Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 10th February 2025

Transcript

UK Column News Podcast 10th February 2025 · UK Column Radio

0:08
Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday the tenth February twenty twenty five,
0:12
Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Column News. I'm
0:16
Speaker 1: your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to be joined by Diane
0:19
Speaker 1: Rasmusen mcaddie who'll be speaking to us by link from Edinburgh.
0:24
Speaker 1: And we've also got Ben Rubin talking to us today
0:27
Speaker 1: from London. Plus we have a special guest. Now we're
0:31
Speaker 1: going to get started right away with the subject of
0:36
Speaker 1: the Lucy let Me trial again. Now we weren't expecting
0:39
Speaker 1: to do this, but I'm going to say over the
0:41
Speaker 1: weekend I was provided with some really exceptional information by
0:46
Speaker 1: an individual who watches the UK Column on a regular basis,
0:50
Speaker 1: and they were aware both of the Bonnie Lewis story
0:53
Speaker 1: that we mentioned and of course our special report last
0:57
Speaker 1: Monday on the connection between Bonnie Leeue, the Bonnie Lewis
1:02
Speaker 1: case and Lucy let Me's trial. So this of course
1:05
Speaker 1: on screen was our flyer and all child snatching case
1:08
Speaker 1: takes on new meaning for Lucy's trial, and this was
1:12
Speaker 1: an exclusive report. And we're also giving praise to Unhurt
1:16
Speaker 1: who had spoken to us and that resulted in UK
1:21
Speaker 1: Column checking out some of our archive material. Now, if
1:24
Speaker 1: you're new to the reports, I'm just going to recap
1:28
Speaker 1: very very briefly key facts of the Bonnie Lewis case
1:32
Speaker 1: that we reported back in nineteen ninety eight that the
1:36
Speaker 1: young girl was very ill, she was in severe pain,
1:39
Speaker 1: and her mother continually was continually striving to get a
1:44
Speaker 1: diagnosis and obviously get that pain treated. Into the picture
1:48
Speaker 1: came Dr Dewey Evans, expert witness in the Lucy let
1:53
Speaker 1: Be trial, and he effectively took control of the child
1:58
Speaker 1: protection team and blocked them from independent medical advice. But
2:03
Speaker 1: most importantly, he labeled her essentially attention seeking by proxy
2:09
Speaker 1: to remove Bonnie from her mother. And we put up
2:14
Speaker 1: caught a lot of detail about this case. Let's just
2:16
Speaker 1: put this one up on. This was the report that
2:19
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, July the twenty fifth, at the
2:23
Speaker 1: first Social Services Conference on the Bonnie Lewis case, Evans
2:29
Speaker 1: said that there was nothing wrong with Bonnie, but the
2:32
Speaker 1: mother was the problem. Now, the thing was that Bonnie
2:35
Speaker 1: had been intense pain for some considerable time with no diagnosis.
2:40
Speaker 1: What then took place was that Dr Dewey Evans maneuvered
2:45
Speaker 1: to actually get control of the case. And these are
2:49
Speaker 1: some of the notes that we put up on screen
2:51
Speaker 1: to show that the research was real. And here doctor
2:57
Speaker 1: Evans was saying, it was noted that the family have
2:59
Speaker 1: agreed to work with the child case individuals and they've
3:04
Speaker 1: decided not to enter the child's name on the child
3:07
Speaker 1: protection register. But effectively this was holding the family hostage
3:12
Speaker 1: to him and his particular designs on the case. And
3:16
Speaker 1: later on, even though Dr Guey Evans knew that Bonnie
3:20
Speaker 1: was unwell and he was one of the individuals that
3:23
Speaker 1: had failed to diagnose her illness, it was the mother
3:26
Speaker 1: who was then attacked. And he was casually saying here
3:30
Speaker 1: that if the girl was well, which he certainly was not,
3:34
Speaker 1: she should be at school. And finally, this is part
3:39
Speaker 1: of the text where he describes the mother as attention
3:43
Speaker 1: seeking by proxy, and that was the label that subsequently
3:47
Speaker 1: meant that social services teams took control of the daughter. Now,
3:54
Speaker 1: thanks to an individual overseas who had been following both
3:58
Speaker 1: cases and the lad Uk column report, I'm going to
4:02
Speaker 1: share this with our audience and I just find this
4:06
Speaker 1: quite incredible. This is a report from Monday the nineteenth
4:10
Speaker 1: November nineteen ninety it's from the South Wales Evening Post
4:14
Speaker 1: and the key headline on the left is child abuse
4:18
Speaker 1: jail Worry. The full article I've just brought up on
4:21
Speaker 1: screen for you to see. But let's take some of
4:24
Speaker 1: the information out of this because it features the very
4:27
Speaker 1: same Dr Dewey Evans. And in the article, which is
4:31
Speaker 1: talking about the setting up of a unit to basically
4:35
Speaker 1: help support children who've been abused, Dr Dewey Evans is
4:40
Speaker 1: quoted as saying that many perpetrators of sexual acts with
4:43
Speaker 1: young children do not understand and cannot be made to
4:48
Speaker 1: understand that they've done wrong. He goes on to say
4:53
Speaker 1: people's lack of guilt and ignorance of wrongdoing after sexually
4:56
Speaker 1: abusing children supported an argument for quote decriminalizing the offense.
5:04
Speaker 1: The article continued. Doctor Evans, leading child specialist at Morriston
5:09
Speaker 1: and Eath Hospitals, was speaking in his capacity as a
5:12
Speaker 1: West glam Morgan County councilor on a debate on a
5:15
Speaker 1: new initiative to help children overcome the trauma of being
5:20
Speaker 1: the innocent victims of abuse. So it's about helping victims
5:24
Speaker 1: of abuse, children who've been victims of child abuse. But
5:28
Speaker 1: Dr Dewey Adams is much more concerned with the perpetrators
5:32
Speaker 1: of that abuse. Let's have a look at how the
5:35
Speaker 1: article went on here. No one on the Children's Subcommittee
5:39
Speaker 1: was against the initiative. That's for the Unit for the Children,
5:43
Speaker 1: which is a county council partnership with National Children's Home
5:46
Speaker 1: starting next spring and costing more than five hundred thousand
5:50
Speaker 1: pounds to run over the next five years. It continues
5:57
Speaker 1: the Social Services Committee will now be wrecked recommended to
6:01
Speaker 1: finally approve the scheme, which also involves the purchase and
6:04
Speaker 1: fitting out of a project house, probably in the Port
6:08
Speaker 1: Talbot area where the incidence of child abuse is most
6:12
Speaker 1: rife in West Glamorgan. And then we come back onto
6:17
Speaker 1: the comments from Dr Dewey Evans counselor. Dr Evans described
6:23
Speaker 1: it this debate as a highly charged issue and said
6:27
Speaker 1: that there was an argument for decriminalizing sexual offenses against
6:32
Speaker 1: young children. We'll add to this as well, there are
6:36
Speaker 1: people who do not consider they've done anything wrong, that
6:39
Speaker 1: is with regard to sexualizing children, sexually abusing children. And
6:44
Speaker 1: you can't counsel someone who feels he's done nothing wrong. Now,
6:48
Speaker 1: at the end of the article, there was a quote
6:52
Speaker 1: from the Assistant Social Services Director, Colin Priest. He said
6:56
Speaker 1: he did not want to enter into the national a
7:00
Speaker 1: highly controversial debate on decriminalizing child sexual abuse, but he
7:06
Speaker 1: was effectively agreeing that the general experience was that abuses
7:11
Speaker 1: then carried out similar offenses on release. But the reason
7:15
Speaker 1: that we feel this is so important is here is
7:19
Speaker 1: Dr Dewey Evans clearly supporting people who've abused children. They
7:24
Speaker 1: appear to be his priority in this council meeting, over
7:28
Speaker 1: and above the children who have been abused. And yet
7:31
Speaker 1: whilst he's been supporting abusers in this debate, his whole
7:37
Speaker 1: focus in the Bonnie Lewis case was on removing a
7:42
Speaker 1: child from the protective mother who he accused of having problems.
7:47
Speaker 1: So he's happy to support abuses of abuse, sorry, those
7:52
Speaker 1: who have carried out abuse, But when we come to
7:54
Speaker 1: a mother who's desperately trying to protect her child, then
7:58
Speaker 1: he's much more or free. He's demonstrating that he's much
8:03
Speaker 1: happier to attack the mother themselves in order to get
8:07
Speaker 1: that child away from a loving home and into social
8:12
Speaker 1: security child protection system. So I think that we really
8:17
Speaker 1: have to ask some very big questions about this man personally.
8:21
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask if this man is safe to
8:24
Speaker 1: be working with children or indeed families, and seeing this
8:28
Speaker 1: against the background that the state is using him in
8:31
Speaker 1: the Lucy let Me trial. Is he credible? Is this
8:34
Speaker 1: man really credible as the state's expert witness? And Diane,
8:40
Speaker 1: if I can just ask you very quickly here, what's
8:44
Speaker 1: your opinion. You were kind enough to give some help
8:49
Speaker 1: having a look at the provenance of the article. The
8:52
Speaker 1: article is genuine, but what are your thoughts about what
8:57
Speaker 1: he had to say at that meeting?
