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#120 - Nems · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yo, hey, welcome to the Bootleg CAV Podcast. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what episode this is. We're pretty deep so far, though.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to the homie Nams representing Coney Island. Nams
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  Speaker 1: is on the podcast today. One of my favorite rappers.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to just the lines, he'd be saying,
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  Speaker 1: this dude is fucking hilarious. Um. He's got a new
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  Speaker 1: album out called Congo. His whole thing is fuck your life,
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  Speaker 1: all right. You might have seen him on TikTok he
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  Speaker 1: got crazy bars. Go watch the interview and the freestyle,
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  Speaker 1: or I mean go watch the freestyle. Rather, you're about
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  Speaker 1: to listen to the motherfucking interview, but go watch the
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  Speaker 1: freestyle on my YouTube page. He catches a fucking body.
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  Speaker 1: and let's get into this. NAMS Interview Bootlet Cab Podcast
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  Speaker 1: special guest Coney Island's finest in here. Yo, Yo, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: fuck your life, bing bong, fuck your life man. Shout
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  Speaker 1: out to guys. It's good to see you man. Likewise
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  Speaker 1: in a few years, I know you know, we got
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  Speaker 1: through the pandemic. You've been super active likewise. Uh and
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, you had an interesting rap show last night
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  Speaker 1: with it was Brother Ali, Immortal Technique yourself? Who am
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  Speaker 1: I missing? Supernatural? Was there Supernat? When I was a kid?
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  Speaker 1: The first time I saw Supernat, I freaked out. When
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  Speaker 1: I was he was like grabbing people's IDs out of
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  Speaker 1: the crowd and shit and like free selling their name
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  Speaker 1: and then he would like twirl around and then come
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  Speaker 1: back as like another rapper's voice. Yo. Did he do
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  Speaker 1: that last night? No, not to my life, but Yo,
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  Speaker 1: it's like when I first started battling, he was the
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  Speaker 1: host of these things and he doesn't look any I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a day older than back then. I grew older.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't, Yeah, he used to. And then and then
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was like, you know, Supernat was like
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  Speaker 1: in the backpack circuit. He was like every tour, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: But then they put him on a Lincoln Park Hybrid
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  Speaker 1: Theory tour, did that and he hosted the Lincoln Park ship.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been the reanimation. It was one of
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  Speaker 1: those Lincoln Parks. Oh yeah, And I was like, super
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  Speaker 1: about the crossover. That's crazy, shout out Supernat, Supernat the
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  Speaker 1: legend man. So what's up man? What have you been
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  Speaker 1: up to other than obviously putting out a ship ton
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  Speaker 1: of music, selling a ship ton of merch? Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: shipping on a ship ton of smokers in your neighborhood, right,
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  Speaker 1: don't you ever disrespect? Yeah? We working on a comedy tour.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm bringing Gorilla Weekend to every city. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: Remember where you heard it first? Because I know well
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  Speaker 1: rappers ain't doing comedy. I'm gonna make it. One night
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  Speaker 1: I do a rap show, the next night, I do
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  Speaker 1: a comedy show, the third night, I do a pop up.
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  Speaker 1: Every city's gonna have a Gorilla weekend. Like when I
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  Speaker 1: least Congo in August, I had this thing called Gorilla
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  Speaker 1: Weekend because everything was shut down during the pandemic. So
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  Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm gonna fucking shut down
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  Speaker 1: my block and Coney Island put barricades up and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get no permits nothing. I'm gonna have a flatbed
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  Speaker 1: trunk pull up. I'm gonna make that the stage and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking perform joints with the album since we
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  Speaker 1: can't really get a venue right now. Wow. So I
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  Speaker 1: did that, sold the merch and that was called Gorilla
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  Speaker 1: Day and then uh, now we're gonna throw Gorilla Days
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  Speaker 1: in every city any possible working on it right now,
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  Speaker 1: you find or anything. Nope, I'm the mayor of Coney Island. Man.
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  Speaker 1: Even the cops know the cops by merch from me.
