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Going out to eat with Jess · SAY GRACE | Weight Loss + Health for Overwhelmed Women- Stress, Busy, Consistency, Realistic, Motivation, Starting Over, No Restrictions

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Music.
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Hey y'all. Okay, so over the next few weeks, we're playing back some of our
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most listened to episodes as I take some time to prepare for all the amazing
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things we're bringing to you in 2025.
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Today's episode is actually a rerun of one of our very first episodes,
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but it is one of the most listened to episodes.
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And that is one that I did with my husband, Jess, where we talk about how we
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handle eating out as a family.
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And so I think around the holiday season, we tend to maybe find ourselves eating
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out or just eating in situations that are not as familiar more often.
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So I think this episode is going to be a great reminder for you as we are in that holiday season.
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Hey, y'all, welcome back to Say Grace podcast.
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So eating out can feel very overwhelming when you're trying to lose weight.
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So today I have invited my husband, Jess, back on with me to talk about how
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we face eating out at restaurants.
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Dive in with us to learn our strategies for dining out.
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All right, y'all. Jess is here with me. I don't know how much Jess loves to
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be on the podcast. Can you say hello, Jess?
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They don't even know you're here at this point. It's my favorite place to
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be it's not it is not but okay i
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have not told him this because
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he gets the big head real good interesting
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y'all his episode of how we do dinner is almost double the listens of the other
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episodes now i will say the one with the pfn team is like i mean because how
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we do dinner was one of our first episodes.
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So people have had a lot more time to like listen to it, but the one with the
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PFN team is catching up quick.
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The reason. Right. But OK, it doesn't matter because either way,
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like I do. I enjoy having people on sometimes.
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Y'all know I'm really good at just like getting on here and hollering.
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But sometimes it's really nice to like have people to talk to.
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And so whether you like it or not, baby, you're here and this probably won't be the last time.
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I hope not. Oh, yeah. Right. Actually, it's my favorite thing to do.
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If y'all could just see his little sarcastic face.
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OK, but for real, we want to talk about how we eat out, okay, how we go out to dinner.
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And so for us, it looks different, right?
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And I would say that it looks different for almost any family with like children,
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whereas eating or no, no, I would say any family with or without children,
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because eating out and going out to eat is very different than a date night.
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And so and so like, you know, you see all these tips out in the world and,
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you know, nutrition, you know,
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quote experts that'll tell you how to dine out and do it healthfully.
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And while some of that is great advice and things to be, you know.
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Made aware of, I think that we view date night eating a lot different than a
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regular night of eating out.
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And so I feel like a lot of our clients that come in, especially at first, They're like,
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you know, my gosh, we got a babysitter for the first time in months,
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you know, and then I started this program and like, how am I supposed to go
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on a date with my husband and like only eat the grilled fish?
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And I'm like, girl, don't unless like you want the grilled fish,
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you know, and so but it's common to assume that following these out to eat guidelines
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should be followed across the board.
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And so I thought it would be nice for Jess and I to kind of talk about how just
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we approach us individually as Constance, the dietitian.
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Jess, the donut eater, the not dietitian, the donut eater and the miles upon miles runner.
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You know what I mean? Like it's very different who we are and then how we approach
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eating out is different as well.
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And so I want to kind of do it in two separate parts.
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I want to talk about how we eat out on a normal day, like on a normal weekend
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with our kids or even a weeknight, because I know a lot of you guys are having
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to grab food on the weeknights or on the weekends just with your family.
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And then after that, we'll kind of talk about how we really approach a date
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night that's a little more special to us, okay?
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Because again, date night feels very different than Sarah Mason had gymnastics.
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So Jess, will you run through the drive-through on the way home?
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And I'm just still, it's Tuesday and I'm really trying to stay on point.
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And, you know, to separate from like, oh, it's a Friday and we got a babysitter for the first time.
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And like, here's some special quality time for us to have, right? Sure.
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I think the first biggest difference is that I don't cut up cucumbers to take
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to the Mexican restaurant on our date nights. We don't ever do that.
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And we don't get a Mexican on date nights.
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I mean, you get to use those as chips, right? The cucumber slices.
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Oh, do you feel sorry for the sarcasm I live with?
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For the record, I never cut up cucumbers. I'm sure you didn't.
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It's a thing that I've seen that apparently people make fun of.
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And I'd like to do that here as well. Very. Thank you. thing he's
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been dying to make fun of of things weight loss
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things on social y'all you just think that
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i am a type of way about the shot
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this man is like can i please comment on
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this and i'm like sure babe sure like the first comment
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i made in years right social media site
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but yeah right i feel the need to sometimes he's like sees people and he's like
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she's got the ozempic face i'm like you don't even know if she's on ozempic
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like didn't know that was a thing until this week now i can spot it anywhere
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i go he's like labeling everybody and i'm like maybe she's just old.
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Possibly probably not though okay anyway so yeah we approach it a little bit
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different and i encouraged him before we got on here to like be honest like
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you know don't don't say what you think you need to say as the dietitian husband
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because y'all know i talk about him he is Y'all,
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our first probably five years of marriage, and he was dead serious. And you might still be.
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I don't know. But he was serious about opening a donut shop.
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And I was like, okay, I am trying to build a business to help people with weight loss.
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You cannot open up a donut shop with my name attached.
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But I really don't even think that mattered to you, right?
