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  Speaker 1: Welcome to pick up and deliver the podcast where I
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  Speaker 1: pick up my audio recorder as I step out for
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  Speaker 1: a walk and deliver an episode. Do you while I
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  Speaker 1: stroll around. I'm Brendan Riley. Greetings friends. It's a lovely
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  Speaker 1: day here in suburban Chicago. I am out for a walk,
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  Speaker 1: having a nice stroll, and interested in talking to you
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  Speaker 1: about some board games. The summer is upon us. I
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  Speaker 1: am currently in summer teaching mode, in summer research and
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  Speaker 1: writing mode, in summer program management mode, getting ready for vacation,
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  Speaker 1: enjoying myself on a stroll, looking at the world with
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  Speaker 1: bright eyes and a bushy tail. It's a busy week
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  Speaker 1: around my family. We've got a bunch of stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: We have in laws visiting. My mother was visiting and
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  Speaker 1: just left. I'm mom and so I have this one
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  Speaker 1: short window about two hours where there's no guests at home.
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  Speaker 1: So I am taking a quick walk to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the pod, talk about board games, a little bit, stretch
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  Speaker 1: my legs, and then yeah, so that's what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's summer term. We just ended the semester. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I might make an episode about colleges, schools academia
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  Speaker 1: that sort of thing, and I started doing that, and
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  Speaker 1: there are a couple games that I think I will
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  Speaker 1: talk about in the context of college, school, academia, that
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  Speaker 1: sort of thing, but I found it. Actually it's books.
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  Speaker 1: Books is the subject that I need to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And I look and I have not done an episode
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  Speaker 1: about books, as far as I can find. I searched libraries, books,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of various terms, academia, school around in the
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  Speaker 1: podcast archive, and I can't find anything where I've done
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  Speaker 1: an episode about books. So this episode is a theme storm,
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  Speaker 1: which is a episode where I focus on an idea
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  Speaker 1: or a concept or a theme and talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about how that appears in board games. So the
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  Speaker 1: theme start of books and libraries turns out to be huge.
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  Speaker 1: I own one, two, three, four, five six games right now.
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  Speaker 1: I have six games in my collection that are explicitly
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  Speaker 1: about libraries or about books. I also have two games
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  Speaker 1: that are three games that I have previously owned that
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  Speaker 1: were about libraries and books, and I got rid of
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  Speaker 1: them because they weren't good enough to keep I guess
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And I've played another three four games about
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  Speaker 1: libraries and books, and I have another one two, three
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  Speaker 1: four on my list that I need to play. That's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of games about libraries and books. That's not
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  Speaker 1: even the half of it. If you go to the
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  Speaker 1: libraries and Books theme link family link on Board Game Geek,
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  Speaker 1: there are six pages of board games with that theme,
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  Speaker 1: and the page usually has fifty entries to page. So
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  Speaker 1: that's three hundred games that have this tag. That's fascinating
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  Speaker 1: to me. So let's talk about a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I would start with I'll talk about the games
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  Speaker 1: that I have that are about libraries and books. I'll
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  Speaker 1: start with libraries, and then we'll talk about books and
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what's going on in these books.
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  Speaker 1: So the games that I have that are about libraries
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  Speaker 1: ex Libris Anthum the Mystic Library. Those two are games
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  Speaker 1: about organizing books in a library or collecting books in
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  Speaker 1: a library. Ex Libris, you are gathering books and building
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  Speaker 1: a collection in your library Annthium. Same thing. You're organizing
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  Speaker 1: the collection of books in the Mystic Library. So the
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  Speaker 1: idea of organizing the library is the theme. They add
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  Speaker 1: a kind of magic element to it to make it
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  Speaker 1: a little more exciting. I guess it's more fun if
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  Speaker 1: you're in the Hogwarts Library than if you're or the
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  Speaker 1: library in The Wizard of Earth'sy, or oh, the library
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  Speaker 1: in the Name of the Wind, Oh, that library that
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  Speaker 1: the main character explores while he's at the Wizard School.