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  Speaker 1: People being yo. Man, I got arrested by this fucking
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  Speaker 1: undercover war in your hat. I was like, town, fuck
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  Speaker 1: your life. Wow, everybody everybody wears this ship. Man. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy like Coney Island outside of yourself, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: really can't think of like an artist that you could
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  Speaker 1: maybe educate me who was like another artist from Cony
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  Speaker 1: Island to Ray Toray, who's now doing radio. Yes, he
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  Speaker 1: was on a duckdown for a while. Up. Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: not really that many. Because that's why I rep it
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  Speaker 1: so hard man. And when I when I used to
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  Speaker 1: deal with Riggs, Morales and Shady Records, I used to
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  Speaker 1: run up over there. He was like, your name is
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  Speaker 1: one of the best things you got going for you.
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  Speaker 1: You're from You're from Brooklyn, but you're from a neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: in Brooklyn that nobody ever blew up out of. Yet
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  Speaker 1: you got And and even before that, I always everybody
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  Speaker 1: knows of Coney Island. They think of the rides. I
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  Speaker 1: just think of the Yeah, of course. But when there's
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  Speaker 1: the rides, that's where Stephan Mulberry is from, right, step On.
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  Speaker 1: I always think of When I think of Coney Island,
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  Speaker 1: I think of Stephan Mulberry's tattoo. Yeah, yeah, there's Stephan Maulberry,
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  Speaker 1: Sebastian Telfair and uh Lance Stevenson. Shout out to Lance Sebastian.
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  Speaker 1: But he paid. He faced some fed chargers with him.
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  Speaker 1: I was with him two nights ago. He's great, he's
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  Speaker 1: doing great. I saw all those names. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know y'all, Yo, I was like fucking shirts Friday.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, back. He was like yo. He's
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  Speaker 1: like yo minus set back for a major comeback. And
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  Speaker 1: my whole life I known him. He's done nothing. But
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  Speaker 1: he played for my sons for like a one season. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he played for probably every team in the NBA. But
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  Speaker 1: you know he's, uh, he's one of my my closest friends.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's he's one of my good friends. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna get through it. Man. Just you know we're talking.
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  Speaker 1: You were saying, how you know, previously in your music
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  Speaker 1: used to say the N word. Yeah, for people who
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  Speaker 1: don't know what is your racial makeup. I'm Puerto Rican
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  Speaker 1: and I'm Irish. My father who was Irish, passed away
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  Speaker 1: when I was full. You know what I'm saying. I've
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  Speaker 1: been around, but I'm I'm in New York. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: how just people talk in general. Like even the white
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  Speaker 1: guy said, the Asian people. You know, when you grow
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  Speaker 1: up around in New York, there's no neighborhoods. That's just
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  Speaker 1: one race. You live next door to, live next door
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  Speaker 1: to to somebody from Pakistan, and your next neighbors from
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  Speaker 1: from the a from from from China, your next door
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  Speaker 1: other neighbor might be Dominican, but al it's like a
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  Speaker 1: melting pot, you know what I'm saying, and and and
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  Speaker 1: and Growing up, it was never even known that it
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  Speaker 1: was a racial thing. That just became part of our vernacular,
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  Speaker 1: how we speak to each other, and just growing up
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  Speaker 1: it was never a problem. So I started doing tours
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  Speaker 1: and going to other cities besides New York, and then
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  Speaker 1: I would see people how they would react to me
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  Speaker 1: saying it, because when you look at me, you might
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  Speaker 1: see different people see different things. People see me staying
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  Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. Some people see me some people think I'm Russian.
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  Speaker 1: Some people think yeah, some people think I'm I'm Arab.
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  Speaker 1: If you told me you were, like, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: I came absolutely so it depends on what you see.