9:00
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Brian. It's really important to check the source
9:04
Speaker 2: of any articles, especially when you have someone who sent
9:06
Speaker 2: something to you. You really do want to make sure that
9:09
Speaker 2: it is what it says it was, and I was
9:10
Speaker 2: able to confirm through There's a couple of databases online
9:14
Speaker 2: that provide archives of articles that I used through. This
9:18
Speaker 2: one was newspapers dot com. There's another one for specifically
9:22
Speaker 2: British newspapers, and you can frequently access these through your
9:25
Speaker 2: public library if you belong to your local library or
9:28
Speaker 2: local university library. So I would always suggest doing that.
9:32
Speaker 2: Reading those words as you said, when I looked at
9:35
Speaker 2: this for you yesterday. I was absolutely shocked. There's something
9:39
Speaker 2: so reminiscent of dare I say, Jimmy Savel kinds of things,
9:45
Speaker 2: saying well, these people aren't necessarily criminals, right, you know,
9:48
Speaker 2: is he making excuses for himself? Is he making excuses
9:51
Speaker 2: for whoever his mates are that might have been doing
9:54
Speaker 2: these kinds of things? And how can you possibly say that?
9:57
Speaker 2: And we're seeing that currently as well, with what we
10:00
Speaker 2: used to call pedophilia, now that the political correct term
10:04
Speaker 2: is minor attracted persons, minor attracted people, and there are
10:08
Speaker 2: academics and someone that are making excuses for these people
10:10
Speaker 2: saying well, they shouldn't be stigmatized. So I'm really quite
10:14
Speaker 2: concerned that with this trial going on and we can
10:18
Speaker 2: start what we can start to see about doctor Deuey
10:21
Speaker 2: Evans and what he said back then, what exactly is
10:24
Speaker 2: going on? And so I plan to continue working with
10:27
Speaker 2: you to investigate this man to see what else we
10:30
Speaker 2: can find that might potentially further question his credibility in
10:35
Speaker 2: the Lucy Lutpy case.
10:36
Speaker 1: As you've said, thank you for that. Done well, I'm
10:40
Speaker 1: just going to add a little bit to this. This
10:41
Speaker 1: is an old report from the UK column in two
10:44
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, when we've been reporting on the abuse
10:47
Speaker 1: of a down syndrome go called Holly Greg and in
10:51
Speaker 1: this particular article we pointed out that BBC Scotland had
10:57
Speaker 1: abruptly dropped their inquiries into the case of Holly Greg
11:01
Speaker 1: on the basis of mental health problems. Let's pot this
11:05
Speaker 1: up on screen so that we can see we wrote
11:08
Speaker 1: BBC suddenly decided to drop their investigation on the basis that,
11:14
Speaker 1: and this is the quote from the BBC themselves, we
11:17
Speaker 1: would be unable to defend a libel action from anyone
11:21
Speaker 1: we accuse of abuse when such a wealth and material
11:24
Speaker 1: exists to suggest that one of our principal contributors suffered
11:29
Speaker 1: mental health problems at the time when the allegations were
11:32
Speaker 1: first made. Now, the insidious nature of this quote from
11:36
Speaker 1: the BBC is the fact that in the Holly greg case,
11:39
Speaker 1: it was also the mother who had been trying to
11:43
Speaker 1: protect her daughter and had spoken out. It was the
11:48
Speaker 1: mother that was accused of mental health problems. In fact,
11:52
Speaker 1: she was grabbed from the doorway of her home. She
11:55
Speaker 1: had a needle with some drug stuck into a backside,
12:00
Speaker 1: and she was then taken unconscious to a psychiatric unit
12:04
Speaker 1: where she was accused of being mentally ill. The BBC
12:08
Speaker 1: did not want to investigate that and simply said, oh, well,
12:12
Speaker 1: she's been accused of mental health problems and that's the
12:15
Speaker 1: end of it. A similarity in a way with the
12:18
Speaker 1: Bonnie Lewis case. But if we go back to another
12:21
Speaker 1: report from the UK column, this is December twenty twelve,
12:25
Speaker 1: we were pointing out that the then politician Harriet Harmon
12:30
Speaker 1: was under an attack over a bid to water down
12:32
Speaker 1: child pornography laws, and she called on ministers to make
12:37
Speaker 1: sexually explicit photographs or films of children legal unless there
12:42
Speaker 1: was evidence that the subject had been harmed. At the
12:45
Speaker 1: time she made the official submission, she was a senior
12:48
Speaker 1: figure in a civil liberties organization that wanted the age
12:52
Speaker 1: of consent to be lowered to fourteen and incest decriminalized.
12:57
Speaker 1: It also defend itself, confessed in the press and allowed
13:01
Speaker 1: them press and allowed them to attend its meetings. And
13:06
Speaker 1: if we just put this in a bit more of
13:07
Speaker 1: a diagrammatic form, we had both Harriet Harmon as the
13:12
Speaker 1: legal officer of the National Council for Civil Liberties and
13:16
Speaker 1: we had the politician Patricia Hewitt as the General Secretary
13:20
Speaker 1: and National Council for Civil Liberties had been collected with
13:25
Speaker 1: the Pedophile Information Exchange and p Defile Action for Liberty.
13:30
Speaker 1: So our message really to our viewers and listeners today
13:34
Speaker 1: is that if we look into the establishment, and we
13:37
Speaker 1: look into the political establishment, we get little reassurance that
13:42
Speaker 1: the state is actually protecting children from abusers. And we've
13:47
Speaker 1: clearly got to do a lot more digging to get
13:50
Speaker 1: the truth up to the surface. But that is the
13:53
Speaker 1: connection today. Further, I think very concerning evidence coming to
14:00
Speaker 1: the surface that in the Lucy let Be case, at
14:03
Speaker 1: least expert witnesses not credible in our opinion or certainly
14:10
Speaker 1: deserving to be questioned of what their true beliefs and
14:13
Speaker 1: motives are, will leave that there, Diane. Probably the subject
14:20
Speaker 1: is can we trust the state? And of course you've
14:22
Speaker 1: been pointing out that many people in Scotland have been
14:28
Speaker 1: deeply concerned about COVID and the COVID lockdown, and you've
14:32
Speaker 1: got a special guest for us today.
14:36
Speaker 2: Yes I do, brand and you know, I just want
14:39
Speaker 2: everyone to be aware that in Scotland the restrictions, the
14:44
Speaker 2: lock up restrictions and everything else was much stricter up
14:48
Speaker 2: here and lasted for much longer than it did down
14:51
Speaker 2: south in England. And with that I want to introduce
14:54
Speaker 2: my guest today with Professor Richard Inoes. He's been interviewed
14:57
Speaker 2: previously by UK Carlem. I now work with him as
15:01
Speaker 2: an executive Committy Coquitty member of Common Knowledge genre which
15:04
Speaker 2: he chairs, and with that I would like to welcome
15:07
Speaker 2: Richard to the program. Richard, if you would maybe tell
15:10
Speaker 2: us a little bit about your background and what you're
15:12
Speaker 2: working on currently as the chair of Common Knowledge.
15:16
Speaker 3: My background is I was a professor of evolutionary biology.
15:20
Speaker 3: I've been retired about nine years now, but since twenty
15:27
Speaker 3: twenty March twenty twenty, I've been against all of the
15:33
Speaker 3: restrictions that have been placed on normal people in Scotland as
15:37
Speaker 3: a consequence of the COVID ninety, the alleged COVID nineteen disease.
15:44
Speaker 3: I've been involved in demonstrations. I've been involved in yellow
15:50
Speaker 3: board demonstrations. I've been involved in setting up Common Knowledge,
15:57
Speaker 3: which is an attempt to bring together people who want
16:01
Speaker 3: to know more about what's going on and so it's
16:03
Speaker 3: a kind of free speech group and we get to
16:07
Speaker 3: speak as from all over, different lots of different disciplines
16:10
Speaker 3: to try and understand what's going on and allow people
16:14
Speaker 3: to negotiate what's happening at the moment in the best
16:17
Speaker 3: possible way.
16:20
Speaker 2: So I think commonology is a very appropriate term for it,
16:22
Speaker 2: because it seems to me that with a lot of
16:25
Speaker 2: members of the public who are still buying into the
16:27
Speaker 2: COVID narrative, that common knowledge is something that we have
16:29
Speaker 2: lost over the past five years. It's just been absolutely
16:32
Speaker 2: amazing to me that people are still buying into it
16:35
Speaker 2: and they're still being afraid of the current propaganda that's
16:39
Speaker 2: coming out about the bird flu and the latest virus
16:42
Speaker 2: and all this. So I'm really really happy to be
16:45
Speaker 2: a part of your group. Why did you decide that
16:49
Speaker 2: it was necessary to create this event that we're hosting.