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  Speaker 1: That one's pretty cool. So there's something fun and mystical
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  Speaker 1: about books generally, and then being in the library specifically,
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  Speaker 1: I think is excellent. In ex Libris, are you have
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  Speaker 1: a special power, You have a couple assistant library and
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  Speaker 1: library people, and what you're trying to do is collect
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  Speaker 1: books for your personal library without getting too many restricted
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  Speaker 1: books where you get in trouble. And then in an ntheum,
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to arrange the books in your library and
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  Speaker 1: you're messing with the arrangement of the people on either
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  Speaker 1: side of you. Ex Libris is better there. Although when
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  Speaker 1: I have the first edition and the player powers are
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  Speaker 1: really imbalanced, we actually divided them into low power and
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  Speaker 1: high power groups, because if one person had a high
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  Speaker 1: power character, the other people had low power characters. It's
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  Speaker 1: just there wasn't close. The special things you could do
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  Speaker 1: with your high power character were just so much better.
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  Speaker 1: There are also books about sort of a kerfuffle in
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  Speaker 1: the library. My favorite of these is The Big Book
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  Speaker 1: of Madness, which is about a bunch of students who
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  Speaker 1: go into the library and they accidentally access books they
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't access, and they cause all kinds of trouble they're
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  Speaker 1: in the library. This is of course also the plot
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  Speaker 1: I believe of Mythic Mischief, although in Mythic Mischief you're
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  Speaker 1: messing with each other and trying to mess with the library,
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  Speaker 1: so sort of there are two sides of the same coin.
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  Speaker 1: In Big Book of Madness, you have unleashed something in
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  Speaker 1: the library and you're trying to stop it. In Mythic Mischief,
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  Speaker 1: you're running around in the library causing trouble. So both
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  Speaker 1: games are about kids at a wizarding school in the
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  Speaker 1: magical library. It's just how are you interacting with each
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  Speaker 1: other and with that library. I have played more than
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  Speaker 1: one game about the Library of Alexandria burning down. One
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  Speaker 1: of them was called Alexandria. It's a game I had
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  Speaker 1: a couple times. I thought it was fine, but not great,
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  Speaker 1: so it went on the trading pile. And then I
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  Speaker 1: do have a friend who had a copy of the
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  Speaker 1: game Fire in the Library, which we played one time
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and I thought it was fun.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, not my game. So I have played
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  Speaker 1: a couple of games specifically about the Library of Alexandria
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  Speaker 1: burning down. And then there is one more game called
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  Speaker 1: Great Library, which is specifically about managing the Great Library
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  Speaker 1: of Alexandria. This is a vital asserta game that's due
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  Speaker 1: to come out next year, I believe so, or it
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  Speaker 1: might maybe maybe later this year. So that is not
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  Speaker 1: when I've played yet, obviously, but it seems like in
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  Speaker 1: the same vein as these other games. So what I
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  Speaker 1: think is interesting about games about libraries? Obviously the theme
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  Speaker 1: is meant to appeal to us as people who enjoy libraries.
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  Speaker 1: The idea of all of this knowledge available at your fingertips,
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  Speaker 1: but it is sort of forbidden and you have to
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  Speaker 1: pay a price to use it. The idea of whimsical
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  Speaker 1: activity in a place of seriousness is always funny, right.
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  Speaker 1: There's the scene in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade
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  Speaker 1: where India is trying to break through the floor of
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  Speaker 1: the library and the library and every time he stamps
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  Speaker 1: the book, it's making a huge thunderous noise. If you
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen it, you should watch Indiana Jones in the
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  Speaker 1: Last Crusade it's great. But I think that the point
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  Speaker 1: here is the library represents this place of seriousness and
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  Speaker 1: contempt contemplation, and so there's a fun idea to be
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  Speaker 1: messing around in there or causing trouble. The antithesis of
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  Speaker 1: those two things, or the contradiction of those two things,
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  Speaker 1: I think really works. I think there's also an element
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  Speaker 1: of collecting, right. Libraries overlap with libraries are like public collection.
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  Speaker 1: There are public collections of books. Often people who collect
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  Speaker 1: books like to collect more books. There's the old I
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  Speaker 1: think it's Aristotle quote. It's not Aristotle. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: look up who the quote is. There's an old quote
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  Speaker 1: that says, when I have money, I buy books. If
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  Speaker 1: I have money left over, I'll sometimes buy food. Future
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  Speaker 1: Brendan here the correct quote is when I have a
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  Speaker 1: little money, I buy books, and if I have any
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  Speaker 1: left I buy food in clothes. And that's attributed to
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  Speaker 1: desiderious Erasmus Rotrodamus. The idea of collecting books has been
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  Speaker 1: around for a long time, which leads me to the
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  Speaker 1: second category of games about books that I have. Not
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  Speaker 1: only do we have the whole bunch of games about
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  Speaker 1: public libraries or lot managing libraries. But I also have
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of games just about managing books. For example,
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  Speaker 1: probably the one that comes to mind the most is
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  Speaker 1: the one I last year at en Con A place
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  Speaker 1: for all my books. This is a game specifically about
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  Speaker 1: collecting books managing books. In the game, you really you
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  Speaker 1: just get points for rearranging your books, which is, if
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  Speaker 1: you're somebody who collects books a thing you like to do.