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  Speaker 1: But if you look at me and see I'm white,
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  Speaker 1: then you would have a problem saying it. And and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna go in and tell everybody,
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  Speaker 1: y know, I'm from the hard Nah, it's just if
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  Speaker 1: you don't like it, say son. Nobody never said nothing
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  Speaker 1: to me a person, but as a man, and just
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  Speaker 1: what I don't want to give people a shot of
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  Speaker 1: not liking me before they even hear me. And more
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  Speaker 1: importantly than that, I don't want to make anybody. I'm
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  Speaker 1: at an agent and I'm growing up and being become
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  Speaker 1: more mature with myself that I don't want to say
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  Speaker 1: anything to somebody that's gonna offend them, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to like while I start off like
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  Speaker 1: how when I grew up, I was had to be
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  Speaker 1: tough and all that, But as I grow up, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather laugh at you than joke with you. I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather talk about our similarities than our differences. And and
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  Speaker 1: just the climate that the world is at right now.
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  Speaker 1: I just was like, I'm cutting this off out of
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  Speaker 1: my music and my last album, Congo is your first album.
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  Speaker 1: That's my first album where I didn't use the word
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  Speaker 1: because I'm maturing as a man but also as an artist,
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  Speaker 1: and that just is there's no for me personally. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to say it, I'm I'm. I have a
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  Speaker 1: vocabulary where I don't have to say it. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I could I could kill verses and
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  Speaker 1: kill balls without having that in my music, and like boom,
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  Speaker 1: it's done. Talk to me about bing Bong and like
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  Speaker 1: how the Knicks remix came to be and the bing
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  Speaker 1: Bong stuff is, you're a Knicks fan obviously despite being
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  Speaker 1: from Brooklyn. You you weren't one of these people who
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  Speaker 1: jumped ship to the net of those Now I'm a
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  Speaker 1: lifelonge Knicks fan. But I'm also if if the Nets
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  Speaker 1: go to the playoffs, I'm rooting for them because I'm
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  Speaker 1: Brooklyn all the way, even though they're really the Jersey
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  Speaker 1: next listen to Brooklyn. Now they got Brooklyn in their name.
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  Speaker 1: If they win, I'm in the roof for them, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm a Knicks fan and uh the Knicks being
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  Speaker 1: ship forever for the longest. Yeah, So if I could,
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  Speaker 1: if I created something that's making them get hype and
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  Speaker 1: maybe possibly put the battery in their back to win
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  Speaker 1: some games, I love it. But I just started off
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  Speaker 1: saying it like messing around bing bong, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you say, you know, I just bodied this
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  Speaker 1: verse bong, you know, And then I just bing bong,
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  Speaker 1: just playing around. I would throw it on my stories
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram bing bong, showing my merch and then it
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  Speaker 1: just took off. I started putting it on te's and
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  Speaker 1: hats and started selling and and then I started the
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  Speaker 1: side talk people, the side Talk kids, that's the popular
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  Speaker 1: Instagram page pop and they would have me in their
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  Speaker 1: video they come to Coney Island. I'm saying that bing bong,
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  Speaker 1: bing bong. And then it just took off from there,
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  Speaker 1: and then the Knicks just took off with it. And
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  Speaker 1: it just was was certain player that like, now, what
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  Speaker 1: happened is that they was in front of the Knicks
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  Speaker 1: opening night and the Knicks had won. Everybody in there
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  Speaker 1: somebody said bing bang from seeing me saying it all
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  Speaker 1: the time, and uh, and the Knicks just ran with it.
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  Speaker 1: Took all the Knicks fans just ran with it. And
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  Speaker 1: then now I'm starting I'm doing all types of sports
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  Speaker 1: talk radio, little type of Carton and Robbers. They're showing
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  Speaker 1: me love, They're bringing me up there, and I'm like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: there's a whole new fan base and genre just right
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  Speaker 1: now in the airport. Come here. At least three to
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  Speaker 1: four guys that I know don't even listen to rap
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  Speaker 1: came up to me and Yo, you had a bing
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  Speaker 1: bong guy. And last night at the show, somebody's kids
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  Speaker 1: was he was like, Yo, my son their basketball team
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  Speaker 1: is loves the Big Book cause you send me a
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  Speaker 1: video my my, Yeah, no problem. You know I spent
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  Speaker 1: years doing all I'm bringing negativity into the world, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing. Growing up at the jail time,
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  Speaker 1: was doing robberies, do all types of stuff. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a good chance to switch it up, man, and bring
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  Speaker 1: some positive stuff into the into the atmosphere. Now, do
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  Speaker 1: you feel like Nott the Cama? I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like, uh, just because you've always been
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  Speaker 1: so nice man? But I always feel like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it was the end word thing. I always just
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  Speaker 1: felt like, what is the thing that's not like holding
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  Speaker 1: me back? Yeah? Like do you feel like you're like
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  Speaker 1: things are finally lining up for you? Absolutely? Because also
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  Speaker 1: growing up as an artist, like I really lived this
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  Speaker 1: fuck your life shit Like yo, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to. I'm not a small talk I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: good network. I'm not gonna approach you and tell you
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  Speaker 1: y'all you know how you're doing now. If I don't
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  Speaker 1: know you, I don't want to talk to you. I'm
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: a I'm a clothes I'm a loaner. I like to
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: you know, with my squad here, but I'm a loaner.
