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Permission to Pause: Brooke Burke on Wellness Retreats, Midlife & Finding Your Way Back to You · The Body Pod

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  Speaker 1: When I do the ims or when we write those letters,
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  Speaker 1: the transformational letter writing experiences. Yeah, no one's going to
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  Speaker 1: read that letter. You are free to let go into
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  Speaker 1: unravel and to reveal your deepest, darkest truth because we
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  Speaker 1: don't have a space in life we should. Hopefully we're
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  Speaker 1: learning that as women. Hi everyone, my name is Haley
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  Speaker 1: and this is Laura, and welcome to the body Pod.
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  Speaker 1: All right, for Quirk, welcome back to the body Pod.
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  Speaker 2: Happy to be back. I'm glad I got invited back.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm glad I got invited to your beautiful backyard.
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  Speaker 1: This is so stunning and I feel so grateful to
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  Speaker 1: be here.
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  Speaker 3: I brought you on today because I know that I
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  Speaker 3: shared a lot with my audience about your retreat in
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  Speaker 3: Costa Rica, and I kind of just wanted to talk
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  Speaker 3: through it with you.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anyone really about it, so I
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  Speaker 1: haven't even had a chance to download. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is the first time that we're connecting since Costa Rica.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot that happens when you return from
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  Speaker 1: a retreat. Then there's kind of a come down, then
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  Speaker 1: there's a processing period. So I'm actually really excited also
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  Speaker 1: to unpack that with you. And I love that you've
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  Speaker 1: shared so much so authentically with your audience because it
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  Speaker 1: is very sacred and you're very public. And I love
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  Speaker 1: the conversations that we've had. We've probably talked about too
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  Speaker 1: much on the podcast. If you know me, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to do it any other way. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm thrilled, and I appreciate the trust and witnessing you
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  Speaker 1: go through the experience was found for me and beautiful
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  Speaker 1: and touching, and I knew I really liked you before
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  Speaker 1: and then and it actually deepened the relationship and the
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  Speaker 1: admiration that I have for you. And so there's so
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  Speaker 1: much I want to there's so much to you.
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  Speaker 3: Let's start with kind of what how you got into
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  Speaker 3: retreat because when we met, when we first met a
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  Speaker 3: year ago, you would just come back from Costa Rica
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  Speaker 3: and I shared this in my post and you said, Hayley,
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  Speaker 3: You've got to come.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I'm for sure, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent, and I thought she's never gonna come.
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  Speaker 3: I had zero intention, zero intention, and then Elisa kept
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  Speaker 3: reaching out, and then you reached out a few times,
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  Speaker 3: and I was just like pacifying like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think I can go. I'll get back to you.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was sitting in Mexico in January, the
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  Speaker 3: start of a year, and I get this text from
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  Speaker 3: Melissa and she's and for some reason, I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: sign me up, let's go. So this was this was
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be the year of me doing a lot
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  Speaker 3: of really hard things, and that was one of them.
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  Speaker 3: I've never I've done like three yoga classes, which was
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  Speaker 3: a parent. When we were there, everyone else knew all
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  Speaker 3: the moves, and I was just like following along.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've done probably like three strength class It's okay,
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  Speaker 1: so we can level that up. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be what it's gonna be, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I came in as a one hundred percent newbie,
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  Speaker 3: and honestly, I was kind of going there to just
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  Speaker 3: be by myself, and and I kind of was. I
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  Speaker 3: was there, I didn't participate in every activity I was launching.
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  Speaker 3: That loss happens that day. So it was really and
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  Speaker 3: I think I'd mentioned this week, this is a terrible
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  Speaker 3: week for me to go.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna come.
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  Speaker 3: But if and if you want to fill the spot
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  Speaker 3: with someone that can participate in all of the activities.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not to try to give it your spot and
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  Speaker 3: you're like, no, just come, just come, And so I.
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  Speaker 1: Did a little rising everybody to get her there. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, we're going to kick off your program together.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to carve out time for that. I personally,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go live.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do whatever it took for a woman
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  Speaker 1: like you, who's so accomplished, who does so much and
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  Speaker 1: is so connected to a community of women. There was
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  Speaker 1: something that was calling me to get you there, and
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  Speaker 1: that I can't explain.
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  Speaker 3: I know chills because I feel the same and I am.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I mentioned this down there, but
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  Speaker 3: I my children, and I'm not proud of this. It's
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  Speaker 3: not like a badge of honor. But my children have
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  Speaker 3: probably seen me cry, Like on one hand, and it's
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  Speaker 3: it's not that I don't want to cry. It just
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  Speaker 3: doesn't like I just don't cry. And there's that's a
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  Speaker 3: whole other podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Please inside me on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Went wow.
