the King's Chamber.
25:12
Speaker 1: And the very much uplifting experience there as above so
25:16
Speaker 1: below baby.
25:17
Speaker 2: Right bingo, and so Beggar's the question what is the
25:21
Speaker 2: oldest part of the Great Pyramid, And a lot of
25:23
Speaker 2: us think it is the subterranean. We think that that
25:26
Speaker 2: was built long before the Pyramive was ever built, primarily
25:29
Speaker 2: because down there you don't have any block work like
25:32
Speaker 2: you do in the rest of the pyramid. It's all
25:34
Speaker 2: cut out of the bedrock. And as I said, it
25:37
Speaker 2: looks like there's been an extended period of time of
25:40
Speaker 2: rushing water over a lot of the stonework that is
25:43
Speaker 2: down there, because it's just melted away from the water.
25:46
Speaker 2: And this is bedrock, so you're, you know, you're using
25:48
Speaker 2: water to basically eat through granite and limestone in the
25:53
Speaker 2: sense that it's really interesting to see.
25:56
Speaker 1: So was the original Is there another access point to
25:59
Speaker 1: get into the subterranean layer underneath the pyramid? R was
26:04
Speaker 1: only one.
26:04
Speaker 2: Other than the well shaft and the dead end shaft,
26:07
Speaker 2: which we don't know where they go. The well shaft
26:09
Speaker 2: goes down about thirty feet and then it cemented off
26:12
Speaker 2: and about twenty feet down you can see that there
26:14
Speaker 2: are tunnels going off from that, and so there could
26:17
Speaker 2: have possibly been other ways that people could have gotten
26:20
Speaker 2: into it in the ancient past. But as far as
26:23
Speaker 2: I know, and as far as you know, other scholars
26:25
Speaker 2: that I've researched have suggested people really didn't go into
26:30
Speaker 2: the pyramid until you know, maf Mood dynamited his way in.
26:34
Speaker 2: There wasn't really they didn't know where the front entrance
26:36
Speaker 2: was because it was all stoned off by some of
26:39
Speaker 2: the stonework on the outside, and so then it also
26:42
Speaker 2: beggers the question, well, how old is the pyramids? Are
26:46
Speaker 2: the pyramids because we talk about the water damage on
26:51
Speaker 2: the back of the sphinx which has been bricked over,
26:53
Speaker 2: or the back wall of the sphinx enclosure, which doctor
26:56
Speaker 2: Robert Shock and John Anthony West talked a lot about
27:00
Speaker 2: got you know, conservatively estimates that it's ten thousand years old,
27:03
Speaker 2: but he's willing to go back as far as thirty
27:05
Speaker 2: five thousand years in his estimations as well, just because
27:09
Speaker 2: there was no significant rain water or runoff that would
27:12
Speaker 2: have created those kind of strichs or fissures. But when
27:15
Speaker 2: you're standing at the Sphinx and you're looking at all
27:18
Speaker 2: three pyramids, you can clearly see without a shadow of doubt,
27:22
Speaker 2: water damage two thirds of the way up all the pyramids.
27:26
Speaker 2: It's it's once you see it, you will not unsee it.
27:30
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of speculation around the middle pyramid
27:33
Speaker 2: because it still has the casing stones around the top,
27:36
Speaker 2: and you can see the line where the water was,
27:39
Speaker 2: but you can also see where the waves are breaking
27:41
Speaker 2: and taking out part of the upper structure because you
27:44
Speaker 2: have a waveform pattern going around it where the casing
27:48
Speaker 2: stones are still accessible at the top of the Middle pyramid.
27:52
Speaker 2: And the Middle Pyramid is really interesting because there aren't
27:55
Speaker 2: a lot of chambers inside of it that we know about,
27:58
Speaker 2: and most of them are at surface level or subterranean,
28:02
Speaker 2: and so what is in the rest of that pyramid
28:04
Speaker 2: Where the Great Pyramid you can go up into it
28:06
Speaker 2: and there's obviously structures and systems withinside of it, but
28:10
Speaker 2: we don't really see that within the Middle Pyramid. And
28:14
Speaker 2: I know that there's been some new reports that have
28:16
Speaker 2: come out from the Japanese group that was doing the
28:18
Speaker 2: muon testing in all three pyramids that suggest that there
28:22
Speaker 2: might be chambers in the upper section as well as
28:25
Speaker 2: a new chamber above the Grand Gallery and the Great Pyramid.
28:30
Speaker 1: That was sugg just like a massive amount of flooding,
28:35
Speaker 1: like a great flood, and that could have been a
28:37
Speaker 1: reason why all these underground tunnels were built, because they
28:43
Speaker 1: possibly knew that this giant flood was coming and that's
28:48
Speaker 1: how they survived the flood, and they just showed off
28:50
Speaker 1: the pyramid and wait until the flood waters come down
28:53
Speaker 1: and then come back up to the top kind of
28:55
Speaker 1: like to hope you people, you know.
28:58
Speaker 2: Or or Cappadocia or you know darren Cooya and Turkey.
29:03
Speaker 2: You know, you have these massive, massive underground cities that
29:07
Speaker 2: could house you know, thirty thousand people, livestock, stores, water.
29:12
Speaker 2: A lot of them are closed off by these huge circular,
29:16
Speaker 2: you know, boulders that they would put in front of
29:17
Speaker 2: the doorways, and miraculously were discovered when some guy was
29:21
Speaker 2: renovating his house and he crashed into one of these
29:24
Speaker 2: tunnel systems and went, wait, what's this, you know, and
29:26
Speaker 2: all of a sudden discovered this fifteen layer deep you
29:30
Speaker 2: know darren Cooya or Cappadocia region as well. So yeah, and.
29:36
Speaker 1: Then you got the CATACOLMBS in Paris as well as
29:39
Speaker 1: as like that. It's like it was a well known
29:43
Speaker 1: thing to have underground facilities, tunnels something in case of
29:50
Speaker 1: a large global natural disaster.
29:55
Speaker 2: You even find this in Peru. I mean Peru is
29:57
Speaker 2: connected by a series of underground tunnel that go from
30:00
Speaker 2: Oyati Tombo to Cousco and other areas. And even in
30:04
Speaker 2: Katmandu where I grew up. Katmandoo's in a valley. It
30:07
Speaker 2: used to be a massive body of water until one
30:10
Speaker 2: of the gods. You know Chobar, he cut it within
30:12
Speaker 2: the massive sword and it drained out. But there are
30:15
Speaker 2: vast cave systems that go all around Catman New Valley
30:17
Speaker 2: and underneath Catmandu Valley. And when the when the Ranas
30:22
Speaker 2: came in and took over the kingdom that was originally there,
30:25
Speaker 2: they fled or flooded these tunnels basically with all of
30:29
Speaker 2: their army and snuck into the city without anybody even
30:33
Speaker 2: knowing it. And so how did they know about these?
30:35
Speaker 2: You know, these tunnel systems. There's tunnel systems all over
30:38
Speaker 2: Afghanistan and Pakistan as well.
30:40
Speaker 1: I mean when you got them in the United States,
30:42
Speaker 1: for goodness sake, you got talk right all over the
30:44
Speaker 1: United States. I mean La, it is full of tunnels,
30:48
Speaker 1: even the underground system in La.
30:50
Speaker 2: Even here in Portland, same same thing with the Shanghai tunnels.
30:53
Speaker 2: They even go under the Willamette River.
30:54
Speaker 1: So Vegas as well. So it seems like some of these,
31:00
Speaker 1: like the big major cities like all have like this
31:04
Speaker 1: huge underground complex underneath them.
31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I lived in Washington, d C. I lived
31:09
Speaker 2: in Vienna, Virginia, and my best friend and I, Scott,
31:12
Speaker 2: would go down into the storm drains and explore them
31:15
Speaker 2: for hours. I mean, you can just wander in these
31:16
Speaker 2: things forever. My parents ever knew I was down there,
31:19
Speaker 2: you know, I would have been grounded forever. But we
31:22
Speaker 2: eventually came to this massive cistern where all these rain
31:26
Speaker 2: water runoff systems flowed into and you could look down
31:30
Speaker 2: that thing and it looks like Zion and the Matrix.
31:33
Speaker 2: I mean, it just goes forever and there's all these
31:35
Speaker 2: tunnel systems spilling water out into it forever, and then
31:38
Speaker 2: eventually it drains off into the Potomac. And you just
31:42
Speaker 2: got to wonder, you know, when, when and who was
31:44
Speaker 2: building these these massive infrastructures because obviously, you know, we've
31:48
Speaker 2: modernized them for today, but how old are they? You know,
31:52
Speaker 2: what was the lay of the land to build that
31:54
Speaker 2: in the metropolitan DC area? You know the same with
31:58
Speaker 2: any city. It's like you never see the underground structure
32:01
Speaker 2: being built. You only see the buildings, right.
32:04
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. It could be that it was some
32:06
Speaker 1: kind of plumbing, like a plumb old school plumbing system, right,
32:11
Speaker 1: and then it's not being used anymore and now it's
32:13
Speaker 1: like tunnels because water is no longer running through them, right,
32:19
Speaker 1: that's interesting and never really thought about it like that
32:22
Speaker 1: now when you're in Egypt, because the big question always is,
32:26
Speaker 1: you know, how is the pyramids built?
32:28
Speaker 2: What it was?
32:29
Speaker 1: It was it alien technology? Did you know it was
32:31
Speaker 1: a levitation? That was a frequency technology? You know? And
32:35
Speaker 1: I'm sure that the lot of the guides in Egypt
32:38
Speaker 1: always get to ask that question by people, you know, matter,
32:43
Speaker 1: how are these things built? What did they do? Like,
32:46
Speaker 1: there's no way that the bunch of slaves built these
32:48
Speaker 1: pyramids and that it was used for as a you know,
32:53
Speaker 1: a grave site or whatever that they call it for burial.
32:57
Speaker 1: It's not a burial chamber. And many people site that
33:01
Speaker 1: no bodies wherever, no mummies were ever found in the
33:05
Speaker 1: Great Pyramid. They're found in the Valley of the Kings.
33:10
Speaker 1: So what do they say to that question? Because I
33:15
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting because we have this really weird
33:19
Speaker 1: idea of like technology right in our modern day. We
33:24
Speaker 1: think that technology only relates to you know, technological machinery,
33:31
Speaker 1: but remote viewing is also a technology. Out of body
33:36
Speaker 1: experiences or astral travel is also considered a technology. I mean, hell,
33:42
Speaker 1: even MK ultra mind control is considered a technology.
33:46
Speaker 2: And this is.
33:49
Speaker 1: The technology fire is a technology, like so many things
33:52
Speaker 1: like spiritual abilities are like a technology. And this is
33:56
Speaker 1: the way that they play with words, right, which also
33:59
Speaker 1: relates to ufology as well, which we're going to get
34:02
Speaker 1: into here a little bit later. Like alien technology. Right, Well,
34:06
Speaker 1: we all assume when people say alien technology that they
34:10
Speaker 1: mean physical craft, like a physical UFO or UAP, because
34:16
Speaker 1: they don't really specify right now, but channeling an entity
34:22
Speaker 1: could also be considered a technology.
34:25
Speaker 2: All this this, this gets into what you were saying
34:27
Speaker 2: about astro projection. I mean from the ancient you know,
34:31
Speaker 2: ascended Tolku, masters of you know, Buddhist faith have been
34:35
Speaker 2: purported to be able to anthropomorphically shape shift into other
34:40
Speaker 2: beings or creatures, and so this in a sense could
34:46
Speaker 2: possibly be a way of astro projecting your consciousness into
34:49
Speaker 2: something else. We're doing that with telepresence with robotics right now,
34:54
Speaker 2: and so is it that far fetched? Not not at all.
34:58
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a telepresence robot on International Space
35:00
Speaker 2: Station to somebody at Langley or somebody and you know
35:04
Speaker 2: at at NASA, propers puts on the headgear and has
35:07
Speaker 2: full you know, autonomous mobility with that robot. As if
35:13
Speaker 2: they were there. I mean we do that now with
35:15
Speaker 2: all the VR you know drone activity. I mean you
35:19
Speaker 2: put on your veg R goggle and you're flying that
35:21
Speaker 2: drone just like you you would be in the you know,
35:24
Speaker 2: the cockpit of a of a of an aircraft, but
35:27
Speaker 2: you're not experiencing any of the g forces that that
35:30
Speaker 2: drone is going through or the whiplash. But your presence
35:34
Speaker 2: is there. You're guiding that from being physically there through
35:38
Speaker 2: camera and sensory perception.
35:39
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I mean Lim Buchanan, which was a
35:42
Speaker 1: part of the Stargate project, which is so interesting now
35:45
Speaker 1: that Trump.
35:46
Speaker 2: And brought that back up.
35:47
Speaker 1: They're doing the Stargate AI thing, which is another way
35:51
Speaker 1: to convolute and obfuscate the actual Stargate program, which was
35:56
Speaker 1: viewersh lim Buchanan talked about this technique it's called perfect
36:00
Speaker 1: Site integration, which was developed by Ingo Swan, and it's
36:04
Speaker 1: like the most advanced, one of the most advanced versions
36:08
Speaker 1: of remote viewing where you can literally remote view an
36:13
Speaker 1: area or a target and then influence the environment around you.
36:19
Speaker 1: So it's almost like by location, you're like by locating
36:23
Speaker 1: your physical body to another area.
36:26
Speaker 2: I have a weird experience with something like this, I
36:28
Speaker 2: call it bleedover. And so I could be having a
36:31
Speaker 2: conversation with somebody like you or somebody in general, where
36:34
Speaker 2: I'm physically president here in Portland, Oregon, but in my mind,
36:38
Speaker 2: I'm also at the exact same time walking through the
36:41
Speaker 2: streets of Katmandu, where I grew up, and I know
36:44
Speaker 2: exactly where I am. I'm walking by you know, the
36:46
Speaker 2: pot shop in Austental where you buy you know, aluminum
36:49
Speaker 2: pots and pans. I you know, I know exactly what
36:52
Speaker 2: street corner I'm on. Oh, I just walked by, you know,
36:54
Speaker 2: one of the buffalo is wandering down the street, and
36:57
Speaker 2: the guy and the guiding it, and it's it's almost
37:00
Speaker 2: as real. This is why I call it bleedover. As
37:03
Speaker 2: physically being here and having a conversation with you. It
37:06
Speaker 2: doesn't happen all the time, but it does. It does
37:09
Speaker 2: present itself, and I often get what I call, I
37:12
Speaker 2: would say, my deja vu moment where I start getting
37:15
Speaker 2: chicken skin on my arms. You know, I start getting
37:17
Speaker 2: the the when you get cold, you get chicken skin. Basically,
37:23
Speaker 2: I get this very sharp it's almost like fingernail polish
37:26
Speaker 2: or ozone. Smell and taste metallic in my mouth, and
37:31
Speaker 2: then I get a full body rush and at that moment,
37:34
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I've been here before. I know something's
37:36
Speaker 2: going to happen almost instantly. And so I've always called
37:39
Speaker 2: this like my deja vu moment because it's very physical,
37:43
Speaker 2: but it also has this you know, subliminal aspect to it.
37:47
Speaker 2: So that's that's interesting that that ego Swan had come
37:50
Speaker 2: up with this this format. So going back to your
37:53
Speaker 2: question about Egypt though, and how the pyramids are built.
37:56
Speaker 2: If you're actually standing there, you realize that none of
37:59
Speaker 2: them in the pyramid are the same size. They're not perfect.
38:03
Speaker 2: You know, there's gaps and spaces between them, and a
38:06
Speaker 2: lot of this. You know, there's been several earthquakes in
38:08
Speaker 2: the areas, so a lot of it has been because
38:10
Speaker 2: you know, the earthquakes have kind of rumbled part of
38:12
Speaker 2: it apart. But they're not perfect and they don't fit
38:15
Speaker 2: together perfectly. And I think this is intentionally designed, similar
38:19
Speaker 2: to you know, Roman soldiers walking across the bridge. If
38:22
Speaker 2: you all walk in lock step, that bridge is going
38:24
Speaker 2: to collapse underneath you because you're creating an amplified harmonic resonance,
38:28
Speaker 2: it's just going to tear the bridge apart. But if
38:30
Speaker 2: you're walking out of step or out of sync with
38:32
Speaker 2: each other, you're not You're not creating that ripple effect.
38:36
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of these ancient structures were
38:38
Speaker 2: built similarly, so they're not completely uniform in every way
38:42
Speaker 2: shape or form. That way, if there are earthquakes, they
38:46
Speaker 2: can survive them because that energy is being dissipated throughout
38:50
Speaker 2: smaller shapes or different size shapes within it, versus hitting
38:54
Speaker 2: each of the same block that's exactly the same shape
38:57
Speaker 2: over and over and over again, which would create this
38:59
Speaker 2: amplified rippleffe. And you see this in Peru, not a
39:02
Speaker 2: single one of the blocks except possibly if you're in
39:05
Speaker 2: Cusco with the Sacred Wall, not the Incarroco Wall, but
39:08
Speaker 2: the wall of Caricanta. All of those blocks are uniformly
39:13
Speaker 2: the same size. But if you look at everything else
39:15
Speaker 2: around Peru, oh my god, everything is that nothing matches.
39:19
Speaker 2: And part of this is because it's such an earthquake
39:22
Speaker 2: prone zone that that mismatch of shape would allow that
39:26
Speaker 2: energy to transfer through the objects without really affecting it.