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  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I don't mind being alone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't like talking a lot, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: six for four, three hundred pounds. People sometimes get intimidated
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  Speaker 1: by that. They don't want to say nothing. And I
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  Speaker 1: also move everything that I've gained done with the merger,
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  Speaker 1: with the music I did on my own. There's no team,
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  Speaker 1: there's no management, there's no label. I was doing that
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  Speaker 1: all on my own. And you get a perception if
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  Speaker 1: you just listen to my music, you think I'm an ignorant,
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  Speaker 1: dick headish god type of guy. But now when I
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: do so I hate knowing podcast, but I do like
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  Speaker 1: people I fuck with, I fucking show. I do certain
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: ones like Premium Pede my man, what I'm saying, And
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  Speaker 1: once people the story of me, like I tell my
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  Speaker 1: story because I've been at the bottom for a long time,
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  Speaker 1: Like even before like I was doing robbery. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to do robberies. It's just how I was fucked up. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I was sleeping the staircases. I was at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of life. And once I told my story, like if
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  Speaker 1: you really knew what I went through, people would have
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  Speaker 1: no problem with me winning because I was at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom bottom and I think as my people see me
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  Speaker 1: as a person more, they relate to it, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's the same thing DMX. Why
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  Speaker 1: did we loved him because DMX didn't hold no punches.
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  Speaker 1: He kept it real with who he was. And when
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  Speaker 1: you do that, when you're humble, and the humble will
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  Speaker 1: never be humiliated, you know what I'm saying. When you
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: just put all your shit out on front street, this
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  Speaker 1: is me taking a love it the lead. People respect that,
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: but even if they don't like it, they respect it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I throw into my music. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why people my music is getting better and better because people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I throw songs on that emotion. I tell
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  Speaker 1: my story like and and people fuck with it. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the ship that's always tell people you could be
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  Speaker 1: relatable and the music being relatable to people. And if
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: the music and the talent you put those two things together. Absolutely,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: if you're broke, rapper about being broke, man struggling, if
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  Speaker 1: you live with your mom's yo, I live with my
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  Speaker 1: mom trying to get the fuck out of here. If
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: you keep it really like I got a little cousin
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  Speaker 1: that raps and I tell him, like he always talking
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  Speaker 1: about shooting that you grew up with both parents in
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  Speaker 1: a nice house. Like you know what I'm saying. What's
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  Speaker 1: your thing? You like smoking weed and hanging out with girls?
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  Speaker 1: About that? Just be yourself? We had this luckily. See
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  Speaker 1: in the nineties and the earths, you at the front.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the hardest rapper. It's hard to front now because
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  Speaker 1: of social media. Exactly everybody, the whole world is transparent. Everybody, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: Just be yourself. Don't take yourself too seriously. Nobody else does. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if you were in the nineties year,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been over for you would have been
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  Speaker 1: out of here. Oh what forget about it? What I
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: so you talk about doing like like sometime? What? What?