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  Speaker 3: So I came and I really was like I was
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  Speaker 3: invested in doing something that I'd never done before. I'd
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  Speaker 3: never done breath work I've never done a sound bath,
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  Speaker 3: I'd never done cacowscrub, I've never done like few yoga classes.
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't done any of it, and I I showed up,
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  Speaker 3: and I really had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: What to expect.
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  Speaker 1: Like I landed at the airport and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell am.
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  Speaker 2: I doing here? What am I doing?
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  Speaker 1: Way persons will go through that day one or day two,
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  Speaker 1: and even after the first time, they're like, I think
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  Speaker 1: I need to get the next flight out here because
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  Speaker 1: this is just way too hard. I experienced so much
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  Speaker 1: of everything. They're either canceling the week of right before,
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  Speaker 1: wanting to get out of there early, so afraid to
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  Speaker 1: meet themselves, so afraid to show up. I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: all that about you. Yeah, so I appreciate the honesty,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's incredible that you locked in, dropped
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  Speaker 1: into an experience fully open minded, with no knowledge. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that must have been really scary, foreign, and I should
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  Speaker 1: say foreign and uncomfortable, because you're not really a woman
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  Speaker 1: that's like scared. You're a very powerful, strong woman. But
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  Speaker 1: that must have been really uncomfortable. It was very uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 3: So when I showed up and I get I really
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  Speaker 3: was just I have never I've I've traveled a lot
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  Speaker 3: for work. I've done a lot of you know, bike
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  Speaker 3: trips and things like that. So I've traveled, but I've
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  Speaker 3: always been with people, and I've never even though I
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  Speaker 3: was with people here, I just wanted to kind of
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  Speaker 3: have like alone time with me.
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  Speaker 1: I have never.
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  Speaker 3: I've been running really hard for a really long time,
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  Speaker 3: and I honestly just needed a break. And so even
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  Speaker 3: though I was going to be working, when I wasn't working,
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  Speaker 3: I knew that I was by myself, that I could
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  Speaker 3: be by myself and just be steel and I am
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  Speaker 3: not that type of person at all.
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  Speaker 1: So I was committed. I was when I signed up.
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  Speaker 1: Even though I was like, what the hell, let's just
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  Speaker 1: give it a go and try and what am I doing?
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  Speaker 3: I really did have the intention of coming in and
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  Speaker 3: really trying to embrace myself with all of these new practices.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of hungry. I don't know how to
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  Speaker 3: explain it, but my soul was kind of hungry for
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  Speaker 3: something and I and I just thought maybe I'll find
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  Speaker 3: it here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I love the openness, the willingness to do that. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know any of this about you upon your arrival.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's incredible and there's something so valuable and
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  Speaker 1: so hard to come by. Time alone, time for a woman. Mothers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're givers, we're nurturers, we're raising a family.
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  Speaker 1: We have this ability to give and give and give
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  Speaker 1: and do everything that anybody needs and do it well.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's happens during the evolution
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  Speaker 1: of being a woman or our aging process, but I
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  Speaker 1: hear this common denominator that they were invaluable. Meantime doesn't
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  Speaker 1: come easy, No, And even though we're in a group
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  Speaker 1: of women, leading yourself alone, sleeping alone at night, being
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  Speaker 1: in a hotel room alone, being in a foreign country,
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  Speaker 1: being out of your norm, eating different foods, having a
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  Speaker 1: different cup of coffee, not having access to everything, it's
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  Speaker 1: really rocking and really confronting, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, I showed up, and I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: really honest.
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  Speaker 3: At first, I feel like I came in and I
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  Speaker 3: felt like, well, everyone kind of came with somebody or
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  Speaker 3: they'd come the year before. I think there was like
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  Speaker 3: some Erica and then I mean there was a couple
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  Speaker 3: of new people, but they either had their husbands with them,
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  Speaker 3: and I kind of was just like, oh, well, am
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  Speaker 3: I the only one.
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  Speaker 1: That's by myself?
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  Speaker 4: Or that's what I feel like, we're the only one
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  Speaker 4: in life though. Yeah, yeah, I can actually assure you.
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  Speaker 4: People came repeaters, people, some came with friends, but many
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  Speaker 4: people do come alone. And I want people to come alone.
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  Speaker 4: I love when a group of friends comes. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: But there's also something so sacred about being out of
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  Speaker 4: your tribe and out of your comfort zone and finding
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  Speaker 4: a space and an opportunity to meet yourself without having
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  Speaker 4: the support of the normal people in your life, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's your partner or your bestie, and also having an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to be whoever you need to be that might
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  Speaker 4: be different.
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  Speaker 1: Than the woman than everyone is used to see.