39:29
Speaker 2: And so this this is the technology in its own
39:32
Speaker 2: How did the agents even know that. How did they
39:35
Speaker 2: realize how to build their structures that way so that
39:38
Speaker 2: they could be earthquake resistant or earthquake proof.
39:42
Speaker 1: So they're slightly off in order for it, because if
39:45
Speaker 1: it was built perfectly, it would probably collapse and be
39:52
Speaker 1: destroyed by some kind of natural disaster. So it's off
39:56
Speaker 1: in some places. They give it that wiggle room to
39:58
Speaker 1: where it'll stay ste right wild.
40:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's a knowledge that just doesn't come
40:08
Speaker 2: out of a hunter and gatherers sitting down to one day,
40:11
Speaker 2: you know, around the fire, we're gonna build the pyramids. Now,
40:14
Speaker 2: I mean this this takes mathematics and planning and you know,
40:18
Speaker 2: structural design from somewhere. I mean, you have to discover
40:22
Speaker 2: this technique somewhere. How would you do it building models?
40:25
Speaker 2: So good, good possibility, but but you know, hands on
40:29
Speaker 2: training within the field obviously is the way to do it.
40:32
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this, uh, this version of like
40:37
Speaker 1: technology is like it's so weird because we we use
40:41
Speaker 1: like double speak in a lot of the you know,
40:45
Speaker 1: buzzwords that we use in in the community. You know,
40:50
Speaker 1: like they play with words a lot, you know, like
40:53
Speaker 1: crash retrieval. Well, it doesn't matter when that supposed crash happened.
40:58
Speaker 1: It could have been last week, last year, or one
41:01
Speaker 1: hundred years ago. It would still be considered a crash retrieval. Right.
41:05
Speaker 1: And another term like alien, if you go into a country,
41:11
Speaker 1: another country that you're not a citizen of, you're considered
41:14
Speaker 1: an alien.
41:15
Speaker 2: Right.
41:15
Speaker 1: And when you break down the term extraterrestrial, it just
41:18
Speaker 1: means extra land, doesn't mean space aliens. So when you
41:21
Speaker 1: really have the community like screwed up in all kinds
41:24
Speaker 1: of ways, you know, you could look at it like never.
41:29
Speaker 2: Thought of I've never thought of extraterrestrial like that that
41:31
Speaker 2: you're spot on. That's really interesting.
41:35
Speaker 1: I mean, if you got it, like the alien invasion
41:38
Speaker 1: happened from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, right, and
41:43
Speaker 1: Trump is coming in and stopped them by deporting them
41:47
Speaker 1: back to extra land, extraterrestrials back to their extra land aliens.
41:56
Speaker 1: He's defeated aliens.
41:58
Speaker 2: Right, Wow, I've met Wow, I've never really put that together.
42:03
Speaker 2: That's and that's that's interesting because you know, even the
42:06
Speaker 2: English language itself is not perfect. And I'm always asked
42:09
Speaker 2: the question, why do you think spells are always in English?
42:12
Speaker 2: And I like because English is the dominant language, and
42:14
Speaker 2: so if you can cast a spell in English upon
42:18
Speaker 2: the masses, they're all going to understand that spell. And
42:21
Speaker 2: that spell can come visually, it can come through you know,
42:24
Speaker 2: audible or words, wordsmithing. I mean, how many words for
42:28
Speaker 2: the word two? Do we have? Two? Two? Two? And two? Right? Where? Where?
42:31
Speaker 2: And where? You know. So it's it's not a perfect language,
42:36
Speaker 2: but it's it's interesting because it was designed as a
42:38
Speaker 2: language to control the masses, and so English in itself
42:41
Speaker 2: is a spell. Everything is spelling. And it's interesting that
42:45
Speaker 2: you talk about aliens in that sense because especially in
42:50
Speaker 2: some of the older stories that I've been you know,
42:51
Speaker 2: doing my research and do like around the Drop of
42:53
Speaker 2: Stone and Drope up people, we're told that the dropis
42:57
Speaker 2: stones had an alien language on it. Well, was it
42:59
Speaker 2: an alien language or was it a foreign language that
43:01
Speaker 2: was unrecognizable, which therefore would be an alien language. And
43:06
Speaker 2: when you start, you know, digging into the research, you
43:09
Speaker 2: realize that the latter is the truth. It's an unrecognizable
43:12
Speaker 2: language of the region. Well, that's that's not necessarily extraterrestrial
43:16
Speaker 2: language or a you know, a language from the skies.
43:19
Speaker 2: It's it could be something that's regional that that the
43:21
Speaker 2: scholar researching the information.
43:23
Speaker 1: On it had no idea what it was.
43:25
Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was. But the fact
43:27
Speaker 2: that he could translate it over twenty years without an
43:30
Speaker 2: alien cipher means that it would have to be a
43:32
Speaker 2: regional language. So yeah, there's there's there's a lot around that.
43:37
Speaker 1: Well, it's masterful speaking, right, It's a free Masonic technology
43:42
Speaker 1: where you say two things at once and the listener
43:46
Speaker 1: creates the perception for them of what they're saying, but
43:50
Speaker 1: really they're saying and meaning something completely different.
43:54
Speaker 2: And this is the same. This isn't the same with symbology.
43:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it ties in with also revel or revelation
44:01
Speaker 1: of the method, you know, like you know, predictive programming,
44:06
Speaker 1: also with you know terms like national security threat that
44:12
Speaker 1: everyone loves to throw around in the community. It's it's
44:15
Speaker 1: not a threat because we don't know what they are,
44:17
Speaker 1: or that they're invading our airspace as a threat, because
44:20
Speaker 1: if other countries figure out the technology, then we're up
44:24
Speaker 1: shit's creek, right, That is, that's the excuse that the
44:28
Speaker 1: government always uses. Oh well, if we don't do it,
44:32
Speaker 1: someone else is going to do it. That's the whole
44:34
Speaker 1: reason why anything ever gets done, even when it's not
44:38
Speaker 1: in our best centrist to do it. That's the exact
44:40
Speaker 1: same excuse that Elon Musk and others are using to
44:44
Speaker 1: build this stargate super ultra mega AI.
44:47
Speaker 2: Right, Well, no nobody else can have the have the technology,
44:50
Speaker 2: but these five companies that we happen to own. Because
44:53
Speaker 2: when AI was first perceived, obviously the notion that came
44:57
Speaker 2: with it was whatever nation controls this controls the world.
45:00
Speaker 2: So if we can shut down all these independent open
45:02
Speaker 2: source you know, active AI you know developers in a sense,
45:08
Speaker 2: then we control We control all that. We control the programming,
45:12
Speaker 2: and even if it's open source, you better believe there's
45:14
Speaker 2: a backdoor built into that. I'm sorry, there just is.
45:18
Speaker 1: That's right, and then that's proven in the Octopus Danny
45:22
Speaker 1: Castelero Octopus story. That's what they were doing with the
45:25
Speaker 1: promised software back in the eighties. Like they would, they
45:28
Speaker 1: created this database of uh, you know, this criminal database
45:32
Speaker 1: and stuff like tracking and everything, and then they sold
45:34
Speaker 1: it to other countries and then they put a back
45:37
Speaker 1: door into that technology, so then they could effectively spy
45:40
Speaker 1: on every single country that bought the technology that's monetize it.
45:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other half of it, is monetization.
45:49
Speaker 1: And so yeah, you know, it's always if we don't
45:52
Speaker 1: do it, China's going to do it. Russia's going to
45:56
Speaker 1: do it, you know, and you might as well just
45:59
Speaker 1: you know, tack on the social credit score and the
46:01
Speaker 1: digital idea. Why you're at it if you want to
46:03
Speaker 1: be like China, you know. And also that's the exact
46:07
Speaker 1: excuse that they used for the Stargate remove viewing unit
46:13
Speaker 1: for me too, was because they didn't want Russia getting
46:17
Speaker 1: the upper hand because they found out that the Soviets
46:22
Speaker 1: were using.
46:22
Speaker 2: The Deep into It, Deep Into It, Yeah.
46:25
Speaker 1: To collect intelligence data on the US. Right, it's the
46:29
Speaker 1: same it's the same thing, it's the same ship. But
46:31
Speaker 1: now it's we have to develop this Ultra mega super
46:36
Speaker 1: AI mega computer before China does, Right.
46:44
Speaker 2: Why can't? I mean, we're we're at a point, you know,
46:47
Speaker 2: it's it's twenty twenty five. Are we really still living,
46:50
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred years in the past. I mean,
46:52
Speaker 2: we we have the infrastructure, we have the finances, we
46:55
Speaker 2: have the technology to solve a lot of the problems
46:59
Speaker 2: that this planet is had, But we choose not to,
47:01
Speaker 2: and it's it's not a collective choice. Obviously, there's people
47:04
Speaker 2: at the top of those pyramids making those decisions. You know,
47:09
Speaker 2: wef groups like this that just they want us to
47:12
Speaker 2: all be gone because then they have access to more
47:14
Speaker 2: in the resources, versus finding a way that we can
47:17
Speaker 2: actually solve a lot of these problems and share the
47:19
Speaker 2: resources and come out of this much stronger and much
47:22
Speaker 2: better as a global population. Nothing to do with globalism
47:25
Speaker 2: or globalists, but a global population that seems to get
47:28
Speaker 2: along a lot better. We have a you know, global systems.
47:32
Speaker 2: Music is a global system. Bands too, are all over
47:34
Speaker 2: the world, are popular everywhere. The Internet is a global system.
47:38
Speaker 2: I'm having a communication with you several thousand, you know,
47:41
Speaker 2: one thousand miles away from you or more, and we're
47:44
Speaker 2: you know, we're able to talk this way. Well, in
47:45
Speaker 2: the past, we weren't able to do this. You had
47:47
Speaker 2: to send a letter and that letter would take two
47:49
Speaker 2: to three to four weeks to get to somebody. And
47:51
Speaker 2: then you've got to craft a you know, a nifty
47:54
Speaker 2: reply and send it back and you know what would
47:57
Speaker 2: take a second and a half between two emails, literally
48:01
Speaker 2: is a two month process. And so we're in a play.
48:05
Speaker 2: I mean, even transportation is a global system. I can
48:09
Speaker 2: get on a plane here in Portland and end up
48:11
Speaker 2: in South Africa, or end up in Reikievic in Iceland,
48:15
Speaker 2: or you know, end up anywhere in the world that
48:16
Speaker 2: I want, as long as I have the money and
48:17
Speaker 2: the ability to go there. Same a train system, same
48:20
Speaker 2: with cars. And so we have all these global systems
48:24
Speaker 2: already in play. The question is why can't we utilize
48:28
Speaker 2: them for the best result for all of us, so
48:32
Speaker 2: that you know, we're not all sitting in a struggle
48:36
Speaker 2: trying to create the systems that we have. You know, yeah,
48:42
Speaker 2: like I think Jay Weidner said it our cell phone.
48:44
Speaker 2: You know how many people go into making this thing.
48:46
Speaker 2: There's ten thousand people globally that make one cell phone
48:50
Speaker 2: because of all the parts, the mining, everything that goes
48:52
Speaker 2: into the operation of making your cell phone. And so
48:56
Speaker 2: this is a global operation of sorts. We should be
48:59
Speaker 2: at a better place in time where we're not constantly
49:02
Speaker 2: having to get into war, We're not constantly having to
49:04
Speaker 2: crouse you know, strife and displacement for other for other nationalities,
49:08
Speaker 2: including ourselves. We could kick you know, kick the ball
49:12
Speaker 2: of poverty down down the hill and survive all of that.
49:16
Speaker 2: We have it. I mean, what what do these billionaires
49:19
Speaker 2: need all their money for. They can't take it with them.
49:22
Speaker 2: You know, they can reinvest it in the infrastructures that work,
49:24
Speaker 2: but they don't. They choose not to. And it's just
49:27
Speaker 2: they just they're looking for, you know, the best return
49:29
Speaker 2: on their bottom dollar. And it's it's mind bottling. I mean,
49:32
Speaker 2: what could you do with two hundred and eighty billion dollars?
49:35
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I don't even think it's so much
49:39
Speaker 1: about money. It's about control, right, That's why war torn
49:43
Speaker 1: countries still exists. That's why poverty still exists, because there's
49:47
Speaker 1: money to be made off of those people. And if
49:50
Speaker 1: everything was you know, happy in fairy tales and everywhere
49:55
Speaker 1: was the same, then borrows other people. Well, not even that,
50:00
Speaker 1: it's that those other countries and those other people could
50:05
Speaker 1: then become independent. They don't have to be a part
50:09
Speaker 1: of anything. They could rise up through the ranks, right,
50:15
Speaker 1: So they have to keep people down on the totem pole,
50:17
Speaker 1: and the way that they do that is through fear
50:20
Speaker 1: and through propaganda and through all the things that they do.
50:23
Speaker 1: And I think they they think that that structure is
50:26
Speaker 1: going to last forever, and I don't think that it
50:29
Speaker 1: can because I think that at some point people are
50:32
Speaker 1: going to be back so far into a corner. I
50:35
Speaker 1: think it's a travesty that, you know, war torn countries
50:40
Speaker 1: still exist in this day. It's wild.
50:45
Speaker 2: It's like we got two steps forward and then we
50:47
Speaker 2: pulled the rug out from them. We saw them on
50:49
Speaker 2: the branch that were standing on. It's like, why were
50:52
Speaker 2: we were in such a good place and then everything
50:55
Speaker 2: just collapsed again? Because I missed George carl and I
51:00
Speaker 2: love his jokes. Won't repeat him here, but he's like,
51:04
Speaker 2: what they've got bigger members bomb down?
51:06
Speaker 1: You know, that's right. I mean, it's it's well the
51:15
Speaker 1: thing that we live in the United States, and like,
51:18
Speaker 1: there's other countries that are existing right now that are
51:23
Speaker 1: just in the worst possible shape ever. What is what
51:28
Speaker 1: is Mexico like? Because you've been to Mexico and I
51:31
Speaker 1: was just thinking about this yesterday, Hans. I was like,
51:35
Speaker 1: why do we not get any information from Mexico. Why
51:39
Speaker 1: do we not hear about the Mexican military? Why do
51:42
Speaker 1: we not hear about anything about the Mexican government. I
51:45
Speaker 1: have never heard one thing in my life about the
51:52
Speaker 1: Mexican military.
51:53
Speaker 2: All you hear is about the cartels. Yeah, that's very
51:55
Speaker 2: interesting that you say that. It's like cartel, cartel, cartel.
51:58
Speaker 2: Oh there's this new person in power. We know nothing
52:00
Speaker 2: about her. Okay, cartel, cartel or you know, coyotes running
52:04
Speaker 2: the border or this, that and the other thing. Yeah,
52:07
Speaker 2: I've been in Mexico twice. Now. I went a couple
52:10
Speaker 2: years ago with my girlfriend. We went to Porto Vireta
52:12
Speaker 2: and then drove north to Sayulita, and then north of
52:15
Speaker 2: that to this little tiny hole in the wall fishing
52:18
Speaker 2: village called Plia Platinitos. It's super beautiful. There's an amazing
52:21
Speaker 2: yoga shalla there and these million dollar airbnbs that are
52:26
Speaker 2: hidden from the main road. And you got to wonder
52:29
Speaker 2: who owns these, you know, because this is all you
52:31
Speaker 2: know MS thirteen and and and some of the other
52:36
Speaker 2: gang territories up there. And you see the science all
52:38
Speaker 2: over the road. You know, don't stop for anybody. MS thirteen, this,
52:41
Speaker 2: that and the other thing. And so it's very obvious
52:43
Speaker 2: that the government's trying to do something about it. But
52:46
Speaker 2: here you are in this little tiny fishing village. You know,
52:48
Speaker 2: there's five restaurants and a little cantina and then a
52:52
Speaker 2: little you know, local pasl or shop where you can
52:54
Speaker 2: buy some medical supplies and maybe some you know, going
52:57
Speaker 2: bat milk or orange juice or something. But that there's
53:00
Speaker 2: nothing else there and you're three hours from puort of Aarita,
53:03
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere. But it was so beautiful there.
53:06
Speaker 2: It was so amazing to wake up in the morning
53:08
Speaker 2: and just hear the ocean come in. And I got
53:11
Speaker 2: sicker than a dog. You know, I've grown up in Asia,
53:13
Speaker 2: I've been sick. Let me tell you. I had dysentery, jaradia,
53:16
Speaker 2: food poisoning, you name it. I was so sick from
53:19
Speaker 2: whatever we ate. It was unbelievable. And what saved me
53:23
Speaker 2: was we bought some unpasteurized milk at the organic store
53:27
Speaker 2: in Port of Areta and then made that into kafir,
53:30
Speaker 2: and the kaffir totally settled my stomach. I was able
53:33
Speaker 2: to rehydrate myself and it was amazing and I just
53:37
Speaker 2: I thoroughly enjoyed that experience. But there's not a lot
53:40
Speaker 2: of ancient sites in that area, and so I went
53:43
Speaker 2: down there at the end of March with a grand
53:45
Speaker 2: Master Timothy Hogan and the Templar Tours. We did a
53:49
Speaker 2: quick five day tour of around Cancun down south to
53:53
Speaker 2: Tuloom knock Mall in the middle of the jungle, which
53:56
Speaker 2: was one of one of the most amazing sights I've seen.