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It did not matter to him. What mattered was when I started telling him,
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you're going to have to wake up at like 3 a.m.
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To go work your donut shop. Correct. Yeah. And then he was done.
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Yeah. At that point in my life anyway. Now I'm reconsidering.
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Waking up at 3 a.m. and going to make donuts? Yeah. I mean, it could be done.
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I just would have to learn how to make a donut first. Right.
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I just enjoy grading and judging other donuts. Right. I think is the problem.
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Yeah. Anytime we go out of town, we're going to the donut shop.
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Anyway, okay, so let's talk about, first of all, let's talk about kind of during
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the week or on the weekends with our kids.
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What are we typically eating?
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As far as going out to eat, right? Or picking up, yeah, yeah.
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But like things that I'm not cooking, yes, for sure.
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Yeah, so Chick-fil-A, Nukes, probably the two that we frequent the most. Right.
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Pizza. Lost pizza, yeah. Lost pizza, pretty good amount.
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Every now and then we'll throw in like a Subway. Like if somebody's craving a sandwich.
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Like our kids are so predictable.
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Sarah Mason's birthday was last weekend. And we were like, Sarah Mason,
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we can go anywhere you want to eat after church for your birthday.
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Literally any restaurant. Anywhere.
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I was like throwing out sushi, you know, America, like anywhere.
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She was like, I would like to go to Nukes. And I was like, I'm literally.
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Anywhere but there. Like I birthed you on this day eight years ago.
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I'm not going to Nook's, you know.
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And so then she was like, okay, McAllister's then. I mean, there is something
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about like delis that they just like.
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I think it's the bag of chips that comes with the meal.
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I think that's the answer. Yeah. Well, what, because it's Doritos?
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Yeah, that's right. I just, the Doritos, I don't really buy them.
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And I'll buy like baked chips for their lunchbox. And so I know that,
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yeah, Sarah makes, or no, but she usually gets pizza at Nook's.
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She tries or she's now trying to split an excuse.
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That's right. She loves an excuse sandwich. But anyway, so we ended up going.
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That was a rare occasion. I would say maybe once every two months we'll go to
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like Table 100 if we're going to brunch with friends after church.
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Or we'll go to Amerigo every now and then. And those of you who are not local,
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Table 100 is just like a local nicer restaurant.
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They've got a great like on Sundays they have a Mickey shaped waffle bar which
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is really fun for the kids and it's only three dollars and they can go and put
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as much topping on it as they want I
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mean I'm talking like chocolate chips marshmallows all the things and then.
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They also have like a Bloody Mary bar that I've actually never gotten but it looks fabulous,
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and then Amerigo is a local Italian
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place you know you'll have like pizza and I always get a
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good salad if we're going to go for lunch but i've heard they
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have like the best steak have you heard that i've heard they have
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good steak i've never tried it because it's mostly an italian
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you know we don't go there thinking like let's eat a
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steak we go there thinking like i want some pasta and bread and wine yeah wine
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yeah so okay but so yeah our kids are pretty basic when it comes to where they
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want to eat out and so because of that we do and i'm sure you have like whoever's
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listening You have probably some staples in your out-to-eat rotation.
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And so we typically, when we go out to eat in situations like that,
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like after church or quickly after a, you know, it's a pickup type night,
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we trend towards the same things.
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And so these nights I don't really look at as special. I guess I would say that's
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how I would define it, right? like we're not Jess and I are not trying to like blow it.
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At nukes for the like fifth time in
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the month you know what i mean like we're not trying to go to nukes and and
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live our best food life there although the cake looks
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great some we did get the cake on my birthday and
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it was garbage oh my god i was so upset because they're quite the cake is usually
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so good and i guess just the piece that i got was old not good yeah but anyway
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so we will we will attempt to do decent okay so at nukes jess was like before
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we before we press play on this thing.
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He said, I mean, can I tell these people that you just get a salad?
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And I'm like, yeah, because I do.
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Like I do. I get a salad a lot, right? But I don't always get a salad.
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Like at Table 100 the other day, I really wanted French fries.
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And so I got a turkey, like a turkey sandwich to go with the French fries.
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I got the like dressing or whatever they put on the sandwich on the side.
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And I'm glad I did because I didn't like it. And so then I just used some ranch.
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And yeah, it was probably a little more calories than I would typically do on a Sunday afternoon.
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But it was not me going to like Amerigo and getting a bowl of pasta and having
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a glass of wine and ordering the tiramisu or whatever.
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And so we're just we try to tread a little lightly there.
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And so that's one thing I do want to mention here is that when I order out and
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it used to bother Jess, like, I don't know, it may still, I'm not sure.
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Y'all know if you've been married for long enough, you just shut your mouth.
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And so he, it used to bother him, but I will kind of manipulate the menu to work in my favor.
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You know, so if it's so like, for instance, this turkey sandwich,
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it had a garlic aioli on the top of it.
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And so I was like, um, can I get that on the side? And so a lot of times though,
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I'll be like, and can you replace this with this?
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And can you, you know, take off half the cheese? And, you know,
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I manipulate the menu to reflect kind of how I feel about the menu item,
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because I know if they come back with a sandwich that's smothered in aioli.
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Number one, I'm not going to want to eat it. It's going to make me kind of gag a little bit.
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And number two, I'm going to feel like after I finished it, that it wasn't worth it.