16:52
Speaker 2: It's on the twenty second of February for everyone who
16:55
Speaker 2: wants to attend in Edinburgh from basically nine am to
16:59
Speaker 2: four to thirty pml Lawrenston Hall, which is pretty close
17:01
Speaker 2: to the center of Edinburgh. Twenty five pounds includes tea, coffy,
17:06
Speaker 2: lunch and it's an all day event. So I know
17:09
Speaker 2: when you first contacted me about this last year, it
17:12
Speaker 2: was still just kind of an idea in your head
17:15
Speaker 2: that you hadn't fully flushed out yet. And I'm wondering
17:18
Speaker 2: if I could go back to that time you decided
17:20
Speaker 2: that you wanted to do this and we went and
17:21
Speaker 2: met for coffee. What was it that prompted you to
17:24
Speaker 2: think about creating this event?
17:28
Speaker 3: Well, I'd seen the testimonies that have been coming out
17:31
Speaker 3: from the official Scottish COVID nineteen inquiry and they are
17:36
Speaker 3: absolutely harrowing. And I read through all of the testimonies
17:40
Speaker 3: and I can tell you that I was in tears
17:42
Speaker 3: at times hearing about the harms that had been done
17:45
Speaker 3: by people as a consequence of the measures that were
17:49
Speaker 3: taken by the Scottish government in twenty nineteen, particularly those
17:54
Speaker 3: people in care homes, particularly the most vulnerable in care homes,
17:59
Speaker 3: and also other people in care And there are also
18:02
Speaker 3: many examples where people have been ill treated in hospital
18:06
Speaker 3: as well. And this inquiry has cost thirty million pounds
18:13
Speaker 3: so far, and there's barely a whisper of it in
18:17
Speaker 3: the mainstream media. And people need to know about what
18:20
Speaker 3: happened and need to reevaluate what happened.
18:24
Speaker 4: I think people.
18:25
Speaker 3: Are trying to memory hold that particular period of time.
18:29
Speaker 3: But it's absolutely essential that we understand what went on,
18:33
Speaker 3: and we want to We need to understand who made
18:36
Speaker 3: the decisions, where those decisions in any way justified, and
18:43
Speaker 3: what kind of harms were consequent upon them, and who
18:48
Speaker 3: should we in the end hold to account for those actions.
18:54
Speaker 3: And in order to do that, I think we need
18:55
Speaker 3: to have a conference where we drop all the assumptions
19:01
Speaker 3: or try and get rid of all the assumptions that
19:03
Speaker 3: have been fed into us by the propaganda, and in
19:07
Speaker 3: the absence of those assumptions, then maybe you can reevaluate
19:10
Speaker 3: exactly what happened and we can see who was actually
19:16
Speaker 3: responsible and what should be done in the future. The
19:20
Speaker 3: official inquiry assumes that there was a pandemic, and it
19:26
Speaker 3: assumes that it was a very dangerous disease that was
19:30
Speaker 3: at present, and that they were justified in doing this,
19:34
Speaker 3: and that's the ground from which all of the inquiry
19:38
Speaker 3: takes place. And then the inquiry is just about, well,
19:42
Speaker 3: how could we have done better next time? Well, I
19:45
Speaker 3: want to go back to at the beginning question those
19:49
Speaker 3: assumptions and get a true picture of really what happened.
19:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very very happy to be speaking at this conference,
19:59
Speaker 2: and the part that you asked me to do was
20:00
Speaker 2: around the media campaign, around the propaganda and the fear
20:04
Speaker 2: that was being raised, you know, and some of the
20:08
Speaker 2: work that I've been doing and looking at. I would
20:10
Speaker 2: say for any viewers who are watching us, please go
20:12
Speaker 2: back and look at the coverage from UK Column back
20:15
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, as those of
20:18
Speaker 2: us who watched UK Column during that time know that
20:21
Speaker 2: they were at the time, Mike and Brian and everyone
20:24
Speaker 2: on the team at that time was doing some of
20:26
Speaker 2: the best work possible to uncover the fear campaign. Despy
20:30
Speaker 2: Be the Stage, the Mindspace documentation, and you know, as
20:34
Speaker 2: a result of some of the prompting of some of
20:35
Speaker 2: our other members on the executive committee, I've got gone
20:38
Speaker 2: back even further into the film Contagion from twenty eleven
20:42
Speaker 2: that had the social distancing, it had the masks that
20:44
Speaker 2: the miracle vaccine that came out of nowhere, it had
20:47
Speaker 2: the stay at home. We can even go back into
20:50
Speaker 2: the nineties, so with the Outbreak film where there was
20:52
Speaker 2: a virus that I think escaped from monkeys and Africa
20:55
Speaker 2: or something like that, and so I think that this
20:59
Speaker 2: is something that they have been sort of priming a
21:01
Speaker 2: public for a while that there would be a pandemic,
21:04
Speaker 2: that there would be a virus. And Richard, if you
21:07
Speaker 2: would please explain to the audience as well that there
21:10
Speaker 2: are two words that you have told us as speakers
21:12
Speaker 2: that we're not allowed to say at the conference. Do
21:15
Speaker 2: you want to say what those are? And why?
21:18
Speaker 4: Yeah?
21:18
Speaker 3: Those two words. Those two words are pandemic and virus.
21:23
Speaker 3: So what people do is that they use pandemic in
21:28
Speaker 3: the term. They use it as a description of the time,
21:32
Speaker 3: they say during the pandemic, and that immediately concedes that
21:37
Speaker 3: there was a pandemic. And what we need to do
21:39
Speaker 3: is to go back and say, no, it was twenty twenty,
21:43
Speaker 3: what happened in twenty twenty, not what happened during the pandemic.
21:48
Speaker 3: The other word that we I want to expunge is
21:53
Speaker 3: virus because what we know about, all that we know
21:58
Speaker 3: about is something called COVID nineteen, which has nothing to
22:01
Speaker 3: do with the virus.
22:02
Speaker 1: It's a disease.
22:04
Speaker 3: The virus story is a possible explanation that has been
22:09
Speaker 3: put forward by those people in the government who wish
22:13
Speaker 3: us to believe that that what is responsible. But all
22:18
Speaker 3: we know about is that there was a disease, and
22:20
Speaker 3: we should talk about the disease, and we should question
22:24
Speaker 3: whether actually was there anything anything, any unusual disease, And
22:29
Speaker 3: we don't need to go into anything about viruses. That
22:32
Speaker 3: will just get us into controversies about whether or not
22:37
Speaker 3: viruses exist, and that's irrelevant. It's totally irrelevant. What is
22:40
Speaker 3: relevant is was there a disease that was really serious
22:44
Speaker 3: that we needed to worry about, And if we can
22:47
Speaker 3: show that there wasn't, then all talk of viruses is
22:52
Speaker 3: just diverting our attention away from what's really important.
23:00
Speaker 2: Yea. And what I would say to that as well
23:03
Speaker 2: is that my mother died in December of twenty twenty one.
23:06
Speaker 2: On a personal note, she did not die of a virus.
23:09
Speaker 2: She died because she went into a hospital for a
23:12
Speaker 2: little bit of bruising after a fall, and she died
23:15
Speaker 2: on a ventilator and she did not have a respiratory
23:20
Speaker 2: illness at the time. I know that much, But we
23:23
Speaker 2: did lose her sadly, So I'm really personally invested in
23:26
Speaker 2: this work as well. Thanks for so much for joining
23:29
Speaker 2: us today on the program, Richard. Unfortunately, we have to
23:32
Speaker 2: move on. But is there anything else that you wanted
23:33
Speaker 2: to add that we haven't covered.
23:37
Speaker 3: No, thank you very much, indeed for providing the publicity
23:41
Speaker 3: all those people who are in any way near Edinburgh
23:44
Speaker 3: and are lable to come along. We'd really like to
23:47
Speaker 3: see you at the conference. We will have question and
23:52
Speaker 3: answer sessions time for you to contribute to the knowledge
23:59
Speaker 3: that we need. So thank you very much, indeed for
24:02
Speaker 3: speaking with me today.
24:05
Speaker 2: Thank you, Richard, Thank.
24:10
Speaker 1: You very much, Diane, Thank you. Extremely interesting and isn't
24:14
Speaker 1: it fascinating that very quickly in that little interview clip
24:18
Speaker 1: we're back into the subject of truth and lies and propaganda.
24:23
Speaker 1: So Ben, what a good place to welcome you to
24:25
Speaker 1: the news today. We can't trust national news? Can we
24:30
Speaker 1: trust local news?
24:34
Speaker 4: Local? National? International?
24:36
Speaker 5: I don't think you can trust any of it unfortunately, Brian,
24:38
Speaker 5: apart from UK column, of course, let me just get
24:41
Speaker 5: that out there. So let me start with a quote
24:45
Speaker 5: which I love. It's a fantastic quote comes from hl Menken.