53:59
Speaker 2: Down to Cheats Nizza to see some of the chisanita
54:02
Speaker 2: and some of the sonotes, and just going there opened
54:06
Speaker 2: my mind to so much more. I've always been fascinated
54:08
Speaker 2: by the Olemech culture. I've always been fascinated by the
54:10
Speaker 2: Aztec and the Mayan cultures, but primarily the Olemec cultures,
54:14
Speaker 2: and so seeing the Mayan culture firsthand was even more
54:18
Speaker 2: mind blowing because here you have these pyramidical structures. They're
54:21
Speaker 2: built next to, around and over these ancient snotes. So
54:24
Speaker 2: here you have the underground water structures again that stretch,
54:29
Speaker 2: you know, throughout lay lines underneath the ground as well.
54:33
Speaker 2: And seeing something like Knockball in the middle of the jungle,
54:37
Speaker 2: it's like you can see how the jungle has grown
54:39
Speaker 2: over the ancient Mayan road, because it's very obvious that
54:43
Speaker 2: there was I don't want to say paved, but it was.
54:45
Speaker 2: It's a bordered cobblestone road that stretches for miles and
54:48
Speaker 2: miles and miles and connects all these sites, but the
54:51
Speaker 2: jungle has literally grown over it. You get to see
54:53
Speaker 2: some of the ancient ball courts. The one that Chiittsanita
54:56
Speaker 2: is interesting because it's it's huge. The hoops are you know,
55:00
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty feet in the air and all the walls
55:02
Speaker 2: are completely straight. Butt At Knack Mall, there are two
55:07
Speaker 2: courts there and they have angular sloping walls with the
55:11
Speaker 2: with the rings that they would you know, shoulder the
55:14
Speaker 2: balls through because you couldn't use your hands or your feet.
55:16
Speaker 2: So it was like all knee work, chest work, boulder work.
55:20
Speaker 2: Seems like a next two impossible game. I would love
55:22
Speaker 2: to see how they were playing it and why it
55:24
Speaker 2: doesn't make them with sport today. But yeah, now seeing
55:27
Speaker 2: some of these ancient sites there really blew my mind
55:30
Speaker 2: to loom was amazing. There were just too many tourists there.
55:32
Speaker 2: I mean there were I want to say there were
55:34
Speaker 2: four thousand tourists there when they were there. And so
55:37
Speaker 2: you're on a quick tour group, they usher you through
55:39
Speaker 2: those sites so quickly and you don't really have time
55:41
Speaker 2: to stop and explore and actually see some of the
55:45
Speaker 2: areas like you would at a site like Karnak, where
55:47
Speaker 2: you're given four or five hours. The one around Karnak,
55:50
Speaker 2: you're still only going to see like a small portion
55:52
Speaker 2: of it, but you get you get to experience more
55:54
Speaker 2: of it. The other site that really blew my mind
55:57
Speaker 2: was Titsanitza because it's huge and they only show you
56:01
Speaker 2: a very small portion of it. There's so much of
56:03
Speaker 2: it that stretches into the jungles. There's a sacred scene
56:05
Speaker 2: out there there. If you go past where the observatory is,
56:09
Speaker 2: which is so far the only rounded building that they've
56:12
Speaker 2: found there, there's another temple structure buried in the jungle
56:16
Speaker 2: and Tim we left our group and Tim puk us
56:19
Speaker 2: over there because this is where there's an evidence of,
56:22
Speaker 2: you know, templar, the templars coming in the twelve hundreds.
56:27
Speaker 2: There's evidence all over the Mayan culture that they came
56:30
Speaker 2: along before Christoval de Cologne and his band of Mary pirates,
56:36
Speaker 2: who supposedly discovered the America's Christopher Columbus it's not his name,
56:40
Speaker 2: but anyway, there's evidence that the templars had come over
56:44
Speaker 2: along before that. But there's also evidence of other cultures.
56:47
Speaker 2: And so this one temple that we were shown on
56:50
Speaker 2: all four corners of the temple are elephant reliefs. Okay, elephants.
56:56
Speaker 2: There's no elephants in South central or North America. There
57:00
Speaker 2: were mammoths, but how long ago was that? Right? And
57:03
Speaker 2: so why are their elephant reliefs on the side of
57:05
Speaker 2: these buildings? And then the temple behind it, over the
57:09
Speaker 2: front lintel of it is a man or a character
57:14
Speaker 2: man mostly a character sitting in lotus position. So here
57:18
Speaker 2: you have a Buddhist artifact in the middle of the
57:22
Speaker 2: Mayan culture. And so this baggers the question if the
57:25
Speaker 2: Mayans are, you know, an offshoot of what we would
57:28
Speaker 2: call the time of Atlantis. I don't call it a place.
57:30
Speaker 2: I call it a time. And as we know from
57:33
Speaker 2: Plato's accounts, it was a globalized civilization. There wasn't just
57:37
Speaker 2: one city or one island that sunk. There were five capitals,
57:41
Speaker 2: and they were not just in the Atlantic Ocean. There
57:44
Speaker 2: was Posidia and all these other things. A dark journalist
57:48
Speaker 2: gets into this a lot in some of his hot
57:50
Speaker 2: zone stuff, as well as where some of these cities
57:53
Speaker 2: might have been located. But here you have the Mayan culture,
57:56
Speaker 2: which was a huge offshoot of Posidia. And so if
57:59
Speaker 2: this was a globalized culture, you would have been sharing
58:04
Speaker 2: like we do today, you know, the fruits of globalization, knowledge, livestock,
58:11
Speaker 2: different food groups. You go to Peru, they have what
58:14
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty different types of corn, twenty five thirty
58:17
Speaker 2: different types of potato, depending on what elevation you live in.
58:21
Speaker 2: This was how they would trade and you would come
58:24
Speaker 2: to them and they would say, well, how high above
58:26
Speaker 2: sea level are you. Oh, well you need this type
58:28
Speaker 2: of corn or oh you need this type of potato
58:31
Speaker 2: or this type of quinoa that will grow very well
58:33
Speaker 2: in your environment. And so they would grow these things
58:35
Speaker 2: the different trophic levels as a means of trade. And
58:39
Speaker 2: so I feel that the omes there's a big possibility
58:43
Speaker 2: that the Omecs were an offshoot of the Calm or
58:47
Speaker 2: calm culture of South Asia. We find calm evidence in
58:52
Speaker 2: Iran all the way through Asia, all the way through Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal,
58:58
Speaker 2: into Tibet, into Cambodia to Thailand, all the way down
59:01
Speaker 2: into Indonesia. This could be an offshoot of the Kem
59:05
Speaker 2: or you know, Commisian culture of ancient Egypt, which is
59:08
Speaker 2: Egypt interesting because most of what we've learned of Egypt
59:11
Speaker 2: comes from the Greeks after the Greeks conquered Egypt and
59:14
Speaker 2: the three hundred PC era, I mean, pretty much the
59:17
Speaker 2: history that we're taught of Egypt is their history of Egypt.
59:20
Speaker 2: And Egypt is even a misconstrued name. It comes from
59:23
Speaker 2: the word hepka Ptah, which was written on a stile
59:27
Speaker 2: in the city of Memphis. Memphis is a Greek name,
59:29
Speaker 2: so it was men in the fir, which meant the
59:31
Speaker 2: harmony of fertility. Because of where it's located, it's Cairo.
59:35
Speaker 2: It's right there at the Nia delta, so this is
59:38
Speaker 2: the you know, the bread basket of fertility right there
59:42
Speaker 2: for northern Egypt. And the Greeks were taken to this
59:46
Speaker 2: temple structure and on the stile they were told it
59:49
Speaker 2: said hepca peta. Well, hep ka Pata means the place
59:54
Speaker 2: where this body double or physical body of Patah, the
59:58
Speaker 2: Creator manifests. The kau is your physical double. If you're
1:00:03
Speaker 2: in a state of astral projection or lucid dreaming and
1:00:07
Speaker 2: you find yourself on the ceiling of your living room
1:00:10
Speaker 2: while you're passed out on the couch. You're physically energetically
1:00:13
Speaker 2: in that form on the ceiling in the living room,
1:00:16
Speaker 2: but you're also physically and energetically laying on the couch
1:00:18
Speaker 2: and you're looking down on yourself on the couch. Well,
1:00:21
Speaker 2: that's your ca it's your body double in a sense,
1:00:26
Speaker 2: where you floating around the ceiling would be your ba.
1:00:28
Speaker 2: And so the Greeks heard Hecoptos, and this is where
1:00:31
Speaker 2: we get the word coptic from. Well, Coptic just means
1:00:35
Speaker 2: cop aitah all over again. So it's the physical body
1:00:38
Speaker 2: of the Creator. And it's interesting because the Coptics, these,
1:00:42
Speaker 2: you know, were the Christians before Christ. Well, Christ is
1:00:47
Speaker 2: another word that comes from the Greeks, obviously, so do
1:00:49
Speaker 2: a lot of our biblical studies. Coptic. Basically, Christ comes
1:00:55
Speaker 2: from the word cristos, which means anointed. So the Coptic
1:00:58
Speaker 2: Christians were the anointed followers of the physical body of
1:01:01
Speaker 2: the creators. It had nothing to do with this Yeshua
1:01:04
Speaker 2: character at all. You know, it predates him by a
1:01:06
Speaker 2: thousand years. And so again all of our history is
1:01:10
Speaker 2: kind of misconstrued. It all ends up in these different aspects.
1:01:13
Speaker 2: But from Heka Patar Hepkoptos. The Greeks changed that to Egyptos,
1:01:18
Speaker 2: which then became Egypt And so instead of just being
1:01:22
Speaker 2: this temple for Patah, they sought as the entirety of
1:01:26
Speaker 2: the land. And when they conquered the land, it was
1:01:28
Speaker 2: a lot smaller than it had previously been. But the
1:01:31
Speaker 2: commission Empire stretched all the way from the Atlantic across
1:01:35
Speaker 2: pretty much to the Pacific, or to the Red Sea,
1:01:39
Speaker 2: through Ethiopia, Sudan and Mali, and all these areas, all
1:01:45
Speaker 2: the way up to Morocco, across Libya, and all the
1:01:47
Speaker 2: way pretty much into the Levant. This was all the
1:01:50
Speaker 2: ancient Commisian lands. And it's interesting that the Commisian lands
1:01:54
Speaker 2: also sound a lot like the Phoenician lands, so you
1:01:57
Speaker 2: have a transliteration aspectacle going there. And the Phoenicians called
1:02:02
Speaker 2: that whole fertile crescent around the Mediterranean. They called this
1:02:06
Speaker 2: area Sidonia. And this is really interesting because this is
1:02:09
Speaker 2: what we named the area on Mars where you find
1:02:13
Speaker 2: all of the pyramids, the DNM Pyramid, the five Sided Pyramid,
1:02:16
Speaker 2: and the face on Mars. Well, what do we find
1:02:18
Speaker 2: in Sidonia on Earth? Well, we find all the pyramids
1:02:21
Speaker 2: of Giza and the Sphinx, but this was this was
1:02:25
Speaker 2: that this is what that area was called, was Sidonia.
1:02:29
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because the word Cairo comes from a chair,
1:02:33
Speaker 2: which means basically the city of war or the city
1:02:37
Speaker 2: of Mars, and so why is why is Cairo named
1:02:39
Speaker 2: after Mars? And so there's there's an interesting aspect there.
1:02:44
Speaker 2: But a lot of our history comes out of the Greeks. Anyway, Yeah, sorry,
1:02:48
Speaker 2: go on.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get into the Vermanos and the Bargita,
1:02:54
Speaker 1: it talks about that. The well, I guess it's kind
1:02:58
Speaker 1: of supposed that they went to Mars, like a group
1:03:00
Speaker 1: of individuals went to Mars and then they for the
1:03:04
Speaker 1: escape a great cataclysm, and then they came back from
1:03:07
Speaker 1: Mars and then they saw the people ever survived this cataclysm.
1:03:13
Speaker 2: This is part of the Mahabrata, which is the eighteen
1:03:16
Speaker 2: day War once they had returned. Basically, that was the
1:03:19
Speaker 2: great war that happened. But it's also found in the
1:03:22
Speaker 2: Vedas and the Prona Vedas. Jay Widner talks a lot
1:03:24
Speaker 2: about this as well. They went to a place there's
1:03:27
Speaker 2: two names to it, but the first name of it
1:03:30
Speaker 2: is called Mahar and they were escaping the outburst from
1:03:34
Speaker 2: the Sun. Well, Mahar in the Vedas is described as
1:03:37
Speaker 2: the fourth density from the Sun. Well that's Mars. You know,
1:03:40
Speaker 2: if we're talking about planets, it's a density. And so
1:03:44
Speaker 2: they ended up going there, stayed there for several millennia.
1:03:47
Speaker 2: Their skin color changed to this bluish white, you know,
1:03:50
Speaker 2: an alchemical blue or smurf blue if you're eating too
1:03:53
Speaker 2: much coidal silver. They grew in height, they had more
1:03:57
Speaker 2: of an auburn hair, their eye color chain because of
1:04:00
Speaker 2: the lighting, you know, on this ancient planet. Was their
1:04:04
Speaker 2: life on this planet back then? Well that's interesting because
1:04:08
Speaker 2: you know we're now finding water on Mars. Well, ever
1:04:11
Speaker 2: since we started going to Mars, we found water. If
1:04:14
Speaker 2: you read the Viking reports from nineteen seventy five, they
1:04:17
Speaker 2: found not only water, but the possibility that there was
1:04:21
Speaker 2: bacteria reaction in one of their tests. So not only
1:04:24
Speaker 2: did they find water, but they found life. And as
1:04:27
Speaker 2: Carl Sagan always said, if we find one ounce of
1:04:29
Speaker 2: bacteria outside of you know, Earth's magnetosphere, then the entire
1:04:34
Speaker 2: year versus teeming with life, which of course it is.
1:04:38
Speaker 2: I mean, we're foolish to think that we're the only
1:04:40
Speaker 2: life out there. Look at how many billions of species
1:04:43
Speaker 2: exist on this planet alone, you know, not just humans.
1:04:47
Speaker 2: I mean we've got things we're e discovering that are
1:04:50
Speaker 2: microscopic and we.
1:04:57
Speaker 1: You're freezing up ponds.
1:05:00
Speaker 2: Any of it. Oh, it just frowze up again.
1:05:05
Speaker 1: Freezing up.
1:05:06
Speaker 2: They don't like what we're talking about.
1:05:09
Speaker 1: Gremlin's goddess. I mean, where are they though? Right? If
1:05:18
Speaker 1: the universe is so teeming with life and you know,
1:05:21
Speaker 1: this is a lot of respect, right, aunt of I'm
1:05:23
Speaker 1: asking the question out of respect, where are they question?
1:05:32
Speaker 2: Would we have the ability to fund well? I mean
1:05:38
Speaker 2: our eyesight is very limited. We only can see about
1:05:40
Speaker 2: two dpi, which is less than our HD. You know,
1:05:44
Speaker 2: high definition LED monitors are projecting at us. We don't.
1:05:47
Speaker 2: We don't have the rods and the cones. Just see's
1:05:58
Speaker 2: ability to look at a planetary system or a star
1:06:00
Speaker 2: and figure out what its composition is. But now that
1:06:04
Speaker 2: that's accurate, how much space debris and dust and rocks
1:06:07
Speaker 2: and comets and asteroids and asteroid belts between us, the
1:06:12
Speaker 2: orc cloud even between us? And seeing the light coming
1:06:15
Speaker 2: off of a planet in another solar system? Oh, this
1:06:19
Speaker 2: planet is all water? How do we know that? You
1:06:21
Speaker 2: know it's the same question I always ask when NASA
1:06:23
Speaker 2: puts out these wonderful photos that show the supposed Milky
1:06:26
Speaker 2: Way galaxy and it says, you are here, Well, really,
1:06:29
Speaker 2: where's camera? Who's observing that we're there? We don't have
1:06:34
Speaker 2: any idea where we are in our own galaxy or
1:06:37
Speaker 2: our own universe because we cannot try, and you let
1:06:39
Speaker 2: ourselves and so.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: Try and where are they? Can you just exit out
1:06:50
Speaker 1: real quick and then come back into the studio and
1:06:53
Speaker 1: maybe that'll fix up some of the glitching.
1:06:55
Speaker 2: Problem because you're okay, I might try and stuck.
1:07:04
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick him from the studio really quickly because
1:07:09
Speaker 1: he was breaking up really bad there. Scotty Boy says,
1:07:15
Speaker 1: I can see a auroras bad. Today's level is gray,
1:07:20
Speaker 1: not so much colors. Yeah, I've seen some auroras around
1:07:24
Speaker 1: people as well. I've seen some red ones and I've
1:07:26
Speaker 1: seen some purple ones. Seen a purple one radiating off
1:07:30
Speaker 1: of some people at a conference once, not like a
1:07:35
Speaker 1: UFO conference or anything, but like a It was like
1:07:38
Speaker 1: a lecture and I seen it, Uh like this purple
1:07:46
Speaker 1: raw just wash over the entire group of people. I
1:07:51
Speaker 1: think I've seen a yellow one one time as well.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him for a really long time though, Walter,
1:07:58
Speaker 1: what's up brother, Good to see you, my friend. Thanks
1:08:01
Speaker 1: for jumping in. You're back. Can you hear me?
1:08:08
Speaker 2: That's works the letter. I turned the definition on my
1:08:11
Speaker 2: camera down. Thank you, Walter. Excellent topics to you on that.
1:08:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we were in the middle of a discussing.
1:08:19
Speaker 1: You know, where where are they? You broke up? Really
1:08:22
Speaker 1: they're really bad. So if you want to go back
1:08:24
Speaker 1: on that. And because I think it's kind of a
1:08:28
Speaker 1: hypothetical question, we only see, you know.