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  Speaker 2: That for me is fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I will say I started out and I remember
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  Speaker 3: the first morning. We were in this beautiful shaala outside
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  Speaker 3: and there were monkeys and there's birds, and we were
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  Speaker 3: doing Yeah, we're in the jungle and we're doing this
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  Speaker 3: opening yoga. I don't even remember the first song. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you remember the playlist, but the first
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  Speaker 3: song was really powerful. It was I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it was triable, but then it there. I mean, someone
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  Speaker 3: was saying, anyways, it just like I remember having chills.
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  Speaker 3: We were doing this yoga flow. I'm new to it,
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  Speaker 3: and I just remember having chills and just feeling like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get something really special here. And so went
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  Speaker 3: throughout the day we did yoga. I think we did.
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  Speaker 3: We meditated that night, and I probably, like my mind
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  Speaker 3: is super squirrely, as I know a lot of our
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  Speaker 3: so I don't even think.
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  Speaker 1: I probably was.
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  Speaker 3: Like kind of doing it and thinking about it and
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  Speaker 3: just maybe not even really there. I mean, it is
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  Speaker 3: definitely a practice, and I would say that's the hardest
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  Speaker 3: skill as I've come back home.
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  Speaker 1: It's the quieting of the monkey brain that's really challenging, right,
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  Speaker 1: learning how to sit still. But I remember the morning
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  Speaker 1: that you're describing and that day and the music is
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  Speaker 1: very intentional for me. So we're nurturing in nature, right.
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  Speaker 1: You have all these beautiful things in life that Mother
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  Speaker 1: Nature has offered us. You've got the different colors, the
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  Speaker 1: sound of nature, all these voices, the birds, the monkeys,
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  Speaker 1: the vision that is a completely different vision than I
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  Speaker 1: have ever witnessed, and all of the retreats.
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  Speaker 2: Faces are very intentional.
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  Speaker 1: The music is intentional to take you out of your
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  Speaker 1: norm and to drop feel into a full sensory experience, right,
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  Speaker 1: sensory overload. No, it's just a sense of newness. There's
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  Speaker 1: like these I don't know, these aha moments, these these
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  Speaker 1: these beautiful moments that are it's kind of like looking
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  Speaker 1: around you notice the color of the leaves and the
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  Speaker 1: way the sunlight's hitting and then the birds are singing,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe you didn't slow down long enough to ever
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  Speaker 1: listen to that bird singing, or notice that you have
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  Speaker 1: a waterfall in your backyard from just the pool trickle,
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  Speaker 1: but you weren't really listening to it, or I don't
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  Speaker 1: know this change it like all of these things happen
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  Speaker 1: when we slow down and when we drop into nature.
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  Speaker 1: So I do remember that, and I remember our opening ceremony,
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  Speaker 1: which I love to do. That I did once with
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  Speaker 1: my sister in law who was guiding a happiness journey
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  Speaker 1: with a group of women.
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  Speaker 2: We did in my tep for the first time. That
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  Speaker 2: was incredibly powerful.
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  Speaker 1: But it's called not right now. But you know what
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  Speaker 1: we should do the pod, the body pod again when
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  Speaker 1: the tepee is up, because it's really sacred in supertribal
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of Indian energy here that I love,
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  Speaker 1: and the energy in Custrika is also very special. And
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  Speaker 1: so for you to come out of your life as
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  Speaker 1: you know it and to drop into all of that newness,
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  Speaker 1: it's undeniable, right. And I remember the ceremony that's called
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  Speaker 1: the Root, the Rose and the Thorn, and we sit
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  Speaker 1: and circle and it's very confronting and very uncomfortable for
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  Speaker 1: women to speak out loud and speak openly in a
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  Speaker 1: group of strangers, and also to share something really vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: And the root also, the rose is something beautiful in
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  Speaker 1: your life. The thorn is something not so beautiful, maybe
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  Speaker 1: something that's really challenging. And the root is what you're
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  Speaker 1: working on right sort of what you're planting and what
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  Speaker 1: you're earthing.
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  Speaker 2: And those three.
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  Speaker 1: Questions really wake up what am I grateful for? What
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  Speaker 1: kind of sucks right now? And what am I working on?
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  Speaker 1: What did I come here to work on? And many
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  Speaker 1: people that come to retreat don't know why they can't
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  Speaker 1: and that's really okay. They know why by the time
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  Speaker 1: they leave, but they come with reservations. They come guarded.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you're a guarded woman. I think you
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  Speaker 1: are a strong woman, and there is an armor that
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  Speaker 1: has served you you And so I never expect a
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  Speaker 1: woman to just show up, strip it down and let's go.