24:50
Speaker 5: Journalist is to politician as dog is to lamp post.
24:55
Speaker 5: And in that spirit I shall proceed. Let's talk about
24:59
Speaker 5: LDRs local democracy reporters.
25:02
Speaker 4: What are they? A fly on the wall?
25:05
Speaker 5: Reporter explaining what local government decisions actually mean. Also a
25:10
Speaker 5: reporter specializing in the workings of the local authority, a
25:15
Speaker 5: political reporter scrutinizing counsel's, police, NHS and other public bodies,
25:22
Speaker 5: holding local authorities to account and getting people to care.
25:27
Speaker 5: That all sounds great, doesn't it. Let's find out a
25:31
Speaker 5: little bit more about the LDR scheme.
25:35
Speaker 6: Local councils spend billions of pounds a year providing essential
25:39
Speaker 6: services which affect all our lives. They look after everything
25:43
Speaker 6: from bins to buses to social care. To know on
25:47
Speaker 6: what they're up to is vital. The number of local
25:50
Speaker 6: journalists report and our councils has been a steady decline,
25:54
Speaker 6: and that's where the Local Democracy Reportance Servers or LDRs
25:59
Speaker 6: comes in. The LDRs finds out stories about UK councils
26:03
Speaker 6: and shares them with hundreds of regional news providers across
26:07
Speaker 6: the country. Local news companies employ one hundred and sixty
26:12
Speaker 6: five local democracy reporters. The BBC pays for them and
26:16
Speaker 6: more than a thousand approved news outlests and then broadcast
26:21
Speaker 6: or publish their work. And that means you and me,
26:25
Speaker 6: wherever we live in the UK, get to hear about
26:28
Speaker 6: what our councils are doing in our name. It helps
26:32
Speaker 6: the local news industry, it helps the BBC, but most
26:36
Speaker 6: of all, it helps us all know what's going on
26:38
Speaker 6: where we live. You can find out more by going
26:44
Speaker 6: to BBC dot com forward slash LNP.
26:51
Speaker 7: Oh.
26:52
Speaker 5: Okay, so there's the BBC covering for local councils. That's
26:56
Speaker 5: what it turns out to be. Actually, if you go
26:58
Speaker 5: to the LDRs website and you look in the this
27:04
Speaker 5: is literally one page. This is all there is to
27:06
Speaker 5: the site. And in the top right hand corner you
27:08
Speaker 5: can click on terms and conditions, and in the bottom
27:10
Speaker 5: left you can click on frequently asked questions and it
27:13
Speaker 5: takes you directly to the BBC. Yeah, I think could
27:18
Speaker 5: stop working for some reason. Would you mind knocking knocking
27:23
Speaker 5: out in form we please, Brian? Yeah, okay, very good.
27:27
Speaker 5: So if you just whizz through those two yeah, it's
27:30
Speaker 5: it's BBC. It's a BBC operation. There are one hundred
27:34
Speaker 5: and sixty five of these people all across the UK,
27:37
Speaker 5: working at places like the Manaster Evening News, Patney Citizen,
27:41
Speaker 5: Liverpool Echo.
27:43
Speaker 4: And let's get a little taste.
27:45
Speaker 5: Of the kind of reporting that we can expect from
27:47
Speaker 5: these people, so we just click on to the next one. Ego,
27:55
Speaker 5: it's that kind of reporting. Yeah, so we just talked
27:58
Speaker 5: about the COVID that's what I like to call it,
28:01
Speaker 5: by the way, I think twenty twenty. Yeah, that's good,
28:04
Speaker 5: but let's call it the scenario or the operation, certainly
28:07
Speaker 5: not the pandemic. But you can see here in the
28:09
Speaker 5: mask a local democracy reporter talking about the local council's
28:14
Speaker 5: policy towards COVID and lockdown's It gives you a sense
28:18
Speaker 5: of what we're going to be getting from these people.
28:20
Speaker 5: And that's Charlotte Hall and she works at the Oldham
28:22
Speaker 5: Times and LDRs have been reported on by it for
28:26
Speaker 5: a while now by the UK column.
28:29
Speaker 4: They've been around for a couple of years.
28:30
Speaker 5: But this was flagged up to me in that interview
28:33
Speaker 5: I did a couple of weeks ago with Raja Mia.
28:35
Speaker 5: I hadn't personally heard of them before, but he mentioned
28:37
Speaker 5: that the Oldham Times actually employees a local democracy reporter.
28:42
Speaker 5: Is that lady we just saw in the mask Charlotte
28:45
Speaker 5: Hall And this is a recent article that she's published
28:51
Speaker 5: about council tax, which again think gives you a good
28:54
Speaker 5: sense of what these reporters are doing and the level
28:57
Speaker 5: of scrutiny that they're applying. If you want to just
28:59
Speaker 5: flick that fur again for me, please, Brian, that'd be fantastic.
29:02
Speaker 5: We can see a quote here about council tax going
29:05
Speaker 5: up in Oldham and he basically says after receiving five
29:08
Speaker 5: million pounds more from the government than first expected, Oldham
29:12
Speaker 5: is in a better financial position than first thought. That
29:15
Speaker 5: the local authority still needs to fill a fourteen million
29:18
Speaker 5: pound budget hole from this year and make more than
29:21
Speaker 5: eight million pounding cuts to stay in the green. So
29:23
Speaker 5: to do that, council chiefs will increase council tax by
29:27
Speaker 5: the maximum amount. The five percent or four point nine
29:30
Speaker 5: nine percent increase will see council tax bills rise by
29:33
Speaker 5: seventy seven pounds to one thousand and six and twenty
29:35
Speaker 5: eight per year for the lowest pan two hundred and
29:37
Speaker 5: thirty two pounds increase for the highest.
29:39
Speaker 4: Band up to nearly five pounds a year in counter tax.
29:42
Speaker 5: And this is just going to happen right, So essentially,
29:45
Speaker 5: based on the Oldham Times, what the local Democracy reporters
29:49
Speaker 5: are doing is just providing a mouthpiece, a platform for
29:52
Speaker 5: council policy. That's it, and he's all paid for by
29:56
Speaker 5: the BBC and it's all designed to progress the established gender.
30:01
Speaker 5: I think that's exactly what was happening here and what
30:04
Speaker 5: else was going on in Oldham at the time. What
30:06
Speaker 5: else was the council involved in apart from issuing demands
30:09
Speaker 5: small council tax. Well we know that, for example, they
30:12
Speaker 5: were covering up grooming gang scandal and they were.
30:16
Speaker 4: Publishing a number of hit pieces seventeen hit.
30:18
Speaker 5: Pieces in fact on Roger Meyer, who I interviewed a
30:21
Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, who was actually pointing out extraordinary
30:24
Speaker 5: levels of corruption in the council but being attacked by
30:28
Speaker 5: Oldham Times to employ a local democracy reporter, I think
30:31
Speaker 5: you get a good sense of what this is about, right,
30:34
Speaker 5: you know, and local media is in big trouble and
30:39
Speaker 5: this LDR scheme is absolutely at the center of it.
30:42
Speaker 5: I think council was particularly given that we're seeing councils
30:45
Speaker 5: now canceling elections. Yeah this year they're going to be
30:49
Speaker 5: canceling elections. There is an absolute crisis in local media
30:54
Speaker 5: and we need a completely completely new approach.
30:57
Speaker 4: Now, a bit of an update on the national.
30:58
Speaker 5: Media scene, I'm going to talk again about Tortoise and
31:04
Speaker 5: I need probably need to do a longer check in
31:06
Speaker 5: on them because there's a lot of stuff going on.
31:07
Speaker 5: But we spoke before Christmas about the fact that they
31:10
Speaker 5: just acquired The Observer and as an extension of that
31:14
Speaker 5: basically merged essentially with Guardian Media Group. They've just announced
31:19
Speaker 5: two co CEOs. You can see on the left Emauther
31:23
Speaker 5: Sullivan sorry, who was the MD of Tortoise, and on
31:26
Speaker 5: the right Richard Finess, who was the Chief Strategy and
31:29
Speaker 5: Business Development officer at the Guardian Media Group.
31:32
Speaker 4: He was there for twenty seven years.
31:33
Speaker 5: And those who are now going to be running Tortoise,
31:36
Speaker 5: they're going to be co chiefs of the Tortoise business.