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  Speaker 1: What was the reasons why you? Like? First of all,
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  Speaker 1: what was the longest bis you did? I did a
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  Speaker 1: one and a half to four and a half year
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  Speaker 1: bid for robbery in the third degree. Was that this
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  Speaker 1: was in six And what did you end up? I
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: wounded up only doing like thirteen months because I did
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  Speaker 1: the first first first tund felling program, the shock program
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  Speaker 1: right where it's like a boot camp type of thing
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  Speaker 1: because when I was doing the whole fight club ship battling,
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  Speaker 1: I was on the run. I caught the case that
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  Speaker 1: I got locked up for. Eventually I caught. I was
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  Speaker 1: I did it three wow. I did a robbery. I
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  Speaker 1: got caught and I got bailed out and just was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not turning myself back and fuck that. And I
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  Speaker 1: started doing the fight club. I kept winning. I'm all
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  Speaker 1: over MTV. Shit's popping, and then I get caught. The
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  Speaker 1: judge was like, yo, boom morning and alfter fall it.
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  Speaker 1: But she said, since you stayed out of trouble for
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  Speaker 1: four years, I'm gonna drop this to non violent. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So if it was a violent rewarded, if it would
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  Speaker 1: have stayed a violent felony, then I wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 1: able to get that first time felling program. But because
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  Speaker 1: she dropped it to non violent, the one and that
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  Speaker 1: if you have nine years under, they give you the chance. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you're first time feling, you do this this shock boot
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  Speaker 1: camp type shit. It's still jailed, but it's like a
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  Speaker 1: boot camp. You make up five am, you gotta run workout,
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  Speaker 1: da da da. And I was like I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to do it, but I was like, yo, my career
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  Speaker 1: has just started to take over now with the balance
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  Speaker 1: all over MTV every single night. I was like, let
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: me give it a chance. If it works out, it
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  Speaker 1: works out. If not, so I wounded up doing altogether
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  Speaker 1: fourteen months. Came home on parole, stayed you know, grab
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  Speaker 1: the Wizard Nada. I had the Wizardenator at the time
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  Speaker 1: with the fake piss and uh it works, Huh absolutely
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: it was. It was fake pissed or like a fake
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: dick that it's a fake dick. See when I came home,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: my guy just had got off a fed parole and
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: he was like, yo, hen I don't need this no more.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Take gave me the fake wid it. But the thing
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: was he was a couple of shades darkening me. Oh,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: so you gotta you you you get the dick, you
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: buy the one that Yes, if the Wizardnata is a
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: is a plastic it's like a dildo, but it comes
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: with the power. You gotta strap it around you and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: on the pouch like that goes along your waist is
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: you put clean urine into it. And when you go
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: to parole, it's like you're pulling out your dick because
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: they look at you. They stand behind you, and the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: mirrors on the opposite side, so they look it into
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: the mirror. But on the bottom of the fake dick
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: is a button and the clean piss comes out of
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: it and it stays against your body so it keeps
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the same body temperature warm. So my man, they gave
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: it to me like a little bit darker than me.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: So the ship was a little bit darker. I don't
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I got away with it. But
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: one time they didn't take my piss for like three months.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Me stupid. I kept the same pissing there. I didn't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: change it, and like whatever. So I went to parole.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: He asked for the urine. I pressed the button. Sh
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: came out like apple sauce. I was like, oh, ship,
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: he said, yo. He tested it, put a little strip
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: in it. He said, yo, it's clean. But I need
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you to go straight to the hospital when you get
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the fuck out of there, because something's not right. I
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: was like, sorry, sir, I just don't drink a lot
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: of water. I'm going straight to the hospital whatever the case.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And he let me go,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: and I was like, thank God, empty that ship out.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Put some guy some clean pits put it in there.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: But yo, that she was crazy. Even me, I was like,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is it? Yeah? So you you came
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: out lumpiest thing. It was hard like you like, sir,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: yeah you got cancer, you got something going on with
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: your yo to the hospital. You're clean, but this guy
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: had frozen. It came out lumpy. Yeah, that was horrible.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's funny you look back on times like that. It
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: was funny. It wasn't it was, but I don't even remember.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I was taking pics from anybody. Would you pay people
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: for their pistiness? Yeah? Hell yeah, hell y'all, I got
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: y'all take a piss in this fucking bottle for me.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. And it comes with like a syringer to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: take it out the fucking cup or whatever, and then
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you put it into the fucking wizard there. That ship
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: was a fucking hassle. You know, it would be easy
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: if I just didn't do anything. Well, now you're not.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: You don't do anything, So now you're telling me with
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: this fucking ape ship man, that's tobacco. Now that tobacco.