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  Speaker 1: That wouldn't even be a human experience. What happens consecutively
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  Speaker 1: over time with intentional practices is you begin to peel
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  Speaker 1: things back. And another great example is if I may share, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I remember witnessing you, and it's very private, which is
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  Speaker 1: why I ask you for permission. I remember witnessing you
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  Speaker 1: being emotional, lying down on the mat and not knowing you,
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't my place to really explore that. So
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  Speaker 1: I just sort of witness and watch and I take
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  Speaker 1: it in and I know that something is happening inside.
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  Speaker 1: Something is either being awakened or released or there's a blockage.
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  Speaker 1: That's I mean, there's so many different things that happened
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  Speaker 1: literally in the energy field of the body, not just
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  Speaker 1: in the emotions, but in this vessel and this container.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember watching that and I was like, hmm,
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  Speaker 1: we're so we're beginning, right, And I kind of I
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  Speaker 1: don't really tiptoe, you know, how I do my work,
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  Speaker 1: but I I tiptoe around the experiences so that they
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  Speaker 1: can become whatever experience each individual is meant to have,
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  Speaker 1: and every retreat is different, every woman there is different.
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  Speaker 1: But for you to come in so strong, which I
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  Speaker 1: love about you. You have this beautiful, powerful energy, and
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  Speaker 1: to watch that slowly peel away. When we did our
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  Speaker 1: first I AM meditation, you didn't say a word. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't say a word. I was so uncomfy.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to bounce like the first five minutes
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  Speaker 3: you did and I thought you might have.
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  Speaker 1: And you are out of my skin. You're an educated, strong,
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  Speaker 1: expressive woman like you speak to very large, powerful groups
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  Speaker 1: of people and inspire them and I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on here with hey?
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  Speaker 1: Like so I'm just watching. I'm like, this is really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Not a word okay. When we went back again to
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  Speaker 1: revisit it, to do your live unexpectedly, I said, we
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  Speaker 1: are going to I was so pissed at you. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to do another I AM Meditation. And here's how
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna work. I'm gonna say something, You're gonna say something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something. We're live relind you and I
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  Speaker 1: can't say no. Brook. Now, how you guys saw that
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  Speaker 1: and nope, she just went and I'm going to at
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  Speaker 1: picking up the slack and like I can just keep
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  Speaker 1: going and going. And it was so amazing to watch
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  Speaker 1: you go from guarded, uncertain, slightly confused to participating to
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  Speaker 1: ah to then making it your own to then sharing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like literally watching layers like come down and then
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  Speaker 1: emotional layers as well. And I'm so happy I have
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  Speaker 1: experienced that with you. It was amazing. It was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I have done that practice every morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm positive that I am meditating wrong, but I I
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  Speaker 3: will like turn on the Costa Rica meditation, like the
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  Speaker 3: playlist and I have like a few favorites, so I
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  Speaker 3: put them on and for the first song, I do
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  Speaker 3: all of the ims.
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  Speaker 1: I love that in my head.
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  Speaker 3: I don't say it out loud, but now they can
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  Speaker 3: roll off where at first, all I could think of, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a little embarrassed, is a few good things. But
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  Speaker 3: then everything that kept coming up, like I think on
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  Speaker 3: our life. I was like, I'm scared and I said
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  Speaker 3: things and I was like, oh, you're supposed to only
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  Speaker 3: say pop like.
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  Speaker 1: No, So here's the thing, here's the real talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: There's no rules and there's no right or wrong, and
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  Speaker 1: I would rather have something be messy, honest, and even
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  Speaker 1: vulgar if it needed to be, because those are that's
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  Speaker 1: our truth. And I think as women were raised in
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  Speaker 1: a society that's like be nice and be polite and
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  Speaker 1: be appropriate and be prep for Like, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: room for that at all in the retreat times. So
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  Speaker 1: when you said, and I remember it, you were like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm like I'm vulnerable, and you're like, I'm intimidated.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like I'm fragile. Like another woman's story and other
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  Speaker 1: words will inspire another one to go, oh, I feel
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  Speaker 1: that too, And not only do I feel that, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm terrified, you know, or for a woman to say
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  Speaker 1: I'm strong, I need to I'm surrendering. It's like there's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: all of these things that just spark and ignite, and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: then it becomes this collective story of shared emotions that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: sometimes we don't have words for our emotions in another language,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I imagine they have more to pull from. Sometimes we
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: don't have words, and we don't always need words, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: if we can find then we start identifying with all
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: those feelings. It was awesome to watch. It was nice.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: It was really And when I say transformative, like I
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: came back, I came back a different person, Like no.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Questions, I did too.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to say for people that might think
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that they know you, and honestly, I've had a lot
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: of women reach out and say, how was it, Like?
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: What was it like?
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: I had met you for a podcast, We had a
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: great connection, but honestly, you don't know how that's going
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: to be for a week together with someone and what's
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: it going to be like?