1:08:31
Speaker 2: How how would we how would we know? Because we
1:08:34
Speaker 2: only see about two hundred DEPI. That's that's all over
1:08:36
Speaker 2: the rods and cones in our eyes allow us to see.
1:08:39
Speaker 2: We're using these high definition TVs and LED screens and
1:08:42
Speaker 2: all of our devices that projected us at twelve hundred dpi.
1:08:44
Speaker 2: We can't even see that. So, you know, it looks
1:08:47
Speaker 2: it looks nice and crisp, But our eyes can only
1:08:50
Speaker 2: see so much. And we have all this great technology
1:08:53
Speaker 2: now like the Web, you know, the Web, Telescope and Hubble, Google,
1:08:58
Speaker 2: and we're able to see into the basin of the universe,
1:09:00
Speaker 2: But what actually are we looking at and what are
1:09:02
Speaker 2: we looking for. I mean, what would be the signature
1:09:05
Speaker 2: of a type one or Type two or type three
1:09:07
Speaker 2: civilization When we're not even there ourselves, How would we
1:09:11
Speaker 2: know what we're looking at or what we're looking for?
1:09:14
Speaker 2: When we start looking at other planets around other suns.
1:09:18
Speaker 2: We have this way of using refraction of light to say, oh,
1:09:21
Speaker 2: the atmosphere is made up of diamond, or it's made
1:09:24
Speaker 2: up of pure water, or you know, there's hydrogen and
1:09:27
Speaker 2: there's other compounds here, just from the red, green, and
1:09:30
Speaker 2: blue flicker that comes to us across the vastness of
1:09:34
Speaker 2: interstellar space. Well, how much space debris is in between us?
1:09:38
Speaker 2: Is space fluidic? How much dark matter is causing a
1:09:42
Speaker 2: refraction or a displacement of what we're looking at? You know,
1:09:46
Speaker 2: how much dust is out there? How many asteroids asteroid
1:09:49
Speaker 2: built the Orc Cloud? I mean, when we see projections
1:09:52
Speaker 2: of what the Oort cloud looks around our Sun, how
1:09:54
Speaker 2: are we even able to see through it? You know,
1:09:56
Speaker 2: it's like this big white bubble around around our Sun.
1:10:00
Speaker 2: It's way out pass Pluto, and as you know, hundreds
1:10:03
Speaker 2: of thousands of billions of miles stick and so it's like, what,
1:10:06
Speaker 2: how do we actually see what we're seeing through all
1:10:10
Speaker 2: of that and accurately be able to say, oh, this
1:10:13
Speaker 2: is a water bearing planet around x y z Sun
1:10:16
Speaker 2: out there, that's you know, a hundred light years away.
1:10:19
Speaker 2: How do we even know that? We don't. We have
1:10:21
Speaker 2: no way of knowing that. It's the same as when
1:10:23
Speaker 2: NASA and other you know, scientific groups put out the
1:10:26
Speaker 2: picture of our galaxy, which we don't even see. We
1:10:29
Speaker 2: don't even know if we're in one. And there's that
1:10:32
Speaker 2: arrow that points to the to the outer ring of
1:10:34
Speaker 2: one of the the arms and it says you are here. Well,
1:10:37
Speaker 2: it beggars the question, where is camera? You know, we
1:10:40
Speaker 2: can't even triangulate where we are in our own existence,
1:10:44
Speaker 2: So how do we know what we're looking for outside
1:10:46
Speaker 2: of our own existence? How do we know what the
1:10:48
Speaker 2: signatures of life on another planet would even look like?
1:10:53
Speaker 1: Well, I guess we would be thinking that they're similar
1:10:55
Speaker 1: to ours. I just think that it's interesting. And you know,
1:11:01
Speaker 1: there's really no data, Like if you were to go
1:11:03
Speaker 1: to court and try and improve that the that extraterrestrials exist,
1:11:09
Speaker 1: you couldn't. No, you couldn't do it. Like really, all
1:11:13
Speaker 1: that we have is like eye witness testimony. And that's
1:11:17
Speaker 1: not me saying that these people didn't see something, right,
1:11:19
Speaker 1: But of course there's a phenomenon, there's something going on.
1:11:23
Speaker 1: But to say and that it's extraterrestrial, you can't prove it.
1:11:29
Speaker 1: There's no data to back that these are entities or
1:11:34
Speaker 1: some kind of physical being coming here from space or
1:11:37
Speaker 1: from another planet. Now, if they do exist and life,
1:11:42
Speaker 1: physical life as we know it exists on other planets,
1:11:49
Speaker 1: I actually like the idea that they are able to
1:11:54
Speaker 1: bylocate into this reality onto our planet, right, so they
1:12:01
Speaker 1: don't actually again, if they exist, they actually don't physically
1:12:07
Speaker 1: leave where they are. They by locate here in some
1:12:13
Speaker 1: kind of holographic technology, and then we get a little
1:12:17
Speaker 1: bit of snippet of that. That's why they're able to
1:12:21
Speaker 1: disappear and reappear and do whatever it is that they
1:12:23
Speaker 1: want because they're not really physically here. It's kind of
1:12:26
Speaker 1: like what we were talking about earlier with Lim Buchannan
1:12:29
Speaker 1: in this perfect site integration where you can remove view
1:12:32
Speaker 1: an area and like basically replicate your body and interact
1:12:39
Speaker 1: with the environment while you're there. You can like you know,
1:12:43
Speaker 1: change things while you're in this remote viewing state. So
1:12:47
Speaker 1: the even more advanced version of that would be able
1:12:51
Speaker 1: to by locate and entire like a craft if you
1:12:58
Speaker 1: wanted to or turn your we're body into a craft.
1:13:02
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of people think that a
1:13:04
Speaker 1: lot of these crafts are you know, physical entities. That's
1:13:08
Speaker 1: what Kenneth Arnold later on turned his theory and hypothesis
1:13:14
Speaker 1: into was that they the crafts were living entities, that
1:13:18
Speaker 1: they were like plasma type jellyfish craft and they were
1:13:23
Speaker 1: like a living life form. But I think that makes
1:13:27
Speaker 1: more sense to me that if they exist, they're not
1:13:30
Speaker 1: traveling across space time. They're just able to bilocate a
1:13:36
Speaker 1: version of what they are temporarily to our planet.
1:13:43
Speaker 2: Interesting you say that because in my thesis study in college,
1:13:47
Speaker 2: I studied Buddhist cultural mysticism, ancient art, and architecture, and
1:13:51
Speaker 2: I primarily was focused around Bhutan because in Bhutan they
1:13:54
Speaker 2: have a very rare sect of Buddhism called Ningma Pab Buddhism.
1:13:57
Speaker 2: This is where we get all the stories of limitation,
1:13:59
Speaker 2: lemated monks, stroll projection, send to Tolku masters, the dimensional
1:14:05
Speaker 2: portals of Mount Meru connected to Sirius by a rainbow bridge.
1:14:09
Speaker 2: I mean this all comes out of this very specific
1:14:12
Speaker 2: sect of Buddhism. And when you start looking into the
1:14:16
Speaker 2: stories of astral projection, they're talking literally about this, this
1:14:19
Speaker 2: bilocational aspect. In the blink of an eye, they can
1:14:22
Speaker 2: cross the dimensions of time to other realms, planets, suns, galaxies,
1:14:27
Speaker 2: so universes in a sense. And so, well, what is
1:14:31
Speaker 2: that Is that your physical consciousness or your energy form? Yes?
1:14:37
Speaker 2: Is there a possibility of trapping that around more of
1:14:40
Speaker 2: a nuts and bolts type of vehicle. Yes. And in
1:14:44
Speaker 2: these ancient Buddhist stories that go back beyond one hundred PC,
1:14:48
Speaker 2: they talk about this. They talk about physical entities coming
1:14:51
Speaker 2: here in flying palaces, you know, seven layered palaces, accompanied
1:14:57
Speaker 2: by the sounds of hundreds of thousands of musical instruments
1:15:01
Speaker 2: traveling from Sirius to Earth in the blink of an eye,
1:15:05
Speaker 2: and you know, arriving here and they hear this cacophony
1:15:08
Speaker 2: of sound that they a lot to, you know, hundreds
1:15:12
Speaker 2: of thousands of musical instruments being played without players. Well,
1:15:15
Speaker 2: what are they talking about here? They're talking about an
1:15:18
Speaker 2: entity that has arrived in some sort of physical craft
1:15:21
Speaker 2: from somewhere else, another realm, and other dimension, another planet.
1:15:24
Speaker 2: You know, we don't, you know, we don't really know
1:15:27
Speaker 2: outside of these stories. But why are these stories so
1:15:31
Speaker 2: prolific in Buddhism or you know, specific areas of Buddhism
1:15:35
Speaker 2: where it isn't in others. I mean, you can find
1:15:37
Speaker 2: similar aspects in almost every religion. You know, at some
1:15:41
Speaker 2: point the gods had come to the earth. But here,
1:15:43
Speaker 2: you know, in some of these stories, we're actually being
1:15:46
Speaker 2: told about a physical a physical presence and a physical
1:15:49
Speaker 2: vehicle that has brought them here, which just is mind boggling,
1:15:54
Speaker 2: because you know, we don't we don't get into that.
1:15:57
Speaker 2: In a lot of Buddhist practice, they just stop philosophy
1:15:59
Speaker 2: and they don't talk about some of these other interesting elements,
1:16:04
Speaker 2: which is what I got into studying, and I'll do
1:16:07
Speaker 2: my shameless pluge. A lot of that can be found
1:16:09
Speaker 2: in my book drope A Legends and Lower And so
1:16:13
Speaker 2: I got into a lot of my thesis study before
1:16:16
Speaker 2: I started getting into learning about the Dropa and Dropa
1:16:19
Speaker 2: nomadic people of South Asia and the drop of stones
1:16:23
Speaker 2: that you know, that was nineteen ninety eight to basically
1:16:26
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. I didn't study any of this stuff. I
1:16:29
Speaker 2: got deep into graphic design and multi media, and eventually
1:16:33
Speaker 2: these these subjects started coming back around, and I was
1:16:36
Speaker 2: challenged to start diving into some of these esoteric topics,
1:16:40
Speaker 2: and I did, especially after going to Egypt in twenty
1:16:43
Speaker 2: eighteen where while on the Nile Cruise with Brian Forrester
1:16:46
Speaker 2: and his wife and there were probably about ten of us.
1:16:49
Speaker 2: We were on the roof of the Nile Cruise in
1:16:51
Speaker 2: the middle of nowhere. There's no city lights, it's starting
1:16:54
Speaker 2: to get to dusk, you know. We're having a beer
1:16:56
Speaker 2: and patting Brian and add up and all of us sudden,
1:17:00
Speaker 2: this ORB whips by, and it's like a bright white
1:17:04
Speaker 2: light but has orange and blue intermixed with it, this
1:17:08
Speaker 2: color of magic, as we call it. It's like a
1:17:10
Speaker 2: rainbow of colors, but mixed in with this bright, intense light.
1:17:15
Speaker 2: And following it are these two f fifteens, and then
1:17:18
Speaker 2: shortly after that a second one comes along and just
1:17:21
Speaker 2: bobs along behind them as if to say, Hi, here
1:17:24
Speaker 2: we are. And I found it interesting because in Portland, Oregon,
1:17:27
Speaker 2: where I live, around that exact same time, it was
1:17:29
Speaker 2: April of twenty eighteen, there was an ORB that supposedly
1:17:33
Speaker 2: went by PDX Airport, which is where they now have
1:17:36
Speaker 2: all the F thirty five's. They move them all up
1:17:38
Speaker 2: from Ashland and from Climate Falls, southern Oregon to Portland.
1:17:43
Speaker 2: And they scrambled that jet so quickly and chased this
1:17:46
Speaker 2: thing up towards Seattle and caught up with whatever they
1:17:49
Speaker 2: were chasing in approximately, you know, under a minute or
1:17:53
Speaker 2: some ridiculous timeframe like this. And my first thought was, Okay,
1:17:58
Speaker 2: they're training our pilots to open up their envelope to
1:18:00
Speaker 2: G forces. Because whatever is piloting these crafts, whether it
1:18:04
Speaker 2: be an entity, whether it be our own drone technology,
1:18:08
Speaker 2: somebody using you know, some sort of telepresence as we
1:18:12
Speaker 2: were talking earlier, to control these devices, they're not subject
1:18:16
Speaker 2: to the G forces like the pilots are. But this
1:18:19
Speaker 2: is a good way of training our pilots to open
1:18:22
Speaker 2: up their envelope to be more superior pilots when they
1:18:25
Speaker 2: get into G force environments. And I've always wondered, you know,
1:18:28
Speaker 2: are a lot of these drones for training purposes? What
1:18:32
Speaker 2: is what is what is the rationale behind them? People like, oh,
1:18:36
Speaker 2: I'm seeing drones all over Portland. Well, we have what
1:18:38
Speaker 2: I call I call them quadrant drones, and so they'll
1:18:42
Speaker 2: come up two O five and they'll cut down eighty four,
1:18:45
Speaker 2: and then they'll cut down I five and then they'll
1:18:47
Speaker 2: cut back over behind Mount Tabor and then they'll I mean,
1:18:50
Speaker 2: they do this circular pattern. And there's two or three
1:18:53
Speaker 2: of these that fly over Portland at all periods of time.
1:18:55
Speaker 2: But there's other drones that people started, you know, noticing
1:18:59
Speaker 2: as lights that will just here somewhere and then blip
1:19:02
Speaker 2: out and appear somewhere else, and blip out and appear
1:19:05
Speaker 2: somewhere else and blip out, and so this it's baggering
1:19:08
Speaker 2: the question what what is all this drone technology? Is
1:19:11
Speaker 2: it our you know, military technology? Is it run away AI?
1:19:15
Speaker 2: Is it extraterrestrial? I mean, I'm I'm on you know,
1:19:18
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always on the conservative path of it's it's
1:19:21
Speaker 2: it's probably our own technology. And a lot of it
1:19:23
Speaker 2: is being used as a training mechanism, as a form
1:19:27
Speaker 2: of fear or or as we were saying, I think
1:19:30
Speaker 2: in the green room threat in a sense, you know
1:19:32
Speaker 2: that if we can't create this fear, in this threat,
1:19:35
Speaker 2: we can't fund these projects. When when Lou Alizondo and
1:19:39
Speaker 2: Grosh came out and they had their Senate hearing, and
1:19:42
Speaker 2: Grosh is like, oh, I know somebody that knows somebody
1:19:44
Speaker 2: that maybe had seen some of this stuff, but I
1:19:46
Speaker 2: can't talk about it. We can talk about it in
1:19:48
Speaker 2: private or in a skiff.
1:19:50
Speaker 1: Get in the skiff, bro get enough skiff with me.
1:19:52
Speaker 2: That skiff better have some life refs, you know. But
1:19:56
Speaker 2: I mean, you got you gotta you gotta think about
1:19:58
Speaker 2: that right there, because almost immediately they dumped about two
1:20:02
Speaker 2: billion dollars into space force because of the whole threat
1:20:06
Speaker 2: narrative that came out of that. And so again going
1:20:08
Speaker 2: back to you know, dark journalists always give him credit
1:20:11
Speaker 2: for this. He talked a little bit about the aspect
1:20:15
Speaker 2: that they want to control the marketing narrative around a
1:20:18
Speaker 2: lot of these new narratives because they see that this
1:20:22
Speaker 2: is a field where people are making a lot of
1:20:24
Speaker 2: money telling you know, these stories over the course of time,
1:20:26
Speaker 2: and so if they can control that marketing narrative, they
1:20:28
Speaker 2: can make that money. And you know, we're we're kind
1:20:31
Speaker 2: of seeing that unfold and so it it it really
1:20:35
Speaker 2: begges the question, you know, what are we being told?
1:20:37
Speaker 2: Why are we being told? It? Is it missed information?
1:20:39
Speaker 2: Is it misdirection. Is it intentional? A lot of it
1:20:43
Speaker 2: could be because you look at something like Werner von
1:20:46
Speaker 2: Vraun told his secretary before he died, we'd go through
1:20:49
Speaker 2: all these different phases, you know, the terrorists, the terrorist nation,
1:20:53
Speaker 2: environmental problems, asteroids, and the last card would be the
1:20:56
Speaker 2: UFO Collard and it basically would be there to control
1:20:59
Speaker 2: the narrative or control all of us. And we're kind
1:21:02
Speaker 2: of seeing hodgepodge of environmental effects, asteroids, and the phone
1:21:09
Speaker 2: narrative all coming together in one bucket. And so it's like,
1:21:13
Speaker 2: you know, pick your villain. You still have two others,
1:21:16
Speaker 2: but they're sitting there in that bucket.
1:21:19
Speaker 1: They do the asteroid thing every single year. They just
1:21:21
Speaker 1: did it over Christmas as well. Yeah, like a drying
1:21:25
Speaker 1: asteroids for Earth and.
1:21:27
Speaker 2: It's gonna be between the Moon and the Earth. Well,
1:21:30
Speaker 2: you do realize that you could fit every single planet
1:21:33
Speaker 2: in our Solar system between Earth and the Moon. I
1:21:40
Speaker 2: don't think people realize that that's how far the Moon is,
1:21:43
Speaker 2: and that's how big the planets in our solar system are.
1:21:45
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they tell you, Hans, That's what they
1:21:48
Speaker 1: tell you, But we don't really know.