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  Speaker 1: I will say that it's not surprising board gamers like this.
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  Speaker 1: This is a thing board gamers like to do as well.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly am sometimes enamored of the idea of taking
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  Speaker 1: all of my games off the shelf and rearranging them
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  Speaker 1: to try to figure out I don't know a better
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  Speaker 1: way to keep them or whatever. In fact, I do
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  Speaker 1: that at a minimal level fairly often anyway, because of
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  Speaker 1: the way that I call games from my library opens
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  Speaker 1: up space on the shelves. I put more games into
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  Speaker 1: those spaces. I move things around to maximize shelf space
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  Speaker 1: or use of shelf space, that sort of thing. All
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  Speaker 1: that means that how we interact with our collection is
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  Speaker 1: part of what people who collect board games like and
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  Speaker 1: people who like collect books like, And it's not surprising
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  Speaker 1: there's some overlap there, but yeah, so A Place for
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  Speaker 1: All My Books is specifically a game about collecting and
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  Speaker 1: rearranging books, which is actually part of what makes the
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  Speaker 1: library games like Anthem or n n Them and Ex
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  Speaker 1: Libris appealing is that they are about collecting. Another game
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  Speaker 1: that's about collecting that I've played a couple times on
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  Speaker 1: board game Arena. I didn't buy it because I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was fine, but I have enough fine games is
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  Speaker 1: My Shelfie. My Shelfie is a game about organizing your shelf.
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of like a gamer's Connect four. It's got
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more heft to it, but you are
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  Speaker 1: arranging things. You're dropping them, dropping them down from the
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  Speaker 1: top and arranging things in your shelf. And the idea
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  Speaker 1: is the relationships between the different things in your shelf
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  Speaker 1: get you points. It's a cute little game. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's Phil Walker Harding is the designer, so it's not
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  Speaker 1: surprising it's a cute little game that's his. Bailey Wick
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  Speaker 1: definitely a game worth trying. I did notice when I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at this there is a My shelfye the
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  Speaker 1: Dice game also, so apparently people really like that one.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe those are the only two games I can think
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  Speaker 1: of that are about arranging books, But then I have
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  Speaker 1: a number of other games that are about books in
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  Speaker 1: different ways. There are book book themed games that are
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  Speaker 1: word games. The height of this one is Illiterate. This
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  Speaker 1: is a real time cooperative word game in which you
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  Speaker 1: are trying to create words that are themed around the
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  Speaker 1: in order to meet these goals that are on books.
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  Speaker 1: The idea is you're in a sort of Fahrenheit four
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  Speaker 1: fifty one world. Book police have been destroying books, and
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to keep them alive, and you and your
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  Speaker 1: friends are managing to keep the books alive by rearranging
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  Speaker 1: making these words out of them. Another game that another
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  Speaker 1: word game that uses a book theme is Fiction. This
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  Speaker 1: is a small box game. It's basically Wordle with a Trader,
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  Speaker 1: or if you think about Wordle as a word themed Mastermind,
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  Speaker 1: think about Mastermind with a Trader. Essentially, what you doing
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  Speaker 1: is you're playing Wordle. You're trying to solve a word,
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  Speaker 1: and the opponent, the person who made the word, is
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  Speaker 1: allowed to lie, but they have a limit to how
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  Speaker 1: they can how they can lie, and so you can
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  Speaker 1: figure out the way that they're lying by forcing them
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  Speaker 1: to answer questions in a certain way, and the mix
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  Speaker 1: of those things ends up being really effective. That is
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  Speaker 1: one that we did own. We only played it a
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  Speaker 1: few times and it wasn't getting much play, so we
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  Speaker 1: moved it along. Actually I don't know if we did.