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Like for the calories that I consume from that aioli, like that wasn't worth,
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you know, my day's worth of calories. And so we talk about that a lot in the program.
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Like, if it's not worth it, don't have it.
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Don't force something down just because you've got, you know,
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you need to eat or because your grandma made it or whatever.
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Make sure that it's worth it. And so I really stand by that from a menu perspective
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at a restaurant. If it doesn't look how I want it to look on the menu,
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I fix it to how I want it to look.
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All those who are listening who may work in food service, I apologize for my wife's behavior.
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I know it's tough. They probably already turned it off by now.
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They probably already turned it off. They went, this is broad. This broad.
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Okay. In my defense. It's usually not that bad.
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You're quite, you, and when we go out to eat, you usually have a lot of questions
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before you order. You don't have a lot of amendments to the menu.
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You do, you do ask if things can be replaced, but like on the side is about
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the most common thing you do. Can I get this on the side?
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Not like, can I rework the sandwich so it doesn't have as much fat or calories or whatever.
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And. So it's not that difficult. What I was going to say is you do the same thing.
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House it. It's in a different manner. But you're like, can I get this pizza?
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But can you take off the green onions, the tomatoes, the whatever?
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And then any kind of sandwich you take off, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, mustard.
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Like you just basically want it naked. That's correct. Okay. So you do the same.
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Yeah. If you do work in food service and you don't offer like a meat lover pizza,
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expect me to order the closest thing to it and remove the vegetables.
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So basically, if you see the name Shelby on the wait list, just like try not
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to get our table. Try to get another table. Yeah.
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So anyway, so that is kind of how I approach like quick, not quick,
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but like not as important out to eat.
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If I do get a salad, I usually try to get like a grilled topping.
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That's another thing I do. I'm like, can I get this shrimp salad,
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but can the shrimp be grilled? And sometimes the answer is no,
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and then I'm not a happy girl.
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But I'll get grilled chicken or grilled shrimp, and then I'll get the dressing on the side.
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And then usually with the salad, you can just kind of pick around the rest if you don't want it.
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What else, Jess? What did I miss about that quick part? I don't know.
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The thing that I always think about, and I mean –,
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I think y'all heard enough about me to know this is like, I think a lot of things financially.
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And yes, why did I not put this on? I'm always thinking about like,
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hey, why are we driving through this place?
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Or why are we picking up from there when we could go home and eat those things
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or whatever? So our kids, and I'm sure y'all's probably the same,
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but they're really bad about like finishing meals at night.
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For whatever reason, they don't eat as much at night. So I would give a little
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tip out there to like, think about that.
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And if like, you're not as hungry or like, I do this a lot with Sarah Mason
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because I know about how much she eats.
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And I know obviously my hunger level because it's my body, but like,
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we'll split something because I'm not that hungry.
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And I know she's not going to finish whatever it is that she orders.
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Right. And so we'll, like, go together on something.
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Right. And so we do that a lot. I think in some instances we even do it where
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we'll order something a little bigger than I would usually order,
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and then me and the girls split it together because they have some of the same,
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you know, likes or dislikes.
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What he means is the happy, the P5 at Mexican.
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Yeah. That's a great example. Thank you.
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And it's a great dish. They eat the P5. But also when we go to pizza.
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Like they're, I mean, I don't know why kids just love cheese pizza, but they do.
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So I'll talk them into getting like some grilled chicken or something on the pizza as well.
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And then we'll all split a medium instead of them all getting an individual
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pizza, you know, that all combined would cost way more than just one medium pizza.
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Yeah. And it's helpful from a financial point for sure, but it is really helpful
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from like a consumption point. Because, I mean, our kids are probably just like anybody else's.
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They kind of, it's like they flirt with the lines of, like, they're trying to step over the line.
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And so it's like, you know, it's like, oh, my gosh, what you said about the
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Nukes Q sandwich with Sarah Mason. Like, at first, she was wanting to order that all by herself.
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Like, I don't know if y'all know anything about the Nukes Q at Nukes, but, like—.
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A Nukes Q sandwich is a man size. And then you get a bag of chips.
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And so I'm like, no, because Sarah Mason will sometimes, when we're out to eat,
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she will sometimes act like she's going to overeat and hurt her stomach.
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And so, you know, so it's kind of it's one of those things where we've kind
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of had to ease into it because, you know, they want to push the boundary and
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be like, no, I want to order my own thing. And we're just kind of like,
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hmm, probably not going to happen.
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You know what I mean? And I don't think, I don't know, some people might would
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disagree. But, like, I feel like at their age, now remember,
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y'all, they're eight and three.
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And so at their age, I feel like that's appropriate for us to be able to just
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be like, no, like, you're going to share this with us.
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And also, you know, it's going to not waste food and waste money and not make
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you overeat or whatever.
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Because I don't know whether you people out there know this or not,
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but like kids aren't very well versed in their fullness cues quite yet.
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And so it's something to be aware of. I know so many women that have kids that don't eat anything.
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And then there's so many women that they're like, my kid eats until like her
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stomach hurts. You know what I mean? And it's just because they're learning.
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They're learning what hunger cues and fullness cues actually are and how they feel.
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And so, you know, we try to help the girls the best we can when we're eating
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out because sometimes their eyes are bigger than their bellies, for sure.