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, what's it going to be like?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And I think that one of the most unexpected things
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that I walked away with was I could not help.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But the first thing out of my mouth that I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: wanted to say.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Your ability to hold space for all of these women,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I like, I knew on the mat when I started crying,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: and I cried multiple times, I could hear other women
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: sobbing too. And to be in a place where you
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: don't know anyone and by this time, sure we had
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: kind of connected with a few, you know, with the women,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: but we're still pretty much strangers. It Like that night
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: where we did this soundback, I let go of things
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: that I needed to let go of that I was
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: not planning on let go, letting go of and your
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: ability to really hold space. You're such a nurturer, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I guess I didn't expect that. I knew you were
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: kind and you were funny. I knew you were charismatic,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: but like I didn't know that you had this tender,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: nurturing side. So that was really that was really fun too.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I guess, a Walt, You know, there's
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: always a persona and a character, and I don't have
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: room or space in my life and entertainment or in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: television to explore those things, nor would I. It's sort
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of like this conflict where I have this life and
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: entertainment and then I have my my you know, my
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: wellness world that really is my passion and really speaks
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: to me, and they're so wildly different.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But I appreciate you saying that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: And my life was changed when I started doing this work,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: people like John Paul Kremeni, my breath work guru teacher.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I remember going to a class and going WHOA and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: having a similar experience to what you had, not really
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: knowing how to deal with certain things and certain emotions,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and witnessing a healing process that was so powerful and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: painful and necessary that I wanted to continue to practice
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and learn those things so I could bring them into
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: my retreat work. But it's amazing that you didn't know
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what to expect, and that you expected nothing actually except
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit of me time, right, a little bit
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of meantime, a little bit of ocean. I love that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I think their retreat experience is different for everyone, and
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I think the things that you discover and that you
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: learn about yourself individividually are so surprising and beautiful and necessary.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: It's just it's hard for me to describe what a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: retreat is like to other women, because it's the experience
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that you need at that time in your life, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it's what you make it, and you know intentionally. It's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: guided by music. There's body work, and yoga isn't just
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to work out or to exercise. Its therapy. It's medicines
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: tap into your body. It's to slow the hell down.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: It's to quiet this down, to open the heart space
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: so that you can lie there for two minutes frishrabasana
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: or wherever however you call it, so that you can
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: quiet down your mind, lower your stress levels, and listen
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to your body. Do you remember when we spent some
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: time talking to our heart. People are like, I've never
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: talked to my heart before. We gave our heart a voice,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: So what would my heart say? My heart's never spoken
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to me before. I'm like, why, well, mind in neither
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: in my twenty thirties or forties. It wasn't until I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: really learned how to do the work. Way created space
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: where I held space for myself, where I could go
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: inside and have those intimate conversations, the good, bad, and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the ugly, and the provocative and the vulgar and the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: fucked up and the beautiful and the gripe. Like all
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: of it. I want all of it, and so when
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: women come. But what inspires me about this work is
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: there's no writer wrong. There's really no rules when I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: do the ims or when we write those letters, the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: transformational letter writing experiences. Yeah, no one's going to read
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that letter. You are free to let go and to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: unravel and to reveal your deepest, darkest truths. And it
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: could be they as you should. I didn't read the letter,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: but of course you did. Because we don't have a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: space in life. We should. Hopefully we're learning that as
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: women to just be sometimes and you know, the things
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that you're allowed to unleash and let go of, unpenned
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to paper are really important and really sacred, and maybe
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they're not meant to be read. Maybe they should be burned,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: by the way, and that's okay.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, can you talk explain what the transformational letter writing
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: is because I'd never done that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It was brandish. I remember the first time that I
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: did it. It was deeply painful and emotional. I hyper
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: ventilated and cried in my eyes out and I had
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: no idea what was coming. So TLW transformational letter writing
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: is part of what I studied in breath work and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: with other teachers as well. But it's an opportunity. People
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: do it all the time. By the way, you're having
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: a struggle with a colleague, write them a letter. It's
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: not that you're going to give them the letter. Yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't give them the letter. It's for you to
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts out and to process them and to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: go through them and to experience them. And then the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: other side of the exercise is writing a letter to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: yourself from that person so that you have an opportunity
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to hear some things that maybe you need to hear.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That's just healing. And so people that write letters to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: people that have passed away so that they can grieve,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: so that they can have some kind of a spiritual connection.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: People write hateful letters with things that they've been harboring,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that they're holding onto in this body and this container
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that need an outlet. It's really really fucking powerful. People
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: write letters back to themselves so people that have violated
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: them and have hurt them, so that there's a healing
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that takes place.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Because sometimes in life we just hold. We hold.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: That's where diseases created, stress, deppression, anxiety. We hold on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to all these things. We never address it, we never