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  Speaker 1: It was a present for my daughter. She may have
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  Speaker 1: taken it to college with her, in which case it's
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  Speaker 1: not in my collection anymore. But it's still as a
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  Speaker 1: game I could have access to. I don't remember that
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  Speaker 1: one's called fiction. And then I have a number of
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  Speaker 1: other games that are themed around book making or the
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  Speaker 1: manufacture of books, or other book theme. So, for example,
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  Speaker 1: Paperback in Hardback are deck Builders by Tim Fowers that
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  Speaker 1: are themed around writing books. You are coming up with
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  Speaker 1: the words, it's a oh, they're another word themed game,
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  Speaker 1: but the cards you're playing, I'll have books on them,
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  Speaker 1: and the theme is around being a writer. Hard Back
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  Speaker 1: in particular is the one I've played most, and it
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  Speaker 1: has categories of book and the category helps shape the
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  Speaker 1: value of the books or whatever, sort of like the
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  Speaker 1: different categories of characters in Marvel Legendary shaped what you
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  Speaker 1: could do with those characters. A similar gambit. The last
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  Speaker 1: of the games about books that I used to own
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  Speaker 1: but don't anymore, as Biblios. Biblios is an auction game,
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  Speaker 1: but the theme is that you are medieval monks doing
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  Speaker 1: something with books. I don't know exactly what, but medieval
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  Speaker 1: monks and books is the theme, and so Biblios you are.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really interesting, really them of a game where
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  Speaker 1: you the first half of the game, you are taking
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  Speaker 1: three cards and you keep one, put one in an
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  Speaker 1: auction pile, and I don't remember what you do with
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  Speaker 1: the third one, maybe give it to somebody else or
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  Speaker 1: discarded or something. It's been a little while. But the
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  Speaker 1: interesting thing is you are taking some books, discarding other books,
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  Speaker 1: and then in the second half of the game, the
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  Speaker 1: books that you took become your currency forbidding in the
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  Speaker 1: auction to get the books in the auction, and your
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  Speaker 1: goal is to acquire certain combinations of books, and the
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  Speaker 1: different values of books score because there's these dice that
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  Speaker 1: go up and down that determine how much the different
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  Speaker 1: values of the dice score. It's a very clean game,
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  Speaker 1: really good. I thought it was fun, but nobody wanted
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  Speaker 1: to play it, so I ended up moving along just
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  Speaker 1: so I could try other games since it wasn't getting played.
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  Speaker 1: That's Biblios. And then there are a few games that
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  Speaker 1: have listed here. Three others that I want to try
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  Speaker 1: but haven't had to try an opportunity to try yet.
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  Speaker 1: One of these is Books of Time. This is a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting book game that looks like a sort of
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  Speaker 1: engine builder, but it's also got a time travel theme,
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  Speaker 1: and in it you are actually making putting together books.
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  Speaker 1: The game comes with these little spiral bound card holder books,
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  Speaker 1: and as the game goes along, when you acquire cards,
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  Speaker 1: you put them into your book, and so there's an
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  Speaker 1: element of turning the pages on your Book of Time
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  Speaker 1: or whatever cards are showing you can use them in
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  Speaker 1: some way. I haven't investigated it really closely yet, but
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  Speaker 1: it is a game I would enjoy playing if I
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  Speaker 1: got an opportunity. That's Books of Time. Another one that
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in is Gutenberg. This is a crunchy euro
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  Speaker 1: game themed around the designer or the inventor of the
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  Speaker 1: movable type press. Of course, there's a lot to say
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  Speaker 1: that this Gutenberg's Press was an amalgamation of a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of other things that people were doing, as is the
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  Speaker 1: case for most big inventions, but Gutensberg. Gutenberg's name was
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  Speaker 1: the one that stuck, and it changed the way the
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  Speaker 1: world makes books, so certainly worth thinking about in the
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  Speaker 1: context of books. I don't know how much of what's
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  Speaker 1: going on in the game has to do with books.
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  Speaker 1: I'm unclear on that one, but it seems it does
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  Speaker 1: seem like something worth exploring. That's Gutenberg. I already mentioned
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  Speaker 1: Great Library. The other one and this one I put
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  Speaker 1: in this list because of the components is Alma Mater.
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  Speaker 1: Alma Mater is from the same design studio that did coinbra.
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  Speaker 1: I think they did hire the same artists, Chris Williams
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  Speaker 1: maybe to do the art for Alma Water. It looks
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  Speaker 1: very much like Coinbrad infacted to kind of look like
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  Speaker 1: they go together, although gameplay wise they're pretty different. I've
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  Speaker 1: tried a couple times to get al moditor the table,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a little on the complicated side, and I
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  Speaker 1: haven't wielded enough influence to really make it happen yet.