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Almost always. Almost always. Yeah. And I mean, I have no qualms with ordering something else.
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Like if they eat whatever we got and there's, you know, they're still hungry,
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fine. Let's get something else. We literally never had to do that.
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That has never happened. Yeah.
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Except we do now at Table 100 when they get their pancakes. Yeah.
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Or the Mickey waffles we get, like us.
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Egg grits bake inside for them to split just
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literally so they won't be living on sugar yeah and also
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i mean it it like we do this a little bit at
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home how we talked in the last episode that is
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by far your favorite episode to listen
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to we talked about it but we did
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it last night like glory is always so excited
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about dessert at nighttime and so she ate
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what she thought was enough dinner and then ate her dessert
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and was still hungry yeah so i was like she asked
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for more dessert I said no I can get you more of the dinner we just had
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and she said okay and so she ate a second serving I
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think I've talked about that I've heard several times how she's so bad about
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that but like it's it's not I mean who cares you
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know she's gonna eat let her eat she's just usually so excited to get to dessert
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like it is so exciting so okay so then when we do pizza now we do separate pizza
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type well Jess and the kids kind of eat the same thing but I love a veggie pizza
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and I know that is not the best.
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Yeah it's gross. Yeah not many people would agree with me there
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but I do I just love a veggie pizza and so I will get that and and they will
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get their cheese and chicken and whatever sometimes they add pepperonis and
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then Jess and I will split a salad like a big house salad to start and that's
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that's one of my main tips like y'all I will never ask you to forgo pizza to
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lose weight because that sucks.
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And so I always just like to start with a salad to maybe fill up my belly a little bit more.
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And so then instead of eating, you know, three slices, I might eat one and a
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half or two and also get some nutrients in, you know, with the greasy that comes behind.
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So Jess and I do share a salad a good bit.
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And what else? Is that about it? Yeah, no.
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And I mean, I'm not a huge salad person. I didn't eat a salad until I was in
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college for the first time, but I've done that a lot and I've gotten now used to it.
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So when we order a medium pizza and me and the kids split it,
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I'll eat half of the salad first. And then just like you mentioned,
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I already start feeling a little full.
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So I'll eat two pieces of pizza and then the rest of it's like lunch,
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a different day of the week. So it's awesome.
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I mean, talking about like regulating your hunger cues or whatever,
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like y'all, when he just said he started eating salad in college,
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Like the dude would have eaten a whole medium pizza by himself in college.
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Like it's kind of crazy. And then now he's like, I have two pieces in a salad.
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Like now it's kind of nuts to think about. Do I sound like that? No, but it was sass.
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Um but so anyway
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yeah he he has kind of like retrained i
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would say you are actually paying attention to
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your hunger levels and like really more in tuned with
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it i was gonna say you were mentioning hunger and q hunger cues with
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the kids i was thinking i'm still trying to figure this out
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a lot of people are yeah a lot
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of people are you know like you mentioned we're
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like when we go to knooks sometimes order a salad for my
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meal because of that because sometimes i'm
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like well we had lost pizza last night for friday
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night dinner here we're saturday at lunch
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still kind of full from all we ate like i'm
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gonna get a salad so i'm not so full right so yeah i mean and so i say i like
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too though it's really in it's kind of a rare random thing because right now
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jess is getting and ready to train for another marathon. He is training for another marathon.
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And like, we knew that with his last one, he was under under nourished.
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Like he just he because he wasn't eating enough in his weeks of training leading up.
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And so it's it's really kind of crazy how like now it's hard for you to want to.
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To make myself eat. Yeah. And even though you're burning a crap ton of calories and whatever,
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it's just it's really crazy how you have changed and adapted
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that way and so like no y'all I'm
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not starving him you know like he's done
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that himself you know all right
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so I do want to transition into date night because this
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is my favorite part this is just kind of how we survive as parents of young
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kids I mean right like it and I mean I don't mean to make it dramatic but it's
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as dramatic as it sounds Like we live for date nights and getaways.
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We do. Yes, you're right. That's not dramatic. That's true.
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But also I will say, I know we kind of haven't mentioned this,
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but you, you've probably talked about it a lot, but our other date night or
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whatever, doing cheese and wine. Yeah.
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Like there's nothing like thought about as far as calorie intake goes there. When I'm cutting, I'm,
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10 different types of cheeses, these different meats and all this different
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stuff. It's like, we're going to enjoy it because it's like something that we look forward to.
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Right. Just like a date night out. Like they look a little different as far
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as like what we're eating, but like, I look forward to those just as much as I do.
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Like maybe not as much as like a nice restaurant, but it's like me and you,
24:59
Tom, where we get to choose what we're eating.
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We don't have to listen to kids whine about what we made them eat.
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And then it's just us. You know what I mean? Right. Right.
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So I would I would correct you a little bit there. Please.
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You're not used to that, are you? No.
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I do think about it because it's become. Yeah.
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Right. Because it's become such a frequent thing and we both love it. Like we really do.
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Like I really believe Jess and I could have like cheese and wine like three
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nights a week. Yeah. And be so happy.
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In fact, I was kind of like turn out on our last New Orleans trip because we only did it one time.
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In a two-night period. In a two-night period. Yeah, you know.
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But so we could really do it often.
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Like we just love it so much. And so because of that, I have had to become more
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mindful, especially since I gained the weight in Dominican Republic.