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: let it out of our body. And people also yearn
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and long for things that they want and wish for
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: from people, and some of those people might not be
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: capable of ever giving them to them. So it's part
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: make believe, but it's real. Our body doesn't necessarily process
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, truth and you know fantasy. It's a profound experience.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: It's an opportunity to just check in and get really honest,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and most people aren't really honest in life, honest.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: With themselves or with the people around them.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: It's hard too scary, too hard, too much judgment, way
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: easier to just be polite and be nice. Yeah. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: don't really believe that, but most people do. I think
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it's way harder to not be truthful, and not everyone
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: can take that. That's why the letter writing is really
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: really good.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if we go back to because I will say,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: what was your intention when we met in that dark
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: room and we did the Rose, the thorn and the root.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: My intention was to create a space for people to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: tap into the reality that we all have beautiful parts
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of our life, even if they're forgotten, even if you're suffering,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: even if your life sucks, there are parts of your
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: life that represent a rose. There are good things everywhere,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and if you don't know them and you look for them,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you can find them in those moments. And the thorn
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is just acknowledging and paying tribute to something that's really
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: hard but doesn't feel good. Because a lot of people
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: don't identify that thing that is really challenging and maybe negative.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: They just deal with it, are they They didn't even
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: call it a thorn because they just thought that's just
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: part of life. And I'm okay with that because I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: can take it, especially strong people, I wouldn't really realize
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: here's the beautiful thing, here's the not so beautiful thing.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Do I need more of this and less of this?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And then the root is really like what do I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: what do I want to Maybe not what I am
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: working on, because some people aren't working on anything. What
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: do I need to work on that is gonna help
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: me become or let go or get more of this
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: or less of this. So it's a visual that really
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: works for people. Did your pass around a rose? We did? Okay,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: we did, Yes, we passed. We've have around a flower? Yeah, yeah,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: we probably did. So I passed around father's flowers. Yeah,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: maybe it was a father something.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I remember something was passed around. But I remember when
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I went in that morning and your voice was quieter
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and the studio was dark, and it just have like
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: a different vibe than maybe the other one.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: No, it's interesting.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: At the Body Tree, there's five incredible shallas open air.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: You're in the sunlight, you're in the jungle, you're all over.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: This particular room intentionally was chosen because it's a closed room.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: It's very easy to control sound in there for me.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: But it's also dark, so you're not real and that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: was also the room where we did the mirror reflection
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: exercise where I had Buddy's see that was uncomfy, too,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable, seated in front of a mirror so that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: they could beat themselves and see themselves. But in darkness,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting what happens because we begin to use
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: other senses. So imagine having a meal and blindfolded, you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: probably would smell, taste, experience, touch, see all things differently.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Imagine if you ate with your eyes, that's a different experience.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: But imagine if you took away sight and you had
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: to rely on all of these other things. You might
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: smell urged mint flavors. You might have a completely different
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: culinary experience. Yeah, same thing love making intimately, imagine being
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in a completely pitch dark room with your partner, whatever
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: intimacy looks like.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: It's a deliciately different experiences.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Kind of an awesome experience, by the way, amazing because
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you're using all of these other senses. It's wild. So
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: when you take people in a dark room where I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about how you're looking at me,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: you kind of meet yourself differently. I think most of
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: us walk through life worrying about what other people are thinking.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And if I'm looking at you and I'm really looking
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: at you, and I'm really taking you and that's all
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if I'm looking at you looking at
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: me wondering is my hair funny? Or why are you
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: looking at me like that? Or I don't know, drive
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: like black under my eyes? Or are you're looking at
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: the wrinkles like It's a completely experience, so it allows
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you to really just to see it and to see
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: yourself and to create a safe, safe space. You probably
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: remember hearing me say during retreat time and breath to cocoon,
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to be selfish, to be in your own world. Even
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: though you're hearing music, and you might be hearing emotion.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: You might be hearing trauma, you might be hearing laughter,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you might be hearing joy, you might be hearing tears, crying.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Lots of things happen in breathwork, but you're kind of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: meant to cocoon and just care for yourself a little late.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: That's why the music is still loud. Also because I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: want to drown out everyone else's experience so that you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: could have your own. Well.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: I remember, like as the feather or the rose, whatever
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: it was was getting passed around.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You're like again. I was like, here we go again,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I had I didn't even have anything to say, like
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I did. No. I was like, okay, just make it up,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: make something up.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: And the second I got the I think it was
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: the feather now that you say feathers feather and I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: and I had it in my hands, it just like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: came out. And I think, for me, I'm positive I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: not the only one with this. But for me again,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't know what I was going to say.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: And so the.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: The the rose and the thorn were pretty easy. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: then when I thought about the root, and I have
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: to say really quick, I had in my room there
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: was a tree growing through the room in this and