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  Speaker 1: But in that game, you are a professor and you're
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  Speaker 1: working on an institution, and you're publishing things, and the
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  Speaker 1: books are these tiny little book tokens that you're accumulating
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  Speaker 1: and passing around and so on. It's pretty neat. In
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  Speaker 1: a related note, now that I think about it in
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  Speaker 1: unconscious mind, one of the things you do is publish
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  Speaker 1: your ideas. And when you publish your ideas, they use
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  Speaker 1: a little cards that have stacks of books on them
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  Speaker 1: as a way to keep track of who's published what
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  Speaker 1: in the books kind of line up and order. So
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  Speaker 1: there's another game that uses books as a component, but
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  Speaker 1: that's a really relatively minor piece of the game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's significant for points, but the game doesn't. When you
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  Speaker 1: think about the game, it doesn't be like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is a game about publishing or about books, whereas I
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  Speaker 1: think Gutenberg would be an alma mater definitely is. There's
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff, but the big thing is
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  Speaker 1: how do the books circulate? You sure ideas with one another.
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  Speaker 1: So what does all this mean? Like I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: I think that there is a really interesting overlap between
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  Speaker 1: the collecting impulse in book readers and the collecting impulse
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  Speaker 1: in board game readers. I don't think it hurts that
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  Speaker 1: books and board games both go nicely on shelves, and
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  Speaker 1: part of what makes them interesting is that they look
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  Speaker 1: good on shelves. The shelves themselves become display items, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't need a secondary display set up. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you collected fun copops, I guess those can go on
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  Speaker 1: shelves too. If you made model airplanes, you have to
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  Speaker 1: think of a way to display them beyond the collection.
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  Speaker 1: So there's that. I think there is, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: a cultural societal connection between books and the potential for learning,
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  Speaker 1: the collection of knowledge. There is in the long history
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  Speaker 1: of humankind humankind's relationship with books, the idea that books
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  Speaker 1: hold secrets, which is why magical library feels so sensible
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  Speaker 1: as an idea, The idea that spells written on pages
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  Speaker 1: could burst forth with magical ideas. It occurs to me.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, evil books is a whole other category. It's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: not a thing I have. I can't think of any
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: games I have about evil books, except the Big Book
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of Madness. But like the whole Evil Dead series is
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: about people finding an evil book or a book full
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of evil spells, reading those spells out loud, and then
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  Speaker 1: encountering trouble because they read those spells out loud. I mean,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the real lesson here is, don't read those spells out loud,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and it's funny as a As a I think relatively
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sensible person who does not believe in the supernatural, there
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: are still things I just won't do just because, like,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I don't really want to solve any weird puzzle boxes,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: particularly if they look anything anything at all like the
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  Speaker 1: Lament configuration from hell Blazer. Sorry not Hellblazer, hell Razor.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Do they look anything like the Lament configuration puzzle box
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  Speaker 1: from hell Raiser, I'm not solving them, No, thank you. Second,
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  Speaker 1: if I find a creepy old book written in Latin,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not reading the Latin out loud, No thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anything's going to happen. But jeez, Pascal's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: wager really jumps up there. There is a real downside
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  Speaker 1: to reading it out loud in that if it turns
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  Speaker 1: out it's real, now you got demons chasing you. I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: don't want demons chasing me. I don't have a lot
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of books about evil books or games about evil books,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but it does sort of fit this idea that books
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: have this secret mystical power and thus they be I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: interesting in the context of how do you make a game,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: how do you make an interactive object something fun? Well,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: that's about it for me, I'm curious, listener, what games
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  Speaker 1: about books have I missed? Which of these games do
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you think are really fun? Do you like games about books? Why?
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  Speaker 1: nine and share your thoughts about games about books. I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: would love to hear them. If you want to send
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: me a message, you can message me directly on board
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: game geek Wombat nine two nine is my username there.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You could also send me a message by email. Brendan
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: at Rattlebox Games is the address I land at. There's
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the email address I check, and you can play a
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: game with me on Boardgamerina or Youkatta dot dee Wombat
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  Speaker 1: nineteen nine is my user name there as well. When
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say thank you for joining me on my walk today,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I hope your next walk is as posing as mind
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