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And so, you know, I'm just a little more aware now.
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I still eat everything you cut and we put on the board. But I'm just like,
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OK, I'm going to make sure to get a workout in today and maybe save some calories
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from yesterday to put towards today.
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Like I'm a little more strategic with it currently than I was probably when
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I was just like maintaining my normal weight.
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And I didn't mean to speak for you there. I was more so me. He's the garbage
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disposal. That's right.
26:21
Yeah. So way too much food and then eat all of it because I don't like waste
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and stuff. That's right.
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That. Yes, we are. Y'all know, I'm always saying like,
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if you don't, if it's not worth it, throw it away. And I know that,
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like, then I always have, yeah, you just did it.
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Like, I always have to, like, on this course that I am preparing for the new stuff coming,
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I had to be like, but if you're worried about finances, you just have to figure
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out, you just have to figure out what's most important to you,
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you know, because Jess is like, totally opposite.
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You know, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, if it's not worth it, throw it away.
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Who cares about the extra dollars and he's like we're gonna eat it because it
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costs dollars you know so we're so we're really different there okay but yeah
27:08
back to date nights and and whatever so.
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I do I mentioned New Orleans Jess and I I get Jess goes out of town a good regularly
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I guess I would say not a lot anymore which we're very thankful for but regularly
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and so sometimes specifically we just wrapped up the summertime and I got to
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go twice I think sometimes I get to go with him.
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And so I posted on my story when I went this last time, like I get so much more
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work done. Like he's not hanging with me during the day.
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Like he's ignoring me pretty much. But like I get just some,
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it's like I'm not at home with all the things and I just can focus in a little bit more.
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And so I love to go. And then at night we just pretend like we're,
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you know, young, hot things and we get dressed up and we go down to the bar and then we go out to eat.
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And so So we don't take that time for granted.
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And so I know I have a lot of moms of young kids that listen.
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I have a lot of moms of kids that keep them busy, like the ball field,
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the soccer field, gymnastics, all the things.
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And so I know I'm talking to you when you think about, oh, my gosh,
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we've got a free time together. We've got a moment to go on a date. we've got, you know,
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time without our children around and so who wants to cut cucumbers to take to the restaurant.
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Because because the because the mental
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aspect like i talk about all the time the mental aspect of weight loss is as
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as big as as the food choosing aspect and so it's the same like you are going
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on a date night you are enjoying your time with each other you are winding down
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without a kid pulling on the back of your shirt.
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You do not want to feel all wound up inside because you had to order,
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you know, the salad with no dressing and the tilapia with steamed veggies,
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even though that sounded like the nastiest thing on the menu.
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You know, you're at a steak restaurant or whatever.
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And meanwhile, too, because I know mainly women, listen, like,
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you're looking at your husband who's done got himself the ribeye with the baked
29:20
potato Loaded down with butter and sour cream.
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Yeah, yeah. Yes. And then he got the dessert with, you know,
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like that is, that is not fun.
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That is not a wind down, enjoyable moment with your husband who you don't get
29:36
that kind of time with very often.
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And so Jess and I do date night a little different than we do normal out to eat night.
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And so. Do you mean financially?
29:48
That too. For sure that too.
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For sure that, dude. I can, y'all, sometimes I'll be like, Jess,
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it's been a hard couple weeks. I really think we need a date night.
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We need to get a babysitter for the kids. And I can just see his wallet tightening.
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You know? And I'm like, I promise I won't order a bottle of wine.
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I'll just get us a glass of wine.
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Have a few before we go. Yeah. Okay.
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But so, so when we do date night, we do 10. What's your favorite place we go
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for a date night? I was going to ask you that.
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So my favorite...
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I mean, it's always going to be a steakhouse. Gosh, I don't know.
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It's probably in between Ely's and Kessler Prime.
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Ely's been winning in my book lately. Yeah.
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I mean, either way, both of them have really great steaks. Yeah.
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And so I think depending on the vibe, I guess, because Ely's is a little bit less.
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Stuffy. Yeah, stuffy, I guess. I mean, not that Kessler Prime is very stuffy,
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but it could be. Yeah. Those times were.
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Ely is just a little more, it's like more of a trendy type steakhouse.
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Well, we like to sit in the bar. That's right. And so it's a little more fun
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atmosphere. They both are kind of like formal.
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I feel like they're equally like, I don't know. Anyway, Kessler,
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it's just a little different.
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And so, but, okay, so let's talk about kind of like, we kind of do the same thing at both.
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At ely what are we always going to get jess crab claws yes for sure no matter
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if they're 75 dollars a pound like they were two years ago or whatever when
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there was a shortage of crabs apparently.
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On the menu it says like crab balls half a pound or a pound market price and
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that that waitress comes to the table i'm like we'll have some sauteed crab
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claws and jess is like wait a and how much are they?
31:50
Well, they said, that time we ordered them and she or he, I can't remember which
31:54
waiter we had that night, but they were like,
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$58. Oh, she did get, they gave us a, it was a girl. Yeah, we were like. She gave us a warning.
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Yeah, yeah. We're like, oh, okay. And well, and I was like, okay,
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that's fine. And just like, wait, are we sure we want them?
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I mean, but they're so good. And I, but they're sauteed.
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I like them sauteed. They're so good. I could give or take a fried crab claw.