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: so when I walked in and I was like, okay,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: we just this is the root, like I have this
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: live tree rowing through my room, and there was something
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: symbolic about that. But when I thought about what I
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: really needed. I have spent my entire life make other
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: people comfortable around me and disappoint them. So I've done
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: this thesing other people my entire life. And I finally
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: at that moment, I was I'm really trying I'm still
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: doing it, but it was finally the first time where
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I've done a few things in the last few years
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: that have really hur there's really disappointed people. But for me,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: it was the first time that I had used my voice,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: even though I knew that there were going to be
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of people disappointed with the decision that I made.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And that's hard. That's really hard to be okay with.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, my mom, there's a few people that kind
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: of helped me through this, but they know my story.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I think only a few people really know your story,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and that was pretty.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not everyone is worthy of knowing it. That was
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: really impactful for me. So that is something that I've
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: taken home along with the meditation. There's something about when
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: I got home and I ordered the incense and I
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: got it already and I made this like little room
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and got there and I'm like, okay, I don't even
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: know what you do with your hands, but something like this,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there but just it was almost like
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: my soul was like, oh, welcome back, Like wow, yes,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And so it does get easier.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I still it's a skill that I.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Need to work on, but for me, it shows me
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: that I matter, and even though I have it, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a confident person, there is a part of me
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: that doesn't want to do any inWORD work. And so
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: that was really something that as I walked away, I
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: had no idea what I was going to walk away
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: from that retreat with.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's so interesting about this a couple
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: of things that I want to touch on from the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: outside looking in. You never know what's going on inside
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: of a person, right, especially a strong, capable person that's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: got their whole life together and everything's working, that can
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: have gunfire going off inside.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Their head and nobody knows it.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Right. One of the reasons why people don't want to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: do that deep inner work is because it's just too
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: hard and we've got everything handled because we're like really
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: capable people. We've got it's way easier. Just I've got it,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and just keep grinding and keep powering through. What happened
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: during that time where you found yourself at a space
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to have a voice where you were I don't want
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to say force, but you were inspired to dig a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: little deep and answer a question that was very personal.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Things come up then they can't not come up right,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: and you know, when you talk about going home and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: you created the space, I think we kind of don't
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: want it to end. And then we're like, ooh, we've
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: got to like re enter into our life. Then you're
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: kind of like on the high of all these things
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you've learned, ye, and then you're on the comdown. But
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: you want to kind of take that toolkit and then
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: go home and create a space, which is really hard
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to do. You're not going to go home and have
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: nothing to do but take care of yourself for seven days. Again,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it's physically impossible. So the goals were and I'm so
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: proud of you for doing it, to go home, create
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a space that belongs to you, to made me meditate,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and you said, you know that you're doing it wrong.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: And the thing that really pisses me off about the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: confrontation about meditation is there's no real right or way
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to do it. The way I meditated might be different
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: than you know, a Buddhist who's doing it his way.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: For me, it's time that you've dedicated to your and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the phone might ring and somebody might need you, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: dog might mark and that's okay too. It's time, and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you can do a walking meditation I don't sit down
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and just watch my breath and trust me. For years,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: my mind I was like, who has time to meditate?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I have so many things on my list. I'm not
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: that person anymore, right, And so when I discovered that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: my optimal optimal speed is really slowing down, and you
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: heard my lectual lecture about that, that there's so much
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: to do in stillness, and I'm not falling behind. I'm
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: actually doing much better at a greater capacity. I'm more aware,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I'm more productive. It's a long list, but your mind's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: always going to be like, am I doing this right?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Do I have time to do this? I can't stop
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: those thoughts. What am I supposed to be doing?
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So for me, meditation is time with yourself that just
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: serves you and I actually it's very creative for me,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: creative time. When I meditate, I get downloads. My challenge
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  Speaker 1: is to not stop and go write down all these
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  Speaker 1: things that are download I'm supposed to be meditating. So
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  Speaker 1: my meditation for me means that I am quieting down
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  Speaker 1: the noise so that I can check in with myself
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  Speaker 1: and turn the volume up inside so that I can
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  Speaker 1: really listen. And that's just my own imperfect description. So
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you're even doing that is awesome and
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  Speaker 1: it's beautiful and honorable because you never did any of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff. Sound baths are sound healing. It's an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to listen to different frequencies that you've never heard. Yoga
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  Speaker 1: beyond stretching is time for you to meet yourself and
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  Speaker 1: to turn up the volume inside and to listen to
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  Speaker 1: your body language. Breath work is an opportunity to release
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  Speaker 1: and to heal and to let go and to just
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  Speaker 1: see what comes up. So sometimes in meditation you may
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  Speaker 1: even set an intention and just say no agenda, just
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  Speaker 1: maybe something will come up. Or you might be meditating
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  Speaker 1: or praying on I don't know, a new project and
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  Speaker 1: you just want to kind of go sit with it, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in quiet, without a narrative, and just see what comes up.