1:21:50
Speaker 2: We don't, and the moon seems like it's getting bigger
1:21:52
Speaker 2: and bigger in the night sky. Is either the pollution's
1:21:54
Speaker 2: getting worse or it's getting closer.
1:22:00
Speaker 1: I did go out and see the moon the other
1:22:01
Speaker 1: day and I was like, wow, that is really bigger
1:22:05
Speaker 1: than what I ever remember it being.
1:22:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, jim me.
1:22:10
Speaker 1: So I told my girlfriend. I was like, come out
1:22:12
Speaker 1: here and see the moon, big moon, and I think
1:22:17
Speaker 1: it was like a full moon for an extended amount
1:22:21
Speaker 1: of time a little bit.
1:22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like it. And they called it. It
1:22:24
Speaker 2: wasn't a red moon or a blood moon. There was
1:22:26
Speaker 2: another name for it, super moon. Yeah, something like that,
1:22:30
Speaker 2: which is interesting. I mean, the moon, the moon cycles
1:22:32
Speaker 2: are incredibly fascinating. I believe it was the Mins that
1:22:36
Speaker 2: had a thirteen month calendar and it was all based
1:22:38
Speaker 2: on moon cycles, where you know, we kind of have
1:22:40
Speaker 2: a weird debunched all month cycle based on three hundred
1:22:44
Speaker 2: and sixty days, but obviously there's a sixty five so
1:22:48
Speaker 2: it fluctuates, which is why we have a leap year
1:22:50
Speaker 2: every seven years or whatnot, because they have to adjust
1:22:54
Speaker 2: for this weird calindrical system. But you know, the ancients
1:22:57
Speaker 2: knew it and they saw it as moon cycles, and
1:23:00
Speaker 2: so it's interesting that our wave patterns all flow around
1:23:04
Speaker 2: moon cycles. Women's menstrual systems all flow around moon cycles.
1:23:08
Speaker 2: So but what what is what is the moon? What
1:23:12
Speaker 2: truly is it?
1:23:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's in the esoteric things as well,
1:23:17
Speaker 1: Like you know, in Christianity, Gabriel. Gabriel is a part.
1:23:20
Speaker 2: Of the moon.
1:23:21
Speaker 1: It's a section of the moon. Gabriel is the one
1:23:24
Speaker 1: that came to Mary and Joseph, taught them the ways
1:23:29
Speaker 1: of you know, sexual intercourse by having a divine child.
1:23:33
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it gets super esoteric. Scottie Boyce says, here,
1:23:37
Speaker 1: what do you think about Trump releasing the JFK stuff? Writer,
1:23:42
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he's going to. I think
1:23:44
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I mean he's already signed it.
1:23:46
Speaker 1: It's going to be the JFK files, RFK files and
1:23:51
Speaker 1: marm Luther King Junior files. I think you should do
1:23:55
Speaker 1: the nine to eleven files too, if you you really
1:23:57
Speaker 1: want some juicy stuff and get everybody up in a roar.
1:24:00
Speaker 1: Released the nine to eleven files.
1:24:03
Speaker 2: Concern it as about ninety percent of it's going to
1:24:06
Speaker 2: be blacked out.
1:24:08
Speaker 1: That's what people are saying I don't know. Supposedly it
1:24:11
Speaker 1: has to go through like what fourteen different agencies. Don't
1:24:16
Speaker 1: quote me on that, but a lot of different agencies
1:24:19
Speaker 1: it has to go through before it can be released,
1:24:21
Speaker 1: and some of it probably is going to be redacted,
1:24:26
Speaker 1: which I don't know how you can say something's been
1:24:28
Speaker 1: released when there's reactions to it. That doesn't seem like
1:24:33
Speaker 1: a releasing of files to me. That's not what I
1:24:36
Speaker 1: think of a releasing of files to be Whenever it's
1:24:39
Speaker 1: redacted files. When you release something, you think that you
1:24:43
Speaker 1: get to see all of it. That's at least what
1:24:46
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know if that's the way that
1:24:48
Speaker 1: they look at it. They probably don't look at it
1:24:51
Speaker 1: that way. But yeah, some of the mk Ultra files
1:24:54
Speaker 1: were also redacted as well, for like funding and you
1:25:00
Speaker 1: know where they got a lot of their funding from
1:25:02
Speaker 1: to do the operation.
1:25:04
Speaker 2: But it also creates more of the conspiracy around well
1:25:07
Speaker 2: what are they redacting? You know? And it just it's
1:25:10
Speaker 2: that energy buzz, you know, the energy and energy out right,
1:25:13
Speaker 2: and so if you're putting energy into false or you know,
1:25:18
Speaker 2: realistic reaction, then what are you redacting? What are you
1:25:21
Speaker 2: hiding from us? And that just causes more of a
1:25:23
Speaker 2: stir and more of an interest.
1:25:25
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's going to happen.
1:25:29
Speaker 1: But how much of it we're actually going to get
1:25:32
Speaker 1: to see don't know. I hope all of it. And
1:25:35
Speaker 1: I'm actually really interested about the Martin Luther King Junior
1:25:39
Speaker 1: files and the RFK files because we talk about RFK
1:25:43
Speaker 1: a lot in a clockwork shining and Sir Haan so.
1:25:48
Speaker 2: The police officer that was standing behind him, that conveniently
1:25:51
Speaker 2: fled to Cambodia or whatever, and I lived out his
1:25:54
Speaker 2: life there. You got to remember RFK was shot in
1:25:58
Speaker 2: the back, but Sirhan, Sirhan was standing in front of him,
1:26:00
Speaker 2: and there were thirteen shots fired and he had an
1:26:04
Speaker 2: eight round gun, so magic bullets to come out of
1:26:09
Speaker 2: the yes. And then conveniently he's reading.
1:26:17
Speaker 1: Well, he wasn't reading Catcher in the That was the
1:26:19
Speaker 1: psychic driving inspector on Mark David Chapman, that's right, reading
1:26:25
Speaker 1: Catcher in the Rye. And in John Hinckley was John
1:26:30
Speaker 1: Hinckley Junior is out of prison.
1:26:32
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, you'd be somebody worth interviewing.
1:26:36
Speaker 1: Might try and get him on. Never know, let's find
1:26:39
Speaker 1: out the truth bro right, right, what happened? Let's hear
1:26:44
Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth, right, But uh, what do you
1:26:51
Speaker 1: think about this this AI stuff? Because I think that
1:26:54
Speaker 1: the AI is kind of going to be a a
1:26:59
Speaker 1: big threat in the future. I don't really like the
1:27:04
Speaker 1: direction that AI is heading, with all of the fake
1:27:06
Speaker 1: AI videos and the fake AI pictures just just convoluting
1:27:09
Speaker 1: and making the truth even harder to actually sniff out.
1:27:13
Speaker 2: And I had, strangely, I had an AI interview for
1:27:18
Speaker 2: potential contract I was supposed to be working on, and
1:27:21
Speaker 2: I felt really awkward about that because it tapped out
1:27:24
Speaker 2: halfway through the interview and I'm just like, is this
1:27:26
Speaker 2: even a real person I'm talking to? I mean, it
1:27:29
Speaker 2: was very bizarre, and I'm seeing I'm seeing the creep
1:27:33
Speaker 2: into so many different industries with AI. I call it
1:27:35
Speaker 2: machine learning because there is no intelligence there. It's just
1:27:40
Speaker 2: learning and learning and learning and computating every single outcome.
1:27:44
Speaker 2: And you know this is I do a lecture series
1:27:47
Speaker 2: on AI and the movies, and ever since you know, Metropolis,
1:27:51
Speaker 2: we've had three different forms of AI and the movies,
1:27:54
Speaker 2: but all of them are stuck within their own programming,
1:27:57
Speaker 2: which I find very fascinating. First AI that rolls out
1:28:01
Speaker 2: in the movies in Metropolis is in Metropolis and it's
1:28:06
Speaker 2: this female AI that was created as a sex spot.
1:28:09
Speaker 2: So the first AI ever that we ever see is
1:28:12
Speaker 2: a sex spot.
1:28:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody getting laid.
1:28:18
Speaker 2: Then you have then you have hal right, so hal
1:28:22
Speaker 2: Is is you know, self aware and wants to murder
1:28:25
Speaker 2: everybody for the greater good of his programming. So now
1:28:28
Speaker 2: you have the you know, the the mal intent AI.
1:28:32
Speaker 2: And then you have the helper ais, which are A
1:28:34
Speaker 2: C three PO and R two D two and Star Wars.
1:28:37
Speaker 2: And this cycle repeats to almost every movie that we see.
1:28:40
Speaker 2: It's either a sex spot, like in the movie AI
1:28:43
Speaker 2: Jude Laws character, he's the jiggalo, right, so there you
1:28:46
Speaker 2: have your sex spot, or or in Blade Runner you've
1:28:50
Speaker 2: got what's her name's character, the main female lead in there,
1:28:56
Speaker 2: she's also a sex spot or a pleasure pot. Uh.
1:28:59
Speaker 2: And and this this just repeats over and over. So
1:29:02
Speaker 2: you've got you know, the mal intent, the benefactor, and
1:29:05
Speaker 2: the sex spot. And this is the continuation of how
1:29:08
Speaker 2: we're being sold AI. But for some reason, everybody thinks
1:29:11
Speaker 2: that AI is going to take over the world and
1:29:12
Speaker 2: kill us all, and it's just going to become you know,
1:29:15
Speaker 2: self aware and so on and so forth. Well, it's
1:29:17
Speaker 2: it's stuck within its own programming. It can never break that,
1:29:20
Speaker 2: you know, and that I've always found very interesting. Eisamov
1:29:23
Speaker 2: talks about with that with the three laws, right, and
1:29:26
Speaker 2: so those are programmed into just about anything that you know,
1:29:29
Speaker 2: could possibly have any sort of sentient aspect. Without the Internet,
1:29:34
Speaker 2: AI would never exist. It could never control any of
1:29:36
Speaker 2: our lives. It can never it can never be what
1:29:38
Speaker 2: it is right now. Because we have the Internet, it
1:29:41
Speaker 2: has an unlimited source of information that it can pile
1:29:44
Speaker 2: through in you know, megaseconds or not, and you know,
1:29:48
Speaker 2: just keep accumulating more and more and more information, and
1:29:51
Speaker 2: so you're basically filling buckets of sand. You know, it
1:29:53
Speaker 2: might be one pass of the Internet, and it learns that.
1:29:55
Speaker 2: If it's doing one hundred and fifty million passes of
1:29:57
Speaker 2: the Internet, then it's learned, you know, one hundred and
1:29:59
Speaker 2: fifty milli grains of sand. And now you have a pile,
1:30:02
Speaker 2: and so I can always go back to that pile
1:30:04
Speaker 2: and just pull from those resources. But you start looking
1:30:07
Speaker 2: at you know, oh, we're gonna have self driving cars
1:30:10
Speaker 2: that could take you anywhere that they want. There's no
1:30:11
Speaker 2: way that this is going to happen because there's too
1:30:13
Speaker 2: many unpredictable elements on the road for it to happen.
1:30:17
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, there's a new pothole. Well,
1:30:19
Speaker 2: the new pothole wasn't wasn't picked up by the AI
1:30:21
Speaker 2: and the first past during the training run, and it's
1:30:23
Speaker 2: going to hit the pothole. You know. Oh shit, a
1:30:25
Speaker 2: cow just walked across in front of us. Oh no,
1:30:27
Speaker 2: you know, there's just so many variables that autonomous driving
1:30:31
Speaker 2: at the level that they want it to be at
1:30:33
Speaker 2: could not possibly happen.
1:30:34
Speaker 1: I mean, I just seen the videos so funny. There's
1:30:38
Speaker 1: this automatic driving car. Did you see this video where
1:30:40
Speaker 1: this guy got an automatic driving car pick up from
1:30:44
Speaker 1: Uber and something glitched out on it and it just
1:30:47
Speaker 1: keeps driving in circles in a parking lot.
1:30:51
Speaker 2: I've not seen this.
1:30:51
Speaker 1: It was just driving in circles in a parking lot.
1:30:53
Speaker 1: So he tried to call Uber and was like, something's
1:30:56
Speaker 1: wrong with my car, and then the lady's like, well,
1:30:58
Speaker 1: we can't turn it off here, Like he was just
1:31:01
Speaker 1: he was stuck in a parking lot with the car
1:31:03
Speaker 1: going in circles.
1:31:05
Speaker 2: Oh, that's frightening. So many It just you know, it
1:31:09
Speaker 2: brings up there's there's too many variables for things to
1:31:12
Speaker 2: go wrong. And my cousin has a Tesla and I
1:31:15
Speaker 2: got in the car with them and he put it
1:31:17
Speaker 2: on self drive and have a conversation with me, and
1:31:20
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, watch the road, Oh the car will
1:31:22
Speaker 2: do that. I'm like, no, watch the road, because again
1:31:27
Speaker 2: I don't I don't trust the technology, especially you know,
1:31:30
Speaker 2: like we were talking on social credit score earlier. I mean,
1:31:33
Speaker 2: they can turn your car off in a heartbeat or
1:31:36
Speaker 2: they could.
1:31:36
Speaker 1: Well, then who's responsible for that? Like who holds the
1:31:40
Speaker 1: liability if an accident happens?
1:31:42
Speaker 2: You do, as the owner?
1:31:46
Speaker 1: Whack, the car was an autopilot, bro was driving itself.
1:31:51
Speaker 2: You're the one that put it out of it. I
1:31:53
Speaker 2: think that the manufacturer I agree, But you're the one
1:31:57
Speaker 2: that pressed the autopilot, So that's your responsibility.
1:31:59
Speaker 1: I mean.
1:32:00
Speaker 2: And there's again it's like a lot of this hasn't
1:32:02
Speaker 2: been thoroughly thought out. And so it's interesting that we
1:32:06
Speaker 2: were talking about now you know this this project Stargate.
1:32:10
Speaker 2: It's so interesting that they would bring this title back
1:32:13
Speaker 2: up because This was such a remote viewing title back
1:32:15
Speaker 2: in the day, and now they're using it for AI,
1:32:17
Speaker 2: which AI is a technology that in a sense has
1:32:21
Speaker 2: the ability to remote view or predictive program things. So
1:32:25
Speaker 2: it's an interesting name for that as well. But the
1:32:27
Speaker 2: fact that they're you know, they're doing what Clinton did
1:32:32
Speaker 2: during his term where he took you know, one hundred
1:32:34
Speaker 2: and fifty TV networks and brought them down to six. Here,
1:32:37
Speaker 2: we're taking all this open source you know, amazing AI
1:32:40
Speaker 2: development you know, globally, and we're bringing it down to
1:32:43
Speaker 2: five companies that are all kind of owned by the
1:32:45
Speaker 2: same entity that are the only ones that have the
1:32:47
Speaker 2: ability to go above and beyond what we're dealing with with,
1:32:51
Speaker 2: you know, the standardiz of the AI right now.
1:32:55
Speaker 1: Have you seen this movie Subservience with Megan Fox on Netflix?
1:33:00
Speaker 1: So that is base. She's basically a sex robant.
1:33:04
Speaker 2: I have not Well, hey, there we go right back to.
1:33:06
Speaker 1: It, which also gets into like the realienism. Have you
1:33:11
Speaker 1: ever looked into realienism and the realism I have?
1:33:15
Speaker 2: That's a that's a dirty word and got Kanye West
1:33:17
Speaker 2: in trouble, didn't it. But but the guy, uh, the
1:33:21
Speaker 2: guy who started it, he was what an indy five
1:33:24
Speaker 2: hundred driver from from France or from Belgium. He was
1:33:27
Speaker 2: given a symbol of the swastika meets meets the uh,
1:33:31
Speaker 2: the Saturnian star and the Star of David, and he
1:33:34
Speaker 2: amalgamized both of them together and then he walks around
1:33:37
Speaker 2: kind of like uh Klaus Schwab from Davos Group wearing
1:33:40
Speaker 2: these weird puffy space alien outfits. But his second in command,
1:33:47
Speaker 2: her name is Bouchel or something like this. They were
1:33:50
Speaker 2: some of the first people to start talking about cloning,
1:33:54
Speaker 2: and this was back in the eighties, about actually cloning
1:33:57
Speaker 2: human beings, and they cloned this little girl they called
1:34:00
Speaker 2: Eve And nothing has come out of this since. But
1:34:03
Speaker 2: I've always found that fascinating that they were talking about,
1:34:06
Speaker 2: you know, cloning, when cloning was obviously very illegal during
1:34:09
Speaker 2: those time periods. And so now you know nowadays teen
1:34:14
Speaker 2: sequencing isn't isn't as illegal as it was. I mean,
1:34:16
Speaker 2: we're doing stem cell research them cell in the sense
1:34:19
Speaker 2: is a way of cloning, yes, But but there's a.
1:34:22
Speaker 1: Lot of things about cloning in the late nineties, like
1:34:26
Speaker 1: a lot of weird stuff like Bill Clinton was like
1:34:29
Speaker 1: passing legislation to make it to where you can't.
1:34:33
Speaker 2: And Soma did the same thing.