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Now, if y'all have a place that's like tremendously better of a fried crab claw,
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holler at me. But like, I'm not trying to have a fried crab claw.
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I want it sauteed and I want it to be good. And Eli's is so fun.
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And so we always do that.
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And I always get a glass of wine or a bottle of wine.
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Yeah, depending if we're like celebrating something bigger or whatever.
32:41
Right. We do a bottle. Right. So we're introduced to Paradox.
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Paradox is our favorite wine there. Wine there, yeah.
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But have we ever, did we buy a bottle for here? Yeah, it wasn't as good here
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as it was there with the steak and all the things.
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That's right, it never is. Yeah, it was like half the price,
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you know, when we buy our own bottle at the store versus at the restaurant.
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But anyway, so we always do that. And then I will say that I kind of use my
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same strategy of getting a salad.
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Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. But almost anywhere we go out to eat
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on a fancy date night, get a salad.
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Because, again, I really I am even though I'm kind of enjoying things,
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you know, I am trying to be mindful where I can.
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And I know, I know that usually I enjoy a salad. Now y'all, if it's like some kind of.
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Shaved up lettuce with some carrots and purple
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cabbage in it like no I don't want that you know I
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will pass but if it's a decent house salad I'll have
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it and then typically if
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it's like a an Ely situation I
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Jess and I will split some
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sort of a steak situation yeah because most of
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the time we're going to get some kind of appetizer that sounds really good yeah
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and then that may or may not be somewhat filling yeah
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usually it is a little bit like a salad plus an appetizer
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that we split and then a lot of these places also put bread
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down right so i mean like we're getting somewhat full before
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the meal and we're not going to order and eat two big
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steaks usually right and so we'll
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go in and get one of the bigger steaks and split it right and
34:15
it always turns out to be awesome so usually
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so like i think it's just kind of different
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for us and so i kind of want to talk about like for me versus you
34:24
like for me a date night is i'm
34:29
probably going to order more than one glass of wine you know
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which is not like a standard thing you know and probably like i like we just
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said i'm probably going to enjoy a appetizer that we wouldn't usually have but
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i am going to get that salad and so by the time we get to the steak i'm getting
34:47
pretty close to full Y'all, red wine fills your belly.
34:49
I mean, it's not like, don't say your dietician said to like drink red wine
34:54
to get full. But it does. Drink it instead of eating.
34:56
Right. It does fill your belly. And so I kind of know myself that way.
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And so I eat probably a fourth of the steak that we order, if that.
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And then like a handful of the side. Like I am pretty much done by then.
35:10
So it's almost like I live for the snacks. I live for the appetizers.
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I live for the drinks. Y'all, invite me to your party. if it is,
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you know, an appetizer party.
35:21
Like, I love the dips. I love the, you know, little tiny snacks.
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I love the sipping on the cocktails and the sipping on the wine.
35:29
Like, I am that kind of person. And I would say...
35:32
But you settle in behind the steak. And yeah.
35:37
Yeah. And it's almost always to the point where we consider getting dessert
35:41
just because we're like, hey, it's a date night. It's a celebration or whatever.
35:45
And then almost always we're like, if one doesn't just sound amazing,
35:50
we might skip it because we've eaten so much or whatever that we're good.
35:54
But then sometimes whenever it's like, you know, that I do live for the dessert and the steak. Yeah.
36:01
So. And it's really kind of funny because, like, he knows better than,
36:06
like, the last crab claws, he leaves them for me.
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Because he knows that I'm here for that. I'm a gentleman.
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Well, but think about it. With the steak, you never are like,
36:17
do you want this last bite?
36:18
You're like, you know that that's really, like, your meal because you know that
36:22
I'm pretty much done by then. For sure.
36:24
And, I mean, that's, again, like, y'all, this is just us talking about how we
36:28
kind of do it. We aren't like making recommendations by any means.
36:32
But I would say that the recurring theme right there, and it's the recurring
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theme for like everything I tell y'all ever, you know, is make room for what's worth it.
36:44
And so for what's worth it for Jess is that big piece of like perfectly cooked red meat.
36:49
And, like, really what's worth it for me is that drinking my hand and the snacky
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little yummy things that I just hadn't let myself, you know,
36:57
really indulge in lately or whatever.
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And, I mean, we kind of come together and make a meal. That's for sure. You know? And so, I mean….
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Right. Would you say the steak is your favorite part of the meal or did I ever speak for you? No, no.
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You're exactly right. I would have corrected you if I needed to. Okay.
37:17
No, like that's exactly right. Like you described yourself perfectly and that's
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pretty much what I look forward to is the steak.
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Or I think the main reason why we do some of the certain appetizers is like
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and enjoy them the way we do is I always look at it like, can I make this at
37:34
home better than what I'm going to order?
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And a steak, sometimes, you know, it's kind of in that same,
37:41
like, I cook a really good steak, I think. That's right. I agree.
37:45
And so, like, I try to be mindful about what cut of meat I order because,
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like, I'm not going to get a porterhouse or something like that at home.
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I'm just going to order, I'm just going to get rib eyes from the grocery store and cook them.
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So I try to get things that we necessarily don't cook or do well at home, like crab claws.
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We're not going to buy crab claws and saute them at home. No,
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or like tuna. Now, sometimes I will get a tuna steak because we've gotten a
38:09
little better at cooking tuna.