31:39
Speaker 5: James Harding made a statement just click on one saying
31:42
Speaker 5: that establishing The Observer is an independent company is a
31:46
Speaker 5: once in a generation opportunity, which is interesting actually, James Harding,
31:50
Speaker 5: because it's not an independent company as we talked about previously,
31:53
Speaker 5: like you've basically merged with the Guardian Media Group, so
31:56
Speaker 5: you're being a bit liberal with the facts that I
31:59
Speaker 5: would say also in that art that it goes on
32:02
Speaker 5: to say that Tortoise has appointed Baja Cummings to the
32:06
Speaker 5: position of digital editor of the new daily online payward
32:10
Speaker 5: version of The Observer. As he's Beja Cummings and see
32:13
Speaker 5: her here. She's been leading the audio arm trs to
32:18
Speaker 5: studios where she was responsible for podcasts, and that includes
32:24
Speaker 5: responsible for publishing the takedown of ra Jamir that they
32:28
Speaker 5: published a couple of years ago now as well as
32:32
Speaker 5: host which badly misrepresented the Hampstead supposed hopes, missing out
32:38
Speaker 5: key medical evidence that demonstrated that the children in question
32:42
Speaker 5: were actually sexually abused. They just decided to remove that
32:45
Speaker 5: from their six hour long podcast episode, supposedly proving that
32:50
Speaker 5: that whole thing was a hope. She's been given a
32:53
Speaker 5: promotion as well. Also, going back to my report last week,
32:58
Speaker 5: I've been sent a really into link between actually taught
33:02
Speaker 5: to us media in Common Purpose. So if you remember
33:05
Speaker 5: I highlighted the existence of this strategic partnership between the
33:09
Speaker 5: University of Manchester and Common Purpose. Actually turns out that
33:16
Speaker 5: this gentleman, Nazir Afzau, is the Chancellor of the University
33:21
Speaker 5: of Manchester, so he would have established that partnership something
33:24
Speaker 5: he would have been responsible for. And this is a
33:27
Speaker 5: fascinating character. He's got an obe so this is proper
33:30
Speaker 5: establishment Feller. He's also the chair of the Safeguarding Committee
33:33
Speaker 5: at the Church of England. Interestingly, as a practicing Muslim,
33:37
Speaker 5: I find that absolutely bizarre.
33:38
Speaker 4: I think we're going to talk about that in extra
33:40
Speaker 4: And then.
33:41
Speaker 5: Before that he was the CEO of the Association of
33:43
Speaker 5: Police and Crime Commissioners, so these people who were supposed
33:46
Speaker 5: to be looking into things like brooming gangs, he was
33:48
Speaker 5: the chief executive of that. And before that he was
33:52
Speaker 5: the Chief Crown Prosecutor, and he used to work for
33:54
Speaker 5: Kirstarmer interestingly, and he used to set up this Common
33:58
Speaker 5: Purposing and he's got very close links to Taltis Media
34:01
Speaker 5: through a couple of appearances. One on this interviewed is
34:05
Speaker 5: up on YouTube talking about whether there's such a thing
34:07
Speaker 5: as a fair trial. And then also finally this we
34:12
Speaker 5: click on one we can see this live event in
34:15
Speaker 5: Manchester which took place last year talking about populism and
34:20
Speaker 5: essentially he was there to talk about the threats to
34:23
Speaker 5: democracy post by people like Donald Trump and he was
34:27
Speaker 5: interviewed by James Harding. Direct link to Common Purpose there
34:31
Speaker 5: from Taltis Media, which is the first time I've seen
34:33
Speaker 5: that and also interestingly something I'm going to come back
34:35
Speaker 5: to next week, so I've got time today. He was
34:37
Speaker 5: also on that panel with Joshi Herban from Mill Media.
34:41
Speaker 5: Who are the other people who are very aggressively going
34:44
Speaker 5: after Raja Meha. So local media, national media in big
34:48
Speaker 5: trouble right now.
34:50
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Bern And of course it's beholding
34:52
Speaker 1: on all of us to be watching very carefully what
34:56
Speaker 1: media is in existence and what they have to say.
34:59
Speaker 1: But certainly we've got huge suspicions about media conglomerations which
35:04
Speaker 1: are getting more and more powerful and controlling more and
35:07
Speaker 1: more of the news. We hear we will continue to report.
35:12
Speaker 1: Now a huge thank you as always to our supporters.
35:15
Speaker 1: We can only do what we do with your financial support.
35:18
Speaker 1: If you're already a member of UK column, thank you
35:22
Speaker 1: very much, but you can help us if not by
35:25
Speaker 1: making a donation. You can also, of course take out
35:30
Speaker 1: a monthly membership or an annual membership or a lifetime
35:35
Speaker 1: as many people do. All of those things are good
35:38
Speaker 1: to help, and of course you can also help by
35:40
Speaker 1: purchasing through the shop. And we like to remind people
35:44
Speaker 1: that we have Clive Decal health products and we do
35:48
Speaker 1: make a small percentage on purchases of those health products
35:52
Speaker 1: through the shop. But the most important thing probably is
35:55
Speaker 1: that the material we produce is to be shared in
35:59
Speaker 1: order to help inform and educate people. And we're doing
36:04
Speaker 1: this as widely as we can. But if you, the
36:07
Speaker 1: viewers members of UK column will help us by sharing material,
36:11
Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. Now, a key announcement is the
36:15
Speaker 1: tickets for UK Columns on Location, which will be Saturday,
36:19
Speaker 1: the fifth of April in Cheltenham. Those tickets are now
36:23
Speaker 1: on sale on the uk Comlumn website. That's one hundred
36:26
Speaker 1: and twenty five pounds for an early bird ticket and
36:29
Speaker 1: I'm going to say we think we have a really
36:32
Speaker 1: tremendous venue. We've taken note of what people have said
36:36
Speaker 1: from our previous on location and this particular location in
36:42
Speaker 1: Cheltenham will allow people to be together much more easily
36:47
Speaker 1: and to stay together not only of course during the
36:50
Speaker 1: day and the speaking events, but also when you are
36:54
Speaker 1: socializing at meal times and also into the evening. More
37:00
Speaker 1: on that in due course. Now, we'd also like to
37:03
Speaker 1: give people a reminder that it's the annual Conference for
37:07
Speaker 1: Public Child Protection Wales. That's the twenty second of February
37:12
Speaker 1: and that will be near Newport, South Wales. Have a
37:15
Speaker 1: look at the Public Child Protection website for details of that.
37:19
Speaker 1: But a lot of very good guest speakers, and this
37:23
Speaker 1: is for tomorrow. Apologies there for the date. It should
37:26
Speaker 1: be the eleventh, of course, but we have an interview
37:29
Speaker 1: going out Sandy Adams and the Roger Mee Cock. We've
37:34
Speaker 1: been talking about inheritance tax for farmers. This one will
37:38
Speaker 1: be moving on to have a look at the bigger agenda,
37:41
Speaker 1: including are we heading for a famine? So I'll encourage
37:44
Speaker 1: you to have a look at that. Now where does
37:48
Speaker 1: that take us? I think that brings us on to you,
37:50
Speaker 1: Diane and the subject of ED.
37:53
Speaker 2: I thanks Brian. With all of the recent executive orders
38:00
Speaker 2: and someone that Trump has been putting into place in
38:02
Speaker 2: this first couple of weeks in office, there are a
38:04
Speaker 2: lot of people who are hopeful that the issue of
38:07
Speaker 2: EDI or DIE or DEI or whatever you want to
38:10
Speaker 2: call it, basically diversity, equity inclusion will be going away
38:14
Speaker 2: because he's basically mandated now at least within the US
38:17
Speaker 2: federal government. But what I want to look at is
38:19
Speaker 2: what's going on. There's some progress. There's still a lot
38:22
Speaker 2: of pushback going on, and I really think that this
38:25
Speaker 2: is actually a very divisive and regressive thing to be doing,
38:29
Speaker 2: not a progressive thing, as the liberals would say, and
38:32
Speaker 2: also as some people say on social media, as we
38:35
Speaker 2: have on the slide here, the left can't mean, which
38:37
Speaker 2: is something that basically saying that the people on the
38:39
Speaker 2: left don't know how to make memes that are actually funny.
38:42
Speaker 2: In this case, these are some that I've seen just
38:44
Speaker 2: over the weekend from people that I know personally on
38:47
Speaker 2: some of my social media sites who are on the left,
38:49
Speaker 2: and just to give you an example of the kind
38:51
Speaker 2: of things that they're using to kind of tell people
38:55
Speaker 2: this is all entirely wrong. I'll read them out. Never
38:59
Speaker 2: in the history of ever where the people who were
39:01
Speaker 2: against diversity, equity, and inclusion the good guys. So apparently
39:05
Speaker 2: I'm one of the bad guys. I'll take it. That's fine.
39:08
Speaker 2: And not all Trump supporters are overtly racist or ablest
39:12
Speaker 2: or misogynists, but every one of them decided hating people
39:15
Speaker 2: with brown skin, disabilities or women wasn't a deal breaker
39:18
Speaker 2: owned that decision, Well, I would say that's not true,
39:21
Speaker 2: because I know people in all three of those categories
39:23
Speaker 2: who do support Trump, So something is going on there.
39:26
Speaker 2: We have the executive order that was signed last week
39:29
Speaker 2: that was called Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports that
39:32
Speaker 2: was signed on the fifth of February, and it says
39:35
Speaker 2: it is the policy of the United States to resign
39:37
Speaker 2: to all funds from educational programs that deprive women and
39:40
Speaker 2: girls of fair athletic opportunities, which results the endangerment, humiliation,
39:44
Speaker 2: and silencing of women and girls and deprives them of privacy.