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• 18:36
  Speaker 1: at everything I did man, Like cigarettes have been the
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: fucking hortest. But this vape shit you are smoking on
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the plane, you know, chill out smoking on the fucking
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: put in my hoodie, yo, like a real fuck? What
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: was like? Was we something that you we? Was just
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like everything I was doing. I didn't smoke crack and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't shoot needles. Everything well, and meth is not
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: really on the East Coast, but everything else you were participating. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was sniffing dope like like like sniffing coke, taking
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Xanax before it was poppedd you sniff Heroin? Yeah, ye yeah,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: oh shout for for a while. Yeah, that's that brought
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: me to the bottle man. I was like, I never
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: shot no needles though, like and I never so that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: was my thing in my head, like I'm not shooting needles.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm good, you know what I'm saying. Oh, Heroin's like this,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: that's some serious shit to get off those crazy bro.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: How long were you doing Heroin? Probably like eight years?
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And I did the whole of the fight club shit.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: All of that shit was was fucked up. I would go, yo, listen,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I would go. I remember I went on a specific
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: trip to Detroit to battle with Proof and all of that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I don't remember anything that happened on the trip. I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: don't If it wasn't recorded, I wouldn't even know I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: went there. Wow. When I first met Alchemist, I was like, yo, aw,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: nice to meet you. He was like, I've been fucking
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with you since we met in Detroit. I was like, damn,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Wow, I don't remember meeting one
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of my favorite producers, rass Cast, same thing. He was
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: out there Detroit judging the battle and he was like,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: yo oh I mentioned in Deru. I was like, I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: don't even remember. I wasn't even known I was out there.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, eight years is a long time. Yeah, Because
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just that, It was that coke and the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: xanax just make you forget everything. Like so, by the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: end of the run, I was on everything. I was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: on probably about two bundles of dopeer day, five twenties
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of coke, and about five xanax every single day. It
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't like I was working, you know what I'm saying.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I would wake up every day like, y'all, I gotta
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: go out and get this money, however it means necessary robbing,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you feel like you were
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: working to keep your drug drug. Absolutely, I had a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: fucking three four hundred dollars a day habit with no job,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: nothing that. So people always say, if you have an addiction,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sure like you probably apply to a sex addiction too. Like,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: if you have any sort of addiction, right, you got
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to work on yourself constantly, work ethic to get high
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: every day. It's exasing, right, It's like yeah, like imagine
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: if like most people who had that work ethic to
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: get high every day and still be semi like exactly,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: they applied it to literally anything else. That's what I'm
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: doing now. You never did you ever smoke crack? No? Never, no, never.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I just I've always I want to know what crack
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: feels like. Nah, watched I watched, I watched it. I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: watched that ship Franklin Safe when girl yeah yeah, yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: she was hitting the crack pipe in the show, I said, shit,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: look like it's fire. But yeah. Now I'm at the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: point where I've been clean over twelve years. It's longer
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: than when I was fucked up with you know what
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, What was like for you? The breaking point
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: where you were like I gotta get the ship, take
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: care of the ship. Man. I had, like the fight
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: club stuff was going on. I had a development deal
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: with Shady Records. There was like your names, you love
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: your music, like, but you're going in and out of
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: jail because I would do besides the main ship. I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: would do like little skid bids, like I would go
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: to Rikers for two weeks, Rikers for a month. Come out.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: You know you're going in and out of jail. We
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: take you to places. Sometimes you don't show up. When
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you do show up, you fucking you run outside, you
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: rob people outside the studio. You're doing like I was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: just like living crazy. Yeah, yeah, this is you never
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: had any instance we thought you overdosed or gotten close
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to like this is back then. It wasn't like the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: fetanyel shit now, like you know what I'm saying it was.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: It was different and I never when I dealt with people,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I dealt with people I knew that I grew up
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: with from Coney Island, you know what I'm saying. Like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't like luckily I didn't have to go
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: through none of that. Was that getting off of the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: shit hard, going through with draws and it was but
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the last year or two of my of my my addiction,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I didn't want to do it. It