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  Speaker 1: It's it was amazing to witness you in that space,
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  Speaker 1: to learn things about you like you learned about me
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  Speaker 1: that I never knew. You're such an amazing woman because
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  Speaker 1: you're so strong and yet so feminine. You have this
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  Speaker 1: powerful energy, yet this very soft energy which is really
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  Speaker 1: beautiful masculine and feminine. It's really really unique and it's
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  Speaker 1: powerful and there's a softness about you that maybe hasn't
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity because you have so much to give,
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  Speaker 1: an accomplishment to do. But just watching the layers in
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  Speaker 1: your own time, watching you experience something, watching you find
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  Speaker 1: words for the emotions, it's that's those are the moments
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  Speaker 1: that make me want to do more of this work.
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  Speaker 1: And I will.
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  Speaker 3: I will do a trip like that every single year
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  Speaker 3: that I that my life allows. And I know it's
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  Speaker 3: a financial commitment, it's a time commitment. I think at
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  Speaker 3: some point I walked away and I've had a lot
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  Speaker 3: of women, like I said, which is why I want
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  Speaker 3: to do this, reach out to me and ask me
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  Speaker 3: about it. And my parting words would be everyone, at
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  Speaker 3: some point in their life should do something by themselves
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  Speaker 3: that they are scared that.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know. Because I was completely out of my
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  Speaker 1: comfort zone and I came home a different person, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm honestly like, you get back in life and then
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  Speaker 1: life just rolls on and it has to and so
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  Speaker 1: you just go, go, go, go go. But I'm harready eat.
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  Speaker 2: A little tune up.
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  Speaker 1: You know you talked about that you need to visit
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  Speaker 1: it with new tolls in different times of your life
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  Speaker 1: as a different person and keep learning. I learn every
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  Speaker 1: from every single experience, from every single retreat, from every woman,
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  Speaker 1: and I take it all and I'm not afraid of good, bad, ugly, painful, emotional, joyful,
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  Speaker 1: like I welcome all of it. And I'm really grateful
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  Speaker 1: that we have that experience. I'm grateful that we get
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  Speaker 1: to tell this story, especially to the woman that is
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  Speaker 1: on the fence.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't know if it's for her. It's kind of scared.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big commitment, you know, geographically speaking, economically speaking, time,
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  Speaker 1: so life, animals, kids, partners. It is hard, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: there's no right time to do it. And it takes
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  Speaker 1: great courage for a woman to hold space for herself
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  Speaker 1: and to create a boundary and to hold that promise
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  Speaker 1: and to say I'm worthy of doing this. I deserve
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  Speaker 1: this time. I deserve one week and three hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty five days, and I'll be damped if I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to make that happen.
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  Speaker 3: I do think that it's good that you have options too,
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  Speaker 3: that you have the you have other retreats that are.
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  Speaker 1: Not start as long. We have other retreats. We have
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  Speaker 1: retreats in Arizona, in the fall. We have retreats in
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  Speaker 1: Costa Rica, soon to be in Malibu. We have fundraising opportunities,
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  Speaker 1: gifting opportunities, payment plans. I mean, what seems impossible is
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  Speaker 1: nothing is impossible if you want to do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and not everybody wants to do it bad enough, because
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  Speaker 1: it's really scary. It's easier to not do it, but
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  Speaker 1: and make it a decision that I am going to
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  Speaker 1: go meet myself. Look, you're gonna love it or not? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Well I think it has to be experienced, yes, And I.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely want to thank you for playing this part during
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  Speaker 3: this week in my life, because, as I said, I
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  Speaker 3: had I did not know. The Brook that I knew
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  Speaker 3: was not like the Brook that I met there and
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 1: Another It was Hayley, by the way. So it required trust.
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  Speaker 1: It required a tremendous amount of confidence to get out
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  Speaker 1: of your own way and to do it, especially at
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: a busy time.
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  Speaker 2: I commend you for that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know I took such a chance to you know,
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  Speaker 1: persuade you to doing it because something was calling to
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  Speaker 1: me and I took that call as a woman right,
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  Speaker 1: not knowing with the other side of that.
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  Speaker 2: Would look like. And I know we needed that experience.
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  Speaker 1: This is Saucho, by the way, is he not so smushy?
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  Speaker 1: I want to steal him and put him in my suitcase.
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  Speaker 1: So love you. Well, thank you so much for I
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  Speaker 1: let me share this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you did.
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  Speaker 1: And many more to come, and there'll be a million
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: experiences and more things standing in your way to half these,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: but more reasons to just show up and do it. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really proud of you, I really and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for your honesty and your vulnerability and trust. Thanks for
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: listening everyone.
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