39:48
Speaker 2: So you see Trump there surrounded by girls who are
39:51
Speaker 2: clearly pretty happy that this is taking place. So this,
39:54
Speaker 2: as well as some of the other executive orders that
39:56
Speaker 2: Trump has put into place, has given some people some hope.
40:00
Speaker 2: There was another one that ordered basically the DEI terminology
40:04
Speaker 2: to be removed from the federal workforce, federal contracting and spending.
40:08
Speaker 2: So some people have lost their jobs. Large departments have
40:11
Speaker 2: been basically taken away out of the government. There's a
40:15
Speaker 2: lot of unemployed people who were making a lot of
40:17
Speaker 2: money off of the DEI scam. One of the things
40:20
Speaker 2: that's in the show notes you can read more detail,
40:22
Speaker 2: is that something that's happened to journal articles that are
40:26
Speaker 2: in pressed or funding applications that were in progress. If
40:30
Speaker 2: they use words such as gender, transgender, pregnant person, pregnant people, LGBT,
40:36
Speaker 2: non binary, assigned male at birth, assigned female at birth,
40:39
Speaker 2: et cetera, are now just being They have to go
40:42
Speaker 2: back to them and they have to have those those
40:44
Speaker 2: bits of terminologies removed. And so you can imagine the
40:47
Speaker 2: people that support this are really in meltdownload here in
40:52
Speaker 2: the UK. Whether or not this is the result of
40:54
Speaker 2: what Trump has been doing or not, I don't know.
40:56
Speaker 2: But all of the major departments in Whitehall have now
40:59
Speaker 2: done the Stonewall diversity schemes, and Stonewall calls this the
41:04
Speaker 2: gold standard for LGBTP plus inclusion, which they claim on
41:08
Speaker 2: their website is meant to help the success of any
41:11
Speaker 2: company that adopts the schemes. But we're seeing more and
41:14
Speaker 2: more that the these are starting to go away. And
41:17
Speaker 2: as this includes the Home Office, it includes the Treasury,
41:20
Speaker 2: so again a lot of the major departments in Whitehall,
41:23
Speaker 2: and what they're finding is that there was a lot
41:24
Speaker 2: of backlash going on because they were prioritizing gender identity
41:28
Speaker 2: over the reality of biological sets and allegedly favoring the
41:31
Speaker 2: trans rights at the expense of women's rights, and I
41:34
Speaker 2: guess we could say men's rights as well. I want
41:37
Speaker 2: to focus here on a tribunal that's going on currently
41:41
Speaker 2: up here in Scotland, in Fife, there's a tribunal Dundee
41:44
Speaker 2: for this woman, Sandy Peggy, who is a nurse in
41:49
Speaker 2: the NHS Fife area. She has been suspended from her
41:52
Speaker 2: job for not wanting a so called trans woman biological
41:56
Speaker 2: man in the women's changing room at work and she
41:59
Speaker 2: felt obviously uncomfortable for her that there was a physical man,
42:04
Speaker 2: biological man changing clothes in front of her. This is
42:07
Speaker 2: a doctor that now wants to be referred to as
42:10
Speaker 2: doctor Beth Upton is the name that this doctor is
42:13
Speaker 2: going by, who was in the women's changing room, and
42:16
Speaker 2: there were a couple of things going on that basically
42:19
Speaker 2: doctor Upton felt like misgendering was offensive and so she's
42:25
Speaker 2: been suspended for this accusation. One of the most ridiculous
42:29
Speaker 2: things that happened leading up to the start of the
42:30
Speaker 2: tribunal was that she had to get special permission to
42:34
Speaker 2: refer to doctor Upton as a he him as a man,
42:37
Speaker 2: because that is in fact what he is, and that's
42:39
Speaker 2: what she believes doctor Upton is, but she had to
42:42
Speaker 2: get special permission to be able to do that. So
42:46
Speaker 2: there's been accusations on both sides about being harassment, about
42:50
Speaker 2: being disrespectful, about miss gendering and so on. So we'll
42:53
Speaker 2: continue to watch that because they believe the tribunal is
42:56
Speaker 2: still ongoing. This next one is something that was sent
43:00
Speaker 2: to me by a UK column member and friend. This
43:04
Speaker 2: actually started in twenty twenty two, but it's worth it.
43:07
Speaker 2: It's just come out recently in the mainstream media. The
43:10
Speaker 2: Science Museum has a two wor called Seeing Things Queerly.
43:13
Speaker 2: Legos are heteronormative, and I just want to read this
43:16
Speaker 2: quote out to show you what it's saying about legos,
43:19
Speaker 2: which all children play with. Like other connectors and fasteners,
43:23
Speaker 2: lego bricks are often described in a gendered way. The
43:26
Speaker 2: top of the brick with sticking out pins is male,
43:29
Speaker 2: the bottom of the brick with holes to receive the pins,
43:32
Speaker 2: is female, and the process of the two sides being
43:35
Speaker 2: put together is called mating. This is an example of
43:38
Speaker 2: applying heteronormative language to topics unrelated to gender, sex and reproduction. Now,
43:44
Speaker 2: the friend who said this to me made the point
43:46
Speaker 2: of you know, if a person is non binary, then
43:48
Speaker 2: perhaps that might be like the game Djenga, whether there
43:50
Speaker 2: are no pins or no holes or nothing, but nothing
43:53
Speaker 2: works anyway and you struggle to keep it all together.
43:56
Speaker 2: So we're not really sure how that works out. Yasmin
43:59
Speaker 2: bin Wahs person I would like to go on to
44:02
Speaker 2: who has made a name for herself. I think it's
44:05
Speaker 2: to her as a lingerie model, as an asexual lingerie model,
44:09
Speaker 2: so that is someone who doesn't experience sexual attraction or
44:13
Speaker 2: very little. Is now also a visiting research fellow at
44:16
Speaker 2: King's College, London in the area called the Policy Institute.
44:20
Speaker 2: She doesn't seem to have into PhD. She doesn't have
44:22
Speaker 2: a publication record. I don't know what she's done other
44:25
Speaker 2: than be an asexual lingerie model, but anyway, she now
44:28
Speaker 2: has an appointment at King's College, London and she has
44:31
Speaker 2: been part of this report that came out earlier this
44:34
Speaker 2: month on a sexuality across the UK. They surveyed four
44:38
Speaker 2: hundred people I believe who was about their public attitudes
44:41
Speaker 2: towards people who experienced little to know sexual attraction, making
44:44
Speaker 2: the point that asexuality is not protected as a sexual orientation,
44:48
Speaker 2: and so they are worried about being prosecuted under eight
44:51
Speaker 2: Prime laws, while also leaving the community comunity vulnerable to
44:55
Speaker 2: continued medicalization and conversion therapy outside of the human sexual spectrum.
45:02
Speaker 2: We now have an Australian high school teacher who identifies
45:06
Speaker 2: as Miss Perr. Miss Perr is a teacher there, she
45:10
Speaker 2: is with her his share on whatever it is. A
45:14
Speaker 2: photograph up there Marsden State High School in Queensland, Australia,
45:19
Speaker 2: where she teaches, and students say that Miss Perr has
45:22
Speaker 2: been hissing at students and licking their hands. So it's
45:27
Speaker 2: not just the students who are now identifying as cats,
45:29
Speaker 2: is now also the teachers. So there's these issues. I
45:32
Speaker 2: want to go and just play a short crip from
45:34
Speaker 2: the Representative Jasmine Crockett, who is a Democrat from Texas
45:39
Speaker 2: serving in Congress currently, and I want you to hear
45:41
Speaker 2: what she had to say about race on CNN recently.
45:46
Speaker 2: That's what's happening right now. I am tired of the
45:48
Speaker 2: white tears.
45:49
Speaker 8: Listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned when
45:52
Speaker 8: I walk into Congress every single day. You know why
45:55
Speaker 8: I don't feel away, and why you can't make me
45:57
Speaker 8: doubt who I am is because I know that I
46:00
Speaker 8: had to work ten times as hard as they did
46:02
Speaker 8: just to get into the seat. When you look and
46:04
Speaker 8: you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Green or me to
46:07
Speaker 8: Lauren Bobert, there is no comparison. And that is the
46:10
Speaker 8: life that we have always lived. So the only people
46:13
Speaker 8: that are crying are the mediocre white boys that have
46:15
Speaker 8: been beaten out by people that historically have had to
46:19
Speaker 8: work so much harder. This is why they don't want
46:22
Speaker 8: us to have education.
46:27
Speaker 2: So of course Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Barbara are
46:29
Speaker 2: both white women serving along with her, and you can
46:33
Speaker 2: hear that the hate, the anger that's going on in there.