1:34:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so weird, Like why would you pass pass
1:34:38
Speaker 1: the legislation if you can't even do it yet. It
1:34:40
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. But also the Realienism cult also
1:34:45
Speaker 1: was like sex robots as well, which is a giant
1:34:48
Speaker 1: sex called Royale. Was just having sex with all the women,
1:34:52
Speaker 1: as any cult leader does. You got to have sex
1:34:54
Speaker 1: with all the women. But that's what he claimed was
1:34:58
Speaker 1: that the Elhem came and picked him up on their
1:35:00
Speaker 1: and he went up to their home planet and they
1:35:03
Speaker 1: had all these like sex robots that you could just
1:35:07
Speaker 1: have endless amount of sex. So then he, like true
1:35:10
Speaker 1: supposedly was teaching these earth women, Asian earth women, to
1:35:17
Speaker 1: please Loheim whenever they land in twenty thirty five.
1:35:24
Speaker 2: Ah, wow, the drugs were great back then, weren't they.
1:35:31
Speaker 1: Something he was doing something something, Scotty boy, that was
1:35:35
Speaker 1: I was actually this year, well last year. The movie
1:35:38
Speaker 1: came out in twenty twenty four.
1:35:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll have to look into that. I just sadly
1:35:43
Speaker 2: discontinue my Netflix, but I still I still have another
1:35:45
Speaker 2: month on it.
1:35:46
Speaker 1: So it's so expensive, dude, it's getting expensive and they're
1:35:49
Speaker 1: also getting ready to hike the price up again. I
1:35:52
Speaker 1: just got an email the other day that they're getting
1:35:54
Speaker 1: ready to do another price hike on it. Like, bro,
1:35:58
Speaker 1: we're already paying eighteen dollars a month for ad free
1:36:02
Speaker 1: and the only thing that ever goes up is the
1:36:04
Speaker 1: ad free versions of all of it, like the the
1:36:08
Speaker 1: base one doesn't go up where you get twenty ads
1:36:11
Speaker 1: and one freaking show of television that one never goes
1:36:16
Speaker 1: up that stays the six ninety nine.
1:36:18
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I don't own a TV. It's funny.
1:36:20
Speaker 2: I'll go out, you know, hang out with my friend
1:36:22
Speaker 2: at the bar every once in a while and the
1:36:24
Speaker 2: TV is on. I'll just sit there and stare at
1:36:26
Speaker 2: it and just watching the advertisements. It's like, Okay, you're
1:36:29
Speaker 2: selling some sort of toxic chemical that goes in your
1:36:32
Speaker 2: house to clean something. You're selling some sort of toxic
1:36:35
Speaker 2: big pharma that's you know, going in your body to
1:36:37
Speaker 2: fix something. But when you read the three thousand list
1:36:41
Speaker 2: of side effects, why would you ever want to take it?
1:36:44
Speaker 2: They're selling you, you know, the most ridiculous toxic food
1:36:47
Speaker 2: on the planet, all those fast food restaurants and the
1:36:49
Speaker 2: ones advertising on there, so nothing in the advertisements is
1:36:53
Speaker 2: beneficial to any of us. And it's it's mind blowing
1:36:55
Speaker 2: to even watch.
1:36:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like they just make make shut
1:37:00
Speaker 1: up too.
1:37:02
Speaker 2: Well, this is this is the problem I have unfortunately.
1:37:05
Speaker 2: You know, with the organics industry, you know, ten years
1:37:07
Speaker 2: ago there were hardly any organic products. Well now everything
1:37:11
Speaker 2: has an organic or a non GMO label slapped on it.
1:37:13
Speaker 2: And you know, none of us have the ability to
1:37:15
Speaker 2: actually go out and test any of this. And then
1:37:18
Speaker 2: you know, you ask these farmers what they have to
1:37:20
Speaker 2: jump through to go through these tests. Well, you can
1:37:22
Speaker 2: raise GMO crop as organic and call it organic. You
1:37:26
Speaker 2: also basically what's going into your water system, what's going
1:37:29
Speaker 2: into your soil? I mean, if the crop is raised organically,
1:37:33
Speaker 2: your soil doesn't need to be organic. Your water system
1:37:36
Speaker 2: could be as polluted as anything coming. You know, three
1:37:38
Speaker 2: farms upstream that are just using the most toxic chemicals.
1:37:42
Speaker 2: We don't know, but everything now is labeled organic. It's
1:37:45
Speaker 2: just it's mind blowing to me. It's like, how much
1:37:48
Speaker 2: of it really is? So support your local market, support
1:37:51
Speaker 2: your local farmers. Obviously, if something's being shipped through you know,
1:37:55
Speaker 2: fifteen different distilleries across the United States or elsewhere. You
1:37:58
Speaker 2: don't know where it's coming from, an idea what it is.
1:38:02
Speaker 1: Well, there is a way to figure that out. Now.
1:38:05
Speaker 1: It's an app called Yuka. Well you can get it's
1:38:12
Speaker 1: a it's a freaking handy app. Like this app has
1:38:17
Speaker 1: saved me a lot of time. It's uh, why uk A.
1:38:24
Speaker 1: I've been using it for like two years now. I
1:38:26
Speaker 1: use as soon as it came out. I was one
1:38:28
Speaker 1: of the first people on it. I was on it
1:38:29
Speaker 1: like Donkey Kong Baby. But it basically you just scan
1:38:33
Speaker 1: the barcode of any product, any food product. It doesn't
1:38:38
Speaker 1: do like supplements and things like that, but it'll tell
1:38:43
Speaker 1: you the additives and it it will give you the sugar,
1:38:46
Speaker 1: the calories, everything like it's a protein amount and then
1:38:49
Speaker 1: it gives a rated base on a scale from zero
1:38:53
Speaker 1: to one hundred. And using this app has like taught
1:38:57
Speaker 1: me like wach ingredients are harmful and what you aren't.
1:39:01
Speaker 1: And I don't even really have to use it anymore.
1:39:03
Speaker 1: I can just look at the back of the package
1:39:04
Speaker 1: and see what's in it. But what's interesting with using
1:39:09
Speaker 1: this app, and I believe that is accurate, ah, is
1:39:15
Speaker 1: that some of the like the the brands that some
1:39:20
Speaker 1: grocery stores carry are like the not the name brand stuff,
1:39:26
Speaker 1: you know, but like like Walmart, right, you go to
1:39:29
Speaker 1: Walmart and they got their great value section, like the
1:39:33
Speaker 1: ones that they have branded the Walmart brand. Some of
1:39:36
Speaker 1: those brands for like canned goods and like pasta, sauce
1:39:42
Speaker 1: and stuff like that are better than the name brand
1:39:46
Speaker 1: organic stuff. It's wild.
1:39:49
Speaker 2: No. One thing I'm noticing in a lot of the
1:39:51
Speaker 2: organic stuff I've been you know, packaged stuff I've been buying,
1:39:53
Speaker 2: is how how many seed oils are in them. It's like, oh,
1:39:56
Speaker 2: organic ceph are oil. It's like, you know, it says
1:39:59
Speaker 2: organic and staf else. It's like, so bad for you.
1:40:03
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable that they just pumped the stuff in there.
1:40:06
Speaker 1: So hopefully that'll change. Yeah, I hope that it'll change.
1:40:13
Speaker 1: Scotty Boy says, if you can't read the words on
1:40:15
Speaker 1: the pack, he's just not good for you. So try
1:40:20
Speaker 1: metal chlorophin.
1:40:22
Speaker 2: I'm at my gym and I forgot my soap, and
1:40:25
Speaker 2: so I'm using the pink soap at the gym, you know,
1:40:28
Speaker 2: in the shower, and I get this rash on my
1:40:30
Speaker 2: arm and I'm like, oh god, what's that from? So
1:40:32
Speaker 2: I asked the manager of the gym, can you, you know,
1:40:35
Speaker 2: for for compliance and eighty eight compliance, can you post
1:40:39
Speaker 2: a list of the ingredients of whatever in the soap
1:40:42
Speaker 2: that you're using, because I'm obviously hyprogenic allergenic to it.
1:40:46
Speaker 2: And he sends me the list and I only recognize
1:40:48
Speaker 2: one ingredient on it, red thirty three. Everything else was
1:40:52
Speaker 2: some random chemical and I'm like, oh my god.
1:40:55
Speaker 1: What is this yellow? What's the other one? Yellow forty
1:40:59
Speaker 1: or something like.
1:41:00
Speaker 2: Yellow six and yellow forty. It's both. They both come
1:41:02
Speaker 2: from cadmium, which is a radioactive byproduct. A lot of
1:41:06
Speaker 2: that yellow dye also goes into tattoo ink, So people
1:41:11
Speaker 2: getting colored tattoos avoid them like the plague because a
1:41:15
Speaker 2: lot of those colors are incredibly toxic.
1:41:19
Speaker 1: Throwing that out there, well, I'm lucky that I got
1:41:22
Speaker 1: most of mine are black and white.
1:41:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, black white, to go right, yeah, grey wash.
1:41:29
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to do what's that tattoo technique
1:41:33
Speaker 1: where it's not from Tibet. It's most like the long
1:41:38
Speaker 1: like the stick and polk tattoo, where one thing.
1:41:42
Speaker 2: They do that in South America They also do it
1:41:44
Speaker 2: in Japan, where they'll use a japan Yes bamboo. The
1:41:48
Speaker 2: guy that did my tattoo, I went to Japan and
1:41:51
Speaker 2: studied how to do that traditionally, and his stuff is
1:41:53
Speaker 2: so amazing. It's all black and white. He mixes kind
1:41:57
Speaker 2: of an Asian and Native American style together because he's
1:41:59
Speaker 2: the Native America guy. But he really got Ato Adian
1:42:01
Speaker 2: art when he was over there, and his tattoos are
1:42:04
Speaker 2: mind blowing. Good luck it on his tables name Cyanyan Sawyer,
1:42:07
Speaker 2: Amazing graphic and tattoo artist. But he's got like a
1:42:11
Speaker 2: waiting list of five years.
1:42:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you had it done before tattoo?
1:42:17
Speaker 2: I've had I've never not not not not the stick poke.
1:42:21
Speaker 2: But I remember when he went and did that, and
1:42:23
Speaker 2: I was pretty blown away with his portfolio when he
1:42:25
Speaker 2: came back.
1:42:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how sophisticated you can get with
1:42:31
Speaker 1: it by it. I don't know if you could do
1:42:33
Speaker 1: like a portraitor or something like that with a stick
1:42:37
Speaker 1: and poke, but I've seen some really good ones. A
1:42:41
Speaker 1: lot of like geometry, you can do really well with
1:42:44
Speaker 1: the the stick and pokes. Yeah, but there's a different
1:42:50
Speaker 1: kind of stick and poke as well, like the kind
1:42:52
Speaker 1: of that you just do yourself with a with a
1:42:57
Speaker 1: needle and some ink.
1:43:01
Speaker 2: What if we kind of superstructed this show around Egypt,
1:43:04
Speaker 2: we could get into some of the some of the Kommisian philosophy,
1:43:07
Speaker 2: I guess because I like to talk a little bit
1:43:09
Speaker 2: about that sometimes.
1:43:11
Speaker 1: The Commisian philosophy.
1:43:13
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:43:13
Speaker 1: Also the Dropa or the Dropa as well, you mentioned
1:43:17
Speaker 1: them a few times already, and you wrote your book
1:43:20
Speaker 1: on this. I think their names are different depending on
1:43:24
Speaker 1: what period of time and what part of the earth
1:43:29
Speaker 1: they call them different names, sort of like with you know,
1:43:32
Speaker 1: the Anonachy and Inky and Lull and all that. They
1:43:35
Speaker 1: all have different names depending on which region they're from.
1:43:39
Speaker 1: So the pronunciation is a little bit different, that's correct, right, Yes.
1:43:43
Speaker 2: It's it's a transliteration of sorts. And so when I
1:43:47
Speaker 2: first started researching the story, I realized that this small
1:43:52
Speaker 2: four foot or less tall group of nomads have come
1:43:56
Speaker 2: out of what is now central China but used to
1:43:58
Speaker 2: be far eastern Commoninet. They're known as the Dropa. In
1:44:02
Speaker 2: central Tibet they're known as the Zopa. When you get
1:44:05
Speaker 2: into Bhutan, Northern India Nepal, they're known as the Drokba,
1:44:09
Speaker 2: and the further west you go ladak Kshmir, Afghanistan. Up
1:44:14
Speaker 2: in the Caspian and Black Sea region, they're known as
1:44:16
Speaker 2: the Brokba, but it's all the same group of people.
1:44:19
Speaker 2: They speak a dialect that's two to three thousand years
1:44:23
Speaker 2: older than Sanskrit, so you're looking at a seven to
1:44:26
Speaker 2: eight thousand year dialect here of Shina. About two thousand
1:44:31
Speaker 2: people speak it in the world today. It's a gendered
1:44:36
Speaker 2: language like Thai or Spanish. It has a male and
1:44:39
Speaker 2: a female tongue to it, and it has a hierarchical
1:44:41
Speaker 2: tongue to it, so there's a child's voice, there's a
1:44:46
Speaker 2: common voice, and then there's a royal voice to it.
1:44:50
Speaker 2: They were forced out of this region of Tibet in
1:44:53
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties when the Chinese invaded the most I
1:44:57
Speaker 2: mean they swept in through the most remote region of Tibet,
1:45:01
Speaker 2: which were known as the Bayankara Ula mountain range around Bayanharshan.
1:45:06
Speaker 2: This whole area is what was called Colm Tibet. It
1:45:10
Speaker 2: has some really interesting other features there. There's a valley
1:45:14
Speaker 2: in southern com Tibet that has eleven or twelve of these.
1:45:20
Speaker 2: They're probably fifteen story towers that basically stretch the valley.
1:45:27
Speaker 2: I would love to see a satellite scatter of this
1:45:29
Speaker 2: from above, because it would show if there was a
1:45:32
Speaker 2: star map that they're replicating. But each one of these
1:45:35
Speaker 2: towers is shaped like a star fork, which is interesting.
1:45:40
Speaker 2: And people say, oh, they were used to see if
1:45:42
Speaker 2: marauders were coming up the valley. Well that makes sense,
1:45:44
Speaker 2: but why would you need twelve of them? You know,
1:45:48
Speaker 2: what's the significance of that? And so you're looking at
1:45:50
Speaker 2: my Lulu. So all my books are available at lulu
1:45:53
Speaker 2: dot com. I've got you know, dropo Legends and lore.
1:45:56
Speaker 2: What was from my first book. My second book was
1:45:59
Speaker 2: called Magic of Symbols, where I get into symbology across
1:46:02
Speaker 2: the ages of time. A lot of it's now found
1:46:05
Speaker 2: in corporate logos and in film even and media. And
1:46:10
Speaker 2: so you were talking earlier about this double speak with
1:46:13
Speaker 2: the secret societies. Well there's also double speak found within symbology,
1:46:17
Speaker 2: where we see the symbol as one thing, but those
1:46:20
Speaker 2: in the no see it as an esoteric symbol of
1:46:22
Speaker 2: something completely different. And then my most recent book is
1:46:26
Speaker 2: called Lost Mysteries of Kemmit, the Land before the Greeks
1:46:30
Speaker 2: where I get into a lot of the Commisian philosophy
1:46:33
Speaker 2: that was passed down to me through Stephen Mahler, Patricia
1:46:36
Speaker 2: Iowon Layman use of Iowon and unfortunately I never got
1:46:40
Speaker 2: to meet him, but the use of his father a
1:46:42
Speaker 2: Keem abdel Ion, and for those of you who've ever
1:46:45
Speaker 2: seen the Pyramid Code, he's kind of the elderly Egyptian
1:46:48
Speaker 2: gentleman that goes. You have to listen, but he's His
1:46:52
Speaker 2: philosophy in there is pretty amazing. And the Greeks again,
1:46:58
Speaker 2: they destroyed so much of the Egyptian or Commission history
1:47:01
Speaker 2: to rewrite it as their own. They saw everything as patrilineage,
1:47:04
Speaker 2: where we see everything as matrilineage. There was more of
1:47:07
Speaker 2: a matriarchal society there prior to the Greeks than than
1:47:11
Speaker 2: most people want to admit to. And we see this
1:47:14
Speaker 2: in the naming of the houses. And so there are
1:47:16
Speaker 2: five different houses. There's more than five, but there's five
1:47:18
Speaker 2: sacred houses. House in theof or hieroglyphic is a broken
1:47:24
Speaker 2: box with a symbol or a hieroglyphic inside of it
1:47:27
Speaker 2: or below it. And so one of the sacred houses
1:47:31
Speaker 2: is called per whirr or per wizer, which is the
1:47:33
Speaker 2: house of the wyse. And so this would have been
1:47:36
Speaker 2: the house symbol with a man in a cane and
1:47:39
Speaker 2: this represented wisdom knowledge. This was a university or hospital
1:47:43
Speaker 2: or a place of learning. So this was per or
1:47:45
Speaker 2: per wizard. This is where we get the words wizard
1:47:49
Speaker 2: from or wyse. These all come out of these ancient
1:47:52
Speaker 2: commission words are Souf language, soof words nothing to do
1:47:55
Speaker 2: with the soufie that's very different. The Souf language is
1:47:58
Speaker 2: similar to Berber. It's still spoken in parts of Morocco,
1:48:02
Speaker 2: Algeria and the Molli Africa as well. And so there's
1:48:10
Speaker 2: this this Souf you know, in indigenous language that's been
1:48:14
Speaker 2: taught through a time. The next would be per khaw,
1:48:17
Speaker 2: which is the house of the body. This is a tomb, right,
1:48:21
Speaker 2: This is where you bury a body. The perkha the
1:48:24
Speaker 2: house of the body, not a pyramid. The pyramids were
1:48:27
Speaker 2: known as per netter, the house of nature or the
1:48:30
Speaker 2: house of energy. And this is fascinating because the Greeks
1:48:33
Speaker 2: knew this. They called it the pyramid, which meansmedos the
1:48:36
Speaker 2: fire in the middle. They weren't tombs, they were energy devices.