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: It was just more like a job. It was like, yo,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: if I'm ever able to stop doing this for a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: couple of days when I'm not sick anymore, like I'm
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: never gonna do this again. I'm so tired of living
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: this lifestyle. But I also had given up on my
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: dreams with the rap shit like I I didn't want
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't care about nothing but getting high, like and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: then it just had like a moment of clarity. One
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: day I was on like a three week run, like
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I hadn't slept, I hadn't shower, with none of that,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and I was like I had like a I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: know if it was like coasist or like out of
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: body experience where I was like I could keep going
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: how I'm going right now, and I'm gonna be dead
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: or going to be in jail the rest of my
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: life from doing something stupid. I could just stop right
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: now and live my dreams like like I had ready
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: giving up on my dreams. And that night I went
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to my mother's house. She was living in Staten Island.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I was in Coney Island. At the time, I was like, yo, Ma,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: please let me just stay at your house. She was like, nah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you can't. She been not letting me. She was, but something.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: She let me stay, and uh, I just kept the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: wheels going. I stopped one day too. I had to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: go through it. And when I got through it, though,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I never touched nothing again nothing now, not a drink,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: not we eat, nothing. So you've been totally sober. Ye
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: nothing nothing. Wow, that's that's real, big man. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And and the evidence is there since I stopped that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: My whole fucking life is you know, like I bought
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: my mom's a house, got me a house. God fucking
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: right now they're putting us in ground saltwater pool in
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: my backyards right now. They're doing it as we speak.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And and you're still no, no, no. I bought a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: house in stat which is like twenty minutes. It's close
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: enough that when I want to hang out and be be,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you know, be a hood bugger, do hood stuff with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: my hood friends. You know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: we we we cauld move over there. And and when
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I want to be left alone, go to the crib,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: go to the crib. That's it. I didn't know you
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: had a developmental deal with Shady. Yeah. Yeah, I was
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: dealing with Riggs, Riggs and morales Man. So that my
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: guy was that who kind of found you. Yeah, he
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because he was he was he started the fight club.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody really knows that he started the fight club, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: so he was heavily involved with it, so he would
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: see he had like a front row seat too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: how you got down. Absolutely. I still talk with Riggs
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to this day. Man, he's always He's always shown love
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and been in my corner even like you know, without
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: did you ever have any any any experience like meet
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and him or am I didn't meet the rest of
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: D twelve, fucked with Heavy, go to Detroit and the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: regular Bazaar would take fly me out, Fucking Proof would
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: fly me out. Rest in peace. He's all of them, McVeigh, Swifty,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: they all I still talk with Swifty, uh and Canive.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I fuck with them Heavy, like,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but I never met him. They always like em like
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he's secluded, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: He's like one of the only rappers that like made
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it and just didn't leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: also feels like untouchable in the sense because you would think,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: like if you're that big out of Detroit, you wouldn't
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: get the fuck out of the true fact he's staying
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: in fact, and like, no, I do know in Detroit
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: for me the limited times I'm out there, I don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: know the politics or street probably, but I do know
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: like a lot of people know each other. Mostly people
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: know each other. And Trick, Trick is really that guy
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: out there. Sure, I'm saying crazy scene and Trick is close,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he's like something good
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: money you Fat Joe just showed you some love. They
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: asked him. We cracked. Who are what they asking? That's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: pretty much who was like today's fat Joe. But they
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: asked him a whole array of who's the new whow this? That? That? That?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And they asked me, is there new? Yeah, there's a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: new faedual. His name is names out of Corney Allen
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's crazy. So you you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and Joe got a relationship, Yeah, Joe, Uh, I mean
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: we're not super close. I've I've hung out with him
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: on different occasions, like we've gone to shows and through
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: my man Ufo feed. My man Ufo feed really made
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the introduction and and me and Fever was doing a
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: lot do a lot of music. And when he made
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the introduction with with with Joe Crack, I called him
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: crack you know what I'm saying. But when he made