46:36
Speaker 2: Just a couple of stories about universities and race that
46:38
Speaker 2: kind of puts out in perspective is that the universities
46:41
Speaker 2: in the UK are now being required to champion diversity
46:46
Speaker 2: basically showing how many students they have that are not white,
46:50
Speaker 2: to kind of show how much funding is coming in
46:53
Speaker 2: for those students that are not white, so black, Asian,
46:56
Speaker 2: mixed waytes and so that has to be a higher
46:59
Speaker 2: percentage now otherwise the universities will start to lose their
47:02
Speaker 2: funding from the government and that is all again part
47:05
Speaker 2: of edia initiatives. And recently Oxford and Cambridge are saying
47:08
Speaker 2: that they're no longer going to have traditional exams if
47:11
Speaker 2: they can possibly help it, because that will improve the
47:13
Speaker 2: results of minorities. They want to use inclusive assessments such
47:17
Speaker 2: as open book exams or take home papers instead of
47:20
Speaker 2: the traditional in person exams, which to me sounds a
47:22
Speaker 2: bit racist personally. And with that, I want to close
47:25
Speaker 2: with a video clip from Martin Luther King in nineteen
47:28
Speaker 2: sixty three, and I want to point out that this
47:30
Speaker 2: leader of the Civil Rights Initiative in the United States
47:34
Speaker 2: wanted equality and not equity, and I believe that he
47:36
Speaker 2: would probably be seen as racist today. Let's have a
47:39
Speaker 2: reminder of what he said.
47:42
Speaker 7: I have a dream, but one day this nation will
47:49
Speaker 7: rise up, live out the true meaning of its creed.
47:55
Speaker 7: Read hold these jooths to be self evident that all
47:59
Speaker 7: men are. I have a dream that one day, on
48:14
Speaker 7: the red view of john sons of farmer slaves and
48:19
Speaker 7: the sons of farmer slave on them will be able
48:24
Speaker 7: to sit down together at the table of brotherhood. I
48:27
Speaker 7: have a dream because one day, even the state of Mississippi,
48:34
Speaker 7: state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the
48:42
Speaker 7: heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of
48:47
Speaker 7: freedom and justice. I have a dream, my poor little
48:54
Speaker 7: children will one day live in a nation where they
48:59
Speaker 7: will not be by the color of our skin, but
49:02
Speaker 7: by the content of our character.
49:04
Speaker 6: I haven't dream.
49:12
Speaker 2: So it's interesting to me, Brian that and the process
49:15
Speaker 2: of what is seemed to be going forward, we're actually
49:17
Speaker 2: going backward away from what he wanted. He wanted us
49:19
Speaker 2: all to be sitting at the table and be judged
49:21
Speaker 2: by our character and what we bring to the world,
49:23
Speaker 2: and that by our skin color. EDII does the exact
49:26
Speaker 2: opposite to me, And that's just my opinion.
49:30
Speaker 1: Absolutely agree, Diane. It should be so simple. We should
49:33
Speaker 1: just be people getting on with our lives, enjoying our families,
49:37
Speaker 1: enjoying our communities. But it's all made ever more complex.
49:40
Speaker 1: And of course the media and the global media are
49:44
Speaker 1: fully behind the divisive policies which are now unfolding and
49:49
Speaker 1: being spread amongst us. So Ben, let's bring you back.
49:53
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the question, can we trust the globalist
49:57
Speaker 1: mainstream media?
50:01
Speaker 5: I think you know the answer to that one, Brian, No,
50:03
Speaker 5: of course we can't trust them.
50:05
Speaker 4: And we're going to talk about.
50:07
Speaker 5: One of the mechanisms through which global governance is projecting power.
50:11
Speaker 5: It's seizing control of local media ecosystems across what it
50:15
Speaker 5: likes to call the Global South, and relates to this organization,
50:20
Speaker 5: the International Fund of Public Interest Media, which states that
50:26
Speaker 5: its vision is that people worldwide live in healthy information
50:31
Speaker 5: ecosystems with access to media that upholds the public interest.
50:36
Speaker 5: Now what does public interest media actually mean? Let's read
50:40
Speaker 5: their definition. Yeah, so it provides fact based information in
50:44
Speaker 5: a trustworthy manner. It demonstrably embraces the pursuit of truth,
50:49
Speaker 5: for example, through sourcing practices and proper representation of the
50:53
Speaker 5: audiences it hopes to serve.
50:55
Speaker 4: Is editorially independent.
50:58
Speaker 5: Which is kind of hilarious when you we'll get into
51:01
Speaker 5: the report and you find out who's behind this and
51:04
Speaker 5: is transparent about the processes, funding, and policies used to
51:08
Speaker 5: produce it. Right, So that all sounds great, doesn't it.
51:11
Speaker 5: And apparently they're into independent media. But let's have a
51:14
Speaker 5: little look at who funds the fund. Oh, it's these people,
51:20
Speaker 5: so Western governments, Estonia, New Zealand, France.
51:25
Speaker 4: We've got China in the mix.
51:26
Speaker 5: They're funding this USAID are there, although probably not there
51:30
Speaker 5: anymore if anything from the past couple of weeks.
51:36
Speaker 4: Tells us anything.
51:37
Speaker 5: But you've still got the National Endowment for Democracy, Google, Microsoft,
51:41
Speaker 5: big tech titans.
51:42
Speaker 4: Are in the mix.
51:44
Speaker 5: And then of course the international foundations, the Rockefeller Foundation
51:48
Speaker 5: and importantly the Ford Foundation, who were really the keystone
51:53
Speaker 5: founder of if PIM. And we're going to hear now
51:57
Speaker 5: from Hillary Pennington, the VP of Global Programs at the
52:02
Speaker 5: Ford Foundation, about why they think that this program is
52:05
Speaker 5: so important.
52:07
Speaker 9: There is a shared purpose between IPIM and the goals
52:10
Speaker 9: that the Ford Foundation promotes and invests in. We share
52:14
Speaker 9: with all of you in this room a vision of
52:18
Speaker 9: robust independent journalism, well funded and healthy media ecosystems across
52:24
Speaker 9: the world. These play a necessary critical role in fostering
52:29
Speaker 9: strong civic engagement, a priority of the Foundation. It is
52:34
Speaker 9: essential that individuals and societies are empowered with accurate information
52:40
Speaker 9: to engage in and make decisions about issues that affect them,
52:44
Speaker 9: and at the same time nurturing robust independent journalism cuts
52:49
Speaker 9: across the entire work of the Ford Foundation, all of
52:52
Speaker 9: our other priorities as well, which is what journalism does.
52:56
Speaker 9: It informs the public about matters of global governance, equitable
53:00
Speaker 9: use of resources, gender response, climate response, gender racial and
53:06
Speaker 9: ethnic justice, freedom of expression, and more accurate, inclusive and
53:11
Speaker 9: editorially sound. Journalism furthers all these goals.
53:18
Speaker 4: I think someone is to explain to her what independent
53:21
Speaker 4: means if you've got all of these funds and international
53:25
Speaker 4: corporations and Western governments putting money into media ecosystems in
53:30
Speaker 4: developing nations global South nations as they like to call it,
53:34
Speaker 4: and they're not independent, right, And there's very clearly an
53:38
Speaker 4: agenda here, because what she's talking about is it global governance,
53:42
Speaker 4: equitable use of resources, the climate response, gender racial and
53:47
Speaker 4: ethnic justice, freedom of expression. I can guarantee you that
53:52
Speaker 4: woman has no interest in actual freedom of expression. Where
53:55
Speaker 4: are they operating all over the world. Actually, as I said, it's.
53:59
Speaker 5: Mainly focused on what they call the Global South, so
54:01
Speaker 5: Latin Africa, Ukraine and Georgia. You know, So Georgia, there's
54:07
Speaker 5: a huge democratic issue going on there at the moment.
54:10
Speaker 5: There's an enormous amount of pushback happening on the ground
54:13
Speaker 5: against the democratically elected new government, and maybe these people
54:19
Speaker 5: are behind it.
54:19
Speaker 4: I don't know.
54:20
Speaker 5: They're also in Neport or in Indonesia, all around the world,
54:24
Speaker 5: and it's a huge fund. It was set up as
54:26
Speaker 5: I said, I think I said in twenty twenty two.
54:28
Speaker 5: They've already raised a lot of money and distributed a
54:30
Speaker 5: lot of money. They've got big plans to do even more.
54:32
Speaker 2: So.
54:33
Speaker 5: This is from their strategy for twenty twenty six to
54:35
Speaker 5: twenty eight. They want to raise one hundred and fifty
54:37
Speaker 5: million dollars. They want to give that to three hundred
54:40
Speaker 5: media outlets, reached two hundred and eighty million people in
54:45
Speaker 5: fifty countries, and in that period they'll be covering and
54:49
Speaker 5: that really means manipulating and controlling the outcomes of thirty
54:53
Speaker 5: democratic elections.
54:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's really what this is about.