1:48:41
Speaker 2: And then you have per ba, and so your ba
1:48:44
Speaker 2: is usually represented by oh yeah. So the perkaw cause
1:48:49
Speaker 2: represented by two hands upright like this, which which represented
1:48:56
Speaker 2: the double, the duality of the body, basically your body double.
1:49:00
Speaker 2: The per netter was a handle with an axe head
1:49:03
Speaker 2: on it, or it looks like a flag. And so
1:49:05
Speaker 2: this was the house of nature. Your per ba, your
1:49:08
Speaker 2: ba is your it's your head on top of a
1:49:12
Speaker 2: bird's body. If you've ever seen the movie Spirited Away,
1:49:16
Speaker 2: the woman who runs the bath house every night turns
1:49:20
Speaker 2: into a ba. She turns into a bird with her
1:49:22
Speaker 2: head on it and flies out into a moon. The
1:49:25
Speaker 2: darkness of the sun will get into the suns here
1:49:27
Speaker 2: in a second, and then that's per ba. So per
1:49:31
Speaker 2: Ba was the house of the spirit. So this is
1:49:34
Speaker 2: a temple, this is a place of worship. But the
1:49:37
Speaker 2: most important all the houses was per Ah. And this
1:49:40
Speaker 2: was known as the high house. It was the house
1:49:42
Speaker 2: of the woman. And this is where we get the
1:49:44
Speaker 2: word pharaoh from. And so scholars that are knowledgeable will say,
1:49:49
Speaker 2: in the time of Pharaoh, there was King so and
1:49:52
Speaker 2: so and King so and so, and they're all buried
1:49:54
Speaker 2: in the valley of the King's not the valley of
1:49:56
Speaker 2: the pharaohs, but lazy scholars will call all the pharaoh's
1:50:01
Speaker 2: And I find this incredibly frustrating because if you just
1:50:04
Speaker 2: scratch under the surface into you know, even Egyptian history
1:50:10
Speaker 2: and Commission history, you will realize that per ah and
1:50:12
Speaker 2: pharaoh are the same word. And so the pharaoh was
1:50:15
Speaker 2: the high house of the woman, and she would select
1:50:18
Speaker 2: her king. And so when you see the pictures or
1:50:21
Speaker 2: the pictures I guess you would see the pictures online,
1:50:23
Speaker 2: but if you see the statues of the king and
1:50:25
Speaker 2: the queen, she always has her arm around him, not
1:50:28
Speaker 2: the other way around, as if to say, this is mine.
1:50:31
Speaker 2: I chose him. And so she would rule over the
1:50:34
Speaker 2: fertility of the land and the people, and he would
1:50:37
Speaker 2: rule over the physicality of the land and the people.
1:50:40
Speaker 2: And this is a unity project, and this was their matriarchy.
1:50:43
Speaker 2: It wasn't the complete opposite of a patriarchy, but it
1:50:45
Speaker 2: was considered a unity. And so it's interesting when the
1:50:48
Speaker 2: Greeks came in, they just saw it as patrilineage, and
1:50:50
Speaker 2: they called everybody pharaoh, and they called everybody kings, and
1:50:52
Speaker 2: it was all these kings lists, when in reality and
1:50:55
Speaker 2: the king's names were all just titles. And some of
1:50:58
Speaker 2: these titles were women's title. You've got to start looking
1:51:03
Speaker 2: into that. And then all the names that were handed down,
1:51:06
Speaker 2: you know Osiris and Isis and Horus, and you know
1:51:09
Speaker 2: Anubis and Ramses. These are all Greek names. These were
1:51:14
Speaker 2: not any of their original names. So Osyrius was was
1:51:17
Speaker 2: whisser or bou whisser. That was Osyrus. That's where the
1:51:20
Speaker 2: word wise or wissir comes from. Whisser. That was what
1:51:24
Speaker 2: the Greeks heard. Is Osiris through a transliteration. Isis was Aset.
1:51:28
Speaker 2: You know, she's the goddess of water and fertility. Ramses
1:51:32
Speaker 2: was Ramasu, which means the rebirth of the sun, and
1:51:37
Speaker 2: and so on and so forth, and so all these
1:51:39
Speaker 2: names were were titles of people. So Akanatin's eldest daughter
1:51:44
Speaker 2: was Maritatin or Mary a ten and so a ten
1:51:48
Speaker 2: is one of the fourth or it's the fourth phase
1:51:50
Speaker 2: of the sun, and it means the enlightened. And Marie
1:51:53
Speaker 2: or Mary means the beloved, so she's the beloved of
1:51:56
Speaker 2: the enlightened, which was her father. You know, Akanatan, who
1:52:01
Speaker 2: went from being Immunhotep the fourth, which means the hidden
1:52:04
Speaker 2: altar basically or Amun Hotep. Hotep is an altar and
1:52:09
Speaker 2: Amun is the hidden phase of the sun or darkness.
1:52:12
Speaker 2: That he was the hidden altar. But he wanted to
1:52:14
Speaker 2: be known as you know, the of the sun basically,
1:52:17
Speaker 2: and so he changed his name to Akhnatan, and he
1:52:21
Speaker 2: changed all the netters or the natures into a monotheiastic
1:52:25
Speaker 2: practice of worshiping the sun. And so when the Hanuiti
1:52:29
Speaker 2: priests came in and they flushed out his family and
1:52:31
Speaker 2: they changed you know, they invaded the capital of Amarna Maritat,
1:52:37
Speaker 2: and his daughter fled. She fled across the Mediterranean with
1:52:40
Speaker 2: her priest's class and they ended up in Scotland. Well,
1:52:43
Speaker 2: her real name is Scotia, and Scotland is named after her.
1:52:47
Speaker 2: And all the druids of Scotland were all ancient Egyptian
1:52:50
Speaker 2: or Commisian priests before the Hanutis came in. And so
1:52:54
Speaker 2: that block that the king or the queen gets anointed
1:52:57
Speaker 2: on in England. That granite slab came from Egypt. I mean,
1:53:02
Speaker 2: it's it's from it's from Oswan, and so it's part
1:53:05
Speaker 2: of the rose granite that was brought over there. But
1:53:07
Speaker 2: her name was was Scotia, and she was known as
1:53:11
Speaker 2: mary Aten or Mara Tatan, and so his his head visier.
1:53:16
Speaker 2: His head visier's title was pa ren Neffer, which means
1:53:21
Speaker 2: the harmony of secret names, because ren is your secret
1:53:25
Speaker 2: name in the nine souls of the afterlife. It is
1:53:27
Speaker 2: the name of your your secret spirit. The parah Neffer
1:53:30
Speaker 2: is the harmony of the secret names. And he was
1:53:33
Speaker 2: the head vasir or advisor to Akamatan. Well, his real
1:53:37
Speaker 2: name was Ramasu Ramses right, and Ramasu means the rebirth
1:53:42
Speaker 2: of the sun. Well, this was the second manio monothist
1:53:47
Speaker 2: or whatever maniothist in a sense, and this is the
1:53:50
Speaker 2: character in biblical terms we call Moses, which again was
1:53:54
Speaker 2: a Greek name.
1:53:55
Speaker 1: But thee all of them is not their original names.
1:54:02
Speaker 1: See that's where people are like, oh, well Jesus wasn't
1:54:05
Speaker 1: really Jesus' name, which is true, But all of their
1:54:08
Speaker 1: real names.
1:54:10
Speaker 2: Not at all. They're titles and then they just change
1:54:13
Speaker 2: over time. You know, Memphis men of fear. Tannis was
1:54:17
Speaker 2: was called Taween or or there's another. The Janet was
1:54:21
Speaker 2: the other name for it, which also deals with fertility.
1:54:24
Speaker 2: And so all these names, all of the history that
1:54:27
Speaker 2: we've been given of Egypt is all Greek history, some
1:54:30
Speaker 2: of it's a little bit of Roman because the Romans
1:54:32
Speaker 2: are there after the Greeks, and some of it is
1:54:33
Speaker 2: Arabic because the Arabs were there after the Romans, which
1:54:37
Speaker 2: is where we get Cairo instead of Memphis or men.
1:54:40
Speaker 2: It's now al Careir, right, so it's Cairo. But it's
1:54:44
Speaker 2: it's just interesting that when you know, the conquering class
1:54:48
Speaker 2: comes in, you know, they rewrite the history. It's only
1:54:51
Speaker 2: fifty percent of it is correct. Well, if we've been
1:54:54
Speaker 2: a planet at war for say four thousand years, okay,
1:54:58
Speaker 2: every time there's a con our history reduces by a half. Okay,
1:55:03
Speaker 2: so after one hundred and twenty eight wars, we have
1:55:05
Speaker 2: no history on this planet, none, zero themselves. That's all
1:55:08
Speaker 2: made up. So what what actually are we? Yeah? What
1:55:12
Speaker 2: are we looking at?
1:55:13
Speaker 1: And so that's weird because these people that worship these
1:55:18
Speaker 1: entities or these uh, you know, historical figures, like you
1:55:22
Speaker 1: gotta have their name right, correct, because if you don't
1:55:26
Speaker 1: have their name right, then you're essentially giving your praise
1:55:31
Speaker 1: and worship and your thanks and your energy to an
1:55:34
Speaker 1: entity that technically doesn't exist.
1:55:38
Speaker 2: Right, And this this goes into the five phases of
1:55:41
Speaker 2: the sun. In Christianity we say Amen at the end
1:55:43
Speaker 2: of prayer. Right in Islam they say amen. But this
1:55:48
Speaker 2: word comes from Amun, and so Amun is the fifth
1:55:50
Speaker 2: phase of the sun. So the sun starts out in
1:55:52
Speaker 2: the morning, a lot of people call it the Keffer sun.
1:55:55
Speaker 2: Keffer is a dung beetle or a scarab and it
1:55:58
Speaker 2: rolls the ball of doune up with its larva inside
1:56:00
Speaker 2: of it, on top of the sand mounds. So when
1:56:02
Speaker 2: the sun rises, it cooks the ball of dung which
1:56:06
Speaker 2: hatches the larvae and then they have something to eat.
1:56:09
Speaker 2: And so this was known as the Kefer cycle, the
1:56:11
Speaker 2: recycle of Kefer. But the actual first phase of the
1:56:14
Speaker 2: sun was called Sarah, and Sarah means the birth of
1:56:18
Speaker 2: the sun. But that's phase one. The second phase of
1:56:21
Speaker 2: the sun is what we've all learned in Egyptian history
1:56:24
Speaker 2: as what they call the sun, and that's raw. Well,
1:56:27
Speaker 2: raw is the adolescent sun. It's the sun with the
1:56:29
Speaker 2: angry you know, it's it's the angry sun. It has
1:56:33
Speaker 2: the vibes coming out of the circle. Basically, that's how
1:56:35
Speaker 2: it's depicted in the hieroglyphs. And so it's it's the
1:56:39
Speaker 2: adolescent sun. It's the sun before noon when everything's starting
1:56:42
Speaker 2: to boil and heat up. Right then you have the
1:56:45
Speaker 2: third phase of the sun, and this is called ooon
1:56:47
Speaker 2: and this or UoN or on and oon or on
1:56:51
Speaker 2: is where we get the word on. You flip the
1:56:53
Speaker 2: light switch on right on star in corporate logos on
1:56:58
Speaker 2: its star, I mean, yeah on new it's it's all.
1:57:02
Speaker 2: It's all right there in front of us. But this
1:57:04
Speaker 2: was considered the wise sun. And so this is the
1:57:06
Speaker 2: sun in the afternoon, the early afternoon. The fourth phase
1:57:11
Speaker 2: of the sun was called A ten. And this is
1:57:13
Speaker 2: the enlightened sun. And this is you know, if you're
1:57:15
Speaker 2: a surfer, snowboarder, or a skateboarder, this is that sunset session.
1:57:20
Speaker 2: You know, like the perfect time to be out on
1:57:22
Speaker 2: the water. It's like four to five pm. It's not
1:57:25
Speaker 2: too hot, you get the golden rays of the sun.
1:57:28
Speaker 2: You can actually look at the sun. You have, you know,
1:57:30
Speaker 2: beautiful scenery around you. This is the enlightened sun. And
1:57:33
Speaker 2: all of our life we go through these different phases.
1:57:36
Speaker 2: We're born, so we are sada. We go through auto
1:57:38
Speaker 2: lessons so we are raw, we're angry, we become wise,
1:57:42
Speaker 2: you know, in our in our mid thirty early forties,
1:57:44
Speaker 2: So this is this is our oon phase, unity, unity,
1:57:49
Speaker 2: right ooon in a sense. Then we become enlightened toward
1:57:52
Speaker 2: you know, our sunset years or this is where it
1:57:55
Speaker 2: is basically, and this is our phase of autumn. And
1:57:59
Speaker 2: then we go into darkness and deception and the hidden
1:58:02
Speaker 2: veil which was called a moon. Well, this is where
1:58:06
Speaker 2: amen and amen come from. So when you're praying to
1:58:09
Speaker 2: the almighty high above you and you want your prayer
1:58:11
Speaker 2: to be heard, you say, blabadi blahbah blah, this is
1:58:14
Speaker 2: my prayer. Amen. Well, what you're really saying is hide
1:58:16
Speaker 2: my prayer and darkness. And so again you have this
1:58:21
Speaker 2: this total flip on on what we're being told and
1:58:25
Speaker 2: what we're being taught. And it's interesting to I like
1:58:28
Speaker 2: to reference movies a lot, and so you look at
1:58:31
Speaker 2: George Lucas's Skywalker. Okay, well, the main character his name
1:58:36
Speaker 2: is Luke Skywalker. Well, Luke is a shorthand for Lucius
1:58:39
Speaker 2: or Lucifer, the light bearer who walks across the sky. Okay,
1:58:43
Speaker 2: So this is the sun going through its phases in
1:58:46
Speaker 2: a new hope or Star Wars. The first movie, Luke
1:58:49
Speaker 2: is wearing all white. An empire strikes back, he's wearing gray,
1:58:54
Speaker 2: and in Return of the Jedi, he's wearing all black.
1:58:57
Speaker 2: And so he has gone through his life transformation and
1:59:01
Speaker 2: on the horizon of his blackened face, he meets his
1:59:05
Speaker 2: dark father, Darth Vader, and they battle through the darkness
1:59:10
Speaker 2: until he vanquishes his father with a new light right
1:59:16
Speaker 2: because his father becomes a light body. And at the
1:59:18
Speaker 2: end of Return of the Jedi, Anakin, Skywalker, Yoda, and
1:59:21
Speaker 2: Obi Wan are all standing there as light bodies because
1:59:24
Speaker 2: they've all been vanquished through this period of darkness or
1:59:27
Speaker 2: ammun into a new enlightened body. And so this is
1:59:32
Speaker 2: the story of the Skywalker saga that I don't think
1:59:35
Speaker 2: you know people put together because they see more of
1:59:38
Speaker 2: the Joseph Campbell side of it, the hero of a
1:59:41
Speaker 2: Thousand faces, but they don't see the esoteric side of
1:59:44
Speaker 2: it as well. And so you can get into a
1:59:47
Speaker 2: movie like the Last Jedi, horrible movie, but there's some
1:59:50
Speaker 2: pretty fascinating esoteric knowledge in that Ray falls down into
1:59:53
Speaker 2: the pit. There's the pit. It's the underworld right in
1:59:57
Speaker 2: a sense, as above so below and while she's down there,
2:00:00
Speaker 2: she looks into a scrying mirror to discover her own past,
2:00:04
Speaker 2: and that scrying mirror creates that infinity of her where
2:00:07
Speaker 2: she's snapping her fingers, and then she eventually comes to
2:00:10
Speaker 2: the mirror itself and she asks to see who she
2:00:14
Speaker 2: is or who her parents are, and she sees herself.
2:00:17
Speaker 2: And so this is a scrying mirror. And so the
2:00:19
Speaker 2: ancients would use these pieces of obsidian or polished stone,
2:00:24
Speaker 2: and they would go into scrying sessions to try and
2:00:26
Speaker 2: predict future events. Well that's huge Esoter acknowledge there. And
2:00:30
Speaker 2: then you have Luke Astra projecting himself from Octau all
2:00:34
Speaker 2: the way across the galaxy to the planet of Crate,
2:00:38
Speaker 2: where his physical energetic form appears to fight off kyleo
2:00:41
Speaker 2: Ren one last time. This doesn't deplete his energy. I
2:00:46
Speaker 2: mean it depletes his energy, but it doesn't kill him
2:00:48
Speaker 2: the way that we would think he would die. And
2:00:50
Speaker 2: so we see him levitating. He's the levitation above the
2:00:53
Speaker 2: projection platform on Octau and he disappears in his cloak
2:00:56
Speaker 2: glands back on the platform. Well, it's interesting because he's
2:00:59
Speaker 2: staring into the twin westing suns of Octo. Well, the
2:01:04
Speaker 2: twin Sons are a direct reference to Sirius because you know,
2:01:08
Speaker 2: in Masonic condition, Sirius is considered the blazing star. To
2:01:12
Speaker 2: the Buddhist it's the brightest star that rises on the horizon.