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But we have some friends that will give it to us every now and then,
38:14
like that they've caught.
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But like I, when I see even a really good looking tuna steak at the grocery
38:20
store, I'm like, I cannot spend.
38:22
What is it? There's like $20. I cannot spend that on that for the 75% chance
38:28
that I'm going to screw it up cooking it.
38:30
Like we, and same for redfish. Remember, we tried to cook redfish at home like
38:33
a million different times.
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And I just, I don't know. I don't know.
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So, like, if there's tuna or redfish on the menu, then I will probably get that.
38:41
Yeah. You know? And it's just, yeah, because...
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We are picky about our steakhouses because I do think we like your steak.
38:49
It ranks right up there with the steakhouses that we frequent.
38:54
But you're right. Whenever we were in New Orleans and we went to Kashawn,
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that braised pork whatever that I got, that was like a steak to me.
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Something that I couldn't necessarily replicate at home. And so I was like, this is amazing.
39:12
Kashawn was a huge fail for me.
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Like you like the other stuff well y'all
39:19
what was the thing i was about to get the cheese thing
39:22
that wasn't really cheese hogs head cheese because kashaun has like this atmosphere
39:29
of like what i like like it's like they have i mean a bar full of different
39:33
whiskeys right and several different wines like it's just like a vibe and every
39:37
every restaurant in new orleans is just like oh my gosh I could just live there just to go out to eat.
39:43
But because Sean was this way, like just a vibing place.
39:46
And so I'm like, oh, this looks like a place that I'm going to get some wine
39:49
and have like a little snacky plate. Like I'm going to get a bunch of appetizers
39:52
and just, you know, live my life.
39:54
Whereas Jess knew kind of what he was there for because he had been before.
39:58
So then I'm like, what's the, what is it? Hoghead cheese. Oh, yeah.
40:03
Y'all, our waiter went into the most gruesome. Description. Detail.
40:08
He told you what you asked. Oh, my God. Y'all just Google it because I am not even.
40:13
I was like, you can stop now. Like, I don't want that.
40:17
And so then I don't even remember what I ended up getting. But,
40:19
oh, fish. I got a fish something. And it was just pretty basic.
40:23
Yeah. I think it was a red fish. And then it wasn't red fish.
40:26
It was some kind of fish of the day or so. I don't know. It wasn't red fish, but it was just basic.
40:31
And but Jess's was like divine. Like, it was so good.
40:36
So, yeah, sometimes I fail that way, you know, when I'm not comfortable with the menu.
40:40
And then I'm like, let me find something. Because the night before we had been
40:43
out to the Italian place, the Italian barrel.
40:48
And y'all, like, that was fine. Like, that was a whole experience.
40:52
And I've been before, but we just did it right.
40:57
We got white wine because it was so hot outside. And we got cheese and bread and meat.
41:03
And then we got this pasta to split. Like it was like something, it was dreamy.
41:08
So I was, I was trying to be a little better at Kashawn and it bit me in the butt for sure.
41:14
Cause it wasn't a cheap piece of fish either. You know what I mean? That's right.
41:19
Yeah. So that's it. I just had just, I wanted just to come on and kind of talk
41:24
about, I think it is so important.
41:28
For you guys to hear regularly that Jess and I are just like normal people who
41:34
like normal food like we're not like oh we splurged and we got the red fish
41:39
and steamed veggies you know like what that you know like we are we like the
41:43
fatty stuff we like the good stuff because sometimes,
41:48
in my experience it's been that you know you just
41:51
assume that because I'm a weight loss coach or whatever or
41:54
because you know we are in decent shape
41:57
that we forego the delicious
42:00
things in life and that's not it at all we're just a
42:03
little more strategic about how
42:07
we get it in and then we are trying to be more mindful
42:10
of like when we're full and you know boxing things up or whatever we might need
42:15
to do to not gorge ourselves for sure sometimes we do it anyway though like
42:22
the italian place like the giant place and it's usually i usually somehow find more room in my belly.
42:29
When I get that second glass of wine, I'm like, oh, yeah.
42:33
Opens up a little bit different part of the stomach. I need,
42:37
I need, you know, I need to eat this too, you know.
42:40
So, you know, that's, that's, that's.
42:43
We all have our flaws, people. Yeah. Last week we talked about grace.
42:47
And so I give myself grace in those moments.
42:51
Are we, are we getting close to the end here? We are. Are you about to bust
42:54
me out? I have a question. Okay. I'm going to ask you a question. Okay.
42:58
Where I was going to ask, like, why do you choose? You asked me my favorite
43:01
restaurant. I was going to ask, why do you choose certain restaurants?
43:05
And I think I know the answer.
43:06
It's based, usually it's based off of what kind of salads they have.
43:10
Where is your favorite salad?
43:16
You have so many favorites. Okay. Well, no.
43:19
Okay. I have several that I really like. It depends on what mood I'm in.
43:22
I love the sugar magnet. Well, my clients know this one.
43:26
My local clients. No, I love sugar magnolia.
43:29
It's just like a local, really, sugar magnolia started as like a local. It's a takery.
43:34
Yeah, like they make cakes and cookies and all the delicious things.
43:37
And then they opened up a little extension part where they offer like a blue plate during the week.
43:44
But they also offer different sandwiches and different salads.
43:48
And they have a salad called Come On In.