54:57
Speaker 5: The UNS behind it, and Tony Goetz sect Gen from
55:01
Speaker 5: the UN says here I urge member States, downers and
55:05
Speaker 5: other stakeholders to support this vice when you endeavor. So
55:08
Speaker 5: you've got the blessing from the very top of the
55:10
Speaker 5: international political establishment. Who's on the board as ever some
55:16
Speaker 5: impressive people. I'm going to draw your attention first of
55:19
Speaker 5: all to this fella here on the right hand side.
55:21
Speaker 4: That's Pascal Lavvy. He is the.
55:24
Speaker 5: Former Director General of the World Trade Organization. He's currently
55:27
Speaker 5: the president of the Parish Peace Forum, which is where
55:31
Speaker 5: this organization was founded, right so actually and so that
55:34
Speaker 5: was three years ago, and the Paris Peace Forum is
55:36
Speaker 5: taking place today and tomorrow's it's basically the third anniversary
55:40
Speaker 5: of IF him and I'm going to talk about Paris
55:43
Speaker 5: Peace Forum next week because they're a fascinating organization at
55:46
Speaker 5: the center of a lot of this stuff. But then
55:48
Speaker 5: in exec positions here you've got Maria Ressa, who I'd
55:53
Speaker 5: never heard of before.
55:54
Speaker 4: You can see her on the left.
55:55
Speaker 5: She was formerly a top executive at CNN, so she
56:00
Speaker 5: set up CNN in the Philippines and was there for
56:03
Speaker 5: nearly twenty years. And her CoA chair is Mark Thompson,
56:07
Speaker 5: who we talk about all the time, is the former
56:10
Speaker 5: Director General of the BBC, currently the Global CEO at CNN.
56:14
Speaker 5: When he was at the BBC, he oversaw the Jimmy
56:16
Speaker 5: Savill cover up. And he's also an investor in Mill Media,
56:19
Speaker 5: who are basically doing a similar thing to what IF
56:22
Speaker 5: him are doing here in the UK. Mill Media is
56:24
Speaker 5: basically a paragraph, frankly to take control of local media ecosystems.
56:30
Speaker 5: And it's personally backed by Mark Thompson, right, So he's
56:33
Speaker 5: using what he's learned here in his work with him.
56:36
Speaker 5: And actually, let's have a little a bit of something
56:41
Speaker 5: here from Mark Thompson about the background to this whole program.
56:45
Speaker 10: Around the world, we're living through a full scale crisis
56:49
Speaker 10: in independent media. Repressive governments are certainly often a factor,
56:56
Speaker 10: but actually the biggest single cause is economic. Over the
56:59
Speaker 10: past twenty years, journalists have lived through a cataclysmic failure
57:04
Speaker 10: in our traditional business models, with advertising fleeing to big
57:08
Speaker 10: tech and readers to social media and a kind of
57:12
Speaker 10: digital wild West of truth, rumors and outright lies. Global
57:17
Speaker 10: newspaper revenue went down by two thirds from twenty ten
57:21
Speaker 10: to twenty twenty, and has gone down by a further
57:24
Speaker 10: thirty nine percent in the five years since the hard
57:28
Speaker 10: years during and after COVID. In Brazil, for instance, at
57:32
Speaker 10: least nine hundred and forty two nearly one thousand news
57:35
Speaker 10: organizations have closed down since twenty twenty. In Bangladesh, two
57:41
Speaker 10: hundred and fifty four newspapers shut down during the COVID pandemic,
57:45
Speaker 10: leaving only eighty six operating when a few years ago
57:50
Speaker 10: the UN Secretary General talked about a media extinction event.
57:55
Speaker 10: Those kinds of numbers, the scale of what's happening not
57:58
Speaker 10: always clear to people in the West. Is what he
58:00
Speaker 10: was talking about.
58:04
Speaker 5: A media extinction event. And that's an astonishing term. And
58:10
Speaker 5: actually I think it's borne out by the facts. And
58:12
Speaker 5: actually I'm going to introduce you to a new acronym.
58:14
Speaker 5: This one is the side effect is the intention?
58:18
Speaker 4: Yeah? CT? Is that going to click on? There we
58:22
Speaker 4: go CT.
58:23
Speaker 5: That's from Michael Driver. Thank you for that, Michael. The
58:26
Speaker 5: side effects is the intention. So big tech has destroyed
58:29
Speaker 5: the media ecosystem. COVID has destroyed the media ecosystem. So
58:33
Speaker 5: UN who cooked up COVID and big tech plower load
58:37
Speaker 5: of money into this fund so they can go and
58:38
Speaker 5: take over local media across.
58:40
Speaker 4: All of these countries.
58:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, all this stuff is connected, right, So listen, we've
58:46
Speaker 5: heard from Mark Thompson. Let's hear now from Maria Tessa
58:49
Speaker 5: or at least we're going to have a little look
58:51
Speaker 5: at some of the things that she's spoken about. So,
58:53
Speaker 5: as we said, they're co chairs, what does Maria Tessa
58:57
Speaker 5: Ressa sorry have to say about things? So she says
59:00
Speaker 5: without facts, you can't have truth. Without truth, you can't
59:04
Speaker 5: have trust. Without trust, we have no shared reality, no democracy,
59:08
Speaker 5: and it becomes impossible to deal with our world's existential problems.
59:13
Speaker 5: I agree with most of that. Without facts, she can't
59:15
Speaker 5: have truth. I think that's a really valid thing to say.
59:17
Speaker 5: Let's have a little look at a fact here from
59:19
Speaker 5: Maria Ressa. A transgender woman can breastfeed just from her
59:24
Speaker 5: Twitter profile, so she's really interested in facts and truth.
59:28
Speaker 5: That's what she's posting, the kind of truth that gets
59:31
Speaker 5: you standing ovations in the Satanic Throne room at the Vatican.
59:35
Speaker 4: And actually here there she is.
59:37
Speaker 5: You can see her on stage in a little red outfit,
59:39
Speaker 5: just standing up. That's her getting a standing ovation in
59:42
Speaker 5: that weird Satanic throne room at the Vatican. What other
59:46
Speaker 5: rooms has she been hanging out in? Well, let's have
59:48
Speaker 5: a little look here. This is from Lisa Witter that
59:51
Speaker 5: we talk about a lot and haven't really focused on
59:54
Speaker 5: much over the past few weeks. We'dn't have to drag
59:56
Speaker 5: Lisa back out over the next next month or so.
59:59
Speaker 5: She's been up to a not least hanging around with
1:00:01
Speaker 5: all of these ladies. You can see Lisa were to
1:00:04
Speaker 5: their chief executive the a Political Foundation, young Global leader
1:00:07
Speaker 5: of the World Economic Forum, Ala Thomas that formerly chief
1:00:11
Speaker 5: executive b Team, now President of Iceland, Mary Robinson, former
1:00:16
Speaker 5: President of Ireland, and also Maria Ressa, who is them
1:00:22
Speaker 5: co chair. And actually you can see just about those
1:00:26
Speaker 5: little badges that they're all wearing, the green and the
1:00:28
Speaker 5: yellow badges. That makes them dandy Lyons. This is another
1:00:32
Speaker 5: network which I'm going to talk about next week. They're
1:00:35
Speaker 5: all dandy Lyons and that's what's driving a lot of
1:00:38
Speaker 5: this climate activity at the moment. And just finally, in
1:00:41
Speaker 5: a completely unrelated slide, I'm just going to show you this,
1:00:45
Speaker 5: which is the Horror of Babylon and upon her forehead
1:00:48
Speaker 5: was the name written Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother
1:00:51
Speaker 5: of Parlot's and Abominations of the Earth.
1:00:55
Speaker 4: Over to you, Brian.
1:00:57
Speaker 1: That's a key point I think for us two end,
1:01:00
Speaker 1: because we've certainly given the audience something to think about,
1:01:02
Speaker 1: but so much to discuss in your piece there on
1:01:06
Speaker 1: the media. Because when I heard them saying the job
1:01:09
Speaker 1: of the media was toform the global public about global government,
1:01:16
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot being hidden from these people.
1:01:19
Speaker 1: Is there, but Mark Thompson's little speech there on video,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: I regard it as purely good news, because of course
1:01:27
Speaker 1: he was talking about the demise of the mainstream media,
1:01:32
Speaker 1: which has basically prostituted itself to these global government organizations
1:01:38
Speaker 1: who want to control us, not let us lead happy
1:01:42
Speaker 1: and fulfilling lives. Will end there. So I'm going to
1:01:45
Speaker 1: say thank you very much to our guests and to
1:01:50
Speaker 1: you Ben and Diane. I'm hoping that Professor Enos will
1:01:55
Speaker 1: be able to join us for extra time. We'll see
1:01:57
Speaker 1: whether that will happen. But for them those of you
1:02:00
Speaker 1: that the members of the UK Column do stay on,
1:02:03
Speaker 1: will be live for UK Column Extra in a few moments.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: For everybody else, thank you for joining us. Remember the
1:02:11
Speaker 1: interview going out at one o'clock tomorrow, but we'll be
1:02:15
Speaker 1: back for news on Wednesday at one o'clock. Please join
1:02:19
Speaker 1: us then bye bye,