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the introduction with crack cracks and showed me love automatically,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and then from me being around him more and you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: see how movie follows me, you know, and he's we
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: speak through the d m s and and even his
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: team like Uncle Dan and a couple of days they
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: fuck with me. They showed me mad love. So I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: guess from just from him observing and watching and he
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's. He had told me that before
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: he said it on the TV, like you'd be like
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: your names you Mimy and me when I was younger man,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a couple of times he told me that. But for
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: him to say it on Rap City's first episode, yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know he was doing that, and my
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: phone just started blowing up, like y'all fat Joe just
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: said that. Look, I said, Yo, that's I think one
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: of the only times in my throughout this Rap shit
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that I actually like almost I didn't cry, but I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: almost shed a tear out of just pure I grew
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: up listening to Fat Joe Big Pun is my favorite art,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: especially being a Puerto Rican from New York. Like they
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: held it down, like especially in my era when I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: was they was them guys. So when he said that,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it was more like validation, like from all this hard
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: work because me, I'm my own worst critic, I still
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: grind every day like I'm like nothing, Like I'm still
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: like nobody knows me, you know what I'm saying. I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: look at it like, bro, I have not reached where
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I want to be in this music stuff, so I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: still act like nobody knows me. And I got to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: make an impression every single time, and I got to
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: put into work every single day to live my dreams
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to the extent that I want to live it. So
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: when he said that, it was like validation, Like, Yo,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: somebody's out there watching, especially somebody who especially one hundred
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: percent like and you know, I got a little watery ey.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I ain't shed a tear, you know what I'm saying
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: over here, But like it was it was like it
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was one of the best moments of my career. Man,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: what's next for you? Are you gonna keep just kind
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of keep keep your foot on the gas with music. Well,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: next is me and Scram Jones dropping the album. That
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: ship is ridiculous. It's just stupid, hard, just hard. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: think he's one of the slept on producers. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I knew Scram since he was there from the beginning.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Like when I first started, I don't know, he was lapping.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Scram is nasty. A lot of people don't know. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: one of the things that's holding up the album is
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like Scream, we gotta get a joint, me and you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not right and like Scam, let's go bro with
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the verse on the ship. Let's go. But he's nice
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and a lot of mcs that I know for sure,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: but his beats and that's the next project after that,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: probably me a static selected nice shot static, and then
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we're just taking it from them. There it is, man, listen,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: congoes out out right now. Fuck your life, Fuck your life?
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Is there anybody any Let me ask you this because
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: since the pandemic started, I feel like I always say this,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: like I feel like it helped with the bars in
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: terms of fans, wanting that or wanting more substance, or
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: wanting more from music, because motherfuckers weren't in the club
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: standing on couches popping bottles. So you saw Benny and
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Westside Gunn and Freddie Gibbs, all these people have the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: best years of their career. Royster five nine was nominated
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for a Grammy. You know what I'm saying, Like, do
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you feel like that the pandemic helped kind of like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: correct the path that hip hop was on because it
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: feels like absolutely, man, absolutely, that's listen. Everything has its
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: cycle facts, you know. So it was already gearing back
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: towards the lyric in music and the stuff that I'm
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: show me and you grew up listening to. But the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: pandemic pushed it forward like a little like made it
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: rapidly and speed up the process. Yeah, and it's great,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: great time. I never stopped doing this, even when people
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: were snapping their fingers bouncing. I was always doing the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: hype of music, man, And the people know that, and
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and and and and they respect when the transparency and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: when you fucking continuously do something no matter what, if
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you show consistency and just keep at it, something's gonna
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: happen out of it in the positive manner. Where can
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: people buy merch? Find your ship? Because you got so
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: much every day anybody, I f y L dot n
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: y c. Because if you got a dot calm, you pussy.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, n y C. Yeah, go
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: buy a hat, Go buy a buy some merch. Stop
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: being a cheap fuck your whole life so your girl
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: hate you. Go buy a Godzilla his pussy shirt facts
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: relaship Boom Bom