43:51
And it's got chicken on it. You can get it fried or grilled.
43:54
It's got broccoli. It's got green onions.
43:58
It's got feta cheese, tomatoes. But the dressing is like a honey,
44:03
almost a little bit Asian-y type dressing. It is so good.
44:09
So much so that for a while there, and I need to put this back in my rotation.
44:14
For a while there, I would go over there and buy a big thing of the dressing
44:16
and then just kind of make my own for lunches at home.
44:20
And then, so I really love that one. But I really do enjoy like Nuke's Greek
44:25
salad. I don't know why, though.
44:27
That's kind of weird. I mean, you know, it's like kind of basic.
44:31
I don't know. I don't eat Greek salads. Well, I really like it.
44:33
Probably because I really do love like a Kefir's Greek salad.
44:36
But you never really want to
44:37
go to those kind of places. It's been a long time since we've been there.
44:41
And then I do love to go to Salad Station and just like build my own salad.
44:47
You know, if you've noticed, I went once this week and once last week.
44:51
I'm sure he's noticed, y'all. I didn't notice. You didn't notice.
44:53
Oh, I put yesterday's on the company card. It was a company meeting.
44:58
I don't track our expenses. It was a company meeting.
45:00
It's just crazy.
45:04
I feel like I'm probably missing one. Yeah, I don't know where,
45:08
but I know that you think ahead and look at menus and always choose based off of,
45:15
what are you usually looking for in a salad that you like?
45:19
It's usually dressing? Yeah, well, it's just like, you can tell by a menu,
45:23
like, if their salad is going to be, like...
45:26
Thawed out you know like some restaurants just put a salad
45:29
on a menu just to have a salad on the menu and then some restaurants are
45:33
really like accommodating to people like me who are who are
45:36
considering the salad and and so they like
45:38
to make it kind of unique yeah and so i and
45:41
that is one thing you mentioned that i always do like if
45:44
we are going somewhere new i'm a foodie too
45:47
though i mean it's not really always because i'm trying to figure out calorie
45:51
counts especially if it's a date night kind of restaurant i'm always looking
45:55
ahead at the menu the reviews i am always sitting at the table and looking at
46:00
yelp reviews just i'm like oh okay about 10 people have mentioned the.
46:06
Filet and so maybe we should get that you know and so
46:08
but see that's where the reviews let me down because
46:12
they talked about that hog head cheese or what the heck all the
46:15
people and i'm like you've got to remember where you are because
46:18
we were in you know occasion atmosphere atmosphere
46:22
that's right so anyway i look ahead
46:25
at the menu because so i'm gonna say okay do any of these
46:28
salads sound decent to me no so what else is here that that sounds good to me
46:34
y'all i don't pick a salad because a salad's healthier a lot of times some of
46:38
like for instance the come on in salad that dressing is so high in sugar and
46:43
it is so high in calories like they put a crap ton of olive oil and a crap ton of honey in there.
46:47
And so I don't pick a salad because it's the healthier options.
46:51
You know, most of the time I pick it because it just is what sounds good.
46:55
A salad sits decent on my belly for a lunchtime meal kind of thing.
47:00
And so, but if there's not a salad that is, that sounds good,
47:04
then I'll say, okay, what else can I get?
47:06
Like what else here looks decent enough that it's not going to break the calorie bank?
47:12
You know, especially if it's like a lunchtime or out to eat with the kids kind
47:16
of situation. Now with date night, I just look at what is the most highly reviewed
47:22
and what sounds the best, you know, but again, maybe two, maybe two. Yeah.
47:27
But again, it's like, that's so special. It's so once in a while,
47:30
you know? And so it's one of those things where.
47:34
Like we've had some of our clients, like they are traveling a lot,
47:38
like, or they, oh, they take clients out to eat a lot.
47:41
And so like you can, I don't care. Like if you take your clients to Amerigo
47:45
three times a week, you cannot treat your Amerigo trip as like a special occasion.
47:51
You've got to start learning how to make some decent choices there or else you'll
47:55
never, I mean, you'll never offset pasta, you know, with a creamy sauce three
48:01
times a week for the rest of your life.
48:02
Like that's impossible. you'd have to starve the rest of the day.
48:04
And that's not what we're promoting here.
48:06
And so it's for me, it's more about what kind of atmosphere,
48:10
what kind of vibe are we in?
48:12
Like a setting, if you notice, like when we used to, we don't do it anymore,
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but we used to just got a promotion. So he doesn't see many of his co-workers anymore.
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We used to have dinners with his co-workers a lot because his co-workers were local.
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And like, if you notice, like I don't usually splurge
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on on even on your real estate dinner we had
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that night what did I get I got something so random
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instead of a steak that was paid for because I
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just thought like I mean I'm not this is a
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random Tuesday like I'm not trying to you know even though it is paid for or
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whatever and so it's really about just being mindful of like are you really
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going to enjoy your meal while you're sitting here with this like president
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of whatever company trying to like persuade him to buy your product no so why
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don't you just get something that's like.
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Tastes decent but isn't gonna like make you regret life afterwards
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right oh my god
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this is the longest podcast we've ever had okay people i hope y'all enjoyed
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it we'll see if jess you know breaks his record or bring me back yeah if he
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meets his standard that we've set with this episode, but I do hope y'all enjoy it.
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And until next time, y'all remember, especially on date night to Say Grace.
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