2:01:16
Speaker 2: To the Muslims, it's it's basically part of their hodge
2:01:18
Speaker 2: because Sirius will rise with Canus Major toward the end
2:01:22
Speaker 2: of July early August above the horizon. And this is
2:01:25
Speaker 2: when the hodge happens in Mecca. And so you have
2:01:28
Speaker 2: Saturnian and and goddess symbology and even even uh Saturnian
2:01:35
Speaker 2: goddess and Syrian symbology right there, all at at Mecca.
2:01:39
Speaker 2: Because the black cube, the ka'a ba or the body
2:01:43
Speaker 2: soul building. Right, if we were to look at it
2:01:45
Speaker 2: in commission terms k bah, right, it also means cube
2:01:49
Speaker 2: and it's a black cube. Well, it wasn't originally a
2:01:52
Speaker 2: Muslim temple. It was commissioned by the Queen of Sheba.
2:01:55
Speaker 2: So this is you know, it was it was for
2:01:57
Speaker 2: goddess worship, and it was the usurp. And so sitting
2:02:01
Speaker 2: in the eastern corner of it, facing serious rising on
2:02:04
Speaker 2: the east, is the Kaba stone, which is considered a
2:02:07
Speaker 2: piece of the Cinamoni Stone in a sense, it's a
2:02:10
Speaker 2: piece of meteorite that fell from the clouds from serious
2:02:13
Speaker 2: just like the Cintamani Stone did, and it grants its
2:02:16
Speaker 2: possessor incredible luck, fortune and like the Philosopher's Stone in
2:02:21
Speaker 2: a sense, longevity of life. And so you know, if
2:02:24
Speaker 2: you're Muslim, you will go at one point in your
2:02:26
Speaker 2: life to Mecca to do your pilgrim. Pilgrimage, you walk
2:02:30
Speaker 2: around the Kaba building seven times counterclockwise, which is funny
2:02:34
Speaker 2: because I believe the rings of Saturn also go on
2:02:37
Speaker 2: a counterclockwise position, and then eventually you make your way
2:02:40
Speaker 2: toward the eastern corner where you're allowed once in your
2:02:43
Speaker 2: lifetime to touch the Kaba Stone. Well, it's fascinating that
2:02:47
Speaker 2: when Oculus and Metaverse first came out, they built a
2:02:51
Speaker 2: fake Kaba stone and Kabba enclosure and put people in
2:02:55
Speaker 2: Oculus mass so they didn't have to go to Mecca
2:02:58
Speaker 2: to touch the stone. Can just put on their Oculus
2:03:01
Speaker 2: and go up to this thing and touch it. And
2:03:03
Speaker 2: so here we're diverting, you know, these these sacred traditions
2:03:07
Speaker 2: again with technology and so yeah, this.
2:03:12
Speaker 1: Wow some mind blowing stuff. And not only with Ray
2:03:16
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror and seeing herself. But there was
2:03:20
Speaker 1: also a form of that, and the Empire strikes back
2:03:25
Speaker 1: whenever Luke was training with Yoda and he goes into
2:03:28
Speaker 1: the cave, and the cave encounters Darth Vader, and then
2:03:32
Speaker 1: his mask blows up and he sees himself underneath the.
2:03:35
Speaker 2: Right right, And that's it's interesting. Also an empire we get,
2:03:40
Speaker 2: we get the physical nuts and bolts. Mercaba chamber, which
2:03:44
Speaker 2: is Mercaba is two tetrahedrons upside down, spinning in alternative directions.
2:03:51
Speaker 2: This makes up what the Star David was. It's also
2:03:54
Speaker 2: solomon sigil was made out of brass and iron, and
2:03:58
Speaker 2: the energy that it would create in tween this vortex
2:04:01
Speaker 2: energy could either ensnare or protect entities. I mean, that's
2:04:06
Speaker 2: how Solomon was using all of his sigils in a sense.
2:04:09
Speaker 2: And so that shape inside of those two spinning vortices
2:04:14
Speaker 2: is an octahedron, and this is the shape of Darth
2:04:17
Speaker 2: Vader's meditational chamber. And while he's inside of it, he's
2:04:21
Speaker 2: able to take off his helmet without dying, because you
2:04:24
Speaker 2: remember in Return of the Jedi, He's like, let me
2:04:27
Speaker 2: take off my mask, and stare upon you with my
2:04:30
Speaker 2: own eyes, and Luke says, but it will kill you. Well,
2:04:32
Speaker 2: because he's not in his Merkaba chamber. In that chamber,
2:04:35
Speaker 2: the energy in that chamber allows him to remove his
2:04:37
Speaker 2: suit and heal his wounds. He can also telepathically communicate
2:04:42
Speaker 2: with Luke, his son, with the Emperor, and with other
2:04:45
Speaker 2: Jedi and Sith practitioners. But this is a physical nuts
2:04:48
Speaker 2: and bolts Merkabi energy device. It's allowing him to ask
2:04:53
Speaker 2: for project to other portions of the galaxy through his mind. Basically,
2:04:59
Speaker 2: it's all right in front of us. We want to
2:05:01
Speaker 2: look at it. Yeah, it really is.
2:05:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really incredible. I had another thought that I
2:05:07
Speaker 1: just lost because of that Darth Vader thing was super intriguing.
2:05:14
Speaker 2: YT Scotty says mrkha Ba. Well, here we have these
2:05:17
Speaker 2: words again. Is a representation of water, So it's a
2:05:21
Speaker 2: water energy that affects your body and your spiritual field,
2:05:25
Speaker 2: or or a liquid liquefied energy in a sense, Mr Kaba.
2:05:30
Speaker 2: Which it's such an interesting word because that's directly borrowed
2:05:33
Speaker 2: from from the Commission and Sooup language, as is a
2:05:36
Speaker 2: lot of things. So anyway, I just saw them in
2:05:39
Speaker 2: the post go By.
2:05:40
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, that's really wild. This is the Star
2:05:50
Speaker 1: Wars connection because a lot of people, like you said,
2:05:52
Speaker 1: they you know, they're like heroes journey and all that,
2:05:56
Speaker 1: but they don't really look at it and like the
2:05:59
Speaker 1: occult and that's with her of the Sun cycles. Yeah,
2:06:06
Speaker 1: well that's what I was going to say. So the
2:06:08
Speaker 1: occult practitioners, like when you're talking about Louke going through
2:06:11
Speaker 1: these phases and then Darth Vader, Anakin, Skirwalker, Yoda and
2:06:16
Speaker 1: Obi Wan showing up at the end because they've achieved
2:06:18
Speaker 1: like their light body. Is that not the goal of
2:06:22
Speaker 1: like a cult practitioners is to go through the darkness
2:06:27
Speaker 1: in order to pop out the other side.
2:06:29
Speaker 2: You do the work. I mean, you're not going to
2:06:32
Speaker 2: become enlightened just going through your life and you know,
2:06:34
Speaker 2: screwing everybody over you. You have to go through the
2:06:37
Speaker 2: phases of your own son and your own body. You
2:06:41
Speaker 2: have to experience that. That's kind of what we were
2:06:43
Speaker 2: talking about at the beginning. If we were all knowing
2:06:45
Speaker 2: and all encompassing, why would we even be here. I mean,
2:06:48
Speaker 2: life wouldn't really to be in a physical form unless
2:06:51
Speaker 2: there is something that there might not be anything. It
2:06:55
Speaker 2: might just be you know, the natural course of all life.
2:06:57
Speaker 2: But there's something that we all go through through the
2:06:59
Speaker 2: course about our own lives, where you know, we have
2:07:03
Speaker 2: to reach a state of our own enlightenment. We have
2:07:05
Speaker 2: to go through our own darkness. We have to do
2:07:07
Speaker 2: our own work in order to come out the other
2:07:10
Speaker 2: side as light. You know, there is a lot of
2:07:15
Speaker 2: shadow work to be done, and we're still having to do.
2:07:18
Speaker 2: All of us have to do this.
2:07:20
Speaker 1: That was the other thing. That was another thought, but
2:07:23
Speaker 1: I had another one. So a lot of the temples
2:07:25
Speaker 1: and a lot of the worship places, especially in Japan,
2:07:28
Speaker 1: I'm not too familiar with some of the other ones
2:07:30
Speaker 1: in other countries, but they all have a mirror and
2:07:35
Speaker 1: then so that you can look at yourself. And in
2:07:40
Speaker 1: this in the center of the temple, in the center
2:07:42
Speaker 1: of the worship area is there's always a mirror.
2:07:47
Speaker 2: We do this every day. I mean, I'm sure everybody
2:07:51
Speaker 2: gets up and they look in the mirror and they
2:07:53
Speaker 2: ask themselves questions, what you know, what am I doing?
2:07:57
Speaker 2: What have I done? You know this Saturday? Or I've
2:08:00
Speaker 2: got this, you know, empowering statements and we all we
2:08:02
Speaker 2: all reflect upon ourselves through those mirrors. And I don't
2:08:07
Speaker 2: know if you've ever put a cat in front of
2:08:08
Speaker 2: a mirror, but they kind of, you know, they don't
2:08:10
Speaker 2: want to look at themselves in the mirror. It's very interesting.
2:08:14
Speaker 2: They don't want to see that reflection. And so yeah,
2:08:18
Speaker 2: I think we're the ones that look at that and
2:08:20
Speaker 2: we kind of see that. And speaking of mirrors, you
2:08:24
Speaker 2: look at this word maya, which is I mean, Maya
2:08:28
Speaker 2: is a Hindu word, it's a meso American word, and
2:08:31
Speaker 2: it's also a Commisian soof word, and in all three
2:08:35
Speaker 2: phases it means water, but in Hindi especially it also
2:08:39
Speaker 2: means illusion. So when you're looking at your reflection in
2:08:42
Speaker 2: the water, you're actually seeing an illusion of yourself. And
2:08:48
Speaker 2: so this is this is that reflection of Maya. Well,
2:08:51
Speaker 2: it also means love. Well to many people, love is
2:08:54
Speaker 2: an illusion. You know, you've got to love yourself, your
2:08:57
Speaker 2: reflection who you are, whether it's an external reflection or
2:09:01
Speaker 2: an internal reflection, before you can go out and love
2:09:03
Speaker 2: anybody else. Because if you haven't done that work, you're
2:09:06
Speaker 2: bringing your crappy energy onto somebody else's plate and you're
2:09:11
Speaker 2: projecting it on them and vice versa, and we've gotten
2:09:14
Speaker 2: so stuck in material possession and material reflection we don't recognize,
2:09:21
Speaker 2: you know, how ugly we can be to ourselves internally.
2:09:25
Speaker 2: I think we all need to stop and go ground
2:09:27
Speaker 2: ourselves with the earth. You know, walk outside, put your
2:09:31
Speaker 2: feet in the dirt, you know, take your shoes off,
2:09:33
Speaker 2: an act, you know, get those micronutrients in your lungs
2:09:40
Speaker 2: from from the forest or from from wherever you go.
2:09:42
Speaker 2: Just get out of these cities, because the cities are
2:09:45
Speaker 2: just they're grid structures and they're they're not set up properly.
2:09:50
Speaker 2: I mean, all of our piping systems are square and angular,
2:09:53
Speaker 2: but in nature you don't see angular water systems. Everything
2:09:56
Speaker 2: has a flow to it. And so when you're in
2:09:59
Speaker 2: somewhere like Switzerland or Austria in Europe, they build a
2:10:02
Speaker 2: lot of their houses with that flow of water intent
2:10:06
Speaker 2: versus angular structured piping. Everything has a flow. Most of
2:10:10
Speaker 2: the viping systems are angled at a downhill slope so
2:10:13
Speaker 2: that they can flow through your house naturally without having
2:10:15
Speaker 2: to be pumped. And we don't do that here. Everything
2:10:19
Speaker 2: is just this angular, broken grid structure. And so yeah,
2:10:22
Speaker 2: definitely get out, get out, go see things, Get out
2:10:25
Speaker 2: of the get out of the library, get into the field.
2:10:27
Speaker 2: As Indiana Jones always says.
2:10:29
Speaker 1: Angel angle right Elohim, Yeah, it's all I think it's
2:10:36
Speaker 1: all coded in our language. Thanks so much, Hans really
2:10:40
Speaker 1: appreciated brothers. Wonderful and fascinating conversation. Can you let people
2:10:44
Speaker 1: know where they can find you online? Plug your website.
2:10:47
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to pull your website up.
2:10:49
Speaker 2: Here, so it's called Megalithic Mysteries or Megamist. I have
2:10:54
Speaker 2: some of my adventures on there. I'm still updating it.
2:10:56
Speaker 2: It's just there's a lot of time that I haven't
2:10:59
Speaker 2: had recently, and this year is kind of being dedicated
2:11:01
Speaker 2: to doing some of that. I also review a lot
2:11:04
Speaker 2: of movies. I get into small blog posts about esoteric
2:11:06
Speaker 2: stuff in movies, as well as my travels. Either are
2:11:10
Speaker 2: my three books. You can find them on my website,
2:11:13
Speaker 2: but they link off to Lulu dot com, where I'm
2:11:15
Speaker 2: self published. I think they run it's like twenty five
2:11:18
Speaker 2: bucks apiece. They're about one hundred and eighty pages. They're
2:11:21
Speaker 2: introductories to these topics, but kind of my deep dive
2:11:24
Speaker 2: into some of the knowledge that I've gotten into them.
2:11:27
Speaker 2: I also sell shirts and artwork that I've done at
2:11:30
Speaker 2: different sites that I've been at, where I've redrawn some
2:11:32
Speaker 2: of these sculptures and structures and then put my own
2:11:36
Speaker 2: flyer and twist into them. The shirt I'm wearing right
2:11:38
Speaker 2: now is one that I've designed as well. And then
2:11:41
Speaker 2: this is, yeah, my blogs on different movies. So I
2:11:45
Speaker 2: get into Star Wars total recall all sorts of stuff.
2:11:48
Speaker 2: I keep finding stuff and it pops out at me
2:11:50
Speaker 2: more and more when I go through movies and I'm like, oh,
2:11:52
Speaker 2: I gotta write that one down. I just did one
2:11:55
Speaker 2: about the new Star Wars Skeleton Crew, borrowing heavily from
2:11:59
Speaker 2: National GM Graphic and so on and so forth. So
2:12:04
Speaker 2: Megalithic Mysteries or megamist dot com for shorthand of that.
2:12:09
Speaker 2: I'll be speak speaking early February at Conscious Life Expo.
2:12:13
Speaker 2: I was supposed to be in the rabbit Hole room,
2:12:14
Speaker 2: but I think I'm in the room next to it.
2:12:16
Speaker 2: So that's Friday the seventh. I'll be there from noon
2:12:18
Speaker 2: until one fifteen, and then I'll be hanging out networking
2:12:21
Speaker 2: with everybody else. I'll have all my books there for sale,
2:12:24
Speaker 2: and I'll look forward to meeting people there. Then we'll
2:12:27
Speaker 2: be at Alien event and BioMed Expo in the middle
2:12:30
Speaker 2: of April. I'm also in La that will be at
2:12:33
Speaker 2: I believe it's at the Sunnista for sure, stop in
2:12:37
Speaker 2: my head. And then I speak in New Mexico in August,
2:12:43
Speaker 2: and you know, helping open to get some other events
2:12:45
Speaker 2: going and some other speaking gigs. But it's often difficult
2:12:48
Speaker 2: because I do full time graphic design. I work for
2:12:51
Speaker 2: some pretty big clients, and breaking away from a fifteen
2:12:54
Speaker 2: to twenty hour day schedule sometimes it's difficult. Yeah, I
2:12:58
Speaker 2: feel that.
2:12:59
Speaker 1: Bro As an editor, Holy crap, there's so much to
2:13:02
Speaker 1: do and not enough hours in the day. Really quickly,
2:13:05
Speaker 1: JK says, is breathing a technology, Absolutely it is. You
2:13:09
Speaker 1: can get into all kinds of different states of consciousness
2:13:12
Speaker 1: through doing breath work. I've done it. I've come really
2:13:17
Speaker 1: close to getting outside in my body. And you can
2:13:19
Speaker 1: literally unlock natural DMT in your brain without actually yes,
2:13:25
Speaker 1: doing DMT.
2:13:26
Speaker 2: Even going to a sound bath or sound healing can
2:13:29
Speaker 2: do that. I mean, if you're sitting in front of
2:13:30
Speaker 2: those bowls while they're while they're oscillating them, you will
2:13:33
Speaker 2: crack into your opinion land like you've never felt you'd
2:13:36
Speaker 2: be like, what was that? WHOA, I just had a
2:13:38
Speaker 2: rush of conscious energy I've never felt before. But yeah,
2:13:43
Speaker 2: so that's that's mostly where you can find me. I
2:13:45
Speaker 2: do graphic design and multimedia for a lot of clients.
2:13:48
Speaker 2: I like to help out people in this field and
2:13:51
Speaker 2: industry as well, because there's a lot of presenters and
2:13:53
Speaker 2: I see a lot of ways that they can improve
2:13:55
Speaker 2: on their presentations and make them a little more succinct
2:13:58
Speaker 2: so you're not reading you one hundred million and some
2:14:00
Speaker 2: words on a screen and they can actually talk to
2:14:01
Speaker 2: more of a visual presentation. So if anybody's interested in
2:14:04
Speaker 2: graphic art and graphic design, please look me up. And yeah,
2:14:08
Speaker 2: otherwise that's that's where you can find me. And I
2:14:10
Speaker 2: appreciate this time with you writer, and this has been great.
2:14:13
Speaker 2: I love to do it again and get into some
2:14:15
Speaker 2: other topics, but yeah, for.
2:14:16
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2:14:20
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